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londonlawyer
July 8th, 2007, 03:57 PM
Scaffolding has been erected around this magnificent building and a permit refers to future demolition. I am so pissed. This permit was granted in May, but on April 17, 2007, CB1 recommended that this beauty be considered for landmarking. I hope that Tierney the Moron acts before this stunning Georgian gem is altered by the "developer."

antinimby
July 8th, 2007, 05:34 PM
Salt into a wound if it's a Kaufman-McSam.

sfenn1117
July 8th, 2007, 05:35 PM
It's part of the development at 111 Washington (which there does not seem to be a thread for). It would be nice if just the garage was demolished with the air rights transferred, but this one is set to come down unfortunately.

antinimby
July 8th, 2007, 05:40 PM
^ Easily remedied.

londonlawyer: go back and do an 'advance edit' on your first post and change the title of the thread to 111 Washington St. ;)

londonlawyer
July 8th, 2007, 05:45 PM
But the building is 105-107. The garage is 111.

antinimby
July 8th, 2007, 05:47 PM
^ They're all part of the same development but either way is fine. "More senseless Destruction..." sounds more intriguing anyway. :D

londonlawyer
July 8th, 2007, 06:11 PM
^ They're all part of the same development but either way is fine. "More senseless Destruction..." sounds more intriguing anyway. :D

Is that the tower by Garret Gourlay?

antinimby
July 8th, 2007, 07:00 PM
^ Yes.

Razing 105 is unnecessary because the footprint from the combination of the garage and 109 next door is plenty large enough for his condo tower.

Should've just transferred its air rights over but instead, they plan on turning the site into a dumb plaza.

Here's an excerpt from a Downtown Express article (http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_172/greenwichsouth.html) a few months back:


“A change of the character of the neighborhood is happening,” said Frank Graziadei, C.E.O. of the Brauser Group, which is developing 111 Washington St., a high-rise residential condo designed by Garrett Gourlay. “The whole area could very easily be the next Soho or Chelsea or Tribeca. Greenwich St. is going to be a little nook.”

Developer Gerald Brauser plans to transform his six-story parking garage at the corner of Washington and Carlisle Sts. into a 50-story, 300-unit luxury condo, with an eight-story garage.

Last December, Brauser, an 80-year-old Polish-born developer, paid $12.6 million for 105 Washington St., a six-story building that used to be home to the True Buddha Diamond Temple. Last August, he bought the building directly behind it — 104 Greenwich St. — for $10 million.

He plans to demolish 105 Washington St., a 1926 building, and replace it with a public plaza. He has no immediate plans for the Greenwich St. property, which is currently home to the Remy Lounge restaurant. “It would have been nice to do something where you can join the two buildings, but you can’t do it,” said Graziadei, adding that his company might eventually develop 104 Greenwich.

Derek2k3
July 10th, 2007, 12:38 AM
Well remember the building on the lot takes up FAR as well. Demolishing the building will give the developer an additional ~20,000 feet?

But for a plaza. Insane. Apparently nothing is sacred in this city.

ablarc
July 10th, 2007, 12:44 AM
Insane indeed. This man must be stopped. Who do we write to?

antinimby
September 27th, 2007, 06:48 PM
No trace of that parking garage is left:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1167/img0065fv1.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0065fv1.jpg) http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/796/img0066dr8.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0066dr8.jpg)

londonlawyer
September 27th, 2007, 06:51 PM
No trace of that parking garage is left:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1167/img0065fv1.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0065fv1.jpg) http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/796/img0066dr8.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0066dr8.jpg)

I'm glad the garage is gone but am concerned about the 3 buildings just south of it including the stunning neo-Georgian at 105 Washington pictured in the middle below. It has beautiful copper dormers (which are not visible in the photo) and stunning details. Brauser is a Macklowesque creep.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4456&d=1184038591

londonlawyer
November 4th, 2007, 12:26 AM
The Landmarks Comm. is composed of incompetent morons. I walked by Watts St. between 6th and Varick on Nov. 3, 2007 and noticed that a building that appeared to date from the 1820's was being demolished. Something just to the west of it already had been razed, and I believe it probably dated from the same era. That f...ing area has empty parking lots everywhere, so why would they let some schmuck developer razed a nearly 200 year old building? I was (and still am) fuming!!!

