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londonlawyer
January 10th, 2008, 09:09 AM
My point was that in terms of these skyscrapers, Chicago may indeed have something to prove on the WORLD stage....
Buildings alone don't make a city a world city. Neither Dubai, HK, nor Shanghai are in the league of NY and London, and they probably never will be despite the fact that they're building scores of 100+ story towers.
Horace718
January 10th, 2008, 03:48 PM
Buildings alone don't make a city a world city. Neither Dubai, HK, nor Shanghai are in the league of NY and London, and they probably never will be despite the fact that they're building scores of 100+ story towers.
that is true, but it doesn't hurt.
londonlawyer
January 10th, 2008, 04:02 PM
I respectfully disagree.
NY and London are:
1. The world's two greatest financial centers;
2. along with Paris, the world's greatest cultural centers;
3. along with L.A., the world's greatest media centers;
4. the world's greatest auction centers (Christies' and Sotheby's art and antique sales focus on NY and London).
5. The U.N. gives NY a unique role in international affairs.
Lastly, NY's geography has established it, over the course of 400 years, as the Americas' gateway to the world.
Chicago, like other nice second-tier cities (e.g., Frankfurt, HK, Toronto, etc), will never rise to the level of NY regardless of what it builds.
Jeffreyny
January 11th, 2008, 12:44 AM
I apologize for the tone of some of my posts the other night. Had been out for a late night on the town. If you think NYC is a 24 hour city, you've never been to Tokyo Hong Kong or Seoul....trust me.
As I stated numerous times, I love New York. And I do hope that some of the developments in Chicago can help in some little way to defeat the forces of NIMBYism in New York.
Maybe if Jersey City keeps building up, that can help as well. Wonder what New York would do if Jersey built something taller.
And my prediction is that New York will in the future increasingly compare itself to Chicago. Call it a hunch.....
New York (other than on this thread) doesn't compare itself to Chicago. It's not a topic of discussion. The only thing I find comparable between New York and Chicago are the fact that the two cities have the greatest amount of skyscapers in this country.
Beyond that comparing New York and Chicago is like comparing Chicago and Kansas City..
...and honestly this post isn't meant to be a dig. It's just the way I see it.
londonlawyer
January 11th, 2008, 12:52 AM
You're precisely correct, Jeffrey.
Scraperfannyc
January 11th, 2008, 02:36 AM
I respectfully disagree.
NY and London are:
1. The world's two greatest financial centers;
2. along with Paris, the world's greatest cultural centers;
3. along with L.A., the world's greatest media centers;
4. the world's greatest auction centers (Christies' and Sotheby's art and antique sales focus on NY and London).
5. The U.N. gives NY a unique role in international affairs.
Lastly, NY's geography has established it, over the course of 400 years, as the Americas' gateway to the world.
Chicago, like other nice second-tier cities (e.g., Frankfurt, HK, Toronto, etc), will never rise to the level of NY regardless of what it builds.
If you are into architecture and skyscrapers, then financial centers, media centers, international centers, etc. don't do squat if they don't help to build. Meanwhile, if NYC and London are so much better then everyone else, then it makes it's more dissappointing that they aint buildin up to their full potential. London has historically been a low lying city, but NYC has historically been the skyscraper capital of the world and the US. However, Chicago is making big strides these days, and hence this thread is to share information about the two skyscraper leaders of the US.
Stern
January 12th, 2008, 04:09 AM
Toronto and Melbourne.
ZippyTheChimp
January 12th, 2008, 12:49 PM
Had been out for a late night on the town.Where did you go? Was a fake ID required?
Chiboy
January 12th, 2008, 01:34 PM
Get your little (or big?) ass off the island and come and visit me in Asia. I'll show you a real 24 hour city. No ID required.
ORRRRR...you can continue to live on an island of self-segregated delusion.......
seriously, name your destination, Tokyo, Osaka, Seoul, Shanghai, Beijing, Hong Kong...
All of them are denser, more vibrant, and more 24-hour oriented than either NY or Chicago.
You all crack me up. Because I chose to add the pronoun boy to Chi...you actually think I am under age?? I am flattered.
Again, you all need to get off more often.....the island that is.
ZippyTheChimp
January 12th, 2008, 02:12 PM
I knew from post #1 that you're in Seoul. Just needed a reason to remove a troll from the forum.
If you're really an adult, well, that's pathetic.
This thread will be closed until it's cleaned up.
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