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July 31st, 2003, 11:06 PM
Ride the Staten Island Ferry to see the famous skyline and Statue of Liberty from Upper New York Bay. It's free and runs about every 30 minutes. Ride on the front or back of the ship for the best views.

Statue of Liberty (http://www.wirednewyork.com/landmarks/liberty/default.htm) and Staten Island Ferry (http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry.htm). The view from Beard Street Pier in Red Hook, Brooklyn.

http://www.wirednewyork.com/brooklyn/red_hook/images/red_hook_beard_street_pier_liberty_17march02.jpg (http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry.htm)

Staten Island Ferry (http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry.htm) and the Brooklyn skyline at sunset.

http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/staten_island_ferry_brooklyn_8july03.jpg (http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry.htm)

August 1st, 2003, 05:20 AM
Staten Island's only icon is its link to Manhattan.

August 1st, 2003, 11:53 AM
SI Yankees stadium is a smaller icon.

TLOZ Link5
August 1st, 2003, 06:22 PM
There's also the landfill, and maybe Historic Richmondtown.

August 1st, 2003, 06:42 PM
Verrazano Narrows: 1/2 icon.

Jack Ryan
August 1st, 2003, 10:52 PM
How about Carrere & Hastings' Borough Hall? Or Cass House by Frank Lloyd Wright?

August 1st, 2003, 11:40 PM
The borough has many assets, but only one and a half icon.

August 4th, 2003, 10:19 AM
And that half icon is its link to Brooklyn.

August 4th, 2003, 03:27 PM
Greenbelt - largest NYC park
Todt Hill - highest point on eastern seaboard south of Maine.

But these are assets. We need to find half-an-icon.

August 4th, 2003, 04:03 PM
Pelham Bay Park is the city's largest (Parks FAQs (http://www.nycgovparks.org/sub_faqs/park_faqs.html#g4)).

Here you go, 100% in Richmond County:

Society of St. Paul Seminary (Roman Catholic), 2187 Victory Boulevard, Staten Island, designed by Silverman & Cika, 1969 (http://www.thecityreview.com/aia.html)

It has the potential, all it needs is publicity.

August 4th, 2003, 04:41 PM
Well respected Tibetan Art museum...

Snug Harbor Cultural Center...

September 3rd, 2003, 09:02 PM

TLOZ Link5
September 3rd, 2003, 09:31 PM
There's also that Chinese tea garden that they featured on a recent episode of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.

September 19th, 2003, 12:52 AM
September 19, 2003

To Staten Island, via Wisconsin


In Wisconsin Thursday, finishing touches were put on the Guy V. Molinari. Rides on the new ferry are still a year away.

During peak hours on weekdays, it is a 15-minute wait for one of the Staten Island ferries to heave into the terminal. Even during the sparsely traveled witching hours — 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning — a ferry chugs along every hour.

But for a new ferry to show up in the city, you need patience. Decades of patience.

The wait is over.

It looks like a giant orange block. It weighs about 3,000 tons. It carries 4,400 passengers. It costs $40 million (and that's the low bid). It is the new Staten Island Ferry.

When you contemplate New York's icons — the Statue of Liberty, the Empire State Building, Yankee Stadium — somewhere in there you have to squeeze the Staten Island Ferry, enabler of that captivating and absolutely free 25-minute ride between Staten Island and Lower Manhattan.

And so when a new ferry comes along, it matters. The last time the city bought one was in 1986. The last time it bought a boat of this size was nearly 40 years ago. Anybody you ask in city government, and especially the 65,000 people who ride the ferry every weekday, would have to agree: it's about time.

The big boat is not actually here. It is in Wisconsin. You probably won't be able to ride it until next September. But if you are dying to see it and can get to Wisconsin tomorrow, the ferry will be launched into the water and christened at a shipyard in Marinette, about an hour north of Green Bay, where it was built.

"For us, this is very exciting," said Iris Weinshall, the commissioner of the city Department of Transportation, which operates the ferry. "Ferries are very expensive. You don't buy one every year."


One of the lesser-known prerogatives of being mayor of New York is you get to name new Staten Island ferries, assuming that you are in office in one of those decades that the city buys one. Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg chose to call this one the Guy V. Molinari, after the former Staten Island borough president.

The mayor will be in Wisconsin tomorrow for the launching, as will Mr. Molinari. His daughter, Susan Molinari, the former congresswoman, will serve as the boat's "sponsor" and will get to crack a bottle of Champagne across the bow. The city insisted it be a New York brand. A brief problem. Dennis McCloskey, the president of the Manitowoc Marine Group, whose Marinette Marine division built the boat, said he tried 10 liquor stores in Wisconsin without success. Finally, someone from the New York Transportation Department furnished a bottle.

Building the big ferry was an 18-month job. Originally, the boat was supposed to get to New York this year, but the shipyard went on strike for 44 days last winter, and there went the schedule.

After its launching, finishing touches still remain. The smokestacks must be added, the insides painted, the seats installed — and, it needs to be tested. The outside has been painted that inimitable Staten Island orange that glows in the fog.

The shipyard figures to begin the trip to New York in late May, as it must wait for the St. Lawrence Seaway to reopen after the ice clears. The ferry will pass through the Great Lakes onto the St. Lawrence Seaway and then down the Atlantic Coast to the Hudson River. If all things go well, the trip will take three weeks.

Once the ferry arrives, the United States Coast Guard, which runs the harbor, has to inspect it. The crew has to undergo a month or so of training. The city hopes to put the new ferry into regular service after Labor Day.

In appearance, the boat is not radically different from the one that it is replacing. It does have an extra, fifth hurricane deck, so passengers can ride at the same level as the captain. It can carry 900 more passengers than the old boat, and has about twice as much outdoor space, because commuters said that they like being outdoors. The new boat can also carry 30 cars, 10 fewer than its predecessor. Since the Sept. 11 terrorist attack, cars have been banned from the ferries, though the Transportation Department hopes one day they will return.

The Molinari ferry has more efficient, improved engines that should require less maintenance. Instead of four engines that must run together, it has three engines, only two of which are necessary for operation. It travels at the same service speed of 18.2 miles an hour. One new feature is exhibit space for art shows. The intention is to display nautical scenes relevant to Staten Island.

There are two other identical boats on order, one expected to be delivered late next fall and the other in the spring or summer of 2005. They have yet to be named, though the city has gotten a lot of letters from people hoping one of them will be named in memory of Sept. 11.

The ferry fleet consists of seven boats, of three designs. The new ferry and its sister boats will replace the three Kennedy-class boats, which began operating in 1965, when the population of Staten Island was about half of what it is now and a ferry could be built for $4 million. Not long after the Guy V. Molinari enters service, the city will retire one of the Kennedy boats, the American Legion. The two others, the John F. Kennedy and the Gov. Herbert H. Lehman, will cease operating after the companion ferries arrive.

Like all surplus city property, the American Legion will be turned over to the Department of Citywide Administrative Services, which will probably auction it off. There is not tremendous demand for 40-year-old ferries that carry 3,500 people and 40 cars, but there is some. A few years ago, businessmen from somewhere in the South called the Transportation Department wondering if it had a spare ferry lying around it could convert into a restaurant. Who knows? They might still need it.

A few former ferries became prison dormitories for Rikers Island. Another one has been seen in Red Hook, Brooklyn, and one has been sighted near Woodbridge, N.J.

