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BrooklynRider
January 15th, 2008, 08:23 AM
Great photos. I can't recall seeing one of the ESB quite like that before.

Tectonic
January 15th, 2008, 11:41 AM
Great Views.

NYatKNIGHT
January 15th, 2008, 12:01 PM
Stunning views. But there seems to be little visible work being done on the tower since the spire went up.

tdp
January 15th, 2008, 04:10 PM
Wow - I don't suppose there will be an observation deck up there?

Also - what is the building to the right of 4 Times Square (with the clock face)?

NYatKNIGHT
January 15th, 2008, 04:19 PM
^Paramount building.

NoyokA
January 15th, 2008, 06:38 PM
I don't think this guy would have gotten a subprime loan ever, so he can't symbolize the crisis -- and symbols by the way are much more generalized, like the guy cannot "symbolize" "a black man from Detroit who got off a bus in Newark." About the new growing over the old, about any high rise can do this, no? Why is a Duane Reade bag so special?

I agree, when I looked at this picture subprime mortgages was just about the last thing on my mind. This guy would never have gotten a subprime mortgage, this guy never would have been employeed by an institution giving subprime mortgages. He'd be sitting on that bench, homeless, if the subprime mortgage crisis never occurred. I think its been mentioned but the statement that is most powerful about this is that the 3% of the population that controls the wealth has a complete disregard for the extremely poor and working poor. I've seen the juxtaposition a million times. One just needs go to 96th Street on the East Side to see such a living example.

Gotham
January 15th, 2008, 08:07 PM
Unfortunately too many of the best shots were too large to upload.... here are some from last week.

ASchwarz
January 15th, 2008, 09:45 PM
One just needs go to 96th Street on the East Side to see such a living example.

You've made this statement before, and while I understand your broader point, your example is badly outdated. There is no difference between the north and south sides of 96th. It's a luxury corridor from Park to River.

There are obviously substantial differences 10 blocks north and 10 blocks south, but nothing like in the past.

The main difference is that there are no poor people to the south and plenty of poor people to the north, but in 2008 that has nothing to do with neighborhoods but with the historical concentration of urban renewal, public housing and subsidized housing programs in the northern reaches of Manhattan.

Market rents in every nook and cranny of Harlem are now quite high. There is now more luxury constrution underway and planned north of 96th than south of 96th. I was in a meeting today in a building at 121st and Park (in a new building with wraparound windows), and there was substantial construction underway at every angle, including some Upper East Side-style luxury highrise condos. You can easily spend millions on an apartment, to say nothing of townhouses.

NoyokA
January 15th, 2008, 11:24 PM
Its not outdated at all. Unless you interpreted 96th to mean just the street itself and not the immediate vicinity, two blocks south you have extreme wealth, two block to the north you have extreme poverty. For such a change in a four block span makes a strong point nevertheless.

Walk one block north to 97th and you have poverty, walk two blocks north to 98th and you have abject poverty. I used to live there and still frequent it often. I loved it, that is south of 96th anyway. Real Estate agents agree that the area still is bad and hard to market, the exception being 5th Avenue. Even 96th Street itself isnt too hot east of second where it meets the housing projects that start at 92nd Street, you said that there are no poor people to the south, which is also wrong.

ablarc
January 16th, 2008, 10:37 PM
Truly fabulous views!

And the best part is ... you can't see B of A in any of them!

Jake
January 17th, 2008, 07:53 PM
Now some views from the tower!


By clovis (http://www.flickr.com/photos/level2/sets/72157603715908065/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2125/2193361434_cb1d781328_o.jpg



Arrrrr! 'Tis the view from the Flying Dutchman o'er Manhattan!

Derek2k3
January 19th, 2008, 03:22 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2152/2098642003_c5023b2d41_b.jpg
Ana B's Pics (http://www.flickr.com/photos/11690440@N06/)

arcman210
February 12th, 2008, 10:22 AM
its been a while... any progress on this one?

econ_tim
February 12th, 2008, 02:51 PM
its been a while... any progress on this one?

yes, the glass has almost reached the top occupied floor, and there has been some work on the base. will try to take pictures tomorrow.

lofter1
February 12th, 2008, 03:02 PM
AIA on LaGuardia Place has a new exhibition ...

Project Showcase: The Bank of America Tower at One Bryant Park

January 28 — May 3, 2008

http://www.aiany.org/centerforarchitecture/exhibitions.php

http://www.aiany.org/centerforarchitecture/images/OBP_Final_outlinedNEW.jpg

BrooklynLove
February 12th, 2008, 09:38 PM
i checked it out earlier in the month - not much there, but it's nice

econ_tim
February 15th, 2008, 10:26 AM
as promised, new pics:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2112/2267125690_d648b71165_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2195/2266336717_b5c66d2595_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2300/2267125858_13a54e0a23_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2385/2267125942_ea98236323.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2292/2266336541_d5102f71d0_b.jpg

francescany
February 15th, 2008, 01:13 PM
hi to everyone...
this is my first post!
can someone help me?i'm looking for how the structure of BOA works.
can you suggest me one site that will explain me these aspects?
i need also the plan of the shyscraper,if it is possible.
thank you very much

Derek2k3
February 15th, 2008, 01:32 PM
^Went to the AIANY exhibit yetsterday and they have tons of stuff about the tower there. They also have a set of the construction drawings that you can flip through

MidtownGuy
February 15th, 2008, 01:58 PM
It's a shame about all the stripes. The form is confusing enough without all of those lines, both horizontal and vertical, making it look even more busy.
With glass like the Comcast in Philly this would have been much better.
It's still preferable to most of what we have been getting though.

RandySavage
February 15th, 2008, 04:56 PM
^ You're right.

I really like the third photo: dizzying.

Derek2k3
February 17th, 2008, 04:14 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2189/2239115958_1c3cbdd74c_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2236/2237538403_4e87b7e60b_b.jpg
architus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wbronson1/)

krulltime
February 19th, 2008, 11:13 AM
Those shots are so amazing! Thanks for the find Derek2k3! :cool:

antinimby
February 19th, 2008, 06:50 PM
Those last few floors seem to take forever to finish.

