View Full Version : Tribeca

August 2nd, 2006, 09:51 AM
Historic District Map (http://www.nyc.gov/html/lpc/downloads/pdf/maps/tribeca.pdf)

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1 York St (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5088&highlight=norten) being gutted.
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2 White St, 1809. One of the oldest buildings in lower Manhattan. Formerly the Liquor Store Bar. An argument developed between landlord and tenant, but the place was quickly leased. The new tenant applied for an outdoor seating permit, but there was flack from some residents. Nothing since.
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August 2nd, 2006, 10:02 AM
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Churrascaria Plataforma - Brazilian steakhouse.
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Next door was El Teddy's. Now a residential development.

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48 Laight, with the obligatory bank at the ground floor.

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Benheim Building
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55 White St, 1861 cast iron.
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August 2nd, 2006, 10:27 AM
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Varick and West Broadway merge. The left side of the Leggett Building (center) was sliced off when Varick was widened.

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The street being cut through here and on 6th Ave-Church have destroyed much of the streetwall, leaving pie-shaped lots that are difficult to develop.

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Update: Scaffolding going up.

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Square Diner. There were many places like this when the neighborhood was all work. You knew the waitresses by name; they asked if you wanted the usual and how was the family. The tab was low and the tip was generous.
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Louis Provenzano car dealership and repair shop. I used to see a few exotics on the sidewalk, but not too much selling or repairing, so I'm not sure what went on here.

Now Buster's Garage (sports bar), but was known it would be temporary. Soon to be developed as 180 West Broadway
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August 2nd, 2006, 10:46 AM
Powell Building - Nobu
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116 Hudson St. They got this one right.
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Megu, on Thomas St
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The narrow Thomas St ran through the grounds of the New York Hospital, a 6 acre plot between Broadway and Church, from Worth to Duane. It was part of the Lispenard Meadows farm tract. The Lispenard name figures prominently in the development of the area. Besides Lispenard St, others are named for sons - Thomas, Leonard, and Anthony (now Worth St).

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August 2nd, 2006, 10:52 AM
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Bouley Bakery
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Nice renovation. Silly addition.
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Next to an MTA substation
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August 2nd, 2006, 11:25 AM
A local architect took a lot of heat for creating this monstrosity on West Broadway and Warren St. There was no hardship in developing the property that required the addition. It was dirty, but intact. There was always a retail presence on the ground floor, starting with an electronics store, the northern reaches of Radio Row.
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The same thing was done up the block at Church. The project was welcomed because it was to restore the streetwall to Church by incorporating several buildings that were falling apart. The result is horrible, and the Church St side doesn't look like the front.
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This led to the historic district being extended to the south, protecting midblock buildings such as this.
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The Cary Building at Chambers and Church - never meant to be a corner building. Buildings were sliced off when the subway was built. At the right of the photo, a hotel is going up on one of the narrow lots.
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Street sign on the NW corner of Warren and West Broadway.
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In the 1750s, West Broadway was called Chapel St.

In 1754, King's College was founded by royal charter of King George II, and classes were held on Trinity Church grounds. In 1760, the school moved into its own building on land donated by Trinity Church at present day Park Pl.

Classes were suspended during the Revolution, when British troops occupied the building. In 1784 when classes resumed with a new charter, it was thought that the name King's was inappopriate, and it was changed to Columbia College.

In 1830, the stretch of West Broadway beween Warren and Barclay St was renamed College Pl. In 1857, Columbia sold the campus and moved to Madison and E49th St. The main hall of the Park Pl campus was demolished in 1860.

It doesn't look like one, but it's a Gerken.
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August 2nd, 2006, 11:41 AM
Cosmopolitan Hotel

It was always a hotel, going back to the 1850s. The Hudson River Railroad was nearby. Formerly called the Hotel Bond, it was a flophouse in the decades before its renovation. Abraham Lincoln was never a guest.
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Farmers Market at Washington Market Park
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Duane Park
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The last food purveyors were here, the wide intersection of Duane-Reade providing space for large trucks to unload.
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Staple St, leading to the Mercantile Exchange.
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The Butter & Cheese Exchange
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August 2nd, 2006, 11:56 AM
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Architect builds his own home.
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Mohawk Electric Company Building. Bouly's Danube restaurant in the right foreground.
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Greenwich St narrowed by three lanes.
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Harrison Houses.

1820s Federal row houses, originally along Washington St. They were moved around the corner to Harrison St when the Independence Plaza-BMCC superblock was built. The city restored them in the 70s and put them up for sale for about $40,000. The restoration is not great by present standards, but at least they were saved, and a reminder of what was lost. A small section of Washington St remains.

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August 2nd, 2006, 12:01 PM
Leonard St
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7 doesn't look so good from this side.
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August 2nd, 2006, 12:11 PM
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August 2nd, 2006, 12:20 PM
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Many of the old warehouses did not survive, replaced by post-war small factories that are now either abandoned or parking garages. There is very little retail.

River lofts taken earlier this year
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August 2nd, 2006, 12:29 PM
88 Laight St
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August 2nd, 2006, 12:34 PM
Some construction has begun:

The garage on Greenwich and Hubert St has been demolished.
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The two parking lots near River Lofts
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500 Canal St

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That's all folks!
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August 2nd, 2006, 03:43 PM
:):):)Thank you ZippyTheChimp for the walk in the district for Tribeca. Great

August 2nd, 2006, 07:18 PM
Great tour-of-the-town,,,I am going back to take the entire tour one more time!:eek: :eek:


August 3rd, 2006, 07:44 AM
Terrific, Zippy. Looking forward to my Tribeca visit Labor Day.

August 3rd, 2006, 08:08 AM
White St, 1809. One of the oldest buildings in lower Manhattan. Formerly the Liquor Store Bar. An argument developed between landlord and tenant, but the place was quickly leased. The new tenant applied for an outdoor seating permit, but there was flack from some residents. Nothing since.
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Yo! Ablarc, there's a really good Mexican(ish) restaurant very close to this (can't recall the name this instant) very worth a visit and across from it there is a champagne bar that is also definitely worth a visit. they even do a 'taster' menu. :)

Half a block yonder: a great tea/coffe shop.

