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lofter1
November 10th, 2006, 08:45 PM
Once that Whole Foods goes in at 101 Warren they'd better build a bridge across the West Side Hiway to serve the BPC folks ...

GreenwichBoy
November 19th, 2006, 01:09 PM
101 Warren

kz1000ps
November 22nd, 2006, 01:43 AM
11/20.. a bit redundant with what GreenwichBoy posted, but what the hay

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4606/dscf0073pe4.jpg

ZippyTheChimp
January 24th, 2007, 07:50 PM
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9205/101warren01c6nu.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=101warren01c6nu.jpg).

antinimby
January 24th, 2007, 08:07 PM
Any reason why they're doing the concrete-above-the-steel-base type of construction here?

GreenwichBoy
January 24th, 2007, 08:39 PM
http://www.rkf.com/images/FILESFORWEB_2005/270Greenwich_mainb.jpg

GreenwichBoy
January 24th, 2007, 08:43 PM
http://www.rkf.com/images/FILESFORWEB_2005/270Greenwich_plana.jpg

ZippyTheChimp
January 24th, 2007, 08:55 PM
Any reason why they're doing the concrete-above-the-steel-base type of construction here?Residential over retail.

macreator
January 24th, 2007, 09:05 PM
What's up with the diagonal parking on Greenwich?

ablarc
January 24th, 2007, 09:08 PM
This area is such a boring, ugly mess.

Truly a botch.

antinimby
January 24th, 2007, 10:06 PM
Residential over retail.Yeah but so do other all-concrete mixed-use projects. Still puzzled...:confused:

antinimby
January 24th, 2007, 10:12 PM
What's up with the diagonal parking on Greenwich?You mean this:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4606/dscf0073pe4.jpg

Beats me, although you do see it from time to time in some places in Manhattan.

Maybe it's because they can squeeze more cars in?

Feels a bit smalltown-ish to me.

ZippyTheChimp
January 24th, 2007, 10:25 PM
Yeah but so do other all-concrete mixed-use projects. Still puzzled...:confused:Don't know.

Maybe because the floors are triple height and the bays are wider than the upper floors, it's more cost effective to span the distance with steel.

I did notice that on the Greenwich side,some of the steel columns were later encased in concrete.

We'll have to wait for an engineer to come by.

ZippyTheChimp
January 24th, 2007, 10:31 PM
Maybe it's because they can squeeze more cars in?

Feels a bit smalltown-ish to me.The street was never narrowed. There's a plan to change it.

BPC
January 24th, 2007, 10:42 PM
This area is such a boring, ugly mess.

Truly a botch.

Perhaps, but for those of us in the hood, the addition of a B&N and Whole Foods will be a real boon.

ablarc
January 24th, 2007, 10:47 PM
^ Easy to believe.

ZippyTheChimp
January 24th, 2007, 10:50 PM
Don't mess with Whole Foods.

I'm getting close to committing a felony in Gristedes.

lofter1
January 24th, 2007, 10:59 PM
The St. John's building just to the south is an awkward little thing ...

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9205/101warren01c6nu.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=101warren01c6nu.jpg)

ZippyTheChimp
January 24th, 2007, 11:05 PM
It used to be The College of Insurance.

I wonder what they taught.

macreator
January 24th, 2007, 11:27 PM
It used to be The College of Insurance.

I wonder what they taught.

Do they have any air rights? I'm surprised they haven't sold the land to some developer for a bundle.

lofter1
January 24th, 2007, 11:52 PM
Re: St. Johns building

A few years back that thing looked huge in comparison to the surroundings to the north (open lots) -- now it seems to be a stubby little knot of cinderblocks + veneer :(

vikiked
January 30th, 2007, 02:57 PM
Does anyone know or think that a lot of investors, or people looking to flip or rent out their units are buying at 101 warren?

lofter1
February 11th, 2007, 10:49 AM
They have started to install the stone here along Warren Street (at the corner of Warren / Greenwich) ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101Warren_01b.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101Warren_01a.jpg

ZippyTheChimp
February 11th, 2007, 11:16 AM
Blank wall.

What's up with that?

lofter1
February 11th, 2007, 01:02 PM
It's very difficult to find a rendering of this building at street level.

Many images use the forest to disguise the base (cityrealty (http://www.cityrealty.com/new_developments/news.cr?noteid=10341)) :

http://www.cityrealty.com/graphics/uploads/1147728941_warren101b.gif

Or trees along the street to do the same (ccg-bpc.com (http://ccg-bpc.com/newdevelopment.html)) ...

http://ccg-bpc.com/newdevelopment/101S.jpg

The 101 Warren website (http://www.101warren.com/) shows that ^^^, but only as ONE fleeting image (here enlarged) ...

It shows that the base will be mostly glass at sidewalk level, and then large expanses of stone iinterspersed with glass above that ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101WarSC_01a.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101WarSC_01b.jpg

Above that the building steps back and the stone yields to a lot more glass (notice the rendering here doesn't show the lower part of the base) ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101WarSC_01c.jpg

Up higher it looks great:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101WarSC_01d.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101WarSC_01e.jpg

krulltime
February 11th, 2007, 01:23 PM
^ in that last pic, what view are they looking at? I can't figure it out where is it that they look out at. Like where that little boat is at there is that one bridge. huh?

Derek2k3
February 11th, 2007, 01:25 PM
I think Jersey, by the SOL. Here's some of the base.

sfenn1117
February 11th, 2007, 01:25 PM
A little better shot at the base.

http://www.rkf.com/listings/NEW/270GreenwichSt_main.asp

lofter1
February 11th, 2007, 01:49 PM
Thanks for those ^^^

Accordingly the "Barnes & Noble" sign would go up on this salb ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101Warren_01b.jpg

lofter1
February 11th, 2007, 01:53 PM
Does the grove of trees (shown at the far left on the upper part of the base along Greenwich Street) continue along that entire block front and thereby behind this glass facade shown below ?

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3554&d=1171218308

macreator
February 11th, 2007, 07:43 PM
I hope they actually plant all of those street trees that appear in the renderings. So many new buildings go up today that leave the street trees as an afterthought or even not at all.

Derek2k3
February 25th, 2007, 10:05 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/402890557_1cd06ffcd4.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/402890549_9728bfe3ca.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/402890554_2892012746.jpg

lofter1
February 26th, 2007, 08:57 AM
One has to wonder if either of the two shorter buildings in the last photo ^^^ will be around in 10 years.

stache
February 26th, 2007, 06:55 PM
I think the building on the right is part of Verizon.

mumbles
February 26th, 2007, 10:22 PM
I just noticed the alternating patterns of glass and (limestone?) create the shapes 101 in the square type lettering of their logo. pretty nice way to take the logo from the actual architecture!
:o

ablarc
February 26th, 2007, 10:54 PM
I just noticed the alternating patterns of glass and (limestone?) create the shapes 101 in the square type lettering of their logo. pretty nice way to take the logo from the actual architecture!
Subtle.

Shades of London's OXO Tower.

londonlawyer
February 26th, 2007, 11:08 PM
I didn't like the renderings of this building, but I do like the tower as I see the limestone rise. This may be one building that looks better in reality than it does in the renderings!

NoyokA
February 26th, 2007, 11:10 PM
It should look good next to its neighbor 200 chambers street, I'm not a big fan of the alternating facade but since both used quality materials it might turn out to be an interesting context and juxtaposition.

Derek2k3
February 27th, 2007, 10:32 AM
I don't like alternating facade patterns either, especially in stone.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/396488961_fd33dc6055.jpg
Stu_Jo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15937237@N00/)

lofter1
February 27th, 2007, 07:34 PM
Seems to me to be a very sensible way to break up the mass of what appears to be (from the corner of Warren / Greenwich) a full block base structure.

infoshare
March 13th, 2007, 09:19 PM
The new precast stone curtain wall blends well with the beige brick work of the nearby School Building.

lofter1
March 14th, 2007, 01:56 AM
Yes, it does -- the stone here is very nice.

Intersing that on the south side of 101 Warren where it abuts the property for the odd little St. John's building they're putting up what appears to be a fairly large blank wall -- seems they assume a big building will go up on the St. Johns lot at some point in the future ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101Warren_02e.jpg

infoshare
March 14th, 2007, 10:16 AM
In terms of aesthetics; the Architectural Design of 101 Warren is looking far better than 200 Chambers - but at this point it is wait-and-see. :p

TriHobo
April 2nd, 2007, 03:55 PM
Did anyone else see that the plywood forms for the next floor of the condo tower were on fire Friday night? My guess is someone dropped a cigarette that lit up the Form Release. It looked a lot worse than it was, but it definitely drew out the crowds.

pianoman11686
May 14th, 2007, 02:09 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/194/497469232_cbc626fea7_b.jpg

TrespassersWill's photostream (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atestofwill/)

ZippyTheChimp
May 14th, 2007, 06:02 PM
Well, now the St John's building on the right looks really ridiculous.

