View Full Version : Times Square Plaza - 11 Times Square (42nd St & 8th Ave)
antinimby
June 8th, 2008, 10:26 PM
Even bigger tax breaks to who ever takes them down!
alonzo-ny
June 8th, 2008, 11:56 PM
Id do it with my bare hands.
scumonkey
June 10th, 2008, 10:34 AM
steve cuozzo -the post
...The Eighth Avenue whirlwind is breathtaking. On the East Side between 41st and 42nd streets, SJP's 40-story 11 Times Square is rising ahead of schedule, with steel having reached the eighth floor and the concrete core up to 18; curtain wall glass will begin to appear next month.
SJP chief Steven J. Pozycki expects to top the tower off by the end of the year and to complete the entire project by the end of 2009. He's confident of landing tenants and said, "There's a lot of activity right now."
Pozycki expressed relief that his building won't have exterior horizontal rods like those on the New York Times tower next door, where last week two people were arrested after having scaled the building. SJP has its marketing office for 11 Times Square in the building.
"It would scare the hell out of me to have guys climbing a ladder outside," he joked....
kliq6
June 10th, 2008, 11:03 AM
This badboy is flying!! This is great. That lot was such an eyesore very unsightly. This will make the area feel alot more dense and fully complete the canyon affect down 42nd st. Now lets set our sites on Duane Reade across the corner. ;)
In the next few months something will break on this site, I wish I could say what now but I cant.
Fabrizio
June 10th, 2008, 12:07 PM
Although you can't tell us what, you can tell us if you are enthusiastic about what you know.
(or if you think it'll be a let-down).
Well?
kliq6
June 10th, 2008, 12:25 PM
1.1 million sf tower with a possibly anchor tenant that is very solid as well as NY State assistance in bring the project into the TS redevelopment area, thus helping get it off the ground like they did when they added NY Times site.
pianoman11686
June 10th, 2008, 02:58 PM
That's great news. This intersection will be unrecognizable in 5 years.
I wonder what the address will be. 12TS?
antinimby
June 11th, 2008, 12:24 AM
kliq, how close is SJP to landing a major tenant for 11 TS? What about the retail portion? We need something exciting to anchor that corner.
kliq6
June 11th, 2008, 10:05 AM
They had a potential deal for close to half the tower but it seems to have broken down. However it can still be done. They are also talking about two smaller leases as well with a law firm and a financial firm ( non hedge fund)
Derek2k3
June 21st, 2008, 02:38 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/2597511375_7a2c53e8e4.jpg
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12 towers in this pic did not exist a decade ago and there are still 2 more to join.
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alonzo-ny
June 21st, 2008, 02:54 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/2597511375_7a2c53e8e4.jpg
My favourite kind of NY picture, foreground looks empty and deserted with skyscrapers towering nearby in the background.
philvia
June 21st, 2008, 07:36 PM
nice pics!
from those angles nyc looks like tokyo
ablarc
June 23rd, 2008, 08:43 AM
^ It's all that technoclutter. Looks like an oil refinery.
Have they put up blinds in the Times building? Thought the rods would obviate that.
lofter1
June 23rd, 2008, 11:11 AM
Supposedly the Times Tower has electronically controlled blinds which all work in unison with the movement of the sun.
antinimby
June 23rd, 2008, 02:20 PM
I'm sure there's probably a manual override so if someone thinks it's too bright or not bright enough, they can pull up or down the shades.
BrooklynRider
June 23rd, 2008, 02:29 PM
Supposedly the Times Tower has electronically controlled blinds which all work in unison with the movement of the sun.
We have those in my office. It keeps everything unified, but it's a bitch to look outside when you want to.
BradRousse
June 23rd, 2008, 03:41 PM
Reuters looks... off without the "REUTERS" on its side.
Any plans to replace it with the new name/logo since the consolidation?
kliq6
June 25th, 2008, 12:25 PM
This tower is rising nicely and Plaza is doing a great job. They may be able to move up a bit in the contracting world based on this performance if it keeps going.
lofter1
June 28th, 2008, 11:22 AM
This week ...
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_262.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_269.jpg
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http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_2711.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_2721.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_2718.jpg
11TS
philvia
June 28th, 2008, 02:12 PM
rising tall and fast!
i'm impressed :cool:
NYC4Life
June 28th, 2008, 02:39 PM
At last, the New Jersey Nets banner no longer hangs around the AMC thearter :)
Dirty
July 15th, 2008, 12:57 PM
I hear SJP is waiting to hear back from a 500k anchor tenant
within next 2 weeks---50/50 chance to land this deal I'm told
There is also a 190k tenant ready to sign (SJP holding off until above user's decision)
SJP internal personnel Construction and Management are overseeing Plaza pushing them and the subs. SJP is inspecting all the site work them selfs and with their own consultants and doing own bids against what Plaza has brought in (CHECK & BALANCE SYSTEM)
I also heard SJP is constantly bring new technology into the building design (weekly)
CBRE is handling the leasing; who will be handling the management, CBRE?