To me, this corner of Tribeca is what 'downtown' is all about.

August 3rd, 2006, 09:27 AM
across from it there is a champagne bar that is also definitely worth a visit. they even do a 'taster' menu. :)

To me, this corner of Tribeca is what 'downtown' is all about. http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4173/tribeca9924lw0.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tribeca9924lw0.jpg)

Nice to get validation from across the Pond on a long-standing debate I've had with a friend over the heart of the neighborhood. Conventional wisdom places it at the historic Duane Park triangle, but I've always felt it was the Tribeca Park triangle. There was energy here before the neighborhood had a name.

At the site of the improperly-named Soho Pharmacy was a bar-restaurant called Magoos (best French Onion soup in Lower Manhattan). The clientele was an eclectic mix of artists, telecom workers, two-fisted produce workers, and to keep everything somewhat orderly, off-duty cops from the 01 Precinct.

Searching for the heart of Downtown

By Nicole Davis

“Life before cell phones, answering machines, iPods, or DVDs. No video rentals or Walkmans. No MTV. In other words, less interference.” So begins multi-talent Ann Magnuson’s essay in “The Downtown Book,” the literary companion to the current “Downtown Show” at NYU’s Grey Art Gallery that chronicles downtown New York’s booming art scene between 1974 and 1984. At the opening last month, there was no question those static-free times were long gone when a baseball-capped kid walked through the packed gallery, scanning the art on the walls and talking into his BlackBerry phone simultaneously.

“It’s a zoo and it’s dumb,” he reported back to some anonymous caller. For someone who probably wasn’t alive during the decade the exhibit covers, the art must have seemed outdated. Along with photos, paintings, videos, and remnants of that era, like Basquiat’s jacket, the show also features ephemera like ID cards for the now-defunct Mudd Club and handmade flyers – evidence of a period defined not so much by what could be sold in galleries, but rather what could happen when you put a few hundred people in 20 by 20 block radius of one another like some fantastic Petri dish experiment in creativity. The book is almost better representative of the period, if only because the artists who were a part of it had space to explain what it was like then.

“It was the beginning of post-modernism,” says Martha Wilson, who started the bookstore and performance space Franklin Furnace out of her Tribeca loft in 1976. “Except we didn’t have the term for it then. [It was more like] ‘Why does high art and low art have to be separate? Why can’t we play together?”

Clearly, the legacy of those Downtown artists was to make sure, as Wilson says, “that anything goes,” blurring the boundaries between mediums, even creating mediums, like performance art, that hadn’t existed before. But what has changed about the Downtown art scene since that period—if can you even locate it Downtown, when so many artists have moved to the outer boroughs, or even outside of New York?

“Downtown isn’t so much connected with a specific location anymore,” says Dean Daderko, a thirtysomething independent curator who is part of a panel called “No Alternative” scheduled to talk about the impact of the Downtown art scene at the Grey Gallery March 2. “Downtown now includes everywhere from Williamsburg to the Bronx; there’s not one epicenter.” At least not any more. One thing the “Downtown Book” points out is that between 1974 and 1984, there were more art school graduates in the country than any other period in American history. New York was still the heart of the art world, and Downtown was still dirt cheap: a 2,000 square foot loft in Soho cost $200 a month in 1974. The low rent attracted artists to the still-industrial section of the city like settlers to the Wild West. In a place with few resources they created their own, like a pay-what-you-wish restaurant called Food founded by Gordon Matta-Clark and Tina Girouard and other artists, or a bar called Magoo’s that allowed you to pay for food and drinks with art.

“It was abandoned, it was empty, there was nothing going on,” says Wilson, who now operates Franklin Furnace from downtown Brooklyn as an online archive and broker, pairing artists with money and venues. “There wasn’t even a place to do laundry; I would have to take it on the subway to West 4th Street.

“There were [also] fewer places to gather, so you pretty much saw everyone you knew at Franklin Furnace, or the Mudd Club or the Clocktower” — alternative spaces and watering holes that demarcated this physically smaller universe, and cultivated an instant audience for every impromptu performance and event. “The same 300 people were all looking at each other’s work and reacting to it and playing off of it.”

That tiny community, which sprang up in Soho in the 70s and spread to the East Village in the 80s, ultimately dispersed as the AIDS crisis hit, art became more commercialized, and rents reached staggering heights.

“What’s different between then and now? The rent for sure. It’s like a purging of creativity,” says Clayton Patterson, who has run a storefront gallery on Essex Street since 1985. “To come here and pay $3000 a month in rent means you’re running around, working 60 hours a week just to pay the bills.

“And because it’s so expensive, what you get is the grind” — and not just in the working life. Even the nightlife has changed.

“If you go to Mo’s to see a show, you might go from 9:30 to 10:45 [before another act comes on]. In the past at a club, you used to be able to hang out all night.”

The significance of all that hanging out, he says, was the bonds it developed. “A scene gets created. A scene makes a movement, and thus something happens.”

“Lifestyle was as much a creative practice [then] as putting time in the studio,” says pop culture critic and curator Carlo McCormick, the guest curator of the Downtown Show. Opening a café, playing in a band, scouring dumpsters for a flamboyant outfit to wear at Danceteria, all these creative acts weren’t “tangibly fine art practices, but they could bring together in one room a bunch of cool, creative people, and a certain amount of hybridity would come of that.” So writers hanging out with musicians started bands, or artists starred in movies or did performance art. “Now, when you go to see performance art, it’s sort of ghettoized again,” says McCormick, which could be a function of time as much as economics. With such low rent, people simply didn’t have to work as long or as hard to maintain their lifestyle, leaving them an open schedule to experiment.

