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ZippyTheChimp
August 4th, 2006, 11:50 AM
This forum receives a lot of spam, and while it is annoying, most people who visit here never see the majority of it. The moderators frequently scan new members and remove any objectionable posts or threads.

If a post or thread that violates the rules is encountered, use the "REPORT BAD POST" icon. Emails are generated to the administrator and moderators. If at least one of us agrees with the report, the post or thread is removed without discussion. If the poster questions why it was removed, we explain it via PM.

If the post or thread remains, that indicates that all of us disagree with the contention, and that should be the end of it. That avoids what happened here. The idea is not to treat every post as a potential crime that must be solved, but to keep the forum readable.

This thread (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10179) was also reported as an ad. Is it? I can't tell, so the poster gets the benefit of my doubt. If any other moderator responded to the alert, they agreed with me. Has it disrupted the forum? I don't think so.

Some of the attempts to hide spam and/or avoid deletion are quite funny, and after I LOL, I zap them.

Sorry to deprive others of some comedy.

ablarc
October 8th, 2006, 04:54 PM
When a thread is locked that some think is spam, does that reflect ambivalence?

I know most unequivocal spam is summarily expunged.

ZippyTheChimp
October 9th, 2006, 09:24 AM
Spam is deleted.

Threads are locked for a variety of reasons.

Examples?

Ninjahedge
October 9th, 2006, 09:33 AM
I have been seeing a rash of spam in the last month r two.

It is kind of funny when you see the automatic generators out there trying to do this kind of thing.

Youhave a few basic types of spam:

Political (Juna -> Jula and 'her' rants on china are a good example)
Real Estate
Financial
"general"

Most come from a new member that has very little imagination in a name that looks like a randomly generated Hotmail address (Bob1234). They come on with their first post to tell us about something GREAT in their life that you need to click on to believe.

You would think that some of them would take a bit more time to soften the blow before they go for the sale. Post a link on te 3rd or 4th post, but no, that would not yeild them the results they need.

But whatever. I will keep reporting them any time I see them.

ablarc
October 16th, 2006, 07:34 AM
use the "REPORT BAD POST" icon.
Where can that be found?

ZippyTheChimp
October 16th, 2006, 08:36 AM
Top right of each post.

! inside a white triangle.

Emails will automatically be sent to all moderators.

ablarc
October 16th, 2006, 09:07 AM
^ Thanks.

ZippyTheChimp
October 16th, 2006, 09:38 AM
88 of the last 500 new members (17%) were banned for spamming.

pianoman11686
October 16th, 2006, 01:10 PM
I hear that Hormel (the creator of SPAM, i.e. the spiced-ham product) is looking to sue software companies for copyright infringement because of their use of the word in promoting anti-spam programs.

Ninjahedge
October 16th, 2006, 01:32 PM
At the same time they should have to pay them for all the free advertisement.

Call it even and leave it at that.

pianoman11686
October 16th, 2006, 01:38 PM
Well, I don't know about that. Spam (the internet kind) is looked down upon as a bad thing. And while SPAM isn't exactly the healthiest food at there, that doesn't mean it needs any more negative connotations.

ZippyTheChimp
October 16th, 2006, 02:25 PM
When in Austin, Minnesota, be sure to visit the SPAM Museum (http://media.hormel.com/templates/knowledge/knowledge.asp?id=9&catitemid=16)

ZippyTheChimp
February 1st, 2009, 02:17 AM
For 40 minutes this morning,
the Internet was all spam

http://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/spam1.png


MG Siegler | January 31st, 2009

We’ve known for a while that there are a lot of bad websites out there that could damage your computer or wish to stealing your personal information. But this morning, it was revealed that 100 percent of all websites wished to do you harm — or at least, according to a little search site called Google that is.

Yes, between 6:30 AM PST and 7:35 AM PST, every single listing for every single search done through Google was flagged with the warning “This site may harm your computer,” Google’s vice president of search product and user experience, Marissa Mayer explained today on the Google Blog (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/this-site-may-harm-your-computer-on.html). While this was obviously an error — and a bad one — the blame game led to some further confusion.

