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concernedcitizen21
January 8th, 2007, 11:37 PM
Hello everyone. Here is a local issue that is causing a stir over on YouTube that I'd like to share with the rest of NYC.

As you probably know, the NYC DOS has a great program that eliminates tons of refuse that would otherwise end-up in landfills. This past November, many NYC residents had their raked and bagged leaves collected for compost. Two dates were scheduled for Staten Island, 11/11 and 11/25. The City Council even provided 5 paper bags per household as a primer for the new laws of 2007.
All went well with the collection on 11/11.
The problem arose with the 11/25 collection.
At the height of the Fall season, many bags are quickly piled-up for two weeks awaiting this collection - which never came for a large section of my neighborhood.

I was made aware of an earlier problem by an article published on 11/17 by the SI Advance:

Raking efforts are thrown in the trash
Sanitation workers told to mix bagged leaves with regular garbage
http://www.silive.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news/1163770232158840.xml&coll=1

So, On Monday, 11/27, I placed a call to 311 explaining the situation. I was read a memo issued by the DOS stating that the collection process can take place anytime during the following week.
Sure enough, some web research reveals that that is indeed the truth.
Here's an excerpt from a DOS website:
Note: Leaf pickup may take place as early as the next morning, so it is important to place material at the curb on the designated Saturday night. If your leaves are not picked up by the next day, they will be collected later in the week. If leaves are not picked up by Thursday, then call 311 to report a missed collection.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nycwasteless/html/recycling/fall2006compost.shtml#bronx

My fears were subdued until Wednesday, 11/29 - our regularly scheduled day for household collection.
After hearing the approaching truck, I rushed to the window to witness everything (including the leaves) being thrown into the same truck.
Since I live on a two-way street, and the truck collects one side at a time, I figured that I still had some time to stop the situation with another call to 311.
This time, I was forwarded to a "sanitation specialist". After explaining the occurring problem, the person seemed very willing to help. But, I needed to provide him with one piece of information - a truck number.
As I awaited the truck to make the return trip up the block, I grabbed my video camera and recorded this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGBi5gaiYP4

Instead of making another call to 311, I wrote an email to Councilman James Oddo and provided the link to my video.
The next day I received a reply from him with an assurance that the matter would be investigated.
In the meantime, several insulting comments were posted for the video which prompted me to carry-over the discussion to here.

Please feel free to add your opinions here.

concernedcitizen21
January 8th, 2007, 11:49 PM
BMorgan274427 (http://www.youtube.com/user/BMorgan274427):
Well smart guy, since you don't know much I'll explain... Since you made this video on the 29th of November (get a life sitting home all day with a camera by the way) and the 2 leaf pickups in Staten Island were made for the 12th and 26th of November means that unless they pick them up with the regular garbage, your leaves wouldnt be picked up because there would be no more exclusively leaves trucks....

kermytube (http://www.youtube.com/user/kermytube):
Hey Staten Island dude, you're a real ****in idiot!! These guys weren't doing anything wrong, they were following orders. You have 2 pickup dates in Staten Island for leaves, 12th and 26th as the last person mentioned and u recorded these guys on the 29th so figure it out einstein. Hey, I have a camcorder so how bout we record myself, sticking my foot up your ass...Interested? Loser!!!

dreadtodred (http://www.youtube.com/user/dreadtodred):
concerned citizen?huh I bet if he/she saw a robbery in progress he/she probably wouldnt do any thing ,but a hard working san man job they scrutinize,get a lfe


NYCDAN1979 (http://www.youtube.com/user/NYCDAN1979):
Concerned citzen...what a joke. If you were so concerned why didnt you just yell down and ask them why they were mixing the leaves and the garbage? You arent a concerned citizen, you are a disgruntled person with no life. You think you are some sort of super under cover agent filming the bad guys and their wrong doings. I bet you couldnt wait to use the tape to get the guys suspened or fired.

So its not the program or the sanitation department that failed my friend, it is you. Next time, concerned citizen, put your leaves out when they are supposed to go out if you want them put in leaf only trucks.


mellie225 (http://www.youtube.com/user/mellie225):
Are you truly this pathetic that you sat home taping the Sanitation Department doing their job? These people work very hard and unfortunately sir, it is obnoxious people like who who should be better spending their time doing other things than scrutinizing those who are trying to make a living. First, I will say Get a Job and secondly GET A LIFE!

kermytube (http://www.youtube.com/user/kermytube):
Hey "Concerned Citizen" u still don't get it. I explained it once before when i wrote u directly but apparently it didn't register so let me try this again but with more detail. This department isn't perfect as I'm sure you're not and sometimes things unforeseen can arise i.e. equiptment breaking down, not enough man power due to employee sickness etc etc etc. Even if it were from supervisor failure, doesn't give you the right to videotape 2 innocent men that are just following orders.

You couldv'e gotten them in serious trouble "Just Because" u made it seem that they were doing something wrong when in turn they weren't. They couldv'e been suspended without pay until the investigation of this "Alleged" wrongdoing was completed and they "of Course" wouldv'e been cleared at the end but do u see everyone's anger and frustration with a person such as yourself?

Just imagine that everytime u were not so perfect in your lifetime, thier was someone there to record and post it to a website for all to see, would u like that? If u were really concerned, u would have picked up the phone and complained to 311 or writing the department itself and all your questions would have been answered. Now, do u still not get it?

PM from:DSNYSANMAN:
Get the information correct as to when the collection dates were before going on YouTube and sounding like a total ass. LOL, I guess you failed the test!!! LOL get a ****ing life scum bag.. LMAOOOOOOO.

tmg
January 9th, 2007, 01:48 AM
Very interesting. Thank you for posting this here.