All the excitement is now gone and all I care about now is for them to just finish up and be done with it.

That block has been a construction site since 2004 (or was it 2003?!).

Tectonic
February 19th, 2008, 08:00 PM
Its like they can't make any more glass.

Jasonik
February 19th, 2008, 08:00 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Jasonik/boa_diag.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Jasonik/BOA_MERGE.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Jasonik/DSC00728.jpg

BrooklynRider
February 24th, 2008, 09:14 PM
From HRP...

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/BrooklynRiderRob/1207.jpg

ablarc
February 24th, 2008, 09:20 PM
^ Hypodermia.

kliq6
February 25th, 2008, 03:51 PM
BOA to start moving in around June 1

Optimus Prime
February 25th, 2008, 05:37 PM
Random question derived from one of the photos: are the Grace Building and Solow's 9W57 Building related at all? They both have that curved facade and I have always wondered if one copied the other, if they were designed together, or if it's a coincidence.

pianoman11686
February 25th, 2008, 10:42 PM
Both designed by Gordon Bunshaft of SOM in the early 1970s, a few years apart.

I believe Grace was designed and built first. Most people find 9W57 more refined.

NoyokA
February 26th, 2008, 12:25 AM
Both were built at the same time although Solow was commissioned first. Solow who some here wrongly label as cheap rejected the first design for the Solow Building as it was too cheap looking. The original design was the same as the Grace Building, once Solow settled on a more expensive and refined design he sold the original design to a bottom-line developer that built it as the Grace Building.

Optimus Prime
February 26th, 2008, 11:20 AM
Thanks. I like both but I agree that the Solow is more refined and a little more sleek.

antinimby
February 26th, 2008, 08:01 PM
I think both serves their locations just fine. 9W57 is great where it is at on CPS and Grace at BP.

By the way, don't forget there's also a similarly shaped yet even taller tower in Chicago (another example of Chicago's tendency to always trying to one-up NY in everything it does).

NoyokA
February 26th, 2008, 08:07 PM
Only the one in Chicago was built first.

antinimby
February 26th, 2008, 08:25 PM
Well then, I take my comment back. NY is the copycat (and a poor one at that). :D

antinimby
March 6th, 2008, 02:46 AM
Durst Indomitable

Real estate dynasty scion and voice of the family firm, 63-year-old Douglas Durst has a powerful hand in Manhattan’s emerging skyline, including the new Bank of America tower on Bryant Park and the development battle over the West Side Rail Yards.



by Eliot Brown | March 5, 2008 (http://www.observer.com/2008/durst-indomitable)

With the Bank of America tower, how successful is the project overall compared to where you thought it might be a few years ago?
We’re ahead of our pro forma. I had predicted $100 rents, and we’re getting over $150 [a square foot] on the upper floors.

In retrospect, does it seem like more developers should have been building after Sept. 11?
In retrospect, yes.

Did you think it was risky at the time?
I thought it was extremely risky at the time.

You’ve got one floor left to lease?
Yes.

How’s that going?
We have offers for the space, so it’s going very well.

Is it over $185 a foot?
No. … It’s over $150 a foot.

The spire on the Bank of America tower is more than 200 feet tall, and 4 Times Square has a really tall antenna. Why do you like spires so much?
Condé Nast is an antenna and it had to be that tall in order to serve the entire New York City area.

And then the spire on the Bank of America building?
This was the architect’s design.

Do you have reservations about it?
Well, I thought we could have saved a lot of money, but they didn’t think so.

With commercial rents, do you see them dropping at all?
No. Never.

Do you think they’ll stagnate for a bit?
I wouldn’t use ‘stagnate,’ but I think they’re going to level off.

Copyright ©, The New York Observer, L.P.

RandySavage
March 13th, 2008, 02:02 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2378/2329484999_537a3cd4fc.jpg?v=0

I found a photo tour (http://www.flickr.com/photos/whatwewant/sets/72157600178271652/?page=3) of the inside of BoA.

Tectonic
March 13th, 2008, 09:24 AM
A side thought, anyone knows why the skyline is so smoggy lately? Its bad for pictures.

TREPYE
March 13th, 2008, 10:00 AM
Durst Indomitable

Real estate dynasty scion and voice of the family firm, 63-year-old Douglas Durst has a powerful hand in Manhattan’s emerging skyline, including the new Bank of America tower on Bryant Park and the development battle over the West Side Rail Yards.
by Eliot Brown | March 5, 2008 (http://www.observer.com/2008/durst-indomitable)


And then the spire on the Bank of America building?
This was the architect’s design.

Do you have reservations about it?
Well, I thought we could have saved a lot of money, but they didn’t think so.

:rolleyes:

Developers oath.

ramvid01
March 13th, 2008, 10:19 AM
Well Durst is the one that calls the shots. He COULD have decided against it, but he actually decided to listen to the architect. That is a very rare breed of NY Developer right there. :eek:

macreator
March 13th, 2008, 10:16 PM
Durst is indeed one of the better developers. He puts money into design, and evidently listens to at least some of what his architects have to say even when his developer instincts might tell him not to. He's worlds above Boston Properties, and unfortunately most NYC developers.

kliq6
March 14th, 2008, 12:57 PM
Having worked for him for three years around the 4 times square period, he is a great guy, very smart and has a rather large inner circle of people providing input which does get considered. Im hoping he gets the go ahead with Hudson Yards as that will be a very exciting project!

Tectonic
March 14th, 2008, 07:05 PM
Been a fan for years, hope they get the Hudson Yards project as well.

