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January 20th, 2008, 11:16 PM
Giants finally kick the Packers out of the playoffs ... and will face the undefeated Pats in the Super Bowl


Giants 23, Packers 20, O.T.
Giants Stun Packers and Head to the Super Bowl


David J. Phillip/Associated Press
New York Giants kicker Lawrence Tynes celebrates after kicking the game-winning field goal in overtime.

Lawrence Tynes kicked a 47-yard field goal in overtime to belatedly and unexpectedly send the Giants to Super Bowl XLII where they will play the undefeated New England Patriots.

SOURCE (http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/index.html)


January 20th, 2008, 11:46 PM
They're gonna be defeated pretty damn soon!

January 21st, 2008, 12:37 AM
Blue Cheeseheads beat Wisconsin Cheddar Cheeseheads

January 21st, 2008, 11:10 AM
Got a splitting headache (free shots), but it's worth it!

What's the temperature?


January 21st, 2008, 11:34 AM

Patriots win return trip to Super Bowl to confront Giants and history

By Dan Shaughnessy, Globe Staff | January 21, 2008 (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2008/01/21/18_down_1_to_go/)

FOXBOROUGH - Their relentless quest for perfection is almost complete. The undefeated New England Patriots need just one more victory to establish themselves as the 1927 Yankees of football: Greatest team ever.

The journey started one year ago today when the Patriots were humbled by the Indianapolis Colts in the AFC Championship game. The Patriots returned to the conference title game yesterday and beat the San Diego Chargers, 21-12, at frosty Gillette Stadium to advance to Super Bowl XLII.

The Patriots belong to the world now. There'll be no more games this season in the icy Foxborough football palace where the end zones are paved with gold. Already owning the best record in league history (18-0), walking where no NFL cleats have trod, the 2007-08 Patriots will play the New York Giants in the uber game in Glendale, Ariz., one week from Sunday.

Only one team in pro football history ever finished undefeated and the Patriots already have won more games than the 1972 Miami Dolphins (17-0).

"I'm happy we could win this at home, with all of you," Patriots owner Bob Kraft told the sellout crowd as he hoisted the Lamar Hunt Trophy after the final whistle sounded early last night. "We did what has never been done before."

Ever-stoic Patriots coach Bill Belichick told the fans, "All the credit goes to the players. The players played great all year and they did today. I'm really lucky to coach this team. Now we can look ahead."

Looking ahead is what the Patriots studiously avoided since early September. As they piled win upon win, they were asked about their place in history and always they stopped the music and recited the mantra: "We're just thinking about the next game."

Finally, the next game is the big game, the game that can seal their place in history.

Veteran linebacker Tedy Bruschi, who has been around since Bill Parcells took the Patriots to Super Bowl XXI against the Packers after the 1996-97 season, said, "If there was a time I felt any pressure this year it was before the final game against the Giants. We realized [a 16-0 regular season record] was possible to be achieved. There was history on the line all year."

History walks hand-in-hand with these Patriots. They have won three Super Bowls since 2001-02, but no NFL team has finished 19-0.

Since closing the regular season with a 38-35 win over the Giants at the Meadowlands, the Patriots have faced the prospect of an ignominious ending. Losing any playoff game, particularly one before the Super Bowl, would have made them targets of ridicule. The September Spygate episode and a succession of games in which they ran up the score made the Patriots the target of jealous fans around the nation.

Playing at home against the Eagles after Thanksgiving, the Patriots demonstrated new vulnerability and have been repeatedly tested in close games since beating Philadelphia, 31-28. Yesterday was no exception. The wounded Chargers intercepted Tom Brady three times and trailed by only 2 points (14-12) after three quarters. It was a pretty good showing for a team playing without the NFL's leading rusher (LaDainian Tomlinson carried the ball twice in the first quarter, then went to the sideline for the rest of the day because of a knee injury).

Last weekend the Chargers advanced to the AFC title game with a gutty upset of the defending Super Bowl champion Colts in Indianapolis. But the victory came at an enormous price. Tomlinson and quarterback Philip Rivers were wounded at the RCA Dome and all-world tight end Antonio Gates aggravated a toe injury. Gates was able to make only two catches yesterday and Rivers hobbled through the full four quarters, looking like the Knicks' Willis Reed limping at Madison Square Garden in the 1970 NBA Finals.

All of the above hindered the visitors at Gillette, but it was New England's ageless defense that kept the Chargers out of the end zone. Three times San Diego advanced inside New England's 10-yard line and failed to come away with a touchdown. It was the difference.

Brady, meanwhile, completed 22 of 33 passes, including two touchdown strikes, but was bothered by the three interceptions. New England's offense repeatedly was rescued by Laurence Maroney (122 yards on 25 carries) and Kevin Faulk (eight catches, 82 yards).

The Patriots led, 14-9, at halftime but the Chargers looked ready to take a third quarter lead when they moved the ball to the New England 4-yard line. That's when 39-year-old Junior Seau stuffed Michael Turner for a 2-yard loss on third down, forcing yet another Nate Kaeding field goal.

New England made it a two-score game with an eight-play, 67-yard drive to take a 21-12 lead early in the fourth quarter. The Chargers took over, moved the ball to the Patriot 36, then inexplicably punted on fourth and 10 with 9:21 left. A bold move, it was not. In the fine tradition of former coach Marty Schottenheimer, Norv Turner had clinched defeat for San Diego. The Chargers never got the ball again.

"Every time I've played in the Super Bowl, I've cherished that," said Brady. "It never gets old. Standing up there and accepting the Lamar Hunt Trophy for the fourth time is pretty outstanding."

The next trophy is the Lombardi Trophy. That's the one you get when you win the Super Bowl.

January 21st, 2008, 04:46 PM
You think the Patriots would like some Brat?

January 21st, 2008, 07:34 PM
Got a splitting headache (free shots), but it's worth it!





I sure hope they can pull off one more Big Blue-underdog surprize. For the mother of all upsets....oh baby just thinking about it!

