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NYCDOC
December 9th, 2006, 08:40 PM
Thought this was kind of interesting . . . different view than we got from Borat!

From BBC

Kazakhstan has unveiled a new architectural project for its capital Astana - a giant transparent tent that will contain an indoor city.

The 150m-high (500ft) dome, designed by UK architect Norman Foster, will be built in just over a year.
The tent is being made from special material that absorbs sunlight to create the effect of summer inside.
Astana lies in the very heart of Central Asian steppe. Temperatures there often drop to -30C in the winter.
'Difficult project'
The final shape of the world's biggest tent was revealed in a 3D model by Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42334000/jpg/_42334921_inside203.jpg Astana could have its own beach all year round


Underneath, in an area larger than 10 football stadiums, will be a city with squares and cobbled streets, canals, shopping centres and golf courses.
The idea is to recreate summer, so that when the outside temperature is -30C, the residents of the Kazakh capital can play outdoor tennis, take boat rides or sip coffee on the pavement cafes.
Called Khan Shatyry, the project is designed by Lord Foster, who has recently built a giant glass pyramid in Astana.
"Nothing of the sort has been done before, and from the engineering point of view it's an extremely difficult project," says Fettah Tamince, the head of Turkey's development company Sembol that is building the tent.
Mr Tamince is nevertheless confident the company can complete the construction in just 12 months.
'Huge risk'
It is a hugely ambitious undertaking, but so is Astana itself.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42334000/gif/_42334957_kaz_astana_map203.gif

It was just over 10 years ago that President Nazarbayev decided to move the capital from Almaty to the very heart of Kazakhstan.
Since then the government says it has spent $15bn (£7.7bn) on construction, although some believe the figure is actually much higher.
For this oil rich state, which is an increasingly important global energy player, cash is not a problem.
Still, Mr Nazarbayev recently told the BBC that moving the capital was the riskiest step he had ever taken, and that Astana was one of his biggest achievements.
"It was a huge risk, and I took it intuitively," Mr Nazarbayev said.
"I put everything at stake, including my career and my name. I knew if I had failed it would be a fatal failure, but the success would also be the real success."
At the time, the president added, no-one seemed to believe that he would be able to create a real city in the steppe.
But the Astana skyline still looks more surreal than real - with its marble palaces, shining skyscrapers, metal structures and abstract statues, all surrounded by vast, snow covered emptiness. Soon, rising above it all, will be the illuminated glass dome of the Khan Shatyry - an appropriate addition, it seems, to Astana's oil-money fuelled architectural extravaganza.

lofter1
December 9th, 2006, 11:18 PM
Foster's previous project in Atsana: Foster's Pyramid of Peace in Kazakhstan (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5845&highlight=kazakhstan)

Foster's new Project in Atsana: http://www.khanshatyry.com/

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Asia/Atsana_FosterTent_01a.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Asia/Atsana_FosterTent_01c.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Asia/Atsana_FosterTent_01b.jpg

Jake
December 10th, 2006, 12:16 AM
"Welcome to the most privaleged address in Astana."

lol, I'm sorry but that gave me a good laugh, be afraid Park Ave, be very afraid.

ablarc
December 10th, 2006, 01:30 AM
Mall of America.

Similar climate, similar concept.

Area larger than 10 football stadiums? Maybe not.

Fabrizio
December 10th, 2006, 07:04 AM
"experience shopping at a yard of fashionable butiques"

I see Gucci knock-offs spread out on blankets.

Punzie
December 10th, 2006, 10:59 AM
What to do about that transparent dome?:eek:


Earthquake Hits Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan (7/06):

http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2006/7/a8080606-5d51-4f96-b4c7-6e10aab890a2.html


Kazakhstan: Interview on Almaty earthquake preparedness (2004):

http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/KHII-67934D?OpenDocument


13,000 people left homeless as result of earthquake in Kazakhstan:

http://newsfromrussia.com/accidents/2003/05/26/47445.html



http://www.wild-natures.com/picture/map_kazakhstan_relief.png

(Almaty is near the southeast corner.)

lofter1
December 10th, 2006, 11:36 AM
Almaty is in a very rugged mountainous region prone to earthquakes.

That is one of the reasons that the capital of Kazakhstan was moved to Atsana, which lies in a mid-elevation steppe in the center of the country.

Punzie
December 11th, 2006, 10:42 AM
Almaty is in a very rugged mountainous region prone to earthquakes.

That is one of the reasons that the capital of Kazakhstan was moved to Atsana, which lies in a mid-elevation steppe in the center of the country.

So THAT was the meaning of those pretty colors on my relief map.;)

It's easy to forget that the "250 Km" on the map scale is "150 miles." Suddenly Astana doesn't seem so far from Almety!

Lofter, you are saying that it is highly unlikely that:

- Astana will have an earthquake, or

- towns between Astana and Almety will have an earthquake, or

- if Almety has an earthquake, it will be strong enough to affect Astana.

Ergo, the transparent dome is a reasonable piece of architecture in Astana.

I don't have enough evidence to refute this; but having lived in California for 3 years, which included the World Series Earthquake of '89... you know the rest.

lofter1
December 11th, 2006, 08:41 PM
I'm a native Californian myself :cool: ...

And although I'm not a geologist -- or a seismologist -- it could be similar situation where Astana is in a more stable seismic area and the difference between Almaty <> Astana is comparable to the earthquake-prone coastal / mountainous areas in California as opposed to possibly less prone areas in the Central Valley (say Bakersfield or Stockton).

Punzie
January 22nd, 2007, 01:43 AM
Your response was a bit vague. I waited for you to polish it up because I have fathomed that you are a perfectionist, but you have not come back here to do so.:p

I repeat:



Lofter, you are saying that it is highly unlikely that:

- Astana will have an earthquake, or

- towns between Astana and Almety will have an earthquake, or

- if Almety has an earthquake, it will be strong enough to affect Astana.

Ergo, the transparent dome is a reasonable piece of architecture in Astana.


What say you, the perfectionist?

What say the rest of WNY?

Fabrizio
January 22nd, 2007, 04:27 AM
ANOTHER thread about Astana and Almety? Cant this board move on?

Punzie
January 22nd, 2007, 04:35 AM
ANOTHER thread about Astana and Almety? Cant this board move on?

It's not as simple as that. If Astana happens to be at risk for a sizeable earthquake, then the giant tent is a terrible idea.

Viktorkrum77
February 13th, 2007, 06:38 PM
I love Kazakhstan, I didn't buy their flag for no reason:D. I will have to travel there when they build it.

homeandaway
March 25th, 2007, 02:39 PM
Kakhastan...however you spell it is very boring!, no wonder it is the largest land-locked country in the world!.
~Alex~