Looks like SJP has great product in NJ well taken care, top notch stuff. I would be disappointed if the building is mismanaged and becomes unsightly?
antinimby
July 15th, 2008, 04:52 PM
That's good news that they have potential tenants lined up.
I really want to see SJP do well here and get rewarded with success because they're putting a quality product out there with no Macklowe-esque type cheapskateness.
By the way, what rents are they asking for here? Is it comparable to the Times next door?
alonzo-ny
July 15th, 2008, 06:36 PM
I know the facade consultants on this project (also for beekman) they are high end and do a great job.
antinimby
August 8th, 2008, 02:10 PM
Starting to become visible from the ESB...
(click on pic to view LARGE version)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2281/2741576992_b78b30afa8.jpg?v=0 (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2281/2741576992_70fbdd21df_o.jpg)
pai.anil (http://flickr.com/photos/anil_pai/2741576992/)
antinimby
August 10th, 2008, 01:28 AM
Article from July but informative nevertheless...
Times Square Building Construction Ahead of Schedule
http://newyork.construction.com/images/2008/0807-SJP-Properties.jpg
Steel erection began at 11 Times
Square, the 1.1 million-sq-ft
commercial and retail tower in
Manhattan, and will use
approximately 7,000 tons of steel
within the 40-story building during
the construction period.
July 2008 (http://newyork.construction.com/news/redevnews/archive/2008/07.asp)
Steel is rising at 11 Times Square, the 1.1 million-sq-ft commercial and retail tower on the corner of 42nd Street and Eighth Avenue in Manhattan.
The project, which broke ground in June 2007, will use approximately 7,000 tons of structural steel. The 40-story building is expected to top out by the end of 2008.
11 Times Square will employ a concrete core which will allow for fewer columns on the office floors, making the space versatile for both office-intensive and open layouts. The building will have seven column-free corner offices on every floor.
Project architects FXFOWLE decided to use a concrete core because “It’s a tremendous safety benefit,” said Dan Kaplan, senior principal at FXFOLWE. “The concrete core gives 11 Times Square a robust enclosure for the building’s various critical elements, including stairways, elevators and critical utility risers.
Second, there are acoustic benefits to using concrete. The mechanical room on each floor will be fully enclosed within the concrete walls, shielding offices from vibrations and noise.”
The building in Times Square is also seeking LEED Gold Certification. Sustainable features will include a building management system to control and monitor mechanical systems and increased air filtration from higher elevations that will provide 30% more outdoor air than required by American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air-Conditioning Engineers standards.
Additionally, exterior sunshades or silk screened fritted glass will be utilized to reduce interior glare and improve thermal comfort. A storm water detention and filtration system will reduce site runoff and collected water will recharge the cooling tower. Low consumption plumbing fixtures will be used to reduce the building’s water usage by over 30%.
“Less than a handful of new buildings will come close to meeting the environmental standards that will be the foundation of 11 Times Square,” said Kaplan.
Developer SPJ Properties has not yet released information on possible tenants for the 53,000 sq ft of retail and 14,000 sq ft of commercial space.
The project is currently two months ahead of schedule and is expected to be turned over by late 2009.
© 2008 The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
ablarc
August 11th, 2008, 10:20 PM
Hope it conceals that stupid, ugly hotel.
lofter1
August 11th, 2008, 10:39 PM
There is separation between 11 TS & the Hilton , so the hotel's
west-facing checkerboard painted wall will remain visible ...
http://newyork.construction.com/images/2008/0807-SJP-Properties.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_2721.jpg
NYC4Life
August 12th, 2008, 03:16 PM
Can't wait to see this one topped out.
antinimby
August 14th, 2008, 05:05 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2761296503_ec365a341e_b.jpg
wyliepoon (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wyliepoon/2761296503/)
antinimby
August 14th, 2008, 10:55 PM
I believe the glass has already been put up on the second floor on the Eighth Ave side.
Skylimitone
August 14th, 2008, 11:31 PM
Figured that would happen soon
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/08/640510.jpg
antinimby
August 18th, 2008, 03:19 AM
Thanks for that update Sky.
The concrete core should top out late September or the beginning of October. Currently, it's in the low 30's.
The steel--which is currently around the 20th floor--I estimate will top out three months after that (late December, early January).
This has been a model construction project. In other words, the anti-One Bryant Park/Trump SoHo/TKTS. ;)
CoolCzech
August 18th, 2008, 06:15 PM
Figured that would happen soon
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/08/640510.jpg
Looks to be a pretty shade of blue for the facade...
Skylimitone
August 18th, 2008, 08:13 PM
Thanks for that update Sky.
