327-345 w 37th + 310-345 w 38th/Developer Glenwood Management Corp.

[scumonkey]

I live on 38th st btwn 8th & 9th ave's (seems like the whole block is coming down!), and was wondering
if anybody has seen any renderings of what is about to be built here?
I asked about this site quite awhile ago....Lofter (thank you),proved to be a wealth of info
...Curbed picked up on the thread:
http://www.curbed.com/archives/2007/06/27/glenwood_stitches_together_a_parcel_in_the_garment _center.php
But I have not been able to find out anything else since then?!
I do know that all the demo seems complete...
pics from my back terrace
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN3979.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN4113.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN4143.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/gfhjguj-3.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN4119.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/iii-1.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/k-2.jpg

Looks like they are already starting to dig below grade for
the foundation...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/dscn0002.jpg

view from 38th st looking south...looky- another new building rising on 36th as well!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/ohhnoo.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN3967.jpg

[scumonkey]

Also more going up on the next block west (between 9th and 10th)
OH GOD THE NOISE all the noise this contruction makes!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/hhhhhhhhhhhhh.jpg

Not to mention SAM CHANG mega POS's across the street on 39th
right in front of me!
(photo taken from 9th)
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/twinVomit.jpg

from the New York Observer back in April:
GLENWOOD MANAGEMENT, THE FAMED UPPER East Side developer and landlord, is planning a 550,000-square-foot rental complex on the West Side near Ninth Avenue, a source said. The development site will stretch over a plot between 37th and 38th streets and Eighth and Ninth avenues. The new complex, which could be anywhere from 20 to 25 stories tall, will develop over an area dotted with parking lots and small buildings.
Last week, Glenwood Management acquired a parcel of land for the development site at 310 West 38th Street for $59 million. The sale was recorded in city records.
If you’re a developer with a familiar name, it’s best to jump on the West Side bandwagon right now. The Elghanayans, Joseph Moinian, Related, Brookfield Properties and now the East Side mainstay Glenwood are all building there.
Though, in fairness, Glenwood has been breaking free from its Upper East Side roots for a few years now. The company has developments in Murray Hill, Tribeca, the Upper West Side and the financial district.

With all this talk...Where are the renderings?

[scumonkey]

I guess I got my answer....
I talked to someone named Gary at Glenwoods main office this morning.
I was told that the designs hadn't been drawn up yet, that it would be several more months before they were,
and that when some designs had been drawn up they would go before the community board for comments etc.
What is taking them so long?
They started digging here over 4 months ago!
Another project was started at the end of the next block- well AFTER this one was started- HOWEVER....
The foundation there has already begun, and building is well under way?!?!

[lofter1]

They may want to get some foundation work done by a certain date which might allow the developer to get various tax benefits, etc.

[Hamilton]

Great posts Scumonkey. Keep the scoops and pics coming.

[scumonkey]

Our coop was advised today that at the construction site, they were going to start building piles in two weeks and the construction noise will be VERY LOUD for one month or so..
(as if it weren't loud enough already)!
How can they start driving piles (if as they claim) they don't even have any renderings
of the building planned for the site?

[krulltime]

Usually with rental towers in Manhattan, there is no need to post renderings since there is so much demand for rentals and they are probably and usually architecturaly lame (just like some hotels). With condo towers on the other hand, they are usually trying to attract the buyers, so their towers make more of statement in design. So renderings do float around.

[scumonkey]

found out that our local CB4 will be discussing this (and others)
at the next meeting....maybe we will finally see what it's supposed
to look like?!
...will be discussed at the next community board 4 land use committee . It is usually a good opportunity to view plans and meet the developer. Feel free to attend.
OCTOBER 10 - Clinton/Hell's Kitchen Land Use
6:30 p.m.
John Jay College - 899 10th Ave., 6th Floor, Rm 630T (b. 58th / 59th) [map (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=899%20Tenth%20Avenue%20New%20York,%20NY)]
1. Tishman hotel and inclusionary housing project on Eighth Ave. bet. 43rd & 44th - initial presentation
3. Inclusionary Housing application - Tower 37 - 350 W. 37th St.
4. Inclusionary Housing application - Rockrose - 505 W. 37th St.[tentative]
5. Pietrasanta, 683 Ninth Ave. at 47th St., ULURP # N 050568 for new enclosed sidewalk cafe.
6. Street Tree Planting Text Amendment - N 080081 ZRY and Yards Text Amendment - N 080078 ZRY

[krulltime]

Ok yes too much going on around here. But here is some stuff...

Hudson Mews:

http://www.pbase.com/image/86796193.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/86796194.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/86796196.jpg


Two 18-story buildings
736,949 gross sq. ft.
30,000 sq. ft. of public open space
New York, NY, 809 Units

This joint venture with the Port Authority of NY/NJ is an 80/20 residential property that contains 15,000 sq. ft. of retail and community facility space and nearly 41,000 sq. ft. of parking which will have approximately 200 parking spaces. There is a large public open space component to the property. The project will be partly financed with New York State Housing Finance Agency tax-exempt bonds.

http://www.dermotcompany.com/project_item.cfm?image=1&projectid=6



The Dermot Company said it would start building its $450 million Hudson Mews project, two 18-story buildings over platforms on opposite sides of 37th Street, west of Ninth Avenue, along with a public park. Stephen Benjamin, a principal at Dermot, said the company was completing its financing and negotiations with the Port Authority to buy development rights over ramps leading to the Lincoln Tunnel.