antinimby
May 27th, 2008, 06:39 PM
Another Developer Plans Downtown Hotel



Last updated: May 27, 2008 (http://www.globest.com/news/1165_1165/newyork/171036-1.html) 12:31pm

NEW YORK CITY-BCN Development CEO Craig Nassi tells GlobeSt.com that his firm is currently in the works to build a 400,000-sf hotel near the World Trade Center site. Although details are scarce at this point, with the specific site and financing information not disclosed, Nassi says it will be a five-star hotel with 200-plus condos, and groundbreaking is expected to be in early 2009.

Nassi says the hotel is expected to be complete within 36 months. He notes that "debt is at a maximum of 55% to 60% today, which makes the capital stack difficult to fill while still fulfilling your proforma." He adds that construction costs throughout Manhattan are at a "$500-plus-per-sf to build cost, only this has to be built union which is very costly." He expects to close within 90 days.

Factoring in that $500-plus per sf, a 400,000-sf property would be approximately over $200 million, according to GlobeSt.com's calculations, although one source put the construction cost closer to $1000. Another unidentified industry source tells GlobeSt.com that $1,000-per-buildable-sf is too high, but $500-per-sf is low. After following up with Nassi again regarding the construction costs, he again says that "hard costs are only $500-per-buildable-sf."

Nassi says that anything near the World Trade Center is desirable because "it's going to be the largest tourist attraction in New York City and the USA for decades to come." He says that Costas Kondylis & Partners LLP Architects has been hired. A rendering on BCN's website shows a proposed tower by Costas Kondylis at 111 Washington St., which is more than likely the tower's location, although Nassi would not further confirm. Calls to Costas Kondylis were not returned by deadline.

Sumner Baye, president and partner of International Hotel Network LLC, tells GlobeSt.com that a lot of the success of hotel properties downtown depends on the WTC's plans and how quickly it will get done, which is difficult, he explains. He adds that the location is very competitive--with Silverstein's Four Seasons and the Ritz Carlton in the area, for example.

"You have to be careful. The cost of construction is very high, so to build a hotel today from the ground-floor up is a very costly business depending on what type of hotel you are going to build," he says.

Baye says that in order to compete with the Four Seasons hotel and the Ritz Carlton hotel, rates will have to be $500 to $1000 per night to be competitive based on constructions costs, which he notes are "probably closer to $1000 per-buildable-sf to get it done." Baye also explains to GlobeSt.com the importance of branding in order to compete with these other hotels in the area. "The question is, who are they going to bring in to compete with these other brands in the area?"

As GlobeSt.com previously reported, hotel experts have a lot of confidence in Downtown at the moment. Swig Equities LLC recently revealed plans to construct a 62-story, luxury, mixed-use development Downtown. Also, Daniel Lesser, senior managing director of CB Richard Ellis Valuation & Advisory Services and Hospitality and Gaming Group, told GlobeSt.com last week that "hotels are experiencing strong occupancy levels and increases in room rates that exceed underlying inflation rates."

He further explained that similar to all of Manhattan, "Downtown is currently 'under-hoteled' with a variety of new lodging projects in various stages of development. Given the increased corporate and leisure/transient demand expected during the foreseeable future, occupancy levels should remain strong coupled with continued growth in room rates above inflationary levels."

BCN last year purchased 315 Park Ave. South as GlobeSt.com exclusively reported. BCN was started in 1993 by Nassi and focuses mainly on creating high-end, mixed-use properties.

Copyright © 2008 ALM Properties, Inc.

Derek2k3
May 27th, 2008, 07:37 PM
Not bad for Kondylis. Seems it'll be taller than 4 Albany next door, so maybe about 650 feet.

http://www.bcndevelopment.com/images/downtown-nyc-big.jpg

antinimby
May 27th, 2008, 07:42 PM
Thanks Derek. Let's put it up...(by the way, I like what I'm seeing)

http://www.bcndevelopment.com/images/downtown-nyc-big.jpg

pianoman11686
May 27th, 2008, 09:35 PM
I walked around this area a lot today. It is very busy with construction activity, between this, W Downtown, 65 West, and scaffolding up on another low-rise building.