200 Chambers turned out well. Retail along West and Chambers. The property line on Chambers was pulled back, creating a wider sidewalk.

101 Warren stone is nice, but too many blank walls.

lofter1
May 14th, 2007, 06:45 PM
I agree that the St. John's Building looks silly now-a-days (and won't be surprised if it is sold and torn down for something bigger within 5 - 10 years). For my money 101 Warren is a far more successful building than 200 Chambers, which looks particularly imposing and un-neighborly (if not downright harsh) when viewed from the Washington Market Park ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/200Chambers_03a.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/200Chambers_03b.jpg

pianoman11686
May 14th, 2007, 06:59 PM
^Evokes memories of the pre-recladded Verizon Tower overlooking Bryant Park.

I still think Independence Plaza is the biggest eyesore within at least a 10-block radius of that park.

Tribeca Lover
June 4th, 2007, 12:04 AM
Dear Pianoman and Lofter 1,

I think 200 Chambers looks great. It's a lovely contrast against the greenery of Washington Market Park. The combination is unexpected in an expected way if that makes any sense. It looks great during the day (especially during spring and summer) and at night.

101 Warren does not look as good as their original rendering. I would like to see it completed but as of now, it is looking very contrived. And, what is up with the windows facing Greenwich Street? They are small and ugly. Again, I need to see the building in completed form.

BrooklynRider
June 4th, 2007, 09:37 AM
I disagree with all the assertions you made. It is also woth noting that 200 Chambers is on Chambers Street, whereas 101 Warren is surrounded on thress sides by much quieter side streets and doesn't have screaming kids of elementary the school playground on its edge.

BrooklynRider
June 4th, 2007, 09:41 AM
101 Warren does not look as good as their original rendering. I would like to see it completed but as of now, it is looking very contrived.

Calling it contrived is a rather nice compliment (if one knows the definition of the word.)

Are you a real estate broker or sales rep for 200 Chambers?

ZippyTheChimp
June 4th, 2007, 09:59 AM
101 Warren does not look as good as their original rendering. I would like to see it completed but as of now, it is looking very contrived. And, what is up with the windows facing Greenwich Street? They are small and ugly. Again, I need to see the building in completed form.I see these buildings every day, and while I don't think either are great, I like them both, mainly because they turned out better than the renderings.

Of the two however, 101 Warren is the bigger surprise. The facade is high quality, the glass much better than 100 Chambers, which to me looks cheap up close. And whats with those pop-out windows?

The windows on the low-rise buildings of 101 Warren are disappointing - looks like a 1960s high school.

lofter1
June 4th, 2007, 11:42 AM
The windows at 101 Warren on the upper floors as they now appear over Greenwich Street / Warren Street are a bit worrisome -- hoping that panels are to be installed that will break up the unrelenting dark appearance that now exists.

lofter1
June 4th, 2007, 11:47 AM
This rendering of the Greenwich Street facade doesn't give me much hope:

http://www.nychdc.com/images/Homepage_photo_2_17_new.jpg

Kace
June 4th, 2007, 02:31 PM
The dark window portion is part of the rental building along Greenwich Street, facing other apartment buildings on the east side of the street. It is not really a part of the building that will be visible as part of the "skyline" unless the viewer is standing within a block of the building on Greenwich. I am sure costs and other considerations came into play in determining not to make the facade look too fancy.

ZippyTheChimp
June 4th, 2007, 02:52 PM
From a streetscape perspective, it will be more visible than the tower on Warren and West.

It will face a wide sidewalk with retail, and set the character of the street.

Rental building or not, it's part of the entire complex, and one developer is making money from all of it. I can't think of any "considerations" besides cost.

Kace
June 4th, 2007, 03:01 PM
Other considerations I was thinking about was the fact that retailers would want better visibility into their stores from the street. I guess they still could have broken it up with the stone facades. It does look set back from the street and if they really plant trees, it should look fine.

ZippyTheChimp
June 10th, 2007, 06:07 PM
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5533/101warren03cfi1.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=101warren03cfi1.jpg)

Is this the look they're going for?
Leftover ductwork.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7625/101warren04czm0.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=101warren04czm0.jpg)

lofter1
June 10th, 2007, 06:34 PM
YIKES!!! :eek:

How could they go so wrong on this east facade?

(Perhaps they have a trick up their sleeves, but I'm not sensing it.)

Scraperfannyc
June 10th, 2007, 06:40 PM
Just call me Mr. 24/7. I live where I work and I work where I live. Do secretaries come with each apartment?

BrooklynRider
June 10th, 2007, 11:29 PM
Is this the "20" part of "80/20"?

finnman69
June 11th, 2007, 04:17 PM
I have not been by in a while, and I love the thick stone piers. the building has some ummph, some charachter, and it's not just skin. It makes 200 Chambers look really cheap and ugly , which, well, it is.

As 101 Warren goes up, the stone cladding will be really visually interesting. I think the alternating pattern is pretty strong especially coupled with the stone itself. The canted glass is interesting as well.

sfenn1117
June 11th, 2007, 04:30 PM
The stone work is very high quality and looks great, but this side of the building looks like something out of Europe in the 70s.

macreator
June 11th, 2007, 05:35 PM
Is this the "20" part of "80/20"?

My laugh out loud moment of the day. Thank you.

Tribeca Lover
June 12th, 2007, 11:35 PM
I have not been by in a while, and I love the thick stone piers. the building has some ummph, some charachter, and it's not just skin. It makes 200 Chambers look really cheap and ugly , which, well, it is.

As 101 Warren goes up, the stone cladding will be really visually interesting. I think the alternating pattern is pretty strong especially coupled with the stone itself. The canted glass is interesting as well.


well finnman, if i lived at 200 chambers i wouldn't have an outside view of the bldg once i was in it. my view would be of 101 warren on the north side so i say ugly or not, 200 chambers folks will have a better view according to you and it's going to suck for owners of northside apts at 101 warren.

ZippyTheChimp
June 13th, 2007, 12:33 PM
The stone work is very high quality and looks great, but this side of the building looks like something out of Europe in the 70s.Not only Greenwich St, but the Murray St side has the same window treatment, and where stone is used, it is on large expanses of blank wall.

BrooklynRider
June 13th, 2007, 02:35 PM
I would hate staring at 200 Chambers all day. It's like looking at the Death Star.

That gave me a hearty laugh.

kz1000ps
June 17th, 2007, 11:20 PM
6/16

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8435/img5125yl0.jpg

http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/9183/img5127pj0.jpg

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7258/img5130li7.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4310/img5138qu7.jpg

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9703/img5143cr1.jpg

londonlawyer
June 17th, 2007, 11:21 PM
This is one of the few buildings that looks better in person than it does in the renderings. The granite looks awesome!

sfenn1117
June 17th, 2007, 11:54 PM
^I agree. The tower portion is turning out impressive, though it isn't very welcoming on the ground floor.

tribecabound
June 18th, 2007, 06:02 PM
i think that the entire project is looking fantastic. the color of the limestone is beautiful. i like it much better than the 15 cpw limestone. when 15cpw started going up, i thought it was going to be one of the most spectacular in manhattan. now that it is almost done, i must say i am underwhelmed.
101 warren, though, continues to impress. it is going to be the premier building in manhattan, in my humble opinion. word is it is completely sold out.

kz1000ps
June 18th, 2007, 06:51 PM
it is going to be the premier building in manhattan, in my humble opinion.

cough-*bullshit*-cough!


Ahh, the throat's clear. Much better.

ZippyTheChimp
June 18th, 2007, 07:02 PM
I guess it's not quite sold out.

tribecabound
June 18th, 2007, 07:28 PM
so now that your throat is clear, care to share why you disagree?

tribecabound
June 18th, 2007, 07:35 PM
a very reliable source told me that it actually is. there are contracts out on all of the units. the four listed on corcoran are included...

kz1000ps
June 18th, 2007, 07:41 PM
are to share why you disagree?

Perhaps we have different definitions of what "premier" means, but to me premier stands for the very best, especially when preceded by "the". And I simply don't see this as being the best of the best of the best on an island brimming with superlatives. Sure it's got some nice cladding, and I'm sure those stainless steel appliances will look oh-so trendy, but more premier than 15 CPW? Trump World Tower? Any condo/co-op in the UES?