The launching of this ferry has been much anticipated in Marinette and neighboring towns. Mr. McCloskey said, "Take a seven-story building and think about launching it into the water." It only requires about 20 seconds to drop it sideways into the Menominee River, but as Mr. McCloskey put it, "It's 20 seconds that you'll never forget."

There will be a mighty big splash. Something like a thousand onlookers are expected.

"People like to see that splash," Mr. McCloskey said.

Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company

Specifications (http://www.manitowocmarine.com/Current_Projects/SIFerryLanding.asp)

November 7th, 2003, 08:43 PM
The view of Manhattan (http://www.wirednewyork.com/manhattan/default.htm) from Staten Island Ferry (http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry.htm).

http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/staten_island_ferry_7nov03.jpg (http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry.htm)

March 11th, 2004, 01:53 PM
I'm working with a company bidding on a project for the SIFerry. I have been searching for the height of the ferry, but have been unable to find it. Can someone please help me? Thank you.

March 11th, 2004, 04:36 PM
Manitowoc website at http://www.manitowocmarine.com/Current_Projects/SIFerryLanding.asp gives 70 ft height, 310 ft length

March 22nd, 2004, 07:01 AM
February 12, 2004

Sisterhood in a Floating Powder Room


A secret sorority: mirrored reflections of Elizabeth Ferris, left, and next to her, Irma Sindicic, with curlers.

Katja Esson, a German filmmaker who lives in New York, began lurking about the ladies' room on the 8:15 Staten Island ferry to Manhattan in the summer of 2001. Call it location scouting or character casting.

"I thought I was being very subtle and smart," recalled Ms. Esson, whose 40-minute film, "Ferry Tales," was nominated for an Academy Award last month. "I'd ride the ferry, and the women wouldn't notice me."

Not a chance. A handful of women who rode the 8:15 into Manhattan and assembled in the ferry's powder room shared a tight bond and cast a wary eye on outsiders. Leaving behind their roles as wives and mothers for jobs in accounting, advertising, fund-raising, fashion and social work, they fixed their hair and put on makeup, all the while talking about anything and everything: sex, race, husbands, difficult bosses, rebellious teenage children. If you could not deal with it, then that was your problem, and maybe you just did not belong in that aqua-and-white room with the fluorescent lights and the double mirrors.

That summer Valerie Campbell, a member of the group who always speaks her mind, recalled noticing this "white woman who had these dreadlocks, and this little camera with her." (Ms. Esson had first visited the ladies' room on a tip from a friend who had starred in a music video filmed aboard the ferry.) She said that whenever Ms. Esson left the room, the women seated on stools before the mirror would whisper: "Who is that weird woman? What do you think she wants?"

And even after Ms. Esson whispered to Ms. Campbell that she would like to make a documentary about the women of the ladies' room, and Ms. Campbell spun around on her stool, shrieking, "I'm going to be a star," they still were not sure what that woman wanted.

Nor was Ms. Esson sure what she would find. "Women came in with curlers, they'd paint their toenails, shave their legs," she said. "The transformation was incredible. At first I was thinking, 'Cinderella,' 'Working Girl,' women staring at the skyline of Manhattan and making themselves up to be somebody. But I found out there was so much more to that room."

One of the women, Elizabeth Ferris, who works in administration for New York City Ballet, said: "It's like a state of suspended animation. It's out of the context of everybody's lives. People can be more honest. You're not talking to your next-door neighbor who knows your husband and kids, or your mother's friend."

"On the ferry, I'm not Mrs., I'm not Mommy, I'm not Mrs. Hanks Will You Bring Me That Report?" said Kamillah Hanks, a mother of four who works in public relations.

Last week Ms. Ferris and Ms. Hanks were aboard the 8:15, and the big news in the powder room was not only the Academy Award nomination ("Go all the way!" cried out one vendor), but Ms. Ferris's newly adopted son from Ukraine.

Not all of the six principals of "Ferry Tales" ride the 8:15 every day anymore, but here they were aboard for an interview, talking about a new mascara for $3.99 (Maybelline), complaining about a daughter in the shower for 20 minutes, checking out pictures of 2-year-old Peter, from Ukraine.

"I've seen Liz struggling with the pros and cons of adopting for two years," said Rachel Francis, who has three children and works as a therapist in a foster care agency.

Ms. Esson, 38, has worked on music videos and on serious documentaries for German television. She shot 60 hours of video over a 14-month period and weeded out the moments when her subjects performed for the camera, talked in clichés about juggling careers and families, spoke off-the-cuff in ways that would hurt themselves or their families or the other women. "Ferry Tales," set largely aboard the boat, moves quickly but allows each woman to establish an individual voice.

It is one of three films nominated for the Oscar for best short documentary. The others are "Chernobyl Heart," about the effects of radiation on children who lived near the site of the 1986 nuclear accident, and "Asylum," about a Ghanaian woman escaping an arranged marriage and genital cutting and seeking asylum in the United States.

If the women talk openly in the ladies' room, they reveal themselves even more on camera. Ms. Campbell says that when she first moved to Staten Island, she lived in a battered women's shelter with her children. Irma Sindicic moves from talking about how she thought she would be the next Donna Karan ("then reality struck") to talking about having been molested by an uncle when she was young. Ms. Campbell recalls the morning a woman came in who had just had an abortion and was bleeding profusely. Asked why she was on the boat, she said, "I just wanted to see somebody I could connect with."

Toward the end the women talk sparingly and movingly about being aboard the ferry on Sept. 11, 2001, about seeing the second plane hit the south tower of the World Trade Center, about the effect it has had on their lives. ("I always thought I was going to grow old," Ms. Ferris said. "Now I don't know if I have 20 minutes or 20 years.")

After Sept. 11 "one woman told me that there was so much emphasis on police and firemen, what about the secretaries, the people who just went to work that day?" Ms. Esson said. "You gave us a voice, she told me."

The film, not currently in theaters, is to be broadcast on HBO this year or next. Could it be a series? "We think it has enormous potential, and we would love to make that happen," said John Hoffman, HBO's supervising producer on "Ferry Tales." But there is no deal yet.

An Academy Award nomination is not what the women of the 8:15 expected when Ms. Esson first entered the ladies' room in 2001. But when they stop to think about it, maybe it should not be that much of a surprise.

"We all knew we had something special here," Ms. Sindicic said, "and it was only a matter of time before someone figured it out."

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

March 22nd, 2004, 07:03 AM
New Whitehall Terminal (http://www.schwartzarch.com/whf.htm)

May 16th, 2004, 09:56 PM
May 16 2004
Whitehall Terminal From 1 NY Plaza

May 26th, 2004, 03:34 PM
Do they still allow cars to be transported from S.I. to Manhattan and vice versus for free? I thought I heard that cars arnt allowed on any longer.

TLOZ Link5
May 26th, 2004, 05:14 PM
Do they still allow cars to be transported from S.I. to Manhattan and vice versus for free? I thought I heard that cars arnt allowed on any longer.

That is correct.

May 26th, 2004, 07:29 PM
What is? The dont allow them anymore?

May 26th, 2004, 08:17 PM
Does anybody have pictures of the old S.I. Ferry with automobiles on them?

May 26th, 2004, 08:37 PM
What is? The dont allow them anymore?

Correct, no more cars on the ferry...

May 26th, 2004, 08:53 PM
Why would they stop allowing cars on it? Thats stupid.

December 9th, 2004, 09:50 PM
Why would they stop allowing cars on it? Thats stupid.