Stern
May 27th, 2008, 11:56 PM
This looks great. Much better than the W nextdoor. It'll look great just south of the WTC!

londonlawyer
May 28th, 2008, 12:00 AM
I hope that they don't raze 105-107 Washington. There's no reason to do so. The parking lot seems big enough to hold this building.

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4456&d=1184038591

Stroika
May 28th, 2008, 01:02 AM
LL, have you thought about sending in a landmarks application? Especially if CB1 already gave the landmarking its imprimatur last year, it might be worthwhile to rekindle the flame before it's snuffed out.

I came across this while riding home in a cab tonight. It's only tenuously related, but it makes a strong case in its own way for 105 Washington's preservation. Even if this new hotel isn't threatening it, you can be sure someone will want to knock it down at some point...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D06E1DA1F3EF931A25751C1A96F9582 60

Stroika
May 28th, 2008, 01:02 AM
PS Can the area hold this many hotels? With McSam's future eyesore, this makes it ... how many FiDi hotels? A lot, it seems. Is there a market for such a large number of beds to come online in the next 5 years?

lofter1
May 28th, 2008, 01:03 AM
The white building ^ at 103 Washington (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?bin=1001045&requestid=2) will remain. It is on the calendar at Landmarks for possible designation. It is the home of Moran's Bar & Grill. (http://www.lovelyrestaurants.com/MoransBar?showmap=1&toz=)

The brick neo-Georgian buildng to the north at 105-107 Washington (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?bin=1001046&requestid=4) is coming down. The DEMO Permit (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=6&passjobnumber=104866735&passdocnumber=01) was issued on 4.28.08.

Apparenty the 5-story red brick walk up at 109 Washington (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByLocationServlet?requestid=7&allbin=1001047&allstrt=WASHINGTON+STREET&allnumbhous=109) will remain, leaving a narrow sliver lot between the two projects.

philvia
May 28th, 2008, 02:00 AM
103 washington is pretty, i dont care much for the brown one next door..


anyways, love the render! hope it turns out equally as impressive

Stern
May 28th, 2008, 02:19 AM
103 is gorgeous and should be saved. 105-107 is nothing remarkable and is no great loss, especially for a building of this caliber.

BrooklynLove
May 28th, 2008, 08:36 AM
The white building ^ at 103 Washington (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?bin=1001045&requestid=2) will remain. It is on the calendar at Landmarks for possible designation. It is the home of Moran's Bar & Grill. (http://www.lovelyrestaurants.com/MoransBar?showmap=1&toz=)

The brick neo-Georgian buildng to the north at 105-107 Washington (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?bin=1001046&requestid=4) is coming down. The DEMO Permit (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=6&passjobnumber=104866735&passdocnumber=01) was issued on 4.28.08.

Apparenty the 5-story red brick walk up at 109 Washington (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByLocationServlet?requestid=7&allbin=1001047&allstrt=WASHINGTON+STREET&allnumbhous=109) will remain, leaving a narrow sliver lot between the two projects.

that's my understanding as well. admittedly i wish that 109 was coming down - it's a total POS, and i'd rather see that space used toward one of the towers. anyhow its days are limited once those towers go up.

lofter1
May 28th, 2008, 10:16 AM
Don't be so sure.

According to Department of Finance records from October 2005 ("Zoning Lot Development and Easement Agreement (http://a836-acris.nyc.gov/Scripts/DocSearch.dll/Detail?Doc_ID=2005101801561007)") the air rights for 109 have been transferred to the project at 111 Washington. By that Agreement 109 & 111 have been combined into one zoning lot and 111 has purchased the "excess development rights" of 109, allowing 111 to go taller.

Another upside is that corner project at 111 should be able to have windows on the exposed south facade.

And the project going up mid-block at 105-107 will have "protected" properties on both sides, so seemingly that new building could have windows on both the north & south faces, thereby saving us from huge slabs of blank walls on these new buildings.

