NYC 2012 Olympics

[TomAuch]

Sunbelt cities like Houston and Tampa will never get the Olympics. Tampa doesn't even have a real public transit system. Anyway.....NYC 2016!

[ZippyTheChimp]

If Houston gets the Olympics just 10 years after the Atlanta embarrassment, I might spend the summer of 2016 in North Korea.

[pianoman11686]

Speaking of 2016:

NYC2016? Officials Wait to Decide on Another Bid

By LYNN ZINSER

Published: July 7, 2005

SINGAPORE, Thursday, July 7 - Having made such a passionate plea for the 2012 Games, New York's Olympic bid leaders faced the immediate, if unanswerable, question of whether they would try again for 2016.

The answer was not yes, or no, or even maybe. They did not even want to contemplate the question.

"A lot of my colleagues have asked, 'Are they coming back?' " said Anita DeFrantz, one of the United States' International Olympic Committee members. "To which I responded, 'Today is not the day to ask that.' "

A lot of things would have to happen before New York could line up again in front of the I.O.C. and make another pitch for the Games. First, the bid founder, Daniel L. Doctoroff, or someone else would have to take up the cause. Doctoroff spent 11 years and $4 million of his own money on this unsuccessful bid, and he was not ready to commit to another bid Wednesday.

"We had a unique set of circumstances," he said. "I think this was our moment."

A key factor in Doctoroff's decision will be whether Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, who supported this bid enthusiastically, is re-elected in November.

Bloomberg has also said there is no guarantee that some of the land that would have been used for the 2012 Games - like the site in Queens that was to be used for athletes' housing - will still be available.

New York would also have to be chosen again by the United States Olympic Committee as the country's bid city for 2016. Groups from Los Angeles, Washington and San Francisco may also vie for the bid. New York narrowly defeated San Francisco for the 2012 bid.

On Wednesday, U.S.O.C. officials said they would put a bid city in the running for the 2016 Summer Games but would not offer a candidate for the 2014 Winter Games. (The 2010 Winter Games will be held in Vancouver, British Columbia.)

New York's ouster in the second round of voting Wednesday would not be a factor in that selection, U.S.O.C. officials said.

Peter V. Ueberroth, the U.S.O.C. chairman, said he did not subscribe to the belief that a city should keep bidding because the I.O.C. favored persistent cities.

"There used to be a theory that you get in line and all that," Ueberroth said. "It's bunk. It doesn't work. Forget it."

Paris, which was also passed over for the 1992 and the 2008 Games, has now lost three Olympic bids in 20 years. Beijing and Athens, however, were awarded the Games in recent years after being rejected in previous attempts.

U.S.O.C. officials say the I.O.C. gravitates toward people it likes, and Doctoroff and Bloomberg were praised by the I.O.C.

"We had a great mayor and a great group that handled this bid," Ueberroth said. "I would hope that our criteria with our board rates some of those things very, very highly. New York, given all the situations in the world today, did a great job with dignity."

Ueberroth said he did not know whether Doctoroff or Bloomberg would try again.

"He has to judge the city, decide what resources they have," Ueberroth said about Bloomberg. "He's got to run the city first. Go back four years the other direction and think about New York. I can't predict what will happen."

Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company

[212]

Clearly, New York's bid had plenty of problems. One obstacle that might still be around for any U.S. city in 2016 is the country's post-2001 tightening of visa requirements. Despite New York's assurances, some countries' IOC representatives (one news article quoted Syria's) were reluctant to vote for a venue they might have trouble getting into.

True, I don't know that we'll ever get Syria's vote -- but there's a pretty big part of the world that it's a lot harder to get in from. For example, we already know that foreign college students increasingly are avoiding American universities because of the red tape.

Not that I have a solution. We need border security more than we need the Olympics. :(

[BrooklynRider]

If Houston gets the Olympics just 10 years after the Atlanta embarrassment, I might spend the summer of 2016 in North Korea.

I hear it is a great place to diet.... Or, is that die? I always get it mixed up.

[ZippyTheChimp]

Media deprivation.

[NYatKNIGHT]

If our city tries for the 2016 games, hopefully our next president will come to bat for us (or at least won't be seen as a detriment to us) like the other cities' national leaders did for them.