Mayor David Dinkins banned cars on the ferry, ostensibly to reduce traffic in lower Manhattan. It really seemed ludicrous, since each car ferry only carried about 30 or less cars, every half hour or less, and thousands of cars stream into Manhattan via the bridges and tunnels every hour. If anything, the ferry kept a few cars off of the Gowanus and BQE.

Mayor Rudy Guiliani reinstated cars on the ferry.

9/11 ended cars on the ferry again. The new ferries the are currently being delivered are car ferries, so I assume there's some intention to reinstate cars on ferries some day.

December 9th, 2004, 09:53 PM
Do they still allow cars to be transported from S.I. to Manhattan and vice versus for free? I thought I heard that cars arnt allowed on any longer.

BTW, cars were not free. This was the last fare schedule for cars, when they were allowed prior to 9/11:

Regular Rate for Vehicles: *$3.00
Car Pool Rate (3 or more): * $2.00
Senior Citizen Driver : * $1.50
Motorcycles:* $1.25
* Collected each way

December 9th, 2004, 10:06 PM
Oh, I had always thought they were being transported for free. Thank you for the clarification.

December 9th, 2004, 10:33 PM
The new terminal is nearing completion. The building is closed in, and they are working on the 3rd slip. Much work remains on the plaza. There will be auto access. Three new boats will replace the Kennedy class boats, which are configured for pedestrians and autos. THe boats will have a capacity of 4400 passengers and 40 cars.

Whether or not the rationale for eliminating cars on the ferry was reduction in total traffic, that is not a realistic way of looking at it. During the years that cars were allowed, they accounted for only 2% of total ridership. But these few cars created problems out of proportion to their small mumbers.

At rush hour, they added to the already heavy traffic trying to move around Lower Manhattan. The boarding process is much less efficient than it is with just passengers.

The Barberi class boat was designed as passenger only. It is only 10% bigger than the Kennedy class, but holds 70% more passengers. The space the cars occupy on a Kennedy could hold 1,000 additional passengers.

In my opinion, the return of cars on the ferry is ill-advised.

December 9th, 2004, 10:54 PM
In my opinion, the return of cars on the ferry is ill-advised.

On the one hand, we have three new ferries that are designed to carry cars.

On the other hand, in the post-9/11 world, I assume that vehicles on the ferry are going to be continue to be considered very high risk, and that instituting security measures that would allow vehicles is going to be a very low priority, given the cost vs. the number of vehicles served. So I don't imagine vehicles will be returing to the ferry anytime soon.

But I have to say, that as a Staten Islander (who is vehemently pro-mass transit, and anti-cars in Manhattan; but also a pragmatist) I disagree. Anybody who is going to drive into Manhattan is going to drive, regardless. All that the ferry option did was keep some cars off of the Gowanus, BQE, and tunnels/bridges, as I mentioned.

The traffic in Lower Manhattan would inevitably be the same, regardless. The problems with boarding vehicles could easily be ameliorated with proper planning and execution. And I don't remember vehicles carrying vehicles being any more delayed than non-vehicle ferries.

On the very rare occasions that I used to ferry to take my vehicle into Manhattan (Sundays and evenings!) I not only saved vehicle and my psyche the wear and tear of driving through Brooklyn, but I lessened the amount of pollution I was contributing by letting the ferry do the driving!

December 10th, 2004, 12:00 AM
As I said, the small number of cars involved do not make this an overall traffic volume problem. The Gowanus, BQE, bridges and tunnels are already a mess. The added traffic will make no difference on these routes, but these few cars have a multiplying effect at the tip of Manhattan.

The problem will get worse in the next few years, as tour buses start visiting the WTC, and construction begins on whatever is decided for West St and the East River waterfront.

This is planning in the wrong direction, and the city paid more money for it. They could have purchased smaller boats.

February 2nd, 2005, 05:33 PM
Whitehall Terminal is almost complete. Besides the third slip, minor work remains. The plaza willl remain a mess for a few years, due to construction of the new 1/9 subway station.

The view of the city through the glass wall is nice. I would have taken a photo, but guards and dogs and level 1 security signs - I didn't want to confront the police state. Maybe on the weekend I'll pretend I'm a tourist who doesn't speak English.

February 2nd, 2005, 07:25 PM
What day was that photo taken?

February 2nd, 2005, 07:59 PM
Photos are delivered daily, fresh from the oven.

February 2nd, 2005, 08:13 PM
lol, okay, thank you. I was just wondering if there was actually STILL snow from that blizzard. wow...

February 5th, 2005, 07:45 PM
Staten Island Ferry (http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry.htm), Statue of Liberty, and Goldman Sachs Tower.

http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry_liberty.jpg (http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry.htm)

Staten Island Ferry (http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry.htm) and downtown Manhattan skyline.

http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry_downtown.jpg (http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry.htm)

February 6th, 2005, 10:59 AM
Great pics! Taken from another ferry?

February 9th, 2005, 12:02 PM
New ferry terminal unveiled


February 8, 2005, 7:20 PM EST

The city unveiled a soaring new Staten Island Ferry terminal at Whitehall in lower Manhattan Tuesday, two years late and about $50 million over budget.

The terminal, which replaces an outdated facility that was heavily damaged by a 1991 fire, features five new escalators and a 75-foot-tall, glass-enclosed entry hall with views of the skyline.

The cost of the project, originally budgeted at $150 million when it was first bid out in 2000, climbed to to $201 million by the time the facility was finished last month, said Andrew Alper, president of the city's Economic Development Corp., which oversaw the construction.

The increases were due to greater-than-anticipated construction costs and skyrocketing insurance and security expenses that were "9/11-related," Alper added.

The terminal's waiting room, which is expected to accommodate 65,000 passengers a day, is about twice the size of the structure it replaced, at about 19,000 square feet. The four-story building will also house about 200,000 square feet of office space and a solar- powered floor that will be heated on cold days.

"In the winter your tootsies will be warm," said Mayor Michael Bloomberg as a lone pigeon winged overhead in the cavernous terminal.

Bloomberg has also presided over the purchase of three new ferry boats, including one named after former Staten island Borough President Guy Molinari, a fellow Republican and political ally of Bloomberg's. Reconstruction of the St. George terminal on the State Island side will be completed later this year.

"These enhancements are an important part of our commitment to giving New Yorkers first class transportation facilities," said Bloomberg, adding that, "The projects have been complicated and time-consuming." The original Whitehall Terminal was built in 1907 and enlarged in 1954.

The Whitehall project, which began in late 2000, was plagued by troubles with contractors that may have contributed to delays, according to published accounts.

The president of the largest subcontractor on the project pleaded guilty to bribery in connection with work on a Brooklyn post office. In November, the New York Sun uncovered an internal memo from general contractor Barney Skanska, saying that the case created the potential for "very serious delays to work."

Copyright © 2005, Newsday, Inc. (http://www.nynewsday.com/)

February 9th, 2005, 12:23 PM
The connecting subway station is already u/c correct?

February 12th, 2005, 10:05 PM
This is the slideshow from the link I originally posted. Kris, please do not delete my posts.http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/transportation/nyc-ferrygal0208,0,6145877.photogallery?coll=nyc-manheadlines-trans

February 12th, 2005, 10:18 PM
You posted a link to the article. Newsday links don't last, and neither do its crummy slide shows. If you can't bother to paste the full article, don't complain if I delete your post.

February 12th, 2005, 10:23 PM
Looks nice, thanks for the link.