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showpost.php?p=145942&postcount=1311

[krulltime]

Here is the thread for the other projects that are close by...

43/24 story towers at 37th/10th (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14749)

[antinimby]

^ I'll do you one better and put up an all-inclusive map. :p

http://www.observer.com/files/images/legend.jpg

[scumonkey]

Well it's been loud and slow going down in da pit,
(which has gotton quite deep).
They found a pool of oil that had to be cleared,
(since Bovis was working down there who knows
how legally it was done)?!
They dug under the building to the east (A) and
had to shore it up.
Looks like some foundation has finally been poured
on the 38th street side (B).
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/pit-1.jpg
Down at the corner of my building bedrock surfaced
and they've been drilling and hammering for weeks trying
to break it up and get it out.
7AM and it sounds like a war zone :eek:
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/bangBangBang.jpg
I was told by a member of community board 4 that Glenwood had
shown them a rendering BUT...
They have since changed it and have shown no one the new design :mad:

[lofter1]

As shown on the map above your neighboring Glenwood project (Number 11) will be jsut an itty-bitty narrow thing ;)

What could be the problem :confused:

[scumonkey]

OMG they are digging still deeper and looks like they hit a water main!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/watermain.jpg

[lofter1]

A water main? Consider the possibility of an underground stream ...

As can be seen on the Viele "Sanitary & Topographic Map" of Manhattan (section below), at one time a stream ran through the part of that block where the Glenwood project is rising (between what is now 37th & W. 38th east of Ninth Avenue).

That stream was part of a series of streams which came together near today's intersection of Tenth / W 40th. That larager stream then ran to the Hudson (or North) River, passing through a marshy area and entering the River at what, back then, was the shoreline in the vicinity of Eleventh / W 42nd (where River Place II is now rising) ...

***

[scumonkey]

That's very interesting Lofter...Thank YOU!!!
now for an update.
I just got this email from my neighbor who sits
on CB4:
Lots of you have asked updates on this building. It is coming up for approval at the community board full meeting on Wednesday: this is a good opportunity to get all your questions answered since it is the final plan.
DATE: February 6, 2008
TIME: 6:30 pm
PLACE: Fulton Center Auditorium - 119 Ninth Ave. (b. 17/18) 310-328 W. 38th Street (Glenwood Management) - ULURP Nos. N070462ZRM and 070463ZSM re zoning text amendment for street wall and special permit for 400-space public parking garage

Further the developers are asking approval for a special exception to add 400 parking spaces
As we all know , 37th street si a traffic nightmare: with the Ptretzel trucks blocking acccess, the Lincon tunnel entrance , the 700 occupancy venue across the street, this is the last place to add to parkign capacity that will compound congestion at peak hours .
With the possible closure of 33rd street . this is not the time to add a 400 car flow to peak hour traffic in this street.

To our knowledge the existing garage at 36th and 9th , 42nd and 9th and the two remaining garages on 37th on that block are not full during the day . therefore there is not a demonstrated need and a lot of adverse impact

I recommend you all show up and speak strongly in opposition to granting this exception . ( sign up to speak at the entrance , you will be called – you

[antinimby]

Do not allow them to add that many parking spaces. It may make it convenient for their residents but end up hurting the city in the long run.

Everything should be done to make it harder for people driving (and parking) their cars in the city in order to discourage it.

I'd bet that's also the reason why they've dug so deep: multiple underground parking levels.

[lofter1]

I believe it is an aspect of current City Planning philosophy that new residential buildings MUST include off-street parking -- particularly as so many parking lots / structures are being developed and parking spaces are being lost.

However I agree that all this does is encourage folks to own cars / drive in Manhattan.

Stupid is a stupid does.

[scumonkey]

Well it looks like Glenwood is gonna get it's way......:(
I got to talk to the yard foreman today and he politely answered all my questions!
The building is actually gonna be Two towers, one on 37th, and one on 38th. Each tower will be 25 stories tall.
They will be built right up to the lot lines Blocking all windows in peoples homes that have lived and worked here for years.
They will each have setbacks on the street sides, but NOT on the property lines (where all the windows are).
The foundation for the 38th st side should be done by the end of the month or the first week of March.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/foundation.jpg
The foundation for the 37th st side should be finished by the end of April....
I'm sooo glad I don't live in this building which will lose ALL
it's windows except on the front!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/gettingThere.jpg
IF...... they don't run into any more unexpected delays
(like the bedrock -not thought to be so close to the surface- or the underground running water-haha).
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/whatAmess.jpg

