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Marksix
January 11th, 2008, 06:15 AM
Ringo Starr kicks off the celebrations today as Liverpool becomes the 2008 European Capital of Culture


Former Beatle Ringo Starr will kick off celebrations on Friday as his home town Liverpool takes on the mantle of European Capital of Culture for 2008.


Starr will be joined by more than 1,300 performers over the weekend to launch a year-long programme of 350 musical, dance and art events which organisers hope will attract an extra two million people to the city.

"The People's Opening" gets underway in front of St George's Hall in the city centre at exactly 8:08 p.m., with rooftop performances by Starr, who will be premiering a new song and other artists.



Former Eurythmics frontman Dave Stewart and up and coming local band The Wombats will also feature.

On Saturday, the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra and well-known local groups such as Echo and The Bunnymen and The Farm will join hundreds of other performers including 100 schoolchildren for a musical extravaganza at the new Echo Arena.

Other events planned for the year include a concert in June by another former Beatle, Paul McCartney, at Anfield Stadium, home of Liverpool Football Club.

"It's going to be a great year," McCartney said when the plans were unveiled last September.

"I'm very proud of the city and I look forward to welcoming you all and showing you a good time."


see: www.liverpool08.com

Fabrizio
January 11th, 2008, 07:51 AM
Interesting how old Ringo still manages to look young and contemporary. The guy is pushing 70.

http://weblogs.variety.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/28/ringo2_2.jpg

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/celebp/06282007/photo01.jpg

lofter1
January 11th, 2008, 08:20 AM
I always thought Ringo was the shortest of the bunch :confused:

Fabrizio
January 11th, 2008, 08:50 AM
Yeah, he started out in life short and ugly.

Anyway, I see expertly dyed hair and beard (stubble has got to be done like every 2 days).

Completely new teeth. Botoxed forehead. Sprayed on tan.

There might be some hormone replacement going on there too.

All nicely done.

---

Now if you want to postively gasp, look at 73 year old Armani on the beach. Body-lift and lyptosuction.

Of course if anyone has the money to get it done right, she does:

http://www.corriere.it/spettacoli/08_gennaio_01/armani_fisico_bestiale_710274f8-b888-11dc-bd8b-0003ba99c667.shtml

Marksix
January 11th, 2008, 08:53 AM
Ringo's on ABC & CBS morning TV in New York now. :)

I hope I look that good when I'm 40 never mind 70!

CBS Video of Ringo & Liverpool:

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3695752n

Capn_Birdseye
January 11th, 2008, 01:54 PM
Liverpool, European City of Culture 2008 - is someone having a joke?

Radiohead
January 12th, 2008, 02:13 AM
Liverpool, European City of Culture 2008 - is someone having a joke?

I guess every city will have it's due, even Liverpool.

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/celebp/06282007/photo01.jpg

As for Ringo, no matter how he does it, he looks good for 65. But c'mon, he's about 5'8". Is he standing on a box, or is McCartney standing in a hole?

deezee
January 13th, 2008, 11:43 AM
for those of us old enough to have been around when the beatles started...liverpool was the capital of the WORLD in 1964 not just europe.

Capn_Birdseye
January 13th, 2008, 01:10 PM
Q. What do you call a scouser in a suit?
A. The accused.

Now that Liverpool has been named Capital of Culture will the cars be propped up on books instead of bricks?

I find the whole concept of Liverpool being proclaimed the capital of culture very amusing - its noticeable how anyone who "made it" soon left the place, e.g., The Beatles, who almost immediately they became "big" moved to London where there is culture.

Marksix
January 14th, 2008, 09:17 AM
Q. What do you call a scouser in a suit?
A. The accused.

Now that Liverpool has been named Capital of Culture will the cars be propped up on books instead of bricks?




...ho ho ho, heh heh heh, haw haw haw,ho ho ho, heh heh heh, haw haw haw,ho ho ho, heh heh heh, haw haw haw,ho ho ho, heh heh heh, haw haw haw!

Gosh Capn, thank you so much for that cultural nugget and fine example of sophisticated, original London humour. Why, your cultural soirees must just fly by when you dazzle your guests with your devastating wit. I've never laughed that much since I first heard that joke from Bernard Manning in oh, about 1974...but it's refreshing every time its told, is every bit as funny and has lost none of Bernard's deep insight into cultural nuances that only the fully secure metroploitan sophisticate can truly appreciate. Honest.

I bet your humour goes over most peoples heads so please don't post anymore of your brilliantly original jokes, I'm crakin' up here :) (tell us the one about the hubcaps - go-on!)

lofter1
January 14th, 2008, 11:52 AM
uhmmm ... help out a stupid American ...