RandySavage
March 23rd, 2008, 03:31 PM
From Hoboken

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2352/2354583871_763a8548b9_o.jpg

BrooklynRider
March 26th, 2008, 09:22 AM
I was driving through the Rockaway's on Sunday and this building is a nice big bump on the skyline. Looks great from the eastern vantange point.

lofter1
March 26th, 2008, 10:11 AM
It seems that this one appears heftier and of wider girth from farther away. Up close it's the height that impresses.

econ_tim
March 26th, 2008, 12:36 PM
The new 6th ave subway entrance looks nice. I'll try to get pics tomorrow.

stache
March 26th, 2008, 10:30 PM
Is it open?

lofter1
March 26th, 2008, 10:53 PM
Not yet ... but the glass enclosure over the staircases is near completion.

Looking very sharp (although still somehat under wraps).

econ_tim
March 28th, 2008, 11:35 AM
my camera batteries died yesterday before i could take a picture.

will try again today.

here's a nice view from duluoz_catz (http://flickr.com/photos/duluoz_cats/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/2361546645_0a63af68c8_o.jpg

Tectonic
March 28th, 2008, 12:05 PM
Incredible! Yet so much more space left (rail yards and parking lots)...can you imagine if we replaced half the old shabby non-landmarks with new towers.

antinimby
March 28th, 2008, 01:53 PM
^ Yeah I agree. Just redeveloping many of those "towers-in-the-park" projects and also reintroducing the street grid on those plots alone could do wonders for this city.

http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/167003229_28c09dec1e.jpg

Wrightfan
March 28th, 2008, 03:39 PM
... reintroducing the street grid on those plots alone could do wonders for this city.
Nope, I disagree. Having walked through those green spaces visiting people who live there I have found them to be quite lovely. The scale of the buildings to the spaces is actually very good.

antinimby
March 28th, 2008, 03:57 PM
Yes you are quite right, very lovely indeed.

So lovely in fact, that I'll be making plans to walk through them later today and soak in all this loveliness:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2434/marinedrivekk1.jpg

antinimby
March 28th, 2008, 04:07 PM
Okay, sorry for that little detour. Let's get back on topic: OBP.

MidtownGuy
March 29th, 2008, 01:35 PM
.can you imagine if we replaced half the old shabby non-landmarks with new towers.

there'd be no more restaurants, bars, or delis.

Tectonic
March 29th, 2008, 04:21 PM
Sure, among the remaining half. :D

RandySavage
March 29th, 2008, 06:48 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3120/2371651874_c129c47082_b.jpg
credit: www.flickr.com/photos/tomr88/

Alonzo-ny
April 6th, 2008, 11:40 PM
From SOL

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/2394886818_3c6b2c0fb1_o.jpg

TREPYE
April 6th, 2008, 11:52 PM
January....

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2295/2170735260_5978c2660a_b.jpg
ksten (http://flickr.com/photos/ksten/)


February...


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2112/2267125690_d648b71165_b.jpg








March...


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2352/2354583871_763a8548b9_o.jpg

April^
Uhmm....Whats with the slow progress in the installing the upper glass facade?:confused:

econ_tim
April 7th, 2008, 11:01 AM
There has been some progress on the upper facade, however. The glass is now up on the northern side of the crown. It is the same pattern as the rest of the glass.

BrooklynLove
April 7th, 2008, 02:04 PM
January....

February...

March...


April^
Uhmm....Whats with the slow progress in the installing the upper glass facade?:confused:

countrywide infection

antinimby
April 7th, 2008, 05:29 PM
There has been some progress on the upper facade, however. The glass is now up on the northern side of the crown. It is the same pattern as the rest of the glass.This post is worthless without pics. :)

RS085
April 15th, 2008, 12:45 PM
Its been a week, any new pics?

lugdus
April 15th, 2008, 03:04 PM
Tuesday 4/15

DarrylStrawberry
April 15th, 2008, 08:01 PM
Hmmmm...I hope the contrast between the clear windows and the ?fritted?frosted? glass on the crown looks less mismatched when the lights finally come on in this building.

lofter1
April 16th, 2008, 05:34 PM
The new subway entrances at the corner look just about ready for use -- very modern with nice milky glass.

Curbed has a report today ...

1 Bryant Park Shows Off Its Lobby

CURBED (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/04/16/1_bryant_park_shows_off_its_lobby.php)
April 16, 2008

http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_04_1BPLobby1.JPG

The intersection of Sixth Avenue and 42nd Street, where Bank of America's jagged tower (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/02/06/curbedwire_b_of_a_tower_looking_good_lucida_shatte red.php)
hath risen high above its neighbors (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/02/08/a_view_that_money_cant_buy_but_3_atm_fees_can.php) , has been a construction site for so long that we've
nearly forgotten what it was like when that corner had wide open spaces overhead (http://curbed.com/archives/2006/02/15/while_youre_waiting_for_one_bryant_park.php).
Some of that open space is about to return to midtown. Folks at the B of A building,
also known as 1 Bryant Park, are getting ready to open the vast new lobby
that stretches along the Avenue and west down The Deuce towards Times Square.
The sidewalk shed protecting pedestrians on Sixth has been reconfigured so that
passers-by are directed to walk almost through the huge panes of glass and into
the block-long stone-and-steel atrium. It's all looking very white, airy, clean
and open. It's a nice addition to midtown and a fitting companion to the wide
open spaces of the real Bryant Park across the way.

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/2149/2419545348_38b7e14252_o.jpg
Looking into the lobby from the sidewalk along Sixth.

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/3097/2418730191_ea58ac3a87_o.jpg
The facade along West 42nd Street.

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/2235/2419545430_2ed1acd53b_o.jpg
The lobby's upper level along the stretch of 42nd Street.

http://curbednetwork.com/cache/gallery/2153/2418730253_134da93d72_o.jpg
1 Bryant Park reflected in the new glass of 1095 Sixth Avenue.