I should be able to reach out and touch the damn building from my terrace :mad:
Across the street on 37th, another building - a rental 28 stories tall, got a sweet stop work order for the entire site!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/another-freightmare.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/stopWork.jpg

[alibrot]

we need as many parking spaces as we can get, especially with all the residential buildings going up and taking away virtually every open air lot. we've lost 1000s of spaces over the past couple years.

part of living on the west side means you dont have to pay 700 for a monthly space like you would on the east side. it means you can travel outside the city without renting a car each time. its not only for visitors to the city.

the cost of parking is already a barrier. if you dont like traffic on your street dont live on a feeder road to the lincoln tunnel. there are many streets in this city with normal traffic patterns.

some people cant deal with any change, even if its good for the neighborhood. more residents, more stores, more foot traffic brings nicer surroundings. loss of lot line windows are unfortunate, but these windows, even if they have been around for a long time, are lost all the time to new construction. thats why there are so many blank walls that everyone on this board complains about.

[scumonkey]

we need as many parking spaces as we can get, especially with all the residential buildings going up and taking away virtually every open air lot. we've lost 1000s of spaces over the past couple years.Maybe but......
they don't all have to be within a few blocks of each other! There are already a lot of parking garages and lots on these blocks-
more than our fair share. So many in fact that none of them is EVER close to being full.

if you dont like traffic on your street dont live on a feeder road to the lincoln tunnelI personaly Don't... I live on 38th st- which travels east- AWAY from the Lincoln tunnel.
Also, if you do some research, you would probably find that that the present entrance to the tunnel (and all of 9th ave in Hell's Kitchen), is about to be reconfigured!
Here is a link to help you start that research:
http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/05/07/choose-your-own-hells-kitchen/

[antinimby]

Too bad the city teared down the Ninth Ave. El and never replaced it with a subway line of some sort.


http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2507186.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=268A05FD2366B50E80D834F8FDE35E28A55A1E4F32AD3138

[lofter1]

Yeah -- the one block walk to Eighth Avenue is a killer!

[stache]

Meow! ;)

[antinimby]

lofter, the walk to Eighth for someone on Ninth isn't a big deal but for people on Tenth and Eleventh, it then becomes somewhat of a hindrance.

A line on Ninth not only serves its immediate block on which it's on but the two or three blocks on either side of it as well.

I can tell you now that the west side wouldn't have been such a wasteland of parking lots, auto repair shops, etc. for that many years if there was a subway line running through it.

[baxters dad]

Does anyone know anything about the rental on the south side of W37th st across from the Glenwood site?

Also, any info on potential services (ie. grocery stores, etc) in any of the new buildings going up on W 37th/38th?

Is the hotel going up on W36th st b/w 8th and 9th a McSam or is it a 'nicer' hotel?

Is there any hope of losing our neighborhood crack den, I mean 'Postgraduate Center' and getting something interesting in the old church on W36th between 8th and 9th?

thanks

[scumonkey]

Does anyone know anything about the rental on the south side of W37th st across from the Glenwood site?If your talking about that other construction pit .....
it will be a 28 story rental apartment building.
Nothing has been done there for quite a while- this may have something to do with it.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/stopWork.jpg

Also, any info on potential services (ie. grocery stores, etc) in any of the new buildings going up on W 37th/38th?
No they are trying to change the zoning to put in a large (unwanted) parking garage instead.:o
Is the hotel going up on W36th st b/w 8th and 9th a McSam or is it a 'nicer' hotel?It's a peter poon thang... here's the WNY link where this building is being discussed:
http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4913&page=43

Is there any hope of losing our neighborhood crack den, I mean 'Postgraduate Center' and getting something interesting in the old church on W36th between 8th and 9th?Hope is eternal ;)

[scumonkey]

38th street side foundation poured and floors started going up...
37th st. side foundation work finally started.
They moved the exit ramp from the center to the corner.
isn't that one of those pesky drills seen all over the place?)
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/corner-drilling.jpg

They also have taken over every lane but one with their "sidewalk" shed on 37th st.
Now when a cement truck rolls up to unload ALL traffic must come to a dead stop!

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/pit-3.jpg

[sfenn1117]

Is this it....found on sbjgroup.com, 328 west 38th

http://i25.tinypic.com/dbtixj.jpg

http://sbjgroup.com/

[scumonkey]

OHhhh MYYyyyyy GODDDddddesssesss!
I have been looking for a rendering of this building for over ONE YEAR!!!! :eek:
That is definitely the space, but I was told the architects were Costas condovomit??????
This is VERY interesting, considering what is shown is only 1/2 of the dug foundation-
which consumes much of this block on 37th st. as well!
Thank you for this BIG piece of the puzzle.;)

[antinimby]

That does have some Kondylis-like traits to it, which is to say it is quite unexceptional and plain.

By the way, I thought there would be two separate towers, one on 37th and one on 38th?

I know the developer got the greenlight for a parking garage but will the ground floor also have retail as well?

[sfenn1117]

It's classic glenwood with the bay windows, so it is most likely it.

