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Garden_of_England
December 21st, 2008, 08:05 PM
Hello New Yorkers, first post on this site so be easy :p

First of all, thank you for http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10190&page=2 I read it back to front and now looking for some advice.

I will be moving to New York in January and want to find a place to live that suits me and have been trawling a ton of sites and my head is ready to burst, so I thought I would ask you guys as you seem to know your stuff.

Relevant info:

1) Ideally would like to live in Manhattan. In a one bedroom place.
2)I will be on a decent salary $145,000ish - Is this good enough to live in Manhattan, and how much should I be looking for rent. With no idea of taxes/living costs I thought $3,500 should be my upper upper limit, not sure if this too high or too low or whether I can afford more or less.
3) Late twenties, not single, but partner still in UK. Not into poncey clubs, or that laddish suited culture. Would love a nice alternative community feel.
4) I will be working on E42nd and Madison, very close to Grand Central St. and would like to walk to work (20min walk/jog max). Really want to stay away from the subway after 11 years on the UK tube system :) (So maybe no more than 5-10mins journey on subway max, 20mins door to door)
5) I would like a quiet neighbourhood but still close enough so I can walk 20mins to get the flavour of 'manhattan' (I imagine this is the villages and further south when non-NYs picture manhattan). For instance I would like to go out and experience the night life, but then turn a corner to my place to find a quiet hide-a-way (as close as you can get) and not have the night life right on your door way.
6) A place with a gym in it - more of a wish list item :p

Apologies for the wall of text.

Sorry, I appreciate that this has probably been asked a million times before but any help is appreciated.

Cheers

ablarc
December 21st, 2008, 08:11 PM
^ Murray Hill.

Garden_of_England
December 21st, 2008, 08:47 PM
Thanks for the tip. I was always under the impression that Murray Hill was full of yuppie grads and had a bit of a "frat" feel to it (which in England conjures images of 20-something yuppy men). Is this something which is still true? I unfortunately work with the suited "lets hit the expensive clubs and go to a lapdancing bar" kind of people and would like to move away from that.

As I am still a rocker / poet at heart and would love to live near a similar alternative scene / community :)

ablarc
December 21st, 2008, 08:51 PM
Hell's Kitchen.

Slightly longer walk to Grand Central. You may get sick of fighting your way through Times Square's crowds.

ablarc
December 21st, 2008, 08:53 PM
Turtle Bay.

ablarc
December 21st, 2008, 08:59 PM
Gramercy Park area, if you can afford it or can get a deal.

Garden_of_England
December 21st, 2008, 09:43 PM
Cheers for the tips Ablarc

May not exist, but is there a place where all the english/brits seem to live and you can find a proper english pub (sports bars make me want to hang myself)

ablarc
December 21st, 2008, 10:04 PM
http://nymag.com/srch?t=restaurant&N=265+338+1174&No=0

You might also enjoy McSorley's in the East Village and the White Horse in the West Village.

ablarc
December 21st, 2008, 10:13 PM
http://nymag.com/nymetro/nightlife/barbuzz/11924/

DKNY617
December 21st, 2008, 10:13 PM
Welcome to New York, need a butler? :p

Garden_of_England
December 21st, 2008, 10:20 PM
Nice choice of bars :)

Sorry for the questions, I hate being clueless about things. Especially after being an expert on London and know immediately where to live/socialise based on personality.

DKNY - only if you do really look like Brad Pitt :p

ablarc
December 21st, 2008, 10:38 PM
How did you find Wired New York?

DKNY617
December 21st, 2008, 10:44 PM
Nice choice of bars :)

Sorry for the questions, I hate being clueless about things. Especially after being an expert on London and know immediately where to live/socialise based on personality.

DKNY - only if you do really look like Brad Pitt :p


:o No I don't... haha.

stache
December 22nd, 2008, 01:26 AM
If you want a 20 minute walk to the Village, consider the side streets of Chelsea, or possibly Madison Square. Just tell your broker you don't want to be close to a noisy bar.

Front_Porch
December 22nd, 2008, 06:42 AM
Hi Garden . . .

The rule of thumb is that you want to be able to show that your income is 40x your monthly rent, so you are looking at spending up to $3625. For that, you can get a one-bedroom that's cute in a townhouse on a side street in Chelsea . . .

Buchbinder and Warren (http://www.buchbinderwarren.com/rentals.php) has one on the fifth floor for $3,495 if you're willing to brave some stairs; there are ones on lower floors too, but they're all through small management companies so the B and W one is the closest thing to a web link I can show you.

You will very much like your neighborhood (its artsy and quiet; Minnie Driver used to live over there) but your commute will be bad because it's a pain to go from east to west.

More alternative-y and a better commute will be the East Side -- Avalon Chrystie Place is a luxury building over there; the building might feel a tiny bit hotel-y but it will be nice, it has a gym and a pool, and it is right near the neighborhoods you want -- good access to the artsy Lower East Side and SoHo shopping. A one bedroom will run you $3625, and they'll pay your broker's fee (typically 15% of one year's rent).

http://www.avaloncommunities.com/avaloncore/nfloor_1br.asp?comm=178

Walk-to-work will be harder, not because those neighborhoods don't exist, but because they aren't removed and artsy. If you live right near where you work it will be noisy; if you live over near the river on the East Side because it's quiet, it will feel a little stuffy to you, I think.

Happy to answer more questions, especially if you can bring over some Stilton, please.

ali r.
{downtown broker}

Garden_of_England
December 22nd, 2008, 07:02 AM
How did you find Wired New York?

I know it is rather rudimentary of me, but it was a google search that brought me to the 2006 poll thread and from there I kept reading the topics.

I found this forum friendly and very very knowledgable. Many sites about NYC are mainly written on hearsay, but everyone here seems to know everything first hand which is perfect. Once I move in hopefully I will be able to contribute my part with my hopefully good experiences :)

Garden_of_England
December 22nd, 2008, 07:05 AM
Thanks Front Porch, you seem to really know your stuff and your picks were just what I was looking for.

And just so there isn't any confusion, you are talking about Stilton the cheese right? Not sure if it means anything else in NY speak :D

Front_Porch
December 22nd, 2008, 11:26 AM
Yep, I meant Stilton the cheese -- I was at a dinner party last night with an English expat, and he made me hungry!

ali r.
{downtown broker}

Ninjahedge
December 23rd, 2008, 08:38 AM
Cheers for the tips Ablarc

May not exist, but is there a place where all the english/brits seem to live and you can find a proper english pub (sports bars make me want to hang myself)

East and West villages have some of the best bars, if you can find them.

Blind Tiger is still my favorite:

www.blindtigeralehouse.com (http://www.blindtigeralehouse.com)

But there are others all around that area. And the brownstone style is MUCH more comfy than trying much of what is in Midtown.....

KenNYC
January 16th, 2009, 04:02 PM
There's quite a few English pubs around, just look for signs that show Premier league football, you're bound to find a bunch of brits/euros there.

Just one thing to add, kinda forget about a gym in the building. In my building, and most of the places I know people living, the in-house gyms are almost as expensive as a regular membership to a NYSC or similar. They're really not worth it.

Gregory Tenenbaum
May 29th, 2009, 11:21 AM
Agree. Live somewhere close to the gym.

And just so you know, fighting in pubs (or elsewhere) is not allowed in NY.