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Daquan13
October 28th, 2009, 06:20 AM
http://www.foxnews.com (U.S. section)

The two pilots who were involved in the mishap with their Delta/Northwest flight have had their licenses to fly revoked by the FAA.

Flight 188 last week which was operated by an Airbus A-320 narrowbody, was supposed to land in Minniapolis, but instead, it had stayed in the air too long and missed the city with the craft ending up somewhere over Euclaire, Wisconsin. It was also finally learned that the 1 hour that was suppsed to have been missed, was actually 90 minutes!

Allegedly during that time, no trasmission was received by the ATC's or Ground Control. The pilots seem to have lost all concentration on what the plane was doing. The two claim that they were using the laptop pc to check Delta's flight schedule. They knew full well ahead of time that the use of personal electronic equipment in the cockpit is against company policy rules and regulations.

The jetliner then had to make a U-turn, go back and desend into Minniapolis. Earlier reports had said that the pilots were arguing, then it said that they were asleep at the controls, possibly having suffered from sleep apnea. The FAA is responding to this as a blatent disreguard for the welfare and safety of the passengers and crew, as well as the safe operation of the aircraft that they were flying.

One of the flight attendants had called up to the cockpit to make the pilots aware of their mistake. The FAA took away their licenses and Delta/Northwaest says that they will also more than likely will ultimately lose their jobs.

This mishap comes on the heels of what has been going on with regular car drivers on the ground and those operating buses, trains, special needs vans and trolleys while using their cell phones. Transportation agencies - mainly the MBTA in Boston, in light of a subway mishap in May, have stepped up their policies against the use of cell phones while on the Job.

The NTSB says also, that sleep apnea might have played a role in the mishap, just as it did in late May, '08 when an MBTA driver is said to have fallen asleep behind the controls of a trolley in Newton that she was operating before it slammed into the rear of another trolley on the same track that had briefly stopped and began to slowly move before it was hit from behind. The driver Terese Edmonds, 24, was killed in the tragic crash.

195Broadway
October 29th, 2009, 01:04 PM
They were probably looking at some good porn. Could anyone really fault them for THAT?

NYatKNIGHT
October 29th, 2009, 01:47 PM
Does anyone really believe they missed 90 minutes and had no contact with ground control because they were on laptops? They were asleep, and they aren't the first to do that.

Ninjahedge
October 29th, 2009, 04:33 PM
Maybe it was the pr0n.

They can at least say their hands were always on the control stick!

Daquan13
October 30th, 2009, 03:51 AM
Does anyone really believe they missed 90 minutes and had no contact with ground control because they were on laptops? They were asleep, and they aren't the first to do that.



Probably no one is going to confirm that, but something when on there. :(

OmegaNYC
October 30th, 2009, 09:22 AM
They were probably looking at some good porn. Could anyone really fault them for THAT?


Nah, they were on WNY! :p

Daquan13
October 30th, 2009, 09:59 AM
They were probably looking at some good porn. Could anyone really fault them for THAT?



What kind of drugs are you on?

ZippyTheChimp
October 30th, 2009, 10:06 AM
Does anyone really believe they missed 90 minutes and had no contact with ground control because they were on laptops? They were asleep, and they aren't the first to do that.That's what I think.

As bad as it is for public relations to admit that the pilot and co-pilot were preoccupied, it's a lot worse to say they were asleep.

Reminds me of an old joke:
I want to die like my grandfather, peacefully in my sleep. Not screaming in panic like his passengers on the bus.

Daquan13
October 30th, 2009, 10:28 AM
Well, whatever the supposed reason that they had for not paying attention to things in the cockpit, it is absolutely no excuse because all pilots are trained not to miss a thing.

Be it sleeping, arguing, using a laptop or anything else, it's just not acceptable. They brought it upon themselves, and whatever the outcome is, and it looks very bleak, they got no one else to blame but themselves.

What an embarrassment it is for them to have to go home and tell their wives & children the reason why they are not allowed to fly a plane any more, or even that they no longer have a Job! :p

195Broadway
October 30th, 2009, 01:54 PM
What kind of drugs are you on?
Pm me for some recommendations.

OmegaNYC
October 30th, 2009, 04:17 PM
Well, whatever the supposed reason that they had for not paying attention to things in the cockpit, it is absolutely no excuse because all pilots are trained not to miss a thing.

Be it sleeping, arguing, using a laptop or anything else, it's just not acceptable. They brought it upon themselves, and whatever the outcome is, and it looks very bleak, they got no one else to blame but themselves.

What an embarrassment it is for them to have to go home and tell their wives & children the reason why they are not allowed to fly a plane any more, or even that they no longer have a Job! :p


You have to also realize the amount of hours pilots fly. I heard it isn't uncommon, to have pilots fly 16 hours in a day! That is just way too much.

Daquan13
November 1st, 2009, 05:28 PM
If they thought that they were being overworked, then they should have spoken to their superiors. Rather than put a planeload of peoples' lives in danger.

NYatKNIGHT
November 2nd, 2009, 10:18 AM
Zippy, I cannot wait to use that line.

ZippyTheChimp
November 2nd, 2009, 10:38 AM
LOL.

It's easy to work into a conversation.

Bob
November 7th, 2009, 08:21 PM
If one of my controllers was found sleeping on duty, I would immediately initiate action to remove him/her from the federal service.

Daquan13
November 11th, 2009, 01:04 PM
Info has surfaced that a pilot was pulled from a United Airlines flight before the plane ever left London Heathrow, headed for Chicago.

He's been suspended prnding the outcome of the investigation. The 144 passengers were also pulled off the plane and put on other flights back to the States.

Yet another reason not to fly! :(