BrooklynLove
May 28th, 2008, 02:14 PM
good point. nonetheless it pains me to think that the rat trap at 109 will continue in its cruddy condition while surrounded by sleek new towers.

pianoman11686
May 28th, 2008, 03:21 PM
I wish I had taken a few more pictures of this area yesterday. I'm almost positive I saw scaffolding covering all of 109 Washington. Made me think it was coming down.

Stroika, to answer you question: Lower Manhattan is the most underserved neighborhood in terms of hotels in all of Manhattan. There are only a few major full-service hotels now (Millennium, Ritz-Carlton, Embassy Suites, Marriott Downtown) in close proximity to the WTC. This area could use several more new hotels.

NYC4Life
May 28th, 2008, 05:12 PM
PS Can the area hold this many hotels? With McSam's future eyesore, this makes it ... how many FiDi hotels? A lot, it seems. Is there a market for such a large number of beds to come online in the next 5 years?

The reason why Hotels are sprouting is because the demand for office space is high, which in turn will attract tourists, which is expected to rise in the coming years. After 9/11 the only major hotel still present in Lower Manhattan was the Hilton Millenium.

BrooklynRider
May 28th, 2008, 05:47 PM
I think a larger issue that has defined lower Manhattan as an ideal hotel location is the relative close proximity to all the subway lines. There's no dealing with eastside - westside issues for tourists.

BrooklynLove
May 28th, 2008, 10:09 PM
also proximity to ellis and SOL ferries, WTC, NYSE, Fed Reserve, BK bridge, City Hall, Century 21 (yes this is now officialy a tourist attraction)

londonlawyer
May 28th, 2008, 10:24 PM
The white building ^ at 103 Washington (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?bin=1001045&requestid=2) will remain. It is on the calendar at Landmarks for possible designation. It is the home of Moran's Bar & Grill. (http://www.lovelyrestaurants.com/MoransBar?showmap=1&toz=)

The brick neo-Georgian buildng to the north at 105-107 Washington (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?bin=1001046&requestid=4) is coming down. The DEMO Permit (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=6&passjobnumber=104866735&passdocnumber=01) was issued on 4.28.08.

Apparenty the 5-story red brick walk up at 109 Washington (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByLocationServlet?requestid=7&allbin=1001047&allstrt=WASHINGTON+STREET&allnumbhous=109) will remain, leaving a narrow sliver lot between the two projects.


That sucks. Why would they have an empty lot in the middle?

macreator
May 28th, 2008, 10:52 PM
I love how tall, skinny, mixed-use towers have become the norm around the World Trade Center site.

lofter1
May 29th, 2008, 01:21 AM
Why would they have an empty lot in the middle?

It won't be empty. The 5-story brick will remain.

BrooklynLove
May 29th, 2008, 08:38 AM
definitely people living there now. that must be a pleasant experience.

lofter1
May 29th, 2008, 09:52 AM
NYC HPD shows that 109 Washington (5-story brick) has 16 Residential Units:

The selected address: 109 WASHINGTON STREET, Manhattan 10006

HPD #: 29251
Active Range: 109-109
Block: 00053
Lot: 0006
CD: 1
CensusTract: 1300
Stories: 5
A Units: 16
B Units: 0
Ownership: PVT
MDR #: 109870
Class: A

Undoubtedly a number of those 16 units are Rent Stabilized.

kitten
July 27th, 2008, 05:30 PM
sorry guys, but i'm confused by the postings- so you're saying BCN is building their tower on the 111 plot, but NOT on 109 or 105-107? if 105-107 has a demo permit, what is going there?

BrooklynLove
July 28th, 2008, 07:57 AM
109 was slated to stay put and 105-107 was supposedly coming down.

However, as of last weekend, the scaffold and netting had been entirely removed from 105-107 ...

kitten
July 28th, 2008, 01:16 PM
so 105 was supposed to be part of the BCN development?

ZippyTheChimp
July 30th, 2008, 06:04 PM
105-107 without the scaffolding.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8119/greenwichsouth05cnn0.th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenwichsouth05cnn0.jpg) http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3214/greenwichsouth06czl8.th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenwichsouth06czl8.jpg) http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/145/greenwichsouth07cpx3.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenwichsouth07cpx3.jpg)

There's no reason to demolish this building. Besides its attractive appearance, it unifies the buildings that will remain - 103 and 109.