This has been a model construction project. In other words, the anti-One Bryant Park/Trump SoHo/TKTS. ;)
My pleasure, how about the anti-Freedom Tower.
antinimby
August 18th, 2008, 11:23 PM
That, too (except now it's called WTC Tower One). :D
Sadly, there's too many projects in this city that could also be included. :(
lofter1
August 19th, 2008, 05:49 PM
Skylimitone http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif: You got the scoop on CURBED (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/08/19/construction_watch_11_times_square_gets_some_glass .php); from today ...
Construction Watch: 11 Times Square Gets Some Glass
http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_08_11TSFacade1a.JPG
Newly-installed glass creates a balcony overlooking 42nd and Eighth.
It seems like yesterday that we reported (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/04/10/steeling_times_square.php) steel had started to rise on
SJP Properties' 40-story 11 Times Square. Now, a mere four months
later, this midtown cornerpiece is getting some glass. Not much, but a
band of grey-ish glass has appeared on the big curve that swoops south
around the corner of 42nd and Eighth and which is dramatically drawn on the
11 TS website (http://eleventimessquare.com/). The facade is just one part of the plan to achieve LEED
Gold Certification: " ...exterior sunshades or silk screened fritted glass
will be utilized to reduce interior glare and improve thermal comfort."
Construction is two months ahead of schedule (http://newyork.construction.com/news/redevnews/archive/2008/07.asp). The concrete core
continues to rise and the tower, which will ultimately contain 7,000 tons
of structural steel, is scheduled to top out by the end of 2008. The
turn-over date is now set for a refreshingly optimistic "late 2009."
· Steeling Times Square (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/04/10/steeling_times_square.php) [Curbed]
· Eleven Times Square > Home (http://eleventimessquare.com/) [11 Times Square website]
· Industry News: Times Square Building Ahead of Schedule (http://newyork.construction.com/news/redevnews/archive/2008/07.asp) [NY Construction News]
http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_08_11TSFacade2.JPG
A rim of glass running above 42nd Street.
http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_08_11TSFacade4.JPG
A workman coordinates the installation of a facade support.
http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_08_11TSFacade5b.JPG
Steel has risen up to the 20th floor.
http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_08_11TSFacade6.JPG
A new subway entrance at the SE corner of 42nd and Eighth.
http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_08_11TSFacade7a.JPG
A crew on 41st Street puts together rebar for the concrete core.
http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_08_11TSFacade7b.JPG
Weaving together the rebar.
http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_08_11TSFacade7c.JPG
Woven blocks of rebar ready to be incorporated into the rising concrete core.
http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_08_11TSFacade7d.JPG
Rebar sections awaiting a crane to lift them to the top of the tower.
· Steeling Times Square (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/04/10/steeling_times_square.php) [Curbed]
· Eleven Times Square > Home (http://eleventimessquare.com/) [11 Times Square website]
· Industry News: TS Building Ahead of Schedule (http://newyork.construction.com/news/redevnews/archive/2008/07.asp) [NY Construction News]
sjp 11ts
NYC4Life
August 19th, 2008, 06:54 PM
This one is rising faster than anyone can keep up it seems. Great progress.
alonzo-ny
August 19th, 2008, 06:54 PM
This project is a great success story so far.
antinimby
August 19th, 2008, 07:02 PM
That glass is too reflective for my tastes. Too bad.
I had such high hopes for this project. :(
I don't get it, FoxFowle gave 4 TS (Condé Nast) good, quality clear glass on the base but here they go with reflective.
NYC4Life
August 19th, 2008, 07:07 PM
With all the glitter and lights on 42nd street, I think the reflective glass actually will work on this tower.
lofter1
August 19th, 2008, 07:15 PM
Right ^ plus a large part of the base & glass right above 42nd / Eighth will be covered with signage of one sort or another.
antinimby
August 19th, 2008, 07:31 PM
Clear glass always look better in any lighting condition than reflective wavy glass.
antinimby
August 19th, 2008, 07:40 PM
Clear...
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1357/1297258436_b814829ebb.jpg?v=0
4 Times Square
...versus reflective
http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_02_785Glass6a.JPG
785 Eighth
lofter1
August 19th, 2008, 08:03 PM
Samples of GLASS for this tower (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showpost.php?p=140082&postcount=514) that were erected on site back in January '07.
CoolCzech
August 20th, 2008, 09:35 PM
It looks as though the glass panels are either textured somehow, or have some sort of backing attached to them... is that to cut down on glare coming in from the outside?
lofter1
August 22nd, 2008, 02:14 AM
From Ninth ...
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_343.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_348.jpg
More glass ...
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_3415.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_3412.jpg
11ts
philvia
August 22nd, 2008, 02:24 AM
the glass looks good... not too reflective
ItstheBeat
August 22nd, 2008, 11:44 PM
From what I can see I feel the same way. Nice reflective blue glass. Not at all wavy like 785 8th Ave.
