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Ninjahedge
November 19th, 2007, 02:05 PM
Suggestion.

After receiving a random PM asking me to "please read my book and tell me what you think" from a totally anonymous, 0 post user, I am going to pitch this out and see if it agrees with any of you and if it can be done.

Can you make giving PM's (at the very least STARTING a PM) a priveledge that is granted after, say, 5 posts?

It is minor, but it would at least give the admins time to see if a user is a spammer before they try to do a random CTRL-V-By of the users on the site.....

Just wondering....

kz1000ps
November 21st, 2007, 02:15 AM
I got the book take-a-look pitch too. That kind of stuff always makes me think of Bill Hicks:

"By the way, if anyone here is in advertising or marketing-- kill yourself." LOL

Merry
November 21st, 2007, 04:43 AM
I got that PM too. I agree with Ninjahedge, but I would make the posts higher than 5. Sending PMs to people is a very personal action, especially on this forum, and at least basic familiarity with who you're sending a PM to is, IMO, important.

brianac
November 21st, 2007, 06:11 AM
I got the PM too.

Is there a way to establish how many people were in receipt of the PM?

GVNY
November 21st, 2007, 09:19 AM
Myself as well received the message.

Front_Porch
November 21st, 2007, 11:04 AM
I got it too, but the member had already been banned and so I deleted it without having read it.

ali r.
{downtown broker}

ZippyTheChimp
November 21st, 2007, 11:30 AM
We discussed this in the Moderator Forum.

Edward said that forum permissions are based on usergroups - Senior Users, Forum Veterans, etc. There is no usergroup for 5 posts.

We agreed that the occurrence is rare, so not a problem.

If you receive any suspicious PMs, notify the moderators, and the user will be banned.

ManhattanKnight
November 21st, 2007, 12:14 PM
While PM spam is, indeed, rare here, spam/porn posting by brand-new members is not. Another forum in which I participate that's also using vBulletin v. 3.6.8 avoids this problem entirely by automatically preventing members with fewer than 5 posts from including links in posts. Is there a reason why that feature hasn't been turned on at WNY?

Ninjahedge
November 21st, 2007, 01:07 PM
I think they have to make another category for that.

Add in a group called "Newbie" or "Greenhorn" or something NYC/Immigration history relevant..... (w/o being degrading, of course!).

Make that group people that have less than 5 or 10 posts.

No blog, no PM, no links/pics.

It would have to be something that still gave people enough freedom to want to stay, but restrict those spammers and spam-bots from coming in easily.

We all know they will find ways around it, but until then, sticking your finger in the dyke may help prevent some leakage. (It would probably be better than calling inthe ACoE!!!! ;) )

Capn_Birdseye
November 21st, 2007, 01:23 PM
I got the PM as well. Cheeky b***er! Needs to be tied to the main mast and given a lashing.

Edward
November 21st, 2007, 04:32 PM
Certain amount of spam seems to be unavoidable. Every method to combat spam has some drawbacks. Making 5 or 10 posts requirement will not stop spam - spammer will have to spend just a couple of minutes more to make those 5-10 posts.

ablarc
November 21st, 2007, 09:09 PM
Making 5 or 10 posts requirement will not stop spam - spammer will have to spend just a couple of minutes more to make those 5-10 posts.
It might stop most spammers if the policy was not enunciated. How many spammers would have the persistence to try ten posts unless they felt assured of success after ten posts?

Btw, I got the PM too. Who didn't?

Alonzo-ny
November 21st, 2007, 09:30 PM
I thought i was special!

ZippyTheChimp
November 21st, 2007, 11:28 PM
It might stop most spammers if the policy was not enunciated.Yeah, but it would also stop people who want to post a link to their vacation pictures.

BrooklynRider
November 23rd, 2007, 11:29 PM
I've been online twice when two different spam PMs were sent, (1) for a movie and (2) for a book.

Both were banned relatively quickly after that (as I channeled the full strength of the Moderator powers - which I'm still learning.)

If anyone is not familiar with the online user feature: If you need to know what Moderator is online, click on the hyperlink back to the "Community" aka WNY Forum. All online users are listed on the bottom. Moderators highlighted in red. Forward any PM spam to the ones online and / or Moderators you are familiar with.

Not sure if that helps anyone.

Zerlina
November 24th, 2007, 04:35 PM
Suggestion.

After receiving a random PM asking me to "please read my book and tell me what you think" from a totally anonymous, 0 post user, I am going to pitch this out and see if it agrees with any of you and if it can be done.

Can you make giving PM's (at the very least STARTING a PM) a priveledge that is granted after, say, 5 posts?

It is minor, but it would at least give the admins time to see if a user is a spammer before they try to do a random CTRL-V-By of the users on the site.....

Just wondering....
I've found a private message like this... but the worst I've ever had as attachment an "hard pic"... :eek:

Ninjahedge
November 26th, 2007, 04:04 PM
Maybe the thing would be something that would restrict the broadcasting of a PM. I am sure this person did not PM everyone manually.

If there was maybe a time limit and/or a limit to the number of PM's sent in a given span of time (the former not needing any special class, the latter being something that may ease up as you get more posts) it would prevent the mass-spamming of the messages. A few of us would get it (5? 10?) but it would take too long to get enough out before a mode banned them to make it really worth the effort to spam here.


All-in-all this site has been pretty good about this. I am not complaining, just looking for the most transparent solution that would only inconvenience the abusers.....

popowich
December 22nd, 2007, 10:10 AM
Stop the spammers from getting in to begin with. There are some great products available for vBulletin (I'm a vBulletin admin). The most effective for me has been the NoSpam (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=124828) product. Remove the captcha from the registration page, and replace it with an English question. It's worked wonders for me on my forums. I use a couple other anti-spam products too, but if you had to pick one, that's it. :)

-Raymond

AJphx
February 26th, 2009, 09:24 PM
Just happened to look at private messages, I ahd 4 in there, all were old spams. Noticed that two were banned, but two weren't. They are the user names: oliveria22 and sarah1452. Both seemed to be nigerian scams, pretty old, back from 2007.... but I just thought I would mention it if the mods like to keep user rolls cleaned up or whatever..

lofter1
February 27th, 2009, 12:44 AM
Yesterday i got my first WNY Nigerian sad-song Message.

Some prince who needs access to my full identity and bank info so he can share some cash with me.

Anybody here have any luck with him?

Ninjahedge
February 27th, 2009, 11:29 AM
I think there was a cocoa magnate's son that was trying the same thing the other day.

I still wonder who is dumb enough to fall for this....

lofter1
February 27th, 2009, 12:03 PM
You calling me dumb :confused:

ZippyTheChimp
February 27th, 2009, 12:17 PM
If people weren't falling for it, thy would have changed the country in the story by now.

lofter1
February 27th, 2009, 12:29 PM
And I'm really looking forward to my visit over there.

Once the transaction is finalized i've been told I'm welcome to stay for a week -- or even more!