[antinimby]

I think Stephen Jacobs was inspired on this one by Kondylis' 10 Barclay St.

[Hamilton]

Yeah -- the one block walk to Eighth Avenue is a killer!

One long block can definitely be the straw to break the camel's back for someone on 10th or 11th, or on 9th, but, say, 6 or 7 streets and an avenue from an 8th Ave station

[scumonkey]

On 37th st. it doesn't look like they will make the end of April deadline for finishing
off the foundation?! And just why would they have put those steel beams in there at
such weird angles?
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/WTF.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/getting-there.jpg

And they have now
completely blocked off 37th to ALL traffic!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/veryblocked.jpg


http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/37thblocked.jpg

38th st side has finally started to rise above street level.
They have blocked all of that street off except one lane,
for their concrete pumping trucks!:o

[antinimby]

Those steel beams are to hold up the wall, otherwise the street above could cave in.

[scumonkey]

Today they pulled down the crane on 38th at 10th and,
at the same time they put up a crane at 327-345 38th!
parked on the street
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/crane-1.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/parked.jpg

prep work
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/men.jpg

setting up the ramps
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/ramp.jpg

all lined up!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/start.jpg

easy does it...notice the ramp wood lifting up on the left near
the other truck?!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/ramping.jpg

finally....on the platform!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/platformed.jpg

[scumonkey]

who cares if you need to sleep....we gots work to do!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/midnight-madness.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/first-lift.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/guiding-into-place.jpg

make way for #2
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/number2.jpg

now how about some oil tanks?!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/1st-oil-tank.jpg

watch that lamp post!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/watch-that-lightpole.jpg

first of two...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/guiding-into-home.jpg

[scumonkey]

two days later...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/wastingnotime.jpg

[philvia]

lol well at least they seem quick with things...

you have an interesting vantage point :cool:

[scumonkey]

lol well at least they seem quick with things...I'll say...from today- wait till I go out front for a new pic.
They are already up to the 3rd floor!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/outback.jpg
There also seems to be some new controversy about that 400 space parking garage Glenwood wants to get a variance for.
It seems our beloved Hells Kitchen is OVERRUN by parking garages and, permits for over 2000
additional parking spaces have been applied for by developers since our neighborhoods zoneing laws have been changed:mad:
They still have to go before (I can't remember which one), some city board to get approval- but that hasn't stopped them
from going ahead with their constructing it anyway!

[scumonkey]

Still haven't gotten approval for or, the variance needed to
build a 400 car parking garage - but that hasn't stopped
them from building it anyway!
Here the access ramp to the bottom floor is being poured. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sauer/angry-smiley-014.gif http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sauer/angry-smiley-025.gif

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/parkingRamp.jpg

[scumonkey]

watch out!! The first segment of one of those cranes was
set into place today- just yards from my terrace http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-040.gif
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/first-segment.jpg

[scumonkey]

and so it begins.....
the first truckload of tower segments arrives
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/byTheTruckload.jpg

and they start piling up- some of them look like they could use some rust maintenance?!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/moreSegs.jpg

[lofter1]

Have you had a recent conversation with your insurance person?

[scumonkey]

Might be a good idea seeing that they only poured the concrete foundation for the crane last night!
I also saw no inspectors or other official looking people around while they were anchoring the base.
Also, doesn't it take days for concrete to reach full strength?

[antinimby]

There's going to be another new face coming to join this block party...


JV Plans $90M Hotel Development


By Natalie Dolce
Last updated: June 26, 2008 (http://www.globest.com/news/1187_1187/newyork/171881-1.html) 01:27pm

NEW YORK CITY-HREC Investment Advisors successfully represented West 37th Street Owner LLC and Englewood, CO-based Stonebridge Realty Advisors Inc. in formulating a joint venture to develop a 220-room select service hotel on West 37th St., between 8th and 9th Avenue. Estimated project cost is $90 million and debt and equity placements are nearing completion, a testament to the strength of the project and the development team in a difficult capital market.

The project is currently being contemplated as boutique hotel or a primary brand in the select service category. This will be Stonebridge’s first project in Manhattan. Kevin Mahoney, COO of Stonebridge, tells GlobeSt.com that the address of the site is 307-311 W. 37th St.

Mahoney explains that they will begin construction "by year end," and expects to have construction completed in 2010. He tells GlobeSt.com that the total square footage of the hotel will be roughly 96,500 sf, noting that "the number of stories is still to be determined."

Mahoney says that the financing is coming from a "well capitalized equity source and bank financing," but did not further detail specifics. Currently in the location is a three-story distribution center that "will be razed."
Mahoney says that the firm has been looking in the New York City market for approximately two years.

Navin Dimond, president and CEO of Stonebridge Cos. says in a prepared statement that "Stonebridge continues to grow and we have been looking at the New York market for some time, but felt this project had all the right ingredients in terms of location, concept and upside potential of the area."

Dimond continues that Stonebridge plans to grow its platform on a national basis and looks forward to doing additional projects in New York. "HREC’s ability to bring us an off-market deal was a key factor in structuring an equitable deal for us and our JV partner."