Dac150
August 23rd, 2008, 12:13 AM
This building will without a doubt help balance out the Westin. I think part of the problem regarding the Westin was that is was out of the loop so to speak as far as being in the Times Square district. Now that that district is vertically expanding, the architecture of the Westin will more so be apart of the norm for that area. The cladding of 11 Times Square shown as of now, to me, has already justified that.
BrooklynLove
August 23rd, 2008, 12:21 AM
My fine Times Square. How nicely you've matured over the years.
lofter1
August 23rd, 2008, 02:08 AM
More glass; up to the Fourth Floor now ...
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_354.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_352.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_355.jpg
11ts
antinimby
August 23rd, 2008, 03:05 AM
Well, that was fast.
CoolCzech
August 23rd, 2008, 10:56 AM
so far the cantilever effect of the tower is not nearly as pronounced as it appears on the renders...
NYC4Life
August 23rd, 2008, 02:13 PM
Tower rising so fast it needs a daily update.
alonzo-ny
August 23rd, 2008, 03:17 PM
Give it time it doesnt cantilever that much that it would be obvious, especially not from the angles taken in the previous pics.
Skylimitone
August 23rd, 2008, 07:56 PM
Yeah the cantilever is there, this is risiing so darn fast, unbelievable. 510 Madison was a bit quick too.
lofter1
August 23rd, 2008, 08:26 PM
Plus the lower levels of the cantilevered area are now somewhat obscured by the Patti & Sons tarps (the fireproofing crew).
LeCom
August 23rd, 2008, 09:11 PM
Taken last night
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9845/p104051911timessquareucov8.jpg
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scumonkey
August 24th, 2008, 10:07 PM
Sky Quills
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/skyQuills.jpg
NYC4Life
September 18th, 2008, 04:28 AM
September 16, 2008
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8805/11timessquareme2.jpg
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DRS9
September 18th, 2008, 11:00 AM
Thanks for the pictures; I was wondering how this building was doing.
antinimby
September 18th, 2008, 10:25 PM
Still no announcement on a tenant. I'm worried about this one.
scumonkey
September 18th, 2008, 10:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDyM4CfExXU&feature=related
Chrysler New Yorker
September 19th, 2008, 11:23 PM
Still no announcement on a tenant. I'm worried about this one.
Grade A office space in the middle of Manhattan in a globalized market,... won't be empty long even if they don't lease to one big tenant that occupies most of the space.
antinimby
September 20th, 2008, 12:04 AM
Are you oblivious to the economic situation we are in right now?
Skylimitone
September 20th, 2008, 12:15 AM
This city could end up with a lot of see-throughs and giant holes in the ground. I am very worried.
lofter1
September 20th, 2008, 02:39 AM
What did Paulsen say to the US Congress that "sucked all the oxygen out of the room" and, within 30 mionutes, turned everyone into a Socialist?
Chrysler New Yorker
September 20th, 2008, 02:44 AM
The only area hit hard in this mess is the financial sector. Of course the ripples will be felt elsewhere due to the spiderweb-like connection in the economy, but AIG might not need the government (taxpayers) $ afterall. AIG has over 1-Trillion in assets alone, they only have to harvest off their financial services division that put them in this conundrum with bad lending. BOA bought Merrill Lynch which creates the largest financial company on earth. In the end of capitalism there will be only a handfull of mega-companies that bought all the rest up. The tech, healthcare (World Product Center), consumer goods and small to medium size firms/businesses need space now more than anyone else, not to mention the international companies looking for a spot in Manhattan (Chinese in the Freedom Tower).
Chrysler New Yorker
September 20th, 2008, 02:51 AM
What did Paulsen say to the US Congress that "sucked all the oxygen out of the room" and, within 30 mionutes, turned everyone into a Socialist?
He basically said that greed from the financial companies that created this mortgage mess and credit crunch which is leaving hundreds of thousands of families out on the street have to pay the bill to bail them out.
lofter1
September 20th, 2008, 02:55 AM
Oh, no doubt he said a lot more than that.
A roomful of congressman are left speechless and sucking for air because some folks are losing their houses and are out on the street?
Get real.
Chrysler New Yorker
September 20th, 2008, 03:15 AM
We'll you got me there. I know deep down Washington dems nor rep care about families losing their homes.Maybe congress is mad because they have no say in the matter. Does it matter anyway, the democratic congress already declared they are not going to act or do anything before their boy Obama gets elected, which is why the have worse ratings/polls than W.
BrooklynRider
September 20th, 2008, 03:24 AM
Discuss the financial meltdown in the News & Politics forum.
Stay on topic.
Thank you.
