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October 20th, 2011, 02:46 PM
(Reuters) - Muammar Gaddafi was killed by Libyans he once scorned as "rats," succumbing to wounds, some seemingly inflicted after his capture by fighters who overran his last redoubt on Thursday in his hometown of Sirte.
Two months after Western-backed rebels ended 42 years of eccentric, often bloody, one-man rule by capturing the capital Tripoli, his death and the fall of the final bastion ended a nervous hiatus for the new interim government, which is now set to declare formal "liberation" with a timetable for elections.

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October 20th, 2011, 02:54 PM
However, he was stopped by a French air strike and captured, possibly some hours later, after gun battles with NTC fighters who found him hiding in a drainage culvert.
So another despot meets his fate while hiding in a hole (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4335&page=1&highlight=hiding+hole).

October 20th, 2011, 03:22 PM
Amazing these "men" can't just come out with their hands up...

(Or with both arms clutching AK47's as they do one final coke-fueled frenzy ala Scarface)

October 20th, 2011, 03:42 PM
Tyrants (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVIkck02qao&feature=player_embedded&skipcontrinter=1):

Beware (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAPDnWCI-WY)!

October 20th, 2011, 04:09 PM
A Tale Of Two Presidents (http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/10/a-tale-of-two-presidents.html)

October 20, 2011

A reader writes:

Bush and Saddam - One Trillion dollars and thousands of US lives.

Obama and Qaddafi - One Billion dollars and zero US lives.

Meep Meep indeed.

And this time, the Arab world loves us as well.

To rid the world of Osama bin Laden, Anwar al-Awlaki and Moammar Qaddafi within six months:

If Obama were a Republican, he'd be on Mount Rushmore by now.

October 20th, 2011, 04:36 PM
Tyrants (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVIkck02qao&feature=player_embedded&skipcontrinter=1):

Beware (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAPDnWCI-WY)!

I'm glad he's dead too, but that was damn brutal to watch. Any ideas who will take his place permanently, or will Jibril be pretty much it?

October 20th, 2011, 05:10 PM
To rid the world of Osama bin Laden, Anwar al-Awlaki and Moammar Qaddafi within six months...

The guys who write Obama's campaign advertisements are going to love this...

October 21st, 2011, 01:03 PM
Direct from the Drainage Pipe ...

Viewer Warning!!!


[I wonder how they'll spell his name on the memorials?]


Too bad about that NBA thing :cool:

October 21st, 2011, 02:48 PM
I don't know, but he may need a "Special Edition" from Time Magazine....

I wonder if we will see his face on the top of cabs.....

October 21st, 2011, 10:24 PM
Autocrats UNITE!

Gaddafi's death breached the law, says Russia

The INDEPENDENT (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/gaddafis-death-breached-the-law-says-russia-2374250.html)

[those oil contracts must have them really worried]

October 21st, 2011, 10:32 PM
One-Upping CNN ...


Not 1/10 as scary as what really went down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCIbirOc3Nc).

October 22nd, 2011, 01:31 AM
A rotten person by all measures, but I don't particular enjoy watching a distraught old man beat minutes before he is shot in the head.

Then again, we all reap what we sow.

October 22nd, 2011, 02:06 AM
His end is what has happened to this sort throughout the history of mankind.

Reaped as was his due.

Call me a cold hearted bastard, but it's wasted energy to get exercised over this.

Besides, tracing the one who dealt the deadly blow / shot / whatever will be impossible; I'd be willing to bet there are 100 + Libyans who are proudly staking claim as the one who did the act.

October 22nd, 2011, 08:38 AM
He's dead; it's good.

October 22nd, 2011, 10:06 AM
More proof that men associate hair with virility.

