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ASchwarz
January 14th, 2003, 06:23 AM
There are also two nearby Second Avenue development sites...

Bloomingdale's is finally getting the neighbors it deserves. Even as Vornado's glamorous tower for Bloomberg L.P. rises on the old Alexander's site across the street, new luxury condominiums are quietly in the works right across the avenue from the department store.

Shoppers have wondered what was up with demolition of the Coronet and Baronet cinemas, on the east side of Third Avenue between 59th and 60th streets. Now the Donald Zucker Co. has filed plans with the Buildings Department for a 26-story apartment tower.

The plans for 993-997 Third Ave. are so hush-hush that top residential brokers knew nothing about them. Although not yet approved by Buildings, they are unlikely to face serious difficulty.

According to department spokeswoman Ilyse Fink, Zucker plans a 289-foot structure with only 62 residential units, to be located between the Cinema I-III complex and the five-story deli building on the corner.

The ground and second floors will be used for retail, being marketed by Futterman's RKF Associates. The third floor will house a fitness center.

Zucker has hired architect Richard Dattner, whose contextually sensitive work includes the handsomely restored IRT subway station at Broadway and 72nd Street.

Zucker executives did not return calls. But a source said that luxury condos at 995 Third ought to fall in the $1,500-a-square-foot range - competitive with expected pricing of condos in the Vornado/Bloomberg tower, due for completion around the same time, in late 2004.

RKF's Scott Edlitz said retail asking rents at Zucker's tower will be $220 a square foot for 6,032 square feet at sidewalk level and $75 a foot for 7,340 feet on the second floor. An additional 12,200 feet are available in the basement.

billyblancoNYC
January 14th, 2003, 10:20 AM
Thank you ASchwartz. *I truly love to hear about development in NYC (as anyone on this board is, of course). *

It's nice to see so much devlopment - it's amazing. *NYC has more devlopment in a year than half the country (it seems). *It is exciting. *I just hope some more buildings (ie. the new offices in SoHo) utilize innovative architecture more, and not ugly brick messes. *Although, I'd take a new 50 plus storey brick mess than a 1 or 2 storey eyesore any day of the week!

mjb69
January 14th, 2003, 07:30 PM
What I want to know is what is to happen with the PAX Foods Deli on the corner. *The biulding that is in looks absolutely decrepit....and painted with an advertisement for an airline which hasn't existed for 2 decades (I believe the original National airlines).

Perhaps this building will be renovated as part of the development?


mjb69

Eugenius
January 15th, 2003, 10:52 AM
Quote: from mjb69 on 7:30 pm on Jan. 14, 2003
What I want to know is what is to happen with the PAX Foods Deli on the corner. *The biulding that is in looks absolutely decrepit....and painted with an advertisement for an airline which hasn't existed for 2 decades (I believe the original National airlines).

Perhaps this building will be renovated as part of the development?
mjb69I would guess that the building will not be renovated. *Unfortunately, the ugly little building looks like a "holdout," which means that it will forever mar the streetscape, as new buildings are built around it.

Edward
February 16th, 2003, 10:19 PM
289-foot luxury condominium tower will rise on Third Avenue between the Cinema I-III complex and the five-story Pax deli. 9 February 2003.

http://www.wirednewyork.com/real_estate/995third/995third_zucker_9feb03.jpg

Eugenius
February 18th, 2003, 10:25 AM
I am surprised they didn't acquire the deli and the nearby theater sites. *That could have added a number of floors to the proposed building. *I guess those guys were holdouts, or maybe they sold their air rights...

Agglomeration
February 18th, 2003, 04:51 PM
There's another brick tenement on the other corner in that picture. Who knows, if the owners of that tenement manage to preserve it and then sell the air rights to the rest of the site, maybe we can see good architectural contrast.

It's common practice for low-rise buildings to keep themselves in existence by selling air rights to adjacent construction sites to make the new buildings higher without demolishing the old. It happened with Carnegie Hall, it's happening with the area around Grand Central, and it's happening with the old theaters in Times Square.

pianoman11686
August 21st, 2005, 07:15 PM
This building is mentioned somewhere in the massive Manhattan Residential Development thread.

From Real Estate Weekly, May 5, 2004:

Sales are about to begin at 205 East 59th Street, a new 27-story luxury condominium that is rising on the Third Avenue site that once housed the Baronet and Coronet Theaters.

The project was designed by architect Richard Dattner and is the latest development by veteran builder Donald Zucker, Chairman of Manhattan Skyline Management Corporation, an arm of The Zucker Organization.

