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ablarc
October 11th, 2007, 11:50 PM
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ENGLAND’S GREEN AND PLEASANT LAND

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?

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I have added illustrations and comments in italics to the following Los Angeles Times story partly about a nation honing its taste for the twee…My apologies to the author; his article is in there—complete-- among my barnacles.

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True Love of Country in England

City dwellers are moving to villages in record numbers. Rural economies benefit, but some say at too high a cost to the locals.

By John Daniszewski

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Four Views in Kingham (pop. 969)

KINGHAM, England — When Chris Harvey walks out of his house, Wiggals Corner, and ambles around the streets of his adopted village, the retired postman and amateur cider-maker rarely gets too far.

That’s because Chris has to pass right by all the villagers’ yardless front doors. The ones who want to chat can just step out and greet him:

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ablarc
October 11th, 2007, 11:51 PM
It's a "hullo" there, and "a bit of a chat" here, and once again he is convinced that he was right to move to Kingham, which he calls "the friendliest village in England." When he left his London suburb 32 years ago, his father said he was daft to head for the sticks, an hour and a half from the capital; he should buy a nice suburban semi-detached instead.

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A nice semi-detached, but not suburban.

What seemed crazy at the time has turned out to be a trend. Britain is now believed to be the only country in Europe that has a net migration out of, rather than into, its cities.

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Good rail connections[!], the high price of city homes, a quest for a better life, and Britons' inbred love of the countryside are some of the explanations offered for the exodus. But it is a double-edged sword.

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The English all squawk about the rail system, which in fact is superb; they should experience Amtrak.

Although the newcomers may bring a needed dollop of vitality to the countryside and in some cases create businesses and jobs, they also push up real estate prices for longtime residents.

As longtime resident of a neighborhood where newcomers pushed up real estate prices, I must express heartfelt thanks to those who did this for me, and I’m sure my fellow oldtimers feel the same. I can refinance my house every few years for dizzying amounts and am made prosperous beyond my wildest dreams; my neighbor buys a new Corvette every now and then. I look forward to even more pushing up of real estate prices with grateful anticipation.

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Some villages have ceased to be real communities; rather, they have become picture-book places inhabited by people who commute elsewhere for work and don't take an active role in local life.

This is a somewhat difficult phenomenon to illustrate, since it doesn’t show up much in photos; buildings look about the same whether the occupant is a commuter or not. On those rare occasions when new suburban development is allowed in England, however, the difference is evident from the air. Here the road separates an old village (far right) with its idiosyncratic development pattern, from the newer suburb with its looped spaghetti street pattern and its ritualized lots, reminiscent of suburbs everywhere, with their uniform setbacks and standardized fitting of house to lot. This is a pretty benign example, but Suburbia nonetheless:

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Meanwhile, farming, the original activity of the village, hardly figures at all in the employment picture today. Only 1.8% of Britons now farm, the lowest percentage in the nation's history. (Since the advent of tractors, fewer farmers are needed to work the land.) Small holdings increasingly are being bought up by the incoming urbanites and often are kept up merely to look pretty, or leased out to existing farm concerns. (Efficient agribusiness also doesn’t require lots of farmers.)

Britain’s return to rural tenant farming recreates feudal business patterns in which the squire rents out his land for agriculture. This pattern has been in relative abeyance for centuries and is now surging back. It’s pretty common in the U.S. too, but in the U.S. even more farms have reverted to second growth forest (scrub). This is the main reason England’s countryside looks so much prettier, with those sweeping vistas and wide-open spaces. (Rural Pennsylvania and parts of Maine are among the American exceptions that somewhat resemble England; in a few places you might even find a genuine village, though they’re now very rare in North America.)

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Farmland with manor house.

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Vast vistas.

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A squire’s house.

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A prosperous yeoman’s comfy cottage. Does the yeoman commute?

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This yeoman farms.

ablarc
October 11th, 2007, 11:52 PM
In Kingham, the bulldozer magnate Anthony Bamford has acquired much of the surrounding gentle hills and fields. For the last two years, his wife--(breaking ranks with those carpetbaggers who don’t get involved in local life)-- has added to the area's cachet with an eye-catching cafe and farm shop that sells prize-winning organic and gourmet foods, including artisan breads and cheeses, produce and sausages, mostly from the couple's own farms. (I’m sure the politely-amused oldtimers continue to shop where they always have.)

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An establishment for yuppies.

It's so fancy that some locals have dubbed it the "Harrods of the Cotswolds." In their literature, the proprietors say they are particularly proud of the "dog parking" area fitted with watering bowls. Although the prices may be high for many locals, the shop draws a steady stream of connoisseurs and tourists, and their pounds sterling, to Kingham.

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Pounds sterling are shipped principally on summer weekends in the pockets of (much too) brightly-colored clothing, and sometimes in shorts, which locals never wear. Pounds sterling are actually more attracted to towns than to villages.

This village of 700 (Kingham actually has 969, according to the census) people in Oxfordshire County, on the edge of England's famed Cotswolds region, has a history that dates at least to the Domesday Book of 1086. It was recently honored by Country Life magazine, the bible of the country set, as its favorite village in England, much to the amazement of some inhabitants.

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A chocolate-box village.

"I'm a bit surprised, because it isn't a chocolate-box type of village," parish council Chairman Keith Hartley told reporters after the accolade. "It's more of a working village than a tourist village. But it's got a great all-round atmosphere."

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A village is a very small but distinctly urban place surrounded by farmland (or, rarely, wilderness). It differs from Suburbia in that people walk. A frequent hallmark of a truly walkable small place is that there are no or few sidewalks. This is not an oversight or a hardship; you generally have the street to yourself when on foot. (Sure beats speed bumps.) This condition was noted and reproduced by the designers of Poundbury and Seaside, who are observers of the real rather than theoreticians of the abstract.