[robster]

Hahahaha we got the olympics suckers!!!!!!!!!!

[TLOZ Link5]

Hahahaha we got the olympics suckers!!!!!!!!!!

Not that many of us mind ;-)

[robster]

Darn. Why do americans never get upset.

[NYatKNIGHT]

You mean, why don't we lash out at childish taunts?

[TonyO]

NYTimes
September 8, 2005

New York Mum as Los Angeles Says It Will Bid on 2016 Games

By LYNN ZINSER
A Los Angeles group declared its intention yesterday to bid for the 2016 Olympics, but the future of a potential New York bid remained far from clear two months after the city's failed attempt to land the 2012 Games.

The United States Olympic Committee has not announced its timetable for selecting an American bid city for 2016, but a committee led by Barry Sanders, a lawyer, and backed by Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa of Los Angeles unofficially kicked off the bidding season with its announcement.

"This is a city with so many obvious attributes, because of what kind of city it is, the climate, the spirit of the city," Sanders said in a telephone interview. "We think Los Angeles was made for the Olympic Games."

Since New York lost a five-city race for the 2012 Games in July, when London won the vote by members of the International Olympic Committee, city officials have not rushed to embrace another run for 2016. Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg has put off any serious consideration of another bid until after the November election. He emphasized during the 2012 process that New York could not guarantee it would return for another bid.

When Bloomberg has addressed the topic recently, he has said that the city would probably need to find another bid leader willing to spend the time and raise the money necessary because he doubted that Deputy Mayor Daniel L. Doctoroff, the 2012 bid leader, would continue in the role.

Doctoroff, who said yesterday that he did not want to comment on his future role, spent 11 years and said he raised about $35 million in private donations for the 2012 bid.

That does not mean other officials from the 2012 group could not revive the bid, which has been discussed among some of the board members.

The U.S.O.C. will give them plenty of time to consider the options. At a meeting Saturday in Denver, the committee will discuss how to choose the next American bid city. It is a process that officials have promised will be different from the one that gave New York the nod over San Francisco in 2002, because the U.S.O.C. has reorganized. In 2002, the committee's 123-member board voted on a winner. Now, the committee's board has been reduced to 11 members.

Some of the changes will also be a response to problems in the 2012 process. There was friction between the U.S.O.C. and NYC2012 over the bid's reliance on the West Side Stadium plan, which was rejected by New York State officials only a month before the I.O.C. vote, becoming a major factor in the bid's defeat.

The U.S.O.C. has vowed to institute a rigorous set of selection criteria to choose the next city, including an emphasis on having facilities approved long before the I.O.C. selection.

But those criteria are not likely to be determined until this fall, when cities will be offered the chance to apply. A winner is likely to be chosen by 2007 for the I.O.C. selection process, which will end in 2009.

The Los Angeles group's eagerness to bid comes as no surprise. The city failed to make the list of finalists the U.S.O.C. considered in 2002, but it has long sent signals that it would return for the 2016 race.

Sanders has a long history of involvement with Olympic sports, including serving as general counsel to the organizing committee of the 1984 Los Angeles Games, which was led by the U.S.O.C.'s current chairman, Peter Ueberroth.

Ueberroth, though, has no role with Sanders's group, a U.S.O.C. spokesman, Darryl Seibel, said. And Sanders said he was not relying on his long association with Ueberroth.

"He would not let us compromise his integrity, and we would not attempt to," Sanders said. "We not are advised at all by Peter Ueberroth."

Sanders emphasized that Los Angeles offered an extensive array of existing facilities, including the same Coliseum that was used in the 1932 and 1984 Games for the opening and closing ceremonies and for track and field.

It remains to be seen whether Los Angeles's experience as an Olympic host will be a positive or a negative to the I.O.C. Sanders says that the selection of London as the site of an Olympics for a third time signals that the I.O.C. is not reluctant to tread on old ground.

Los Angeles is the only American city to play host for a Summer Olympics more than once. Part of New York's unsuccessful pitch for 2012 was that it had never been the host for the Olympics and would help break new ground for the Games.

[YKJ]

Would you guys support a New York City bid for the 2016 Olympics?