January 21st, 2008, 11:36 PM
The Jersey Boys are gonna pull it out. The Giants have led the NFL in sacks and just became the first team to beat 3 staight previous Super Bowl Champs. They also are the first Wild Card team to make it this far.

Eli Manning has shown great poise and has literally grown up before our eyes. The Giants have improved since that Patriots game at the end of the season and they almost beat them then.

The Giants are poised to pull of the upset.

January 22nd, 2008, 02:35 AM
Giants aren't planning ... to serve as the Washington Generals for New England's Globetrotters-like run at 19-0 history ...


Perfection ruined? Giants relish that thought

By Brian Heyman, The (Westchester, N.Y.) Journal News

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. — The New York Giants were still coming down from the high of living through sudden-death overtime in the NFC Championship Game in Green Bay on Sunday night. And they were still reveling Monday over the Super-sized reward — a rematch with the perfect New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLII.

They might be early two-touchdown underdogs, but the Giants aren't planning on walking into University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, Ariz., on Feb. 3, to serve as the Washington Generals for New England's Globetrotters-like run at 19-0 history — certainly not after a record 10 straight wins on the road.

The Giants want to finish the job.

Photo by Robert Deutsch,

"The atmosphere is going to be incredible," said wide receiver Plaxico Burress, fresh off his huge 11-catch, 154-yard night against the Packers. "We can't really even imagine what it's going to be like. We're just looking forward to the opportunity to compete for a world championship. That's why you're in this business, to win world championships.

"You're not just satisfied with just getting there. You want to win the game."

The team arrived home early Monday morning from their thrilling 23-20 win over the Packers and later reconvened at Giants Stadium for strength and conditioning work and a midday meeting.

Coach Tom Coughlin will give the players a chance to rest for the next two days before returning on Thursday to begin three days of practice. The Giants had nothing at stake but ruining history the last time they played the Patriots on Dec. 29 at the Meadowlands, and held a 12-point lead in the third quarter. But New England rallied for a 38-35 win, giving it the unprecedented 16-0 regular season.

Now the Giants are getting a second chance to ruin the Patriots' perfection.

"When you lose to a team, you always want to have a chance to avenge yourself," Burress said. "Who could have ever thought that we would have an opportunity to compete with those guys who they're saying is the greatest team in football history with their dynamic offense? They're just an all-around great team. And we have a chance to compete against them for a world championship. You couldn't ask for a better position to be in."

The Giants' ride to the Arizona desert really took on fuel with that last game against the Patriots. There was the great debate: Should Coughlin rest his starters or play to win the game? He played to win the game. And though he didn't, the Giants saw that they could play with the best.

"I think we learned a lot about ourselves and about our team in that game," Shaun O’Hara said. "I think that game really kind of set the tone for believing in each other and believing in the talent on the team. When we're not playing bad football, when we're eliminating turnovers and penalties, we're a good football team."

And when their quarterback plays mistake-free football, the brand he has been playing this month, they have a chance to win every game, including the next one.

The Giants reached the Super Bowl in large part because they haven't committed an offensive turnover in their postseason road sweep through Tampa Bay, Dallas and Green Bay. Eli Manning has seemingly taken a step forward in his development, making good decisions with the ball. It started with the New England game when he threw for four touchdowns and only one interception.

Manning knows he and his team will have to be at their best to outduel the Patriots' 50-touchdown MVP, Tom Brady, and his teammates.

"We thought we played pretty well against them, but we didn't play perfect," Manning said. "We made enough mistakes to put us in a situation where they won the game. We know now we are going to have to play great football to beat them because they are a heck of a team. ... We are going to have to go in with the mind-set that we have to play perfect."

The Giants have another mind-set right now. They're happy to embrace their huge underdog status.

"It's not a slap in the face because we've been underdogs everywhere," running back Brandon Jacobs said. "It doesn't matter if it's two points or 21 points. We just keep proving everyone wrong."

Copyright 2008 USA TODAY, a division of Gannett Co. Inc.

USA TODAY Source (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/giants/2008-01-21-patriots-motivation_N.htm)

January 22nd, 2008, 04:07 AM
Sunday's game was really the only Giants game I have watched this year (yeah, I'm not much of a football fan anymore) and I have to say Plaxico Burress was really good. Armani Toomer not so much although I have a feeling he'll redeem himself come Superbowl Sunday.

Eli was also very good as well. Of course, their defensive line is really the reason why they're winning. Strahan, Umenyiora and company are tough.

Giants looks like they are the team of destiny and will upset the Patriots.

January 22nd, 2008, 04:13 AM
^Yeah, but if you watched the Pats game, you have to wonder if that D-line will hold up against the likes of Maroney. That guy did some work against the Chargers, on a day when Brady to Moss/Welker wasn't working nearly as well as it usually does.

Don't get me wrong, I'll still be rooting for the Giants.

January 22nd, 2008, 04:23 AM
Well, they did play them the last game of the season a few weeks ago, and if I remember correctly, the Giants' line did pretty well.

The second time around usual favors the team that lost the previous time and with the added confidence that game gave to the Giants, I think that will bring them over the top.

January 22nd, 2008, 09:04 AM
I wish Mathias Kiwanuka was back.

January 22nd, 2008, 10:00 AM
Tom Brady dropping in on his supermodel girlfriend, Gisele Bundchen's apartment in NY yesterday, holding flowers and wearing a cast.

bostonherald.com (http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1068152)

tsn.ca (http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/news_story/?ID=227902)

January 22nd, 2008, 12:07 PM
Down goes Brady, Down goes Brady!!!

Oh I wish, but make no mistake he will play on Super Bowl XXII

January 22nd, 2008, 12:47 PM


January 23rd, 2008, 01:48 AM
I love all the NY papers making a big deal out of the Brady cast, and calling him all sorts of names in the process. Have they not learned a damn thing all year?