_________________________
I haven't been by this site in a while. How high up is it?
buildingboom
September 21st, 2008, 03:49 PM
I pass by this site everyday going to and from port authority bus terminal. Seems to be one of the fastest and safest construction site in the city that I've seen. I really like the concept of core&shell. hopefully more buildings in the city will go this route (worked well for 7WTC as well)
BrooklynRider
September 21st, 2008, 05:59 PM
I'm guessing it had more to do with manufacture and delivery of steel as opposed to "methodology".
scumonkey
September 25th, 2008, 02:56 PM
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN00141.jpg
antinimby
September 26th, 2008, 05:32 AM
Can someone get that ugly McSam to move out of the way in that picture? Way out of the way, like Nebraska or something like that.
lofter1
September 30th, 2008, 12:51 AM
Shaping up ...
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_415.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4027.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4014.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4023.jpg
Some glass on West 41st ...
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4016.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4017.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4019.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4021.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_419.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_414.jpg
11 ts
antinimby
September 30th, 2008, 05:34 PM
I'm not too crazy about the glass so far. Reflective glass tend to lessen the classiness of a building.
Skylimitone
September 30th, 2008, 07:42 PM
Agreed, I'm a lil disappointed so far.
lofter1
September 30th, 2008, 09:36 PM
Most of the glass we see so far above Eighth / 42nd will be covered in signage of some sort. The glass will be the background to blinking lights, 3-D adverts and assorted other stuff.
Besids this is Times Square -- it's not supposed to be classy. Just crass-y :cool:
philvia
September 30th, 2008, 11:41 PM
yea the reflective glass is good for this area
NYC4Life
October 1st, 2008, 02:54 AM
Great photos Lofter. Not a real fan of the glass panels either, but for Times Square, the reflection of lights should make up for it.
NYC4Life
October 2nd, 2008, 08:16 AM
Stunning aerial shots of Midtown.
Photos By: Dan DC (http://flickr.com/photos/dandc/) - Flickr
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Daquan13
October 2nd, 2008, 04:43 PM
What is the structure that is u/c next to the NYT Tower?
lbjefferies
October 2nd, 2008, 04:50 PM
What is the structure that is u/c next to the NYT Tower?
You aren't the sharpest pair of scissors, are you?
NYC4Life
October 2nd, 2008, 06:34 PM
What is the structure that is u/c next to the NYT Tower?
You're on the right thread, look at previous posts. :confused:
Stern
October 2nd, 2008, 07:55 PM
You aren't the sharpest pair of scissors, are you?
lol!
Antares41
October 2nd, 2008, 09:13 PM
This bldg seem more and more risky by the day. Its a prime location, but, could be a while before they see near 100% occupancy, given the economic strom clouds on the horizon.
NYC4Life
October 2nd, 2008, 10:22 PM
Risky, but its location allows it to move foward. No major tenants yet, but hopefully the economy will stabilize enough by the time the tower is completed in a year.
buildingboom
October 2nd, 2008, 10:37 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/01/nyregion/01develop.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin
in the article is says there still aren't any tenants.
in other updates: i heard the concrete is all topped out (40 floors) and the steel is up to around 34 or 35.
antinimby
October 2nd, 2008, 11:08 PM
SJP should stop seeking one large corporate tenant. Under these economic conditions, that is no longer a likely option.
Instead, he should go the other route, which is to rent to multiple tenants that may only need smaller blocks of space. That means law firms, media companies, not-for-profits, entertainment, etc.
You get enough of them and you've got a tower filled up. Not all towers need to have one, large main corporate tenant to be successful.
lofter1
October 2nd, 2008, 11:56 PM
You aren't the sharpest pair of scissors, are you?
Even the trusty IGNORE feature doesn't spare me the pain ...
lofter1
October 4th, 2008, 01:14 AM
Yesterday and today ...
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4211.jpg
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11 ts plaza
londonlawyer
October 4th, 2008, 01:18 AM
Nice photos, Lofter.
I like how this building flares out at the top.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4211.jpg
lofter1
October 4th, 2008, 01:19 AM
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http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4311.jpg
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http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4323.jpg
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BrooklynRider
October 4th, 2008, 02:30 AM
This really seems to be developing into an example of a perfect design for the location. It's looking great an the angle is really amplified by the other buildings around it.
kz1000ps
October 4th, 2008, 02:10 PM
I'm liking what the pictures show so far. Some have had reservations about the reflectivity of the glass, but for me I'd say it's a non-issue. At the very least, it's nowhere near being in the same league of tackiness as the Astor Place tower.
Actually, I really like what I see in the first couple of close-up shots from Lofter's second set. The silvery tones and brise soleil will play very well with the buttoned-up New York Times tower while still having a lively energy of its own.
Stern
October 4th, 2008, 04:12 PM
I've always liked the premise of this building. I liked how it flared out while having a corporate subdued face anchoring it. I think its a perfect balance for the new Times Square. That said I feared with such a complicated design program reality might ruin such a premise, the materials would make or break the design. So far the materials look great. What wrong with a little reflective glass, this is Times Square after all.
TREPYE
October 4th, 2008, 09:31 PM
Stunning aerial shots of Midtown.
