New Tower at 161 Maiden Lane?

[londonlawyer]

Spooky on SSC posted a rendering of a nice new tower on this site. Does anyone know about this?

[londonlawyer]

The following information about this tower just appeared on Cityrealty.com (Dec. 4, 2006):

http://www.cityrealty.com/graphics/uploads/1165273279_maide161.jpg

Sleek mixed-use tower planned for 161 Maiden Lane 04-DEC-06

A sleek, mixed-use tower is planned for 161 Maiden Lane, a site directly south of the proposed residential tower designed by Santiago Calatrava for Sciame Construction Company at 80 South Street.
The new mixed-use tower, which overlooks the East River a few blocks south of the South Street Seaport, has been designed by Rogers Marvel Architects.

It is north of the 41-story dark glass office building with an angled base and a space-frame lobby at 180 Maiden Lane that was designed by Der Scutt, then at Swanke Hayden Connell.

The Calatrava tower, a stack of 10 four-story residential “cubes,” has received wide critical acclaim but its status in uncertain as construction has not started and apparently no units have yet been sold.

Mr. Calatrava was quoted in a Fortune Magazine article last month as stating that he was “full of hope we will start it,” although an article by Gabby Warshawer in this month’s edition of The Real Deal noted that the marketing firm for the project, I. Kahn Inc., & Company, was “no longer associated with the building’s marketing and sales,” and that the project’s building plans, which were approved January 28, 2005, may need to be resubmitted next month to avoid being considered “dormant.”

The Calatrava tower and another major tower nearby designed by Frank O. Gehry for Forest City Rattner on Beekman Street near City Hall were widely seen as greatly enhancing Lower Manhattan especially during the long uncertainties and controversies over the redevelopment of Ground Zero.

Construction has started on the Gehry-designed tower and recently plans for its public plazas have been unveiled. Rob Rogers, a partner in Rogers Marvel, told CityRealty.com today that the 161 Maiden Lane project, which would probably be about 500 feet tall, is still in preliminary design, which should be finalized by early next year.

His firm’s design won a design competition for the project, which, Mr. Rogers said, will be the first project in New York City for a major developer.

Renderings of the project on the architectural firm’s website indicate that it would have a light-colored façade with a top ratcheted at the corners by inset balconies.

Mr. Rogers said that the developer for his project has had discussions with Mr. Calatrava’s developer, adding that the 80 South Street project is “having marketing challenges but is very exciting and great for New York.”

Rogers Marvel Architects PLLC recently designed the very handsome Theory Corporate Headquarters low-rise office building near the Gansevoort Hotel and Pastis restaurant in the Meatpacking District, the Studio Museum in Harlem, One Seventh Avenue South and 350 West Broadway.

[londonlawyer]

The moron, Balazs, should have hired this architect.

[krulltime]

http://www.curbed.com/archives/2006_6_calatrava.jpg

This building is actually across Fletcher Street from the 80 South Street site.
161 Maiden Street will rise here.


http://www.justinberzon.com/161MaidenLane.jpg
Rogers Marvel Architects
http://rogersmarvel.com/

http://www.justinberzon.com/161MaidenLane.htm
Berzon has it listed at 525 feet.

This will complement 80 South Street nicely I hope...and I'm not believing 80 South Street is dead until I read that press release.

Derek2k3 posted this already on the 80 South St - Downtown - Calatrava - Condo (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4612)thread.

[krulltime]

More renderings...


http://www.pbase.com/image/71218076.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/71218057.jpg

[londonlawyer]

I am elated to hear that this is on the Zeytuna site. That building is a horrific eyesore!

[lofter1]

As I posted as a follow-up on the 80 South Street thread: As of yet no DOB filings for this new one at 161 Maiden Lane.

[jeffpark]

i think it will be a Hotel,

[pianoman11686]

Should be taller. It forms too much of a plateau effect with 180 Maiden, not to mention the rest of the Downtown skyline.

[sfenn1117]

Definitely....or even shorter. It looks like a bookend to #180.

[Jake]

taller will unfortunately obstruct American International, sure wouldn't want that

[antinimby]

http://www.pbase.com/image/71218057.jpg
Looks ominous.