April 14th, 2005, 01:42 PM
At last, 'Welcome to Manhattan'
New Staten Island Ferry terminal is an elegant addition to city's architecture


April 14, 2005

For 14 years, the ferry ride across the world's most glamorous harbor has culminated in a trudge through a maze of plywood boards, hanging wires and temporary signs. Welcome to Manhattan.

Chaos has not been banished yet. Workers in hard hats still populate the edges of the building. Out front, Peter Minuit Plaza, which will eventually be embraced by a pair of gracefully curving canopies, is a torn-up mess.

But the bandages have finally come off the bottle-green, twisting wedge of the Staten Island Ferry's new $201-million Whitehall Terminal. Ferry riders are already marching through the airy, swoop-ceilinged hall as if the place had been there all along.

Most destination-driven commuters fine-tune their trajectories to spend the minimum number of seconds waiting.

The architect Frederic Schwartz has helped lubricate their way from water to work and back. When I met him in the terminal recently, he had just emerged from the subway directly into the hall, through a passageway that had been open for a matter of hours. He was breathless with the thrill.

The view: worth the wait

But he has also provided for those who miss their boats, or who prefer more leisurely rhythms.

The panorama of lower Manhattan from the top of the escalators, the vast windows framing the Statue of Liberty, the upstairs deck with views of the harbor - these are reasons to take shelter here for a little longer than the ferry schedule makes strictly necessary. The transit hub has become a destination.

Time has shaped this building, in much the way it does a canyon, by wearing it down.

A fire gutted the Staten Island Ferry's Whitehall Terminal in 1991, and the process of replacing it spun off into an epic of dithering, debate, redesigns and logistical hurdles.

Schwartz joined Robert Venturi and Denise Scott Brown, legends of playful architecture, to form a team that won the competition to design a replacement.

Their first proposal featured a harbor-facing clock so enormous that the barrel-vaulted hall below it seemed like a minor ornament. The clock became the architectural debate du jour, until the idea was bludgeoned to death by a posse led by Staten Island borough president Guy Molinari.

As the years dragged on and the budget withered, the design team tried to salvage the chance for extravagant statements. Instead of the clock, they turned the waterfront facade into a giant flag-shaped video screen festooned with digital stars and stripes and messages.

Molinari knocked that one down, too, and ordered a plain vanilla glass facade instead. Venturi and Scott Brown pulled out in disgust, leaving Schwartz in charge.

Compromise as creativity

The friction of bureaucracy rubbing on bold plans for many years often yields an architecture of eroded ideas.

Certainly, the final design here splits the difference between postmodern flamboyance and Molinari minimalism. The facade that greets the ferries is no longer glass, but corrugated steel, trimmed with bright orange canopies and LED signs.

That side flaunts some of the latest "green" gizmos, notably a rooftop crest of photovoltaic panels that supply 3 percent of the building's energy at a cost substantially higher than simply buying it from ConEd. The look is sleek, postindustrial and discreet.

If by drumming out Venturi and Scott Brown New York City blew an opportunity for architectural bravado, in exchange it got a building that ties together a thorny patch of land, without screaming for attention or confronting sleepy riders every morning with overeager cuteness.

The new terminal is an elegant go-between, which is a far more difficult thing to design than a lone, heroic structure.

Just finding places to sink the supports required a contortionist's dexterity. All around and beneath is a ganglion of transit.

The FDR Drive slices below. Out front, congregating buses used to hit rushing pedestrians on a regular basis, until Schwartz and his design team imposed some rationality on the traffic patterns.

Threaded through the foundations is a fragile subway turnaround that the architects were prohibited from shaking with so much as the murmur of a drill.

And every day comes the wave and ebb of Staten Islanders, making 65,000 trips. Putting the ferry out of commission, even for an afternoon, was never an option, even if keeping it open was a Herculean struggle.

The uses of enchantment

Schwartz used this gnarled mass of givens as a source of ideas.

He gave his glass curtain wall the same greenish tint as the copper roof on the gorgeously restored Battery-Maritime Building next door.

He placed large window panes between the waiting room and the slips, so passengers could watch the boats approach and dock (the marine equivalent to leaning over a subway platform to scan for approaching trains).

He tilted the roof so the terminal looks like it's rising from the water toward the skyscraping colossi across the street.

Thanks to deft engineering, the city's dense and delicate nervous system is hidden by the terminal's quietly kinetic design.

The high, glossy facade and softly glowing neon sign turn hospitably toward Whitehall Street, which pokes into the plaza at an oblique angle.

The view simulates symmetry, and the canopies that will stretch out on either side will strengthen that feeling of equipoise.

But symmetry is an illusion. The building turns and dips as it meets the ferry slips and their century-old machines. It's a comma at the tip of Manhattan, its tail jutting into the water to eke out every last little patch of liquid real estate.

Recollections of Rome?

In wringing simplicity out of this packed site, Schwartz kept in mind the way Renaissance and Baroque architects in Rome wrestled with its tangled geography: by setting a new facade askew to the axis of an existing church, by balancing an old tower with a new one, or by interpreting the curve of an alley as a sensuously expressive wall.

From these predecessors, he learned how to make a corner of a city look more rational than it is.

He considered the southern tip of Manhattan as an ancient place shaped not by planners but by the happenstance of history.

When the landscaping is complete, the Roman homage will be clearer: Peter Minuit Plaza will embrace harried commuters in its sheltering arms, in rough, thoroughly secular imitation of St. Peter's Square welcoming pilgrims.

The reference may be a little grand for a ferry terminal, but, after all that Staten Islanders have suffered in their commutes, they could use a little shot of grandeur.

Copyright 2005 Newsday Inc.

April 17th, 2005, 05:34 PM
Despite official ceremonies, the ferry terminal is not complete, just all closed-in. The side facing South St is boarded up, the public deck is not finished, as is the trimwork. And right now, it's the N ISLAND FERRY.

May 6th, 2005, 01:25 AM
Two boats - Staten Island Ferry (http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry.htm).

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May 21st, 2005, 09:25 PM
Staten Island Ferry (http://www.wirednewyork.com/waterfront/ferries/si_ferry.htm) in New York Harbor.

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August 29th, 2005, 08:54 PM
Aug 29th, 2005

The wraparound terrace at the SI Ferry Terminal. Northern side is stll closed off.

This could be a great public space.

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August 30th, 2005, 02:36 PM
Wow, you're right. I didn't know you could go up there.

August 30th, 2005, 09:32 PM
Are there plans to do anything with it Zip, or just leave as it is?

August 31st, 2005, 08:20 AM
I'm not aware of any plans, but I can't believe the city would let this space go to waste with just a few benches. The views are nice, and will get better once the subway is completed and the plaza restored. The Coast Guard is vacating the building in the last photo, and Battery Park will be extended up to the ferry terminal.

Retail is starting to open inside the terminal (there's a news stand). All that is needed outside is a food kiosk, with tables and chairs - something like the setup at the Municipal Building plaza.

September 1st, 2005, 03:13 AM
I wonder if the city has ever thought of building an underwater subway, like the one in San Francisco.

September 1st, 2005, 08:15 AM
Although none are as long (3-4miles) as BART, New York has 14 underwater subway tunnels. The total does not include commuter rail tunnels.

September 28th, 2005, 02:30 AM
BTW, has anyone been by the new Staten Island Ferry (Whitehall) Terminal lately? I drove by it late last night, and it looks fantastic, particularly the giant neon sign, which lights up the night sky. I really love it. Sorry I don't have any pictures.

