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MidtownGuy
June 16th, 2007, 10:37 AM
Well, I have booked my journey to Spain next month. Until I actually get there and start posting photos, I might need to ask a few questions, and would be grateful for any responses. Also, if anyone has specific photo requests, like a certain area or site, I'll see what I can do!

I think I've decided to stay in the Eixample district. I hope this is a good choice.:confused:

ablarc
June 16th, 2007, 11:09 AM
Also, if anyone has specific photo requests, like a certain area or site, I'll see what I can do!
Mies' Pavilion, Gehry's fish, the Barceloneta district, shots from the harbor tramway, Dali's museum in Figueres, the AVE from Madrid parked in the station, Meier's museum. (But spare us Nouvel's dildo. ;))

MidtownGuy
June 16th, 2007, 05:22 PM
My gosh, you sure know how to amplify a person's excitement! Thanks for the suggestions. ;)

kelsheikh
July 6th, 2007, 01:39 PM
Sounds like a great trip. Bon Voyage.

MidtownGuy
July 6th, 2007, 03:37 PM
Thank you very much! I'm getting really excited!!

Meerkat
July 12th, 2007, 08:35 AM
How long are you there for? Will you be staying in barcelona or visiting a few other places?
Its one of those places i keep meaning to visit but haven't got round to booking - i'll look forward to seeing the pictures though, have a nice trip.

MidtownGuy
July 12th, 2007, 01:58 PM
thanks Meerkat, I'll be in Barcelona for 4 nights, probably with a day trip to Sitges. It's all part of a longer trip. I will also visit Madrid, Granada, Sevilla, and Ibiza. Then it's a 4 day stop in Germany to see dear friends in Dusseldorf. From Dusseldorf I fly to Greece to do some island hopping. The whole thing is 35 days.
I'm looking forward to sharing photos from each place.
cheers

lofter1
July 12th, 2007, 07:03 PM
You will go crazy for Granada :D

MidtownGuy
July 12th, 2007, 07:09 PM
Yeah, I'm really excited about Granada. I've heard so many great things. I purchased my tickets for the Alhambra yesterday.

lofter1
July 12th, 2007, 09:23 PM
I don't remember the name but there is (was?) a terrific restaurant up top on the hill which overlooks the Alhambra ... glorious place to eat outside.

Ninjahedge
July 13th, 2007, 09:57 AM
http://www.mypicshare.com/thumbs/20070713/cgo2fz8d.jpg (http://www.mypicshare.com/cgo2fz8dpic.html)

http://www.mypicshare.com/thumbs/20070713/u47tjqdd.jpg (http://www.mypicshare.com/u47tjqddpic.html)

Nice town....

MidtownGuy
July 13th, 2007, 10:54 AM
^cool pics

lofter, we are staying in the Albaycin district which, I think, is situated on the hill you describe...I'll see if I can find that restaurant. thanks for the tip!

Justiceiro
July 20th, 2007, 09:17 AM
Check out the Casa Mila, it is at 92 Passeig de Grącia. One of Gaudi's nicer buildings.

The Benniest
July 22nd, 2007, 02:27 PM
I have personally been to Barcelona, Spain and loved it! It's the most beautiful town in Spain in my opinion. :P Well .. next to Madrid. I have to go off to work, but when I get home, I'll post some pictures of my trip and mention a couple of places I reccomend.

Catcha Later,
Benny

MidtownGuy
July 27th, 2007, 06:41 AM
I arrived today in Barcelona, after many amazing experiences in Madrid, Granada and Sevilla. I can't wait to share many amazing images with all of you.
I LOVE SPAIN!! Simply fantastic!!

ablarc
July 29th, 2007, 09:54 PM
Do you speak Spanish, MidtownGuy? If so, how's your lisp? How much use is Spanish in Barcelona, where they speak Catalan? Or do they all speak Spanish as well?

How do you keep your laptop safe?