[antinimby]

Anyone know what the building they're razing for this looks like?

I know londonlawyer's opinion, but we can't rely on his opinion (:D), can we?

And what about the community board?

I can't imagine them being able to throw this up in this area without even hearing a whimper from our neighborhood friends?

[stache]

It doesn't do much for the skyline -

[lofter1]

NOTHING on this project at DOB, City Planning or Community Board 1 websites.

It appears that we're in the "sell it to the public" PR mode for this one ...

There is a link to the property site at the new NYC Map Portal (http://gis.nyc.gov/doitt/mp/map.htm?mapAction=zoomIn&zoomLevel=1&zoomLevelCount=10&layerId=&visible=&brand=NYC&direction=&x=166&y=252) (which has a great feature if you click >> "Lot info" -- that link gives basic information for a particular property without having to zip around to various other sites) :

Borough: MANHATTAN
Block: 72
Lot: 2
Police Precinct: 1
Address: 161 MAIDEN LANE, NEW YORK, 10038
Owner: HASA REALTY LLC
Lot Area: 5330
Lot Frontage: 115.67
Lot Depth: 49
Number of Buildings: 1
Year Built: 1987
Number of Floors: 6
Bldg Gross Area: 35180
Flr Area Ratio:
Max Allow Flr Area Ratio: 15
Residential Units: 0
Total # of Units: 8
Land Use: 05
Zoning: C5-3 Special Dist: LM
Commercial Overlay: N/A Zoning
Map #: 12B

Dept. of City Planning, PLUTO 05D © 2006

[lofter1]

IMHO if 161 ML gets built then that will be the nail in the coffin for Calatrava's 80 South Street proposal.

[kliq6]

what is the mix use of this office/condo, hotel/condo, condo/retail?? Ive heard nothing of this project anywhere

[lofter1]

Anyone know what the building they're razing for this looks like?

I know londonlawyer's opinion, but we can't rely on his opinion (:D), can we?

It's in CB 1 ...

Here's a pic (the light brick one, 80 South in the background -- and look how narrow Fletcher Street is between them) ...

http://www.wirednewyork.com/skyscrapers/80south/80south_street_seaport_7mar04.jpg (http://www.wirednewyork.com/skyscrapers/80south/default.htm)

[antinimby]

Hey, that's actually a decent-looking building.

I was right not to rely on londonlawyer's tastes. :D

And yes, they are nearly side by side.

[londonlawyer]

Hey, that's actually a decent-looking building.

I was right not to rely on londonlawyer's tastes. :D

And yes, they are nearly side by side.

The red brick building where 80 So. St. was to rise is nice, but they Zeytuna building is a POS. You have to see it in person.

[lofter1]

Looking down the very narrow Fletcher Street from Front Street towards South Street (80 South is on the left in the background, 161 Maiden is on the right):

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Financial%20District/FletcherSt_01b.jpg

[antinimby]

I can't believe there are still parking lots in this part of Lower Manhattan.

Two, count 'em - two in one picture!

[lofter1]

How the area looked in years gone by ...

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/hb/hb_54.90.130.jpg

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/spacer.gifView of South Street, from Maiden Lane, New York City, ca. 1827

Description (http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/amdr2/hod_54.90.130.htm)

William James Bennett (American, ca. 1784–1844)
Watercolor on off-white wove paper; 9 5/8 x 13 5/8 in. (24.4 x 34.7 cm)
The Edward W. C. Arnold Collection of New York Prints, Maps, and Pictures, Bequest of Edward W. C. Arnold, 1954 (54.90.130)

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/amdr2/ho_54.90.130.htm

[stache]

^ Before the last big fire -

[antinimby]

A close up of the base.

Not liking it.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1416/161maidenlnll9.jpg

[Fabrizio]

How charming!

[kliq6]

is this building a Hotel or Condo?

[Derek2k3]

I know it at least has a hotel component.

[krulltime]

Costes Brothers eye Manhattan


By Jonathan Scheff
January 17, 2007

The Costes brothers, the famous French hoteliers, are rumored to be scouting Manhattan for their first development across the Atlantic.

Costes, as well as other big names - the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, Four Seasons, and more - bid on an available lot on Maiden Lane in Lower Manhattan, said one source close to the Costes' representatives in the U.S.

