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BrooklynRider
October 26th, 2009, 01:29 AM
I'm bored. So I decided to create a couple of polls in the forums. I pose this question to you...

Who was the greatest of the last 10 U.S. Presidents? Please tell us why.

OmegaNYC
October 26th, 2009, 01:54 AM
Personally, I picked Eisenhower.

He presided over an era in which America, still got the big jobs done, such as the Space Race ( NASA ), enlarge Social Security, and begain the National Highway System. As for forgein policy, he oversaw the cease-fire in Korea, and made nuclear deturrence a policy, that kept the Soviet Union at bay ( Atoms for Peace speech comes to mind ).

His views on Civil Rights were ahead of its time, and made appointments to the Courts ( like Warren ), is a highpoint in Judical Law for this country, ( Brown v. Board, Miranda v. Arizona, Loving v. Virginia, amungst other major ruling rules ) Yeah, Eisenhower is said to detest putting Warren on the court, but we can't change the past.

ablarc
October 26th, 2009, 08:57 AM
Personally, I picked Eisenhower.

He presided over an era in which America, still got the big jobs done, such as the Space Race ( NASA ), enlarge Social Security, and begain the National Highway System. As for forgein policy, he oversaw the cease-fire in Korea, and made nuclear deturrence a policy, that kept the Soviet Union at bay ( Atoms for Peace speech comes to mind ).
He also presided over the most equitable wealth distribution in American history. The income tax was graduated to 91% in the highest category.

That's partly what accounts for the late Fifties being perceived as a golden age.

And he warned of the imminent military-industrial complex, which in time took over.

* * *

I picked Kennedy. He had the power to inspire us to wish for a better world --and actually work towards it.

Fabrizio
October 26th, 2009, 09:10 AM
I choose Silvi... uh... I mean Dwight Eisenhower... but BR, if you're truly bored and want to get a passionate discussion going on this forum, the question should have been: "Who was the greatest of the last 10 U.S. First Ladies...".

ZippyTheChimp
October 26th, 2009, 09:31 AM
He also presided over the most equitable wealth distribution in American history. The income tax was graduated to 91% in the highest category.

That's partly what accounts for the late Fifties being perceived as a golden age.

And he warned of the imminent military-industrial complex, which in time took over.For some reason, the 1950s seem be be perceived as a sleepy time, a between the wars lull in geopolitics; a time when the US exhibited its industrial might and the pursuit of leisure. Eisenhower became associated with it - a golf club swinging custodian.

In reality, the decade was very dangerous. Of the post WWII veterans who rose in prominence, Eisenhower was a good choice for president. His wartime experience as Allied commander served him well as preparation for international diplomacy. Things might have been much different if Douglas McArthur became president.


I picked Kennedy. He had the power to inspire us to wish for a better world --and actually work towards it.My choice also.

I remember a documentary about JFK as senator and president. When historians were asked to access his political life, the common theme was unrealized possibilities, that he was just beginning to understand his role.

hbcat
November 15th, 2009, 05:28 AM
I voted for Richard Nixon. Why, you ask? Just to be cantankerous? Just to be perverse?

Just because.

Because I know no one else is likely to vote for him.

Take away the Vietnam War, the secret war in Cambodia, the dirty tricks, the extra-legal, unconstitutional use of police powers, the financial shenanigans, the paranoia tinged with racial weirdness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_z8DjpOo4Y), and -- well -- all things considered, he was an okay fella.

As I understand it, Nixon was the last president before Clinton to propose legislation for national health care, which the Democratic-controlled Congress of the day then shot down.

My how things have changed. That was probably the last real chance the U.S. had at a single-payer health-care system.

What else. There was that lovely "Checkers Speech." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhQD2UFCIbY) They kept the dog. Awwwhhhh... I wuv doggies-woggies. Without Checkers we might never have heard of Tricky Dick.

There was the 1972 handshake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nixon_Mao_1972-02-29.png) with Mao in Beijing. How often do you get to see two megalomaniacs of that stature together in one place? Oh yeah, I forgot about this (http://www.uncp.edu/home/rwb/mussolini_hitler.jpg).

Presidents. "Some are gone, yet some remain..."

I let myself get excited about Clinton and I was disappointed. I let myself get really excited about Obama, in spite of myself. I am already having my doubts...

My friends tell me I am becoming a curmudgeon.

