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Derek2k3
February 3rd, 2003, 10:35 PM
Westside Ferry Terminal and Tower
57th Street at the West Side Highway
Macrae-Gibson Architects P.C.

Renderings by 3dWorkz
http://www.3dworkz.org/images/63-269-Waterfront1.jpg
http://www.3dworkz.org/images/63-270-Waterfront2.jpg
http://www.3dworkz.org/images/63-271-Waterfront3.jpg
http://www.3dworkz.org/images/63-272-Waterfront4.jpg
http://www.3dworkz.org/images/63-273-Waterfront5.jpg
http://www.3dworkz.org/images/63-274-Waterfront6.jpg

http://www.aiany.org/designawards/2002/project/022a.htm

Architect:
Macrae-Gibson Architects
450 Seventh Avenue, Suite 2406
New York, NY 10001
Phone: 212. 294. 2940
Fax: 212. 294. 2941
Email: mga@m-ga.com
www.m-ga.com

Project:
Manhattan Mid-Town Ferry Terminal and Tower
Location:
57th Street at the West Side Highway
Owner / Client: *
Hudson River Navigation Company

Check out the AIANY site and check out the winners and entries for their 2002 awards.
\http://www.aiany.org/designawards/2002/index.htm

NYguy
February 4th, 2003, 09:29 AM
I like it, it adds a little distinction to the area....

Eugenius
February 4th, 2003, 11:35 AM
I love the irregular shape. *New York has a precious few buildings that are this unique. *I really hope it gets built, as it would really light up the Hudson waterfront.

NYatKNIGHT
February 4th, 2003, 11:44 AM
The location is key at that critical access point to midtown and the West Side coming off the GW Bridge. It will be an enormous improvement. Cool!

billyblancoNYC
February 4th, 2003, 12:05 PM
Looks good - develop the area in style, so the skyline on the West Side is much more impressive.

Is this gonna get built?

Also, it was great to see so many NYC projects and even more NYC architects on that link. *LOVE IT!

JMGarcia
February 4th, 2003, 05:33 PM
Very nice looking building. It'll work well at the south end of Trump's Riverside west.

TLOZ Link5
February 4th, 2003, 06:33 PM
How tall is it going to be?

ZippyTheChimp
February 4th, 2003, 06:46 PM
Derek:
Building looks good, but is this going to happen? The pier on the north side of the terminal is pier 98, used for Con Ed fuel delivery.

Agglomeration
February 4th, 2003, 09:57 PM
For now the plan is still on the drawing board. Once they are shown to the public, the developers should be prepared for "the building will destroy our neighborhood!" hate-spewing from TEDAO's (Tear Everything Down at Once) based in the West Side.

(Edited by Agglomeration at 8:58 pm on Feb. 4, 2003)

Edward
February 4th, 2003, 10:29 PM
Here is one year-old view of the block from 57th Street. The middle of the block was cleared for NY CyberCenter (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/topic.cgi?forum=3&topic=13). However the project is on hold since 9/11.

The demolition underway to clear the way for the NY CyberCenter (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/topic.cgi?forum=3&topic=13). 17 February 2002.

http://www.wirednewyork.com/images/cybercenter_57th_17feb02.jpg


The building on the East side of the block, the northwest corner of 57th Street and Eleventh Avenue, is currently being demolished. A 37-story rental apartment building called the Helena (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/topic.cgi?forum=4&topic=205) is going to be built on the site.

Across 57th Street, the Department of Sanitation building that is located between 55th and 57th Streets at West Side Highway is being demolished. I am curious what is going to be built there. Here is a photograph of the place on 21 December 2002.

http://www.wirednewyork.com/manhattan/images/west_side_highway_nypst_21dec02.jpg

tugrul
February 5th, 2003, 02:15 PM
hah, looks like the bow of a ship. I like it :)

Edward, I love how you got the no pedestrian sign on that ramp in the picture =P Were you on foot?

JerzDevl2000
February 5th, 2003, 04:12 PM
I really like this proposal and how the whole area is changing, ya can really see it in the 2nd to last pic that Edward took. I'd love to see it built, and how it will look with Durst's Helena building once they are all done.

If ya notice, in the last overhead shot of the renderings, you see that the elevated Miller Highway has been demolished and moved in. Trump wanted this to go with his Riverside South project, but the city/state had spent a lot of $ to rebuild it in the early 90's. It would be great if it was done though, since Riverside Park would *be extended down to 59th St. :-)

ZippyTheChimp
February 5th, 2003, 05:49 PM
Actually, the rendering shows the Miller Highway as a tunnel. The road shown above ground is the new Riverside Blvd, which is being built as part of Trump Place.