September 28th, 2005, 09:47 AM
It looks fantastic ... and once they finish up work on the extension of the subway station and are able to re-build Peter Minuit Plaza in front of the Ferry Station and reclaim / renovate the area being vacated by the Coast Guard then the whole area will be vastly improved.

More info here: http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/capconstr/sft/documents/Chapters/5.15%20Aesthetic%20Resources%20_final%205_04_.pdf

September 28th, 2005, 10:12 AM
I took this photo about 3 weeks ago. The ferry terminal overhang will extend out on both sides of the plaza to the subway entrances.

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September 28th, 2005, 05:50 PM
September 9, 2005:


November 15th, 2006, 01:33 PM
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Better than a fare

Wednesday, November 15, 2006

Councilman James Oddo is nothing if not persistent. When there's something he thinks needs fixing and he sees a way to do that through city government, he'll go after the issue hammer and tong and won't quit until it's resolved.

His persistence on the issue of overdevelopment paid off big time. It was his impassioned letter to Mayor Michael Bloomberg, after years of banging his head against the wall of city bureaucracy, that served as the catalyst for the creation of the mayor's Staten Island Growth Management Task Force. The task force's recommendations, with the full backing of the mayor, were quickly enacted into law, resulting in significant zoning reforms regulating new housing.

Similarly, his relentless assaults on the Department of Buildings have helped force that once-unresponsive city agency to budge and finally pay attention to a lot of the regulatory issues here that, for decades, went unnoticed.

Mr. Oddo's sensible campaign against the use of metal bats in youth baseball programs, once perceived as a kind of loopy one-man crusade, has finally gotten traction in the City Council, which may soon pass a limited ban. It's also made him a spokesman on the issue nationwide. Mr. Oddo's refusal to let the issue go is one big reason for that breakthrough.

Earlier this month, the Mid-Island Republican began tilting again at another of his favorite windmills -- a fare on the Staten Island Ferry targeted to tourists.

Mr. Oddo has proposed on a number of occasions that, while the ferry ride must remain free for commuters, a $2 round-trip fare should be imposed on tourists who use the world-famous ferry with its world-class views.

Under his plan, regular ferry riders would be issued "smart cards" -- similar to Metro-Cards -- that would enable them to continue to ride free. Others who wanted to ride this fabled tourist attraction would be required to purchase their fare cards good for a single round trip from vending machines at the Whitehall Ferry Terminal.

The Councilman reasons that such limited fare collection could generate up to $10 million a year for the city. While that's not going to put the city permanently in the black, it could help stave off some of the most severe service cuts in periodic economic downturns.

Tourists spent $21 billion in the city in 2004, in large part by paying steeply for everything from hotel rooms to theater tickets. So they make up a "willing universe" of fare-payers, he says, because they arrive their big trip to New York with their pockets full of spending money.

"I'd rather raise money from people [who] don't live in New York who are willing to spend it," Mr. Oddo said earlier this year.

He reasons that modern fare-collection technology would allow the city to easily make the distinction between regular riders and one-time passengers.

Everyone who boarded a ferry would have to have a smart card. The regulars, including off-Island residents who use the ferry often, would already have their smart cards provided to them for free by virtue of their residency. Tourists, meanwhile, would have to purchase their one-day smart cards to get on the ferry.

"There is a commodity out there on the boat and in that harbor, and I don't think it's a bad idea to market those views and that experience," Mr. Oddo said in reviving the issue earlier this month.

"It's money waiting to be recouped by the city," he has said. "At the very least, let's talk about it."

More recently, he said, "I think it's not asking a whole lot of tourists. They relish that ride to the point they would reach into their pockets."

At Mr. Oddo's urging, the city's Independent Budget Office studied the feasibility of his proposal. Recently, IBO issued its finding that a tourist-only fare would be cost-effective and that costs of purchasing and installing the vending machines and turnstile gates would soon be made up by revenues generated from the limited ferry fares.

Despite this finding, however, there doesn't seem to be much enthusiasm for his proposal in the rest of city government.

"It's clear the city doesn't want to pursue this," Mr. Oddo said. History shows that rejection won't move him to give up on the idea, however.

Even some of Mr. Oddo's constituents aren't overwhelmingly supportive. A poll conducted through his newsletter showed 201 out of 446 respondents opposed the concept. Surprisingly, a number of those who answer the poll question said they thought the two-tier fare system would be unfair.

"If one guy pays, everybody pays," said one.

We have no particular problem with making tourists pay a modest price for a ride on the famous Staten Island Ferry. After all, as Mr. Oddo notes, it's one of the best rides anywhere in the world and it's on the must-see itinerary of hundreds of thousands of tourists who visit our city -- like taking the cable cars on a visit to San Francisco.

And we're fairly confident that modern fare-collection technology would allow the city to implement a differentiated fare structure, inevitable malfunctions aside. As happened with E-ZPass, however, there would inevitably be a transition period during which some riders wouldn't get around to filling out the requisite paperwork -- another imposition on hard-pressed commuters. And what about lost and stolen cards?

The bottom line is that we wonder about the ultimate cost-benefit ratio. Aside from the costs of hardware to dispense and read the fare cards, there's the cost of maintaining that hardware. Then, there are the breakdowns and costs of maintaining all that equipment to keep it functioning. Remember the ferry terminal escalator escapades?

Then, there has to be a new layer of administration to handle the fare-collection. And even if each tourist who took the ferry paid the $2 fare, it wouldn't even cover the overtime paid to ferry workers in an average year.

It seems like a lot of effort for an estimated $4 million to $10 million a year. Is it worth it?

As we've said before, rather than socking it to tourists, why not find a way coax them to get off the ferry at St. George and spend a little of that vacation money on Staten Island. The newly reinvigorated Staten Island Yankees play at the Richmond County Bank Ballpark at St. George right next to the terminal. Not far away is the Snug Harbor Cultural Center. Excellent restaurants abound within a reasonable radius of the ferry terminal. Someday, there may be a completed National Lighthouse Museum they could visit.

Yet the vast majority of tourists who take the ferry never leave the St. George terminal. They turn around and get another boat to Manhattan, the only "New York City" most of them will ever get to see. We've heard lots of people lament that phenomenon, but there's been precious little effort to prod those people off the boats and onto our shores. Why?

If Mr. Oddo would apply his creativity and tenacity to attacking that question, the city and Staten Island might be the beneficiaries of a lot more revenue than any tourist ferry fare would raise.

November 15th, 2006, 06:54 PM
They'd have to issue that free-ride "smart card" to every resident of NYC.

November 15th, 2006, 09:50 PM
...rather than socking it to tourists, why not find a way to coax them to get off the ferry at St. George and spend a little of that vacation money on Staten Island...Not far away is the Snug Harbor Cultural Center...
Snug Harbor's architecture is noble but its programs are strictly bush league. They would have to raise these to world class stature and run a shuttle bus.

November 16th, 2006, 08:30 AM
Snug Harbor's architecture is noble but its programs are strictly bush league. They would have to raise these to world class stature and run a shuttle bus.
Honestly, I live in SI, and there is nothing I have found worth doing around St. George. It could happen, but it would take a big effort. The ball stadium was a step in the right direction, but I just don't see anything else happening around there. *shrug*

November 17th, 2006, 01:14 PM
This has been useful, I've already used the service on Saturday. Now all they need is hour hour service past 7PM on Saturdays and Sundays, and earlier half hour service on Sunday mornings. It really sucks trying to come home late at night on the weekend and just barely missing the ferry. You get to sit in the terminal for an hour waiting for the next one. Of course you could always just walk outside into downtown because there is always so much to do around there in the middle of the night, haha!