Without it, you'd have a tower at 99 Washington (at Rector), then 103, a plaza, 109, and another tower at 111.

kitten
July 30th, 2008, 06:51 PM
i agree it wouldn't make sense to break up the unity and have a plaza mid block... but if 105 is empty, who owns it now and what are they planning?

Fahzee
August 8th, 2008, 07:24 PM
Yeah - scaffolding has totally come down on 105-107 -

But there were several stop work orders posted on the door - makes me think that scaffolding will return.....

BrooklynLove
August 9th, 2008, 01:44 PM
They got the full demo permit as well as related fence and scaffold permit back in April 2008, so my guess is that we'll see a fence go up soon and then new shed and scaffold will follow. The old scaffold may have come down due to inadequacy. I recall reading somewhere that this building has asbestos issues.

Cat235D
August 28th, 2008, 09:31 PM
last year we bid the foundation for this job and the only building that was staying was Morans. the new foundation was suposed to go from corner to corner under Morans and the new tower went up over morans.

londonlawyer
August 28th, 2008, 10:25 PM
105-107 without the scaffolding.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8119/greenwichsouth05cnn0.th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenwichsouth05cnn0.jpg) http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3214/greenwichsouth06czl8.th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenwichsouth06czl8.jpg) http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/145/greenwichsouth07cpx3.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenwichsouth07cpx3.jpg)

There's no reason to demolish this building. Besides its attractive appearance, it unifies the buildings that will remain - 103 and 109....

I agree. It's a beautiful building.

kitten
September 1st, 2008, 03:24 PM
mc sam has a stop work order for excavation damaging the foundation of the neighboring building- 103 perhaps? 103 also has a new sign up advertising 'availability'... leasing or sale????

lofter1
September 25th, 2008, 07:18 PM
I was walking past the McSam site at Washington / Rector today and a guy was waiting for a DOB inpsector -- he said the Stop Work Order for that job has been lifted and they're ready to get back to work :(

Jaffster
September 25th, 2008, 08:02 PM
It is just amazing how much work is being done on Washington street south of WTC. New towers at 123 Washington, 111 Washington, 99 Washington, 50 West. Also, That small building next to Deutsche Bank is being gutted, and the best news of all is that they started demolishing DB again. From the window in my office, you can see guys working on the roof of this building with jackhammers, and the crane lowering a dumpster.

antinimby
September 26th, 2008, 05:24 AM
McSams are like disgusting roaches/rats. They can't really be stopped.

If floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, typhoons, fires, mudslides, tsunamis, volcanoes, droughts, climate change, economic crisis, recessions, depressions, wars, nuclear fallout, terrorism, famines, plagues, diseases, and the sun exploding can't stop them, you think some little ole Stop Work Order is gonna be able to do it? :mad:

WestT
September 29th, 2008, 09:37 PM
Work will be allowed to resume when a sincere effort to protect 103 Washington Street is demonstrated by Tritel, McSam's owned contracting Co.

Stroika
September 30th, 2008, 02:54 PM
I think a fatwa should be declared on Sam Chang, the biggest terrorist in all of New York.

kitten
October 11th, 2008, 11:27 PM
looks like full steam ahead on sam's hotel @ 99 washington.... i hear moran's has sold to sam but unconfirmed...

BrooklynLove
October 12th, 2008, 08:42 PM
looks like full steam ahead on sam's hotel @ 99 washington.... i hear moran's has sold to sam but unconfirmed...

I can see a sale of air rights in ACRIS but not the actual parcel.

kitten
October 12th, 2008, 10:14 PM
what is the date for the air rights sale? i think sometimes it takes a while for sales to post on ACRIS...

lofter1
October 12th, 2008, 11:25 PM
Sale of Moran's air rights > McSam: May 23, 2008.