"I think the deal is off, but they're actively looking for a secure site in Manhattan," the source said.

Vivian Deuschl, vice president of public relations for the Ritz-Carlton, denied ever bidding on a Maiden Lane site. Costes representatives did not return telephone calls inquiring about their intentions.

In the cutthroat market of New York City hotel development, companies do not often reveal their intentions to the public. The source who knows the Costes' representatives in New York, said, "These things aren't typically spoken about until there's a signed deal."

He said, however, that he would expect a new Costes project in the near future.

Costes brothers Jean-Louis and Gilbert, and Gilbert's son, Thierry, are known for their hip and chic properties, like Hotel Costes, which opened in 1995. Their Paris empire now boasts 40 hotels, cafes and restaurants.


Copyright © 2003-2005 The Real Deal.

[LeCom]

The tower portion of the base looks alright, nothing out of the ordinary for Downtown. The windowless lowrise portion, however, needs to go.

[mumbles]

park hotel it says on the rendering of the bus shelter? where's the park?

[Derek2k3]

I wish they would have left the existing buildings alone and just built on the lot. Much more interesting streetscape and more likely a taller/slender tower to break the dominoes on the east river waterfront.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/399485294_5a6b018192_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/399485296_6e4f1bb6a7_o.jpg

While I'm babbling on about slender towers on the waterfront, remember this?


NEW YORK: city considers 7 400 ft towers over FDR

DOWNTOWN EXPRESS
City floats tower-park idea for the East River
By Josh Rogers

After a half century or so of new East Side waterfront plans, city officials think they may have an idea that won’t end up with all of the others – that is, sleeping with the East River fishes.

They are now considering building seven apartment towers over the F.D.R. Drive to pay for an additional 12 acres of park space in Lower Manhattan.

The plan also includes creating the “Champs Elysées of the Lower East Side,” building a pedestrian-cycling ramp connecting Battery Park to the East River, building new park spaces on Peck Slip and Pier 15 near the Seaport, and adding pavilion spaces under the F.D.R. for things like cafes, studios, cultural spaces, and community centers. This part of the plan would not require the towers and could be completed in phases over the next three to five years. It is expected to cost at least $100 million and be paid for mostly with federal, post-9/11 money administered by the Lower Manhattan Development Corp.

Amanda Burden, chairperson of the City Planning Commission, told Downtown Express that she was hopeful the L.M.D.C. board would authorize the money by the end of the year.

The tower plan is considered a longer-term project. Up to seven narrow towers, perhaps as tall as 400 feet, would rise from the street through the center of the elevated F.D.R. The apartments could generate several hundred million dollars of revenue needed to build and maintain about 12 acres of new park space over the river.

Even though the slips would cover more of the water than the traditional piers in the Hudson River Park, city consultants say they would be designed to be friendly to marine life and the slips would have fewer structures in the river than piers. The State Dept. of Environmental Conservation and the Army Corps of Engineers have long been reluctant to approve projects that involve rebuilding or repairing piers because of the effects to fish.

The buildings would cover a six-block area and be near Old Slip, Gouverneur La., Wall St., Pine St. and Maiden La. They would line up with the streets to create clear access to the river, and protect whatever river view corridors exist in spite of the elevated roadway.

The seven proposed buildings combined, would be a maximum of about 1 million square feet. City officials, who presented the plan to a Community Board 1 committee Wednesday, said they were open to building fewer or smaller buildings, but that would also mean the new park space would be reduced.

They believe they can finance two square feet of park space for every three square feet of apartment space, although detailed financial plans with various options are still being studied.

Michael Davies, a director of Richard Rogers Partnership, a British architectural firm working on the project, said the plan would help New York catch up to other cities by making better use of its rivers.

“The waterfront is way below the stature of this great city,” Davies told C.B. 1 members. “[This will] turn it into the front yard for Downtown.”

Some nearby building owners and their representatives are beginning to react negatively to the tower part of the plan, concerned about the loss of river views and the effects to the F.D.R., which would be reduced by one or two lanes.