Initially, Google noted that the site StopBadware.org (http://stopbadware.org/) provided its badware data (a listing of sites that intend to harm visitors), and seemed to indicate that being the root of the error. In fact, StopBadware.org does not provide Google with badware data, but instead simply helps Google come up with the cirteria for maintaining its own list. Google updated its post to clarify that it was in fact Google’s own fault and StopBadware.org wrote it own post (http://blog.stopbadware.org/2009/01/31/google-glitch-causes-confusion) on the matter as well.

Mayer notes that users who saw the erroneously flagged search results only encountered them for about 40 minutes or so. Still, it’s worth repeating that it was every single page that Google indexes on the Internet that was flagged as spam during that time period.

If Google does another round of layoffs (http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/14/google-finally-confirms-real-actual-layoffs-sort-of/), I have a feeling I know where they’ll start.

© 2004-2009(c) Matt Marshall.

Jasonik
February 1st, 2009, 12:20 PM
Yeah, that was a bitch -- especially since the warning page didn't link directly to the "dangerous" page, the url had to be copied and pasted into the browser. :mad:

Bob
February 2nd, 2009, 12:12 AM
What IS "spam," as considered by the moderators of this forum? I think new members mess up when they initially join up on Wired New York, because they're excited about the content, and they really don't yet have a feel for the community. I looked up "spam" the other day online, and the explanations left me confused. All this is to say, we could probably ALL use a little more guidance. Would the moderators give us some examples of what they consider spam? This way, we will know what to avoid. Thanks.

NYatKNIGHT
February 2nd, 2009, 02:45 PM
Most spam comes from a new member and a post or posts containing any number of links, either blatantly or slipped into otherwise regular conversation.

ZippyTheChimp
February 2nd, 2009, 04:06 PM
What IS "spam," as considered by the moderators of this forum?Spam originated as mass-emails (advertising), usually from automated senders to huge address lists. Sometimes, when a website asks you for your email address, they are "harvesting addresses" that are sold to spammers. That's why it's a good idea to have a secondary email to provide to sites. That way, if the filters aren't blocking the spam. you can delete the address and use something else without having to tell everyone that your address has changed.

Spam on a forum like WNY is a little different, in that there's no bulk posting. Spammers usually work off a list of popular and/or related forums, and register on dozens at a time. Then they'll come back to each forum, and paste in a standard post with an advertising link. Sometimes they'll try to hide it in a related thread, but more often it's blatant multiple posts, sometimes one in each sub-forum. All these posts are deleted and the users banned, but they don't really care. The theory is that the more forums they post on, the better the chance that some will remain as free advertising.

Sometimes, I see a banned spammer return and attempt to open a thread, which is blocked. He will either cross off WNY from his list as a waste of time, or re-register a new user ID to start the process all over again.


I think new members mess up when they initially join up on Wired New York, because they're excited about the content, and they really don't yet have a feel for the community.New members with good intent are hardly ever confused with spamming, which is blatant advertising.

See internet trolling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)).

Unlike spamming, trolling is difficult for us to identify, but unless someone has a lot of patience in setting up the troll-identity, veteran members aren't suspect. So if a veteran makes a troll-like post, you might get a argument from another member in the discussion, but it's ignored by moderators.

However, if a newcomer makes the same troll-like post as #1, warning flags go up. Since there's no familiarity with his posting-personality, he is immediately suspect.

So my advice to a newcomer is to first of all, read the rules. Maybe read through several of the threads in Forum Issues. Get to know the place.

ZippyTheChimp
July 25th, 2012, 09:38 AM
I just banned someone whose profile showed...

Interests: Suffering internet.

Merry
November 1st, 2012, 06:38 AM
Crikey! Has Hurricane Sandy washed up all the spammers on the shores of WNY?!

Or is it because Zippy isn't here to blow them back out to sea?

Hope all is well with you and your family, Zip.

Derek2k3
November 1st, 2012, 09:31 AM
That crossed my mind as well. There's still isn't any power in BPC. Hope everything is okay Zippy.

hbcat
November 2nd, 2012, 09:53 AM
Crikey! Has Hurricane Sandy washed up all the spammers on the shores of WNY?!

Or is it because Zippy isn't here to blow them back out to sea?