Since Chang has bought Moran's air rights (from the lot to the north at 103 Washington), thereby increasing the allowable FAR for 99-101 Washington, then it seems there would be no point of buying the actual Moran's building / land.

btw: According to DOF it looks like McSam @ 99 Washington has also grabbed up the remaining and available air rights (plus some easements) from the other connecting properties to the east and northeast:

94 Greenwich
94A Greenwich
96 Greenwich

Therefore this new McSam building on the corner of Washington / Rector should have no blank walls, but should have windows all around (since all neighboring properties @ ~ 3-5 stories will remain).

scumonkey
October 12th, 2008, 11:34 PM
Should being the operative word here...

kitten
October 12th, 2008, 11:48 PM
so he has all the air rights- but isn't 103 also slated for redevelopment of condos thereby blocking hotel windows? is there a rendering of sam's plan anywhere?

lofter1
October 12th, 2008, 11:58 PM
The Gene Kaufman, Architect (http://www.gkapc.com/) website has something that might be the plan for this site (it looks fairly similar to the other McSam / GKA 35-story hotel planned for up the block at Trinity / Rector); text reads:


This 40-story tower rises from a dense, narrow street to take its place among the tall buildings of Lower Manhattan. The 300 key limited service hotel building includes ground floor retail uses. The eight-story street wall permits larger floor plates and suite configurations.


From an interview in Hotels Magazine (http://www.gkapc.com/pdf/2008/04_11_2008_Hotel_Magazine.pdf) (April 2008) with Kaufman:



HOTELS: How do you keep the hotels within the best possible context of the neighborhood they are in?

Kaufman: In the downtown financial district we have a site with some existing small historic rowhouses we are preserving. We are building two separate towers that have the vertical proportions of the classic skyscrapers to give this area its signature identity, rather than a large horizontal slab building. It makes a better business model and a better urban context.

*

HOTELS: You know New York very well. Do you infuse properties in various neighborhoods with style/feeling you have for a particular area, or rather with historical context?

Kaufman: Responding to a neighborhood is a way of giving a project an identity. Unlike some less complex places there is no single New York City style, image or context. But there is no one way of looking at a single neighborhood either, which is good, because in Chelsea, for instance, we have nine hotel projects.

:rolleyes:

lofter1
October 13th, 2008, 12:00 AM
... isn't 103 also slated for redevelopment of condos thereby blocking hotel windows?

DOF shows that 103 has sold all development rights to McSam.

No FAR left for the 103 lot so no condos can rise there.

kitten
October 13th, 2008, 12:06 AM
thanks lofter! so doesn't it make sense that sam would then want to raze 103, buy morans to raze, and build on all 3 lots?

Stroika
October 13th, 2008, 12:33 AM
Just to check, was the parking garage the building that was knocked down at 99 Washington Street? I'm trying to keep a tally of everything that gets destroyed by the McTerrorist group in its seemingly never-ending drive to leave us with slices of Virginia Beach across Manhattan. If Chang destroyed a parking garage, good for him. If not, let the hounds tear him limb from limb...

kitten
October 13th, 2008, 12:39 AM
sorry lofter! got confused- when you said development rights of 103, my brain went automatically to 105/107 because it's vacant and other speculation...

lofter1
October 13th, 2008, 01:03 AM
...was the parking garage the building that was knocked down at 99 Washington Street?

Yes. The NE corner of Washington / Rector (99 - 101 Washington) was a multi-level parking structure.

At the other end of the block at 111 Washington there was another parking structure.

Both are now gone.

lofter1
October 15th, 2008, 11:13 PM
McSam To Climb Contextually Tall At 99 Washington

CURBED (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/10/15/mcsam_to_climb_contextually_tall_at_99_washington. php#more)
October 15, 2008

http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_10_99WashGKA1a.JPG
The McSam hotel empire's latest addition to the NYC skyline.

Hotel kingpin Sam Chang has bought up a big bag of pricey air rights from his neighbors
down at Washington and Rector. On that corner at 99 Washington Street,
Mr. McSam plans to put up skinny new hotel, supposedly in the style of classic
downtown skyscrapers. (It's also a stone's throw from the W at 123 Washington
that's going to sex up FiDi big time (http://curbed.com/archives/2007/10/29/revealed_w_hotel_will_sex_up_the_fidi.php).) Chang's McSam gang (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/05/14/sam_chang_gobbles_up_more_fidi_property.php) will join with their
usual partner in construction, architect Gene Kaufman (http://curbed.com/www.gkapc.com), to give birth to something
they're calling Radisson Financial.