What's a "scouser" :confused:

Marksix
January 14th, 2008, 12:03 PM
uhmmm ... help out a stupid American ...

What's a "scouser" :confused:

Definition:Scouse (pronounced /skaus/) is the accent and dialect of English found in the north-western English city of Liverpool and in some adjoining urban areas of Merseyside. The Scouse accent is highly distinctive and sounds wholly different from the accents used in the neighbouring regions of Cheshire and rural Lancashire. Inhabitants of Liverpool are called Liverpudlians, but are more often described by the coloquialism Scousers.

The word Scouse was originally a variation of "lobscouse", the name of a traditional dish of Scouse made with lamb stew mixed with hardtack eaten by sailors of which, in the 19th Century, most if not all would have been familiar with Liverpool as at that time about half of all deep sea ships were Liverpool ships and the other half would have visited Liverpool at least once.

or -

more generally one who instills inferiority complex in other inhabitants of the UK (particularly Cockneys) unfortunate enough not to be born a scouser. :)

(mostly we all look like this)

Capn_Birdseye
January 14th, 2008, 02:10 PM
Hey marksix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7VspOs3Qt0&feature=related

A scouser walked into the local job centre, marched straight up to the counter and said "Hi, I'm looking for a job".

The man behind the counter replied "Your timing is amazing. We've just got one in from a very wealthy man who wants a
chauffeur/bodyguard for his nymphomaniac twin daughters. You'll have to drive around a big black Mercedes and wear the uniform provided. The hours are a bit long but the meals are provided. You also have to escort the young ladies on their overseas holidays. The Salary package is 200,000 a year".

The Scouser said "You're bullsh*tting me!"

The man behind the counter said "Well you started it!"

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If you see a Scouser on a bicycle, why should you never swerve to hit him?
It might be your bicycle

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Why does the River Mersey run through Liverpool?
Because if it walked it would be mugged

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What do you call a Scouser in a three-bed semi?
A Burglar

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What's the difference between a Scouser and a coconut?
One's thick and hairy, and the other's a coconut.

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What do you say to a scouser in a uniform?
Big Mac and fries please

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What's the first question at a Liverpool pub quiz night?
What you looking at?

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What do you call a scouser in a White Shellsuit?
The Bride

Meerkat
January 15th, 2008, 06:40 PM
^^^ very funny :D i'll remember some of these. Here's a couple more

How can you tell if a scouser has been using a computer?
There's Tipp-Ex on the screen.

What's a scousers best form of sex protection?
A bus shelter.

Anyway - good for Liverpool and remember Marksix, Birdseye probably hasn't been north of Watford let alone Liverpool, you know southerners:D.

Radiohead
January 15th, 2008, 09:31 PM
We have scousers here in the states, they're just called rednecks and white trash....

http://www.horsepowerjunkies.com/gallery/data/500/1440toilet_redneck.jpg

http://www.sunbelt-software.com/stu/redneck/RedneckDivorce.jpg

http://sidesalad.net/archives/Rednecks.jpg

http://www.borkowski.co.uk/archives/liquidsoap/redneck2-300.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6060/reneckslifestyle36nv1.jpg

http://trailertrashale.com/imagez/leader.jpg

http://www.gazzola.us/MTP/Images/owners.jpg

http://myspace-916.vo.llnwd.net/00049/61/92/49422916_m.jpg

http://flippingpages1.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/redneck2.jpg

http://www.celebnewswire.com/britney%20spears%20and%20kevin%20federline.jpg

Meerkat
January 15th, 2008, 10:54 PM
^ very classy.

Capn_Birdseye
January 16th, 2008, 11:53 AM
I must defend the scousers, whilst we southerners like to take the mickey out of them, on the whole, apart from the scallies, they're a likeable bunch of people with a great sense of humour, well you'd have that living in Liverpool! :)
I wouldn't put them on a par with red-necks, they're a whole different ball game.

BenL
January 16th, 2008, 05:53 PM
Liverpool is a great city, unlikely to be hurt by narrow-minded generalisations. When did you last visit?

Capn_Birdseye
January 17th, 2008, 02:27 PM
Liverpool is a great city, unlikely to be hurt by narrow-minded generalisations. When did you last visit?
(1) Back up your assertion that Liverpool is a great city, (and please don't quote the fact that its been voted city of culture!) - even the Beatles wouldn't live there, they got out and moved south as soon as they could!
Compared to London its a cultural backwater and its only claim to fame are the two footballl clubs, but even then Man. Utd, Chelsea & Arsenal over shadow them.
(2) I have visited Liverpool only a couple of times thankfully, as I travel north of Watford as little as possible, well theres no reason to, everything is in London.

http://www.chavtowns.co.uk/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=543

zupermaus
January 17th, 2008, 03:41 PM
Its funny how all great scousers constantly top up how great the place is whilst living as far away as possible, Cilla, the Beatles, I could go on, in their stately mansions in the safety of the Surrey countryside.