Geoff Davis, president of HREC Investment Advisors says in a prepared statement that, HREC has worked extensively with Stonebridge in other markets and "expect they will be very successful on the big stage of New York, they know how to get a project done on time and on budget." Davis was unavailable to answer further queries by deadline.

Copyright © 2008 ALM Properties, Inc.

[lofter1]

... another new face coming to join this block party...



> Plans $90M Hotel Development

... West 37th Street Owner LLC and Englewood, CO-based Stonebridge Realty Advisors Inc. in formulating a joint venture to develop a 220-room select service hotel on West 37th St., between 8th and 9th Avenue.

... the address of the site is 307-311 W. 37th St.

... Currently in the location is a three-story distribution center that "will be razed."


A few weeks back I noticed these old piles of brick were being emptied out and readied for the exterminator ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/8th%20Avenue/307%20311%20W%2037th/307W37_01a.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/8th%20Avenue/307%20311%20W%2037th/307W37_01c.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/8th%20Avenue/307%20311%20W%2037th/307W37_01b.jpg

307 - 311 w 37

[scumonkey]

Oh Goodie!
And with the new 27 story apartment building also going up at 346 w 37th st between 8th and ninth-
the noise and dust we're having to put up with will become unbearable! :o

[antinimby]

Don't turn NIMBY on us now scumonkey. Be a trooper! :D

By the way, are both of those red-brick, 3 story structures part of the plot?

The one on the right with the ornamentation is nice and should be restored while the plain looking garage on the left can go.

[lofter1]

And isn't there another parking lot on the south side of 37th closer to Eighth Avenue that hasn't yet been claimed?

Come now: What's 3-4 years of constant noise and dirt when compared with the glory of living in the heart of Manhattan?

[scumonkey]

Don't turn NIMBY on us now scumonkey.NEVER! (Unless it's another McSam)
And isn't there another parking lot on the south side of 37th closer to Eighth Avenue that hasn't yet been claimed?Yes there is BUT- that's 346 and it's claimed with a 27 story rental (already digging foundation after stop work order recently lifted). There are however, two more lots on the south side of 37th....one right in the middle of the block, and
one right across from 307-311.:eek:
All this in the newly created historic garment district zoneing thingy.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/lots.jpg

[scumonkey]

Up, Up and Away!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/lifting.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/watchit.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/almost.jpg

[ramvid01]

Thanks for the updates but I gotta say that crane peice is either really dirty or really really rusty. :rolleyes:

[NYC4Life]

Let's hope it is just dirty and not rusted. No more accidents!

[scumonkey]

really REALLY rusty! http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-023.gif
and they were welding something back onto it
before they installed it.

[lofter1]

yesterday ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/8th%20Avenue/W%2037%2038%20Glenwood/331W37_04a.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/8th%20Avenue/W%2037%2038%20Glenwood/331W37_04c.jpg

37 38

[antinimby]

The dude with the white hardhat sitting on the top segment sure is brave.

If that segment they're lowering should fall incorrectly or swing too much, he'd get squashed like a bug.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/watchit.jpg

[antinimby]

I may have forgotten but do we know what 346 37th looks like?

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/lots.jpg

[lofter1]

346 W 37:

DOB Shows New Building Plan Exam DISAPPROVED (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=2&passjobnumber=104626031&passdocnumber=01) on 5.20.08

Architect: AVINASH MALHOTRA ARCHITECTS (http://www.akmarch.com/)

That firm ^ claims responsibility for 2 Gold (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4372&highlight=gold) and the dull + dreary Plaza West (http://newyork.bryansrentals.com/rent/44.html) (Rockrose, 1990) at 444 West 35th (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=plazawest-newyorkcity-ny-usa)

Proposed for 346 W 37th

Occupancy Classification: J2 - RESIDENTIAL
Construction Classification: 1-B
Multiple Dwelling Classification: HAEA
Building Height (ft.): 250
Building Stories: 27
Dwelling Units: 207
Zoning Floor Area (sq.ft.): 201,798

[scumonkey]

Woke up this morning to the sounds of more crane building...
first the slewing unit went up
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/slewingunit.jpg

Then the flatbed
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/slewingunitbed.jpg

Next went the operators cab
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/operators-cab.jpg

and the motor
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/motorbox.jpg

then the counter weights
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/seatingCounterWeights.jpg

Opening up the cable pulley tension arm before lifting into place
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/opening-cable-pully-arm.jpg

Then they hoisted up the jib
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/lifting-the-jib.jpg

Seating the jib
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/seating-the-jib.jpg

Attaching the cables
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/attaching-the-cables.jpg

walking the jib for cable inspection
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/big-jib.jpg

Finished, ready for work on Monday
this sure is one big mutha!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/finished.jpg

[Skylimitone]

Thats a huge crane.