MidtownGuy
July 30th, 2007, 07:59 PM
Yes, I speak fluent Spanish. It seems very few people speak English here, so it has made everything so much easier (especially in Andalucia). I don't bother doing the lisp because it feels disingenuous; I learned New World Spanish. Sort of like going to England and talking like a Brit all of a sudden.

In Barcelona it seems nearly everyone speaks Spanish in addition to Catalan. They watch national TV shows that are broadcast in Spanish and radio stations as well. When they talk amongst themselves, they're using Catalan, as when I am walking down the street and overhear families conversing.

All signs are primarily in Catalan, often with Spanish translations but only occasionally an English translation. My traveling companion has had to rely on my Spanish for almost all interactions. We've had many experiences where we don't know how we would have managed without at least one of us speaking the language. in tourist zones, such as Sitges (which we visited today), shopkeepers speak English. So, tourists heading straight for a resort have little problems but if you have a question for a busdriver or need to ask directions of a person on the street, English will get you nowhere.


How do you keep your laptop safe?

God forbid anything should happen to that!! Just trying to be very cautious.

Barcelona reminds me of New York 15 years ago. It has soul, true nightlife, and the people are free to live their lives unmolested by overbearing police and ridiculous social constraints. A wonderful city.

Meerkat
August 1st, 2007, 09:21 AM
In Catalonia do they consider themselves principally Spanish or Catalonain? Is there much evidence of a push for independence from Spain as with the Basque region?

ablarc
August 4th, 2007, 11:33 AM
Barcelona reminds me of New York 15 years ago. It has soul, true nightlife, and the people are free to live their lives unmolested by overbearing police and ridiculous social constraints.
OK, so how do we bring back New York's nightlife?

Schadenfrau
August 4th, 2007, 01:07 PM
Meerkat- definitely Catalonian.

I agree about the nightlife, MidtownGuy. I was in heaven over there. If you're still in Barcelona, be sure to check out Gracia. We loved the bars there, and didn't really encounter too many other tourists.

I love that most bars in Barcelona weren't packed to the gills every night of the week like they are in New York. Can you imagine- actually finding a seat in a bar? Also, the music was played at an appropriate volume. You would never see people screaming to each other like you do here.

As for how to bring back New York City's nightlife, I think we'd need a time machine to go back to the late 90s and destroy anyone involved in the production of Sex And The City.

ablarc
August 4th, 2007, 02:04 PM
destroy anyone involved in the production of Sex And The City.
Never saw that show. How did it slay New York's nightlife?

Schadenfrau
August 4th, 2007, 02:52 PM
I really do think that show attracted a large number of superficial and materialistic types to New York. If you ever encounter a young woman you suspect of having these characteristics who has moved to the city in the past 7 years or so, ask her opinion of this show. I guarantee that she'll love it, and her perception of city life will have been heavily influenced by watching it.

Do you guys remember the times before any liquor served in a certain glass was sloppily called a martini? So do I, but these women don't. The bars frequented on SATC were almost always of the hotel/lounge/doorman-guarded variety, and as such, the SATC minions demand no less of an experience. The bars have obliged, and you will find many of these women in said bars on any given night, especially Thursdays. On weekends, they're frequently found piled 30 to-a-house in the Hamptons, just to complete that glamorous SATC lifestyle. They're also easy to spot lined up outside of Magnolia Bakery, and at sample sales, where they can be observed behaving like they're competing for the final spot on the last raft off the Titanic.

Have fun bimbo-hunting!

ablarc
August 4th, 2007, 06:06 PM
So ... superficial and materialistic women, bad martinis, and doormen ... all combined to wreck the nightlife ...

How can it be fixed?

Schadenfrau
August 4th, 2007, 08:34 PM
I'd actually say that those three elements were major components of the city's nightlife going to pot, so I don't know if you're kidding or not. The general increase in the number of idiots looking to "party" didn't help, either. And I'll still go as far to say that the conflict of people moving in and out of an overly crowded bar to smoke contributes. (Hi, Ninjahedge!)