Gadhafi was looks-conscious until the end
By Phoebe Connelly | The Envoy (http://wirednewyork.com/blogs/envoy/) – 22 hrs ago

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/u31Ck9yQugRmAEluHeZRJg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTE5MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/theenvoy/gadhafi.png (AP Images)

Thursday brought to an abrupt end (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/gadhafi-alleged-capture-occurred-during-siege-sirte-154837678.html) the months-long hunt for Libyan strongman Moammar Gadhafi. But as authorities seek to piece together a timeline of his final moments, some striking reminders of his extravagant lifestyle have emerged. The Washington Post reports (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=14lq76hj9/EXP=1320501635/**http%3A//www.washingtonpost.com/world/gaddafis-home-town-overrun-conflicting-reports-on-his-fate/2011/10/20/gIQAMwTB0L_story_1.html) Friday that when investigators performed DNA testing on Gadhafi's body, they learned that the vainglorious strongman was wearing a wig. Interim Prime Minster Mahmoud Jibril told the Post that an autopsy team took samples of Gadhafi's blood, saliva and hair--and soon discovered that the hair did not actually belong to the former dictator. Gadhafi's body is now at a mosque outside of Sirte.
The former dictator was known for his vanity--in March, a Brazilian plastic surgeon came forward with an account of a four hour cosmetic procedure (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Brazilian-plastic-surgeon-apf-1565031570.html?x=0&.v=1) he'd performed on Gadhafi in 1995. "He told me that he had been in power for 25 years at that time, and that he did not want the young people of his nation to see him as an old man," Dr. Liacyr Ribeiro told the AP. "I recommended a facelift, but he refused." Gadhafi received hair plugs and had fat from his belly injected into his face to counteract the appearance of aging. The operation occurred in the middle of the night in Gadhafi's compound in Tripoli. He insisted on local anesthesia, so he could remain awake during the procedure; midway through the surgery, he paused to snack on a hamburger. (Ew!)
Gadhafi's hair, real or fake, was a signature. In a 2009 piece anointing the dictator a style icon, Vanity Fair said that Gadhafi's tonsorial look betrayed the influence of wild-maned rock impresario Phil Spector. The magazine put together a slide show of the dictator's fashions (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=139848jbh/EXP=1320501635/**http%3A//www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/qaddafi-slideshow200908%23slide=1)--a "homage to a sartorial genius of our time."


October 22nd, 2011, 10:43 AM
He was a good looking young man,


Had that Erik Estrada thing going for him (long before Estrada),



Then things started going bad,




October 24th, 2011, 10:16 AM
He got OLD.

And no longer kept himself fit, but that is very hard to do as a Dic...tator.

they dragged him out, beat the crap out of him and killed him. Does that fit with "humane" practices, nope, and (sad to say) if they want to play by the new rules, they should really make SOME attempt to make this appear like they are following the "law"...

But, realistically?

Oh, and ENOUGH with the damn CGI crap.

October 24th, 2011, 02:26 PM
Hey look, it's Bob Dylan

November 17th, 2011, 11:00 PM
Group in U.S. Hoped for Big Payday in Offer to Help Qaddafi

NY TIMES (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/18/world/africa/us-group-offered-to-aid-qaddafi-documents-show.html?_r=1&hp)
By SCOTT SHANE (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/scott_shane/index.html?inline=nyt-per) and PENN BULLOCK
Published: November 17, 2011

Bryan Denton for The New York Times
In April, when a group of Americans offered to serve as negotiators for Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi,

rebels in Misurata, Libya, above, with dead pro-Qaddafi soldiers, were making steady gains.

WASHINGTON — To a colorful group of Americans — the Washington terrorism expert, the veteran C.I.A. officer, the Republican operative, the Kansas City lawyer — the Libyan gambit last March looked like a rare business opportunity.

Even as NATO bombed Libya (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/libya/index.html?inline=nyt-geo), the Americans offered to make Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/q/muammar_el_qaddafi/index.html?inline=nyt-per) their client — and charge him a hefty consulting fee. Their price: a $10 million retainer before beginning negotiations with Colonel Qaddafi’s representatives.

“The fees and payments set forth in this contract are MINIMUM NON-REFUNDABLE FEES,” said the draft contract, with capital letters for emphasis. “The fees are an inducement for the ATTORNEYS AND ADVISORS to take the case and nothing else.”