This fodder gets absorbed as motivation by them, and not one person or entity who's opened their cakehole against them this year has gotten their desired results from it. I'll come out and say I'm rooting for the Pats here, but sheesh, why play into their game??

January 24th, 2008, 03:08 PM
A sampling of the exchange between two 'papers. The New York Post shoots first over the ramparts:


Front Page Headline:

Who's afraid of Tom Brady now?
Girlie man limps home with Blooms in Hand,
Brace on Foot




Flower boy Tom Brady,
whose New England Patsies
will face the Super Giants,
wears a booty as he hobbles home
to Gisele Bundchen in the Village ...

January 22, 2008 -- Tom Brady hasn't been brutally beaten down by the Giants yet - but at least the petal-pushing flower boy is limping.

The cocky quarterback for the undefeated* New England Patriots was caught hobbling to the West Village home of his gal pal, Gisele Bundchen, yesterday - carrying a box of pretty little posies.

A day after the Pats' win over the San Diego Chargers propelled them to the Super Bowl against the Giants, Brady sported an orthopedic, open-foot brace on his right leg as he struggled with luggage and the box of white flowers.

Brady was later spotted wearing the boot and hobbling out of the East Village nightspot Butter, with Gisele, early this morning.

The booty - known as a cam walker - is a good sign for the Big Blue faithful, according to Hospital for Special Surgery foot and ankle expert Dr. Rock Positano.

"When they put you in a cam walker, that usually means you're hurting," Positano told The Post, after viewing stills and video of the gimpy quarterback. "He's sustained some kind of trauma that requires immobilization. This is not just a simple strain or a sprain."

Positano was betting that Brady had suffered trauma to his metatarsals - bones toward the front of the foot - or the Achilles' tendon, located near the heel.

"Achilles' injuries are very difficult to treat," he said. "You don't come back from an Achilles' injury in a week. The fact that he's in a cam walker should make Giants fans very optimistic, and should certainly make Michael Strahan, or any defenseman who sees that, salivate."

Vegas oddsmakers have the Pats defeating the scrappy Giants by 12_ points, but that could all be in flux depending on how badly Brady's foot is banged up.

He played down any pain he may have endured Sunday, even though at the game's end, he appeared to be gimpy.

"Ah, you know, there is always just kinds of bumps and bruises. I'll be ready for the Super Bowl. I'm not missing this one," he told Boston's WEEI radio.

But the Giants weren't picturing a Super Bowl without Brady just yet.

"It doesn't matter. He's got two weeks [to heal]," said running back Brandon Jacobs who was celebrating with teammates at The Plumm in Chelsea last night. "The guy's gonna play."
Officially, the Patriot front office pleaded ignorance. "You have more information than I do," said spokesman Stacey James.
Meanwhile, tickets for the Super Bowl in Phoenix soared to $10,000 on eBay, and brokers hoped to make a killing.

Back at Giants Stadium, quarterback Eli Manning humbly admitted he has come into his own as a gridiron star, just like big brother Peyton of the Indianapolis Colts, after defeating the Green Bay Packers 23-20.

"I talked to [Peyton] last night briefly, and he just said, 'I am proud of you. Congratulations. This is fun. Take it all in, and enjoy it,' " the younger Manning, 27, said of a Sunday phone call with his 31-year-old brother.

That advice may include how to beat a team that plays dirty.

The Pats' 18-0 record is marred by the "Spygate" incident last September, when the team was caught videotaping the New York Jets' hand signals. Since then, The Post has noted the Pats' record with an asterisk for cheating - and the rest of the nation's media has followed.

"It is going to be a tough game, but we have been playing our best football," Eli said. He also seemed excited his fiancée's "jinx" is broken.

Every time his college sweetheart, Abby McGrew, watched him play from a luxury box, the Giants lost. But not Sunday night.

"She sat inside, and I guess we broke the jinx," he said.

Additional reporting by Don Kaplan, Kelly Magee and Tim Perone

Copyright 2008 NYP Holdings, Inc. All rights reserved.

NY Post Source (http://www.nypost.com/seven/01222008/news/regionalnews/flowery_tom_a_posy_patsie_888537.htm?page=0)

January 24th, 2008, 03:40 PM
... Boston Herald responds to fire.


Front Page Headline:



Hub new king of the hill

N.Y’s. inferiority complex on display as Boston’s little town blues melt away

By Steve Buckley

Thursday, January 24, 2008 -

A lot of people are going to work very hard over the next 10 days to turn Super Bowl XLII into yet another exercise in which pint-sized, self-conscious Boston dares to step into the ring with powerful, glitzy New York.

Somebody will truck out the old story about the Red Sox selling Babe to the Yankees. It will be noted that New York gets the smashmouth, blockbuster Broadway shows, while Boston must settle for tryouts and national tours. New York’s superiority in deli, pizza and Irish bars will be trumpeted.

But while it’s true Boston sports fans used to be jumping up and down and hollering, “Pick me! Pick me!” whenever they were in the same classroom with their peers from New York, a change in centuries brought about a change in attitude.

Boston sports fans just don’t give a damn what New Yorkers think any more.

Sorry, New York, but Boston sports fans have too much going on to pay attention to whatever it is you happen to be whining about this week, last week or next week. And while this may read as though it were cleared first with the Greater Boston Convention and Visitors Bureau, it’s not hometown boosterism.

It’s fact.

Having just watched the Red Sox win their second World Series in four years, the Boston sports fans now are watching to see if the Patriots can complete their perfect season with a victory over the New York Giants in Super Bowl XLII. And the day after the Super Bowl ends, or, the day after the latest rolling rally through the streets of Boston ends, bleary-eyed fans will turn their attention to the rebuilt Celtics, who happen to own the best record in the NBA.

And New York? Where once the Red Sox owned the East Coast distribution rights in choking, that industry now belongs to New York. The Yankees, absent of a World Series championship this century, are the owners of the biggest postseason choke in sports history, what with their collapse against the Red Sox in the 2004 American League Championship Series.