· CurbedWire: B of A Tower Looking Good, Lucida Shattered (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/02/06/curbedwire_b_of_a_tower_looking_good_lucida_shatte red.php) [Curbed]
· A View That Money Can't Buy (But $3 ATM Fees Can) (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/02/08/a_view_that_money_cant_buy_but_3_atm_fees_can.php) [Curbed]
· While You're Waiting for One Bryant Park (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/04/16/curbed.com/archives/2006/02/15/while_youre_waiting_for_one_bryant_park.php) [Curbed]

1bp

Alonzo-ny
April 16th, 2008, 05:45 PM
The NYTimes has set a new lobby standard IMO.

macreator
April 16th, 2008, 11:00 PM
Lobby looks gorgeous -- stone has made a comeback.

What's up with the streetline though? I thought the lobby level glass was going to be flush with the rest of the tower -- I'm not sure I like having it setback a bit.

TREPYE
April 17th, 2008, 12:59 AM
What's up with the streetline though? I thought the lobby level glass was going to be flush with the rest of the tower -- I'm not sure I like having it setback a bit.
Logical, give the large number of pedestrians in the area.

Alonzo-ny
April 17th, 2008, 01:14 AM
From this weekend,

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2398/2420466986_8cf56ecc88_o.jpg

JacobNYC
April 17th, 2008, 09:18 AM
What ever happened to the second spire that's supposed to hold the wind generator? Did that get canned? Thanks.

ZippyTheChimp
April 17th, 2008, 11:15 AM
^
I'm not positive, but I think someone associated with the project stated somewhere in this thread that the turbine was eliminated.

lofter1
April 17th, 2008, 01:23 PM
For that bad news ^ go HERE (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198188&postcount=2569)

ZippyTheChimp
April 17th, 2008, 01:27 PM
Didn't he invent the turbine?

scumonkey
April 17th, 2008, 05:38 PM
taken today from da roof....
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/more/cutop.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/crown.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/portrait.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/landscape.jpg

Tectonic
April 17th, 2008, 05:52 PM
The Hulk next door is very distracting.

JCMAN320
April 17th, 2008, 06:22 PM
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/portrait.jpg

^^^^^GRRR Hulk want be tall with spier......Hulk will make pretty tower ugly.......Hulk madddd!!!!!

antinimby
April 17th, 2008, 06:50 PM
1095 Sixth wouldn't be such a hulk if they'd just left it alone.

Or if they were really deadset on recladding it, then a good design would have made it less of a hulk but unfortunately that does not happen much (good design that is) in this city anymore.

Nowadays, getting it wrong and disappointment seems to be the norm in these here parts.

Optimus Prime
April 17th, 2008, 07:06 PM
I think the Hulk looks slightly better in person from Bryant Park than it does in pictures. It certainly was not the best color choice, though.

ablarc
April 17th, 2008, 07:07 PM
They're all hulks.

Fabrizio
April 17th, 2008, 07:13 PM
Funny how the old stepped-back buildings in foreground look taller and more majestic.

Michiel
April 17th, 2008, 08:27 PM
http://www.pixelmap.com/images/Nav/nyc_04a.jpg

Whats with all te spires? The NY Times tower, BoAT, the one in between which name I can't come up with...
I actually dislike the recent developments.

GVNY
April 17th, 2008, 09:26 PM
Funny how the old stepped-back buildings in foreground look taller and more majestic.

The 1916 zoning codes should still be guiding the designs of contemporary New York skyscrapers through requirement. A pity the city did away with the regulations, for they produced a glorious, healthy city--Oz.

antinimby
April 17th, 2008, 09:44 PM
Whats with all te spires? The NY Times tower, BoAT, the one in between which name I can't come up with...
I actually dislike the recent developments.Don't be silly, they make the skyline look busy and majestic. Furthermore, NY has always been known for having a lot of pointy crowns and spires.

This just continues that tradition, that unfortunately for awhile in the 50's to the early 2000's was nearly abandoned.

ZippyTheChimp
April 17th, 2008, 10:02 PM
BoATBoat is right. It actually looks chunkier with the skin installed.

BrooklynLove
April 17th, 2008, 10:59 PM
^^^^^GRRR Hulk want be tall with spier......Hulk will make pretty tower ugly.......Hulk madddd!!!!!

:D:D:D:D

rmannion
April 18th, 2008, 02:48 AM
Taken today from the ESB:

http://www.ardiem.org/images/28520.jpg

http://www.ardiem.org/images/28524.jpg

stache
April 18th, 2008, 04:14 AM
It's been smoggy lately. :(

lesterp4
April 18th, 2008, 04:44 AM
Every time I see this building I think it would look much better if it were taller and thinner.

brianac
April 18th, 2008, 05:20 AM
Taken today from the ESB:


Good shots, thanks.

RandySavage
April 18th, 2008, 01:12 PM
Every time I see this building I think it would look much better if it were taller and thinner.

What NY skyscraper (built in the last 25 years) wouldn't.

Tectonic
April 18th, 2008, 05:11 PM
It's been smoggy lately. :(

Even during the winter on some days there was a weird summer like haze. Hopefully with more innovation like BOAT it will become a thing of the past.

USSManhattan
April 18th, 2008, 08:25 PM
http://www.pixelmap.com/images/Nav/nyc_04a.jpg

the one in between which name I can't come up with...

Conde Nast.

saobi
April 19th, 2008, 08:15 PM
We are set to move to OBP at around June, already have been trying out computer equipment there.

I can't wait for the move, we are all crowded into a pathetic trading floor at 9 West. All these years, I have been waiting for a brand new trading floor, and unlike the mortgage traders, we are actually making money for the last 2 quarters.

lofter1
April 19th, 2008, 09:16 PM
Welcome aboard, saobi ---

Hope you'll be on an upper floor and can take lots of pictures of the interior & views -- and post them here for everyone to look at.

saobi
April 19th, 2008, 10:13 PM
Thanks. I think the trading floors will be on the lower part of the building. Also, during the day it gets unbelievable busy on the floor, to the point where we rarely have time to go out and get lunch, and always have to ask the interns to bring lunch for us.

BrooklynLove
April 20th, 2008, 12:25 AM
definitely going to be in the first few floors

antinimby
April 20th, 2008, 07:40 PM
saobi, enjoy the waterless urinals. Don't forget to report back here on how that turns out.