I would greatly back a bid. It'd be great for the outer boroughs, finally giving THEM the limelight for once.

[TomAuch]

I would like to see NYC get the 2016 games, but I'm not sure if the US Olmypic Committee will renominate NYC (the decision to choose the US city is at the end of this year or the beginning of next year.) If NYC isn't a serious contender this time around, then I hope that the American city is either Chicago or Philadelphia, because the Olmypics is good for raising the profiles of the host cities. Both Chicago and Philly are cursed with a "second city" image that makes them look inferior when in fact they are two of America's greatest cities.

[YKJ]

Well, they have a hell of a better shot than they did for 2012.

They wouldn't need to build an Olympic Stadium (New Mets Stadium expansion), and they could put the Olympic Village at the old Flushing Airport site.

If the Flushing Sports Complex ideas go through, NYC without a doubt will be chosen to host the 2016 Olympics.

[noik53]

I always had this idea of increasing the size of Icahn stadium on Rikers island to be able to host the Summer Olymnpics for 2016, and by mixing some of the ideas that was in the Jets stadium plan. The stadium could become a multi functional venue. This could create an annex to the Javits convention center in the city (thus providing the needed additional place) and it can be changeable to hold all sorts of events. Rikers island has so much potencial, why not the olympics. And then maybe this could lead to further devolepedments like a subway expension with reaches Rikers and La'Guardia or a hotel which will serve the island, and convention center.

[tmg]

You mean Randall's Island, I hope? :-)

[pianoman11686]

Speaking of Chicago...

Mayor expands Olympic dream

Daley says Games would benefit not just city but region

By Gary Washburn
Tribune staff reporter
Published January 5, 2006

Sounding increasingly enthusiastic about hosting the 2016 summer Olympics, Mayor Richard Daley on Wednesday said the games could reshape Chicago the way the World's Columbian Exposition did in 1893 and the World's Fair did in 1933.

"Cities always have to change. If you don't change, you live in the past, and if you live in the past, you have no future," Daley said. "When the Olympics leave, what do you have? You have housing, you have parks, you have improvements in schools, you have improvements in public transportation."

Though he said it is far too early to know whether Chicago will toss its hat into the ring, the mayor said he will appoint an exploratory committee of business and civic leaders by month's end to investigate the feasibility of a bid.

If Chicago decides to seek the Games, "you are not going to use any local money that would be used for the local budget that would impair improvements in education, housing, jobs, homeless programs, parks ... things like that," he said.

He raised the possibility of a fundraising effort that would go beyond Chicago's boundaries.

A financial package presented to Olympic officials could be submitted "by a city, by a state, by a region or a number of states" that would reap some measure of benefit from the Games, he said. "There are many options."

Daley reiterated that any infrastructure built to host the Games, from housing to high-speed rail lines, must be reusable in a way that would make life better for local and regional residents.

The Tribune reported last month that the mayor has floated the idea of building a new major stadium in Chicago for a second National Football League team that would double as the main Olympic venue.

Daley acknowledged that he had not yet talked to the NFL, and critics have scoffed at the idea and questioned who would pay for a facility with at least 80,000 seats that could cost from $600 million to $1 billion.

But on Wednesday, the mayor expanded on remarks he first made last fall when he raised the possibility of using an existing arena.

"You look at Indiana, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, South Bend," he said. "You have the University of Illinois at Champaign. Then you look at how well you improve transportation to Champaign-Urbana. You would need it. You need better transportation to Milwaukee, you need better transportation to South Bend.

"Remember, everything you do benefits not only the city but the region, and that's how you have to look at this."

The University of Illinois' Memorial Stadium has nearly 71,000 seats, Notre Dame Stadium in South Bend, about 81,000.

Miller Park, the Milwaukee Brewers' home, has the advantage of a retractable dome, but seats only 42,700, far under Olympic requirements. However, the University of Wisconsin's Camp Randall Stadium in Madison has a capacity of over 80,000.

Daley, who prides himself on being a student of history, said that the World's Columbian Exposition of 1893 and the 1933 World's Fair helped redefine Chicago.

Both events "changed the city ... the feeling of the city and the perception of the city," the mayor said.