“To me the drive is an asset,” Harry Bridgwood, who manages the massive office building at 55 Water St., said in a telephone interview. He said prospective commercial tenants typically want to make sure that black car limousines will be able to get to and from the building quickly. Condo owners at 3 Hanover Sq., who opposed a proposal several years ago to build a trading floor office tower on 55 Water St. on an elevated plaza, may also raise objections.

Many people at the meeting reacted favorably to the general park aspects of the plan, while objecting to some of the specifics.

Randy Polumbo, who lives and works in the Seaport, said he has to constantly clean his windows because of car fumes from the highway.

“We don’t really have a view corridor, we have an F.D.R. corridor,” said Polumbo. “The F.D.R. is so ugly. I feel like you are threading this large intestine through this jewel.”

Polumbo, who owns his building, said he thought the roadway should be taken down altogether. He went on to say that if Lower Manhattan had “to sell its soul” to accept more large buildings, it is important to make sure the buildings are architecturally significant and that some of the grit of the historic Seaport neighborhood be preserved when the Fulton Fish Market leaves toward the beginning of next year.

City Planning’s Burden told Polumbo: “I loved what you said.”

As for taking down the F.D.R., consultants did consider it but decided not to do it because it would have required an eight-lane, street-level roadway. The Downtown Alliance and C.B. 1 did a joint study of the area several years ago and concluded that the F.D.R. should not be taken down and the area underneath could be used for pavilions similar to the city’s current plan.

The study also considered closing a few lanes of the roadway to create a walkway. Now the reduced lanes may be used to create space for residential building cores.

The apartments would be attached to the core and cantilever over the highway with waterfront views to the east and no western windows facing Lower Manhattan’s skyscrapers. The apartment floor plate would be small, about 5,000 square feet, which could accommodate several apartments per floor.

Gregg Pasquarelli of SHoP Architects said the buildings could be built without closing any additional lanes of the F.D.R. The lowest level apartments would be over the roadway and be the equivalent of five stories off of the ground.

The first phase improvements designed by Rogers Partnership, SHoP and landscape architect Ken Smith, include the pedestrian-bicycle ramp connection near the historic Battery Maritime Building, a reflecting pool plaza to replace the Fish Market parking area on Peck Slip, rebuilding open space on Pier 15, a tree-lined boulevard along Allen and Pike Sts. (what Pasquarelli likened to the Champs Elysées), a better southern entrance to East River Park, the F.D.R. pavilions, and could include things like 1,000 birch trees and a small beach area near the Brooklyn Bridge.

Paul Goldstein, C.B. 1’s district manager, said the short term plans were “under-whelming” because so much of the money is being used for the Maritime ramp. “I think we are deferring everything for 10 or 20 years,” said Goldstein. He said the plans for open space on Pier 15 looked to be geared to accommodate tall ships and not the most pressing park need on the East Side – play space for children.

City Planning officials stressed that it was still early in the process, but seemed much more willing to design something different for Pier 15 than not building the Battery building connection. The city spent $36 million to restore the building’s exterior but the interior still needs a major investment to convert it into a new use. Ferries to Governors Island also leave from the building.

For many years, Burden has been a strong advocate for creating a continuous esplanade around Manhattan and said the ramp was an important piece to the goal. She said the Maritime Building ramp would be considerably less than $50 million, although precise figures have not been worked out.

Vishaan Chakrabarti, Manhattan office director of City Planning, said the city is still talking with the L.M.D.C. about whether the state-city agency is willing to cover the costs of the ramp.

Like Burden, Chakrabarti said he is confident a large amount of L.M.D.C. money is coming soon for the first phase of the project. “We are optimistic about that,” he told board members. “As we go into the more ambitious schemes, there is no identifiable funding.”

The city hopes to build a ramp in this area near the Battery Maritime Building so pedestrians and cyclists near Battery Park can get to the East River esplanade easily. Some residents fear the costs may be too high for a short term project and should be put on the backburner in favor of other park improvements.

That’s why the residential buildings would be needed, he added. The city expects to issue long-term ground leases to developers, similar to the way Battery Park City was constructed. For 30 years, Downtown’s East River waterfront was zoned to be land-filled and create an east side version of B.P.C., but the plan never got close to being approved by the Army Corps and the zoning was changed in the 1990s.