And that's not even getting into the fact that the bars are filled with people who seem to think that life's not worth living unless it's on MySpace, so they photograph and videotape their foolishness all night long.

The real problem is that this jackassery used to be limited to a few neighborhoods, but recently, it has spread to most of them. I have a few tried and true bars I'll venture into Thursday-Saturday, but otherwise, I go out only on weeknights. That has been my solution to what would improve the quality of my nightlife.

If you're looking for a general fix, I honestly think the city would have to be repopulated. I like a bar with a mixed crowd- all ages, races, incomes, what have you. Unfortunately, these are hard to come by because of the huge surge of entitled brats who seem to come in by the bus-load after 10 or 11PM. I was in quiet, mellow bar (Tom & Jerry's) on a Saturday night a few weeks ago. Around 10:30, no less than 30 of these loud, obnoxious, thoughtless types came in together and completely changed the mood. There's obviously nowhere for them to sit, so they crowded around the people who were sitting, knocking into them and shouting to their friends until anyone who wasn't one of them just gave up and left.

On the cab ride home, we saw a bar on Avenue C with maybe 50 more of these kids screeching outside. I don't think they were all outside because of the smoking ban, either.

In short, a better nightlife would include (and this is obviously a fantasy):

1. More bars to ensure more choices, more seats, and less crowding.
2. Less bars focused on playing the hits of the day at volumes that prevent speaking.
3. More dance clubs, so that those who want to dance can do so, and those who don't want to dance don't have to be bothered with people selfishly knocking around.
4. More smoking areas to prevent gridlock.
5. Far fewer venues serving "chocotinis" and the like.
6. Better, more attentive bartenders.
7. More seating within existing bars.
8. More venues catering to people over the age of 25 or so.
9. Bar-goers actually taking their fellow patrons' comfort into consideration.
10. Executing anyone who decided to move to New York City based upon what they saw on a TV show.

Schadenfrau
August 4th, 2007, 08:38 PM
On second though, execution may be a bit harsh. I'll settle for sending them off on a never-ending cruise to various spring break locations- the only situation in which their vile behavior is to be expected.

ablarc
August 5th, 2007, 03:05 PM
In short, a better nightlife would include (and this is obviously a fantasy):

1. More bars to ensure more choices, more seats, and less crowding.
2. Less bars focused on playing the hits of the day at volumes that prevent speaking.
3. More dance clubs, so that those who want to dance can do so, and those who don't want to dance don't have to be bothered with people selfishly knocking around.
4. More smoking areas to prevent gridlock.
5. Far fewer venues serving "chocotinis" and the like.
6. Better, more attentive bartenders.
7. More seating within existing bars.
8. More venues catering to people over the age of 25 or so.
9. Bar-goers actually taking their fellow patrons' comfort into consideration.
10. Executing anyone who decided to move to New York City based upon what they saw on a TV show.
Sounds like New York's nightlife is not so mortally wounded. All but #10 sound like tweaks to me or subject to sensitivity training. :)

Now Teheran has seriously compromised nightlife. ;)

Schadenfrau
August 5th, 2007, 04:45 PM
But many of those tweaks are prevented by existing laws. Have you read about how difficult it is to obtain a liquor license lately?

ablarc
August 5th, 2007, 05:04 PM
But many of those tweaks are prevented by existing laws. Have you read about how difficult it is to obtain a liquor license lately?
Aha! Now you've put your finger on the cause of the decline.

(Knew the government had to be behind it somewhere.)

MidtownGuy
September 4th, 2007, 12:33 PM
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MidtownGuy
September 4th, 2007, 12:34 PM
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MidtownGuy
September 4th, 2007, 12:35 PM
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MidtownGuy
September 4th, 2007, 12:35 PM
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September 4th, 2007, 12:36 PM
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September 4th, 2007, 12:37 PM
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September 4th, 2007, 12:37 PM
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NYatKNIGHT
September 4th, 2007, 06:39 PM
Incredible! Such beauty, it's like a fantasy land. Thanks for sharing all these fantastic photos.