Jim Scherr, chief executive officer of the U.S. Olympic Committee, said Chicago would "not only be an excellent host for an Olympic Games but would have an opportunity to be a successful bidder if it chose to bid and if we chose to run.

"But we are quite a ways down the line," he cautioned.

The U.S. committee first must be convinced that an American candidate city would compete on "a level playing field" as the International Olympic Committee considers worldwide contenders, Scherr said. "We would not ask [a] city to spend the $30 million to $35 million to conduct the bid phase without a real chance of winning."

The international committee is scheduled to make its choice for the 2016 Games in 2009.

The three American cities that have hosted modern Olympic Games all have had "financial surpluses," Scherr said. Atlanta and Salt Lake City had "modest surpluses," while Los Angeles "had a record surplus which still stands in the Olympic movement."

Scherr appeared with Daley at a City Hall news conference where they announced that Chicago has been selected as a new Community Partner, joining three other U.S. cities with the same status. The cities raise money for Olympic-related causes, including training of local athletes, and host Olympic and Paralympic (for disabled athletes) events and programs.

Participating in the Community Partner program "demonstrates not only to us but to the international world that a city is interested in supporting the Olympic movement and its goals," Scherr said. "I think it is very important."

Copyright 2006, Chicago Tribune

[YKJ]

Bush taps Betts for Olympics

BY DANIEL KATZ
Staff Reporter

President George W. Bush '68 announced Monday that Roland Betts '68, the senior fellow on the Yale Corporation, has been selected to join a presidential delegation to the 2006 Olympic Games in Turin, Italy, led by first lady Laura Bush.

Betts, a classmate and close personal friend of Bush -- they were brothers in the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity -- served on the U.S. Olympic Committee for eight years and served on the board of directors of a committee to bring the 2012 Olympic Games to New York City, a bid that failed when London was chosen earlier this year to host the games.

Along with Laura Bush and eight other delegation members -- including close friends of the President and former Olympic athletes such as figure skater Dorothy Hamill -- Betts will host and attend events held by heads of state and the executive committee of the International Olympic Committee, Betts said.

The opportunity to interact with members of the International Olympic Committee is valuable given the possibility of another New York bid for the 2016 Games, said Betts, who has been involved with efforts to bring the Olympics to his hometown since 1995.

"We are still giving serious thought to bidding for the Games in 2016 for New York, so it's important to keep touching the IOC bases," Betts said. "Plus, it will be a lot of fun."

The visit to the games, which are set to run from Feb. 10 to Feb. 26, will coincide with a Yale Corporation meeting in New Haven, Betts said. In his seven years on the Corporation, the University's highest decision-making body, he has missed only three of 42 meetings, all due to his presence at the Olympic Games.

Although the decision on whether or not to miss the meeting was difficult, Betts said, he ultimately decided to join the delegation at the urging of Yale President Richard Levin.

"I was very torn, but this is too good an opportunity," Betts said. "I talked to President Levin and he said, 'Take it.' "

Betts has been involved in numerous community and development activities during his post-Yale years. Soon after graduation, he taught public school in Harlem for 10 years before moving on to Columbia Law School.

Betts is a prominent New York developer and the founder, chairman and chief executive officer of Chelsea Piers, L.P., which operates the Chelsea Piers Sports and Entertainment Complex in Manhattan. He is also a director of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, which is responsible for rebuilding the World Trade Center site.

I just hope they have better venues this time.

[antinimby]

Thanks for the welcome :) . I've been trying to look for sites that where I could find some of New Yorkers that would support another Summer Games bid from NYC. I've been lurking on this site for a while now and I've been a regular on GamesBids.com. I'm not an NYC2012 insider though and I've never worked with them. I was a registered volunteer though, but I wasn't able to go to most of the events for the bid. :(

We have lots of time on our hands. And since construction for most of the venues would start in a few months or years, most venues would either be brand new or faily new or recently renovated well ahead for the 2016 Summer Games. I really believe our biggest problem would be the Olympic Village site.