The low rent = more creativity equation seems to work when you apply it to cheap places to live right now like Portland, Oregon, where it’s possible to support yourself on a few bartending shifts a week. “We have a really good life—there’s no way I could pull it off anywhere else,” says Tamar Monhait, a printmaker, photographer and musician who lives in a 2,000-square-foot loft she rents with her boyfriend for $850 a month. “A lot of people I know have left and moved to places like New York, but they come back because of the affordability and because they have the time and space to do what they want.” The trade off is that there’s less diversity, say Monhait. “I also don’t feel like there’s a cohesive scene,” she says.

That desire for a physical community a la 70s and 80s Downtown New York could just be symptomatic of the rampant globalization and virtual connectivity that define the 21st century. “There’s a huge difference in technology,” says Alanna Heiss, founder and director of PS1 Contemporary Art Center. “We now have the ability to produce using digital technology. In the 1970s, artists would meet at a bar to discuss ideas and then go to a print shop to create the work. Now you can just sit at your desk and send a message out to thousands of people. The physical socialized structure is not as evident today,” she says.

Art fairs like Art Basel Miami Beach and biennials elsewhere have also made the art community more global in nature. Unlike the 70s and early 80s, when “you had to be in New York to have a career during that period, it’s no longer necessary to live here,” says Suzanne Anker, chair of the Bachelor of Fine Arts program at the School of Visual Arts. “It’s not uncommon now to see a group show with names from all over the world.”

Or even from all over New York. In fact, if there’s any barometer for how spread out the New York art world has become, it’s PS1’s “Greater New York Show,” which culls emerging artists from all five boroughs and even towns in (gasp) New Jersey. But can too much diffusion be a bad thing?

“I think the art and music scene in New York at this time is struggling primarily because it seems spread extremely thin between many different subcultures and miniature communities,” says JD Samson, a visual artist, choreographer, and member of the punk band Le Tigre who will also be part of the Grey Gallery panel in March.

New York artists today also contend with a highly competitive, commercial art scene. “The scene here is so market driven,” says Daderko, who explains that New York’s myriad galleries haven’t so much fostered a community as stunted it. “You walk in, look at the art, and walk out. It’s not so much a social scene, even though what is going on is very social,” he says. “New York sadly lacks a dialogue about work [right now]”— which is party why Daderko goes out of his way to create one. For five years, he ran a gallery in the living room of his loft in Williamsburg, a space that actually encouraged conversation about the work on view — until the rent increased and he had to move out. Still, he finds ways to curate shows that fall outside of gallery walls, like a series of free performances that ran last fall at the Chelsea Hotel, or the Talent Show he recently put together at the Tribeca bar M1-5 with friend K8 [Kate] Hardy. “We basically put out a flyer”—a crappily made flyer, he points out — “with these provocations, like, will ‘Hanna Liden come as JT Leroy?’” (Liden, a Swedish-born photographer, did.) In all, about 300 people turned out for the inaugural, monthly event Daderko says he created because there hadn’t been a performance party in New York for some time. “A good dance party with performance art — it’s been a while since the city’s done something like that.”

It’s events like these — non-commercial, ephemeral, “hybrid”inal — that suggest that artists coming of age today aren’t so concerned with making art just so they can sell it in a gallery. As Jen DeNike, a video artist featured in PS1’s Greater New York 2005 puts it, “A lot of people are more interested in creating a dialogue amongst ourselves in our art practice that involves more than just engaging in the gallery system, through curating events, programs, and collaborating on projects where we often find or create our own venues.” The types of time-based, collaborative projects she describes—creating a Mandala out of breakfast cereal, taking over a hotel where artists show work in the rooms they’re staying in—are reminiscent of the art represented in the Downtown Show in that they sometimes take place in alternative spaces and aren’t necessarily about commerce. But the glaring difference today is that a number of these artist-curated events occur thousand of miles from Downtown Manhattan, from Art Basel Miami Beach to Slow Burn, a group show in Geneva.

“It is almost as though...the art has prevailed rather than the specific bar or club or art space,” says Samson of the nomadic art scene today. “We move together, and we will go anywhere. And that is what is so incredible about now.”

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August 3rd, 2006, 01:54 PM
Church st. betwen Walker St and White St?

Happened on it completely serendipitously, walking down White St from Broadway looking at the cast iron beauties.

I suppose 'lofts' there are completely stratospheric price-wise now? How much per sq. ft, say?

August 3rd, 2006, 04:33 PM
Amazing pictures and information! :eek:
I'll definitely take a visit to Tribeca on my trip to NYC in late November.
Thanks Zippy.


August 18th, 2006, 06:46 PM
116 Hudson St. They got this one right.
They certainly did.

Thanks for the show, Zippy.

In my mind Tribeca is like Baltimore or Los Angeles. Persons I respect sing its praises, so I keep going back hoping I'll like the place. I find a place that's changed, maybe even improved, but I still don't like it.

I'll have another run at it in a little while. My next visit in a few weeks will find me staying at the Cosmopolitan, Chambers and West Broadway. Maybe hanging around for a week or so will warm me to it.

Don't get me wrong, I can see its virtues. It just hasn't been my cup of tea.

Maybe it would help if the fat, clunky look of those former factories were less resolutely reinforced by new construction. I know it flies in the face of prevailing wisdom, but I think a few slender sliver buildings would help here. Vertical punctuation, a little grace, a bit of contrast, the ol' horizontal versus vertical.

It also seems somewhat barren. Even more trees would help.

Maybe this next visit I'll get to like it.

August 20th, 2006, 07:33 PM

Architecturally, this is such a handsome corner!!

At the same time it seems desolate and forbidding.

The modern building is textbook contextualism. Not slavishly imitative, willing to use a modernist vocabulary, and well-proportioned and detailed. Tasteful as all get-out.

But it has a *@#%* bank on the ground floor!

And the older buildings around it aren’t really better in how they greet the passerby. Unfriendly storefronts at best.

You have to be an architecture freak to enjoy an environment like this. And there aren’t enough of us to populate a street. (I know, I know…it was Sunday morning.)

Too much sunshine, not enough trees, perpetually under construction.