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Metro Briefing | New York: Staten Island: More Weekend Ferries

Published: November 9, 2006

Managers of the Staten Island Ferry said yesterday that more frequent weekend service would begin on Saturday. The city's Transportation Department said it would add a total of 14 trips between Manhattan and Staten Island. Trips will be added between 6 a.m. and 7 p.m. on Saturdays and between 9 a.m. and 7 p.m. on Sundays, said Craig Chin, a spokesman for the Transportation Department.

November 17th, 2006, 01:19 PM
An idea I've heard is to slap "Staten Island Ferry" on a bunch of crap and sell it to the tourists on the boat and in the terminals. They could make a boatload of money! Probably a lot easier and more realistic than charging tourists to ride.

Of course they could always just sell beer on board. :D I swear sometimes when I get off I feel like I'm underwriting the whole damn thing myself!

February 20th, 2008, 05:31 AM
February 19, 2008, 5:16 pm

10-Ton Fish Tanks Will Greet Staten Island Ferry

By Sewell Chan (http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/author/schan/)

Children watched tropical fish swim in one of two giant fish tanks at the St. George ferry terminal on Staten Island. (Photo: Chester Higgins Jr./The New York Times)

Staten Islanders understandably have a special relationship with the ferry terminals that greet them each day on their commutes to and from work. How else can one explain the grand announcement today that New York City will spend $750,000 in capital funds to erect two eight-foot-tall saltwater tanks — each weighing more than 10 tons — to house 400 colorful fish at the St. George terminal?

The idea originated with the borough president, James P. Molinaro, who “was inspired by similar fish tanks” in a terminal at the Sarasota Bradenton International Airport in Florida. With support from Mayor Michael R.

Bloomberg, the city secured the money to build the fish tanks — along with a state-of-the-art filtration system that is being housed below the main waiting room at the St. George terminal. The city’s transportation commissioner, Janette Sadik-Khan, joined Mr. Molinaro, Mr. Bloomberg, other officials, schoolchildren, commuters and tourists for a ceremonial unveiling this morning of the fish tanks, which are so heavy that terminal floor had to be reinforced with steel beams before the tanks could be set in place.

The fish tanks generated no apparent problems or debate, in sharp contrast to a 1992 proposal by Venturi Scott Brown and Associates for an overhaul of the Whitehall terminal at the southern tip of Manhattan. That year, the Philadelphia-based architectural firm won a competition to erect a giant clock (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE3DA1430F934A35752C1A9649582 60) on the face of the Whitehall terminal, which had been damaged by fire in 1991. The giant clock quickly became an object of scorn and derision (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE3DC1630F93AA35752C1A9649582 60). Ideas for a digital version of the clock were similarly ridiculed.

The rebuilding of the Whitehall terminal, which was to have been completed by 1998, became hobbled by years of delay, outlasting two mayoral administrations. In 1997, the city’s Economic Development Corporation unveiled a simple, sleek glass design (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DEFDC1F38F933A15750C0A9619582 60). It wasn’t until February 2005 that the rebuilt terminal finally opened (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE7DD163AF93AA35751C0A9639C8B 63). The St. George terminal, on the north shore of Staten Island, also was rebuilt, in a separate, less controversial project that concluded in May 2005 (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/16/nyregion/16staten.html).

No mention of the clock episode was made this morning, the focus being fixed squarely on the fish.

“The tanks will exert a calming influence on harried commuters, and hopefully encourage tourists to visit the rest of the animals at our world-famous Staten Island Zoo and our other great attractions,” Mr. Molinaro said in a statement.

Mr. Bloomberg added: “These beautiful tanks are destined to become a great new attraction on Staten Island — giving New Yorkers and tourists another reason for visiting this beautiful ferry terminal. With attractions like the Staten Island Zoo, the Staten Island Museum, and the recently-renovated St. George Theater, Staten Island has long been a dynamic cultural destination and these fish tanks will serve to enhance that.”

The fish tanks will be maintained by the Staten Island Zoo; the Richmond County Savings Foundation is providing financial support. A video showing
how the fish tanks work can be found at Mr. Molinaro’s Web site (http://www.statenislandusa.com/).

Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company.

February 20th, 2008, 06:32 AM
Gives you a little something to do for a few minutes in Staten Island to justify the only sporadically exciting ferry trip.

February 20th, 2008, 06:54 AM
It may encourage tourists (like me) to stay awhile longer on Staten Island, rather than jump straight back on the same ferry boat.

March 5th, 2008, 06:43 AM
Mystery deaths in S.I. ferry fish tanks

Wednesday, March 5th 2008, 4:00 AM

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Crowd clusters around one of the two new saltwater fish tanks at the Staten Island ferry terminal.

There's something fishy going on at the Staten Island (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Staten+Island) ferry terminal.
Just two weeks after Mayor Bloomberg (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Michael+Bloomberg) unveiled two new $750,000 saltwater tanks holding 400 tropical fish, several of the creatures have been found dead.

"Three or four have passed, maybe more," a maintenance worker at the ferry hub said Tuesday. "Someone comes and takes them away."

The reasons for the deaths remain a mystery.

One ferry rider fears there could be a predator in the tank that's attacking the other fish.

But officials said a few deaths are to be expected until the new tanks' ecosystems are established.

"When you open a fish tank, there's a period when everything gets acclimated," said Staten Island Deputy Borough President Ed Burke. "We expect from time to time to lose a fish, the tank is under lots of care."

Ferry riders seemed undeterred by the deaths Tuesday and continued to marvel at the tanks, which were funded by the borough's capital fund and are maintained by staff at Staten Island Zoo (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Staten+Island+Zoo).

"So many fish in one tank, you wouldn't expect all of them to live. [It's] survival of the fittest," said Gregory Goffphine (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Gregory+Goffphine), 40, from Staten Island.

"I don't think it would bother me if I came here and saw one of the fish gone."

Copyright 2008 The Daily News.

July 12th, 2008, 09:56 PM
Where's the ferry going?

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July 13th, 2008, 12:12 AM
LOL...WTH? Why is it going up the Hudson? Perhaps to a dry dock for repairs? :rolleyes:

July 31st, 2008, 05:37 PM
S.I. Attempts to Get People Off the Boat and on a Bus

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During a one-hour loop, Patricia McGann offered Staten Island facts and trivia. Many people just come for the view of Manhattan.

Published: July 31, 2008

When the ferry docked at Staten Island, a wave of tourists funneled down the ramp and made a U-turn to board the same boat they had just gotten off.

Few seemed to have heard of anything worth sticking around for in New York City’s southernmost borough. Only a handful ventured over to the makeshift tourist kiosk at the ferry terminal.

“Yes, can you tell me where is Alcatraz?” one woman asked.

Andrew Yuen, 22, who was on duty at the kiosk, maintained a chipper demeanor in the face of such demoralizing questions. He cheerfully handed out maps and brochures, and directed a few people to the red faux trolley outside.

“There’s a tour bus that just opened three weeks ago,” he told one couple from England.

A man in a red vest picked up on Mr. Yuen’s cue and rushed to hand out a flier that begged, “Don’t hurry back on the ferry! New! Discover Staten Island Tour.” The salesman pointed to three small photos of unrecognizable tourist destinations and promised, “You’ll see this, this and this.”