But hey, if that's your honest opinion then what can I say..

tribecabound
June 18th, 2007, 07:54 PM
i would venture to say that it is certainly comparable with 15 cpw in terms of quality, and no, i am not just referring to stainless steel appliances. minskoff is not exactly an amateur when it comes to real estate. as far as your comparisons to trump, i guess if you like the tacky, gilded thing, then that is your taste, not mine.
other than 995 5th, i can't even think of a condo or co-op on the ues that is comparable in terms of quality of building.

lofter1
June 18th, 2007, 08:22 PM
101 Warren -- Jura Limestone (http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=181728):

Jura Limestone

http://epod.usra.edu/archive/images/main_polish_jura.jpg (http://epod.usra.edu/archive/images/polish_jura.jpg)
Provided by:
Monika Jadwiga Okonska (moko@iel.wroc.pl)

The above photo was taken on October 31, 2003 in the upland area between Krakow and Czestochowa , Poland, commonly referred to the Jura region. The white, limestone rocks are made from the mineral calcite, which formed from the sedimentation of skeletons and shells of creatures that lived in seas covering most of Europe about 150 million years ago. The Jurassic Period (approximately 206 to 144 million years ago) gets its name from the Jura Region.

Jura is an amazing geographic region. Superb white peaks, waterfalls, springs, caves, beautiful woodland and even a desert. Yes, a desert in a middle of a Europe! In addition, in the Krakowsko-Czestochowska upland territory, a number of wildlife reservations can be found. One of the smallest, but one of most beautiful in Poland is the Ojcowski National Park.

Aside from its geography and geology, the Jura Krakowsko-Czestochowska is also an interesting historical region. On inaccessible rocky hills, ruins of stony, medieval fortresses can still be seen. These structures are strung along the hilly ridges extending westwards from Ojców towards Czestochowa. They're known as the Szlak Orlich Gniazd (Eagles' Nest Trail).


15 CPW -- Salem (Indiana) Limestone (http://www.curbed.com/archives/2007/02/09/loads_of_limestone_at_sterns_15_cpw.php):

Loads of Limestone at Stern's 15 CPW

Friday, February 9, 2007, by ROK88

http://www.curbed.com/2007_02_15cpw1.JPG


Everybody's going ga-ga (http://www.curbed.com/archives/2006/12/07/15_cpw_dominating_2006_like_a_hulking_leviathan.ph p) over architect Robert A. M. Stern's 15 Central Park West, the enormous residential condo from the brothers Zeckendorf going up just north of Columbus Circle. What is it that's driving the whole town crazy? It's simple: CaCO3. What's that spell? LIMESTONE! It's been years since anyone dared to sheathe this much steel with so many thick slabs of calcium carbonates. Why limestone? Stern explains it thusly: "Limestone is far more beautiful than any other stone ... it reflects the light beautifully and even on a gray day it seems to glow." Last month, James Gardner (http://www.nysun.com/article/46849) of the NYSun said it's more than the stone—it's the Stern:
What transforms this project from elegant pastiche into Architecture with a capital "A" is the sensitivity of the detailing around the windows and the entrances. Above all, Mr. Stern has applied a skillful sense of proportion and scale, not only between the two buildings in the project, but in the handling of the angular, pillared summit of the taller building, and the zigguratted terraces in the smaller building.Ahh, craftsmanship!


http://www.curbed.com/2007_02_15cpw2.JPG


Above, in all its bucolic glory, is an Indiana quarry very much like the one that gave us the limestone now going up at 15 Central Park West. How much limestone, you ask, would that be? Over 6,000 tons of Indiana rock. Seems like a lot, no? Well, consider this: Over three times as much were needed to build the Empire State Building. 207,000 cubic feet! 19 tons of buttery limestone were cut from the Indiana earth and shipped all the way to 34th Street and Fifth Avenue. When 40 Wall Street went up it was clad in limestone to a greater height than any other building in the world. Grand Central's outer walls incorporate 21,000 blocks of Bedford limestone, and atop the 42nd Street entrance the 60-foot wide statue of Minerva, Mercury and Hercules ("Transportation!") was cut from 1,500 tons of the same stone. But all those tons of limestone you see around NYC are just a drop in the bucket. Indiana is loaded with limestone. The whole saga is laid out in this handy article from The Journal of American History:
The hill country of southern Indiana is a long way from the cosmopolitan architectural centers such as Chicago, New York and Washington, D.C., but there is a crucial connection between those very different places. What, for example, do such notable edifices as the Tribune Tower, Flatiron Building, Grand Central Station, Empire State Building, Rockefeller Center, and the Washington National Cathedral, to name only a few, have to do with Lawrence and Monroe counties in Indiana? The answer is rooted in history, for 340 million years ago, during the Mississippian period, Salem limestone (now called Indiana limestone) was deposited in a shallow sea over what is now Indiana. Today just sixty feet below ground, this stone belt is approximately two miles wide and thirty miles long, and it is considered to be the richest source of architectural limestone in the United States.
340 million years ago! It was worth the wait, wouldn't you say? And take a look at how well it's been cut and shaped and formed by all those skilled workers. Everybody might not be able to call 15 CPW home, but we can all enjoy how great it's going to look.


http://www.curbed.com/2007_02_15cpw6.JPG

http://www.curbed.com/2007_02_15cpw5.JPG

http://www.curbed.com/2007_02_15cpw7.JPG

· The Soft Touch Of Robert Stern (http://www.nysun.com/article/46849) [NYSun]
· 15 CPW: Dominating 2006 Like a Hulking Leviathan [Curbed]

ZippyTheChimp
June 21st, 2007, 02:55 PM
http://www.italica.rai.it/cinema/film/buono_brutto_cattivo/buono_loc.jpg

The good
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6899/101warren05cvg5.th.jpg (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=101warren05cvg5.jpg)


The bad
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1946/101warren06czt2.th.jpg (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=101warren06czt2.jpg)


The ugly
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4263/101warren07cux0.th.jpg (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=101warren07cux0.jpg)

Fabrizio
June 21st, 2007, 03:08 PM
The creamy color of 15CPW says finer pedigree.

---

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKlxyoPNaFI

ZippyTheChimp
August 1st, 2007, 10:32 PM
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2987/101warren08com5.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=101warren08com5.jpg) http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2920/101warren09cxf9.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=101warren09cxf9.jpg) http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6433/101warren10csj3.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=101warren10csj3.jpg)

Tectonic
August 1st, 2007, 11:15 PM
This is going to be a very beautiful building.

londonlawyer
August 1st, 2007, 11:18 PM
This is going to be a very beautiful building.

I work nearby and see it regularly. Its facade is really, really nice. It's almost as smooth, buttery and enticing as Salma Hayek's thighs. It just want to lick it.

lorenzonyc
August 2nd, 2007, 06:50 AM
Without being able to speak to Selma's thighs, an aspect of this building I think is great is the double height penthouses with terraces on the top. Apparently two 'skyhomes' are still for sale in the $12M-$13M range

ablarc
August 2nd, 2007, 07:12 AM
These buildings seem piffling and inconsequential.

BrooklynRider
August 2nd, 2007, 09:11 AM
101 looks great. I think it actually looks better than the rendering (on the West Street side.)

NoyokA
August 2nd, 2007, 11:30 AM
This duo is looking sharp, its about time NYC gets some sleek looking residential towers.

krulltime
August 2nd, 2007, 11:47 AM
Yeah they both look wonderful. I am glad they weren't built on the Battery City land or else they would have been brick towers.

NoyokA
August 2nd, 2007, 12:03 PM
It just further goes to show how quality materials are key.

Peteynyc1
August 2nd, 2007, 01:23 PM
http://www.curbed.com/archives/2006_04_tollbros.jpg
The randomly placed walls between the windows reminds me slightly of the ugly Toll Brothers building on 2nd Ave. As you said above, what a difference material quality makes, along with texture and color choice within the same idea.

lulz
August 18th, 2007, 12:13 AM
has anyone recently visited the site with a camera? interested to see how far they get every so often. any idea when it'll finish?

lofter1
September 14th, 2007, 10:12 PM
Along Warren Street a couple of weeks ago ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101Warren_07a7.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101Warren_07a3.jpg

And again today ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101Warren_09f.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101Warren_09a.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101Warren_09c.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101Warren_09d.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/Tribeca/101Warren_09e.jpg

***

BrooklynRider
September 17th, 2007, 04:27 PM
From the Brooklyn Bridge...

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/BrooklynRiderRob/101WarrenfromtheBrooklynBrodge20070.jpg

tribecabound
September 18th, 2007, 06:51 PM
does anyone know when this will be ready? i read that the barnes and noble is opening in november. any idea about the whole foods. living down here now, i really can't wait for it to open and to have a great supermarket option. i think the apartments on the lower part of the building look great. especially the all glass fishbowl ones on top.