BrooklynLove
April 20th, 2008, 10:57 PM
dedicated traders use a bottle. potty trips are for the weak.

JacobNYC
April 21st, 2008, 05:28 PM
Thanks. I think the trading floors will be on the lower part of the building. Also, during the day it gets unbelievable busy on the floor, to the point where we rarely have time to go out and get lunch, and always have to ask the interns to bring lunch for us.

You don't have the worry about that. There will be food courts in the trading floors themselves. A trader will have to walk no more than 20-30 yards to get some grub. As for the waterless urinals, I personally think they're disgusting. All for the environment I guess.

Bob
April 21st, 2008, 06:36 PM
All for political correctness, I guess.

stache
April 21st, 2008, 09:08 PM
when they would put a bunch of ice cubes in the urinal trough?

Alonzo-ny
April 21st, 2008, 10:32 PM
They still do that in Verlaine in the LES.

ramvid01
April 21st, 2008, 10:42 PM
I went to a bar/restaurant in Queens on Saturday and they had done that lol.

Alonzo-ny
April 21st, 2008, 11:56 PM
Its amazing how fast it melts...

lesterp4
April 22nd, 2008, 12:37 AM
I have a western view of this tower and I noticed they are filling in the panels of the crown on the western side.

econ_tim
April 26th, 2008, 02:21 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2413/2442560394_dce35365eb_b.jpg

TREPYE
April 26th, 2008, 01:21 PM
This has to be one of the worst botch jobs in NYC architecture. The design of the building was so great the height, a spire the whole nine....until they decided the glass for the facade.


http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5849&d=1208282564
(Courtesy of lugdus)

The black and white horizontal stripes totally takes away from the light reflection contrast of the chamfers around the tower. What a retarded job on part of the architect.....total lack of imagination and foresight.

All the components to make an amazing NYC tower ruined into borderline mediocrity by the last ingredient.:(

stache
April 26th, 2008, 01:35 PM
so the building would not draw attention to itself.

ramvid01
April 26th, 2008, 01:57 PM
The lights are not on. There is no way to judge this building when it isn't even occuppied. After seeing some of the floors with lights on, this buildng is totally different. Just be patient.

Tectonic
April 26th, 2008, 02:23 PM
I agree, though a bit disappointed, I'm willing to wait a bit. I looks great in the morning light.

kz1000ps
April 26th, 2008, 05:50 PM
It looks good in overcast, too.

antinimby
April 26th, 2008, 10:13 PM
Before 1999, none of those glassy highrises existed including the tiny sliver of the Ivy condo tower that you see all the way on the right hand side of this photo.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2413/2442560394_dce35365eb_b.jpg

ablarc
April 26th, 2008, 10:53 PM
All the components to make an amazing NYC tower ruined into borderline mediocrity by the last ingredient.:(
Massing's also bad.

Alonzo-ny
April 27th, 2008, 06:18 PM
The massing is fine from N or S. When viewed on a diagonal the tower looks horribly fat.

TREPYE
April 28th, 2008, 12:15 AM
Massing's also bad.

Yea it tends to be on the pudgy side from north and south but that was driven by the space and height constraints of the building site...not much to be done there with those constraints. I think that the architect devised and ingenuous job in distracting that bulk by giving the shape some pizazz via the chamfers, which also notice coincidentally (or not) preserved the views of the tenants in the Conde Nast Tower. Solid colors, or reflective glass was the way to go with this towers shape not this zebra crap.


http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5849&d=1208282564http://www.dailyfacts.org/zebra%20facts.jpg
(Courtesy of lugdus)


:rolleyes:Dumb man...

MidtownGuy
April 28th, 2008, 12:26 AM
Yes, I hate the glass, it's so busy.

kz1000ps
April 28th, 2008, 12:49 AM
The glass does look horrible in that pic; direct sunlight does not show this tower favorably at all. But like I said on the previous page, I think it looks fine in overcast conditions.

NYGuy's pics show what I'm talking about:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729089/large.jpg

Of course, now you have the tower's bulk grabbing your attention in place of the fussy spandrel mess. Still, I prefer sleek bulk to fussy bulk.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729128/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729175/large.jpg

lesterp4
April 28th, 2008, 01:29 AM
I still say this building would look sooooooo much better if it was much thinner and taller.

NoyokA
April 28th, 2008, 01:35 AM
The same is true for most buildings.

stache
April 28th, 2008, 04:52 AM
And many people! :D

MidtownGuy
April 28th, 2008, 05:59 AM
you're right kz about the light, I just would have preferred glass that always looks good, like on Comcast in Philly. Now that's the perfect glass for this form. Of course they wanted frit here so that's where things get dicey if it isn't done in a subtle way. Anyhow, to be positive, I'm still thrilled by the wedge of light going up the corner. Can't wait to see it lighting up the sky around Bryant.

kliq6
April 29th, 2008, 01:12 PM
From what i have learned, if BOA was not the tenant it was to be thinner. BOA had specific requests for a number of the floors they took resulting in space increases. Its a nice addition but I have to admit it does not live up to the hype

Derek2k3
April 30th, 2008, 12:48 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/2423932902_c2a6f6d4dc_b.jpg
mudpig (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yukonblizzard/2423932902/)

BrooklynLove
April 30th, 2008, 02:16 PM
dope shot.

