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sean
January 10th, 2007, 01:29 AM
I searched, but there was no thread :confused: How did we miss this topic.

Anyways, taking a new girl out on Friday... let's hear it

NoyokA
January 10th, 2007, 12:12 PM
I always like to make a good first impression. I'll usually take a girl out to Sushi and then to a nice club. I usually pick La Caverna because the prices arent too high, there's nice sofas, and the music isn't soo loud that you can't talk. Another good place to take a date would be an hour or two at duet 35 where you can rent rooms for karaoke.

chris
January 10th, 2007, 12:30 PM
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Have options in your back pocket. If you get somewhere and the scene is dead, or you can tell she's not having a good time, have several back-up plans.

Check movie listings, live music, gallery openings, off Broadway plays. New York has TONS of stuff going on all the time- know what they are (a new fashion beautique opening in SoHo, a book signing party at an independent book store, an indy movie premier, a record release party, etc.). Have a list of things that you know are going on that night, where and when they are. Keep it in your back-pocket, just-in-case.

Take her out to dinner. Take charge, tell her what you have planned. Then, if she doesn't seem into it, throw out some options.

Check:
http://nyc.flavorpill.net/


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Punzie
January 10th, 2007, 05:42 PM
I like this topic. Some girls are going to be very happy because of it.

Sean, you didn't say if you owned a car or had use of a car. If you do, use it! This time of year (cold weather), "door-to-door" with a car is premium. This time of year most girls would rather be in a car and go to a slightly less interesting place, if a tradeoff absolutely has to be made.

Schadenfrau
January 10th, 2007, 06:26 PM
I'll give the thumbs down on the car idea, because if I'm going on a first date, I hope to God that some sort of liquor is going to be involved. Seriously, nothing beats some good, old-fashioned dinner and drinks. Save the paintball and performance art for later, and take a cab.

ablarc
January 10th, 2007, 08:31 PM
This time of year (cold weather), "door-to-door" with a car is premium. This time of year most girls would rather be in a car and go to a slightly less interesting place, if a tradeoff absolutely has to be made.
You can do door-to-door only if by miracle you find a parking space right where you're going. Fat chance.

Gotta forgive Punzi; she's from the 'burbs.

Take cabs; you'll even save money.

imnicotine
January 10th, 2007, 10:53 PM
well im a girl and i can tell u that the type of date def has to depend on what type of girl she is. So what kind of girl is she? Athletic, outgoing, stuck up?

ThisIsntMyRealName
January 10th, 2007, 11:59 PM
Ask her if she would like to go back to your apartment immediately, or in about 45 minutes into the date, otherwise, just move on to the next one. This is also money saving.


I searched, but there was no thread :confused: How did we miss this topic.

Anyways, taking a new girl out on Friday... let's hear it

Punzie
January 11th, 2007, 03:52 AM
You can do door-to-door only if by miracle you find a parking space right where you're going. Fat chance.

This is true if Sean lives in Manhattan. But a good percentage of people from the outter boroughs and beyond own cars or have access to cars. If Sean does, he should use it and take the girl to a restaurant that has parking.


Gotta forgive Punzi; she's from the 'burbs.

Gotta forgive Ablarc; he doesn't know how many years I lived in NYC until I moved to the 'burbs.

ablarc
January 11th, 2007, 07:38 AM
take the girl to a restaurant that has parking.
That sure limits your options.

And anyway, can't you do that anywhere --like for example in the suburbs?

How will you experience the city?

Drive in, park, drive out: you can do that in Memphis.

Heck, why even bother coming to the city? You can just go out to a restaurant in the suburbs. The experence will be similar, and the parking will be free. :p

shocka
January 11th, 2007, 03:05 PM
Call me conventional but i usually do Dinner, Drinkings Dancing, but i like a women who loves to dance and enjoys a nice meal.

as for the car deal I think if you afford to pay for the parking in a lot then do it, otherwise looking for parking can kill the mood. But as Shad said.. if you are planning on drinking please just take a cab.

ablarc: I dont want to start an argument but when was the last time you took a women out in the burbs vs. manhattan, I have done both on many occations, it is always better to go out in manhattan even witih a car, alot more options and better back up plans.

sean
January 11th, 2007, 06:32 PM
Well, yes, I have a car... it takes me everywhere I go unless there's heavy drinking involved.

But this thread is not about me! Its about all those young lovers out there.

ablarc
January 11th, 2007, 06:46 PM
I dont want to start an argument but when was the last time you took a women out in the burbs vs. manhattan, I have done both on many occations, it is always better to go out in manhattan even witih a car, alot more options and better back up plans.
Can't start an argument with me, coz I agree with you.