And there were news for redeveloping Willets Point. They've actually chosen some developers already to submit proposals for the site, and one of them is Bruce Ratner! Most of them are proposing building office buildings in the area, perfect for the games' international press center. Brian Hatch of newyorkgames.org has been suggesting the Old Flushing Airport complex for the Olympic Village, which IMO, he's right. It's perfect as it's less than 2 miles away from the Flushing Meadows Sports Complex (Shea, National Tennis Center, etc).

I think Mayor Bloomberg broke ground already for a new olympic-sized pool in the same sports park, in replacement of the ice skating rink or adjacent to it, I just can't remember where it would be exactly built, but it will be in the same complex.

The signs are really everywhere. New facilities being built everywhere. All we're waiting is the decision from the USOC if they'll pursue 2016. Then NYC can decide if we'll bid. But IMO, it's perfect timing as Guilianni had put it too.

And with some big cities from different countries like Tokyo, Rome, Rio, New Delhi, Madrid, Moscow, Capetown etc, the USOC must not choose another 2nd city for the USA like LA, Chicago or SF. They have to go with their best, and right now, IMO, the most prepared in the US to host is either LA or NYC. Now, which one are you going to choose? :)The above quote is from the new Mets stadium thread (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?p=90097#post90097).
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Well, sign me up!:D

God, I hope you're right about the biggest obstacle being only the athletes' village and press center. I was always more worried about the stadium or lack thereof.

You're right about the new facilities. In fact, I don't think we'll need the Meadowlands or Nassau Coliseum. By that time, the Brooklyn Nets arena and perhaps even a new MSG should be completed.

As for the USOC, I think they're not necessarily interested in the bigness or clout of the American city but who has the best overall proposal. Don't forget that Atlanta won despite being a lesser-than-prominent U.S. city. As the Committe probably have learned from 2012, the quality of the proposal is very important.

I'm sure the USOC will bid for 2016. They'd be stupid not to.
I mean, isn't the cycle back to a North American city this time? If any nominated American city has a decent proposal, it'll practically be a shoe in.

[NewYork2016]

Well, the 2012 Olympic race was a race of some of the Greatest Cities in the World. Although 2016 won't feature a lot, it's still a high-profile race with Tokyo (considered as one of the big 4 in the World with NYC, London and Paris), Rome, Rio, New Delhi, Capetown, etc. The USOC still can't sleep behind the wheel and nominate a city that the IOC won't want. We all know how greedy the IOC can be. ;)

It's time to up the ante for another run for NYC to host the 2016 Summer Games...:)

[NewYork2016]

As for the USOC, I think they're not necessarily interested in the bigness or clout of the American city but who has the best overall proposal. Don't forget that Atlanta won despite being a lesser-than-prominent U.S. city. As the Committe probably have learned from 2012, the quality of the proposal is very important.

The quality is really important, it's the main requirement... to pass the shortlist. Once the cities are shortlisted and become candidates, it's the endless campaigning and wooing for votes, quality comes second.

It will be easier for the USOC to choose a city with a better stance in the world than any other city. The IOC during those days are different from the IOC of today. Gone are the days that the IOC can choose any city the USOC presents. The past 4 decided games were given to at least the largest city or the capital city of their respective countries, Sydney for Australia, Athens for Greece, Beijing for China, and London for the UK.

Add to that, the USOC is not a favorite child in the Olympic circle right now. Specially after the Salt Lake bribery scandal and the unpopularity of the current administration. So it has to be a high level of comfort with the IOC before the USOC can forward another city in its fold like Atlanta which we all know, is not the case right now.

[lofter1]

I'd think that both South America and Africa would be ahead of North America / USA for upcoming games ...

[YKJ]

I'd think that both South America and Africa would be ahead of North America / USA for upcoming games ...

I doubt it.

The government of Africa have the Olympics as the last thing on their minds. The Olympics are a prize, or a gigantic party as I see it. Their priorities are the people and economy of Africa. They have disease, famine, and poverty to fight. Plus, most areas of Africa don't have nearly the amoun of infrastructure needed. Cape Town, RSA and Cairo, EGY are Africa's best chances of hosting an Olympic Games.

South America has a better chance then Africa of hosting an Olympic Games before the USA/N-America. If South America wants to host a Games, they have to put forth a Brazilian bid, preferrably Rio de Janeiro. However, Brazil pretty much has the 2014 World Cup locked, and the IOC would probably see a Rio Games as being over-indulgent.