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ablarc
October 11th, 2007, 11:53 PM
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Unlike some villages that have lost all their indigenous life, Kingham still has a primary school, a small industrial area, a combined post office and shop, three pubs, a charming hotel built on the site of the town's medieval flour mill and a main-line railway station. Fairs and football on the village field are still part of the local scene.

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A village school and (abandoned) industry (what a great house this would make for a yuppie).

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Two village post office shops: Combe (left) and Evershot (right).

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Village Inns with pubs: the drinkers arrive (and more importantly, leave on foot; the travelers arrive by car (find the car park access in both photos). If a drinker arrives by car and proposes to leave while tanked (the English word for this condition is “pissed”), the publican can suggest a nice upstairs room for the night.

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Football in the Stroud Valley.

According to the Countryside Agency, a governmental body set up to attend to the concerns of rural residents, 14.1 million people — 28.5% of England's population — live in rural districts. The rural population has grown by 13.7% in the last two decades, with a quarter of the new arrivals settling in the southwestern countryside, an area that has remained bucolic despite its relative proximity to London.

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ablarc
October 11th, 2007, 11:55 PM
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Bucolic: wouldn’t it be nice if we could preserve a little more of that in our own poor, battered, abused, and sprawl-afflicted land. On every visit I marvel at how much better preserved and more scenic Europe’s countryside is (and don’t forget the cities.). We are said to inhabit “America the Beautiful”, but most of the beauty here has retreated to designated preserves; the National Parks are like ghettoes of beauty. And even these--as annual budget cuts begin to show effects-- grow increasingly threadbare.

The agency estimates that 115,000 people move to the country from urban areas each year. Since 2000, 352,000 more people have moved into England's rural areas than have left them; half of the migrants were between the ages of 25 and 44 — in other words, the prime working years.

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A migrant or just a tourist?

As novelist John Lanchester put it in a recent essay for the Guardian newspaper, an elegy for the less-spoiled countryside he remembers, "In other words, every year a city slightly bigger than Exeter disappears, and reappears wearing green wellies and complaining about the bypass. This has been going on for a decade and a half."

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A person “wearing green wellies” (rubber boots): a necessity in rural England’s moist climate.

At least you can walk in the British countryside without fear of being shot for trespass by an irate farmer. A system of country lanes allows you to hike (or even bike) from end to end of Britain without trespassing or using highways. Many take advantage of this fact to walk across fields, moors and downs as shortcuts from village to village.

Novelist Lanchester’s contention that the countryside was formerly less spoiled is technically somewhat true, but not by much; Britain’s virtual ban on rural development guarantees that. The novelist should visit the United States for a more dramatic view of what spoiling the countryside can mean.

The migrating “city slightly bigger than Exeter” has actually depopulated the northern cities containing the legendary mills. Their population is moving to the economically greener pastures of London, while wealthy Londoners are drifting into the idyllic countryside.

And did the Countenance Divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark Satanic mills?

It means that urbanites moving to the countryside find that their neighbors are an awful lot like them.

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Local or transplanted urbanite? Does it really make much difference?

ablarc
October 11th, 2007, 11:56 PM
"If my own experience is anything to go by, your neighbors in the sticks are more likely to be thirty- and fortysomething graphic designers, IT consultants and, of course, journalists, than smock-wearing yokels," said Hester Lacey, writing in the Guardian about her experience moving to the country.

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Possibly a yokel, but missing the smock.

Digression: There is currently a great wringing of hands in Boston over the de-yokelization (or actually de-Italianization) of the North End, which urbotourists prize for its gaggles of elderly male Sicilians. These stand or sit around on sidewalks and comment in two languages on the passing scene. Their fadeout is commonly regretted on forums by epicures of the urban, but perhaps for selfish reasons; how many grousing middle-class habitues of the new North End Starbuck’s have considered that a picturesque Sicilian flaneur might actually be grateful to retire to Son-the-Doctor’s suburban McMansion and its limitless television reruns sampled in air-conditioned comfort?

I myself regret having missed seeing the Chinese in Mao costumes, Turks in fezzes (I missed this one by eons), cowpokes in six-guns, and tennis players in white slacks, and I will probably miss Peruvian women in bowler hats; but I did manage to catch the Combat Zone and the line-up of floozies on the rue St. Honore before they moved to the Internet. And like many New Yorkers, I miss the three-card monte in Times Square.

Picturesque humanity as part of the ambiance: I agree that generally I find people like myself boring—at least in gaggles on the sidewalk, though not so much in one-on-one conversation, for which I prefer the like-minded. On the sidewalk I favor groupings of rap singers, turbaned Sikhs, Orthodox Jews, even juvenile delinquents (at a distance) or (best of all) pretty girls-- but someone obviously likes all those Starbucks; how else do you explain their proliferation and success?

It is, however, fairly hypocritical of us to bleed our hearts over the preservation of lifestyles not our own and a “sense of community” we find hard to pin down. This is not, after all, the survival of species, and what do we really know about the merits of other ways of life?

Can we be so dead sure that “yokel” who sold his leaky cottage to the London stockbroker for two cool million did the wrong thing for himself and his family? Maybe he and his wife can be found today by the pool in Acapulco, margarita in hand.

We rue the passing of this or that community, but isn’t there also a Starbucks community (unexotic) fading in to replace it? As we get prosperously post-Industrial, sooner or later everyone turns into a yuppie. Are we perhaps anthropologists? And if we were…?

Ultimately, I think we just find ourselves boring. Maybe we should start wearing fezzes.

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A local shopper pauses in a country town to enjoy a cup of tea. Or perhaps: A shopping tourist pauses in a country town to enjoy a latte.

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Could go either way on this crew, though locals generally don’t wear shorts. Still, the bicycle is kind of old-fashioned…

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Standing at the very edge of the town of Shaftesbury, a man and his son (grandson?) survey the country beyond the (now-vanished) town walls. Are they tourists? Or could they be locals? Does it matter?