The tour, Staten Island’s newest year-round attraction, is operated by Gray Line New York Sightseeing, which also runs bus tours of Manhattan and Brooklyn. In an hour, visitors get an overview of the island’s north shore. The $15 tour stops at places like the Snug Harbor Cultural Center; the house of Alice Austen, a pioneering photographer in the 19th century; and the Staten Island Zoo. Riders have the option of getting off at any of these places and catching the next trolley an hour later, but one tour guide said that most choose to stay in the bus.

“We’ll just wait to see the Bronx Zoo (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/b/bronx_zoo_wildlife_conservation_park/index.html?inline=nyt-org),” Karim Pacheco said.

Ms. Pacheco, 24, who is from Peru and studying English in Manhattan, brought two visitors from home — her mother and her mother’s friend — on the ferry. They happened upon the tourist kiosk and decided to take the tour.

“There’s an episode of ‘Sex and the City (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/sex_and_the_city/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier)’ where Carrie takes the ferry to Staten Island,” Ms. Pacheco said. “I thought, since Carrie did it, I should do it.”

The bus rumbled along Davis Avenue, through a residential neighborhood of Cape Cod houses, then turned into the business district, a strip of single-story nail salons and pharmacies and a McDonald’s.

“Does this feel like New York City?” the tour guide, Patricia McGann, asked.

“Noooooooo,” the five passengers responded.

What Staten Island may lack in breathtaking skyscrapers, it makes up for in historical tidbits, most of them involving celebrities. The tour drove by the cream-colored stucco building of the Mandolin Brothers guitar shop, which has been visited by the likes of Jimmy Buffett (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/jimmy_buffett/index.html?inline=nyt-per), George Harrison (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/h/george_harrison/index.html?inline=nyt-per) and Suzanne Vega (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/v/suzanne_vega/index.html?inline=nyt-per).

“Joni Mitchell (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/joni_mitchell/index.html?inline=nyt-per) wrote a song called ‘Song for Sharon’ that starts, ‘I went to Staten Island, Sharon, to buy myself a mandolin,’ ” Ms. McGann said into the microphone.

After passing Wagner College, where Joan Baez (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/joan_baez/index.html?inline=nyt-per)’s father taught, the bus merged onto the Staten Island Expressway. Later, Ms. McGann pointed out the Stapleton station of the Staten Island Railway.

“That’s where Madonna filmed her music (http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/music/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) video for ‘Papa Don’t Preach,’ ” she said.

The more striking points on the tour are its architectural highlights. The Staten Island 9/11 Memorial displays on two wing-shaped walls portraits of the nearly 270 Staten Islanders who died in the terrorist attack.

Visitors standing between the walls look directly at the spot where the towers once stood.

Zach Moore, 17, came to the island specifically to see the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge, which connects Staten Island and Brooklyn. The tour stops underneath it for eight minutes so passengers can get off the bus and take photos. “When we were at the Empire State Building (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/e/empire_state_building/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier), it was getting dark and we could see the green lights on the bridge,” Zach said.

“We said, ‘Oh, we should go see it.’ ”

The Staten Island Ferry is one of the most popular tourist attractions in New York City, drawing 1.5 million visitors every year, according to the borough president, James P. Molinaro (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/james_p_molinaro/index.html?inline=nyt-per).

Gray Line declined to say how many people had taken the tour so far, saying it often takes up to five years before a new tour catches on. But the company is optimistic that the numbers will grow as Staten Island — once reputed for its enormous Fresh Kills landfill, which has closed — earns some credibility in the tour books.

“It’s a huge market,” said Eva Lee, Gray Line’s tour guide manager. “And they should be educated that Staten Island is important.”

Though the borough does not support the tour financially, it has been investing resources in developing its tourism potential. With the help of foundation grants, Mr. Molinaro’s office recently printed brochures, installed a wide-screen high-definition television in the Manhattan ferry terminal advertising the island’s attractions, and plans to build a permanent tourist gazebo in the Staten Island terminal to replace the kiosk where Mr. Yuen, an intern in Mr. Molinaro’s office, was stationed.

Mr. Molinaro said he hoped that tourists who did take the tour would spend their money and spread the word about Staten Island’s parks, beaches (http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/beaches/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) and golf (http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/golf/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) courses.

“We’re no longer the home of the largest dump in the world,” he said.


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August 4th, 2008, 03:34 PM
I wonder if the city has ever thought of building an underwater subway, like the one in San Francisco.

Actually there was a plan to build a tunnel from Bay Ridge across the narrows. The 4th Avenue BMT would have linked in with the Staten Island Railroad. They apparently built some of the facilities on the Brooklyn side, but they were decimated when Robert Moses build the Verrazano Narrows Bridge. Some say that it was done intentionally.

August 4th, 2008, 10:48 PM

Jury Selected For Two S.I. Ferry Crash Cases


August 04, 2008

Almost five years after the Staten Island Ferry crash, juries were selected Monday in Brooklyn Federal Court for two lawsuits filed against the city.

Eleven people were killed and many more hurt and permanently disfigured when the Andrew J. Barberi crashed into a pier near the St. George Ferry Terminal in October 2003.

Separate juries were selected Monday to determine damages owed to John Healy's estate and to another victim, James McMillin, who was left paralyzed from the neck down. McMillin's attorney says his client will need care for the rest of his life.

"I think you can imagine what his pain and suffering is - not being able to do things for himself, not being able to dress himself and some unspeakable things that other people do for him," said McMillin's lawyer Evan Torgan.

The city has settled the majority of the 126 claims resulting from the deadly crash for just over $37 million. The highest payout so far has been $9 million. But attorneys for the Healy and McMillin families say the city has yet to come up with numbers to satisfy their clients.

"The City of New York can't come up with that number, so on that basis, this case must proceed to trial," said Anthony Bisignano, the attorney for the family of John Healy.

Kathy Healy, who lost her husband John, is now left to care for their four children alone.

"There's not a day that goes by where we don't think about him. Same thing with my children. It's been very tough," said Healy

The cases are expected to set a precedent for future payouts.

Earlier this year, a judge ruled the city could not limit liability in the case because it failed to enforce a rule requiring two pilots to be on board.

They City's Law Department would not comment on pending litigation, however, a spokeswoman did release a statement saying: "The ferry crash was a terrible tragedy and the city remembers the victims and their families."

Both court dates are set for August 25th.

August 25th, 2008, 02:40 PM

Updated 1:13 PM

Family Of Ferry Crash Victim Settles With City


The family of one the victims of the Staten Island Ferry crash announced today that it has settled its wrongful death claim against the city for $8.75 million.

John Healy was one of the 11 people killed in the crash of the Andrew J. Barberi in October 2003.

Healy left behind a wife and four children.

The case went before a mediator, after the family and city were unable to reach a settlement. Healy's attorney said they arrived at the final number after two days of talks.

Opening arguments began today in another case, that of James McMillan, who was left paralyzed from the neck down in the crash.

The city has already settled 126 claims for more than $37 million. A federal judge denied the city's request to cap its liability earlier this year.

NY1 has reached out to the city for comment on both cases.

September 10th, 2008, 10:34 AM

09/10/2008 08:35 AM

Jury Recommends That City Pay $22.9 To Ferry Crash Victim


A jury yesterday recommended the city pay out its biggest award yet to a man paralyzed in the Staten Island Ferry crash.

Jurors in Brooklyn Federal Court found the city should pay James McMillan $22.9 million for medical costs and pain and suffering.