IMO, 2020 or 2024 is a perfect opportunity for either continents to put forth their bid. I think Rio, if bidding, could win 2020, and we'll see what Africa plans to do with an Olympic bid.

[NYatKNIGHT]

I think it's NYC's if they choose to go for it.

[NewYork2016]

I'd think that both South America and Africa would be ahead of North America / USA for upcoming games ...

Is this just me, or is it truly the norm? Because I'm feeling an anti-NYC rhetoric from you.

I'm new here on these boards and all the responses that I've received from you were against an NYC bid, against the design of the new Shea, against the chances of the USA to host the Olympics again in 2016, when most Olympic observers know (and I mean people who have been inside and have witnessed the races of the past 30-40 years!) that 2016 is best chance for North America to get it again.

Matter of fact, South America and Africa won't be ready to host the games in 2016, 2020 the earliest. And with great and more than capable cities vying for 2016, it's pretty much impossible for the "New Frontier" cities to grab that edition of the games.

[ZippyTheChimp]

Is it so incredulous for you to accept the fact that someone who disagrees with you position is not anti-NYC

[lofter1]

Is this just me, or is it truly the norm? Because I'm feeling an anti-NYC rhetoric from you.
Me? I love NYC.

Hate BS boondogles like the West Side Stadium proposal, though.

I'm new here on these boards and all the responses that I've received from you were against an NYC bid
Not true ... just pointing out that the prior bid was a failed attempt -- which was partly due to design deficiencies.

against the design of the new Shea
I have no real problem with the design of the new Shea, although I think the retro thing is a bit tired and kitschy.

against the chances of the USA to host the Olympics again in 2016
I'd like to see NYC get the Games. But the previous plan -- which you acknowledge is dead -- was, IMO, never a winnable proposal.

NYers do tend to think we are due something just because we're NYers, and this was a bit of a wake-up call. Remember how aghast so many were when NY didn't make it to the final rounds?

2016? Do we NEED them? Nope. Would it be good for NYC? MAYBE.

NYC has got a few other things to attend to in the meantime (new schools for one -- which look like they might be getting attended to) and the Games aren't my number one focus. But I'll keep chiming in, so don't let me thwart you from your goal. ;)

[lofter1]

btw: Am I detecting some anti-US rhetoric from you? ;)

...the USOC is not a favorite child in the Olympic circle right now. Specially after the Salt Lake bribery scandal and the unpopularity of the current administration.

[NewYork2016]

btw: Am I detecting some anti-US rhetoric from you? ;)

Honestly, it wasn't what I was pointing out. Read the whole post, and you'll understand why.

It will be easier for the USOC to choose a city with a better stance in the world than any other city. The IOC during those days are different from the IOC of today. Gone are the days that the IOC can choose any city the USOC presents. The past 4 decided games were given to at least the largest city or the capital city of their respective countries, Sydney for Australia, Athens for Greece, Beijing for China, and London for the UK.

Add to that, the USOC is not a favorite child in the Olympic circle right now. Specially after the Salt Lake bribery scandal and the unpopularity of the current administration. So it has to be a high level of comfort with the IOC before the USOC can forward another city in its fold like Atlanta which we all know, is not the case right now.

I was actually stating a fact and an actual instance that happened in the USOC's history and I was giving a suggestion. Don't ever try to twist what I meant on this one. It's not my rhetoric, it's already a part of history and we must try to change that image we have in the IOC. And it's not going to change if we slap and insult them by choosing another city other than NYC, IMO.

[NewYork2016]

I'd like to see NYC get the Games. But the previous plan -- which you acknowledge is dead -- was, IMO, never a winnable proposal.

NYers do tend to think we are due something just because we're NYers, and this was a bit of a wake-up call. Remember how aghast so many were when NY didn't make it to the final rounds?

And never on my posts I suggested we go back to that and use it for another bid. It's not a winnable bid with all the uncertainty it posed.

But with the latter 2012 bid, it was a winnable bid if it was the bid since they submitted it to the IOC. It was an attempt to save face, but it layed an egg in the voting process.