Land-use rules imposed by planners since the late 1940s have suppressed suburban sprawl in Britain. One result is that truly rural landscapes beckon just beyond city limits. Much of the countryside remains postcard perfect: a pastiche of green fields and small woodlands, dotted by neat villages and church steeples, and unmarred by malls, billboards, fast-food eateries or other eyesores.

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ablarc
October 11th, 2007, 11:57 PM
According to the Countryside Agency, people say the country offers a better quality of life in a cleaner environment with less crime. Also, as mobility improves, more people are willing to live farther from work.

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If you can afford it, why not?

Richard Wakeford, the agency's chief executive, is an example. He lives in Gloucestershire, 100 miles from London, and travels there three days a week. But with cellphones and broadband Internet access, he can stay on top of his job from almost any location, he says.

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"This is the new paradigm," he said. "You don't need to be anywhere anymore. And that is the liberating factor."

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In some areas, the arrival of city people bent on preservation is boosting the economy. There has been a revival in such trades as blacksmithing, thatching, dry stonewalling and woodworking: The "heritage building sector" has become a $4-billion-a-year industry, employing up to 500,000 people.

This turn of events was predicted decades ago by the prescient Leon Krier, who also knew that forecasting it was one way to help make it happen. (Best to prophesy those things that you would actually like to see transpire. An optimistic outlook generally helps improve the future.)

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A new stone wall takes form, reviving long dormant skills. Would you rather build a stone wall in the country or work on Ford’s assembly line for the same money? There is also renewed interest in the trade of thatching.

"Crafts no longer exist to service agriculture and the traditional rural community but, instead, the lifestyle needs of … the new genus of country dweller," the agency said in a recent report.

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A newly-built stone wall encloses a court to make a precinct for two houses. Are the occupants related? Could you imagine being able to do this under conventional American suburban zoning?

In addition, each self-employed migrant to rural areas creates an average of 2.4 jobs, said Aileen Stockdale, a professor of land economy at Aberdeen University who helped conduct a recent study on the subject for the Royal Geographical Society.

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Down the hill, a quite newly-thatched roof or two. What do you bet some of the more beat-up tile roofs shortly follow suit, now that the cost of thatching is headed down?

Too often, she said in a telephone interview, the influx of city types is perceived in negative terms. But her research showed that many people who made the move were shifting to self-employment and launching new businesses. They present the potential for rural economic regeneration, she said.

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Thatched roofs of varied vintage enhance rural cottages and probably yield a handsome return at resale time. A “cottage” in rural England is often a rowhouse.

“Community” and a little urbanity surrounded by countryside: isn’t that what we say we hope to get in the suburbs? So we make up zoning laws to bring it to us as surely as gasoline puts out fires.

ablarc
October 11th, 2007, 11:59 PM
In fact, it is something of a myth that all the migrants are commuting into the cities. "The vast majority" finds work within 12 to 15 miles of where they settle, she said.

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Some seriously small residences. Have they heard of mandated minimum square footages?

Another professor, Anne Power of the London School of Economics, sounded an alarm this month that the rising migration from urban areas was disturbing the social balance, and urged the government to take steps to discourage it and regenerate cities. (Agree about regenerating cities; not sure about discouraging migration.)

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A place where some forms of social balance are restored daily.

Urban "depopulation leads to depleted services, empty property, a growing sense of abandonment, decay and population polarization, with the poorer left behind," the professor of social policy told the BBC.

Bring me my bow of burning gold:
Bring me my arrows of desire:
Bring me my spear: O clouds unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire.

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In Kingham, some people do commute to London — the 7:25 a.m. train gets to Paddington Station before 9. But others work in and around Oxford, the growing college town, which is half an hour away.

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Simon Merton, a real estate agent in Moreton-in-Marsh, about 20 minutes from here, said the factors driving sales in Kingham were good schools and "the desire to get out of London."

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"What starts as leaving London and renting a cottage for weekends becomes buying a house in the Cotswolds and selling out in London," he said.

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ablarc
October 12th, 2007, 12:00 AM
In the current market, it takes 1 million pounds, nearly $2 million, to acquire a five-bedroom house in the area that includes a garden, tennis court and paddock for the children's ponies.

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There is no dearth of demand, he said. "We have about 800 people on our list at the moment. They are a mixed bunch, some from town, some wanting to move within the area, but they all have over 500,000 pounds to spend."

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ablarc
October 12th, 2007, 12:01 AM
One person who made the move in recent years is Derek Thomas, 64, a retired aerospace engineer who sold his suburban London house at a profit and bought a light-filled converted stable in Kingham. He joined the walkers club, and his wife signed up for the Women's Institute service organization nearby.

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"My wife never stops telling me how much she enjoys it," he said of their new home. "Here you can look up and see the Milky Way. It's so beautiful at night."

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ablarc
October 12th, 2007, 12:02 AM
Sometimes people find that country life falls short of expectations.

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"A lot of people in England have an idealized picture of rural idyll and living in a thatched cottage surrounded by rose bushes without actually seeing the wider picture of being perhaps isolated from services," said Nigel Ellway, a spokesman for the Countryside Agency. "A number of journalists ask me if I have figures about the number who move back later after being disillusioned. The answer is, I don't know."

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Wakeford, the agency's chief executive, said one ongoing concern was how to keep the countryside affordable for those who grew up or worked in rural areas.

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In the Yorkshire Dales, a particularly beautiful part of England that has become a favorite destination for migrants, the area National Park Authority is considering a plan to mandate that all newly built housing be sold only to people who are local or take local jobs. With even small cottages now selling for more than $300,000, the aim is to prevent the area from becoming unaffordable to all but wealthy Londoners.

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If the plan succeeds, other districts are likely to follow suit.