ZippyTheChimp
September 18th, 2007, 06:57 PM
It's simply yummy! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ7YedEopp4)

lofter1
September 18th, 2007, 07:05 PM
The other side along Murray Street (between 101 Warren & the St. John's building) has been covered in cheap-ish pre-cast sort-of-limestone colored sort-of-stone-ish panels, something that Stern wouldn't think of doing up at 15 CPW (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showpost.php?p=170999&postcount=322).

Bad :mad:

Front_Porch
September 18th, 2007, 07:29 PM
B&N ETA just after Thanksgiving '07, according to today's Post; I believe Whole Foods is Spring '08.

ali r.
{downtown broker}

antinimby
September 27th, 2007, 01:22 AM
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4515/img0077sd7.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0077sd7.jpg)

Derek2k3
October 9th, 2007, 11:44 PM
I think this building is disgusting. Talk about visual ghetto-box...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2122/1528755602_85898c34a2_o.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2241/1528755618_1cdd070507_o.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2025/1528755592_7725a48429_o.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2090/1528755620_cf3d73a2bf_o.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2031/1528755648_4eed22ed46_o.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/1527889017_567d0b29f0_o.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2031/1527889041_54b86db1b0_o.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2137/1527889065_93d954df2e_o.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2326/1527889091_414db85a8e_o.jpg

BrooklynRider
October 12th, 2007, 01:47 PM
I think the tower is great. Not sure what kind of spasm hit the developers on the base - especially the east facade. Were summer interns given a chance to play with the design?

Alonzo-ny
October 12th, 2007, 02:57 PM
that facade really doesnt work at that scale, works on bond street.

lofter1
October 12th, 2007, 05:03 PM
I like it -- the limestone glows in the sunlight.

And is far better than the iciness of 200 Chmbers next door.

Alonzo-ny
October 12th, 2007, 05:11 PM
Actually in the last photo i can see it working but there is just too much of it on every facade.

BrooklynRider
October 12th, 2007, 11:29 PM
Without exerting the energy to scroll back to it, I recall the rendering offering a more abstract use of the stone. It's my memory, not necessarily reality so it could be wrong.

TREPYE
October 13th, 2007, 12:37 AM
At least its not the repetitive and tiresome all glass that we get way too much of nowadays...


I think this building is disgusting. Talk about visual ghetto-box...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2031/1528755648_4eed22ed46_o.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/1527889017_567d0b29f0_o.jpg





http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2137/1527889065_93d954df2e_o.jpg

londonlawyer
October 13th, 2007, 01:09 AM
that facade really doesnt work at that scale, works on bond street.


Have you seen it in person? If not, I highly recommend it. It's really beautiful!

This building is not photogenic but looks GREAT in person.

Tectonic
October 13th, 2007, 07:51 AM
I totally agree, great unique design.

infoshare
October 13th, 2007, 11:04 AM
............ but looks GREAT in person.

I will not argue this statement, but I would say where 200 Chambers looks only good;101 Warren looks GREAT - I agree. :cool:
p.s. The full spectrum of my "LOOKS" rating (http://archrecord.construction.com/inTheCause/0502ChicagoTribune/ChicagoTribune.asp) is: mediocre, good, & great. So I guess you could say great is a rave review. LOL

londonlawyer
October 13th, 2007, 11:36 AM
I totally agree, great unique design.

To be honest, I don't think the design is anything special. It's basically a box, but the limestone is so lavish and the glass is really nice. This building has such an alluring exterior.

Alonzo-ny
October 13th, 2007, 01:26 PM
I gotta get down there and have a look, maybe tomorrow ill take a trip.

scumonkey
October 13th, 2007, 02:06 PM
Looks like a throwback to the 70's to me....

londonlawyer
October 13th, 2007, 05:25 PM
Looks like a throwback to the 70's to me....


No way. I urge everyone who hasn't seen it in person to do so. (And, as a bonus, the new GS tower is across the street.)

scumonkey
October 13th, 2007, 05:53 PM
No way
YES WAY....I pass by this building everyday....YUK! (IMHO)

Tectonic
October 17th, 2007, 10:26 AM
YES WAY....I pass by this building everyday....YUK! (IMHO)

It does have a sorta 70s feel to it but with a modern twist, I still like this building. Only thing I think GS will cast a shadow on it in the afternoon when that reaches full height.

Another look

10.14:

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/10/566343.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/10/566341.jpg

macreator
October 17th, 2007, 05:57 PM
This building is tough for me. I swing between loving its design and materials, to finding it as revolting as the Javits Federal Building not too far away. I think its the time of day that does it -- the sun really helps the facade.

Kace
October 17th, 2007, 06:17 PM
I think the building looks very nice and is a welcome change to the brick, steel and/or glass buildings that seems to be all the rage for new developments. There is a nice balance between the stone and the glass. The alternating window scheme also makes it very interesting, especially since it spells "101". It looks better from a distance. Up close, the alternating pattern seems busy and a little confusing. Still can't tell when they expect to be done.

infoshare
October 17th, 2007, 07:25 PM
I think its the time of day that does it -- the sun really helps the facade.

Your comment reminded me of the painting by Monet; Roun Cathedral (http://www.mcah.columbia.edu/monet/swf/).

Alonzo-ny
October 28th, 2007, 09:44 PM
Saw today and it looks GREAT, good call LL

tribecabound
October 29th, 2007, 03:26 PM
does anyone know when this building is supposed to be ready? friends who bought in the townhome section (lower part) were told december but i don't think there is any way that's going to happen. the rental part doesn't look ready for occupancy either, but the signs are up saying fall 2007. any updates you can share?

lofter1
October 29th, 2007, 06:36 PM
The past couple of weeks I've been seeing lots of folks (potential renters???) going in and out at the Greenwich end.

GreenwichBoy
October 29th, 2007, 08:02 PM
http://89murraytribeca.com/

dimadelux
October 30th, 2007, 04:22 PM
http://89murraytribeca.com/

Is that the other part of the building or its a completely different thing? :confused:

ZippyTheChimp
October 30th, 2007, 05:30 PM
89 Murray is rental, 101 Warren is condo.

While the tower looks much better than the renderings, and the materials are of good quality, the entire ensemble doesn't work very well.

Taken by itself, the Murray St side looks cheap. And they used a visibly lower quality stone on the almost blank wall facing west.

Overall, a positive, but not by much.

NYatKNIGHT
November 1st, 2007, 09:53 AM
It's all over the place, a seemingly random layout zig-zagging all over the block. Yes, the tower is excellent, thankfully.

tribecabound
November 1st, 2007, 10:50 AM
i agree that the tower/townhome part looks great. i wonder, though, if the townhomes with the covered terraces will be dark b/c of the limestone columns in front. it seems that the apts at the top of the townhome part will have open terraces. i think i would prefer those.
also interesting to note that the whole foods will actually be in the rental building, not the condo. i wonder if that was by design to not have a grocery store in the actual condo. from what i understand, the rental and condo are not connected at all.
has anyone heard what restaurant might be going in on the west street side? let's hope it's something good for the neighborhood! i heard rumblings of a chipotle going in at 200 chambers. i would think that 101 warren would go more high end than that no?

lofter1
November 1st, 2007, 11:07 AM
One saving grace for the less-than-attractive Greenwich side of 89 Warren is that there are numerous cut-outs allowing for trees to be planted in the very wide sidewalk / plaza there.

tribecabound
November 1st, 2007, 11:20 AM
it is clear that the developer/architects wanted to differentiate the rental part from the condo part with the use of materials. it's interesting though, that they did this along the very visible greenwich street as well. a similar situation, i think, occured uptown at 15cpw. the best buy along broadway, with the bright blue flourescent lights that don't seem to turn off ever, are not exactly old world elegance and look so ridiculous in that building.
i would be furious if i paid a gazillion $$ a sq ft and there was a blue haze thru my window, which the apts directly above the best buy will surely have. awful.

lofter1
November 1st, 2007, 11:53 AM
No doubt new inhabitants will have something to say about lights in retail spaces that never go off. From the looks of the Best Buy at 15 CPW there are contractual restrictions regarding the look of the store.

Over-lighting is becoming a problem throughout the city -- new retail wants to advertise their presence 24/7 and in so doing causes apillage of light out across neighboring buildings -- which can cause a conflict with quiet and peaceful habitation for those who live nearby. We have been successful in getting a large building across the street to cut back on illumination after 11PM -- it took some letter writing & phone calls, but ultimately the retail / building management made some changes.

tribecabound
November 1st, 2007, 12:00 PM
design restrictions or not, it's still a budget store to have in a building of that caliber.