MidtownGuy
April 30th, 2008, 02:40 PM
Very interesting light.
Looks like green glass is all the rage.

stache
April 30th, 2008, 08:38 PM
I like how it's pointing towards Fifth Ave. :cool:

Matysiak
May 1st, 2008, 08:52 AM
Ultimate green skyscraper

Megastructures, showing April 17th on National Geographic at 9:00pm

http://i2.digiguide.com/up/1208462400-231190-Megastruct-12072130320.jpg
In the city that never sleeps, one architect's dream for a greener future has been realised. The One Bryant Park building in New York City is not only going to be the second tallest building in the city, but is set to be one of the most energy efficient skyscrapers in the world.
From recycled steel beams to recycling water, we examine the trials and triumphs of erecting a skyscraper whose blueprints just might map out a new design for the future construction of environmentally friendly skyscrapers around the world.
Preview courtesy of National Geographic

In Poland was yesterday on National Geographic. Worth to see, great infos about building.

brianac
May 6th, 2008, 08:03 AM
One Bryant Park Opens for Business

by Dana Rubinstein (http://www.observer.com/2008/author/dana-rubinstein) | May 5, 2008

http://origin.observer.com/files/imagecache/vertical/files/onebryantparkunderconstruction.jpg minwoo via flickr
One Bryant Park under construction last summer.

It was a bright new day at One Bryant Park this morning, when Bank of America employees showed up for their first day of work at the crystalline skyscraper on Sixth Avenue, between 42nd and 43rd streets.

The new 54-story skyscraper, also known as the Bank of America tower, unofficially opened for business, after developers secured a temporary certificate of occupancy at 5 p.m. on Friday.

Bank of America is the building's anchor tenant, with 1.6 million square feet, and its co-owner with the Durst Organizaton.

Four years after construction began, only the 37th floor remains empty in the new top-tier cloud-buster, which, however temporarily, is the city's second-tallest tower (http://www.observer.com/2007/my-what-big-spire-durst-s-one-bryant-park-become-city-s-second-tallest-building). Tenants include law firm Akin Gump, Al Gore's Generation Investment (http://www.observer.com/2007/al-gore-moving-douglas-durst-s-one-bryant-park), and Durst's offices.

The building will have an official opening, complete with the hoopla appropriate to the rise of a new Manhattan trophy, at some undetermined date in the future.

http://www.observer.com/2008/new-midtown-trophy-building-opens-business

© 2008 Observer Media Group,

scumonkey
May 8th, 2008, 07:44 PM
Pic of the new lobby from the new york observer!
http://origin.observer.com/files/imagecache/article/files/lobby%20with%20people.jpg

avm10
May 12th, 2008, 02:12 PM
Decent rendering, it looks pretty accurate, but if my memory serves me correctly, back when I was working on the project; the wall to the right of the escalators to BoA level 2, was supposed to be clad with leather panels. The stone on the core walls are darker as well with a big Bank of America logo on the stone

The wood panels on the ceiling are accurate and the lobby security desks and a bit more ornate then shown. I love the glazing fins (between the security desks and turnstiles to the core elevators. I'm thrilled to see the glass guards in between the turnstiles. It was a fun little area to detail :)

She's comin along!

scumonkey
May 12th, 2008, 02:47 PM
Decent rendering
Not a rendering -an actual photo.;)

avm10
May 12th, 2008, 02:53 PM
Serious? It does not look crisp and defined at all....first impression looks like a render.

scumonkey
May 12th, 2008, 03:24 PM
Serious?
yes!

JacobNYC
May 12th, 2008, 04:11 PM
That can't be a photo. I walk through the lobby almost every day and that looks nothing like the real deal. The core walls are a greyish slate and the lobby still doesn't receive that amount of sunlight due to the scaffolding. I think it is a combination of photographs and computer magic.

scumonkey
May 12th, 2008, 06:38 PM
So...... i went over to BOFA to get some pics for myself.
The first thing upon entering the lobby with a camera:
3 guards gang up on me and insist I either put the camera
away or leave!
After a bit of discussion I am told I can take pics from outside :rolleyes:
While taking the outside shots, another guard approached
me and a heated argument ensued. In the end I had
to run away before the cops came!:eek:
so here are the fruits of my labor....sorry that I did not
have a polarizing lens to remove the reflections-
I thought I would be on the other side of the glass!

here is one more or less from the same vantage as the
pic in dispute:
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/dscn0002-1.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN0003.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN0004.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN0001.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN0005.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN0007.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN0016.jpg

stache
May 12th, 2008, 08:42 PM
I like that irregular stone wall. :)

avm10
May 12th, 2008, 09:49 PM
Beautiful pictures, sorry for the trouble with the security guards. When I go this summer, I'm pretty sure they'll let me take pics...good ones ;)

The security desk and glazing fins came out amazing! I'm so happy...we detailed the heck out of those! :cool:

Thanks for taking those...the lobby looks so clean, I'm impressed. I wonder when they will light up the ceiling underneath the 2nd level mezz. The effect was supposed to be the same as the lobby at 7WTC.

antinimby
May 12th, 2008, 10:28 PM
They're probably worried about all that security/terrorism thing.

Like real terrorists are going to walk right into the lobby in broad daylight, take pics and then go back to analyze how best to blow up the place. :rolleyes:

Good job taking the pics despite the watchful eyes. :cool:

lugdus
May 12th, 2008, 11:37 PM
That can't be a photo. I walk through the lobby almost every day and that looks nothing like the real deal. The core walls are a greyish slate and the lobby still doesn't receive that amount of sunlight due to the scaffolding. I think it is a combination of photographs and computer magic.
That is an actual photo from The Observer.

stache
May 13th, 2008, 04:06 AM
lugdus, this makes sense. The paper probably doctored the photo up a little bit so it would look better on newsprint.

Tectonic
May 13th, 2008, 08:40 AM
I like that terra cotta wall again 4 Times Square.

Chrysler New Yorker
May 15th, 2008, 05:51 PM
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/scumonkey/DSCN0005.jpg

This photo reminds of Die Hard... the original of course. :rolleyes:

BrooklynRider
May 18th, 2008, 03:59 PM
It seems incredibly silly to descend on people who want to photograph a lobby that is entirely enclosed in glass and on view to anyone passing by.

scumonkey
May 18th, 2008, 04:40 PM
It seems incredibly silly to descend on people who want to photograph a lobby that is entirely enclosed in glass and on view to anyone passing by.Word!