Trump wants the tunnel. The state/city don't want to spend the money to replace a 7 year old highway.

The park extension to 59 St will happen with or without a tunnel. An interim park is being built in stages as the development moves southward. There are two plans for the park once the development is complete; one with a tunnel, and one with the elevated highway.

I couldn't find anything online, but there is a sign at the construction site that explains it all.

Edward
February 5th, 2003, 08:55 PM
Quote: from tugrul on 1:15 pm on Feb. 5, 2003

Edward, I love how you got the no pedestrian sign on that ramp in the picture =P Were you on foot?


I left my bike chained downstairs - the shot is from the top of New York Passenger Ship Terminal (http://www.wirednewyork.com/piers/nypst/default.htm). You can get to the top only when a cruise ship comes in, which is rare in winter. On that day Queen Elizabeth 2 was visiting New York.

JerzDevl2000
February 6th, 2003, 02:55 AM
Zippy, you're right. I hadn't kept up with this in a while, but I thought the new highway through Riverside South would be open-cut This page explains the idea well.

http://www.nycroads.com/roads/west-side/

Check out how old the rendering is on this page. The Riverside South towers look nothing like these!

ZippyTheChimp
February 6th, 2003, 02:54 PM
Thanks for the link. I remember that span over Canal St.
Brought back memories when I was a kid, family heading upstate on vacation, my father, knuckles white, sticking the S's on 23 St.

JerzDevl2000
February 9th, 2003, 03:00 AM
Zippy, I'm 26, and my memories of the remains of the west side highway were in '89 - Mom wouldn't take the the subway, so we were in a cab going up West. St/12th Ave. 42nd-59th was where it was hulking, waiting to be demolished. The city was so sad at this time - 1,800 murders a year and crack babies.

The new "lessway", Chelsea Piers, River place and Riverside South, and now this. What a great transformation!

Thomas
February 9th, 2003, 12:45 PM
Having just returned from Boston and being in aw of the Central Artery Tunnel project "Big Dig" I've been inspired.

Imagine what a project like that would do for Manhattan, creating a huge amout of new open space (with new buildings too) and access to our historic waterfront.

Imagine West Street from the Holland tunnel to the Battery Tunnel underground in a cut and cover, aswell as the South Street viaduct from Broad Street to the Brooklyn bridge.

Also partial cut and covers along the West side highway and FDR in stategic places like near the Intrepid, Jacob Javits center.

dbhstockton
February 9th, 2003, 12:53 PM
You've heard of "Westway," right?

ZippyTheChimp
February 9th, 2003, 02:02 PM
Quote: from Thomas on 11:45 am on Feb. 9, 2003

Imagine what a project like that would do for Manhattan, creating a huge amout of new open space (with new buildings too) and access to our historic waterfront.

There is a proposal for a tunnel in Brooklyn, to replace the
aging Gowanus Expwy. The most ambitious tunnel alternative would divert all traffic on the Belt Parkway at Fort Hamilton onto the Verrazano Bridge or the expressway. Belt Parkway from the bridge to 65 St would be eliminated and become parkland.

http://www.dot.state.ny.us/reg/r11/gowanus/images/t3x.gif

Project info here:
http://www.dot.state.ny.us/reg/r11/gowanus/index.html

JerzDevl2000
February 9th, 2003, 03:48 PM
I can't picture West St. being turned into a tunnel north of BPC, August of 2001 was the completion of the reconstruction of it and the creation of the bike lane, to a price tag of $300 million. For South St, it would a great idea, since the seaport is a bit "walled off" from the rest of Lower Manhattan.

As for the big dig, aren't they over budget on it big time? Westway was cancelled in the 80's, and the $ was traded in for mass transit funds. I'm not so crazy about putting road instead of rail projects that are desperately needed. They should have planned this 10 years ago instead of having the Gowanus under constant reconstruction. The whole thing is a mess...

DominicanoNYC
February 9th, 2003, 06:04 PM
This building looks great. And it's just four blocks from my school. This is exactly the type of building I was waiting to see in NYC, if it gets built.

JerzDevl2000
February 9th, 2003, 06:06 PM
Dominicano - Do ya go to John Jay College? I think it's in that part of Manhattan.

DominicanoNYC
February 10th, 2003, 09:12 PM
No it's a high school that I go to.

Thomas
February 10th, 2003, 11:06 PM
Im totaly against any new road/ highway construction, but improving what's already there is worthy.