Best of all: going out in Manhattan without a car. :p

sean
January 11th, 2007, 09:46 PM
Oh, by the way... I can't dance. I don't really care to learn how, either (at this time) :p

shocka
January 11th, 2007, 11:18 PM
Well here are some nice Bars i like to visit when trying to sit down and get to know someone. These places tend to have a nicer atmosphere and not as loud music.

Rainbow Room
In the Summer, I like the bar at Rock
Flatiron Lounge
Astoria Beer Gardens (she loved it!)

I would like to hear of other ideas people have done aside from the typical dinner drinks movie ideas.

Schadenfrau
January 11th, 2007, 11:21 PM
I don't think the dancing thing is really important. Do people really do that on dates on the city? I can't imagine that hitting Bungalow 8 or something is really going to ramp up the romance factor of the evening.

ablarc
January 11th, 2007, 11:24 PM
I don't think the dancing thing is really important. Do people really do that on dates on the city?
Times sure have changed.

lofter1
January 11th, 2007, 11:34 PM
You bet -- dancing used to be the thing that got it all going ...

Punzie
January 12th, 2007, 04:09 AM
This time of year, men have to watch out for the Valentines Day woman. (I'm not abbreviating that.) It's the woman who is so desperate to have a date, complete with flowers and chocolates, on Valentines Day that she will go out with any men -- even ones she wouldn't look at other times of the year -- from now until that day.

If you think this is a small minority of women, think again. Madison Avenue et al has programmed a sizeable percentage of women to believe that they are inadequate, or just plain losers, if they don't have a date, flowers and chocolates on that day.


For the record, I don't feel as if I'm betraying the female sex; on the contrary, I am helping them.

FrankHegly
January 12th, 2007, 07:48 AM
I've listed 6 ideas below, I guess it depends on the type of girl/age/weather

Option 1
I'm kind of bias but Ice Skating @ the Rockefeller Centre?? Ice skating is always a good 'ice breaker' pardon the pun. Even if you fall it just makes you look fun.

Then you could go for drinks in the Rainbow Room....

I thinks it's a good idea to do an activity like this prior to drinks because if conversation is hard you can revert back to either of your performances on the rink, i.e. I am so bad, you were amazing.. etc

Option 2
Eat somewhere different. Why not try a cuisine that seems really unusual that she has never tried before. Take her to a Nepalesse if she's not had one, or some cool Fusion Restraunt. Also try places where the meal is as an experience- like in a Japanese restraunt as the chef's table.

This could go either way. Either you pick a bad restraunt and look stupid... or you could open her eye's to a new type of cuisine...which would make you seem fun and exciting by introducing her to new things.

Option 3
I would recomend this if you don't know her very well and want to come off looking strong but don't really know what food she likes..plus don't want to ask so as not to seem incapable of booking a suitable restraunt.

Make a reservation at like 30 different top restraunts all different types of food etc.

Then just ask her where she wants to go or what kind of food she fancies...
if she says "I fancy British cuisine" (Obviously a good choice :D ) then you could say, I figured you would say that so I booked for Gordon Ramsey's @ 8 just in case...making you seem like you were very intuitive as to want she wants, whilst also seeming open to pleasing her rather than just going where you had managd to get a table.

Alternativley you could not say anything and turn up at a posh restraunt...seeming like you booked last minute and you are soo important that they still fit you in.

Option 4

Although you live in/near NY and might see loads of tourist attractions every day in passing...have you been on them all??

I would say that 99.9% of Londoners have never been on the London Eye, been to the Tower of London or the National Portrait Gallery or even taken a photo of themselves stood in front of Big Ben. Anyway the point I am making is that you often live next to things but never visit them. So going to them can acctually make a good date... its like being a tourist without the getting lost.

This is the kind of thing I did with my fiancÚ when we first met ... and we had a great time.

Option 5
Oxygen bar..if you have one.

It's where all the air is 100% oxygen... usually in a vault type room below ground. When you couple these together it is meant to give the same sensation that cavers get. This would be really relaxed for drinks and talking, whilst also being very different.

Option 6
I went to the original Blind restraunt in Switzerland a few months ago and it was great.... aparently one has opened in New York.

A blind restraunt has no light whatsoever. Your server is normally blind and you basically cannot see your food. Its really fun and is meant to make the food taste better.

The good thing here is that you can just concentrate on talking.. a good option I think.