The Mets, not to be outdone, are coming off one of the biggest regular-season chokes in history.

Manhattan’s NBA franchise, the Knicks, has become the biggest laughingstock in professional sports. And New York can’t even prop up its hockey club, the Rangers, in an attempt to outshine the Bruins. While both teams play ugly, the Rangers are just a little uglier.

Football? I guess the Jets would be preparing for the Super Bowl this very moment had it not been for Bill Belichick’s video camera way back in Week 1. That’s why the New York Post, week after week, after week, after week, after . . . week, after zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, has been putting the (* caught cheating) next to the Patriots in the NFL standings.

Look, Belichick did something stupid, got caught doing something stupid, and now has to write a fat check to the NFL and, oh, yeah, forfeit the Pats’ first-round pick in the next draft. But Belichick’s camera boy was carted off the field some eight minutes into that season-opener against the Jets. Since then, the Pats are 18-0. The Jets went 4-12, and their coach, Eric Mangini, now spends his time Googling his name and “dime dropper.”

Now it’s the Pats vs. the plucky Giants in the Super Bowl, and the Post noticed a limp in Pats quarterback Tom Brady’s step. Was that some kind of walking cast Brady was wearing the other day as he exited the crib he shares with Gisele?

“Girlie man limps home,” harrumphed the Post.

And so it will continue, right through Super Bowl XLII. Only nobody in Boston will be listening, or reading.

It’s not Boston vs. New York. It’s the Patriots vs. the Giants.

© Copyright by the Boston Herald and Herald Media.

Boston Herald Source (http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1068664&srvc=home&position=2)

January 24th, 2008, 03:47 PM
Boston sports fans just don’t give a damn what New Yorkers think any more.
Not if this article is any indication. The obsession continues, they were born with it, they will die with it.

January 25th, 2008, 03:41 PM
Pats fans a cut above

Giants outclassed on the field and in the stands

http://cache.heraldinteractive.com/images/siteImages/reporters/jessica_heslam50.gif By Jessica Heslam
Friday, January 25, 2008 - Updated 1h ago

Boston Herald Media Reporter
Reporter Jessica Heslam covers the media for the Boston Herald.

New England Patriots (http://patriots.bostonherald.com/patriots.bg) [team stats (http://scores.heraldinteractive.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=bostonherald&page=nfl/teams/077/team.aspx?id=077)] fans are smarter, classier and healthier and own pricier homes than the riff-raff who root for the New York Giants - and now we’ve got the research to back it up.

Some 62 percent of Pats fans living in the Boston area earned a bachelor’s or postgraduate degree or have some higher-education experience, compared to 59 percent of Giants fans, according to the latest marketing data provided by the Nielsen Co., the TV ratings firm.
Likewise, 72 percent of Pats fans live in homes worth north of $200,000, compared to 63 percent of Giants yahoos, the Nielsen data show.

That’s just for starters.
Pats fans consistently show better taste than their Gotham counterparts, according to Nielsen.
We drink Amstel Light, not Bud Light. Giants fans slug back lots of whiskey.
We are likely to read connoisseur magazines like Wine Spectator. Gotham fans like to pig out on junk food like pretzels, chips and nuts. They’re also less likely to favor organic food than other New Yorkers.

Giants tailgaters are conspicuous consumers who party off the backs of Land Rovers and showy BMW SUVs. Pats fans are more likely to tailgate off the back of an understated Lexus or a sturdy Volvo SUV.
When Pats revelers aren’t watching football, they’re hitting the slopes skiing or going for a sail. They’re also more likely to belong to country clubs.
When Giants fans aren’t booing Giants coach Tom Coughlin or punk quarterback Eli Manning in that New Jersey stadium they call home, they’re out practicing their tennis backhands in the backyard.

None of these marketing revelations came as a surprise to Mike Schuster, 45, who lives in the shadow of Gillette Stadium in Foxboro.
“Boston fans are much classier,” said Schuster, a real estate agent and software consultant who is heading out to Arizona for the Super Bowl. “Have you ever been to Yankee stadium? I mean, they boo their own players.”

“Bostonians, in general, are better educated,” Schuster added. “New Yorkers have to send their kids to Boston to educate them.”
It’s also worth noting that the Patriots are an equal opportunity franchise, drawing more female fans than the competition. Nearly half of all Pats backers - about 43 percent - are women. In Giants country, just 31 percent of the fans are female.

Pats fans are also more Web savvy, some 63 percent have broadband Internet connection.
Of course, though we may hate to admit it, fans on both sides of the turf do have some similarities. The Nielsen data indicate that Pats and Giants fans are both likely to live in “affluent” suburbs or rural neighborhoods. They both buy “above average” amounts of beer, too, and they like to garden.

January 25th, 2008, 03:56 PM
^ :p What ever get you through your day New Englanders. :rolleyes:

Keep running your mouths the way the Cowboy fans did....please do.:)

January 25th, 2008, 04:41 PM
You know what's really sad... I have a friend who is a hardcore Yankee fan, yet she is rooting for the Pats... ew....

January 25th, 2008, 08:28 PM
Pats fans a cut above

Giants outclassed on the field and in the stands

By Jessica Heslam

How classy. Someone should teach her how to pat herself on the back without consuming 600 words and five minutes of my time.

January 28th, 2008, 12:07 PM
Pretentious snob demonstrates Bostonions' preoccupation with New York.

January 30th, 2008, 01:07 AM
This stadium makes an architectural statement.



http://bp2.blogger.com/_5VY9sRYn09Y/Ra-VcUYc3QI/AAAAAAAAAAM/SUY9xjUvVx4/s320/1-University_of_Phoenix_Stadium_PP.jpg (http://bp2.blogger.com/_5VY9sRYn09Y/Ra-VcUYc3QI/AAAAAAAAAAM/SUY9xjUvVx4/s1600-h/1-University_of_Phoenix_Stadium_PP.jpg)


January 30th, 2008, 01:10 AM
It must get crazy LOUD inside there when they slide that roof shut.

