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OmegaNYC
November 3rd, 2009, 10:26 PM
Republican Christie captures NJ governor's race

TRENTON, N.J. -- Republican Chris Christie has defeated Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine in New Jersey.

With 71 percent of precincts reporting Tuesday night, Christie had 50 percent of the vote to Corzine's 44 percent.
Christie, a 47-year-old former federal prosecutor, became the first member of his party in a dozen years to win a statewide contest in heavily Democratic New Jersey.

The Republican victory deals a blow to President Barack Obama as he readies for next year's midterm elections. Obama campaigned heavily for Corzine.

Christie accepted public financing in the race against the wealthy incumbent and was outspent by more than $12 million.

He ran on a platform of smaller government and criticized Corzine for what he called poor economic stewardship. State unemployment was nearly 10 percent in October and property taxes are the nation's highest.

lofter1
November 3rd, 2009, 10:36 PM
Ok, he may have won the election, but this is carrying it a bit too far ...


Christ Christie elected Gov. of New Jersey.

OmegaNYC
November 3rd, 2009, 10:37 PM
^^^^ Ha! Sorry about that! :cool:

Ninjahedge
November 4th, 2009, 10:47 AM
Meh.

Not that Corzine was doing great, but people get too reactive during bad times.

NJ state income taxes are pretty low compared to the fed, and the sales tax is lower than NY.... So when Christie says "lower taxes", how is he going to pull that out?

I have seen SO MANY politicians use that as their war-cry, and almost none of them have actually done it (except to their own political supporters, ala Bush).

If the biggest tax people have to pay is Property, and THAT comes primarily from the county, how will he be able to do anything about that? With a broad-stroke general cut to education spending with no real line item prohibiting things like Pensions for Executive Staff over XXX$? How about Cops? Cut the cops pay but allow their Supers to getthe same pay they have always had... DURING A RECESSION?


Oh, and that is one thnig that gets me about ALL union disputes. On both sides. The blind fighting. During a deficit, and a recession, people complaining about pay reduction when the private sector has had just that. On top of that, the executive levels of city administration, in all departments, getting much higher pay than their subordinate bretheren. When a cut comes through, the guys that pay are rarely at the top.

But back to topic. How is he going to reduce taxes when the taxes he can reduce are not the big guns? Is he going to magically clean up all of NJ? Wave a wand and make corruption and kickbacks dissappear?

None of his ads were specific. Although I hate negative ads, I also do not like ads showing him having a family dinner and hugging his kids.

Great, you are not an abusive Dad, how does that work for us in Government again?

I hope one of two things. That miracle of miracles he is able to get the kinks out and get the money that comes in to where it needs to go, or that he fails miserably and we have a doubly bitter voting public willing to go Independent.

OmegaNYC
November 4th, 2009, 12:08 PM
^^^ So basically, we're screwed...

I can't wait till I leave!

Ninjahedge
November 4th, 2009, 12:14 PM
I hear Italy is nice this time of year.....


*whistles innocently*

195Broadway
November 4th, 2009, 04:45 PM
^^^

I can't wait till I leave!

But why????

OmegaNYC
November 4th, 2009, 07:29 PM
Cuz.... Christie might suck. :mad:

Bob
November 4th, 2009, 07:50 PM
I have absolutely no faith at all that this guy is going to one bit different than Corzine. So he has a different party label... big deal. I see almost no differences between the two major parties. Nothing will change. Same goes for the GOP win in Virginia. Things there will be the same. Second verse, same as the first!

195Broadway
November 4th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Cuz.... Christie might suck. :mad:


IYO, is NJ a great place that is now going to suck, or is it a sucky place that will now suck even more? :confused:

scumonkey
November 4th, 2009, 09:30 PM
Cuz.... Christie might suck.
you mean like McGreevey ;):D

BrooklynRider
November 4th, 2009, 09:39 PM
Corzine would have garnered a few more votes had he taken Christie's challenge and called him "Fat".

There's something about fat politicians that turns me off. I don't have issues with other folks being overweight (though I wish them a healthy life). I just find that fat lumbering politicians are emblematic of "the system". Christie is too big to fail. Let's see what happens.

Bob
November 5th, 2009, 07:37 PM
Part II of my earlier rant:


...and another thing. Lots of people in Arizona were thrilled when photo-radar maniac, Governor Janet Napolitano, left office and we ended up with republican Jan Brewer. Many thought taxes would go down and photo radar would be torn down. The reality? Photo radar is still up and running. Jan Brewer has suggested a "temporary tax" to solve the state's budget problems. Brewer is Napolitano with a shorter skirt. Other than that, NO DIFF between these two Republicrats. Sickens me.

195Broadway
November 5th, 2009, 08:18 PM
.....yeah, probably as "temporary" as the tolls on the Garden State Parkway. :rolleyes:

Bob
November 5th, 2009, 09:47 PM
I don't think I'm the only one fed up with both political parties. I'm not talking about just being fed up. I'm talking about people who are downright ANGRY at inefficient, wasteful, and tyrannical government. We are not there yet, but at some point people may get fed up enough to do something about it.

lofter1
November 5th, 2009, 11:56 PM
What would they "do" :confused:

Despite what Christie promised he can't lower taxes in NJ. That's what the legislature does. And I believe that the recent election didn't cover any of that crew, so those players remain the same.

OmegaNYC
November 6th, 2009, 01:04 AM
^^^ Good point, as always.

I try to tell people that; they wouldn't listen. Funny thing is, one of the reason why property taxes in New Jersey is so high, is the fact you have these 8 block X 6 block, towns that have their own police and fire departments, school districts, DPW, Parks department, etc. Untill these towns share services ( especially in Bergen County ), taxes are going to continue to go through the roof. Why won't these people get it?

195Broadway
November 6th, 2009, 07:22 PM
IMO, it would be a big mistake to eliminate those individual police departments. Mega departments dehumanize the citizen - police relationship.

eddhead
July 28th, 2011, 04:31 PM
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=D83C32D0-2791-430D-9FB7-47A237945F9D (http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=D83C32D0-2791-430D-9FB7-47A237945F9D)


Christie, 48, has struggled with his weight over the years

ya think?

N.J. Gov Christie hospitalized
By: Reid J. Epstein
July 28, 2011 12:11 PM EDT



New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/chrischristie) was hospitalized on Thursday and is having tests after having trouble breathing, his office said.

“Governor Christie was having difficulty breathing this morning and out of an abundance of caution he went to Somerset Medical Center to be checked out,” said a statement from Christie’s office.

“In line with someone dealing with asthma, he is being given routine tests as a precautionary measure. The Governor is extremely grateful for the quality of care he is receiving this morning and has nothing but praise for the world-class doctors, nurses and staff.”

A spokesman added shortly after that the governor is “fine and in charge.” The Star-Ledger reported (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/07/gov_chris_christie_to_be_relea.html?utm_source=twi tterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) that Christie is due to be released this afternoon.

Christie, 48, has struggled with his weight over the years and has periodically made efforts to try to slim down.

At town hall events, Christie often tells audiences that he has asthma, the Newark Star Ledger noted, adding that when the governor explains the difference between the federal government’s health care plans and New Jersey’s, he describes going to his local pharmacist to refill his inhaler prescription.

Christie had been scheduled to attend a bill-signing ceremony at 10:30 a.m. in Hillsborough, but the event was canceled, the paper said. He is also expected to take questions at 7 p.m. tonight on “Ask the Governor,” a monthly call-in radio show on New Jersey 101.5 FM, but there was no indication whether he would participate.

Christie has repeatedly ruled out a bid for president in 2012, despite efforts by some Republicans to push him into the race.

Ninjahedge
July 28th, 2011, 10:31 PM
Asthma my arse.

As for NJ health care plans, what the hell is he talking about?

eddhead
July 29th, 2011, 09:47 AM
he's a douche.

Ninjahedge
July 29th, 2011, 10:19 AM
Corpulent Christie.

(Although, in all fairness, it is not his size that makes him horrible....)

mariab
July 29th, 2011, 01:58 PM
Yeah but I like the property tax caps, the clean-up at the corrupt Passaic Valley Sewerage Commission, & (but not limited to) NOT getting my favorite state park closed during July 4th week so that I'm forced to use some loathesome municipal beach in Seaside because the state can't get it together. I'm also a proponent of merit-based teachers' tenure. Just a few things.

Ninjahedge
August 1st, 2011, 11:51 AM
Merit Teachers is a tough one, as that depends a LOT on the supervisors and what teachers are given what students.


It always SOUNDS good until you become aware of the political BS that goes on inside our schools... :(

eddhead
August 1st, 2011, 11:59 AM
^^ I agree with your comments on merit teachers. It is too easy to assess a teacher's contribution on the basis of how well her/his class does on standardized tests. Such assessments fail to take envionrmental factors into account. It makes me uneasy.

Bob
August 1st, 2011, 04:31 PM
I'd like to see Governor Christie help get a few things changed. Here's my wish list:

1. Eliminate the double fines in 65 MPH zones.
2. Raise the NJTP speed limit to 70 MPH south of the present construction zone.
3. Harmonize New Jersey law with 48 other states and allow motorists to pump their own gas.

That's about it. Nothing too controversial; just a few things to make life easier for everybody.

Ninjahedge
August 2nd, 2011, 01:23 PM
1. Why.
2. Why.
3. BS. Our gas would cost the same and we would have to do it ourselves.

eddhead
August 2nd, 2011, 02:14 PM
1. There is no justification for double fines in the 65 MPH zones. Many municipalites will not honor the double fine rule
2. It is never going to happen, but let's face it. Avg speed in that area is between 75-79. You are like a pylon, almost a hazard at 65
3. That is probably not true. In NY, gas station show two prices one for attandant assisted and one for self help. I would imagine the same thing would happen in NJ. It certainly would speed up service along the turnpike where there is often a big logjam an the pump.

Ninjahedge
August 3rd, 2011, 09:14 AM
Edd, I agree on the 65 rule, but saying there is no reason for it will not really get rid of it..... I will also argue the same thing, but I know I will never win.

As for 2... for someone who usually keeps within 15mph of the limit himself (you did not hear that from me) I also agree. The only problem coming, you raise it to 70, people will be going 90.

And for the third, it is true. Trust me. NJ has THE CHEAPEST gas in almost all the US. As for the TP, simply get off at an exit and drive more than a mile and you will get gas that is 10-30 cents cheaper per gallon and service that gets you out in 10 minutes. Hell, the one place I go to right on 17 was $3.50 a gallon when Valero and others were $3.70 (and it never took me more than 10 minutes to get in and out).

Gas stations will not drop their price if the law is passed, they will just give the "option" and charge more for the service. Oh, they will not do it right away, they will do it the same way that other products do (in the case of Orange Juice, by offering BIG sales on the juice, without telling you that they went from 64 to 59oz, or label them as "Easy Pour" like Tree Ripe did).

They will simply lower the price for a few weeks until we forget what they were, then creep back up.

After all, take a look at the price of oil. How is it that gas prices are higher now than they were when oil was the same price? ESPECIALLY when the oil industry blamed oil prices for the increase in gas prices?


Record profits do not lie. :p :(