I’d also lose the freshly-repainted pipe-fitting sign, unless Grabler is still on premises. If not, it’s self-conscious and hokey, and should be allowed to fade.

August 20th, 2006, 07:37 PM
Yo! Ablarc, there's a really good Mexican(ish) restaurant very close to this (can't recall the name this instant) very worth a visit and across from it there is a champagne bar that is also definitely worth a visit. they even do a 'taster' menu. :)

Half a block yonder: a great tea/coffe shop.
Seems you got around in Tribeca. I'd be grateful for further and specific recommendations; I'm going to have a little time to kill.

August 20th, 2006, 10:24 PM
Agree with your points about this ^^ corner -- especially the newly-arrived fugly bank.

But you should be aware that at the right side of that photo are the exit lanes from the Holland Tunnel and the entire block front to the right (out of the picture) used to have big London Planes that were torn out while work on the "3rd Water Tunnel" proceeds (an access point has been drilled down from there and consequently the surrounding area has been completely ripped up). It will be re-planted once the water tunnel work is complete.

Over the past few years there has been much discussion regarding the planting of trees in both Tribeca and SoHo -- where the argument has been made that trees are not historically correct in these former warehouse districts. That argument seems to be losing steam and more trees -- happily -- are working their way into the sidewalks of SoHo and Tribeca.

At the same time trees are being chopped down because they block illegal advertising on scaffolding!! An owner of a building in Chelsea just received a $10,000 fine such a dastardly deed: http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/mack_for_tree_lance_regionalnews_stephanie_gaskell .htm

August 20th, 2006, 11:03 PM
^ "Trimmed," sez the man who didn't know anything was being done.

So were they trimmed or cut down?

August 20th, 2006, 11:31 PM
I’d also lose the freshly-repainted pipe-fitting sign, unless Grabler is still on premises. If not, it’s self-conscious and hokey, and should be allowed to fade.

It's now the Grabler Building Condominiums (38 Laight Street). Does that count?

August 20th, 2006, 11:48 PM
So were they trimmed or cut down?

The word "trunkectomy" is being bandied about ...

According to the NY TIMES (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/20/nyregion/thecity/20tree.html):
... on July 16, less than a week after the billboard went up, the tops of all four trees were mysteriously lopped off.

Some neighbors were appalled. Fred Bracken, a 48-year-old marketing analyst who lives one block away, complained that “pruning was bypassed for a simpler ‘trunkectomy.’ ” Mr. Bracken said: “I hate to see them chop down those four trees. Obviously, the only reason they’re doing it is because they block those ads.”

August 21st, 2006, 06:48 AM
It's now the Grabler Building Condominiums (38 Laight Street). Does that count?
Do they fit pipes?

August 21st, 2006, 06:54 AM
Obviously, the only reason they’re doing it is because they block those ads.”
I think you could make the case that advertising at New York construction sites has gotten out of hand. Might be time to ban it altogether.

August 21st, 2006, 07:13 AM
Seems you got around in Tribeca. I'd be grateful for further and specific recommendations; I'm going to have a little time to kill.

That was one evening :) Turning 40 doesn't mean you have to stop partying!

I would agree that tribeca is a mixed bag, soem bits seem very desolate/so-so, but that specific area is very nice/lively and with great cast iron buildings going towards Broadway.

I also liked the very bottom of Soho, transitioning from Tirbeca. The Soho Grand was a bit boring on the evening I went (90% couples/dates and I was there with a friend so a bit sedate... nice loos tho). there's a very nice place beteween Wooster and Greene, on grand street that does everything from French pastries to evening cocktails -- looks super. Unfortunately, I'm awful about remembering names (but verrgood with maps ;) ) Anyhow it's a short block.

I didn't dspend much tiem there, but the area around/south of 23rd (west) lseemd quite itnerestign and a bit less 'scene'. Taht wa actually one of teh highlights of my visit: a sort of improv-theatrical comedy routine in a virtually 'reclaime' space - very funny and very 'New York'. I enjoyed that tremedously.

August 21st, 2006, 07:20 AM
... on July 16, less than a week after the billboard went up, the tops of all four trees were mysteriously lopped off.
No witnesses, huh?

August 31st, 2006, 12:08 PM
thank you for sharing this pics.


September 1st, 2006, 09:12 PM
Franklin Pl, between Franklin St and White St.

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Staple St, between Jay St and Harrison St.

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September 1st, 2006, 09:55 PM
Nice pics! Look down that street, makes me feel as if I took a step back in time. Very early 1900's feeling.

September 4th, 2006, 07:29 PM
Atmospheric gloom.

September 15th, 2006, 11:08 PM
A local architect took a lot of heat for creating this monstrosity on West Broadway and Warren St. There was no hardship in developing the property that required the addition. It was dirty, but intact. There was always a retail presence on the ground floor, starting with an electronics store, the northern reaches of Radio Row.
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The same thing was done up the block at Church. The project was welcomed because it was to restore the streetwall to Church by incorporating several buildings that were falling apart. The result is horrible, and the Church St side doesn't look like the front.
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This led to the historic district being extended to the south, protecting midblock buildings such as this.

On the same topic of rooftop additions comes this new proposal for 66 Reade Street. Zippy, would this one also fall into the historic district?

From http://cityrealty.com/new_developments:

"The spirit of invisibility" for roof-top additions in TriBeCa 15-SEP-06


Roger Byrom, the co-chairman of the Landmarks Committee of Community Board 1, last night extolled the virtues of “the spirit of invisibility” at a presentation of plans to add three floors to a five-story building at 66 Reade Street in TriBeCa and convert it to 8 residential condominium apartments.

David Prendergast of the firm of Prendergast Laurel Architects made a presentation of the plans of Jean Hieber, the building’s owner, to the committee and said that the proposal uses only 5,000 of the 6,000 available development rights for the site.

Mr. Prendergast presented pictures that indicated that the slanted addition would not be visible from the street, but several members of the committee including Mr.Byrom were not convinced.

Mr. Prendergast argued that by lowering the existing roof level by four feet and slanting the additional floors that the roof-top addition would not be visible from the street.