MidtownGuy
November 1st, 2007, 01:11 PM
I hate those overbearing Chase signs all over town that wrap around the whole retail space with neon blue and the word Chase repeated a zillion times, lit around the clock. Ultra tacky. Too bad bright blue lights are no substitute for all of the restaurants, shops, and bars that we're losing to these neighborhood killers.

Tectonic
November 1st, 2007, 08:19 PM
Thats the point I assume, they want the Chase brand embedded in your head. Their old signs were so insignificant, its an annoying improvement.
By the way, "The right relationship is everything.":p

MidtownGuy
November 2nd, 2007, 03:20 PM
Their old signs were so insignificant, its an annoying improvement
:confused:
Did I not get enough brain nutrients this morning or are there some really quizzical responses on this forum today?

Tectonic
November 2nd, 2007, 03:29 PM
Let me rephrase, their old signs were quite insignificant so, I think the new ones correct that.

MidtownGuy
November 2nd, 2007, 03:40 PM
Oh, in concept it's sort of like compensating for a low-pressure faucet by introducing a tsunami. Or dumping a kilo of salt into your under-seasoned french fries. The point is, there must be a happy medium between not being able to see the sign and the sign dominating the whole intersection.

Tectonic
November 2nd, 2007, 07:21 PM
I see your point, works for marketing I guess. They just need to be seen and embedded in your head. I can't tell you how I know their slogan and many others.

dimadelux
November 10th, 2007, 10:19 PM
Any more updates on this project? Can anyone take more pictures please

Tectonic
November 12th, 2007, 07:30 PM
11/11/2007

I tried different angles this time:

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/11/571343.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/11/571362.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/11/571371.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/11/571373.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/11/571350.jpg

kz1000ps
November 13th, 2007, 02:20 AM
That last pic reminds me of my old dorm, the Ellicott Complex at SUNY Buffalo:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1117/1218749171_4d1372d0eb.jpg

taken by Hackintosh on Flickr

NewYorkDoc
November 13th, 2007, 02:24 AM
Wow! Check out that rare retail we get! I bet the tourists don't have those where they're from! :mad:

econ_tim
November 13th, 2007, 09:20 AM
Wow! Check out that rare retail we get! I bet the tourists don't have those where they're from! :mad:

BPC north residents are probably happy to get a bookstore so close to them

NewYorkDoc
November 13th, 2007, 07:16 PM
True. Just like everyone likes all the other Barnes and Nobles, Starbucks, and Chase banks all over the city. Chain stores are "all the rage" today.

Tectonic
November 13th, 2007, 09:16 PM
Look who's on the other side:

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/11/571636.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/11/571632.jpg

I LIKE THIS ANGLE.
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/11/571641.jpg

NewYorkDoc
November 13th, 2007, 09:33 PM
Wow...I didn't think it could get any worse...then it did.

lofter1
November 13th, 2007, 10:18 PM
But BB+B has those cool escalators for the shopping carts ;)

antinimby
November 13th, 2007, 11:13 PM
NYDoc, mom and pops weren't going to afford the rents here anyway. If anything, just be glad the large chains is setting shop here instead of some other place and displacing those small shops.

I'm also very happy to see some retail finally come to this part of West St. One can drive (or walk if you so prefer and actually that should be encouraged ;)) up West St. all the way to Washington Heights and find no retail at all. So glad that is beginning to change, at least in this spot.

Tectonic
November 14th, 2007, 06:16 AM
Why is 200 Chamber struggling to get retail? Is their space to small for say a Container Store or Crate and Barrel maybe? Both stores at 101 should do well I think.

econ_tim
November 14th, 2007, 09:34 AM
True. Just like everyone likes all the other Barnes and Nobles, Starbucks, and Chase banks all over the city. Chain stores are "all the rage" today.

apparently people do like them since they are always full of customers.

lofter1
November 14th, 2007, 10:51 AM
The retail space availabe at 200 Chambers is quite small (15K sf (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188807&postcount=383)) compared to the spaes at 101.

NewYorkDoc
November 14th, 2007, 11:38 AM
NYDoc, mom and pops weren't going to afford the rents here anyway. If anything, just be glad the large chains is setting shop here instead of some other place and displacing those small shops.

I'm also very happy to see some retail finally come to this part of West St. One can drive (or walk if you so prefer and actually that should be encouraged ;)) up West St. all the way to Washington Heights and find no retail at all. So glad that is beginning to change, at least in this spot.

But, the mom and pop shops not being able to afford the rents is why we have all the chains in Manhattan now anyway. With all the new developments that charge high rents, only chains can pay it.

It's a trade off. New buildings, offering more apartments or office space, that are so costly that chains almost always go in the bottom, or older buildings with the mom and pop shops.

NewYorkDoc
November 14th, 2007, 11:40 AM
apparently people do like them since they are always full of customers.

I can see.

econ_tim
November 14th, 2007, 12:41 PM
But, the mom and pop shops not being able to afford the rents is why we have all the chains in Manhattan now anyway. With all the new developments that charge high rents, only chains can pay it.

It's a trade off. New buildings, offering more apartments or office space, that are so costly that chains almost always go in the bottom, or older buildings with the mom and pop shops.

there are plenty of "mom & pop" electronics stores in times square and midtown. how do they afford to pay the rent? by charging exorbitant mark ups. i'll stick to best buy or amazon.

NewYorkDoc
November 14th, 2007, 12:46 PM
^
Alright nit picker. I dont patronize at those shops, nor do I support them. I believe that most of what they sell are rip off's without good warranties. In the case of electronics I would choose J&R over Best Buy, Circuit City, or Amazon.

tribecabound
November 14th, 2007, 05:57 PM
these big buildings all seem to have these large chain stores underneath now. look at 15cpw with the best buy (which actually looks better than i thought it would). if i could afford to live in this building, i would love it. you never have to leave! barnes and noble AND whole foods--that's pretty great if you ask me. it's like the time warner center for downtown. i hear a high end restaurant/chef is also going in. has anyone heard what that might be? as for the building, i think the limestone looks pretty fantastic. the condo building needs to be looked at separately from the rental. the buildings are not completely separate....

tribecabound
November 14th, 2007, 05:58 PM
i mean the buildings are completely separate

NewYorkDoc
November 14th, 2007, 10:06 PM
I think there are pluses and minuses for chain stores. The question is are we getting too many?

Alonzo-ny
November 14th, 2007, 10:15 PM
Yes, I believe things would be best with decent mix of Chains and Indie stores. Interesting note, in alot of british high streets you will see the exact same selection of chains in almost every city but its not an issue, i think its because generally there are just as many in number but smaller in size Indie stores.

tribecabound
November 14th, 2007, 10:43 PM
"are we getting too many"?

i think it depends on the area. there were no conveniences in tribeca like a bbandbeyond, a big bookstore, or (especially) a nice supermarket. i have a feeling mostly everyone who complains will buy something from these sooner or later. it's just easier.

Alonzo-ny
November 18th, 2007, 10:13 PM
Saw this today, whilst still liking the tower I didnt like what i saw at the base which is a clash of the limestone and a different stone cladding which doesnt really mix well.

rocketstarbaby
November 23rd, 2007, 12:38 PM
Bed, Bath, and Beyond is now open. Barnes and Noble will be open next Tuesday.

rocketstarbaby
November 26th, 2007, 04:07 PM
270 Greenwich Street New York, New York

New Bookstore Debuts on November 28

NEW YORK, Nov 14, 2007 (BUSINESS WIRE)

Barnes & Noble, Inc, the world's largest bookseller, will open a new bookstore on November 28 at 270 Greenwich Street, Tribeca, in Manhattan. The store will stock close to 200,000 book, music, DVD and magazine titles and include a cafe serving Starbucks coffee. The new Tribeca Barnes & Noble will be open from 9 a.m. to 11 p.m. Monday through Saturday, and 9 a.m. to 10 p.m. on Sunday and employ approximately 130 people from the community.

The public is invited to a Preview Night Party at the new Tribeca Barnes & Noble on Tuesday, November 27, from 6 to 9 p.m. A portion of the Preview Night sales will benefit P.S. 234, P.S. 150, P.S 89, and I.S. 89. Curious George will be on hand to meet fans.

