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Optimus Prime
October 27th, 2007, 01:47 PM
Does anyone know if there are any requirements for maintaining the level of the streetwall in the zoning regs? It doesn't seem like it, with buildings like O'Hara's 47 E 34th (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showpost.php?p=193260&postcount=108) being but one example of a horrible but widespread trend.

If there is no such requirement in place, could we lobby for one? How would we go about it. The requirement I am thinking of is that new developments must maintain the level of streetwall of its highest adjacent neighbor. In other words, you build between a seven story building and a five story building, both of which rise straight off the lot line, you must hold to at least the seven story streetwall.

Developers will hate this because they can build higher under FAR if they set the building back at a lower level. The worst architects and developers are taking advantage of this. The better ones realize how important streetwalls are. It's time to stop the two-bit architects and the cheap developers from ruining our streetscapes. We may not have a lot of power over what they put up in the skyline, but the streets belong to us.

212
October 27th, 2007, 01:57 PM
Agreed! Not sure if an outright mandate on streetwalls is the right way (you still want to encourage true innovation if it comes along), but the right penalties and incentives would protect us from the cheapo crap.

friedrice
October 27th, 2007, 03:25 PM
depends on what district you are in. Certain require you to maintain streetwalls others do not

lofter1
October 27th, 2007, 07:06 PM
For the most part NYC zoning regulations do not require new buildings to correspond with an existing street wall.

About one year ago some of us got all worked up about his and you can read about it on THIS PAGE (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?p=117418&highlight=mcsam+zoning#post117418) with all sorts of zoning info starting HERE (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117399&postcount=304).

About that same time I took concerns rregarding these new set-back buildings to the Zoning Committee at Community Board 2, where I was told that to get the zoning language changed would be a long and arduous project. Big parts of the zoning text had recently been re-written after a long and tortuous process. But since these Chang / Poon / Kaufman type buildings were not seen (for the most part) until just recently the prospect of these types of buildings weren't addressed in the new zoning language.

The CB2 zoning comitte expressed verbal support for a unifrom streetwall, but none expressed the deisre (or ability) to lead the fight to make the changes that would be needed.

Feeling somewhat shot down I pretty much backed away from the fight at that time.

The place to go to get these changes put into the NYC Zoning Resolution is at City Planning (http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/home.html).

Optimus Prime
October 27th, 2007, 08:34 PM
Great background info, lofter. Thanks.