January 30th, 2008, 01:20 AM
Stadium website (http://www.universityofphoenixstadium.com/)

January 30th, 2008, 09:10 PM
Pretentious snob demonstrates Bostonions' preoccupation with New York.

I've been meaning to ask this for a few days. Can anyone tell me why Bostonions' hate NYC so much??

January 30th, 2008, 09:19 PM
Provincialism... of NYers :p

February 3rd, 2008, 12:16 AM
Patriots, NFL Deny New Spying Allegationhttp://www.breitbart.com/images/common/dot.gif

Associated Press (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UIGE500&show_article=1)
Feb 2, 2008

PHOENIX (AP) - A member of the New England Patriots' video staff taped the St. Louis Rams' last walkthrough before the 2002 Super Bowl, a Boston newspaper reported Saturday. The NFL, however, said it was satisfied this was not another Spygate.

"We were aware of the rumor months ago and looked into it. There was no evidence of it on the tapes or in the notes produced by the Patriots, and the Patriots told us it was not true," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told The Associated Press.

Citing an unidentified source, the Boston Herald reported that a Patriots employee recorded the Rams' walkthrough at the Superdome in the New Orleans a day before the Super Bowl. New England beat the heavily favored Rams 20-17 its first NFL title.

The Herald reported that a source close to the Patriots in the 2001 season said the team held a walkthrough at the Superdome in New Orleans before the game on Feb. 3, 2002. After the Patriots took a team picture, a member of their video department stayed inside the stadium and taped the Rams' session.

It was not known whether the cameraman was told by the Patriots to film the practice or what he did with the tape, the Herald said. The Rams were two-touchdown favorites, but lost on Adam Vinatieri's last- second field goal.

"The suggestion that the New England Patriots recorded the St. Louis Rams' walkthrough on the day before Super Bowl XXXVI is absolutely false. Any suggestion to the contrary is untrue," Patriots spokesman Stacey James told the AP.

Rams spokesman Rick Smith, reading a statement from team president John Shaw, said, "At this point, we have no comment."

The unbeaten Patriots will try to win their fourth Super Bowl in seven seasons Sunday when they play the New York Giants.

Early this season, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell fined New England coach Bill Belichick $500,000 and docked the team $250,000 and a first-round draft pick after the Spygate scandal. The Patriots were accused of videotaping New York Jets defensive coaches as they signaled to players.

New England did not have a walkthrough Saturday. The Giants held one at the Arizona Cardinals' practice facility.

A walkthrough is done without pads or helmets, giving teams a chance to practice their formations.

Goodell spent much of his state of the game address Friday talking about that episode. He said he did not think the Patriots used such tapes to win previous titles.

"There was no indication that it benefited them in any of the Super Bowl victories," he said.

Goodell also defended his decision to destroy notes and videotapes linked to the Spygate, saying "there was no purpose for them."

Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., who sent Goodell a letter asking for explanation, said Goodell's response "didn't make any sense at all."

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press.

February 3rd, 2008, 12:20 AM
If the Patriots do manage to go undefeated this season should there be an asterisk in the records book?

February 3rd, 2008, 11:43 AM
Dont worry Lofter, all its going to say is 18-1.

February 3rd, 2008, 06:59 PM
Time to head out and watch the game and tilt a few lagers. Go Giants!!

February 3rd, 2008, 11:01 PM
Still 19 seconds left in the game, but about 2 minutes ago Drudge Report put up this headline on the site ...


February 3rd, 2008, 11:10 PM
Dont worry Lofter, all its going to say is 18-1.

Still 19 seconds left in the game, but about 2 minutes ago Drudge Report put up this headline on the site ...


"Regardless of the year {the Patriots} had, the records they set, if they don't win the Super Bowl .... that means this season was ultimately a FAILURE."

February 3rd, 2008, 11:24 PM
Dont worry Lofter, all its going to say is 18-1.


February 3rd, 2008, 11:52 PM


February 3rd, 2008, 11:56 PM

I want to see the newspaper headline tomorrow with 18-1 and that pic.




****ing Legendary.

February 4th, 2008, 01:27 AM
I am so happy, it's been over three hours and I still haven't stopped smiling yet.


February 4th, 2008, 01:47 AM
Reached for comment, Gisele Bundchen had this to say;


"Eli, CALL ME!!"

February 4th, 2008, 02:52 AM
What a game!!! Finally NY sports take something away from boston. This pretty much makes up for the 04 alcs, for me at least.

February 4th, 2008, 07:58 AM
Courtesy Talking NFL / Brian

"No words describe what we [the Patriots] feel at this point …You can say it's just a game, but at end of the day we had an opportunity to be special and we let it slip away. It's disappointing that we came so close to being special ... we're second class.

That's the sign of a champion, what [the Giants] did …"

- 93 Richard Seymour DL
New England Patriots (http://www.nypost.com/seven/02042008/sports/giants/historic_footnote_727323.htm)

"… David Tyree's leaping 32-yard reception put New York within striking distance with under a minute to play." (New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/02/05/sports/20080204_SUPERBOWL_12.html))

Photo: Barton Sillverman/The New York Times

"Plaxico Burress's 13-yard touchdown catch with 35 seconds remaining was the climax of a remarkable Giants' comeback." (New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/02/05/sports/20080204_SUPERBOWL_14.html))

Photo: Doug Mills/The New York Times

Photo: Mike Blake/Reuters

February 4th, 2008, 09:25 AM
I knew the Giants could do it!!!


Play of the game...Manning's ability to keep his stance under pressure and make a pass completion to Tyree, one word BEAUTIFUL

February 4th, 2008, 11:28 AM
As I read more articles about the game yesterday, I am even more amazed at how impossibly incredible that feat the Giants pulled off was.

Apparently David Tyree isn't even a regular wide receiver. He's mostly a special teams player and what's even more startling about that unbelievable catch was that according to Armani Toomer, Tyree had been "dropping catches" all throughout Friday's practice.