The existing building has a 10-foot rear yard, but Mr. Prendergast indicated that the new top three floors would be setback 30 feet from the rear property line to comply with zoning regulations.

The committee held off a vote on the application that goes before the Landmarks Preservation Commission next month so that it could further examine the visibility of the proposed addition.

The building is between Church and Broadway.

Many of the applications for certificate of appropriateness from the Landmarks Preservation Commission are for roof-top additions to buildings in historic districts and many such additions are relatively non-descript and bulky additions that are setback from the front of the building so as to be not visible from the street and the commission and preservation and civic groups have closely examined whether such additions are visible from many directions, but have not been too concerned with the architectural merits of the additions.

Mr. Prendergast’s addition is a very dramatic cascading glass addition that while not stylistically related to the base of the building, or its immediate surroundings, is a dramatic and coherent architectural addition.

September 15th, 2006, 11:17 PM
116 Hudson St. They got this one right.
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This one was designed by BKSK Architects (http://www.bkskarch.com/bksk_home.asp). They've done some good work, especially in Tribeca. Go to Work > Residential > Multi-Family.

March 17th, 2007, 01:45 PM
A Glimpse of What SoHo Used to Be

Left, MetroHistory.com; right, Don Hogan Charles/The New York Times
A LONG-AGO QUIET The south side of White Street, looking east from
Church Street toward Broadway, in 1940, and the same view today.

NY TIMES (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/18/realestate/18SCAP.html?_r=1&oref=slogin)
March 18, 2007

Streetscapes | White Street

SOHO’S boom is history now, its narrow streets long since filled with fancy shops and crowds of tourists.

If you want to experience the quality of the old SoHo these days, you have to venture south of Canal into TriBeCa, where blocks like White Street from Church Street to Broadway have that long-ago quiet.

Start a walk on this block of White Street at Church. In the 1820s, the street was filled with little brick houses like the one at the northeast corner, No. 34, which in 1829 was occupied by Walter Heyer, a baker.

Trade began arriving by the 1830s, and after the Civil War a building boom remade White, Walker and adjacent streets into a dry-goods center.

For instance, 39 White Street, a Greek Revival house, was occupied in the 1840s by Seth Grosvenor, a merchant who died in 1857. In 1861, his estate added two floors, keeping the narrow three-abreast windows. More typical were entirely new structures, like the one his heirs built eight years later at 64-66 White, its cornice emblazoned with the Grosvenor name.

An 1863 advertisement in The Brooklyn Daily Eagle by Stevens & Carples, a military goods supplier in the newly rebuilt Grosvenor house, was revealing of the Civil War-era White Street: “Operators wanted with their own machines — good operators can make from $7 to $10 per week.”

Although SoHo is known for its cast iron, builders on White Street used masonry more often than not — like the marble front of No. 40, which is Italianate in style with an unusual frieze of three swags at the top, surmounted by the simple carved year, “1866.”

The Italianate-style facade of No. 44 White, built in 1868, has lovely khaki-colored Nova Scotia stone, the kind used on the Dakota. It seems to have been cleaned recently and is now nearly luminous.

Across the street, an unusual marble structure, at 43-45, is being advertised as “Luxury Loft Rentals.” In 1868, when the craze for mansard roofs was white-hot, an unidentified architect went all out with an imposing colonnaded facade, leading to a frieze of swags at the top of the fifth floor, itself topped by a three-part mansard roof with a pair of oculi.

In 1872, a committee of the Board of Underwriters condemned the widespread use of these wood-framed roofs, specifically noting their concentration on White Street. The New York Times reported that there were at least 150 of these roofs downtown and quoted the Board of Underwriters as calling them “huge tinderboxes.”

Across the street are the ambitious Wood’s Mercantile Buildings, at 46 and 48-50. The first five floors are strictly ho-hum, but they are set off by a broad marble cornice all across the top proclaiming, in raised letters, “18 — Wood’s Mercantile Buildings — 65.”

Don Hogan Charles/The New York Times
The Wood’s Mercantile Buildings at
46 and 48-50 White are united
by a marble cornice.

Although these old lofts have a secondhand look now, the prominent label gives an idea of the importance — or at least the pretensions — of the building’s investors, Abraham and Samuel Wood.

Peaceful as it is now, when operating at full tilt White Street was an unforgiving machine. In 1904, The Times reported on a Children’s Court hearing involving Louis Deimstein, who was 14 and worked for an unidentified firm in the Wood’s Mercantile Buildings.

He did not know where his parents were and wanted only to be left alone so he could look after his 11-year-old brother, with whom he lived at the Newsboys’ Lodging House, a well-known charitable enterprise. “I earn $4 a week, and that is enough to keep my brother and myself,” he told the court.
Nevertheless, a guardian was assigned to look after the boys “until their parents can be found and compelled to support them,” The Times reported.

Little changed on the street until 1965, when the Civic Center Synagogue, at No. 47, was built for worshipers from local businesses still in the neighborhood. Designed by William Breger, with a giant, pillowy curve, its recessed facade cannot be seen from either end of the block, but it is astonishing when suddenly revealed.

The cast-iron loft at No. 55, with a second exposure on Franklin Place, a tiny alley, is the most architecturally imposing work on the block. It was designed by John Kellum and built in 1861 as an investment by John and Samuel Condict, two saddlers. The high arcades and intricate detail were cast by Daniel Badger, although much of the present ornamentation is replacement work.

Don Hogan Charles/The New York Times
The arcaded 55 White was built
in 1861 at Franklin Place

As the industrial centers of Manhattan began to decline in the 1950s, residential tenants moved to White Street, along with some “downtown” type enterprises: Let There Be Neon, at 38; the Flea Theater, at 41; and the Manhattan Children’s Theater, at 52.

Among the conversion projects now under way is the western portion of the Wood’s Mercantile complex. Yet despite these, White Street has not followed SoHo’s lead. It can be empty on weekends.