On Thursday, December 6, at 7 p.m., Gregory Maguire will be on hand to sign copies of Lost: A Novel. Anthony Bourdain will sign copies of The Elements of Cooking: Translating the Chef's Art for Every Kitchen on Saturday, December 15, at 7 p.m.
Barnes & Noble's bookselling innovations have established it as America's top bookseller brand. For the fourth year in a row, the EquiTrend(R) Brand Study by Harris Interactive(R) named Barnes & Noble bookstores number one in overall brand equity, which is based on a brand's strength in familiarity, quality and purchase intent. The new store will feature:

-- The Barnes & Noble Membership Program. Designed for Barnes & Noble's best customers, this program gives Members 40% off hardcover fiction and nonfiction bestsellers, 20% off all other adult hardcover books, and 10% off virtually everything else in Barnes & Noble stores and online at Barnes & Noble.com. The annual fee is $25.

-- Rapid special-order service. Can't find it on the shelf? Barnes & Noble's massive warehouse inventory is available in real-time, enabling its booksellers to order and confirm the availability of over one million titles at the click of a button.

-- Large-scale children's departments. Bigger than most typical bookstores and stocking over 15,000 titles in an easy-to-browse environment, "Barnes & Noble Jr." departments are designed to appeal to children, parents, teachers and librarians. Children's story hours will be held three times a week.

-- Advanced technology music-listening and movie-previewing system. The store's music department will feature RedDotNet, the most advanced listening and previewing technology. RedDotNet enables customers to listen to any CD in the store, sampling up to 270,000 music titles by simply passing it under a scanner. Connected to the company's online electronic music catalog, the store's listening stations make "browsing with your ears" a reality. Thanks to the latest technology, RedDotNet stations also allow customers to view a three-minute clip of up to 60,000 DVDs.

-- Giant Newsstand. The store's newsstand stocks over 2,000 titles, including hundreds of hard-to-find specialty magazines,
out-of-town and even foreign newspapers.

-- Wi-Fi Service. AT&T Wi-Fi(SM) service allows customers to use their laptop computers and personal digital assistants anywhere in the store or cafe to communicate online, surf the Internet and connect to corporate networks at speeds 50 to 100 times as fast as a dial-up connection. A single two-hour session costs $3.95, and an annual membership with unlimited access to Barnes & Noble and more than 10,700 AT&T Wi-Fi hot spots is available for $19.95 per month (with a one-year commitment).

-- Community Center. The Barnes & Noble store will serve as a local community center, hosting a number of community events throughout the year. They will include author readings and discussions, book clubs, and programs with local literary and cultural organizations. The store will also hold bookfairs, partnering with local schools and other community institutions. For more information, please contact Carolyn Hughes at 212-587-5389.

lofter1
November 26th, 2007, 07:46 PM
That ^ is the messiest post we've seen around here in a long time.

Full of junk http://wirednewyork.com/forum/images/icons/icon13.gif

rocketstarbaby
November 26th, 2007, 08:06 PM
That ^ is the messiest post we've seen around here in a long time.

Full of junk http://wirednewyork.com/forum/images/icons/icon13.gif


Just letting people know the status of the building and it's retail space. No need to be rude. I'm sure a lot of people don't know bed bath and beyond and barnes and noble are now open.

ZippyTheChimp
November 26th, 2007, 08:22 PM
I think he meant all that spammy clutter.

lofter1
November 26th, 2007, 08:45 PM
Just trying to encourage posters to do some editing and formatting so we can have a good reading experience.

One might ask who's being rude when the posts aren't doing much other than selling us dish towels and magazines.

If you can't stand the heat ...

scumonkey
November 26th, 2007, 08:48 PM
I'll admit I didn't read it cause it was long and LOOKED LIKE SPAM :rolleyes:

rocketstarbaby
November 27th, 2007, 09:47 AM
Just trying to encourage posters to do some editing and formatting so we can have a good reading experience.

One might ask who's being rude when the posts aren't doing much other than selling us dish towels and magazines.

If you can't stand the heat ...

Well that was the article in market watch exactly. I deleted the pictures but the rest is the article. If you have no interest in 101 Warren that's your prerogative but this thread is 101 Warren Street. If you think an article in market watch is spam then that's your opinion. Maybe some people want to attend the opening party tonight. Maybe some people want to meet the author tonight. Maybe some people want to help the local schools tonight. I don't know you seem to be the expert. Then again I doubt you will be one of the new resident of 101 Warren or live in 200 Chambers. I thought most people on this thread are the new condo owners. I can tell you definitely are not since you are so low class and uncouth.

ZippyTheChimp
November 27th, 2007, 10:15 AM
Simmer down. I edited your post, so it's readable.


I thought most people on this thread are the new condo owners.You thought wrong.

lofter1
November 27th, 2007, 10:36 AM
... you are so low class and uncouth.

:cool:

If I weren't "the expert" and so thick-skinned I might consider that a disrespectful personal insult (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3711).

rocketstarbaby
November 27th, 2007, 10:44 AM
:cool:

If I weren't "the expert" and so thick-skinned I might consider that a disrespectful personal insult (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3711).

Let me see how did you put it

"If you can't stand the heat ..."

ZippyTheChimp
November 27th, 2007, 10:45 AM
That's enough from both of you.

tribecabound
December 4th, 2007, 08:31 PM
i saw that bbandb and barnes and noble are now opened. bank of america next. anyone's thoughts on how the retail space looks in the building?

ZippyTheChimp
December 4th, 2007, 09:19 PM
The big box stores are not a problem, since they are on the 2nd floor, or on Warren-West Sts.

But there are plans to landscape the wide Greenwich St sidewalk. Some thought should have been given to selecting retail along the street, or at least limiting the store sizes.

So, not only do we get a bank, but they take almost half the available space.

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GreenwichBoy
December 4th, 2007, 11:27 PM
Tribeca Committee
DATE: Wednesday, December 12, 2007
TIME: 5:30 PM
PLACE: Community Board #1 Office
49-51 Chambers Street, Room 709


Liquor license applications:



101 Warren Street/270 Greenwich Street , application for liquor license for Burak T. Karacam (Corp. to be named later) – Resolution



From: Community Board 1 website

GreenwichBoy
December 4th, 2007, 11:36 PM
http://www.rkf.com/resources/13931/270GreenwichStRestaurant1b.jpg

http://www.rkf.com/resources/13481/270GreenwichStRest_main1a.jpg

From RKF Realty

antinimby
December 5th, 2007, 06:38 AM
What does a damn bank branch need that much space for anyway? I doubt they'd get that many customers in there all at once, even during peak hours.

That could easily hold two or three other businesses. What a total waste.

tribecabound
December 5th, 2007, 04:24 PM
does anyone know what restaurant is going in?

that bank branch is rather humongous!

pianoman11686
December 5th, 2007, 11:37 PM
Don't know, but the Palm just snagged the restaurant space next door at 200 Chambers.

tribecabound
December 6th, 2007, 06:19 PM
i hope it's something good in 101 warren. a bistro like pastis or balthazar would be great for the area, don't you think?

tribecabound
December 14th, 2007, 04:02 PM
anyone have an update on what might be going in 101 warren restaurant wise? also, when is whole foods opening? i am so sick of food emporium!

LeCom
December 15th, 2007, 04:26 PM
Interesting how though the 7 WTC's basic design premise is opening up of Greenwich Street as opposed to its predecessor's's street-blocking presence, yet with thius broadening of the street canyon by 101 Barclay and 101 Warren, both set back from the curb by a considerable margin, makes 7 jut out and block a part of the street casnyon, exerting a similar presense to the old tower.

Not saying that it's a bad thing or that the two cases are one of the same, just an observation.

goldengirl
December 22nd, 2007, 11:16 PM
Any guesses on the market pp sq ft? The sponsor just repriced us at about $2K. Given the market, what do you think for the 3 bedrooms with river views and terraces? I think we can expect at least $2500. Does that sound right?

goldengirl
December 22nd, 2007, 11:19 PM
Burak Karacam http://www.linkedin.com/img/icon/degree/icon_degree_3_24x24.gif


President at BK Restaurant Partners LLC
Greater New York City Area (http://www.linkedin.com/search?search=&sortCriteria=3&searchLocationType=R&region=us_70)


Current (http://www.linkedin.com/ppl/webprofile?action=vmi&id=387905&authToken=A7Cl&authType=name&trk=ppro_viewmore#positions)

President at BK Restaurant Partners LLCPast (http://www.linkedin.com/ppl/webprofile?action=vmi&id=387905&authToken=A7Cl&authType=name&trk=ppro_viewmore#positions)

Vice President at Lehman Brothers Inc.
Analyst and Associate at Lehman Brothers Inc.Education (http://www.linkedin.com/ppl/webprofile?action=vmi&id=387905&authToken=A7Cl&authType=name&trk=ppro_viewmore#edu)

Harvard Business School
Duke UniversityBK Restaurant Partners LLC is the owner and manager of Pera Mediterranean Brasserie, opened November 2006, focusing on bringing the authentic tastes of the Eastern Mediterranean to Midtown Manhattan, in a modern, casually upscale setting.

goldengirl
December 22nd, 2007, 11:24 PM
It opened on the southeast side and it's not that big.

antinimby
December 23rd, 2007, 12:56 AM
So they did divvied up the space?