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Kingham's novel response to the problem was to build 13 "dual-equity" houses in the village's traditional honey-colored limestone. People linked to the town, such as children of residents, could live in them and become part-owners at a reduced cost; the rest of the ownership would stay with the governing local council.

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The construction quality of yore is—amazingly—matched. All that’s missing is 400 years of grime. That will come, because these houses will last that long.

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ablarc
October 12th, 2007, 12:03 AM
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John Parslow, owner of the Mill House Hotel, was a courier company executive before he decided to retire and buy the ultra-comfy hotel 10 years ago.

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A comfy hotel.

The business has had its ups and downs, he said, sitting in front of a roaring fire in the bar area. But he enthused over the pleasant aspects of country life — knowing the neighbors, the scenery and walks, the celebrations on the village green and the peacefulness.

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Another comfy hotel.

Harvey, too, has an almost infectious enthusiasm for Kingham. Whether pointing out the tomb of a Norman knight in the 14th century church, the wooden beams of the parish hall or the embroidered banner carried in 19th century marches, the retired postman is an unabashed salesman for the rural way of life.

ablarc
October 12th, 2007, 12:05 AM
VILLAGES IN CONTEXT:

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A Cotswolds village.

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Bere Regis.

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Abbotsbury.

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A very large village (or maybe really a small town): Bridport.

Two longtime residents, Derek Tyack, 67, and Frank Palmer, 78, welcome the village's more recent economic renaissance. But they also sound a little wistful about the past.

Before the carpetbaggers started buying homes, they came as tourists to gawk at the pcturesque scenes that included buildings, countryside and the locals. There were also a few bona fide tourist attractions. What would otherwise be the sleepy village of Cerne Abbas is overrun with tourists come to see The Giant:

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Cerne Abbas.

The Giant adorns a hillside just outside the village. He’s evidence of how long people have lived hereabouts if you believe those who say he’s neolithic.

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The Giant of Cerne Abbas.

Others think he’s a Seventeenth Century hoax; that’s when he was first mentioned in print.

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He seems real enough to those who come to him to have their shortcomings mended:

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You can imagine what the gift shops sell.

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ablarc
October 12th, 2007, 12:06 AM
STREETSCAPE OF LARGE VILLAGES/SMALL TOWNS:

CERNE ABBAS: Three street scenes, the last featuring some medieval cottages.

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http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/75c.jpg

CORFE:

An especially picturesque village:

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/76.jpg

Tourists come here to climb to the ruined castle:

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/77.jpg

Corfe really is somewhere between a large village and a small town. Most buildings touch throughout, and there is more commerce than just the usual village pub(s):

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/78.jpg

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/79.jpg
Abbottsbury has the population of a village (480) but something of the built-up look of a town.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/80.jpg
You could say the same of Puncknowle (pop. 451; 1891 pop. 427).

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/80a.jpg
Evershot.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/80b.jpg
Lyme Regis.

ablarc
October 12th, 2007, 12:07 AM
http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/81.jpg
Shaftesbury, a market town with lots of commerce (pop. 6209).

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/82.jpg
New houses in the town of Dorchester (pop. 16,171).

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/82a.jpg
Dorchester.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/82b.jpg
Dorchester.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/82c.jpg
Lyme Regis.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/83.jpg
The town of Sherborne boasts three-story buildings, but the countryside is still…just over there.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/84.jpg
A house in Sherborne that Sir Walter Raleigh might have known.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/88.jpg
Christchurch: an attractive town.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/89.jpg
Christchurch: Eighteenth Century New York must have resembled this.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/90.jpg
Christchurch: somebody let in a little modernism. Could be worse, but it does introduce a certain machine order. Mass production in a run of three. Were they looking to save on architectural fees? Or is it just that modernist architects are required to think this way?

ablarc
October 12th, 2007, 12:08 AM
http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/91.jpg
Poole: an even more attractive town.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/92.jpg
Poole.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/93.jpg
Elsewhere in Poole, someone dropped the ball pretty badly. Not hard to see why regular folks hate modern architecture.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/94.jpg
Nicely detailed, but who cares? London has now come to Poole. It’ll never be the same; a single out-of-scale building can do that, and it has nothing to do with height.

Because much of England’s countryside is so much more effectively protected than poor Poole, it is still an environment fit for a king, and indeed the future king works hard to keep it unspoiled, which to him (and maybe if we’re willing to set aside our theories, to us) means no modernist architecture.

Here he is: the arch-villain in person, the man you love to hate:

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/99.jpg

Not only does this shameless blackguard admire picturesque old towns (I guess we all do that), but he actually has the brass to claim that you can still build like that today. Now!! In the twenty-first century!!!

Brazenly scorning the iron handcuffs of history—haughtily discounting the teutonic teachings of the sages of zeitgeist-- this benighted sleazeball actually proposes that we build faithful little replicas of English villages and towns—for all the world as though they had never fallen out of fashion. But worse than that—outrage!-- he has the pompous insolence to claim that people could actually enjoy living in these tawdry hotbeds of kitsch!

But wait, there’s more: he then actually builds one of these things against the advice of all the land’s experts and professionals! Builds it, mind you--doesn’t rest content with theorizing-- actually builds it!

And then he has the effrontery to preside over its financial success, populating it with the undeserving middle class. And finally –-airtight evidence of moral terpitude—this unscrupulous manipulator makes a handsome profit off the whole sorry business!

Somebody ought to pass a law against this kind of royal insolence. Oh…somebody already has—thank God for the impartial perspicacity of the great (Lord) Norman Foster. Reason triumphs.

But wait, there’s even more: the moral decay extends all the way to this forum and specifically to where the slimy poster has actually smuggled into this post photographs of Poundbury, somewhat secure in the belief that most readers won’t detect them on their first pass.