Edward I. Mills, an architect who has worked in 48-50 White Street for 17 years, said that when he moved in, the residential invasion of the street’s upper floors was well under way, although most of the ground-floor spaces still held fabric warehouses.

Mr. Mills said that because retail rents had not risen as much as residential rents, most of the ground-floor spaces on White were now occupied by residential tenants. He put the value of residential lofts in TriBeCa at $1,000 to $1,500 per square foot.

Mr. Mills is working on a building renovation at 408 Broadway, near Walker Street, and he believes that SoHo retailers are poised to jump the Canal Street barrier. When that happens, he said, “everything south of Canal will start changing.”

Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company

August 29th, 2007, 10:22 PM

Development came slow on the blocks between Church and Broadway, especially south of Chambers. Many of the old buildings remained in disrepair, while others throughout the neighborhood were renovated.

24-26 Warren was typical.
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Scaffolding now covers the building.
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The building is being converted from commercial use to a one family dwelling. The street is not landmarked, so don't know if the entire facade is coming down.

Further down the street at 8-10 Warren, the Trinity-Stewart buildings (1860) were restored, with a well designed addition added on the roof.
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New construction at 16 Warren, the Tribeca Town Homes.
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November 7th, 2007, 06:30 AM
Tiffany's of Tribeca

By Michael J. Burlingham
http://www.tribecatrib.com/photos/news/nov07/captions/TiffanyBigCaption%20copy.gifI moved to Duane Street in 1977, lured by the diamond-pattern, no-skid loading docks, the basement vaults lit by glass disks embedded in the sidewalk, the spacious cast-iron loft buildings and, most of all, the cheap rent.
One hundred and forty years earlier, even before these industrial elements of old New York had become part of the local landscape, my great-great grandfather moved to the same neighborhood, opening a “fancy goods” shop at 259 Broadway at Warren Street. Lacking the capital to set up among the posh stores farther down Broadway, he, too, was drawn here by the area’s affordable rents.
He was Charles Lewis Tiffany, and the shop he and his partner founded in this neighborhood in 1837 went on to become the premier jewelry and silver house in the world, its flagship at Fifth Avenue and 57th Street one of the city’s iconic attractions to generations of shoppers and curiosity seekers. Last month, Tiffany & Company returned to Lower Manhattan, to 37 Wall Street. This time to cater to a new, upscale breed of Downtown dweller.
http://www.tribecatrib.com/photos/news/nov07/captions/TiffanyPortraitCaption%20copy.gifA Connecticut Yankee, born and bred, Charles Tiffany at 15 was running his father’s company store in Brooklyn, Conn., and facing a seemingly bright future as co-partner in Comfort Tiffany & Son, a water-powered textile mill that his father had established on the banks of the Quinebaug River.
Instead, he and John Young, the son of a competing mill owner from the opposite bank of the Quinebaug, decided to open a shop in Manhattan, then a boomtown of over 200,000 inhabitants. Though the Broadway and Warren Street location was considered too far uptown, it was directly opposite City Hall. And City Hall Park was a popular promenade for residents.
For their money, Tiffany & Young, as the first shop was called, got 15 feet of Broadway frontage in an “old fashioned double-dwelling” with two stores. A four-story, brick A-frame, it was rated “third class” for insurance purposes. Here on Sept. 18, 1837, Tiffany & Young opened its doors, selling Japanese fans, Chinese umbrellas, lacquered furniture, papier-mâché and terra-cotta wares, porcelain vases, walking canes, and stationery, among other offerings.
For 16 years the Tiffany store remained within what is now Tribeca, charting steady growth while establishing its hallmarks in quality, service, and honesty in trade. In 1841, the partners took over the shop on the corner, which provided more frontage on Broadway and, for the first time, a show window on Warren Street. In 1847 they consolidated operations in a newer, larger building at 271 Broadway, on the southwest corner of Chambers Street, where they remained until 1853.
http://www.tribecatrib.com/photos/news/nov07/captions/TiffanyFamilyCaption%20copy.gifIn those days, high quality meant imported goods, and the partners devoted themselves to renewing their stock via overseas suppliers. The infusion of capital from a third partner, Charles’s cousin Jabez L. Ellis, made it possible for John Young to travel abroad each year on a buying trip, giving Tiffany, Young & Ellis a leg-up on the competition.
The firm’s first offering in jewelry was a line of French paste called “Palais Royal,” which featured glass jewels in gold-plate settings. It was quite tasteful and relatively inexpensive, yet within a few years Tiffany, Young & Ellis abandoned costume jewelry for the real thing.
The importance of the Tribeca years to Tiffany’s, in particular, and to American jewelry and silver, in general, rests on the firm’s turn to manufacturing and subsequent establishment of internationally competitive benchmarks. Jewelry making commenced with the move to Chambers Street, and silverware followed within three or four years.
Tiffany married his partner’s sister Harriet in 1841, and of three children born in these years, two survived—Annie Olivia and Louis Comfort. Louis, who went on to achieve prominence as a painter, interior designer, and glassmaker, was born on February 18, 1848, four days before the event that did much to elevate Tiffany, Young & Ellis’s emporium to the front rank of diamond merchants—the outbreak of revolution in France. By coincidence, John Young had just landed in Paris on his annual buying trip and invested his entire capital on steeply discounted gems, purchased from an aristocracy fleeing the mob.
Altogether, the Tiffany family lived at three Tribeca addresses, all within a single block and all shared by John B. Young and his wife. In 1846 they moved from 124 Chambers Street across the street to No. 125. Following the death of Charles Lewis Jr., the first-born child, the Tiffanys moved to a higher-grade residence at 57 Warren Street, a “first class” masonry structure with a frame porch and a yard in back, on the south side of Warren between Church Street and College Place (the former name of West Broadway south of Chambers Street, as it approached Columbia College).
http://www.tribecatrib.com/photos/news/nov07/captions/TiffanyDuaneCaption%20copy.gifBy mid-century the neighborhood around Tiffany’s was bustling. The Hudson River Railroad established a passenger station at Hudson Street between Chambers and Warren in 1851, cater-corner from the Fredrick Hotel– one of the few extant buildings from that era and still a hotel, the Cosmopolitan. West of West Broadway/College Place, between Reade and Vesey Streets, were various industrial concerns, including a “candy sugar” refinery, a coal yard, and a tobacco factory. To the east were banks, hotels, and churches.
Fifteen years after establishing themselves on Chambers Street, in 1852, the Tiffanys headed uptown to East 10th Street near St. Marks-in-the-Bowerie, where they lived for 10 years. And the next year Tiffany bought out his partners and reorganized at 550 Broadway, between Prince and Spring Streets, under the name Tiffany & Company.
The Tribeca years were over. It is not accurate, however, to say that the Tiffanys never looked back.
During the mid-1870s, young Louis Comfort, then still exclusively a fine artist, returned to paint his boyhood haunts, which had fallen on hard times in the wake of the so called Uptown Movement. One of these views, depicting a group of tumbledown buildings, is said to have anticipated the work of the Ashcan School in its unfiltered view of urban slums. Now in the Brooklyn Museum, it is titled Duane Street. Since those days, of course, the fortunes of Duane Street and its environs have brightened considerably—to the point where it seems almost fitting that the House of Tiffany would decide to establish a beachhead near the founders’ original turf.
EDITOR’S NOTE: This article, updated here, first appeared in the September, 1995 issue of The Tribeca Trib.