Daquan13
May 22nd, 2008, 01:57 PM
Pic of the new lobby from the new york observer!
http://origin.observer.com/files/imagecache/article/files/lobby%20with%20people.jpg



Looks like the security turnstyles are here as well.:(

stache
May 22nd, 2008, 02:24 PM
Glass, to give the illusion that they do not exist. :p

kz1000ps
May 25th, 2008, 12:55 AM
kz made it in to the city today! Hope you don't mind a ton of pics :)

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2393/img7799xt0.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/792/img7805bc2.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2866/img7806ei4.jpg

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/117/img7807zq2.jpg

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/668/img7809my8.jpg

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/2015/img7810ya1.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5043/img7841lu3.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4997/img7842iu2.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4109/img7843mu2.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6696/img7847py8.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5114/img7846uk7.jpg

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9774/img7848lf8.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6112/img7849tt0.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/1337/img7851km2.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8586/img7850ft9.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/7641/img7853fj8.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2532/img7856ej9.jpg

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/108/img7857kv9.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1496/img7859dj2.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8843/img7860us1.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6454/img7861eq5.jpg

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6668/img7865ht5.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1673/img7869eb9.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7042/img7874tz8.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8566/img7876pg1.jpg

these last two are redundant, but I couldn't decide which I like more:

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1268/img7879gm0.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3248/img7889lz1.jpg

BrooklynLove
May 25th, 2008, 08:47 AM
ya know, i kind of like the contrast of the green box next store.

ablarc
May 25th, 2008, 03:07 PM
Overwrought and ultimately dull. (The building, not the pics.)

Jasonik
May 25th, 2008, 03:33 PM
I can't help seeing it as a poorly knife-sharpened split carpenter's pencil version of the Hancock Tower.

http://www.iboston.org/assets/photos/hancock.jpg + http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/cddfbc3b-72f6-4b10-a877-d5454e6e324a_4.jpg = http://www.urbanzeitgeist.com/images/BryantPark_170.jpg

Alonzo-ny
May 25th, 2008, 06:07 PM
Im sorry but there is no way this building is 'ultimately dull' the fact alone it is different from the norm makes that impossible.

lofter1
May 25th, 2008, 07:17 PM
I can't help seeing it as a poorly knife-sharpened split carpenter's pencil version of the Hancock Tower.

http://www.urbanzeitgeist.com/images/BryantPark_170.jpg

If only the vertical line on the west face of BA were an actual notch / indent ala Hancock.

But it's just a corner.

The shape of BA is somewhat akin to origami. Would have been more interesting with a some additional folds interrupting the surface.

(btw: the glass across the street at the old Verizon building has a much more interesting quality -- hard and glistening with great reflectivity -- if one can get past the green)

BrooklynLove
May 25th, 2008, 07:36 PM
(btw: the glass across the street at the old Verizon building has a much more interesting quality -- hard and glistening with great reflectivity -- if one can get past the green)

i really like the effect of the glass. and the color takes on an almost aquamarine hue at times depending on the light.

lofter1
May 25th, 2008, 08:16 PM
(Assuming you're talking about the re-clad glass) I'm with you on that ^ ...

It seems it's only when you view the glass straight on that the curtain wall takes on the famed dull green tinge. At certain times and from various angles the color changes from deep emerald to a watery blue-green.

Daquan13
May 26th, 2008, 05:55 AM
I can't help seeing it as a poorly knife-sharpened split carpenter's pencil version of the Hancock Tower.

http://www.iboston.org/assets/photos/hancock.jpg + http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/cddfbc3b-72f6-4b10-a877-d5454e6e324a_4.jpg = http://www.urbanzeitgeist.com/images/BryantPark_170.jpg



Only the Hancock Tower doesn't have a spire.

NYC4Life
May 26th, 2008, 06:14 AM
Best Midtown skyscraper built since Conde Nast

BrooklynLove
May 26th, 2008, 10:10 AM
(Assuming you're talking about the re-clad glass) I'm with you on that ^ ...

It seems it's only when you view the glass straight on that the curtain wall takes on the famed dull green tinge. At certain times and from various angles the color changes from deep emerald to a watery blue-green.

yep

Jasonik
May 26th, 2008, 12:27 PM
Only the Hancock Tower doesn't have a spire.

Aren't similes taught in school anymore? ;)

theWatusi
May 28th, 2008, 06:21 PM
Only the Hancock Tower doesn't have a spire.


hence the dull carpenter's pencil analogy

http://www.phillyblog.com/philly/images/smilies/aslappyslapslap.gif

Derek2k3
May 28th, 2008, 09:07 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/2512908056_84228dfc7f_b.jpg
mudpig (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yukonblizzard/)
Dozens of recent glass additions.
Check out the rest of his amazing gallery here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/yukonblizzard/sets/72157604902279170/

kz1000ps
May 28th, 2008, 09:50 PM
If it hasn't become abundantly clear by now, all WNY forumers should be checking out pmarella's and mudpig's photostreams at least once a week. Those guys RAWK.

NYC4Life
May 28th, 2008, 09:50 PM
Just imagine that shot with the Hudson Yards complete :rolleyes:

JCMAN320
May 29th, 2008, 12:09 AM
That shot is from either Columbus Tower or Trump Tower here in Jersey City. Great shots.

Jeter
June 4th, 2008, 03:56 PM
Here are a few more shots of the lobby and tower...

antinimby
June 5th, 2008, 02:31 AM
Nice but too empty. Need some furniture and plants.

Weren't they suppose to have trees in there also?

lofter1
June 5th, 2008, 08:07 AM
I think the trees are set for the lobby section at the SW corner of 43rd / Sixth (NE corner of the building) -- where the building bumps out north of the new subway entrances.

The Benniest
June 5th, 2008, 11:36 AM
If it hasn't become abundantly clear by now, all WNY forumers should be checking out pmarella's and mudpig's photostreams at least once a week. Those guys RAWK.
I agree. Although I enjoy looking at any NYC pictures, you're right, mudpig and pmaarella definitely stick out.

avm10
June 5th, 2008, 12:56 PM
The Urban Garden room along 6th avenue is supposed to have trees in it, IIRC its closer to 43rd, but definitely along 6th Avenue, lofter is correct.