The architects and planners of Britain are, naturally, spearheading a movement to prevent this kind of thing in the future. This will doubtless be applauded by all true believers, ideologues, historical determinists and zeitgeist mavens on this forum. Those who believe history is, like a tsunami, an irresistible force indifferent to the influence of human will are working hard to keep this from becoming a trend, for this would not fit their learned theories (until they looked back upon it years from now, of course; then it would seem obvious and inevitable).

In fact the only ones who don’t hate Poundbury are the fools who actually live there, most of those who have visited and those who haven’t had their wisdom handed down from the intellectual press, planners and architects. In truth, many unsophisticates actually don’t notice Poundbury, so closely does it resemble the rest of the sleepy town of Dorchester (except a little cleaner). If you are among those who can’t positively identify the Poundbury pics in this post, you know exactly what this means.

For the real connoisseurs of kitsch, I have also sneaked in a picture or two of Portmeirion, a genuine counterfeit (this was actually a hotel masquerading as a town). In its dedication to craftsmanship, proportion and what its creator called “beauty” this was in some ways a spiritual forerunner of Poundbury; but here too the developer was aristocratic, and therefore of course his work deserves a priori condemnation. Inexplicably, Frank Lloyd Wright liked it.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/99a.jpg

Meanwhile, the slimy Prince plans to inflict further outrages upon the proponents of Modernism and zeitgeist theory, who will never be satisfied with anything less than total domination of all that is built (except perhaps for the genuinely awful subdivisions that here and there make their appearance but are too mousy to even take note of, much less hate. Wonder who designs these? Can it be architects?).

Even worse is what he must intend for his future subjects: this is all clearly just a Trojan horse for a wider scheme to thrust us back into the Middle Ages. Along with Poundbury, he no doubt plans to reintroduce serfdom, les droits du seigneur and cockfighting, at the very least.

Back to the LA Times:

Both [residents of Kingham] are former employees at the local agricultural machinery works that went bust in the 1980s. Palmer has turned to oil painting for income, while Tyack sells firewood and carves wooden sculptures on the side.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/99ab.jpg

"When you are going back, life was quite a bit different," Palmer said. "People then never went out of the village, never even for a holiday. You played about on the village green, and later on, that magic morning arrived when you had children of your own and they played on the green too.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/99ac.jpg

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/99ad.jpg

"Now, there are newer houses, incoming people, people on the move all the time…. Now you could say there are village people, and town people living in the village. It's a different style, not quite us and them, but a little bit of that."

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/99b.jpg

ablarc
October 12th, 2007, 12:10 AM
I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/99c.jpg


* * *

BITS AND PIECES

Both the architectural and planning profession are saturated with received wisdom (received folly?). Here’s something you can expect to hear: “Yeah, but they built all that stuff in the past, when that was how they did things.” Do you see the historical determinism? Implicitly, you have to add in your mind: “And of course you can’t do that now.”

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/100.jpg
Can you imagine getting this past today’s wetlands regulations?

Really? Why not? Because the greybeards said so? Inculcated us with avant-gardism while we thought we were free-thinkers?

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/101.jpg
Or this one? Good thing it was done hundreds of years ago; they’d make you take it down if you tried doing it today.

The other side of the coin is: “Yeah, but they had thousands of years to screw things up, while we’ve only had hundreds. How come we’ve screwed up America so much worse?”

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/105.jpg

Population density: UK, 639 per square mile; US, 81 per square mile. Can you tell by the relative condition of the countryside?

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http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/107.jpg


BLAKE’S POEM:

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?

And did the Countenance Divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark Satanic mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold:
Bring me my arrows of desire:
Bring me my spear: O clouds unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire.

I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/108.jpg

As mentioned, I smuggled in a couple of Poundbury pictures to see if you would catch them. Hint: they’re the ones that look freshly built. In about fifty years they will be nice and dirty (or weathered) like the older buildings. Otherwise, they’re indistinguishable. They’re not really replicas, any more than a Dorchester house of 1820 is a replica of one built in 1620, just because they’re hard to tell apart.

It’s just continuation of a tradition. Rudely interrupted perhaps for a few decades, but who can account for human folly?

*Yawn*

Makes me long for a couple of nice pictures of sprawl. Ok, here they are:

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/110.jpg

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/111.jpg

Back to reality. Oh… we never left it.

Just a different reality.

Different and better.

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/country/109.jpg

.

alonzo-ny
October 12th, 2007, 12:03 PM
Hmm i think i missed your point, what is your opinion on nice picturesque villages?

Meerkat
October 12th, 2007, 12:21 PM
Very nice pictures - reminds me a bit of my home county. In fact when i have more time i'll post some pictures of it here, if thats ok with you ablarc.

ablarc
October 12th, 2007, 02:08 PM
Hmm i think i missed your point, what is your opinion on nice picturesque villages?
I think they're the cat's meow. Who could possibly think otherwise? What's yours?

But you certainly do seem to have missed the point (judging from your question). "Some assembly required," I guess.

(Hint: capsule summary provided by Blake; heaven help you if you miss his.)

MidtownGuy
October 12th, 2007, 02:28 PM
What a wonderful thread; you brought me along on a journey.
Thanks.

alonzo-ny
October 12th, 2007, 03:49 PM
yeah i think i got confused when you switched from the article to your own thoughts and back. So to get it straight, you like them but not the recreation/snubbing modern architecture?

I love those little british towns but someone with vision could make a quaint irregular, but very modern architecture village. and those horrible cheap suburban additions ruin the earth i hate them.

Meerkat
October 17th, 2007, 11:29 AM
Here are a few pictures from my home county of Shropshire, one of the most sparsly populated counties in England (451,000 people - about 334.1 people per square mile), and still, fortunately mostly unspoilt by mass development (apart from Telford new town).

Here are some of my favourite places.

