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November 16th, 2006, 11:00 PM
where in manhattan are the nicest brownstones areas(streets i mean)???i have some visitors from canada and they would like to see some nice streets with brownstones(something that's looks like park slope of broooklyn)but in manhattan area.what area would that be???anyone knows!?

November 16th, 2006, 11:12 PM
Try the West Seventies between CPW and Broadway.

November 17th, 2006, 10:22 AM
I second the West Seventies.

If you want to be downtown, take them by Chelsea Square -- West 20th Street, between Ninth and Tenth, and look at the seminary and all the brownstones around it, and grab cafe au lait at La Bergamote.

ali r.
{downtown broker}

ps: www.nysonglines.com is a great resource for knowing what you'll hit on any given block.

November 17th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Try the West Seventies between CPW and Broadway.
that's what i thought..mu friend lived at 80...and some and it looked really nice there,but i couldn't remember whether it was a brownstone or jusT a few stories buildings...

November 17th, 2006, 06:44 PM
I second the West Seventies.

If you want to be downtown, take them by Chelsea Square -- West 20th Street, between Ninth and Tenth, and look at the seminary and all the brownstones around it, and grab cafe au lait at La Bergamote.

ali r.
{downtown broker}

ps: www.nysonglines.com (http://www.nysonglines.com) is a great resource for knowing what you'll hit on any given block.

thanks...cafe au lait always sounds very good!mmmmm...

November 9th, 2012, 11:52 PM
Why does it have to be to such extremes? The one on 64th should not be allowed. They call them revisionists. They're just gutting it and using the structure for their own flights of fancy without any regard for the neighborhood around them.

The Brownstone Revisionists

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/11/11/realestate/11COVER_SPAN/11COVER_SPAN-articleLarge.jpgRafael Vinoly Architects; Marilynn K.Yee/The New York Times
Left, a rendering shows East 64th Street with No. 162 razed and replaced by a fritted glass structure with a bowed facade by Rafael Viñoly. Right, No. 162 as it looks today.

By CONSTANCE ROSENBLUM (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/constance_rosenblum/index.html)

Published: November 9, 2012

WHEN Charles Lockwood’s now-classic book “Bricks and Brownstones” was published in the early ‘70s, there was only one thing to do with an old New York town house — restore it to within an inch of its pristine 19th-century glory. The brownstone revival movement had started a few years earlier, and in Manhattan (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/classifieds/realestate/locations/newyork/newyorkcity/manhattan/?inline=nyt-geo) and growing swaths of Brooklyn (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/classifieds/realestate/locations/newyork/newyorkcity/brooklyn/?inline=nyt-geo), the talk on the street was of marble stoops, brass doorknobs, wide-plank pine floors and original wainscoting — the fancier the better.

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Left to right: Marilynn K. Yee/The New York Times; Rendering by Baxt Ingui Architects and Perspective Arts

Among the suggestions for modernizing a town house at 338 West 15th Street is to extend the back of the building, left, as shown in the architect’s rendering, right, which also adds a glass-walled penthouse.

Impeccably restored town houses still set the tone today for most brownstone neighborhoods. But it’s increasingly common to find vintage town houses sheathed in glass, aluminum and other relentlessly contemporary materials. Especially in Brooklyn, rear facades are being opened up — “blown out” is the term architects use — to provide large doses of light and air. Many of these reworkings take the form of sweeping glass rear walls, designed to transform spaces that for all their charm are typically small and dark. Some changes boggle the imagination: Preservationists still talk about owners who sought to install a lobster tank atop a newly acquired town house.

Although the neighbors aren’t always thrilled about such developments, they don’t automatically storm the barricades in protest. Some even engage in cordial conversations with their neighbors and the architects, the goal being to end up with a design that makes everyone happy.
This is what happened on East 64th Street between Lexington and Third Avenues, a stretch of town houses edged by trees and graceful bishop’s-crook lampposts. Though not protected by the city’s Landmarks Preservation Commission, the block has its share of bay windows, decorative pediments and Juliet balconies. The ornate homes will soon be joined by a second Modernist facade.
No. 164, a five-story building owned by Anthony Faillace, the founder of a hedge fund, sits behind a boxy natural granite facade punctured by oversize maroon steel-framed windows, designed by Michael Rubin Architects (http://www.michaelrubinarchitects.com/). Next door at No. 162, a 19th-century town house will be razed and replaced by a six-story structure featuring a bowed facade of fritted blueish-gray glass. The architect is Rafael Viñoly (http://www.rvapc.com/), whose high-profile creations pepper the globe. The owner, Eduardo Eurnekian, a prominent Argentine businessman, plans to use the building for offices and residential space.
In Mr. Viñoly’s opinion, the new building will be a good neighbor, even if it initially turns some heads. “The facade being replaced is undistinguished,” he said. “And imitating an architectural vocabulary simply because it’s there isn’t an appropriate response nowadays.”
And Kenneth Laub, a commercial real estate broker who created and for many years led the block association, couldn’t be more pleased.
“Both Mr. Eurnekian and Mr. Viñoly consulted with us about the design,” said Mr. Laub, whose 8,000-square-foot town house across the street, complete with atrium, portable frescoes and eight working marble fireplaces, is on the market with Halstead for nearly $28 million. “Originally Rafael proposed a facade with dark brown metal louvers, which to be honest we weren’t crazy about. But we talked, and I suggested some ideas, and he was very cooperative. What they ended up with is much softer and nicer.”
Mr. Laub realizes that the story could have ended quite differently. “But both men say they love what this street has become and they want to get along with their neighbors,” he said. “Name a street as beautiful as this. And if Viñoly’s building is impressive and brings greater credence to the street, we’re happy.”

Ask architects and urban historians why infatuation with the look of the traditional 19th-century town house, a beloved feature of so many New York neighborhoods, seems to be waning in some quarters, and the answers are many and varied.
To start with, the city’s vintage town houses aren’t getting any younger.
“When the brownstone revival movement started, the effort was to restore buildings,” said Brendan Coburn (http://cwbarchitects.com/person/brendan-coburn/), a Brooklyn architect who so radically transformed his Carroll Gardens row house that everything behind the red-brick facade is brand-new. “But in the past 40 years these houses have aged a lot. Many have fallen apart. They need major electrical and mechanical work.” If the innards of a building are being redone and a facade is crumbling, he said, an owner might choose to redo the entire look.
Also at work are shifting aesthetics that include a greater respect for Modernism. “Tastes change, and part of that change is generational,” said David Hecht (http://www.barrettdesign.com/about/team/david), a Brooklyn architect who retrofitted his town house in Clinton Hill. “Contemporary sensibility is more casual, more informal, more flowing. And because town houses are inherently flexible, they can accommodate these changes. It’s part of the continuum of the history, not a departure but the next turn of the wheel.”
Many town-house owners have already updated their interiors; to rethink the facades may simply be the inevitable next step.

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