205 East 59th Street features 62 residences for sale and is scheduled for occupancy in the spring of 2005. "There is an art to the way that residents will be living in these residences, with their unique proportions, serene, loft-like expanses and unparalleled light," said Louise M. Sunshine, the exclusive sales and marketing agent for the property.

Nearly half of the units have soaring 20'-8" ceilings and solariums with full-height glass frame windows; all have balconies (some with two) offering stunning city views, and gas burning fireplaces operated by remote control. The 21 one-bedroom, 30 two-bedroom and 10 three-bedroom apartments range in size from 1,113 square feet to 1552 square feet and in price from $1,468,500 to $3,018,000. Details about the 2,706 square-foot penthouse will be given upon request.

205 East 59th Street's entry features a cascading water wall and a 24-hour concierge and doorman. Interiors are by D'Aquino Monaco, a team cited by both Metropolitan Home and House Beautiful as one of the America's top 100 designers.

Famed landscape architect Tom Balsley has designed a 5,795 square-foot fifth floor terrace retreat with a dog run, a landscaped garden for meditation, reading, and city viewing, a mini pantry kitchen for easy entertaining and a "state-of-the-art" fitness center which opens onto a mahogany deck for stretching and yoga.

The building itself is located at the nexus where Midtown meets the Upper East Side. Attractions in the neighborhood include premiere shopping destinations such as Barneys, Bergdorf's, Bloomingdale's, Christian Dior, Burberry, and Prada; restaurants including The Four Seasons, David Burke & Donatella, JoJo's, Town and Serendipity; and for culture, MoMA, the American Folk Art Museum, the Museum of Radio & Television, Carnegie Hall, and numerous art galleries (including The Fuller Building, which houses an art-filled Frank Stella-laden 205 East 59th Street model residence and sales office called The Art of Living Gallery) are but steps away.

"With the combination of gracious and airy apartments set in an exciting neighborhood, we believe the appeal of these units will be to empty-nesters, out-of-towners looking for a pied-a-terre and to young families," said Laurie Zucker, Vice Chairman of Manhattan Skyline Management. "We're also expecting a lot of interest from designers and decorators looking to live close to the many design resources which are in the immediate vicinity.

COPYRIGHT 2004 Hagedorn Publication
COPYRIGHT 2004 Gale Group

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This building is wrapped up. Picture taken 8/1/05:

http://images.snapfish.com/3447897523232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2323%3D%3B44%3D763%3D3 232%3B44672%3B3%3Anu0mrj

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Interior images from http://lincolncenterrealty.com:

http://lincolncenterrealty.com/images/big/205E59.jpg

Fabrizio
November 7th, 2005, 03:42 AM
Barf. What a missed opportunity. We get brick and balconies. A sophisticated sheer-glass match for the Bloomberg would´ve been nice here. It´s wonderful to see the historic tenement at the corner saved. Restored it will be charming. Imagine if they had kept the other tenement, at the other corner, and filled between the two with a steet wall done in a modern style, matching their height ....acting as a base for the tower rising above them.

This is just so....banal.

Derek2k3
November 7th, 2005, 09:26 PM
205 East 59th Street
993-999 Third Avenue
26 stories 289/290 feet
Richard Dattner & Partners Architects
Dev-Donald Zucker Co.
Residential Condominium (25,562 sq. ft. of Commercial Retail)
62 units 125,834 Sq. Ft.
Completed September 2003-Early 2005

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/51952932.jpg
http://www.205e59.com

Richard Dattner & Partners Architects
205 East 59th Street
New York , New York

http://www.dattner.com/html/boards59street1.html

This 26-story residential tower rises above a commercial base fronting on Third Avenue. The slender tower accommodates three apartments per floor. On alternate floors, the apartments feature 22 ft-high living rooms with tall corner windows offering panoramic views of the Manhattan skyline. Delicate perforated steel balcony railings and sun-screens contrast with the vibrant colored precast, brick-faced panels.



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http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/51952934.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/51952936.jpg

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http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=935+Pacific+Street,+Brooklyn,+NY

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=202795

http://www.dattner.com/html/press042404.html
Going up at 205 East 59th Street A 27-Floor, Dog-Friendly Condo
by Rosalie A. Radomsky
New York Times, April 24, 2004

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/28/realestate/28cov.html?ex=1102482000&en=4c215924c85b5812&ei=5070&pagewanted=all
In New Buildings, Buying Into Cool
By JOSH BARBANEL
Published: November 28, 2004

http://www.sunshinegroup.com/
Sunshine Group
205 East 59th

http://www.cityrealty.com/condos/profile.cr?bid=29721
City Realty
205 East 59th Street

http://www.rkf.com/exclusive_listings/999third.asp

http://lincolncenterrealty.com/205_E_59.htm

http://www.corcoran.com/property/listing.aspx?Region=NYC&ListingID=832624

LeCom
November 7th, 2005, 10:03 PM
Hehehe I actually sold a photo of this little shit

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2005/05/359170.jpg

Stern
November 7th, 2005, 10:39 PM
It could be worse....that shouldn't be an excuse, but there is worse.