Why was John Lennon airport so named?

Because it was the first place he went after he became famous.

^apparently that joke did NOt go down well at a comedy club recently...

BenL
January 17th, 2008, 08:14 PM
(1) Back up your assertion that Liverpool is a great city, (and please don't quote the fact that its been voted city of culture!) - even the Beatles wouldn't live there, they got out and moved south as soon as they could!
Compared to London its a cultural backwater and its only claim to fame are the two footballl clubs, but even then Man. Utd, Chelsea & Arsenal over shadow them.
(2) I have visited Liverpool only a couple of times thankfully, as I travel north of Watford as little as possible, well theres no reason to, everything is in London.

http://www.chavtowns.co.uk/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=543

I would hope I could back up my assertion with something better than your linked "Liverpool is ****ing so awful and full of chavs and SCOUSERS!" It's quite a difficult thing to back up considering I was only stating a point of view. Greatness is subjective: it depends what you think makes a great city. Of course Liverpool can't compare to London, it's like trying to make a comparison between Miami and New York. And John Lennon rejected London for New York...

If you're wanting facts and figures, then Liverpool is:
Home to the largest modern art gallery in the UK after the Tate Modern
Home to more museums and galleries than any British city apart from London
Home to six major theatres, with the likes of Ian McKellen, Anthony Hopkins, Bill Nighy and Julie Walters starting their careers in the city
A UNESCO World Heritage site certified waterfront
Hugely musically significant, with Echo & The Bunnymen, the Coral, the Zutons, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Sugababes, Elvis Costello, the Beatles etc. etc. hailing from the city and as of this year, one of the UK's largest arenas, with a 11,000 capacity. As far as classical music is concerned, it is home to one of the world's oldest orchestras.
As far as architecture is concerned, the city has 2,500 listed buildings by the likes of Gilbert Scott and Lutyens (of which 26 are Grade I listed and 85 are Grade II* listed). Some of the most impressive include the Moorish revival Princes Road Synagogue (http://www.princesroad.org/syn_princes_road.jpg), neo-classical World Museum Liverpool (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/Liverpool_Museum_And_Library_Steps.jpg), the modernist Niemeyer-esque Metropolitan Cathedral (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/Liverpool_Metropolitan_Cathedral.jpg/634px-Liverpool_Metropolitan_Cathedral.jpg), the Albert Docks (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/Albert_Docks_Liverpool.jpg) (the largest collection of Grade 1 listed buildings in the UK, the Royal Liver Building (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b1/Liver_building_ap.jpg)(one of the earliest examples of multi-storey reinforced concrete construction and the inspiraton for New York's Manhattan Municipal Building), the Edward Baroque Port of Liverpool Building (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Port_of_Liverpool_Building_Front.jpg), Liverpool Cathedral (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Liverpool_Anglican_Cathedral_North_elevation.jpg) (one of the largest in the world), the neo-classical Walker Art Gallery (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/15/Walker_Art_Gallery_Liverpool.jpg) and St. George's Hall (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/St_George%27s_Hall%2C_Liverpool.JPG)
You can smirk at the City of Culture all you like, but it as provided the catalyst for major investment including a 1bn redevelopment project (http://www.liverpoolpsda.co.uk/) in the city centre, an impressive new museum (http://www.arcspace.com/architects/3nielsen/ml/3nielsen.jpg) and huge commerical developments (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=218577) including one of the country's tallest skyscrapers outside of London and planned 5.5 billon development (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v421/Martin_S/DevelopmentSummary/liverpoolwaters1.jpg).
Two major Premier league football clubs, including the most successful English football club of all time, Liverpool FC
The oldest Chinatown in EuropeI could go on. Frankly, I only go up there about once a year but I really feel sorry for you if you can be so ignorant to think everything in the UK is in the south, speaking as someone who has always lived in south.

Meerkat
January 18th, 2008, 02:13 AM
I have visited Liverpool only a couple of times thankfully, as I travel north of Watford as little as possible, well theres no reason to, everything is in London.


But Captain, I thought London was a hell hole - you recently said in another thread:confused:

Capn_Birdseye
January 18th, 2008, 05:39 AM
BenL, you have obviously taken a lot of your info from the Visit North West website, or if not, then all I can say is it seems very similar. But please don't believe all you read - check out all the stuff posted when Glasgow was European City of Culture in 1991, the spiel is the same!