Here is the small town of Much Wenlock (population 2600), and the ruins of St.Milburgas abbey (founded around 680 and dissolved in the 1540's)

http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/photos/much_wenlock/v46_9_DSC_0063.jpg

http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk/images/wenlock02.jpg

http://www.slowe.eclipse.co.uk/Churches%20in%20the%20Team_files/image004.jpg

http://viewfinder.english-heritage.org.uk/gallery/450/k98/k980718.jpg

http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/upload/img_400/wm_wenlock_02.jpg

The siperstones - a quartzite ridge formed some 480 Million years ago. During the last Ice Age the summit stood out above the glaciers and was subject to constand freezing and thawing which shattered the quartzite into a mass of jumbled scree surrounding several residual rocky tors. At 536 metres above sea level it is the second highest hill in the county. The Stiperstones five-mile (8 km) long summit ridge is crowned by several rugged, jagged outcrops of rock silouetted against the sky.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Devil%27s_Chair.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Devil%27s_Chair.jpg)

http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/res.nsf/58BCF094180DE9DC8025703D002C6616/$file/Stiperstones_Devils%20Chair.jpg

http://www.photographybysabine.co.uk/albums/landscapes/CD47ST_PICT0160.jpg

Ludlow, a small town of around 10,000 situated in the south of the county, and dominated by the ruins of the 12th century castle.

http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/cards/a-ludlow010.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/jhgowen/pictures/England/Ludlow/ludlow.jpg

Meerkat
October 17th, 2007, 11:45 AM
A few trpical images of the county - if you like city living (as i do) then Shropshire's not for you!


http://transportcafe.co.uk/photographic_compilation_around_britain_n_countrys ide/english_countryside/shropshire_hills.jpg

http://www.transportcafe.co.uk/english_countryside_2/shropshire_plain.jpg

http://k43.pbase.com/g2/96/690996/2/65600545.zN0VhHdt.jpg

This is Caer Caradoc, one of several iron age hill forts in the county - i spent a night camping here when i was a teenager. You can just make out the ridges of the old defensive ditches around the fort.

http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/upload/img_400/NMR21077_12x384.jpg

Back to towns. Bridgnorth is another small town of around 12,000, situated on the River Sever (the river more or less bisects the country dividing the hilly southern areas from the flat plains of north shropshire.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/High_Town%2C_Bridgnorth.jpg

http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/res.nsf/F4BDF627AAB9E41F802570A000575A4F/$file/Bridgnorth.jpg

Bridgnorth town hall - very small, i'm not sure how they manage to fit anything in this....


http://www.whitburngrange.co.uk/images/town-hall.jpg

MidtownGuy
October 17th, 2007, 12:07 PM
beautiful, beautiful, beautiful!!
thanks

Meerkat
October 17th, 2007, 12:11 PM
Church stretton (population 3,000) is another small town, set in an area known as little switzerland, although the hills that surround it can hardly be described as mountains.

http://www.churchstrettonmagpies.co.uk/images/strettonpanorama.jpg

http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/photos/church_stretton/22sti_Pict0004.jpg (http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/gallery/church_stretton/22sti_Pict0004)

Ellesmere (population 3,000) in the flatter north of the county is located by the 'Mere' a lake which is one of nine glacial Meres in the area ( the meres were created by the depression in the ground created by huge blocks of ice that persisted at the end of the last Ice Age).

http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/photos/ellesmere/v12_14_DSC_0191.jpg

http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/photos/ellesmere/v12_14_DSC_0186.jpg

http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/photos/ellesmere/42e_Pict0127.jpg

http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/photos/ellesmere/v34_12_DSC_0002.jpg

http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/photos/ellesmere/52ns_PICT0056.jpg

The imaginatively named Ironbridge is another small town (now more or less swallowed by Telford new town) named after the cast iron bridge in the picture (built1779) which spans the river Severn (the longest river in Great Britain). It is now a UNSECO world heritage site.

http://www.telford.gov.uk/externalfunding/erdf/regeneration%20web%20aw/toll-lg.jpg

Due to its historical importance it deserves a quote from Wikipedia (my bible at the moment - i use it for more or less every day for one reason or another).

''The area around Ironbridge is described as the "Birthplace of the Industrial Revolution" because it includes Coalbrookdale and Broseley, where Abraham Darby I perfected the technique of smelting iron with coke, allowing much cheaper production of iron. The grandson of the first Abraham Darby, Abraham Darby III, built the famous bridge to link the two areas in 1779. Soon afterwards the ancient Madeley market was relocated to the new purpose built Square and Georgian Butter Cross and the former dispersed settlement of Madeley Wood gained a planned urban focus as Ironbridge, the commercial and administrative centre of the Coalbrookdale coalfield. The Iron Bridge proprietors also built the Tontine Hotel to accommodate visitors to the new Bridge and the industrial sights of the Gorge. On the hillside above the river are situated the stone-built 16th century hunting Lodge at Lincoln Hill, many 17th and 18th century workers cottages, some imposing Georgian houses built by ironmasters and mine and barge owners, and many early Victorian villas built from the various coloured bricks and tiles of the locality''.

http://www.transportcafe.co.uk/image16/ironbridge_shropshire_thomas_telford.jpg

Meerkat
October 17th, 2007, 12:27 PM
I'm on a roll now.....

Of course now i have to mention my home town of Shrewsbury - population 70,000 and the county town of Shropshire. It was settled during the Anglo - Saxon period and during the middle ages much of its wealth came from the Welsh wool trade. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrewsbury

There are also about 8 Shrewsbury's in the US, the largest being in Massachusetts, one day i plan to visit at least one of them. Our most famous son has to be Charles Darwin, but is also home to Tony Blairs father........