I tell them I am an optimist. I tell them I take the long view. I tell them I am a Buddhist.

I voted for Nixon.

Metta,
hb

BrooklynRider
November 17th, 2009, 05:28 PM
I think Johnson has the most enduring legacy with the passage of the Civil Rights Act and the creation of Medicare.

I actually voted for Carter, because I believe he has embodied the core principles of the nation more than any other president: human rights.

kakonsteraro
December 13th, 2009, 10:47 PM
I elect bill because he did NOT have a sexual relationship with that woman> .AND he smoked it once and DIDNT inhale! YEAH, Bills the man!

stache
December 14th, 2009, 09:19 AM
I can remember all of these presidents. Nixon also opened up the entire west coast waterfront as public property, but then of course he had to go dweeb on us and wear shorts with shoes and black socks on said beach. :p

ZippyTheChimp
December 14th, 2009, 09:26 AM
I wonder which president comedians would vote for as the best source of material?

Bob
December 14th, 2009, 10:56 PM
Huh huh yeah I guess you're right I shoulda told Hillary about that woman...

ablarc
December 15th, 2009, 07:34 AM
Poll was closed too soon; only 14 voted.

stache
December 16th, 2009, 10:10 AM
They forgot the added element of Maggie Thatcher licking his shoes.

lofter1
December 16th, 2009, 10:11 AM
Methinks Ronnie wasn't quite that trim while serving as POTUS.

Here he is, with Nancy & friend, in 1984:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/mj_reagan.jpg

With another set of friends in 1982:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Marcos_visit_Reagan_1982.jpg

stache
December 16th, 2009, 10:16 AM
He's in Spanx. ;)

lofter1
December 16th, 2009, 10:22 AM
Late in Reagan's term (1987):

http://1observatorycircle.com/floor0/library-1987.jpg

Fabrizio
December 16th, 2009, 11:11 AM
I'm working and am a bit disracted. I caught the title of the thread out of the corner of my eye: "Who was the greatest ...."

I don't know why, but I assumed it was for the greatest singer of all time.

If any one is interested, I was going to respond "Sinatra".

ZippyTheChimp
December 16th, 2009, 12:17 PM
Ablarc, it happened again.

Fabrizio
December 16th, 2009, 12:57 PM
Codex: In your US-President-Statues-in-London post, you forgot to include Ronald Reagan at Madame Tussauds:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/ronaldo/madame_tussauds_nancy_ronald_reagan.jpg

ablarc
December 16th, 2009, 01:07 PM
Ablarc, it happened again.
Wired London?

Or London Wired?

scumonkey
December 16th, 2009, 02:21 PM
have to say...
http://danshas.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/margaret-thatcher.jpg

ooops... wrong forum (my bad- but who can tell
these days?!):eek:

Codex
December 16th, 2009, 02:25 PM
That's okay they are easily removed, no skin off my nose as they say.

lofter1
December 16th, 2009, 05:32 PM
Codex: In your US-President-Statues-in-London post, you forgot to include Ronald Reagan at Madame Tussauds:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/ronaldo/madame_tussauds_nancy_ronald_reagan.jpg

If you hadn't told me who that wax guy was I would've guessed Andy Griffith, who once nearly became a political figure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Face_in_the_Crowd_(film)) himself -- albeit fictional.

http://images.art.com/images/products/large/10039000/10039280.jpg

That movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km7_XGkolRM) foresaw the marketeers' takeover of the process, and Reagan's rise from pitchman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghUy5WhjIHk) to politico (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pbp0hur9RU&feature=PlayList&p=59A64B6E88AE9D89&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=31).

I grew up in California under Reagan's rule (http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/11/20/41813/293?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mydd+%28MyDD%29). He was never any fun, and oftentimes just downright dim (http://www.snopes.com/quotes/reagan/redwoods.asp): Four Snakes in 1972 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io41ScoJubo) (Nixon plays Reagan at about min. 3:30).

Reagan was a solid Democrat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJDhS4oUm0M&NR=1&feature=fvwp) before getting involved in the Hollywood Red Scare / subsequent Blacklist (http://wps.prenhall.com/wps/media/objects/108/110880/ch26_a5_d1.pdf) and then bought up by Big Business (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrWC0234d_E)

Ninjahedge
December 17th, 2009, 10:58 AM
You mean until he got old and senile?