LeCom
December 24th, 2007, 01:31 AM
I thought most people on this thread are the new condo owners. I can tell you definitely are not since you are so low class and uncouth.
So, according to you, inability to afford an overpriced condo = low class and uncouth? In 2006 I briefly worked with the design team for the building. They were actually great guys. Shame that this building is populated by snobs like you.

rocketstarbaby
December 24th, 2007, 02:06 AM
[quote=LeCom;206060]So, according to you, inability to afford an overpriced condo = low class and uncouth? ]


No inability to afford a condo isn't low class. Low class and uncouth is someone who attacks another poster, especially a new member, because they posted an article about the status of barnes and noble and it's opening date, which several people where interested in this information.

Uncouth and low class is someone who has a history of attacking other posters. I checked that guy's history and he seems to do it on a regular basis. That my friend is low class but if you can't see that then it speaks volumes about you as well. I guess it's OK for him to be rude but when I defend myself you run around and cry class warfare and get all offended.

I guess it's OK because that guy spends 24-7 on this forum and is all cosy with the moderator.

rocketstarbaby
December 24th, 2007, 02:12 AM
anyone have an update on what might be going in 101 warren restaurant wise? also, when is whole foods opening? i am so sick of food emporium!

Whole Foods will open in the spring most likely in April.

ZippyTheChimp
December 24th, 2007, 09:25 AM
So they did divvied up the space?Looks the same to me.

212
December 24th, 2007, 09:38 AM
Uncouth and low class


You make quite a first impression :rolleyes:

Check out this thread (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3710&page=3), will you?
The Wired New York regulars have their virtues.

dimadelux
January 14th, 2008, 12:57 PM
any more updates?

thank you in advance!

lofter1
January 14th, 2008, 01:47 PM
I was walking through BPC Saturday night and couldn't help but notice that the illuminated white plastic BED BATH & BEYOND sign on the west side of 101 Warren is quite big and bright during the nighttime.

Does that thing stay lit up all night long?

Rather imposing (and not so necessary) imho.

Luckily I don't live in BPC north with a window facing east :cool:

Tectonic
January 14th, 2008, 02:18 PM
It isn't necessary to leave it on all night I think. Light the Empire State, light out should be 12 midnight.

tribecabound
January 14th, 2008, 05:14 PM
our friends bought one of the townhomes. they got a letter in dec saying that closings were going to start in feb. by the looks of the building, that's a bit ambitious, don't you think? what about the restaurant? who is this barakam fellow? any more color on that?

diggin76
March 19th, 2008, 12:21 PM
The first closing notices have gone out and are expected to take place in early april. Whole foods will probably have a grand opening around July 4th. I see people are already living in the rental portion of the building. Also, I am moving into one of the "townhomes" and everyone should understand that is a total misnomer. They are just duplex apartments, I don't know how the marketing people decided this makes them worthy of being called a town"home"! Supposedly the new whole foods is going to be the best ever, with an upstairs dining area and all the bells and whistles. I am so glad to be able to get off Fresh Direct!

Edward
March 23rd, 2008, 11:34 AM
See 101 Warren St condo sales prices and floor plans (http://condos.wirednewyork.com/search/buildingdetails.aspx?bid=4780) in our Condo section.

DarrylStrawberry
March 23rd, 2008, 11:45 AM
3.23

NYatKNIGHT
March 24th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Good shot - they did a fine job with this one.

dimadelux
March 31st, 2008, 03:37 PM
I will be viewing one of the apartments friday morning, i will post Pict :)

dimadelux
March 31st, 2008, 04:32 PM
ill post pics of apartment on Friday

GreenwichBoy
March 31st, 2008, 04:46 PM
ill post pics of apartment on Friday


Are you renting or buying?

dimadelux
March 31st, 2008, 06:01 PM
Are you renting or buying?

Renting

tribecabound
April 1st, 2008, 10:50 AM
HI,
Are you renting at 101 warren or the Murray Street building? They are two completely separate buildings and the apts are completely different...

tribecabound
April 18th, 2008, 01:50 PM
Has anyone moved in here yet? Any pics of the apts inside?

334lee
May 6th, 2008, 09:40 PM
Has anyone closed at 101 Warren yet?

Is July 4 confirmed for Whole Foods opening?

antinimby
May 13th, 2008, 09:43 PM
^ Nope but July 9 is... ;)

From racked today (http://racked.com/archives/2008/05/12/breaking_tribeca_whole_foods_o.php):


BREAKING: Tribeca Whole Foods Opening July 9th!

Monday, May 12, 2008, by Leslie Price

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Even when obscured a bit by trees, that signage is unmistakable.

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Sidewalk blocked off in front of the store

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/2334/2486476277_754b3affc4_o.jpg
A closer look at that beautiful sign

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/2196/2486476393_683ba71c04_o.jpg
Peeking inside the store


It's official: the grocery chain to end all grocery chains, Whole Foods, will be opening the doors to its Tribeca store at 101 Warren Street July 9th. That means there's less than two months to go until cashiers start ringing at NYC's second-largest Whole Foods yet (second only to Bowery). The 69,000-square-foot location will feature a fromegerie and dining area on a mezzanine level; we're still waiting for more juicy details to leak. As you can see from the gallery above, things are really coming together down on Greenwich and Murray. We have signage!

tribecabound
May 13th, 2008, 10:34 PM
I am so happy it's opening in July! Have the lucky residents of 101 Warren started moving in?

RandySavage
May 13th, 2008, 11:11 PM
I was in this building's Barnes & Noble the other day and somebody was nonchalantly walking their large dog (not seeing-eye) around the store as they browsed books. I thought it was great! Only in New York.

kz1000ps
May 28th, 2008, 12:09 PM
5/24:

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7349/img8231kw0.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1189/img8262ea2.jpg

antinimby
May 28th, 2008, 11:51 PM
I wonder how business is going over at Bed Bath & Beyond and Whole Foods.

lofter1
May 29th, 2008, 12:37 AM
A bunch of follks in 101 will be really ticked off when that little St. Johns building comes down and something new goes up.

BrooklynLove
May 29th, 2008, 07:46 AM
i've been trying for over a year now but i still can't get past the strong similarity with the facade of the fbi building accross the island. there are differences obviously but i get the same impression - which doesn't really suit my tastes.

tribecabound
May 29th, 2008, 05:10 PM
what makes you think that building would be sold?

anyone have any idea what restaurant is going in? i think people moved into the lower floors of the duplex part. i think i saw window treatments.

lucky jerks ;)

lofter1
May 29th, 2008, 05:18 PM
re: st. johns

what makes you think that building would be sold?

It's dinky.

ZippyTheChimp
May 29th, 2008, 05:29 PM
C6 zoning.

lofter1
May 29th, 2008, 07:06 PM
Yes ^ C6-4 to be exact (per Zoning Map 12-b (http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/zone/map12b.pdf) [ pdf ! ] )

That's the same zoning for the entire block, including the St. John's 10-story building at 169 West Street / 101 Murray Street and the 101 Warrent project (aka 170 - 176 West).

My guess is that the St. J building is way underbuilt per allowable FAR.

The 101 Warren building has a very large blank wall on the west face of the Murray Street wing which faces onto a mini-open space & entry for the St. John's building. Clearly the 101 developer sees the possiblilty that a building will rise up against hat blank wall.

I'm not saying that this new building will happen any time too soon, but the eventuality of a building rising on the St. John's site which maximizes the allowable FAR (and rises to block some of the south facing units at 101) is fairly inevitable.

But the developer is planting that alpine forest on the roof between the two plots, so there will be somethng of a buffer :cool:

antinimby
May 29th, 2008, 09:14 PM
St. John's is not attractive. I would like to see it redeveloped sooner than later.

When's their lease up?

lofter1
May 29th, 2008, 09:32 PM
They own it.

ZippyTheChimp
May 29th, 2008, 09:37 PM
My assumption was that the College of Insurance, which merged with St John's about 8 years ago, owned the building.

lofter1
May 29th, 2008, 09:42 PM
Could be ^

A DOB application I saw said "St. John's"

ZippyTheChimp
May 29th, 2008, 09:53 PM
I didn't see your post when I replied. I meant that the building was never leased, so St John's would have assumed ownership in the merger.

tribecabound
June 10th, 2008, 06:18 PM
signs are up all around that it is opening in summer of 08! I can't wait. Also, people keep moving in. any insider info on the building?