Photos By: Dan DC (http://flickr.com/photos/dandc/) - Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3265/2817696447_40b59c7caf_b.jpg
Looking great so far. I love the way it kinda subtly canvetiliers via a slant our onto the street a bit.
From the west side this tower is gonna have a very important function. It will block off our sight the hideous 7TS. Now we need a couple of nicer towers (which does not take much) from the east and south to bury that POS.
antinimby
October 13th, 2008, 04:43 PM
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2127/img0154td0.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3531/img0158in9.jpg
You know there's something interesting about this tower when even the tourists are pointing and gazing up at it.
"Look how tall it's getting..."
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/8121/img0164at7.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/8002/img0165le5.jpg
What they were admiring...
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7667/img0160oz5.jpg
NYC4Life
October 13th, 2008, 05:29 PM
Tourists will look up at anything, just to stop pedestrian traffic.
antinimby
October 16th, 2008, 12:00 PM
The concrete core should be topped out by now. They're putting up the steel for floors 33-34 so that means there are about 6 floors of steel construction left.
At a rate of about 1 floor per week, that means they will top out at the end of November/ beginning of December. They are on/ahead of schedule and with no accidents. Impressive.
This contractor is doing the best job in the city right now.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2050/img0246iz2.jpg
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/919/img0247ty8.jpg
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ZippyTheChimp
October 16th, 2008, 05:57 PM
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/1323/11timessq01cvr5.th.jpg (http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11timessq01cvr5.jpg) http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7649/11timessq02cke3.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11timessq02cke3.jpg) http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6693/11timessq03csa2.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11timessq03csa2.jpg)
NYC4Life
October 16th, 2008, 06:48 PM
Impressive indeed. Just earlier in the year, this site was a grass field. Now, it's all concrete and steel.
scumonkey
October 16th, 2008, 07:48 PM
^ actually, it was a paved parking lot...;)
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/lot-1.jpg
ablarc
October 20th, 2008, 11:42 AM
They are on/ahead of schedule and with no accidents. Impressive.
This contractor is doing the best job in the city right now.
Bet his subs are minding their P's and Q's, with the crappy economy threatening to put them in an unemployment line.
lofter1
October 20th, 2008, 12:30 PM
actually, it was a paved parking lot...;)
actually ... ;)
This hasn't been a paved parking lot for years. Back around '05 - '06 the site was fenced off and partially dug out in anticipation of development -- but then sat fallow for quite some time until they started digging out for this one in December '06.
Here's how it looked in November '06 ...
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scumonkey
October 20th, 2008, 01:02 PM
True dat but....that's still a far cry from a grass field ;)
lofter1
October 20th, 2008, 01:37 PM
Twue ... a weedy pit might be more applicable :cool:
NYC4Life
October 20th, 2008, 05:34 PM
That field should have been named "Times Square Park."
lofter1
October 21st, 2008, 08:37 PM
Action along 42nd Street ...
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4540.jpg
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lofter1
October 21st, 2008, 08:48 PM
More glass along W 41st ...
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_452.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_455.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_456.jpg
The crew was having trouble getting some panels installed on W 42nd ...
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4531.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4532.jpg
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http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4564.jpg
Later that afternoon it was apparent that their effort hadn't been successful ...
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/11%20TS%20Plaza/L111TS_4565.jpg
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brianac
October 22nd, 2008, 07:25 PM
11 Times Square's Concrete Core All Set
by Tom Acitelli (http://www.observer.com/node/36094)
October 22, 2008
SJP Properties announced Tuesday that the 600-foot-high core of its spec office tower at 11 Times Square had been topped out ahead of schedule. The tower, undertaken originally during much flusher economic times, is scheduled to be ready for tenants (whomever they may be) in 2010.
Full release below:
SJP Properties Announces Concrete Core Topping Out at 11 Times Square
First Building in New York to Have Concrete Core Built Prior to Steel Frame
NEW YORK, N.Y., (October 21, 2008) - SJP Properties has announced that the 600-foot high concrete core at 11 Times Square, the 1.1 million square foot commercial and retail tower that is the largest speculative development under construction in midtown Manhattan, is topped out and completed ahead of schedule. Eleven Times Square remains on schedule to be completed for tenant occupancy in 2010.
Construction of the concrete core began in November of 2007 and was completed on October 1st, keeping the project on track for completion by January 2010. The core serves as the lateral load-resisting frame of the structure and is being built ahead of the steel framing that it will adjoin. Eleven Times Square is the first building in New York with the concrete core to be completed before the steel frame. The 7,000 tons of structural steel that were delivered in early April are also rapidly rising on the site and the structure is completed on the north and south sides of the tower up to the 36th floor. It is expected that the steel will be topped out in early November.