What I don't understand about this building is its interior layout, you can see what I'm talking about in the pics. Those double height windows on the corners run the entire height of the building and each and every one is subdivided by a floor but the floor doesnt reach the window wall. This means A.) Every condo is two floors (probable) but unusal b.)Theres a gap of empty space seperating neighbors on different floors (I don't think so).

lofter1
November 7th, 2005, 11:08 PM
LMAO: Delicate perforated steel balcony railings

sfenn1117
November 7th, 2005, 11:57 PM
Those double height windows on the corners run the entire height of the building and each and every one is subdivided by a floor but the floor doesnt reach the window wall. This means A.) Every condo is two floors (probable) but unusal b.)Theres a gap of empty space seperating neighbors on different floors (I don't think so).

Are they staircases?

I agree, not terrible building, but not extraordinary.

Stern
November 8th, 2005, 12:05 AM
Are they staircases?

I agree, not terrible building, but not extraordinary.

I don't see staircases, besides I think the staircases are located in the core.

czsz
November 8th, 2005, 01:52 AM
Hmm...what's to be done with that corner building and its blocked out windows...?

Fabrizio
November 8th, 2005, 02:25 AM
This building looks like it would be at home in Caracas...especially next to it´s black balconied neighbor. We need some palm trees here. Although actually, a luxe building in Caracas would at least show better build quality. No one here finds this cheap looking? Ugh...those window casings....those balconies... Now look at the Bloomberg, and we´re back in NYC.

lofter1
November 8th, 2005, 10:05 AM
No one here finds this cheap looking? Ugh...those window casings....those balconies...

Agreed!!

And when is Bloomingdale's going to clean up its act (lower left):


http://images.snapfish.com/3447897523232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2323%3D%3B44%3D763%3D3 232%3B44672%3B3%3Anu0mrj

Fabrizio
November 8th, 2005, 10:28 AM
Bloomies is a disaster.... I could never figure out how they could get away with such a seedy looking building. But I´m telling you, that 3rd avenue side was a great piece of NYC. Those theatres and those kind of shabby buildings. Most here won´t remember that THIS was the hippest part of NYC in the late 60´s and early 70´s. Bloomingdales was IT. There was no one doing that kind of fresh modern retailing...so it was a BIG deal. There were no boutiques on Madison. The other dept stores were old... still very much stuck in the 1950´s. So you went to Bloomingdales. Fiorucci was nearby. And a ground breaking MOD place called Pandemonia. Martha´s was on Park and 59th...and a Men´s store I can´t remember the name but I was friends with their daughter. And you had "Sign of the Dove" which was the big pick-up joint. And you ate at Oscar´s Salt of the Sea right next to Bloomindale´s....with it´s name lit up in beautiful script...a creaky tenement... Barbra Striesand lived upstairs. A dear friend of mine took over the apartment when she married Eliot Gould. It´s the black Trump thing now, that you can see in one of the photos above.. Dems was the days.

lofter1
November 8th, 2005, 11:34 AM
^ Plus Yellowfingers ...

infoshare
November 8th, 2005, 11:59 AM
you had "Sign of the Dove" which was the big pick-up joint. And you ate at Oscarīs Salt of the Sea right next to Bloomindaleīs....with itīs name lit up in beautiful script...a creaky tenement... Barbra Striesand lived upstairs. A dear friend of mine took over the apartment when she married Eliot Gould. Itīs the black Trump thing now, that you can see in one of the photos above.. Dems was the days.

And the "Adams apple" - now that was a pick-up joint. A bit further uptown - but It had that "feel" that is gone now.

I think Eileens, still captures some of that 1970/80 atmosphere.

Fabrizio
November 8th, 2005, 12:53 PM
I forgot about Adams Apple and Yellowfingers. Let´s also thow in Serendipity...not quite a pick-up joint but it was soooo gay and ahead of it´s time.....still there.

I´m suddenly dying for a quiche and a spinach salad.

lofter1
November 8th, 2005, 02:09 PM
^ Frozen hot chocolate, anyone?