Please allow me to correct you on the birth place of Elvis Costello, he was born on 25th August 1954 in Paddington, London. His father was/is Ross McManus, who used to sing with the Joe Loss Orchestra, a London-based band. Even his father moved out of Liverpool!

I think it says it all when Liverpool's biggest tourist attraction is the Albert Docks & the Odeon 10-screen cinema!!

http://www.visitnorthwest.com/liverpool/attractions.htm

Here is the virtual tour of "exciting" Liverpool, (don't go to sleep watching it!) - it seems to concentrate more on hotels than anything else!

http://www.visitnorthwest.com/liverpool/virtual-tour-liverpool.htm

BenL
January 18th, 2008, 06:33 AM
It's a crap video produced very cheaply. I'm sure any video filmed in Virtual Earth would be as boring. I didn't say Elvis Costello was born in Liverpool; he formed his first band there. I don't know where you get the idea a cinema gets as many tourists visiting it as the Albert Docks, with its 4 million visitors a year (more than any multi-user attraction in the UK outside of London).

For those who don't know the Albert Docks:


http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/BenL26/pierheadhdr.jpg


http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/BenL26/harrymoon_albertdock.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/BenL26/905404.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/BenL26/902335.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/BenL26/lb_liv__1177920542_albert_dock_new_.jpg

Capn_Birdseye
January 18th, 2008, 07:11 AM
I don't know where you get the idea a cinema gets as many tourists visiting it as the Albert Docks
The Odeon cinmea is listed on the Visit North East site as one of Liverpool's major attractions - fact.
With regard to the Albert Docks, well the pictures you posted are very nice but I have to say it doesn't excite me as a destination!

Now look at London ....

http://www.buyimage.co.uk/photonet/canary/canary.html

http://www.earth-photography.com/Countries/England/London_photos.html

BenL
January 18th, 2008, 07:24 AM
I know what London looks like. I live there. I'm sure the Odeon is listed on the Visit Liverpool site, that's a decision made by the tourism agency but doesn't reflect a parity of the cinema with the Albert Docks, does it?

Capn_Birdseye
January 18th, 2008, 12:34 PM
I'm sure the Odeon is listed on the Visit Liverpool site, that's a decision made by the tourism agency but doesn't reflect a parity of the cinema with the Albert Docks, does it?
But it does indicate how they've got to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find "attractions"!

Anyway I think Bath had more a stronger entitlement to be City of Culture than Liverpool, but hey, once politics gets involved what chance has a nice Tory town like Bath got against a Labour controlled town like Liverpool?

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=163490&command=displayContent&sourceNode=163316&contentPK=19594939&folderPk=89126&pNodeId=163047

Why is the organisation already a mess with in-fighting? It doesn't bode well for the future. See link:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/31/nculture131.xml

BenL
January 18th, 2008, 01:15 PM
Liverpool has been under Lib Dem control for over 9 years. At moment, they have 51 seats to Labour's 35. It beat a joint bid from Newcastle (Labour when the decision was made) and Gateshead (Labour).

zupermaus
January 19th, 2008, 05:44 AM
Bath has, since 1992, been Liberal Democrat too, from whence its gone from strength to strength :). The Conservatives wrecked the town before that (since 1974), they wanted to build all manner of shite and carparks, and completely stemmed the cultural and artistic scene to be replaced by mass tourism...

Meerkat
January 19th, 2008, 04:35 PM
Oh no, you're not a liberal democrat. Please say it's not true Zupermaus.


But it does indicate how they've got to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find "attractions"!


There is plenty to do in Liverpool, nicely summed up by Ben. I spent a very interesting day exploring the city, and bearing in mind the state Liverpool was in during its decline during the 1970's / 80's, its gone through massive regeneration. The Albert Dock is fascinating (Liverpool's waterfront is a UNESCO world heritage site) - it would certainly be a city i would advise tourists to visit.

Its easy to dismiss Liverpool, but i think it doing fine.

And as i said before captain, i was under the impression that you thought London was a complete dump. Could it be that you've changed your mind?????

zupermaus
January 20th, 2008, 06:36 AM
Meerkat, tiz a matter of time before you are replicated and we can all become little glowing friends. We know where you live.

Meerkat
January 20th, 2008, 04:19 PM
^ so i'm going to get 'done over' by Menzies Campbell am i? I'll take him on any day - i've got a cricket bat at home.

zupermaus
January 21st, 2008, 06:57 AM
ah what a thought, Ming doing you over. Imagine how red he'd get.

Meerk, youd be squealing for more.