May 5th, 2009, 09:12 AM

Development came slow on the blocks between Church and Broadway, especially south of Chambers. Many of the old buildings remained in disrepair, while others throughout the neighborhood were renovated.

24-26 Warren was typical.
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Scaffolding now covers the building.
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Designed by David Turner Architect

November 23rd, 2009, 09:05 PM
Saw this lovely little building over the summer thoughts I'd share.
Simple yet beautiful, 81 Hudson Street:


November 24th, 2009, 01:09 AM
There were plans to add a one story addition and convert the building into a single family residence by 1100 Architect. Perhaps the addition was canceled but the upper floors seem to have already been converted; judging by those matching curtains.


Those few blocks in Tribeca are my favorite in the city. Even all the new stuff look good.

November 24th, 2009, 10:05 AM
The applications for the 4th Floor enlargement shown at DOB are recent, but no images of the plan are seen at the architect's website:

1100 architect (http://www.1100architect.com/)

November 24th, 2009, 04:51 PM
In late 1978 I got my first answering machine. That very night I was in Puffy's and spent the whole night using the pay phone to see if I got any calls. My answering machine message? "Hanging on the Telephone" by Blondie, of course.

First thing that came to my mind when I saw the pic.

October 11th, 2010, 12:13 PM
With subtle changes, Cosmo Hotel wins over Landmarks Commission


The Landmarks Preservation Commission had strong criticisms for the
original proposal for the expansion of the Cosmopolitan Hotel, left,
but commissioners approved the plan last week after architects made a few changes, right,
including extending the bricks to the top and adding more pronounced columns.

By Julie Shapiro

New designs for the Cosmopolitan Hotel expansion won landmarks approval last week, paving the way for a new building in the Tribeca South Historic District.

The city Landmarks Preservation Commission disliked the first designs they saw for the project in June, calling the proposal “bland” and “generic.” But commissioners liked the new plans they saw Sept. 15, which are very similar to the original designs but have additional historic details.

“This has come a long way in the right way,” chairperson Bob Tierney said at the hearing. “I find every aspect of it appropriate.”

The owners of the historic Cosmopolitan Hotel at Chambers St. and W. Broadway plan to refurbish the exterior and build a six-story brick addition on an adjacent lot, demolishing the short stucco building that sits there now. Originally, architect Matthew Gottsegen wanted to connect the new building and the existing hotel by including similar modern features on both. But based on the commissioners’ feedback, he decided to restore historic elements to the original Cosmopolitan building, making the old more distinct from the new.

“This is a greatly improved project,” landmarks commissioner Margery Perlmutter said upon seeing the new designs. “Now the two buildings speak to each other without blending into each other.”

Gottsegen also made changes to the new building’s design, including the addition of more pronounced columns to the glassy ground floor and the expansion of bricks onto the top floor.

Work could begin as soon as this spring on the Cosmopolitan and the new building, which will add 25 rooms and a roof deck to the 125-room budget hotel, Gottsegen said. Gerald Barad, who owns the building with Jay Wartski, said earlier this year that they had full financing in place. The owners did not comment this week.

The Cosmopolitan has been a neighborhood fixture since it opened in 1844 as the Girard House. Over the course of many expansions and design changes, the hotel took on different names, including the Cosmopolitan and later the Bond Hotel. When the current owners took over in the 1980s, they did major renovations and resurrected the Cosmopolitan name. The hotel is now known for its no-frills rooms starting at less than $200 a night.

Before construction of the hotel’s addition can begin, the owners have to demolish the existing two-story yellow stucco building at Reade St. and W. Broadway, which houses Mary Ann’s Mexican restaurant. The building has little historic fabric, so the L.P.C. did not object to replacing it. Mary Ann’s, a small chain that started in Chelsea, is now on a month-to-month lease. The restaurant owners did not respond to a request for comment.

At first glance, the new designs the L.P.C. approved last week look similar to the ones that drew censure just a few months ago. The new six-story building is still a red-orange brick structure with a glassy storefront and a different window pattern on the top floor.

The differences are in the details. Commissioners initially complained that the new building looked like it was floating above an unsupported ground floor, so Gottsegen added columns of dark painted steel to give the base more weight. The commissioners also disliked the original plan for the top floor, which was supposed to reflect the idea of an attic with alternating bands of windows and aluminum. Gottsegen took their recommendation and extended the brick up to the top floor, which makes the building look more cohesive.

On the existing Cosmopolitan building, Gottsegen looked to the past for inspiration and decided to remove the green awnings that now wrap the ground floor of the building. The new designs restore a metal cornice over the ground floor and add cast-stone cladding around the openings, along with a wood-panel bulkhead. Signs for the stores will be painted onto the windows.