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Charles_Darwin_by_Julia_Margaret_Cameron.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Charles_Darwin_by_Julia_Margaret_Cameron.jpg)

http://www.aeropic.co.uk/photo_database/shrewsbury/aeropic_20050607_shrewsbury_2_w800.jpg

http://www.aeropic.co.uk/photo_database/shrewsbury/aeropic_20050607_shrewsbury_1_w800.jpg

http://www.aeropic.co.uk/photo_database/shrewsbury/aeropic_20040308_shrewsbury_st_chads_2_w800.jpg


The picture below shows the area i grew up in (bottom right of the picture).

http://www.aeropic.co.uk/photo_database/shrewsbury/aeropic_20040424_shrewsbury_3_w800c.jpg


And below is the 'gay meadow' football ground, now being replaced by the more politically correct but boringly named 'new meadow' football ground on the edge of town. If only they knew the effect the name of the football team's pitch had on me....:D
http://www.aeropic.co.uk/photo_database/shrewsbury/aeropic_20050607_gay_meadow_4_w640.jpg

A few more ad hoc pictures of various villages; Hope Bowdler:

http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/photos/hope_bowdler/13hb_PICT0077.jpg

Cardington:

http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/photos/cardington/104cc_Dsc_0021.sized.jpg (http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/gallery/cardington/104cc_Dsc_0021?full=1)

Bedstone:

http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/photos/bedstone/14ca_Pict0033.jpg

Meerkat
October 17th, 2007, 12:58 PM
A couple more pictures of shropshire. Here is a rendering of Shrewsbury as it would have appeared in 1630 - i have a larger version of this on my bedroom wall.

http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/res.nsf/3F1C4DC3068B7F298025725F0039228F/$file/tudor-and-stuart-shrewsbury-map.jpg

Aston Eyre church:
http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/photos/aston_eyre/v24_19_DSC_0172.jpg

Acton Round:

http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/photos/acton_round/14ar_Pict0029.sized.jpg (http://www.virtual-shropshire.co.uk/gallery/acton_round/14ar_Pict0029?full=1)

Stokesay castle:

http://fp.ajsouthee.plus.com/stokesay%207.jpg

Ruins of another abbey (i like ruins...) this is Haughmond abbey on the edge of Shrewsbury.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Haughmond_Abbey_ruins.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Haughmond_Abbey_ruins.jpg)

One of the tallest hills in shropshire - the wrekin, 407 metres tall, and if you're fit enough well worth the 2 hour slog to the summet

http://www.bbc.co.uk/shropshire/content/images/2005/08/17/wrekin_gallery_01_470x300.jpg

http://www.transportcafe.co.uk/wallpaper_desktop_computer_bg/wrekin_from_church_stretton.jpg

I think i've worn myself out with talk of the countryside.... Nice to look at and maybe i'll go back one day, but now i think i need my fix of the noise and grime of London, so its off to Starbucks for a latte i think, and then i guess i'll have to cram onto the overcrowded tube to get home....

Jasonik
October 17th, 2007, 02:23 PM
In fact the only ones who don’t hate Poundbury are the fools who actually live there, most of those who have visited and those who haven’t had their wisdom handed down from the intellectual press, planners and architects. In truth, many unsophisticates actually don’t notice Poundbury, so closely does it resemble the rest of the sleepy town of Dorchester (except a little cleaner). If you are among those who can’t positively identify the Poundbury pics in this post, you know exactly what this means.

It's as if we, as a modern civilized people are expected to shop a twee village market, and with neighborly tones inquire as to the character of the cheese undoubtedly fashioned from ruminant beasts in a intolerably folksy ancient manner. Are we of modern sensibilities to savor handmade chicken pies? How is it, that a humble farmer's cider can be expected to quench us? Can rustic sourdough breads layered with a barbaric wood smoked ham and as antiquated a condiment as stone ground mustard sate the refined progressive appetite? What dram of cask-drawn primitive ferment can ever accompany our loftiest ideals?

These retrograde savage simpletons are the antithesis of our very fiber. May glass and steel be their rod and staff, and may machine uniformity cleanse their unevolved souls.

brianac
October 17th, 2007, 04:57 PM
Great work Meerkat you have painted a picture typical of Salop.

As you know I live not far from Shropshire and have visited many of the places you have shown.

Thank you.

brianac
October 17th, 2007, 05:31 PM
One of my favourite and most visited spots in Shropshire.

The Cider House at Wooton near Quatt, near Bridgnorth.
I took the photo around 1965. I think.

GVNY
October 18th, 2007, 03:47 AM
Could you tell us more about the regulations which have kept the villages and pastures of the British countryside looking so pleasant and appealing?

ablarc
October 18th, 2007, 07:49 AM
^ Prohibiting development forces preservation.

Where development is permitted, regulations don't prescribe the onerous. All those U.S. parking lots and all that sprawl is actually required.

A first step in this country would be to add a zoning overlay to most places allowing urban (i.e. not suburban) development patterns. Villages are urban; therefore they preserve farmland and wilderness. Zoning prohibits such development everywhere in the U.S. Look at the tenth and eleventh photos in this thread, take out your zoning book, and ask yourself: "Where, oh where, in North America could this legally be built?"

Meerkat
October 18th, 2007, 09:36 AM
I'll add a few more pictures soon, can't today as i'm at work - i forgot a few places i really like to visit when i'm home.

Capn_Birdseye
October 18th, 2007, 09:52 AM
Where am I?

czsz
October 18th, 2007, 11:50 AM
Could you tell us more about the regulations which have kept the villages and pastures of the British countryside looking so pleasant and appealing?

Beyond sprawl, the difference lies to a great extent in the fields. The Northeast US used to look quite a bit like this, but hasn't since the Plains/Midwest gained a huge comparative advantage in agriculture. I wouldn't know, but surely there's some kind of massive subsidy (does the UK get CAP funds?) for farmers/limit to agribusiness' control over farms. If Britain were part of the US, it would have been mostly reforested by now.

Meerkat
October 19th, 2007, 12:50 PM
Where am I?

Winchester????

Anyway, a couple more pictures and i'll finish, the first two are the ruins of Wroxeter roman city, and the picture at the bottom is a village called Bishops castle. A bit out in the sticks, but not quite 'deliverance' country.