ThisIsntMyRealName
January 12th, 2007, 12:40 PM
Sean, I have a legitimate question for you about your date. What type of date is this? Depending on how you know her, I would recommend different things.

How did you meet her?

Through friends and you don't know her
Through friends and you already know her
Randomly in some place like a club, bar, or airport
Through the Internet, dating service
At work
A friend or an ex

And what are your goals?

Hookup
Short-term
Long-term/marriage, etc.


I searched, but there was no thread :confused: How did we miss this topic.

Anyways, taking a new girl out on Friday... let's hear it

shocka
January 12th, 2007, 04:44 PM
Frank I love Option 3... it goes along with a dating tip given to me in class by a professor.

I will try to put it in the words of the excentric 60+ yr old professor

"While you are out on the town courting a fine young lady, if you are not a wine aficionado, the best thing to do is open your wine list, glance at the 2nd cheapest wine on the list and commit it to memory. Look over at your date and say they do not have any wine that I like. Once the waiter comes ask if they have a bottle of the wine you have memorized. This was my secret to success back in my dating days."

Schadenfrau
January 12th, 2007, 04:47 PM
Ah, going for the second cheapest wine is too obvious. Everyone knows that trick, so either cheap out or pay up.

shocka
January 12th, 2007, 06:14 PM
Ah, going for the second cheapest wine is too obvious. Everyone knows that trick, so either cheap out or pay up.

Or take a wine tasting and you will learn how to pick a good cheap wine from a list.

sean
January 12th, 2007, 07:24 PM
Sean, I have a legitimate question for you about your date. What type of date is this? Depending on how you know her, I would recommend different things.

How did you meet her?

Through friends and you don't know her
Through friends and you already know her
Randomly in some place like a club, bar, or airport
Through the Internet, dating service
At work
A friend or an ex

And what are your goals?

Hookup
Short-term
Long-term/marriage, etc.

I met her through friends. Short term I guess? I dunno, I'm just having fun. But I'd like this thread to apply to everyone looking for things to do/places to go.

I like all the places you guys mention. I like FrankHegly's Oxygen Bar and the Blind restaurant. Those sound fun.

lorcar
January 12th, 2007, 07:49 PM
just a quick question:
does the guy in NY ALWAYS pay for the girl on the date?

Punzie
January 12th, 2007, 07:52 PM
Depends on the girl... and the guy.;)

Schadenfrau
January 12th, 2007, 09:03 PM
You don't need a wine tasting class to know from good, cheap wine. Just do some research, buy a few bottles, and go at it. Hell, there's a first date for you.

As for the payment question: the person who asked the other out on the date should always offer to pick up the check. The response that person gets should be pretty telling. Back in my dating days, I would always offer half, and if refused, would pick up the tab for something else later. Be very wary of a woman who never offers to pay for something.

NoyokA
January 13th, 2007, 02:10 AM
You don't need a wine tasting class to know from good, cheap wine. Just do some research, buy a few bottles, and go at it. Hell, there's a first date for you.

As for the payment question: the person who asked the other out on the date should always offer to pick up the check. The response that person gets should be pretty telling. Back in my dating days, I would always offer half, and if refused, would pick up the tab for something else later. Be very wary of a woman who never offers to pay for something.

I always offer to pay. I have broken up with girls though in the past because I always payed and they never offered. A relationship is a two-way street. Even though I was making good money at the time, it was the principle of the matter.

Punzie
January 13th, 2007, 08:34 AM
I always offer to pay. I have broken up with girls though in the past because I always payed and they never offered.

I assume that these girls also never:

- Made you a substantial dinner, lunch or breakfast. Especially dinner.

- Packed picnic lunches/beverages for the both of you.

- Contributed free passes to movies, museums, etc. to the date.

- Got you tickets to something that you (not necessarily she) wanted to see/participate in.

- Bought you a present (not birthday, holiday, or Valentines) -- just because you kept on eyeing it in store windows.

- Carried a "cute" baggie of quarters for any time quarters are useful.

- Spent time and effort providing (non-bedroom, lol) services for you. Random examples: Editing your thesis; going on a pesky, time-consuming errand for you; finding you a good accountant...


So many girls are urged by older generations to never pay for anything on a date. Unfortunately, many elders forget to tell the very same girls that they must pay for some things in a roundabout way. (See list above.) Otherwise, the guy will begin to believe (correctly or not) that the girl is self-centered and that he's being used. Girls, are you listening?:)

ZippyTheChimp
January 13th, 2007, 10:33 AM
Rapunzel, it seems like that's moving from a date toward a relationship.