[scumonkey]

When first thing on a Saturday morning you have to call
(that worthless) 311 to complain about the illegal work being done!
Blocking off 37th St.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/blocking-the-road.jpg

Having to put up with the noise of a pumping truck
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/pumping.jpg

And watching 11 guys on the clock for a job only 3 guys actually work on!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/waste.jpg

[Skylimitone]

This is all one building? Am I correct?

[scumonkey]

you are correct!

[Skylimitone]

OK Thanks....for the crane pics too.

[scumonkey]

WTF are they trying to build here?
This has to be one of the most convoluted construction jobs
I've ever seen :confused:
This is on the first ground level, above the underground
parking ramps
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/wtf-1.jpg

The whole 37th street side is a jumbled, uneven layered mess of un-uniformity?!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/wtf2.jpg

[scumonkey]

...meanwhile, on the 38th st side- this thing is flying up!
old classy garment building gets a bland new neighbor.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/contrast.jpg

We long time residents are losing all of our windows:eek:
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/losing-windows.jpg

up to the 9th floor already
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/looking-east.jpg

[lofter1]

Looks like a loading dock going in (at the right side in that last pic) ^

[scumonkey]

They haven't been out working on this project for two days now.....?
Did something happen at this site, has a stop work order been handed down?:confused:
It's nice to have a few days of peace and quiet, without all
the construction dust blowing into my home!
But I want them to get it over with, and finish the damn
thing so my life can get back to normal.
Anyone know what gives?

[lofter1]

They read WNY? And decided to give you a break ;)

[chum]

What about all the people who work (in regular offices, travel agencies, garment center lofts etc) on West 36th, West 37th, West 38th between Eighth and Ninth?

It's tough enough for those of you who live there and have to put up with the early morning (and late night) noise and construction dust. But it can't be funny trying to run a regular business in the midst of all this. Have business tenants used all this chaos as a reason for breaking their leases and moved from the area? Or are they just hunkering down and swallowing the losses from reduced working days and employee absences. Seriously, would you like to work in one of those buildings for 8 hours a day while this is going on? And now they are saying that the 27 storey rental at 346 west 37th wll be finished "in 2010".. Two more years (at least)..

[scumonkey]

My building is still commercial space from the 6th floor down.
I haven't noticed anybody leaving the area...just the opposite!
(Well except for that sex club):D
I hear a lot of bit chen about it -but they're staying put.
The guy right under me has a book recording studio.
He can lose thousands if they shake our building or make
enough noise while he's recording.
He's not leaving-has no plans to.
However, if I had a space that was losing it's windows and
terrace (due to the local zoning changes that now allow it),
I would want out!;)
In the pic below....
All the air conditioners must be removed, all the windows
you can see (on this building and it's neighbors) are being
boarded up -all the way to the top. There will be no space
between the new and old and no set backs in the rear (unlike
all the other buildings in the area)
You can see the roof line from the previous building they tore
down in the pic below
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/Untitled-1-6.jpg

[elain]

Has anyone experienced hearing loss from all that continuous building noise?

And is it true that noise levels are only high during the first 6 (or is it 9?) months of construction?

I work over on west 36th between 8th and 9th aves.

The Poon hotel is apparently now in its later stages on 36th St, but that
27 storey site at 346 west 37th has launched in to a whole fresh drilling noisefest this week.

Just asking.. You all seem so well informed about the sites on these 3 streets (west 36, 37th and 38th). Thanks.

[scumonkey]

Has anyone experienced hearing loss from all that continuous building noise?No -but I have developed a lot of breathing problems from all the construction dust, (I like to leave my windows open).
Clean house and an hour later you can write your name
through the dust on the furniture.
is it true that noise levels are only high during the first 6 (or is it 9?) months of construction?That's when they use the heavy equipment to dig, blast, drill,
Pile drive...whatever-for the foundation, and makes the most noise.
After the foundation is installed, it's pretty much just the sound of hammers, saws, concrete trucks, and boisterous
construction workers.
If your in the area you better get used to it....
there is a lot more construction coming to the surrounding blocks!

[antinimby]

Garment District: Developers stitching up a residential neighborhood
The area around Garment District undergoes building blitz

http://s3.amazonaws.com/trd_three/images/45094/stitching_up_a_residential_midsize.jpg
Glenwood Management’s tower at 320
West 38th Street is under construction.


By Christopher Faherty
August 2008 (http://ny.therealdeal.com/articles/garment-district-developers-stitching-up-a-residential-neighborhood)

While residential development on the far West Side has generated significant buzz thanks to the planned redevelopment of the Hudson Yards, a lower-profile stretch of land just to the east appears to be quietly undergoing its own renaissance.

A handful of developers are working on a number of large-scale residential projects on the western periphery of the Garment District, a gritty swath of the city marked mostly by small factories, parking garages and nondescript showrooms.

Since most of the Garment District is zoned for manufacturing use only, developers have zeroed in on a five-block stretch, sandwiched between Eighth and Ninth avenues, that runs from 35th to 39th streets. The push to develop there comes three years after the area was incorporated into the Hudson Yards Land Use Plan, which permits residential building that was not allowed in the past.