Hope all is well with you and your family, Zip.

i was thinking the same thing. And, yes, we hope you are ok, Zippy.

hbcat
November 2nd, 2012, 10:21 AM
The spammers are using the blog feature. Should these get reported? I guess we can ignore them.

Edward
November 2nd, 2012, 12:24 PM
Zippy was not here since Tuesday, hopefully he is OK.

Edward
November 2nd, 2012, 12:25 PM
The spammers are using the blog feature. Should these get reported? I guess we can ignore them.
I cleaned up the spam, including the blogs, so please do report if you see spam.

eddhead
November 3rd, 2012, 12:41 AM
I want to echo good wishes to Zippy. Hope all is well

ZippyTheChimp
November 6th, 2012, 01:13 AM
Hello folks. On behalf of my family, I appreciate your kind thoughts.

I am truly blessed. No one I know has suffered any physical harm, although several friends have had significant property loss. That's where we've been for a week, and came home to vote tomorrow. Then it's back out for at least another week.

We rode out the hurricane at home, and were never in any danger. BPC fared rather well, and residents were safe as long as they stayed inside. Only a few buildings had power outages, and I think they were proactive shutdowns to avoid equipment damage. One Gateway Plaza building had basement flooding, and lost power for several days.

When the sea breached the esplanade, I knew that West St was in trouble. BPC is about at the same elevation as Greenwich St, so that makes West St a river valley. That's where all the water collected. On Tuesday, the streets were messy but dry, and the traffic signals operated. We briefly became Battery Park City Island. It was a weird reversal of a barrier island that usually has the most storm damage. We had lights while the "mainland" was dark.

I found out that a friend of mine who lives in Long Beach LI lost his home. His son lives in the area, and his home was also destroyed. Both lost their cars. We've been helping them salvage what they can and move in with relatives. The area is a disaster zone.

I've been staying with my sister, who lives in Glen Cove (mostly downed trees and spotty power outages there). She ordered me to pick up her friends in Neponsit; they'll be staying with her while they repair damage. The Rockaways is also a mess.

I've browsed around the site. Sorry that some of you have suffered loss, but I'm glad no one was hurt.

I'll check in from time to time.

Annie741
November 6th, 2012, 01:32 AM
Good to hear from you Zippy & news of BPC.

And now for the long haul of clean up & helping New Yorkers get back their lives.

All the best for your friends & family.

hbcat
November 6th, 2012, 05:56 AM
It's good to see you back, even if only for a visit, and know that you are ok.

Ninjahedge
November 8th, 2012, 01:54 PM
Zip, I know about LBI, my folks are on the island just south of that.

Major wreckage.

I am hoping for the best for all and I am glad that you are all right.

mariab
November 8th, 2012, 09:44 PM
Same here. Now everyone can get back to proper bickering about politics & religion (hopefully not).

ZippyTheChimp
November 10th, 2012, 08:14 AM
@NH: Not Long Beach Island, New Jersey. Long Beach, Long Island.

Merry
November 10th, 2012, 08:23 AM
Good to see you back, Zip :). Hope all's well? Best wishes from Oz.

Staying this time, or still more work to do?

ZippyTheChimp
November 10th, 2012, 08:30 AM
Everything is fine with me. Heading out to the Rockaways.

ZippyTheChimp
November 13th, 2012, 08:55 AM
Moderation filter working very well. Of 87 spam threads opened overnight, only 4 got through to the forum.

eddhead
November 13th, 2012, 10:25 AM
Belated well wishes, Zip. I am glad you are safe and all is relatively well.

Ninjahedge
November 13th, 2012, 02:00 PM
@NH: Not Long Beach Island, New Jersey. Long Beach, Long Island.

Understood. Easy to conflate.

ZippyTheChimp
December 6th, 2012, 10:29 AM
A high percentage of the spam posts are about Uggs. Many of the user names are Uggs-something.

Are these things still popular? I hardly ever see them; and when I do, it's either a woman saying "I don't want to hook up with anybody" or "I'm so gorgeous, I can get away with wearing these fugly things."

Apparently, the Anti-Spam software agrees; it filters out almost all the uggs posts.