“We took our cues from the original design, to create a design that’s in the spirit of the historic district,” Gottsegen said. “I think it works very well.”

One of the biggest changes he made was to the design for the new hotel entrance on W. Broadway, which Community Board 1 members said looked far too utilitarian, like an entrance to a hospital. Now, the entrance includes a marquee similar to the one that was on Chambers St. in the 1930s, and Gottsegen will use stone to frame the entrance rather than the more modern metal panels he originally contemplated.

The new W. Broadway entrance will displace the Cosmopolitan Cafe, which opened in 2007 and has quickly become a hangout for both Tribecans and hotel guests. Craig Bero, who owns the cafe, said Wartski reassured him that the cafe would be relocated within the Cosmopolitan building, but Bero has not gotten any details or a timeline.

The recent changes to the Cosmopolitan’s design won the informal approval of the Historic Districts Council, which opposed the original application.

“For a new building in a historic district they’ve done a pretty nice job,” Nadezhda Williams, preservation associate at H.D.C., said in an e-mail.

“They made some subtle, but important changes from their initial application,” she added, listing stone lintels and the expansion of brick up to the top floor of the addition.

However, Roger Byrom, chairperson of C.B. 1’s Landmarks Committee, said his concerns about the design remained. In May, the community board recommended that the L.P.C. reject the changes to the hotel and the addition, calling the new building “blandly contextual.” Byrom’s committee requested that the owners return to the community board with suggested changes, but the owners decided to go directly to the city L.P.C., which has the final say.

Bruce Ehrmann, co-chairperson of the C.B. 1 committee, said in an e-mail that the new design was not much better.

“It’s gone from being dreadful to being a bore,” he said.


Still vacant with no work going on. This recession needs to end--I'm getting bored.

Streets are a bigger mess than usual b/c its early Sunday morning.

October 11th, 2010, 12:44 PM
Couldn't find a thread on this. Though I believe something about this must be around somewhere. The hotel planned at 87 Chambers wanted to save the facades of the 1850's buildings but in the demolition process the buildings collapsed.

Chambers Street Hotel


The landmarked site in Tribeca provides a unique setting for this boutique hotel situated behind the original 1850 Italian-style loft building marble façade. The new construction building will weave into the original structure through a series on balconies and stepped terraces that extend to the street.

Renderings attached below:

Instead, they're building on the site of the one-story taxpayer:




October 11th, 2010, 01:40 PM

These one or two blocks across from City Hall and many city agencies are a microcosm of many of the problems affecting our cityscape. Many of the m & p stores along Chambers are going out of business and being replaced by chain stores - or just sitting vacant. The DOB building sits atop a Duane Reade and a Modell's. Almost the entire frontage of Broadway across from City Hall Park is occupied by bank branches.

The streets are a mess. Every other building is covered by scaffolding though no work ever seems to be going on, including the DOB's own building.
Directly across the street from the DOB's building, a landmarked cast-iron building almost collapsed and a few lots down Chambers, two 1850's buildings collapsed. This happening on a block that is almost entirely landmarked. The one lot that for some reason wasn't landmarked, 279 Broadway, a glass piece of garbage is rising.

Foley Square has more barricades than Fort Apache.
All we need is a McSam.

Can the mayor, DOT, LPC, DOB, City Planning not see this and realize there's a problem?

October 11th, 2010, 02:39 PM
The City has just begun a 3 year project (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/chambers_street_reconstruction_79573.aspx) to rebuild the infrastructure beneath Chambers Street.

Downtown’s next ground zero of construction: Chambers St. (http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_349/downtownsnext.html)

October 13th, 2010, 09:43 PM


No movement on the twin proposal yet.

De Niro's hotel fits right in.

The building on the left is beautiful, the new one isn't aging too well. I use to like it.




You can begin to see 1WTC from Greenwich

October 13th, 2010, 10:30 PM

The project at W Broadway and N. Moore.





October 14th, 2010, 11:09 AM
Great photos. Tribeca is magnificent.

May 19th, 2012, 11:40 PM
135 West Broadway

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A remarkable survivor.

The building previously housed a Vietnamese restaurant, and reopened last year as the appropriately named Tiny's & the Bar Upstairs. Ranger goalie Henrik Lundqvist, who shut out the Devils again today, is a co-owner. It's hardly ever been vacant, with a variety of tenants. I used to get papers there.

The NYC map lists the build date as about c1920, but that's just taken from the earliest DOB occupancy certificate; actually it's the oldest building in the Tribeca South Historic District, and the only one from the Federal Era.

This area of West Broadway (originally Chapel St) was open land until after the Revolutionary War. South of a boundary that ran between Duane and Reade Sts was the large tract that was originally held by the Dutch West India Company, and deeded by Queen Anne in 1705 to Trinity Church. To the north was the farm of Anthony Rutgers.

Both these tracts were surveyed and mapped into lots and streets in the early 1760s, but construction didn't begin until the late 1780s. The brick houses were generally ground floor workshops, with living quarters above, of which 135 West Broadway was typical.

It was built c1810 as 73 Chapel St along with three others. It originally had a peaked roof with dormers that was removed in the 1850s, and clapboard sidewalls.

It survived the widening of Chapel St in the 1840s, and the Hudson River Railroad Depot at Chambers St in the 1850s.

The building to the right was constructed c1858; the rest of the block late 19th century.

October 26th, 2012, 11:49 PM
Tribeca in the 1980s

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A couple of months ago, I asked readers for old photos of Tribeca—and several of you responded. I’ve been meaning to ask again before posting them—and I promise I will follow up on that—but then I saw on Twitter that Yvonne Babineaux had uploaded a batch of vintage Tribeca photos (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15215167@N03/sets/72157631797291281/) on Flickr. “The pics are from between 1983 and 1990,” she emailed after I begged for her permission to run them here. “Most were probably taken in 1988, because some of them have a stamp on the back from the developer. They’re no later than 1991, because I moved away then.”