Glenwood Management and Lalezarian Developers, both firms that predominantly work in New York City, have scooped up multiple buildings in the area to develop residential towers. In addition, several other residential projects appear to be on the horizon.

The big-time real estate players that have gobbled up properties on the far West Side in the vicinity of the Hudson Yards — Vornado Realty Trust, the Related Companies, Brookfield Properties and the Moinian Group — have so far not made investments in the area.

"Even though this neighborhood is walking distance from Times Square, it's not on the radar screen of the bigger firms," the chief economist at Eastern Consolidated, Barbara Byrne Denham, said. "Some firms are more willing to be pioneers than others."

Glenwood worked with Eastern Consolidated to purchase a parking garage, a parking lot and three walk-up buildings on 37th and 38th streets between Eighth and Ninth avenues, in a deal valued at around $80 million that closed in the beginning of 2007, according to Eric Anton, an executive managing director at Eastern Consolidated. Now, buildings have gone from the transaction phase to the brick-and-mortar phase, which is visibly starting to change the makeup of the neighborhood.

Construction has already begun on two 24-story towers, one on 37th Street and the other on 38th Street, that will have a total of 569 rental units made up of studio, one- and two-bedroom apartments. The towers, which are slated to open in June 2009, will each have their own lobby levels that will connect in the middle.

Glenwood's executive vice president, Gary Jacob, said despite the neighborhood's low profile, his company was drawn to the Garment District because of the value.

"It's hard to find land that's affordable," said Jacob, whose company has also invested in Yorkville on the Upper East Side and in the Financial District. "The neighborhood was about the only one where we could buy land that worked for our numbers."

Anton, who brokered the deal, said Glenwood purchased the properties for a little over $200 a square foot, which is about half the going rate in neighborhoods like Soho and Tribeca.

The second major development under way in the area is in the beginning phases of construction roughly across the street from the Glenwood tower on 37th Street.

Tower 37 LLC, an affiliate of Lalezarian Developers, received $94.5 million in financing from the New York State Housing Finance Agency to build a 27-story apartment building with 207 units, of which 42 will be reserved for low-income residents.

Even though zoning regulations restrict residential development to the western periphery of the Garment District, there is still potential for even more projects in the neighborhood, sources said.

Eastern Consolidated, which has done a lot of work on the perimeter of the Garment District, recently brokered a deal at 313-321 West 37th Street that Anton said has the makings for residential development. He would not identify the name of the buyer, saying only that he was a "wealthy individual."

Property records show that in November 2007, a company by the name of 313 LLC purchased a deed for $26.5 million and assumed a mortgage of $11.75 million for the properties. Building permit records show that the owner of the property is Morry Kalimian, who reports identify as a partner at Elk Investors, a company that also owns an office tower at 489 Fifth Avenue.

A phone call to Kalimian was not immediately returned.

Meanwhile, Massey Knakal Realty is shopping around another site in the area — a parking garage that cuts through 35th and 36th streets. The garage's owner is currently accepting proposals.

"There has been a decent level of interest in the site," the firm's chairman, Robert Knakal, said. "The biggest variable as to what is going to get built and what is going to get sold will be predicated on the financing that is available."

Knakal said because of the increasing difficulty smaller developers are facing when it comes to financing projects, the future of the neighborhood will likely depend on whether or not more firms with proven track records get in on development there.

A senior vice president at Corcoran, Susan Sears, who has been representing apartments in the area for 20 years, said that new development would raise awareness of the neighborhood's currently undervalued loft spaces.

Sears said loft spaces often sell for between $700 and $1,000 a square foot, which is roughly 25 to 40 percent less than similar spaces in more fashionable Manhattan neighborhoods, like neighboring Chelsea.

But even as some developers have looked to the west end of the Garment District as an increasingly plausible investment, prices appear to be dipping. Land values in the area have dropped by 10 to 15 percent since the height of the market, according to Knakal.

Still, residential developers aren't the only ones getting into the action in the Garment District's western end. A cluster of mid-priced hotels have either recently opened or are under construction. McSam Hotel Group and the Lam Group have plans this fall to open a combined five new hotels on 39th and 40th streets.

Whether or not more developers decide to build in the Garment District's west end, many believe the current projects alone will drastically change the neighborhood.

"This is a neighborhood that was, frankly, pretty crappy," said Anton. "In a couple of years you're going to see bunches of young people walking around, and [you're] going to see new restaurants."

© 2008 The Real Deal

[scumonkey]

The towers, which are slated to open in June 2009, will each have their own lobby levels that will connect in the middle. What a joke....this deadline will NEVER be met!
The work on this project is taking longer than the work
at ground zero.

What's up with this end of the building?
What looks like the word "HI" is made up of deep troughs.
(on each floor at this end so far)
They are laying tons of rebar, and constructing extra levels
between each flight here where the cement forms are brown?
There is not even enough room between the floors for a person to stand up.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN0018.jpg

Meanwhile...while our neighbors are losing windows and balconies due to the new rezoning,
We've noticed there is a considerable gap/space between the back of the new construction
and our homes. Anyone think they will fill it in, or are we getting a little luck and a bit of space between us?