Punzie
January 13th, 2007, 11:24 AM
I guess because Stern began talking a little about relationships, I did too. But some of the possibities I mentioned for women who won't pay on dates -- like cooking a meal or bringing along admissions passes -- can be done early in the dating.

Do you want this thread to be specifically about men taking women out on the first few dates? I honestly wouldn't mind. I would stop writing about women's dating issues, save them for some future thread.

NoyokA
January 14th, 2007, 03:05 PM
I assume that these girls also never:

- Made you a substantial dinner, lunch or breakfast. Especially dinner.

- Packed picnic lunches/beverages for the both of you.

- Contributed free passes to movies, museums, etc. to the date.

- Got you tickets to something that you (not necessarily she) wanted to see/participate in.

- Bought you a present (not birthday, holiday, or Valentines) -- just because you kept on eyeing it in store windows.

- Carried a "cute" baggie of quarters for any time quarters are useful.

- Spent time and effort providing (non-bedroom, lol) services for you. Random examples: Editing your thesis; going on a pesky, time-consuming errand for you; finding you a good accountant...


So many girls are urged by older generations to never pay for anything on a date. Unfortunately, many elders forget to tell the very same girls that they must pay for some things in a roundabout way. (See list above.) Otherwise, the guy will begin to believe (correctly or not) that the girl is self-centered and that he's being used. Girls, are you listening?:)

You got it. The technique I usually use is to go out with a girl for a while as friends, perhaps a month or so. In this time I don't make any moves, but spend time with her at dinner and movies, or so forth. This way she pays for herself as we're just friends. Once I ask her out, she is already in the habit of paying for herself. Although if its a girl that I'm crazy about I'll ask her out right away and pay for the first date in fear of losing her to someone else.

Some other day I'll have to devulge my psychology about going about the bar/club scene...

Punzie
January 14th, 2007, 03:32 PM
Although if its a girl that I'm crazy about I'll ask her out right away and pay for the first date in fear of losing her to someone else.

What girls' mothers and grandmothers teach them: "If he's crazy enough about you, he'll pay for the dates. If not... he's not worth going out with."

(Don't shoot the messenger!)

lorcar
January 15th, 2007, 02:13 AM
coul plz some explain the difference between "dating" and "hanging out with" a girl?

in NY is quite common to meet new people everyday, and you can have also dinner with 2 different girls in the same week. Paying all the time may be not easy.
So far, I spent (for a dinner of two) something around 110-130 (with wine). Do you know (do they exist, I mean) nice places where you can spend less?

FrankHegly
January 15th, 2007, 03:35 AM
Hanging Out Vs Dating

I would class hanging out as 'just friends' where either one or both parties has no intrest in the other.

Dating is where both parties are interested in each other.

Spending Less

A nice cheap place should not be too hard to find in
NY. I guess it depends on how much you are spening on wine.....??

If it's not too much then I don't know how you end up paying so much. Most girls I know (including my Fiancé) would not dream of eating 3 courses.

For a 1 course meal at say $20 X 2 thats only $40.
Add drinks $20 fo a bottle of wine (which will easily last one course)
Add tip and your paying $70

That's about half what you are spending.

Go elsewhere for drinks, if she is even half-decent she should offer to buy you atleast 1 drink after having been bought dinner.

Advantages:

Makes more of a night out of it, as when ppl eat more they feel more tired and don't want to stay out.
Financially benificial but not seemingly 'cheap'Small tip 1
In a place as BIG as NY there has to be loads of restraunts openning and closing every week. When restraunts open, usually prices are lower and/or have special openning discounts. If you have a look for them you can save money whilst also getting the chance to sample new restraunts and that in itself is fun. You wouldn't come accross as cheap, just say there is a new restraunt just openned on ??st that you wanted to try. You never know you might find the new place to be before everyone else does.

Small Tip 2
If you cannot afford to pay for her cab there and back, meet her at the restraunt and catch the subway there yourself. That way you only need pay on the way back to hers to drop her off.

This is only any good if you really cannot afford both ways and think using the subway would come off wrong. It is fine to meet someone at a restraunt as you may be working etc and need to meet her there. But paying for the cab back is the most important-esspecially in a city @ night.

Small Tip 3
Meet up for lunch instead. If you are hanging out then it's a lot more informal and you do not need to impress in the same way (unless you have different intentions). Lunching is cheaper, you eat and drink less

Restraunts
The restraunts you choose depend on whether you are lunching or dining.

Lunch can be more informal, cheaper and more focused on location rather than the most romantic etc.

