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Gregory Tenenbaum
May 22nd, 2009, 12:49 PM
Ian Tomlinson was a newspaper seller and lifelong Londoner who passed away about a month ago, while walking home from work.

The representative of the IPCC (independent investigator into police corruption) visited the offices of the Guardian with an officer of London police, asking the editor to remove footage of Mr Tomlinson's death and hand it over. It had been captured by a New Yorker in London, and until publication, not aired by the police or government. Until then, the public had been informed that a person had died in the G20 protests, and that there had been missiles thrown by protestors from which the dying man had to be protected by police.

Here's what really happened.

From the Guardian. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/g20-police-assault-ian-tomlinson)

Gregory Tenenbaum
June 3rd, 2009, 04:12 PM
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/4/6/1239007647655/Ian-Tomlinson-lies-on-the-001.jpg

"Real-time media is changing our world

Cheap 'go-anywhere' cameras and phones are challenging the credibility of governments, corporations and the traditional media

It was a chance video (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2009/apr/07/g20-police-assault-video) taken by a New York investment banker that dramatically swung public perceptions of police handling of the G20 protests. Those 41 seconds swiftly exposed apparently incomplete police explanations of how and why Ian Tomlinson died. They alone forced a level of instant accountability from the police about their orders, behaviour and operation."

From the Guardian. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/11/real-time-media-government)

Gregory Tenenbaum
June 8th, 2009, 01:38 PM
Wot
an
amazing
reakshun
to
this
story.

dtolman
June 8th, 2009, 02:38 PM
Why would you expect anyone to get all worked up about the failings of the police in some other country? About the only interesting thing here is that a NYer took the picture...

Gregory Tenenbaum
June 9th, 2009, 07:23 AM
Well, it was a big story in London and has relevance anywhere.

The public were disgusted.

Did you actually read the 10 or 12 stories on the Guardian about it?

dtolman
June 9th, 2009, 09:27 AM
I think I caught one... I mainly followed the story from the NY Times, which ran half a dozen articles following the case.

Gregory Tenenbaum
June 25th, 2009, 05:06 AM
New footage released of London police bashing protesters on the ground with their shields. (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/video/G20-protests-new-footage-of-police-tactics/Video/200905315283580?lpos=video_First_UK_News_Article_T easer_Region_0&lid=VIDEO_15283580_G20_protests%3A_new_footage_of_ police_tactics)

You gotta love that "English Professionalism", something that exists only in the minds of idiot Limes who still believe that nonsense.

Gregory Tenenbaum
June 29th, 2009, 10:12 AM
From the Guardian, footage of an Englishwoman being arrested and beaten for asking a member of the famous London Police for his badge number, which had been obscured by the officer in question.

Warning: Video is Disturbing (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/video/2009/jun/21/fit-watch-kingsnorth-arrests)

They are also having a debate in London about whether they should have badge numbers at all, and many officers do not wish to have their names on their uniforms, something the NYPD have no problem with.

There is obviously a problem over there, seriously there must be some awful unprofessionalism in the police force there.

Sure makes you want to live in London, doesnt it. :rolleyes: