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Daquan13
January 13th, 2010, 05:25 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_o%27brian



The Tonight Show host Conan O'Brian is saying no to NBC's plans to delay the startup of the popular late-night talk show to 12:05.

The network wants to move Jay Leno's prime-time 30-minute show to 11:35 and push back O'Brian's time slot to start 30 minutes later.

NBC says that the change would take place on February 12 at the start of the Winter Olympics games. O'Brian says that the move would forever alter the integrity of the Tonight Show, which for many, many, many years, has always started at 11:30 or 11:35.

Ninjahedge
January 13th, 2010, 08:20 AM
NBC has crap on anyway.

Move Leno to 11:00 and bump the "news" to 10:30.

As long as Leno is out of the mainstream prime-time, his ratings will go back up. And a 30 minute slot is easier to fill than an hour.

ZippyTheChimp
January 13th, 2010, 08:44 AM
Heavy news

Daquan13
January 13th, 2010, 10:57 AM
Honestly, I don't think it's fair for Leno to hog that time slot, especially after he did the Tonight Show for so many years since the early '90s!

NBC now stands to LOSE a gifted talented star if they start switching that around. What a shame!! :(

dtolman
January 13th, 2010, 11:08 AM
Honestly, I don't think it's fair for Leno to hog that time slot, especially after he did the Tonight Show for so many years since the early '90s!

NBC now stands to LOSE a gifted talented star if they start switching that around. What a shame!! :(

If he's so gifted then why does he get beaten in every time slot? Craig Ferguson used to beat him. Letterman beats him now. He's the comic everyone says they like - but don't watch. Maybe we like the idea of him better than the reality.

Sad as it is, ratings wise, NBC would have been better off extending Jay Leno for another 5 years, and telling Conan to hit the pavement.

lofter1
January 13th, 2010, 11:33 AM
Jay didn't want to stay at the Tonight Show, not after NBC offered him the "better" deal ($$$). He wouldn't have moved to 10PM unless that's what he thought would work best for him.

Bone heads.

They've got a bunch of guys older than me :eek: "entertaining" the rest of the country before bedtime.

Network TV :( . So 20th century.

Give me Jon Stewart and Charlie Rose any day (night).

Daquan13
January 13th, 2010, 12:32 PM
If he's so gifted then why does he get beaten in every time slot? Craig Ferguson used to beat him. Letterman beats him now. He's the comic everyone says they like - but don't watch. Maybe we like the idea of him better than the reality.

Sad as it is, ratings wise, NBC would have been better off extending Jay Leno for another 5 years, and telling Conan to hit the pavement.



The deal was that Conan would take over the 11:35 time slot with the Tinight Show. He hasn't even been there a year yet, and NBC already wants to bump him to start 1/2 an hour later! Don't you think that is rather unfair?

Ninjahedge
January 13th, 2010, 01:00 PM
The main problem I have had with Late Night in general is that it just stopped being funny.

Being on EVERY NIGHT, and for AN HOUR, it gets hard to come up with monologues and sketches for every episode. Then you have the mind numbing interviews that are nothing more than promotions for this book, that movie, or the other TV show.

Cut them down to 30 minutes and you have something like the Daily Show that hits, scores, and runs away before you stop laughing.

NBC should have learned from SNL that you can take the funniest people on the planet and make them as entertaining as the DMV when you force 30 seconds of funny into a 5 minute sketch. You just can't take that much air to fill up an hour of late night 5 nights a week.

dtolman
January 13th, 2010, 01:06 PM
The deal was that Conan would take over the 11:35 time slot with the Tinight Show. He hasn't even been there a year yet, and NBC already wants to bump him to start 1/2 an hour later! Don't you think that is rather unfair?

Forget fair - its stupid. They should have picked one or the other. Apparently they are picking Jay now.

Daquan13
January 13th, 2010, 05:07 PM
It was on the news just now, that NBC did not specify or guarrantee that O'Brian would stay in the 11:35pm spot.

Also, now, they would have to renegociate with Leno to see if HE wants to move his show to 11:35pm.

What, Leno gets to choose which spot he wants, but not O)'Brian? That isn't fair either! :confused:

lofter1
January 13th, 2010, 06:39 PM
Fair? Show Business?? Television???

come on.

lofter1
January 13th, 2010, 08:03 PM
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Daquan13
January 14th, 2010, 12:01 AM
Fair? Show Business?? Television???

come on.



Now Jay Leno is also fighting back, saying that both himself AND Conan are being treated very unfairly, so now, the network could stand to lose BOTH of them! :(

kz1000ps
January 14th, 2010, 01:45 AM
Give me Jon Stewart and Charlie Rose any day (night).

Amen.

Jasonik
January 19th, 2010, 05:20 PM
NBC vs. Conan vs. Jay fiasco as animated for Japanese TV: Showdown at NBC [video 1:54] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ9m1an-pQ8)

Daquan13
January 20th, 2010, 06:13 AM
Fair? Show Business?? Television???

come on.



Well, Leno DID leave the show of his own choosing.

He was supposed to have retired from TV talk shows, but found himself not being able to just walk away. The money and spotlight, I would imagine. :(

Daquan13
January 20th, 2010, 12:30 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_o%27brian



The Tonight Show host Conan O'Brian is saying no to NBC's plans to delay the startup of the popular late-night talk show to 12:05.

The network wants to move Jay Leno's prime-time 30-minute show to 11:35 and push back O'Brian's time slot to start 30 minutes later.

NBC says that the change would take place on February 12 at the start of the Winter Olympics games. O'Brian says that the move would forever alter the integrity of the Tonight Show, which for many, many, many years, has always started at 11:30 or 11:35.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Leno



Friday night will be Conan's last appearance on the Tonight Show. His guests will be Will Ferrell & Tom Hanks.

Leno will return after the Winter Olympics.

I think that is bullcrap that they're doing this because Leno had officially retired from doing the show!!

Look how much money it is costing them to let Conan walk and to pay the ones who worked with him on the show, when all they had to do was try to work something out with him and save all that money! I think they just screwed themselves out of a lot of money. :mad:

dtolman
January 21st, 2010, 09:43 AM
They're paying Conan 32 millions dollars to start a new show on Fox next Fall. Essentially.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/business/media/22conan.html?hp

Personally, I think they're all pale imitations of Carson. Hell - it pains me to mention them in the same sentence. Ferguson is the only one who measures up.

Daquan13
January 21st, 2010, 12:01 PM
But Carson, as you know, is no longer with us.

They should have asked the one who is on after Conan. Give HIM a shot at the spotlight.

I just feel that since Leno deicided to leave the show in the first place, then why on earth are they babying him to come back? He left on his own, they didn't force him out, so he should not have been so quickly offered the slot back.

Oh, they're gonna cater to him and put HIM on at 11:35, but they just WOULDN'T give it to Conan?! Tell me where that is fair.

Ninjahedge
January 21st, 2010, 12:29 PM
*cough*Favre*cough*

lofter1
January 21st, 2010, 12:49 PM
... since Leno deicided to leave the show in the first place, then why on earth are they babying him to come back? He left on his own, they didn't force him out ...


Leno didn't leave NBC, his bosses moved his time slot. When the ones who write the checks ask an employee (no matter how big) to do that then the employee often goes along (especially when enticed with more $$ / clout). That plan didn't really play out so well.

TV is about viewers & advertising dollars. Clearly NBC feels that Leno will draw more viewers in the 11:30 time slot than Conan has.

Fairness has nothing to do with it. They aren't violating any contracts. They have renegotiated them to put in place what the smart guys up top think will work best for the company.

But Leno is tired -- and for me unwatchable (couldn't really watch Conan, either).

The once glittering NBC is now in the toilet. We'll have to wait and see what bubbles up in the future.

Jasonik
January 21st, 2010, 02:15 PM
Lofter, did you see Jeff Zucker on Charlie Rose [1/18/10] (http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/10824) defending/justifying/owning up to his decisions?

dtolman
January 21st, 2010, 02:50 PM
The once glittering NBC is now in the toilet. We'll have to wait and see what bubbles up in the future.

Booting Leno out of 10 PM was at least a first step. Broadcast networks live or die with tentpole shows - eliminating 5 slots a week got rid of 5 potential ERs a week. Even if 9 out of 10 sucked, one NCIS/ER/Lost/American Idol/whatever will pull all your other shows up - even in the age of TIVO.

CBS seems to be the network that gets it (for now). They let marginal shows grow audiences (almost all the Monday comedies - ratings gold - started off with mediocre ratings at one point), instead of giving them the insta-hook like NBC does (or did). They have multiple original properties spread out across all their nights (no weekday eggs all in one basket FOX/American Idol style). They franchise, but seem to be doing it smartly (well - CSI NY seemed like pushing it - but the ratings are decent)

Not only that... but they show repeats of their shows (which builds an audience for a show - if you don't see it, you forget about it). The other networks obsession with putting marginal unscripted shows instead of building up franchises is just bizarre.

Daquan13
January 21st, 2010, 05:38 PM
Leno didn't leave NBC, his bosses moved his time slot. When the ones who write the checks ask an employee (no matter how big) to do that then the employee often goes along (especially when enticed with more $$ / clout). That plan didn't really play out so well.

TV is about viewers & advertising dollars. Clearly NBC feels that Leno will draw more viewers in the 11:30 time slot than Conan has.

Fairness has nothing to do with it. They aren't violating any contracts. They have renegotiated them to put in place what the smart guys up top think will work best for the company.

But Leno is tired -- and for me unwatchable (couldn't really watch Conan, either).

The once glittering NBC is now in the toilet. We'll have to wait and see what bubbles up in the future.



Never said that he left NBC, but he WAS supposed to have retired from the Tonight Show. Seems he can't make up his mind what he'd like to do.

lofter1
January 22nd, 2010, 01:40 AM
One more time: Leno does what his bosses ask him to do.

In show business there's no such thing as retirement if someone offers a stage.

lofter1
January 22nd, 2010, 01:41 AM
Lofter, did you see Jeff Zucker on Charlie Rose [1/18/10] (http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/10824) defending/justifying/owning up to his decisions?

Yep. He's a tool.

Ninjahedge
January 22nd, 2010, 10:08 AM
Conan to get a huge payoff. Something like 30Mil, and agrees not to take anything until something like September.

NBC has no brains.

Daquan13
January 22nd, 2010, 12:58 PM
I didn't thinks they did either.

Lindsey
January 27th, 2010, 11:14 PM
The main problem I have had with Late Night in general is that it just stopped being funny.

Being on EVERY NIGHT, and for AN HOUR, it gets hard to come up with monologues and sketches for every episode.


I agree. And that's why I don't watch *any* of those shows more than a few nights a week.. But I don't discriminate against Conan, I skip all shows (well, Conan, Craig and Jimmy Fallon, anyway) equally. I can't remember the last time I've watched Leno or Letterman, but it doesn't look like they need my ratings anyway.


Well, Leno DID leave the show of his own choosing.

He was supposed to have retired from TV talk shows, but found himself not being able to just walk away. The money and spotlight, I would imagine. :(

That's the part I don't understand. Why does Jay Leno need his slot back so badly if he made the decision to leave in the first place? It's not fair to give that show to another host, one who's been working for the spot since 1993, and then take it back in a few months.

Edit: And just in from Wikipedia!


On January 10, NBC Universal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC_Universal) Television Entertainment Chairman Jeff Gaspin confirmed that The Jay Leno Show will indeed end at the start of the Winter Olympics on February 12, 2010, and be moved to 11:35 pm following the Olympics coverage.[32] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_o%27brian#cite_note-31) Sources familiar with the situation told the New York Post (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Post) that O'Brien was unhappy with NBC's plan.[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_o%27brian#cite_note-32) It should be noted that Jay Leno is a huge, unfunny faggot, and that Conan O'Brien is probably just going to steal Tosh anyway.

Ah, Wikipedia.. :D

Jasonik
February 4th, 2010, 12:59 PM
Conan is spectacularly rendered (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/blog.php?b=308) in all his orange cheesy glory!

Ninjahedge
February 4th, 2010, 01:07 PM
Conan is spectacularly rendered (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/blog.php?b=308) in all his orange cheesy glory!


Um....



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195Broadway
February 4th, 2010, 02:55 PM
Works here. Impressive.

scumonkey
February 4th, 2010, 03:10 PM
here too;) very cheezy

Daquan13
April 13th, 2010, 12:29 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Eubanks


Another regular is leaving the Tonight Show.

Info has just sufaced that bandleader, Kevin Eubanks plans to leave the show on May 28.

Ninjahedge
April 13th, 2010, 01:05 PM
Back to Conan... seems like he has a Gig w/TBS!

Rumored 8 figures and a hell of a lot of lattitude..... (Check IMDB for the scoop...)

Daquan13
April 14th, 2010, 03:56 AM
He DOES have a show with TBS.

Ninjahedge
April 14th, 2010, 08:16 AM
That is what I said.

What I said was rumor was the pay Daq.... :rolleyes:

Daquan13
April 15th, 2010, 05:30 AM
It WAS announced on the news that he has a show in the works with TBS, unless someone put out a false rumor, like you said.