Dinner (when looking to impress) should be more formal, more expensive and does not have to be so convenient to get to (unless you work strange hours and have to go to work after dinner?).

I am not the best person to advise you on examples of the above but I am sure if you let people know which you want they will only be too happy to oblige.

Jamie

Punzie
January 15th, 2007, 07:29 AM
Take a walk up Ninth Avenue, from 44th St to 57th. The Nineth Ave restaurants are particularly good value. Walk into every restaurant that looks classy (or cozy), and pick up a paper menu. Take notes as soon as you're outside. Many places will have prix-fixe lunches and/or dinners because they are in or near the theater district. Your walk will be well worth it.

Also cover theater district streets that appear to have many restaurants, (like 46th, between 8th & 9th). Some of their prix-fixe lunches and dinners are exceptionally good value.
______________________

A picky, thrifty acquaintance of mine took his date to this place last month for lunch and recommends it:

Meson Sevilla
346 W. 46th St.
Lunch: 12-3, Mon-Sat

For $15.95 you get:

Glass of wine or sangria
Salad or Soup
Entree
Dessert/Coffee

www.mesonsevilla.com

FrankHegly
January 15th, 2007, 07:50 AM
For $15.95 you get:

Glass of wine or sangria
Salad or Soup
Entree
Dessert/Coffee



That's perfect- just the kind of thing I had in mind.

This is probably one of hundreds of restraunts that look good and are easy on the wallet.

The only 2 restraunts I have been to that would be worth suggesting are SAPA and Serendipity (If you book in advance). In expensive and both nice in their own unique way.

Again it depends if its a date or not....and if its a date how much you want to impress.

But I think if you follow the advise in both the previous posts you will not need to be spending as high as $110+

Punzie
January 15th, 2007, 06:22 PM
This is probably one of hundreds of restraunts that look good and are easy on the wallet.

Exactly, which is why I was hesitant to mention the restaurant by name and post the website. Just is, the members here like to see concrete examples.
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I have a gigantic, up-to-date file of paper menus from restaurants in NYC and Long Island. They all have comments, like last time visited, food quality, ambience, best dishes, etc. I'll be happy to give restaurant info out to the folks on this site.

My friends and acquaintances contribute to the file, for the most part; I just house and maintain it because I'm accessible 24/7. ("Help, it's 4am and we need a sushi fix!") I'm thinking of giving the file a name. How does "Rapunzagat" sound?:D

FrankHegly
January 16th, 2007, 05:42 AM
I have a similar book which I use to index places and then restraunts/coutry pubs that are good in that area... me and my fiancé keep it in the car and then when we get hungry we can either add to it or use one of the listings.

...anyway this is slightly off topic.... so fun idea for a date....

Broadway show..??

Punzie
January 18th, 2007, 10:27 AM
NYatKnight put up this link, and it looks like it could be a fun, novel dating experience:

Ghosts of New York Walking Tours (http://www.ghostsofny.com/)

It's $15/person, daytime or nighttime, and... well... with something like this, you can learn A LOT about your date.:D


Here's the WNY topic:

Haunted New York (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12192)

FrankHegly
January 18th, 2007, 11:26 AM
We have these in the UK and I love them. Always tell you interesting facts about the cities and also can be quite humerous- I think this is a top tip.

I would first suggest checking out which type best suits your date... some tours offer comedy whilst some are to scare you with people jumping out etc.

I dont know if the tours would be as good in NY as in the UK as the cobbled streets of York or the narrow roads in Edinburgh add to the feel.

But I think someone should go and let me know. what they thought....

dwayne3427
October 21st, 2010, 05:13 AM
Hello Everybody,
I wanna have a date a babe in new york, I have no choices to mention i will be in Manhattan in coming week.

Ninjahedge
October 25th, 2010, 08:55 AM
You neeed to look a bit harder if all you are coming up with on your first two posts on the forum are bumps to threads over 3 years old......

ZippyTheChimp
October 25th, 2010, 09:20 AM
Link was edited out, but 'dwayne' should have been banned. Just spam from India.

Ninjahedge
October 26th, 2010, 02:01 PM
The classic 3-5 post spider to get past the link posting restrictions on most websites?

Magdalena Bury
October 15th, 2013, 09:58 AM
Oh, by the way... I can't dance. I don't really care to learn how, either (at this time) :p


Dancing is not that important if you do other fun stuff. Ex. there are plenty of bars where you can play pool. I played pool on my first date in NYC this summer and it was one of the best dates I had :)