It's not 'sexy,' it's just like a 'classic skyscraper,' actually. >>

Here's Kaufman's take on the situation:
In the downtown financial district we have a site with some existing
small historic rowhouses we are preserving. We are building two separate
towers that have the vertical proportions of the classic skyscrapers
to give this area its signature identity ...
That second tower is yet another McSam-Kaufman concoction set to rise
at 50 Trinity Place (http://curbed.com/archives/2007/07/19/more_mcsamming_down_at_50_trinity_place.php). Although the two hotels are strikingly similar, please
try not to confuse the "separate towers." For this one on Washington, the
valuable air rights came from the little terracotta-covered building next door
at number 103 Washington, home to Moran's bar. Others were transferred
from the Greenwich Hospitality gang which runs the Pussycat Lounge (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/05/02/strippers_saved.php) on a parcel
to the northeast at 96 Greenwich Street. Still more development rights were
snatched up from two little sites just to the east at 94 and 94A Greenwich.
All four of those low-rise properties are on the Calendar for Landmarks protection (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyBrowseByBBLServlet?requestid=4&allborough=1&allblock=53).
Their preservation will allow the new McSam to rise alone, climbing tall without any
immediate neighbors to get in the way of the guests' windows in that 325-room (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=7&passjobnumber=104592175&passdocnumber=01)
hotel tower. Which means that folks will be able to see this one from all angles.
Time to step it up, Gene. The girls at the Pussycat will be watching.

· Projects > Commercial > 99 Washington (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/10/15/www.gkapc.com) [Gene Kaufman, Architect website]
· More McSamming Down at 50 Trinity Place (http://curbed.com/archives/2007/07/19/more_mcsamming_down_at_50_trinity_place.php) [Curbed]
· Strippers Saved! (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/05/02/strippers_saved.php) [Curbed]
· Property Browse by Boro/Block/Lot - Block 53 (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyBrowseByBBLServlet?requestid=4&allborough=1&allblock=53) [NYC DOB]

http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_10_99WashGKA2.JPG
A tax map from 1916, when New York was in the pink.

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From the bowels of the NYC Department of Finance, a delineation of the lots.

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One of the many pages dealing out the air rights.

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The Survey for the Moran's building at 103 Washington Street.

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The details outlining the Moran-McSam relationship.

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The Survey for 96 Greenwich Street, home to the de-FARred Pussycat Lounge.

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The other McSam hotel at 50 Trinity Place, similar but not the same.

99 washington

JSsocal
October 16th, 2008, 01:35 AM
NOOOOOO!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad: why is that getting built there! NOOOOOO not that!:mad::mad::mad: What happened to that cool glass tower rendering that we saw earlier. What happened, Noo, I was really liking this one. My only hope is now for the other towers in the area 50 West, W. There are enough of these brick and glass towers in downtown... *sigh* Alright, this one needs to be REALLY Classy

scumonkey
October 16th, 2008, 01:39 AM
REALLY Classy
Words not in McSam/Hackman vocabulary

Derek2k3
October 16th, 2008, 10:29 AM
NOOOOOO!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad: why is that getting built there! NOOOOOO not that!:mad::mad::mad: What happened to that cool glass tower rendering that we saw earlier. What happened, Noo, I was really liking this one. My only hope is now for the other towers in the area 50 West, W. There are enough of these brick and glass towers in downtown... *sigh* Alright, this one needs to be REALLY Classy

The two hotels posted above are not 111 Washington, they're going up on sites nearby.

antinimby
October 16th, 2008, 12:20 PM
Shoot, with all the better projects around the city stopping or cancelled, that McSam turd goes ahead. :mad:

A very cruel twist of fate.

Stroika
October 16th, 2008, 12:31 PM
Regarding McSam's financing during the credit mess: Money is never a problem when you've struck a deal with the Devil.

Or perhaps the rumors are true that Sam Chang takes money from the Iranian and North Korean governments to destroy New York City as a place where people may actually want to be...