Looking at the photos of the play, he had a Patriots defender on him literally trying to strip him of the ball, which he barely had control of to begin with, so for him to have caught it like that was nothing short of incredible. This is not even mentioning how close Eli came to getting sacked before throwing the ball to Tyree.

Nothing short of miraculous.

February 4th, 2008, 12:17 PM

"I admit, before the game it did seem like overkill to coat my helmet in glue, but it payed off." - David Tyree (not really)

February 4th, 2008, 12:37 PM

That says it all!

February 4th, 2008, 02:30 PM
so... anyone going to the parade????

February 4th, 2008, 03:13 PM
Giants Baby!


Just starting to recover from our 25th Super Bowl party. No work today...or tomorrow.

Gotta go to a parade (after voting).

February 4th, 2008, 03:43 PM
^^^ I'm going to the parade, but before voting (hey, polls don't close this 8 PM in Jersey)

February 4th, 2008, 05:51 PM
I have not seen a team play with this much heart since the Knicks of the mid 90's. The offese and especially the defense played their freaking hearts out. Goes to show that you can "outheart" talent and confidence.

So much crap I have been through with my teams like when Knicks lost all of those heartbreakers in the playoffs, the Mets loose to the Yankees in the WS and crapping up the division this year, the Giants getting embarrased against the Ravens and loosing the 49er game with all of those stupid bad snaps......
Its about time I got to celebrate.:)

Truly the most special game I have ever seen, filled with so much intensity and heart and magic......speaking of magic, Eli-to-Tyree has to go down as one of the most incredible plays that has ever been witnessed in all of sports. INCREDIBLE! Everytime I think of it I cant help but smile as I remember how the bar I was in Salty Dog in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn exploded with glee and utter disbelief. What a helluva of a escape/circus catch!! Then the huge TD to Buress led to beer, napkins flying all over the place. WOW!! BEAUTIFUL MAN!!!:D;)




****ing Legendary.

Legendary is right Eugenious


February 5th, 2008, 04:53 PM
Well, I went to the parade. Some members such as JCMAN was there (it was cool meeting you!). It was just AWESOME to see some many people come together like that. Truely amazing. I took some pics, I'll post them when I get the chance.

February 5th, 2008, 05:21 PM
^ Please do, would love to see them.

Next up is to see Eli go on the David Letterman show tomorrow (Wednesday night). :)

February 5th, 2008, 07:08 PM
I finally am able to type. What a SUPER BOWL! Didn't go to work yesterday - a self-proclaimed holiday. Couldn't get enough of the coverage on t.v. (not to mention one of the most sever hangovers in memory). Got to the office today just in time to look out the window all morning...

so... anyone going to the parade????

Saw it from my office. Then, after Eli, Strahan, and Coughlin passed, I went down into the crowd just to get a view from street level. Office view was better. Such an awesome and thrilling scene - even got a little choked up - to see people in NYC, mere feet away from the WTC site, so happy, Happy, HAPPY!

February 5th, 2008, 07:34 PM
Did you get to throw confetti out the window? Have you ever been to past ticker-tape parades and how did this one ranked up there as far as jubilation/revelry?

Can't you tell how much I had wanted to be there? :D

February 5th, 2008, 08:48 PM
There are Lower Manhattan parades, and there are all other parades.

This parade rates up there with the '96 World Series, which is the best I've seen.

Zippy in his natural habitat.
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4586/superbowl01ek6.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superbowl01ek6.jpg) http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/305/superbowl02mg4.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superbowl02mg4.jpg)

February 5th, 2008, 09:00 PM
^^ please tell me you're not the guy in the green jacket...

February 6th, 2008, 12:31 AM
Omega And I had so much fun. It was truly unbelievable. I was real close right against the baracades and got amazing pics. I made it to New Jersey's celebration with 20,000 people in the stadium it was great!! ALso went to the NJ Nets game tonight and my guys lost a heart breakers, but they'll bounce back like always.

February 6th, 2008, 11:03 AM
that was awesome! man.... however now I'm a little confused I shortened my work week by two days and I've nly been at work today for an hour and half but already it seems like a long week.. does that mean I want to go home and soak it in some more?


February 6th, 2008, 11:15 AM
Did you get to throw confetti out the window? Have you ever been to past ticker-tape parades and how did this one ranked up there as far as jubilation/revelry?
Yes, we got to throw confetti out the window, someone got bags of it from the lobby. Also threw toilet paper from the mens rooms and some old (and probably confidential) documents and reports out too from our offices and such.

I went to two other t-tape parades both after Yankee victories, this one seemed at least as jubilant as the others, but I had never seen the others from above, so it's hard to say. The streets could'nt get any more crowded and the cheers went up and down Broadway in literal waves. Some good stadium chants: DE-FENCE! G! I! A! N! T! S! GIANTS! etc...Awesome.

February 6th, 2008, 02:37 PM
Giants Take Manhattan, and It Takes to Them

Michael Strahan jumping on the podium and lifting his knees to his shoulders to demonstrate what he called
“stomping you out.”

Published: February 6, 2008 (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/06/sports/football/06giants.html)

The Giants surprised even their most ardent fans with their Super Bowl victory. On Tuesday, the new N.F.L. champions were the ones left awestruck.

Two days after beating the Patriots, 17-14, the Giants were honored with a rousing, confetti-laced parade up Broadway in Lower Manhattan, stopped for a pep rally at City Hall, and had a homecoming party at Giants Stadium.

“I’ve had so many goose bumps in one week’s time, it feels like they’re normal, like they’re supposed to be there,” Coach Tom Coughlin said.

The Giants played all their postseason games away from home. Tuesday was their chance to officially bring the N.F.L. championship back to New York and New Jersey. During the parade, Coughlin, quarterback Eli Manning and defensive end Michael Strahan shared a float and took turns holding the Vince Lombardi trophy.