"We are very pleased at how quickly and efficiently the concrete core at 11 Times Square has risen. The concrete core structure is one of the most defining features of this building, adding safety and security to the entire structure and providing tenants with numerous benefits that aren't readily observed," said SJP Chief Financial Officer David Welch. "Eleven Times Square's highly innovative design, logistics planning and world-class construction team has enabled us to offer the most modern, state-of-the-art building available in Midtown today. This entire development process, led by the rising of the concrete core, has been one of the most exciting construction projects we have built in our company's 25 year history."
The concrete core at 11 Times Square enhances the tower's efficiency by eliminating the need for a multitude of columns. The strength of the core allows for the construction of floors with fewer interior columns and, ultimately, floor plates that work well for both office-intensive and open layouts. All of the building's critical elements, including extra-wide stairways, elevators and utility risers are enclosed within the tower's concrete core, as is the building's command center.
Mechanical, electrical and telecommunications rooms for each floor are fully enclosed within the core walls, ensuring that noise or vibrations from machinery does not reach office tenants, and providing unparalleled levels of safety and a quiet interior environment.
"The concrete core provides a tremendous safety benefit to the building's tenants," said Dan Kaplan, senior principal with building architect FX FOWLE. "The robust enclosure protects the building's critical elements from any threats and offers enhanced rigidity for exiting the building via emergency staircases. The fully enclosed mechanical rooms also provide acoustic benefits to tenants, ensuring that they won't hear or feel the operations of the building's systems."
The tower offers stunning architectural features, including unique floor plates that expand as the building rises skyward and six tenant-exclusive useable terraces on the tower, clearly visible through the steel progress to-date. The tower will offer seven column-free corner offices on every floor with panoramic views of the Hudson River, Times Square and the Empire State Building. Tower floors will have a minimum of 9-foot, 6-inch finished ceilings, floor-to-ceiling unobstructed glass, state of the art vertical transportation technology and a high-performance energy efficient environment. The base floors are the largest under construction in Midtown, measuring 41,000 square feet each.
11 Times Square will incorporate the latest technologies in air intake monitoring and filtration, water collection and construction with materials sensitive to the environment. With these enhancements and many others, Eleven Times Square is seeking Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) Gold Certification from the U.S. Green Building Council, the nationally recognized benchmark for design, construction and operation of high-performance green buildings.
Located on Eighth Avenue and flanked by 41st and 42nd streets, 11 Times Square offers countless neighborhood retail, dining and lodging amenities and ideal access to several modes of transportation, including numerous bus lines and parking for commuters at the Port Authority Terminal, and immediate access to 12 subway lines with Grand Central Terminal and Pennsylvania Station just one subway stop away.
SJP Properties is one of the New York metropolitan area's leading developers of Class A office and luxury residential properties with over $2 billion in current New York City development. SJP Properties is also currently developing a New York luxury condominium project, The Platinum, a 42-story building near Times Square at Eighth Avenue and West 46th Street, which is over 70 percent sold.
SJP Properties
For more than 25 years, SJP Properties has been setting the benchmark for excellence in speculative, build-to-suit, investment and development services of Class-A office space in the New York metropolitan area serving major multinational and national tenants. Throughout its history, the company has developed in excess of 20 million square feet of Class "A", headquarters-quality office space and currently has an additional six million square feet in its development pipeline. SJP Properties is headquartered in Parsippany, New Jersey. For more information on SJP Properties, please call 973-299-9117 or visit
http://www.observer.com/2008/real-estate/11-times-squares-concrete-core-all-set
© 2008 Observer Media Group,
NYC4Life
October 22nd, 2008, 09:29 PM
Hmmmm, I thought this tower was scheduled for completion in late 2009? :rolleyes:
JSsocal
October 23rd, 2008, 12:04 AM
Hmmmm, I thought this tower was scheduled for completion in late 2009? :rolleyes:
Well, maybe they are making extra time so they can be "even more" ahead of schedule.:rolleyes:
DKNY617
October 24th, 2008, 05:43 PM
Just a few pictures I took after college today.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0978.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0979.jpg
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NYC4Life
October 24th, 2008, 06:12 PM
Just seen these over at Skyscraperpage, great photos and good progress with the tower.
BPC
October 24th, 2008, 06:33 PM
Walkd by it the other day. That curved glass exterior on the base is the very definition of ugly. Like some of the worst stuff built in the 70s. Can't imagine what they were thinking.
lofter1
October 24th, 2008, 07:20 PM
All that curved glass down low shall be covered in signage.
NYC4Life
October 24th, 2008, 07:36 PM
SJP Properties
http://www.sjpproperties.com/cms/Properties/image_retieval.php?iid=1039
antinimby
October 24th, 2008, 07:55 PM
Curved corners and curves are great. They provide much needed variety in this city.