Ninjahedge
December 6th, 2012, 11:22 AM
I will have to look. The fuzzy-Uggs are out everywhere (unless I am mistaking them for another brand0, but the sandals.... I almost never see them (except on in-laws... MAN they are fugly.).

ZippyTheChimp
December 6th, 2012, 11:47 AM
There's sandals?????

I don't ever want to see that.

Ninjahedge
December 6th, 2012, 12:35 PM
Sorry, I am convoluting Crocks:

http://www.ultrafeel.tv/wp-content/uploads/image/stories/crocs/crocs-croc-shoes-shoe-sandal-cayman.jpg

*shudder*

lofter1
December 11th, 2012, 10:20 AM
A high percentage of the spam posts are about Uggs. Many of the user names are Uggs-something.

Are these things still popular? I hardly ever see them; and when I do, it's either a woman saying "I don't want to hook up with anybody" or "I'm so gorgeous, I can get away with wearing these fugly things."

Apparently, the Anti-Spam software agrees; it filters out almost all the uggs posts.

The Ugg store in SoHo (on Mercer between Spring & Broome) often has a line out the door. Even in bad weather. Out of towners all aspiring to the Bedrock look.

Go figure.

They could at least aim for something more attractive ...

http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/raquel-welch-one-million-years-de.jpg

ZippyTheChimp
December 11th, 2012, 10:41 AM
Raquel was more "fuzzy britches."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ojoQ938Wio

eddhead
December 11th, 2012, 12:02 PM
Loana The Fair One - An oldie, but a goodie.

eddhead
December 11th, 2012, 01:21 PM
speaking of spam....

Ninjahedge
December 11th, 2012, 01:42 PM
Missed it by that much.....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DKo6qK5eKEs/TXKOD-XJCoI/AAAAAAAAA6Q/wcZpSrLjuuY/s1600/maxwellsmart_missed_it_by_that_much.jpg

mariab
December 11th, 2012, 08:10 PM
I could be reaching here, but I doubt any of you notice what "lovely Raquel" is wearing on her feet.

eddhead
December 12th, 2012, 09:53 AM
Does she have feet?

ZippyTheChimp
December 21st, 2012, 10:26 AM
The Ugg store in SoHo (on Mercer between Spring & Broome) often has a line out the door. Even in bad weather. Out of towners all aspiring to the Bedrock look.

Go figure.

I guess I was wrong. More Uggs than you can shake a leg at.

A screenshot of user IDs, just for one IP. Only one posted, which led me to the others.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5092/spam1w.jpg

IrishInNYC
December 21st, 2012, 10:33 AM
China has declared Ugg war?

Ninjahedge
December 21st, 2012, 10:39 AM
China has declared Ugg war?

China? That would be Ugg Lee.

Or would that be more Korean...... :confused:

Merry
October 7th, 2014, 10:49 AM
Crikey! What's going on here?

https://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/867516217.png?1412693146

Sorry, it's not very big. Lots of weird (suspect?) user names.

scumonkey
October 7th, 2014, 02:55 PM
I noticed that last night (quite late/early on the east coast) as well?!

mariab
October 8th, 2014, 09:12 AM
Beware strange messages from unknown users in inbox. I sent link to Edward this morning.

Merry
October 8th, 2014, 09:36 AM
^ I got one, too. Duly reported.

hbcat
October 9th, 2014, 09:07 AM
Yes, and also reported.

And there are loads of new suspicious-looking IDs online right now, e.g, "nfxmhyafs (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=62341),
nbvht0l38 (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=62654),
huyyz4u56 (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=62656),
tyhgu2a5 (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=62655),
jjgj1i83 (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=62659),
huyyl7u03 (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=62658),
huyyc9u98 (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=62660),
alkanoskirl (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/member.php?u=60496)"




Apologies if any of those are "real".

Edward
October 9th, 2014, 11:22 AM
I am trying to re-open the forum to new registrations. At this moment this requires manual approval by a moderator. And those funny names are probably all spammers, currently not approved, so without posting priviliges, and eventually will be deleted. I have also limited the messaging capabilities for new members, so this should improve on private message spam situation.

mariab
October 9th, 2014, 04:45 PM
Thanks Edward.