Manning, the most valuable player in the Super Bowl, was serenaded often with choruses of “M.V.P.!” Strahan, pondering retirement, was showered with requests for “One more year!”

“It’s very tempting,” he told the crowd at City Hall.

On a cool and damp day, with the tops of skyscrapers dipped into the low clouds, the Giants boarded red, white and blue floats that took them up Broadway, the Canyon of Heroes route that has welcomed everyone from Charles Lindbergh to soldiers to the Yankees and the Rangers — but never a football team.

The Giants won the Super Bowl after the 1986 and the 1990 seasons, too.

There was no celebration the first time because Edward I. Koch, the mayor at the time, said that his city would not hold a parade for a team from New Jersey, where the Giants had moved a decade earlier. The second Super Bowl victory came only days after the start of the Gulf War, and a large celebration for a football team was deemed inappropriate.

There were no limitations to this party. Hundreds of thousands of fans, decked in the team’s colors and some with their faces painted, jammed sidewalks from the gutters to the storefronts. At intersections, like the one with Wall Street, the sea of smiling faces could be seen for two blocks or more. Silhouettes filled most of the office windows that could not open, and smiles, waving arms and overturned boxes of shredded paper popped out of the ones that could.

Strands of paper and toilet tissue stuck like icicles from window sills, flagpoles and street lights. Confetti turned the Canyon of Heroes into a deafening snow globe.

General Manager Jerry Reese, from Tiptonville, Tenn., laughed as he recalled previous parades he had attended. In his hometown, the Christmas parade had “one fire truck, a police car, a high school band and two floats.”

He added: “I’ve never seen anything like this before. It’s unbelievable.”

Many players held video cameras, aimed at the people who were aiming cameras right back at them.

“I felt like I could go out and play another game,” guard Chris Snee said. “So much energy, so much excitement. You can really see what it means to a city.”

The unofficial chant of the team — “Let’s go, Giants!” — echoed through the buildings. Also popular were many stabs at the Patriots, the 18-0 team that the Giants beat on Sunday.

“Eighteen and one!” was one popular chorus. So were more venomous ones aimed at Boston, which had celebrated five titles for the Red Sox and the Patriots since the last time New York was the site of a championship parade.

That was for the Yankees in 2000. The route, through Manhattan’s financial district, edges near the eastern flank of the World Trade Center site.

“I could not believe that that many people would come out,” said the Giants’ co-owner, John Mara. “To see them all dressed in blue, and to see the reaction of our players, to see how much they enjoyed it, that was the best part.”

One notable absentee was receiver Plaxico Burress, who caught the winning touchdown pass on Sunday with 35 seconds left. He attended the afternoon party at Giants Stadium, and said he did not go to the parade because he “was a little sore.”

Many fans held hand-scribbled signs, part of the short-hand postscript to an unexpected championship season. Promoting Manning for president was a popular idea. Some signs teased the Patriots — “18-Oh well” — or played off the spying scandal that has entangled them and their coach, Bill Belichick.

“Hey, Belichick, I hope you’re taping this,” one sign read.

At City Hall, several politicians — among them, Gov. Eliot Spitzer, Senator Charles Schumer and Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg — and Whoopi Goldberg gave short speeches that featured lots of exclamation points.

The Giants rode buses back under the Hudson River and to the Meadowlands. They did not expect to see Giants Stadium surrounded by cars, or one side of the lower bowl filled with vociferous fans.

“There’s one thing I realized, pulling into this parking lot,” Mara said, addressing the crowd while standing atop a stage set at the 50-yard line. “There’s no place like home.”

Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

February 6th, 2008, 02:57 PM
Apparently, "this bar got shut because they were pouring beers from the balcony into the mouths of the people on the street. it took 40 cops to clear everyone out!"

(click on pic for larger view)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2229/2244945362_82880e4896.jpg?v=0 (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2229/2244945362_82880e4896_b.jpg)

Johnnie Utah (http://flickr.com/photos/johnnieutah/2244945362/)

February 6th, 2008, 07:00 PM
lol ^^^ Am I the only one who find it ironic, that the bar's name is the "Patroit"?

February 6th, 2008, 09:13 PM
Does the Giants' win give new meaning to "Cheaters Never Prosper" :confused:

February 6th, 2008, 11:17 PM
The football gods were ver y very angry with the patriots and pleased with the Gmen...and people say Karma is a farce!

February 7th, 2008, 01:09 AM
Stadium: 'No place like home'

Wednesday, February 06, 2008
Star-Ledger Staff

While their parade through Lower Manhattan got more publicity, the Giants seemed to have almost as much fun in their afternoon pep rally at the Meadowlands.

"I thought the experience we had this morning, going through the Canyon of Heroes, was pretty special," co-owner John Mara told the crowd of about 20,000 inside Giants Stadium. "But I'll tell you -- I realized as soon as we came into this parking lot, there's no place like home!"

Mara later said he did a double-take when he saw one fan sprinkling what appeared to be someone's ashes on the field.

"I thought I saw everything," he said.

With State Senate President Richard Codey (D-Essex) firing up the crowd, the Giants got a chance to double up on the fun after their morning ticker-tape parade in lower Manhattan. And while some of the speeches were similar to the ones delivered in the earlier celebration, there was definitely a comfortable, Jersey feel to the afternoon party.

"It's finally good to hear some cheers at Giants Stadium," quarterback Eli Manning told the crowd, playfully acknowledging that many fans have been tough on him in his career.

Wide receiver David Tyree, whose circus catch on third down kept the game-winning drive alive, drew roars from the crowd when he took the football teammate Brandon Jacobs was holding and pinned it against the side of his head, as he'd done on that pivotal catch in the Super Bowl.

"This is New Jersey man," Tyree said later. "This is my home. That's for Essex County -- we had to 'style out' and do what we do. For Montclair, East Orange, Newark and Irvington, I love you."