Carl Weisbrod, president of the Downtown Alliance and a L.M.D.C. board member, said he is happy to see the movement to improve the waterfront, but he has reservations about the tower idea.

The first phase would require moving the tour buses and cars that currently park under the F.D.R. Moving the parking lot has long been a goal of C.B. 1, the city and others, but there is still no alternative site.

If the parking lot is moved, it would set up pavilion space for retail near well-traveled streets like Wall and Fulton, and opportunities to bring in cultural and community spaces near other streets, Chakrabarti said.

Goldstein wanted to know what was in the works for the adjacent areas. The L.M.D.C. has been looking to make improvements along Fulton St., but has not yet presented its ideas to the community board and the next use for the Fulton Fish Market buildings remains up in the air.

City officials said a children’s play area is planned for Burling Slip as part of the Fulton St. plan. General Growth Properties is in the process of taking over control of the Seaport mall as part of its recently-announced purchase of the Rouse Corp., said Bob Balder, who works in the mayor’s office. Once the sale of Rouse is complete, General Growth will own Rouse’s right of first refusal to redevelop two of the market buildings. Balder said this provision in the city’s mall lease wouldn’t take effect until the market relocates to the Bronx early next year.

Davies said, “when the Fulton Fish Market leaves, [Peck Slip] becomes a great New York square.”

Community Board 1 is planning to schedule a meeting to discuss the plans further and City Planning officials are expected to present the plan to Community Board 3 on Oct. 13 at 6:30 p.m., 466 Grand St.



Wouldn't it be great (except without the 400' height limit) to have each of the 7 towers designed by some renowned architect...While I'm daydreaming, then add the park, a revised Guggenheim, and 80 South Street and the giant ferris wheel and cirque du soleil...:::slaps myself:::

[krulltime]

Hmmm... Seems like in these new renderings the tower has been scale down... It looks different too.


http://www.pbase.com/image/79231030.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/79231070.jpg http://www.pbase.com/image/79231048.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/79231033.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/79231037.jpg


DOWNTOWN TOWER New York, New York


The Downtown Tower is a proposal for a commercial, residential and hotel development in Lower Manhattan. Located near the South Street Seaport along the East River, RMA's design provides an elegant form that will create a sophisticated new presence on the skyline.

All frontages are permeated; all views embraced. The design is a simple, elegant geometry that adherences to a dominant vertical line, continuous for the height of the building. As the sun moves and the light changes through the day, this strong vertical contrasts and compliments the horizontal plane of the East River.

The design makes use of the latest technologies in subtly changing levels of transparency in glazing in combination with projecting terraces to uniquely combine management of solar gain and a provocative building form. The simple geometry maximizes the floor plate within the zoning constraints and established setbacks. The ground plane setback preserves street space for public programs, while increasing building efficiency and the number of premium units high in the building. The building's sculptural form has a dynamic character that has prominence from every viewpoint and will be a distinct addition to the Financial District.


http://www.rogersmarvel.com/DowntownTower.html

[Stern]

I really hate the southern facing concrete wall.

[macreator]

I really hate the southern facing concrete wall.

Are we sure it is concrete? I thought it was glass.

[stache]

Reminds me of the U.N. bldg. -

[londonlawyer]

What a waste of a prime waterfront location! Is Macklowe developing it?

[Stern]

Are we sure it is concrete? I thought it was glass.

I'm not sure but it sure looks like concrete.

[TREPYE]

http://www.pbase.com/image/79231030.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/79231070.jpg http://www.pbase.com/image/79231048.jpg



The building's sculptural form has a dynamic character that has prominence from every viewpoint and will be a distinct addition to the Financial District.
http://www.rogersmarvel.com/DowntownTower.html

Sculptural??????????:confused: How about abhorrently rectangular, I think that is a more appropriate description.

[Scraperfannyc]

Making buildings shorter and uglier still tends to be the trend these days. Yuck!

[antinimby]

Are we sure it is concrete? I thought it was glass.The ground floor is not entirely glass all around.

The "rear" portion does seem to have some blank wall that are more apparent in these renderings:

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1416/161maidenlnll9.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/79231033.jpg

[macreator]

What an awful looking pavilion rear area. It's like they tried to make it detestable.