By the way, Brinac - we've stopped using the term Salop as in French it translates as 'une Salope' or a 'slut' something my French friend found very amusing when i took him up to Shropshire. But yes Claverley is lovely - not far from you really, some of my ancestors moved to Dudley in the nineteenth century as agricultural jobs in the area were lost and replaced by machines.


http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/upload/img_400/wm_wroxeter_01.jpg
http://www.aeropic.co.uk/photo_database/shropshire/aeropic_20040309_wroxeter_1_800.jpg

http://www.lydburynorth.net/lyd2.JPG

I think the main reason most of England isn't built up is we have strictly regulated 'green belt' land around our cities, and areas such as south shropshire which are considered areas of natural beauty it is very difficult to gain planning consent for new houses / commercial premices. Plus houses in England are quite small compared with houses in the US or Australia. Saying that however, things are changing especially in the south east, which seems to be developing into an massive urban sprawl centered on London, and some areas of green belt are fast vanishing.

CSCZ - farmers here do get subsidised by the EU, to only produce specific quotas of harvest, whatever it may be. A ludicrous idea as so much produce is wasted - my friend in France's family own a vinyard and every year his father has to tip away wine rather than produce too much. Madness. Although i'm not sure of the exact details of this process someone else may be able to explain further.

I'm curious, but looking at maps of New England i gain the impression that it there seems to be a more or less built up area stretching from Boston to Washington - is there any control on this?

czsz
October 19th, 2007, 08:20 PM
is there any control on this?

only at the most local level, which is to say...not much.

zupermaus
October 20th, 2007, 09:55 AM
St Albans?

Meerkat
October 23rd, 2007, 07:18 AM
Where am I?

So - where are you??? I still think its winchester.

Capn_Birdseye
October 25th, 2007, 01:31 PM
So - where are you??? I still think its winchester.
Apologies Meerkat, you're correct, its Winchester.

How long can we hold on to our green & pleasant land? I was reading a report today that was saying the unprecedented avalanche of immigration into the UK will mean that we'll have to build 15 cities the size of Birmingham over the next 25 years just to accommodate them!

I fear for our countryside.

alonzo-ny
October 25th, 2007, 05:17 PM
What. 30 million people? i dont think so.

ablarc
October 25th, 2007, 06:47 PM
What. 30 million people?
Birmingham's around a million. That would make 15 million.

alonzo-ny
October 25th, 2007, 06:55 PM
It really depends on what source you get. Ive read from 4 million at metro scale to as low as just under a million at city limit scale. I more than often read just below 2 million. If you know the most credible source id like a link to clarify for me.

edit. checking up on this the urban area is around 2.5 million. with the city being a million. I generally consider the whole metro population when refering to a city.

Meerkat
October 26th, 2007, 05:03 PM
Apologies Meerkat, you're correct, its Winchester.

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Yep, thought so :cool:. The statue of Alfred the Great gave it away.

Further to the discussion of the population of Birmingham:

The population of Birmingham city is around 1,006,000; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham,

The West Midlands conurbation which includes the towns of Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Dudley, Walsall etc has around 2,600,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Midlands_%28county%29, this pretty much covers the built up area centered on Birmingham.

The West midlands region, which includes the counties of Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire, Herefordshire, Warwickshire and the West Midlands county has a population of around 5,267,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Midlands_%28region%29.

For those geeks (like me) who are interested in history, this more or less covers the ancient Anglo-saxon kingdom of Mercia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercia.

BenL
October 29th, 2007, 05:13 PM
Apologies Meerkat, you're correct, its Winchester.

How long can we hold on to our green & pleasant land? I was reading a report today that was saying the unprecedented avalanche of immigration into the UK will mean that we'll have to build 15 cities the size of Birmingham over the next 25 years just to accommodate them!

I fear for our countryside. What paper did you read that in?

lofter1
October 29th, 2007, 07:47 PM
Where are the wars, famines & plagues when you need them :cool: :confused:

Meerkat
November 3rd, 2007, 11:33 PM
How long can we hold on to our green & pleasant land? I was reading a report today that was saying the unprecedented avalanche of immigration into the UK will mean that we'll have to build 15 cities the size of Birmingham over the next 25 years just to accommodate them!



Hopefully they will use brownfield sites as they are doing in the east end of London, and most cities around the country in fact.

Don't worry too much about the population predictions - most people are so fed up with the situation the government will have to act soon or they will have civil disorder on their hands.

Anyway, i found this nice picture while browsing the internet and thought i'd post it here. Its of a small village called Harley in Shropshire, one branch of my family lived here until the early 1900's. There are only about 150 people living there now. The church is called St.Marys.

http://www.fylde.demon.co.uk/TV/HarleyLowRes.jpg

alonzo-ny
November 4th, 2007, 01:36 AM
Did anyone watch those shows called 'how we built britain' on channel four this summer?

Meerkat
November 17th, 2007, 11:11 AM
^ No. Was it interesting?

alonzo-ny
November 17th, 2007, 12:11 PM
Very, the guy, i cant remember his name he is a c4 news presenter, traveled the different regions of the Uk and explored some very interesting old and new buildings!

BenL
November 18th, 2007, 01:56 PM
I thought it was David Dimbleby?

alonzo-ny
November 18th, 2007, 02:10 PM
Bingo! I couldnt remember his name, knew it was channel 4 though.

BenL
November 18th, 2007, 02:14 PM
Except he's from the BBC!

brianac
November 18th, 2007, 04:35 PM
Was this the series?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/05_may/18/britain_dimbleby.shtml

alonzo-ny
November 18th, 2007, 06:40 PM
I cant remember, brain kills beer cells.

Meerkat
November 19th, 2007, 05:34 AM
Shame i missed this series - i don't watch much TV these days. No doubt they'll repeat it in the near future.