Neil C. Livingstone, 65, the terrorism specialist and consultant, said he helped put together the deal after hearing that one of Colonel Qaddafi’s sons, Seif al-Islam el-Qaddafi (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/q/seif_alislam_el_qaddafi/index.html?inline=nyt-per), was interested in an exit strategy for the family. But he and his partners were not going to work for free, Mr. Livingstone said.

“We were not an eleemosynary organization,” he said.

Mr. Livingstone, a television commentator and prolific author who moved home to Montana this year to try a run for governor, said he had long been a vocal critic of Colonel Qaddafi and was briefly jailed by his government on a visit to Libya in the 1970s. The goal of the consulting deal, he insisted, was not to save Colonel Qaddafi but to prevent a bloodbath in Libya by creating a quick way out for the ruler and his family.

“The idea was to find them an Arabic-speaking sanctuary and let them keep some money, in return for getting out,” he said. The consultants promised to help free billions of dollars in blocked Libyan assets by steering the government into compliance with United Nations resolutions.

But the Americans did not get the Treasury Department license they needed to accept payment from Libya, which was then subject to sanctions. Colonel Qaddafi was ousted from Tripoli in August by rebel forces backed by NATO airstrikes, and was captured and killed (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/21/world/africa/qaddafi-is-killed-as-libyan-forces-take-surt.html) Oct. 20.

Now the confidential documents describing the proposed deal have surfaced on the Internet, offering a glimpse of how some saw lucrative possibilities in the power struggle that would end Colonel Qaddafi’s erratic reign. A Facebook page called WikiLeaks Libya (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=242441309140757&set=a.242441102474111.68511.229464187105136&type=1&permPage=1) has made public scores of documents apparently found in Libyan government offices after the Qaddafi government fell.

The papers contained a shock for the Americans: a three-page letter addressed to Colonel Qaddafi on April 17 by another partner in the proposed deal, a Belgian named Dirk Borgers. Rather than suggesting a way out of power, Mr. Borgers offered the Libyan dictator the lobbying services of what he called the “American Action Group” to outmaneuver the rebels and win United States government support.

Noting that the rebels’ Transitional National Council was gaining control of Libyan assets abroad, and attaching a registration form showing that the rebels had engaged their own lobbyists, Mr. Borgers said it was time for Colonel Qaddafi to fight back with his own Washington representatives.

“Our group of Libyan sympathizers is extremely worried about this and we would like to help to block the actions of your international enemies and to support a normal working relationship with the United States Government,” the letter said. “Therefore it is absolutely required to speak officially and with one strong voice with the American Government.”

Mr. Borgers ended the letter with the words “Your Obedient Servants,” signing his own name and adding those of the four Americans.

The letter is especially awkward for Mr. Livingstone — described by Mr. Borgers in the proposal as the “recognized best American anti-terrorism expert” — who closed his Washington consulting firm in April to plan his campaign for governor.

But Mr. Livingstone said that he had never seen the letter before this week and that it distorted his intentions. “That doesn’t reflect our view at all,” Mr. Livingstone said. “Our whole goal was to get the Qaddafis out of there as fast as possible.”

Another member of the proposed American team, Marty Martin, a former Central Intelligence Agency officer who led the agency’s Qaeda department from 2002 to 2004, said he, too, was chagrined to see Mr. Borgers’s letter this week.

“We were not there to be lobbyists for Qaddafi,” said Mr. Martin, who retired from the C.I.A. in 2007. “I was not told anything about that letter.” ...

FULL ARTICLE (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/18/world/africa/us-group-offered-to-aid-qaddafi-documents-show.html?_r=1&hp)

November 22nd, 2011, 01:34 PM
Turkish leader today in blunt message to Syrian leader:

“Just remove yourself from that seat before shedding more blood, before torturing more and for the welfare of your country as well as the region,” Mr. Erdogan said of Mr. Assad in a televised statement at his party meeting in Ankara.

“It is not heroism to fight against your own people. If you want to see someone, who has fought against his own people, look at Nazi Germany, Hitler, Mussolini, Ceaucescu of Romania,” Mr. Erdogan said. “If you do not learn your lesson from them, look at the Libyan leader, who pointed his gun against his own people and, only 32 days ago, got killed in a way that none of us desired, after using the same phrases that you use.”