[pianoman11686]

I'm not sure but it sure looks like concrete.

Look closely at the first rendering that krulltime posted. You can pretty clearly pick out the location of the floor plates. And there also seems to be a contrast in the color/transparency of the glass about 1/3 of the way across the southern-facing facade.

I think this one's all glass, but it's still a bore.

[professionalx]

Plywood has gone up around the parking lot at this site - looks like demolition & excavation will be starting shortly.

[lofter1]

DOB shows a DEMO Application for 161 Maiden Lane was Processed (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobDetailsServlet?requestid=2&allisn=0001399123&allboroughname=&allnumbhous=&allstrt=) on 7.18.07. A DEMO Application for 151 Maiden Lane (the lot next door) was also Processed (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobDetailsServlet?requestid=7&allisn=0001399126&allboroughname=&allnumbhous=&allstrt=) on 7.18.07.

Looking at all the Applications no NEW BUILDING Application has yet been filed for either 151 or 161 Maiden Lane.

I took a walk around the area today and took some pics. The wooden gateway to the main entrance along MaidenLane was open and I could see into thelobby. Propped up against the wall in the lobby was a large rendering for a building. It was labeled 151-161 Maiden Lane / Tower + Planes.

Shooting through the window this was the best picture I could get (larger image attached) ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Financial%20District/161%20Maiden%20Lane/161Maiden_Render_01d2_800.jpg

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[lofter1]

Oops ...

This one should be a larger image ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Financial%20District/161%20Maiden%20Lane/161Maiden_Render_01d4_800.jpg

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[lofter1]

Here's some other shots of the site today ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Financial%20District/161%20Maiden%20Lane/161Maiden_02f.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Financial%20District/161%20Maiden%20Lane/161Maiden_02e.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Financial%20District/161%20Maiden%20Lane/161Maiden_02p.jpg

This site is across Maiden Lane from Continental Center (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=continentalcenter-newyorkcity-ny-usa) (160 Maiden Lane).

That one is 554' / 41-stories. It was built in 1983 by Swanke Hayden Connell Architects:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Financial%20District/161%20Maiden%20Lane/161Maiden_02o.jpg

The new building will rise in the section of sky at the left ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Financial%20District/161%20Maiden%20Lane/161Maiden_02v.jpg

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[lofter1]

Meanwhile next door at 80 South Street it lloks like the only thing that's changed is that SCIAME has put their name on top of the building ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Financial%20District/80South_01a.jpg

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[londonlawyer]

Oops ...

This one should be a larger image ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Financial%20District/161%20Maiden%20Lane/161Maiden_Render_01d4_800.jpg

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You've been getting around town quite a bit!

I like this tower better than the one on Rogers Marvel's website.

[lofter1]

I love walking around NYC ...

And good for the heart ;)

I like this one better, too.

[krulltime]

Now that looks tall and exciting!

[stache]

It reminds me of the Penn station building -

[lofter1]

CITY PLANNING COMMISSION

R (http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/luproc/reviewsession.pdf)EVIEW SESSION (http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/luproc/reviewsession.pdf) (pdf)

October 1, 2007 @ 1:00 P.M.


Manhattan Non-ULURP


161 Maiden Lane; certification pursuant to Section 91-65 for the transfer of development rights in the Special Lower Manhattan District. (M1)

30 Fletcher Street; certification pursuant to Section 91-65 for the transfer of development rights in the Special Lower Manhattan District. (M1)

[londonlawyer]

Rogers Marvel's lame box no longer appears on its website, so hopefully, it will not be built here.

[lofter1]

Seems Demo here started before Demo Permit was issued -- Stop Work Order (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/ComplaintsByAddressServlet?requestid=4&allbin=1001138&fillerdata=A) issued in September ...

Demo Permit (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobDetailsServlet?requestid=5&allisn=0001399123&allboroughname=&allnumbhous=&allstrt=) not issued until 10.12.07

[DarrylStrawberry]

I think the demolition is done. The blue plywood fence is up. I wonder when the crane will show...

[philvia]

any updates?

[Derek2k3]

There are renderings of that version posted by Lofter on the Costas Kondylis website. Unfortunately the least exciting option was settled on.