JSsocal
October 16th, 2008, 06:40 PM
The two hotels posted above are not 111 Washington, they're going up on sites nearby.

Okay... Phew I Have read it more closely, alright for that I am relieved. It just appeared on the 111 Washington Thread, so I got a little scared, Im really liking his one:cool:
But Anyway this is still Mcsam crappola!!!! going up right there!!:mad::mad::mad::mad: God this will look awful:mad::mad:

Jaffster
October 17th, 2008, 07:28 AM
99 Washington Street should have its own thread. Anyway, there is some activity at 111 Washington. The parking lot is closed, and there has been some heavy equipment at the site. They took down the fence surrounding the property.

lofter1
October 17th, 2008, 09:45 AM
It does seem that the 99 - 101 Washinigton Street project (McSam / Radisson Financial) merits its own thread. If nothing else it would halp to avoid some of the confusion that has popped up here between that one and the 111 Washington project.

philvia
October 17th, 2008, 01:58 PM
so the mcsam is building a housing project on a "prominent corner in the heart of the nation's financial center"

ugh

Stroika
October 17th, 2008, 03:09 PM
^^ I aspire to either find the capital, or convince people who have found the capital, to buy up every McSam building in the city at some point 20 years down the road and destroy them all. This grotesque chapter in the city's architectural history should be blotted out as soon as possible.

scumonkey
October 17th, 2008, 03:46 PM
Why wait.....take 'em down NOW!;)

Stroika
October 17th, 2008, 08:00 PM
Well, I invite anyone to buy up Sam Chang and tear down everything he owns right now, but my few thousand dollars won't be doing anytime this year, unfortunately.

antinimby
October 18th, 2008, 01:42 PM
99 Washington Street should have its own thread. McSam-Kaufmans shouldn't have individual project threads. They don't deserve it.

Just put them in the McSam thread here (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12154&page=15) or put them in the "Kaufman...kough, kough...hack, hack" thread here (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13617&page=28).

We don't need McSam-Kaufman litter all over the place. Put all the garbage where they belong: in the dumpsters.

lofter1
October 18th, 2008, 07:11 PM
That ^ is a very valid point.

Keep the trash in one bag.

Jaffster
October 18th, 2008, 10:48 PM
Does anyone know when they will start building here?

kitten
October 26th, 2008, 09:48 PM
i just mentioned this on the 123 washington thread, but apparently the PA is putting trailers on the 111 lot for a WTC 'staging area'. anyone know the details? we know this lot was poised for development w/ a rendering on the bcn development web site- maybe the financial crisis is causing swift shifts in plans????

BrooklynLove
October 26th, 2008, 11:02 PM
I had the same general thought - that the lot is being used to facilitate work elsewhere.

GreenwichBoy
October 27th, 2008, 09:41 PM
October 24, 2008 Trailers on Liberty Street Moving South

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/images/news/102308_130Libertytraile_160.jpg There are plans to widen the Liberty Street sidewalk in the coming weeks The trailers situated atop the sidewalk shed outside 130 Liberty Street (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/130_liberty_street__77170.aspx) are planned to be moved this weekend. On Saturday, October 25th, Port Authority (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/global/contact/#nys) crews will use a crane to remove and relocate the trailers, now on Liberty Street between Greenwich and Washington Street, to the vacant lot at 111 Washington Street. With the trailers moved, the Port Authority plans to widen the Liberty Street sidewalk in the coming weeks.

From: Lower Manhattan.info

WestT
November 8th, 2008, 06:10 PM
Unfortunately as 2 Black Dog posted earlier on 111-115 Washington St thread, the Nassi project is dead, most likely they will lose $5-7 mil deposit, Brauser is legally entitled to keep the down payment. I would rather have seen it go thru, now with the economy and the future collapse of lux condos etc, it will be a long time before anything becomes feasible.
No one likes bad news, this will make the Lindsey days look like a cakewalk. Too much leverage period, on everything. I wish us all well with our new Prez. Let's just hope it's only a 3 year recession and not the other dreaded d word.

ItstheBeat
November 8th, 2008, 08:22 PM
Im glad this is dead. maybe this sites next incarnation will have a better design backed by a better developer.