Put the village in the vicinity of the Flushing Meadows Sports Complex, you have a bid with a great cluster. If you're still pessimistic about it, then I don't know how you'll try to plan a New York bid. Give me possible alternatives, then maybe I'll believe you really want an Olympic Games in NYC.

Constructive criticism is showing your concern and give some suggestions. Don't just say, you're against this and "oh, that's not going to work". Then what's going to work then? If you don't have one, then you are really don't want NYC to bid then.

[NewYork2016]

We've been spending a lot of money in our "screwls" already, continuing to add more and more, and look at where it's bringing us. It's not until Bloomberg have taken responsibility and centralized the "screwl" system, under him that we have produced results. It's not money that we need to spend more, it's how efficient we're going to make that money work. And for the meantime, let's not add money, but make the money we already use work for the system properly.

[lofter1]

^ Like I said it's not high on my list of things that NEED to be done.

But it won't stop me from tossing in my two cents. As you can see by the number of my posts ;) .

(ps: I was just ribbing you with the anti-US rhetoric dig. humor is sometimes tricky in cyber space.)

[NewYork2016]

^ Like I said it's not high on my list of things that NEED to be done.

But it won't stop me from tossing in my two cents. As you can see by the number of my posts ;) .

I apologize if I sounded grouchy, but as you can see, I'm really excited and anxious on another possible bid from NYC for 2016. ;)

And the signs are everywhere. Plus there are statements from city officials, former bid officials and the former Mayor Guilianni himself calling another bid from NYC.

[User Name]

Specially after the Salt Lake bribery scandal...
You can't bribe someone that doesn't *want* to be bribed.

[lofter1]

True -- but that doesn't absolve USOC of anything

[YKJ]

Another cryptic article suggesting a possible 2016 bid:

http://http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/09/sports/othersports/09usoc.html

So far, New York has not put itself on that list. The I.O.C. will vote on the bid city for the 2016 Games in 2009.

Deputy Mayor Daniel L. Doctoroff, the leader of New York's bid for the 2012 Games, said in a telephone interview Saturday that city officials had not made a decision about 2016. "We really haven't been thinking about it a whole lot," he said. "I would be interested to hear what they have to say about the process, and once we understand that, we would respond."

It seems that NYC2016 has gone from doubtful to possible.

[Comelade]

small jewels of esthetism, the clip of the town of New York for the j.o of 2012

http://newyorkbirds.free.fr/video_pub.html (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6609274094327115171&pl=true)

[YKJ]

small jewels of esthetism, the clip of the town of New York for the j.o of 2012

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6609274094327115171&pl=true

I loved that promotion! Thanks for the video!

I hope NYC bids again.

[YKJ]

Hmm, does anyone think New York City will bid for the 2016 Olympic Games?

[antinimby]

Doesn't matter what people think.
What matters is what stadium is there in the city to hold an Olympics?

[noik53]

If I am the only person who thinks this to be possible, I Doubt It. NYC would revitalize this island to become a National Treasure. Why can't we bring back the drive, the daring of NY that made the ESB and the Statue of Liberty. I believe building a Stadium on Randall will be great. Not to mention all of the modes of transportation accessible.

[NewYork2016]

If I am the only person who thinks this to be possible, I Doubt It. NYC would revitalize this island to become a National Treasure. Why can't we bring back the drive, the daring of NY that made the ESB and the Statue of Liberty. I believe building a Stadium on Randall will be great. Not to mention all of the modes of transportation accessible.

That's really going to encounter a lot of problems. Right now, a water park will be constructed on the island starting late this year and it's getting a lot of opposition.

We already have a stadium in there, Icahn Stadium. It hosted several USTF events.

I agree it will bring back the glory days of NYC's aggressiveness, but there'll be huge hurdles to overcome on such a plan.

[Teno]

Our city leaders picked the absolute wrong year for their Olympic bid. 2012 was a long shot 2016 would have been our year.

2016 is the year a US city is pretty sure to win the Olympics. Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston, Philadelphia, and Chicago are all vying for the bid, with no word from New York.

[BrooklynRider]

I would hope we give up on trying to bring the Olympics here.