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN0015.jpg

It would be nice if they laid out back gardens down there!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN0016-1.jpg

[scumonkey]

Today marks a first in eye rolling maneuvers for this project!
Something I have never seen before.
They poured a floor, and before they could even finish smoothing it out (or letting it dry),
They started installing the forms for the next floor?!
Look at the mess they are making!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/still-wet.jpg

Look at all the footprints in the cement!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/footprints.jpg

[scumonkey]

They started jacking the crane today.
If you've never seen it done now's your chance!
Just got the segments in, and they are waiting for the inspector to arrive so they can begin.
Will post pics as soon as they really get into it.

Looks like they're gonna wait till tomorrow- the inspector got hung up:rolleyes:
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/parts.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/waiting.jpg

[scumonkey]

Guess who showed up today?!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/inspectors.jpg

After everybody got into place, they hoisted up the first
segment
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/hoisting.jpg

Grabbing the segment for attachment
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/grabbin.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/ataching-1.jpg

Set up to slide into place
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/decoupling.jpg

concrete counter weight lifted before jacking
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/counterweight.jpg

Jacking begins
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/jackin.jpg

Jacked to height
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/jacked.jpg

Sliding in segment
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/backjack.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/sliding2.jpg

tight fit
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/tightfit.jpg


Bolt into place and begin next segment.... Crane now be Jacked, (boy does it sway)!

[antinimby]

Thanks for that visual presentation. I finally learned (and figured out) how that works.

How long did the whole process take, that is from the time they first lifted up the segment to when it was bolted in?

[scumonkey]

It took about 20-30 minutes per segment.
Most of that time was waiting for the hydraulic lifting- which was very slow.
There was also the tunnel traffic which had to be stopped
each time they lifted a segment.

[Skylimitone]

COOL. My first time watching the process was at Times Square Plaza. By the way Scumonkey, who is in your avatar.

[scumonkey]

By the way Scumonkey, who is in your avatar.
That would be Famous Australian ventriloquist doll Gerry Gee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip7ZFkgAd_A

[scumonkey]

new neighbor beginning to overshadow our building on the 38th st side.
I'm gonna lose my view of the ESB when the building
engulfs us from the 37th st side in a couple of weeks.:(

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/growing.jpg

[antinimby]

How much more to go? (By the way, is Rockrose's 505 W 37 St above ground yet?)

[HKPioneer]

antinimby on September 24th, 2008 10:38 PM:
<<By the way, is Rockrose's 505 W 37 St above ground yet?>>

Yes it is, like Sarah Palin & Russia, I can see it from my house.

The forms are up for the 2nd storey.

[scumonkey]

As a matter of fact...
I posted pics from today :D
http://74.200.90.114/forum/showthread.php?p=253535#post253535

[scumonkey]

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN00131.jpg

[sfenn1117]

^Nice picture showing both sides. Thanks.

[scumonkey]

Woke up to loud banging, and heavy revving of engines this morning.
Looked out a back window and this is what I saw at 346 w 37th...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/new-crane.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/hookup.jpg
One of the guys was singing God Bless America at
the top of his lungs the whole time he was working :rolleyes:
Now there are two tower cranes behind my home, and they are covering up all the surrounding
buildings with plywood to protect them from the falling debris.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/covered-up.jpg

The view I once had
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/lost-view2.jpg

Has been replaced by this
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/lost-view.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/ugggh.jpg

And they still have 15 more floors to build!:cool:
At least I still have my windows :o
37th steet is a place a a person in a car will definitely want to avoid
for the next two years!
(and the NIMBY"S over next to MOMA complain about blocked access due to construction of 1 building)

[lofter1]

I noticed this week that the Flag is flying atop the 38th Steet side.

Topped out over there it seems.

[scumonkey]

Yes , and they have even begun putting up the cheap prefab brick facade.

[antinimby]

Yeah, nowadays all of the precast bricks are all the same. From last week...

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3238/img0171sc5.jpg

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/1312/img0173rx1.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7130/img0174bz3.jpg

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3774/img0184ri3.jpg

[scumonkey]

They've been busy!
Looking west on 38th
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/8thAv.jpg

Straight up
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/front-2.jpg

Glass on the base part
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/moreGlass.jpg

Glass on the tower
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/glass.jpg

37th st
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/37.jpg

they finally connected the crane to the building!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/hookedUp.jpg

37th st Raising fast
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/wholeShebang.jpg

[scumonkey]

Backside
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/backside.jpg

Back corner (part of my new view- no more Empire state, One Penn,
or New Yorker Hotel :mad:)
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/backCorner.jpg

Please tell me they are just storing crane parts back here,
and not getting ready to put up a new crane?!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/craneParts.jpg

[lofter1]

But lots of windows to look into ...

[scumonkey]

I'll keep my fingers crossed that there will be something behind those windows worth looking at ;)

[NYC4Life]

You have nice views of the orange safety fencing :D