Derek2k3
June 23rd, 2008, 10:56 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3118/2606509498_442d5edae1_o.jpg
a very unromantic part of the skyline.

ablarc
June 24th, 2008, 06:50 AM
a very unromantic part of the skyline.
Smaller buildings footprints could have saved this area; might have turned out like the stretch further uptown, where the Meier buildings rule.

NYC4Life
June 24th, 2008, 07:01 AM
a very unromantic part of the skyline.

Tribeca is just north of the financial district, so you can't expect trendy office towers to rise here.

BrooklynLove
June 25th, 2008, 06:54 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3118/2606509498_442d5edae1_o.jpg
a very unromantic part of the skyline.

the dude with the phone looks like he's checking out the other guy's a**

NYC4Life
June 25th, 2008, 02:10 PM
^^^ Pride Parade in 4 days...LOL

antinimby
July 4th, 2008, 12:44 AM
Whole Foods Seen as Boost To TriBeCa

http://www.nysun.com/pics/5427.jpg
Whole Foods will open in TriBeCa on July 9


By ABRAHAM RIESMAN, Special to the Sun
July 3, 2008 (http://www.nysun.com/new-york/whole-foods-seen-as-boost-to-tribeca/81212/)

A new Whole Foods Market is set to open in TriBeCa on Wednesday, a welcome amenity, residents and real estate experts say, for a neighborhood that is seen as too quiet outside business hours.

Situated at the corner of Greenwich and Warren streets, the supermarket will span 69,000 square feet and include a "shucking station" for oysters and clams and a "Shawarma station" for Mediterranean foods.

About two blocks from the former World Trade Center site, the store is opening its doors on the heels of a report that the rebuilding of ground zero will take much longer than expected.

"Whole Foods is a huge company, a cutting-edge company, and if they put their flag downtown, they're expressing confidence in the market for the area," a retail broker for Newmark Knight Frank, Jeff Roseman, said. "It's the right place at the right time."

"It's a sign of our maturity as a community," the president of the Alliance for Downtown New York, Elizabeth Berger, said. "I think we're seeing a population that's here to stay and here to spend money."

The neighborhoods south of Canal Street, in the blocks around ground zero, have been changing at a rapid pace in the past decade. What was once a primarily business-oriented region has been flooded with new, permanent residents.

A 2007 survey by the Alliance for Downtown estimated that 17,800 people moved into Lower Manhattan in the six years after the attacks of September 11, 2001, and the group says there are now more than 50,000 people living there. Community Board 1 projects that the area will have 76,000 residents by 2010.

Experts also say that the Whole Foods is an indicator not just of population growth, but of who comprises that population. The Alliance for Downtown estimates that the average household income for Lower Manhattan below Chambers Street is $242,000 a year.

"You had the old Gristede's and the Food Emporium, but nothing that addressed the yuppies," a retail consultant and broker for Prudential Douglas Elliman, Faith Hope Consolo, said. "Whole Foods is not for everyone. They're not going to go into a housing project or a low-income area; not because they're expensive, but because that's not their image."

Ms. Consolo said Whole Foods typically brings more business to an area.

"When they went into the Bowery, other retailers followed," she said, referring to the Whole Foods that opened last year on Houston Street.

"For an emerging neighborhood, one that's not full of foot traffic, it's a big draw."

"The Whole Foods is positive news and emblematic of how the private sector can be good for the area," the president of Community Board 1, Julie Menin, said. The ground zero report "shows that the only real development is coming from the private sector, not the public sector," she said.

"Our neighborhood is changing," a spokesman for the Lower Manhattan Development Corp., Michael Murphy, said. "It's gone from just a financial area to a 24/7 community, which needs amenities like a grocery store or a dry cleaners."

© 2008 The New York Sun, One, SL, LLC

GreenwichBoy
July 9th, 2008, 09:25 PM
http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/3178/2652077639_34efa5ddb0_o.jpg

The Benniest
July 9th, 2008, 10:34 PM
There are some pictures of Whole Foods' Kid's Aisle and 2nd Floor Cafe at Racked here (http://racked.com/archives/2008/07/07/oh_wholly_foods_kids_aisle_second-floor_cafe.php).

BrooklynLove
July 10th, 2008, 07:19 AM
I was in the Bed, Bath & Beyond this weekend - the space is huge, and I'd imagine pricey - makes me wonder how long BBB plans on taking to recoup its costs before they can start seeing profits. Ditto for Whole Foods. These 2 companies have been on the ropes recently thus my heightened interest.

pianoman11686
July 12th, 2008, 07:03 PM
Very excited about this opening. Hopefully I'll get a chance to pay a visit sometime this week.

lorenzonyc
July 13th, 2008, 06:34 PM
What is going into the corner of Warren and West? Right now is just an empty space - I had thought it would be part of Whole Foods but doesn't seem that way now

tribecabound
July 14th, 2008, 12:54 PM
is a restaurant space. don't know what is going in there though. anyone have any idea?

ZippyTheChimp
August 23rd, 2008, 10:21 PM
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3416/101warren14cap3.th.jpg (http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=101warren14cap3.jpg)

lofter1
August 23rd, 2008, 11:42 PM
Great shot, Zip ^ http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

NYC late afternoon light can be amazing.

LeCom
August 24th, 2008, 12:09 AM
Lofter, you like that shot just because 10 barclay is blocked out in it, right? ;)

lofter1
August 24th, 2008, 12:26 AM
Never hurts :cool:

dimadelux
August 25th, 2008, 06:12 PM
I walked by the building, on Greenwich St side. and saw that T-Mobile will be coming there soon, right in between whole foods and bank of america

Derek2k3
September 6th, 2008, 05:47 AM
http://ny.therealdeal.com/articles/photographer-buys-tribeca-penthouse-for-13m

The Real Deal
Updated On 09/04/08 at 11:26AM

Photographer buys Tribeca penthouse for $13M

By Adam Pincus

Photographer Albert Watson paid $13.15 million for a three-bedroom penthouse in the Edward Minskoff-developed 101 Warren Street in Tribeca.

The 4,518-square-foot condominium at the southeast corner of the building is the second largest in the 227-unit development. His apartment includes a 1,669-square-foot wrap around terrace.

The sale by the developers closed on August 19, according to public records posted today.

Watson made a handsome profit in February this year when he sold for $34 million a West Village building at 777 Washington Street that he bought for $850,000 as a live-work space in 1985.

The 227-unit, 35-floor tower in Tribeca is part of a million-square-foot mixed-use development designed by architects Skidmore Owings and Merrill.

Barnes & Noble, Bed Bath & Beyond and Whole Foods have signed retail leases at the building.

The apartment, called a "skyhome" by the developers, was listed for $16.3 million on the Corcoran Web site.

dimadelux
September 24th, 2008, 08:35 PM
Walked by today again and saw that Gamestop will be opening by the newly opened T-Mobile store on Greenwich

Kace
October 20th, 2008, 06:07 PM
Anyone closed on their apartment and willing to share their experience? The inspection and walk-thru process, the punch list, the timing of the closing, etc...? Thanks.

Derek2k3
February 2nd, 2009, 02:47 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3484/3248528962_73f93658bb_o.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3318/3248528974_3aba48b226_o.jpg


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Alonzo-ny
February 2nd, 2009, 03:32 PM
I quite like this one.

antinimby
February 2nd, 2009, 05:22 PM
20 stories too short.

dimadelux
February 4th, 2009, 08:10 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/3248528972_e249c10852_o.jpg

Anyone know what that tube at 101 Barclay (the white building to the left) is?

yea i am architecture illiterate :o

Derek2k3
February 4th, 2009, 08:51 AM
I guess it's the stair/elevator and mechanical tower.

lofter1
February 4th, 2009, 09:54 AM
Water tanks inside, methinks.

antinimby
February 4th, 2009, 12:43 PM
Do office buildings have water tanks like the ones on residentials? I don't think I've ever seen them on the office towers maybe because they're much smaller.

Derek2k3
April 3rd, 2009, 09:21 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3414/3410018413_47fd3a09e9.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3572/3410018415_a2ab5bcee4.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3657/3410018417_61561ed068.jpg



Bonus shots from my office.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3326/3410030893_26cc8d42eb.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/3410030753_839550348c.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3381/3410030801_a58ec89787_o.jpg
Waiting for 56 Leonard to join in...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3649/3410030685_b5fd049b33_o.jpg

BrooklynRider
June 3rd, 2009, 03:01 AM
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o231/amyrbyers/view4.jpg