The city Law Department says despite the severity of McMillan's the jury's award is excessive. The city hopes to have the award reduced by a judge.

Eleven people were killed when the Andrew J. Barberi crashed into a pier near the St. George Ferry Terminal in October of 2003.

October 14th, 2008, 11:23 PM

10/14/2008 08:56 PM

Victims Says He Is Still Haunted By S.I. Ferry Crash


Wednesday marks the fifth anniversary of the deadly Staten Island Ferry crash. While sweeping changes have been made to the boats, and millions of dollars have been paid in settlements in the years since, victims say the accident still seems like yesterday. NY1's Amanda Farinacci filed the following report.

Since the crash of the Andrew J. Barberi, Lloyd Joseph, 67, says there is not a day that goes by that he does not think of the accident. The former construction worker suffered serious injuries to his back and left leg, causing him to walk slowly and oftentimes with a cane.

"I have to thank my lucky stars that I got away with what I got away with, because the person who was next to me, he died, and the person who was sitting next to me died," said Joseph.

Joseph is one of 198 ferry riders who filed personal injury claims against the city; 132 have been settled for a total of more than $75 million.

The city was hoping to cap the damages to $14.4 million, based on an old maritime law that limited damages equal to the value of the vessel.

But in March, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled the city can be held fully liable for the deadly crash, because Assistant Captain Richard Smith was alone in the wheelhouse – in violation of regulations, which investigators said were seldom enforced – when he blacked out, leaving the ferry to ram into a concrete pier.

Investigators say Smith was suffering from extreme fatigue and was on painkillers.

"It is frustrating when you realize that this wasn't something like an act of God or something," said Joseph. "But to know that this could have been avoided if these people had been doing their job."

Joseph has taken the ferry since the crash. But he says he's still got vivid memories of the accident he believes will haunt him forever.

"Sometimes, you know, you get nightmare, and you think after all these years, you'll get it out of your head, but you still get a lot of nightmares though," he said.

Since the crash, the Department of Transportation has revamped its entire ferry system, improving technology and raising standards for its employees.

Joseph says he believes the new safety standards could have helped that day.

"They call the workers and tell them, 'prepare for docking,'" he said. "So, from way out there, they know, the ferry cuts its speed down, and all that sort of thing. But that never happened that day."

Joseph recently settled his suit with the city – for just over a million dollars. While he still needs morel surgery to his leg, he says he's happy to be alive, and working every day to put the crash behind him.

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October 10th, 2009, 01:45 PM
About 95% of the fish in the giant ferry fish tanks have died. Presumably because the intense sunlight that streams in through the many windows basically baked them. Now each tank has about 5 fish left. Seems like poor planning-- what a waste of money and fish.

October 10th, 2009, 04:18 PM
As a marine reef keeper
(voted best home reef tank in the NE for 6 months in a row by Manhattanreefs.com),
I assure you it has nothing to do with that sunlight-
and everything to do with the lack of proper maintenance.
With marine tanks, there is always a lengthy biological break in period,
and the first fish put into a new system are always at risk of dying-
they just put too much in too fast, and didn't properly keep up with it.:o

130 gal home reef

October 10th, 2009, 04:28 PM
That's better than television.

October 11th, 2009, 02:15 PM
scumonkey...wow...just beautiful. The commitment and knowledge it must take to maintain it... I've had several fresh water tanks in the past but what I've really always wanted was a marine tank.
You have so many kinds of coral! I love the way it's arranged with the hole in the middle creating a shaded area. Where do you keep it, in the living room?
Unfortunately the second 2 photos don't show up for me.

April 6th, 2011, 06:34 AM
LOL! That would have to be one of the more "unusual" items listed on eBay.

Former Marina Owner Jacques Guillet Can't Sell His Used Staten Island Ferry

NEW YORK — A man who bought a used 300-foot Staten Island Ferry to convert it into a waterborne dorm for New York college students is drowning in a bad case of buyer's remorse. Former marina owner Jacques Guillet bought the orange ferry for $162,000 at a closed-bid auction three years ago.

But he's failed to find an affordable parking spot along the area's waterfront for the 3,500-passenger boat, named the Gov. Herbert H. Lehman. The city wanted to charge him $1,000 a day.

Now he's paying $6,000 a month to dock it in Staten Island.

He tells The Wall Street Journal in Saturday editions that he's trying to sell the ferry. Any buyer would need to deal with complicated logistics, including the boat's size.

There were no bids when he advertised it on eBay.


September 23rd, 2014, 03:50 AM
New York City receives $191 in federal funds for new Staten Island Ferry vessels

by Henry Melcher

By 2019, two new Staten Island Ferry vessels should be crisscrossing the New York Harbor. Outside of the Whitehall Ferry Terminal this morning, United States Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx announced that New York City had been awarded a $191 million grant to design and construct these vessels that will be more agile and storm-resilient than what’s in the ferry’s current fleet. These funds will also allow the city to invest in resiliency measures at the ferry’s terminals and at surrounding public transit systems. This federal grant was just one component of the U.S. DOT’s latest round of Sandy-related funding, which provides over $3 billion for resiliency measures for the East Coast’s public transit systems. Roughly 90 percent of this money is allocated for projects in New York State and New Jersey.

“The projects we are funding aren’t exactly what you would call glamorous projects,” said Secretary Foxx at the announcement, “many of them will be invisible to many riders, but they will give this region a fighting chance to withstand the kind of punishment that mother nature can mete out.” To prevent the type of catastrophic flooding seen at the South Ferry subway station during Hurricane Sandy (http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/archives/tag/hurricane-sandy#), Foxx said street-level vents would be sealed and pump rooms would be flood-proofed.

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South Ferry station after Hurricane Sandy. (MTA)

As the city and state continue to rebuild after Sandy, though, there are difficult questions about whether areas that are especially vulnerable to rising sea levels should be rebuilt at all. When asked about that issue by AN, New York City Department of Transportation Commissioner Polly Trottenberg said the city would not stop building in threatened areas. “This region is home to 15 million people and clearly we are here to stay,” she said. “I think our job is to make wise decisions about where to make investments, but, certainly, I think you can see from where we are in Lower Manhattan, which is one of the financial capitals of the world, we’re going to be rebuilding, and we’re going to making it stronger than ever.”

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The People’s Climate March in New York City. (Flickr / can.international (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125892136@N07/))

Today’s press conference comes a day after roughly 400,000 people marched through the streets of Midtown, Manhattan in the People’s Climate March—the largest climate march in history.

Event organizers hope the massive showing will pressure global leaders to take action on climate change at the UN Climate summit this week. Ahead of that march, Mayor Bill de Blasio announced that New York City will attempt to cut its greenhouse gas emissions by 80 percent by 2050, based on 2005 figures (http://www.nyc.gov/html/builttolast/assets/downloads/pdf/OneCity.pdf). To achieve this very ambitious goal, the city said it will retrofit its 4,000 public buildings and incentivizing private building owners to increase energy efficiency. Specifically, the city pledged to invest in on-site, green power generators, install 100 megawatts of solar capacity on over 300 public schools, and to “implement leading edge performance standards for new construction that cost effectively achieve highly efficient buildings, looking to Passive House, carbon neutral, or ‘zero net energy” ‘strategies to inform the standards.”

Mayor de Blasio’s climate plan builds upon Mayor Bloomberg‘s, which set out to reduce the city’s greenhouse gas emissions by 30 percent by 2030.