We don't have enough of them here. We have far too many square corners.
econ_tim
October 25th, 2008, 02:14 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2969942843_3c460a4566_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3186/2970784854_7aa3a4c1da_b.jpg
lofter1
October 25th, 2008, 06:31 PM
It's great how the concrete core remains exposed on that "internal" NE corner.
antinimby
October 25th, 2008, 06:34 PM
It won't stay that way. It'll get covered up in what appears from some renderings, to be glass.
The budget for this project is around $1B so this ain't no 785.
meesalikeu
October 26th, 2008, 06:19 PM
i was up here today avec camera -- here ya go:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/meesalikeu2/ac5f0116.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/meesalikeu2/846f9270.jpg
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http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/meesalikeu2/85e54c47.jpg
it really, really....really does lean! :eek:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/meesalikeu2/3b20ca57.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/meesalikeu2/bcf24d8e.jpg
Stern
October 26th, 2008, 07:02 PM
The "lean" would damage the streetscape anywhere else. For Times Square, its perfect!
antinimby
October 26th, 2008, 08:16 PM
I don't see why the taper would "damage" other streetscapes outside of TS?
NYC4Life
October 26th, 2008, 08:28 PM
The Leaning Tower of Times Square.
Stern
October 26th, 2008, 08:49 PM
I don't see why the taper would "damage" other streetscapes outside of TS?
Fifth Avenue for instance.
NYC4Life
October 26th, 2008, 08:53 PM
The Wall Street area with its narrow streets.
antinimby
October 26th, 2008, 09:03 PM
None of those two examples qualifies. A tapering tower on Fifth Ave. will not necessarily do anymore or less damage than any other tower.
I still don't see how the tapering hurts the streetscape.
NYC4Life, do you even realize that the top does not go beyond the lot line, eventhough visually it might fool you into believing that it does? A regular tower that shoots straight up would extend just as far as the outermost of this tower.
So then, how would narrow DT streets be affected by the taper?
Stern
October 26th, 2008, 09:18 PM
A perfect example is Helmut Jahn's 425 Lexington Avenue with its flaring top. This building would be perfect for Times Square, however next to the Chrysler Building on formal Lexington Avenue it is kitsch and tacky and widely ridiculed.
http://www.hines.com/toolkit_images/Project%20Photos/425%20Lexington/425%20Lexington%20Signature_lres_web.jpg
antinimby
October 26th, 2008, 09:24 PM
So getting rid of that flared top (which would then make it a boring perfectly square box) would somehow make it more appropriate next to the Chrysler and to be on Lexington?
Nice try but I'm not buying that one.
Stern
October 26th, 2008, 09:29 PM
I wouldn't expect you to.
antinimby
October 26th, 2008, 09:35 PM
Yeah, that's because you know well that I'm not naïve. ;)
londonlawyer
October 27th, 2008, 12:58 PM
This building is awesome.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/meesalikeu2/3b20ca57.jpg
NYC4Life
October 27th, 2008, 04:46 PM
This one literally defines gravity.
londonlawyer
October 27th, 2008, 05:22 PM
As I recall, it will have a slanted roof too.
antinimby
October 27th, 2008, 07:21 PM
Can you believe only 3 more floors to go? It'll top out even before the end of November. Wow.
alonzo-ny
October 27th, 2008, 08:03 PM
Great project. Great job.
Skylimitone
October 27th, 2008, 08:10 PM
And no accidents so far.
buildingboom
October 27th, 2008, 08:20 PM
its not really a real slanted roof. the north west corner has a "roof" thats about 2 floors taller then the rest and it slants up from the other corners to the point. however it only goes back about 5 feet, so its kind of a raised L going along the north and west walls. its called a clerestory.
Dirty
November 4th, 2008, 10:59 AM
Topping out ceremony is Nov. 12
NYC4Life
November 4th, 2008, 05:04 PM
^^^ So damn fast, amazing.
antinimby
November 5th, 2008, 03:02 AM
Clearly there is very little left to go...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/3003067751_00117376dd_b.jpg
d-arch (http://flickr.com/photos/d-arch/3003067751/)
Hamilton
November 12th, 2008, 02:07 PM
I walked past this site this morning. Out on the 41st Street sidewalk there were executives in hard hats and a white steel beam on display with a small tree on top of it...meaning that 11 Times Square has officially topped out.
If I hadn't been in a rush I would've thanked the guys in the suits for not putting up a crappy, squat glass box.
DKNY617
November 14th, 2008, 01:22 AM
This building has so far been turning out great! Walked passed the site two weeks ago and was impressed. Can't wait to see some more of the glass creeping up the tower!
And it is nice that the New York Times Tower has some company!
JSsocal
November 14th, 2008, 01:49 AM
This building reminds me of a mullet, business in front, party in the back:D
Hamilton
November 14th, 2008, 03:55 PM
^^haha
Antares41
November 15th, 2008, 11:41 PM
Is this fantastic building still in search of a tenant?
NYC4Life
November 16th, 2008, 01:45 AM
^^^ No major tenants at the moment.
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