JCMAN Note of The Nite:
Tyree is from Montclair, New Jersey and went to Montclair High. It's only fitting that guy from New Jersey makes the biggest catch in Super Bowl history!!! Also offensive lineman Shaun O'Hara is from Hillsborough New Jersey and went to Rutgers and he is one of the guys that aided Eli's great escape.

February 12th, 2008, 10:18 PM
I wonder how this imbecile feels now for writing this despicable piece of editorialism......

Pats fans a cut above

Giants outclassed on the field and in the stands

http://cache.heraldinteractive.com/images/siteImages/reporters/jessica_heslam50.gif By Jessica Heslam
Friday, January 25, 2008

Boston Herald Media Reporter
Reporter Jessica Heslam covers the media for the Boston Herald.

New England Patriots (http://patriots.bostonherald.com/patriots.bg) [team stats (http://scores.heraldinteractive.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=bostonherald&page=nfl/teams/077/team.aspx?id=077)] fans are smarter, classier and healthier and own pricier homes than the riff-raff who root for the New York Giants - and now we’ve got the research to back it up.

Some 62 percent of Pats fans living in the Boston area earned a bachelor’s or postgraduate degree or have some higher-education experience, compared to 59 percent of Giants fans, according to the latest marketing data provided by the Nielsen Co., the TV ratings firm.....Boston is the best, NYC sux.....blah, blah blah.


Like I said...

Keep running your mouths the way the Cowboy fans did....please do.:)

And Brady, with that you-know-what eating grin of his, did....

The 18-1 Patriots QB's exact quote....
"We're only going to score 17 points?" Brady said before chuckling about it. "OK. Is Plax playing defense? I wish he had said 45-42 and gave us a little credit for scoring more points."

The clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ2yK5C9Ae4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ2yK5C9Ae4)

Just what the Giants D needed to fire them up and play the game with the ferociousness that they did and here is what they got:

The short end of a play for the ages.......
(animations courtesy of Eugenious)



and the cherry on top....

Take that Brady!!!!!!!!
Your ass got ........


....by BIG BLUE!!!!!!!

April 30th, 2008, 10:04 PM
Bush Lauds Super Bowl Champion Giants

Eli Manning, the New York Giants quarterback, handed President Bush an autographed ball at the White House on

Published: April 30, 2008 (http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Bush-Giants.html)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Add this to the lore of championship ceremonies at the White House: President Bush believes in the Jessica Simpson jinx.

Bush, a Texas guy, lauded the New York Giants on Wednesday for winning the Super Bowl. Any football championship is big to the team and its fans, but this one was all the sweeter because it required a riveting, comeback effort against the New England Patriots, who were heavily favored and had not lost all year.

The president noted that along the way the Giants vanquished a team from his home state -- the Dallas Cowboys. Many Dallas fans pinned their team's surprise playoff loss not on the Giants, but on Simpson. Seems the singer-actress was accused of being a distraction to her boyfriend, Dallas quarterback Tony Romo.

Apparently, Bush bought in.

''I'm a good sport,'' Bush said at the South Lawn ceremony. ''We're going to send Jessica Simpson to the Democrat National Convention.''

Everything is political.

The Giants beat the Patriots, 17-14, in what was considered one of the biggest upsets in pro football history.

Even Bush, an early-to-bed leader, stayed up late that February night to watch the Giants pull ahead and hang on.

He didn't skimp on the superlatives. ''It turned out to be really one of the great, legendary football games in our nation's history,'' he said Wednesday.

With players and coached gathered behind him on a comfortable spring day, Bush praised the team for its resilience. The president gave a detailed recap of the Giants' season, from the shaky start to the road victories to the final game of the regular season, when the Giants lost to the Patriots but gained confidence.

''You won the gratitude of your fans. The New York Giants fans love these Giants,'' Bush said, drawing a burst of cheers from fans in Giant blue.

Front and center behind Bush was Giants quarterback Eli Manning, who endured enormous scrutiny in New York and emerged as the Super Bowl's Most Valuable Player.

The president, as usual, also thanked the players for their off-the-field volunteer work.

The team visited wounded troops at Walter Reed Army Medical Center earlier in the day. Some star players say that experience moved them even more than hanging out with the president at the White House.

''To see their spirit, and the way they reacted to us, was just very special,'' said center Shaun O'Hara. ''That's going to stick with me.''

May 1st, 2008, 03:04 AM
Sometimes you just have to face your personal dilemma head on.

This is the only part of the Giants/Gents celebration after Super Bowl, that I deliberatedly tried to avoid seeing or reading about. I guess I loathe this President so much that it is difficult to separate him from his customary duties, and simply enjoy the event.

But that is the way it goes, and you ignore him as you watch or read of that team's trip to the White House. The joy on the faces of the players and coaches are worth whatever one might view as a distraction on this National stage.

Another year begins, starting in my mind after the recent NFL Draft, and I wonder what will happen this time. Will an underdog triumph again, or will the season reveal an obvious team that will actually fulfill their mission as expected? Could there be a repeat of the Gents, or will the Pats be more determined than ever, after their devastating demise in the 11th hour, and get their Super Bowl trophy?

Whichever team wins this time, will again attend the White House but with a new President in tow. I hope this as yet undetermined person to occupy the highest elective office in the land, will not be one that I will again be distracted negatively by their presence.

July 21st, 2008, 04:39 PM
Giants trade Jeremy Shockey to Saints for pair of draft picks

Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2008/07/21/2008-07-21_giants_trade_jeremy_shockey_to_saints_fo.html)

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out of town.

July 21st, 2008, 10:34 PM
A friend of mine, a displaced Giants fan living in Florida, clued me into Shockey when he was at University of Miami. He prophetically wished that the Giants could get a hold of him.

Sure enough.

I bought into the hype of of his 2001 season at Miami.

He's a talented player, and had a good career with the Giants, but it became apparent to me after a few years as a pro that he was overrated. And sometimes an idiot.

The often used reply when star athletes behave like prima donnas is, "We can lose without you as easily as lose with you."

When that becomes, "We can win without you as easily as lose with you," it's best to shut up and play.