Any pictures of the subway enclosure on 42nd and 6th yet?

The building looks way better when out of direct sunlight, I really like image 3 that Jeter posted.

The Benniest
June 5th, 2008, 01:18 PM
I agree with your comment about how cool it looks when it's not in direct sunlight. Because when it's in direct sunlight we get this (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showpost.php?p=227573&postcount=2882). Yuck.

And kz1000ps, thank you for that set of wonderful pictures.

lofter1
June 5th, 2008, 09:31 PM
Rising tall ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_63c.jpg

The 43rd Street entry to the block-through passageway ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_64b.jpg

Bollards in all along 42nd Street ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_64e.jpg

Two choices for what to call this one ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_64c.jpg

1bp

avm10
June 6th, 2008, 10:56 PM
We always called it One Bryant Park. When you're busting away on drawings and such its hard to relate the building to its prime tenant. I'm glad ONE BRYANT PARK is featured more prominently.

Beautiful pictures Lofter...thanks.

FWIW, I can't wait til they pull the scaffolding away from the HMT historical facade, it will be great to see that old facade, canopy and marquee against the new c/w glazing.

antinimby
June 6th, 2008, 11:03 PM
That makes sense (that they use 'One Bryant Park') since tenants come and go and are not permanent.

On another note...why is it taking them seemingly forever to finish up the last bit of work on the building (top, boarded up windows, the theatre, the passageway, etc.)?

scumonkey
June 7th, 2008, 12:37 AM
^hmmmmm could it be those are all NON money making features? :rolleyes:

NYC4Life
June 7th, 2008, 01:19 AM
^Perhaps they're still looking for a tenant to be housed 900 feet up :)

Tectonic
June 7th, 2008, 09:22 PM
I was told in October the passageway was supposed to be ready for a special occasion in April. They surely didn't make it. Those terracotta pieces are small.

nykid17
June 7th, 2008, 10:28 PM
Not too much progress on this one, still waiting for the last touches on the crown are finnished, though they were working on the ground floor where the trees 'should' be placed.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2141/2559221881_ce5299d5c4_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27467028@N06/2559221881/) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3039/2559221887_b5e44030ff_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27467028@N06/2559221887/)
[/URL] [URL="http://www.flickr.com/photos/27467028@N06/2559221905/"]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3098/2559221905_8113b85e91_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27467028@N06/2559221891/) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2559221891_51acc3b731_b.jpg

DMAG
June 10th, 2008, 09:31 PM
I had two meetings in midtown today (in the Viacom building then over at 888 7th). I walked past BoA (between heatstrokes). I was very surprised at how short (perhaps that's not a good term for a 1200 foot bulding...perhaps not a standout amongst other buildings in height) it looked.

I'm also a bit wishy-washy on the cladding. The frosted windows really make the entire building look almost blurry. It's a pretty cool effect, but weird on the eyes as well.

BUT, it is an impressive structure. I took a couple shots on my Treo (hence the questionable quality). It is much less chunky looking in person.

nykid17
June 10th, 2008, 10:33 PM
42nd-43rd passageway coming along
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/2568606183_d0b9e8599c.jpg?v=0
Looking up
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2568606175_64716d9392.jpg?v=0

Alonzo-ny
June 10th, 2008, 11:31 PM
God that is just awful architecture. We dont know how to handle the context (which we designed) so we will throw up a wall on it and then respond to that. badly. The connection doesnt work with either building! Why the bright colour?

philvia
June 11th, 2008, 09:52 PM
maybe its supposed to be seen as its own area, and not part of either building beside it... personally, i like the color :)

kliq6
June 12th, 2008, 12:13 PM
I had two meetings in midtown today (in the Viacom building then over at 888 7th). I walked past BoA (between heatstrokes). I was very surprised at how short (perhaps that's not a good term for a 1200 foot bulding...perhaps not a standout amongst other buildings in height) it looked.

I'm also a bit wishy-washy on the cladding. The frosted windows really make the entire building look almost blurry. It's a pretty cool effect, but weird on the eyes as well.

BUT, it is an impressive structure. I took a couple shots on my Treo (hence the questionable quality). It is much less chunky looking in person.

Its only 1200 if you go to antenna point, its really only 950 feet to top of the tower

antinimby
June 19th, 2008, 03:15 AM
Finally there is some visible progress on the Henry Miller Theatre restoration portion of this project (photo via curbed (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/06/18/curbedwire_henry_miller_theater_facade_is_back_cit y_celebrates_first_willets_point_deal.php#reader_c omments)) :

http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_06_Henry%20Miller%20Theater.jpg

nykid17
June 19th, 2008, 10:16 PM
went by the site today, so mad my camera died, apparently it had been dead all day. Well anyway, the subway station is looking about done; it's encased in glass and all, someone should go get some pix of it seein g as i wont be down there until saturdayagain maybe. Thanx

Derek2k3
June 23rd, 2008, 02:02 AM
Wish it wasn't so hazy.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3083/2603445760_aee548439e_o.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3254/2603445764_761e534b47_o.jpg


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NYC4Life
June 23rd, 2008, 04:12 AM
The effect of skyscraper construction in the last few years has made Midtown even more incredible. Those wide angle shots do it no justice.

kliq6
June 23rd, 2008, 04:56 PM
That picture above speaks volumes on this tower. Its says its 1200 but its not even close to the size of ESB which is 1250. Site size is a disapointment

USSManhattan
June 23rd, 2008, 05:58 PM
I went by the site Friday and saw a nice little station entrance for the BDFV and 7... it was the first time I've seen it, how long has it been there?

stache
June 23rd, 2008, 06:03 PM
Was it open for business?

Alonzo-ny
June 23rd, 2008, 06:30 PM
That picture above speaks volumes on this tower. Its says its 1200 but its not even close to the size of ESB which is 1250. Site size is a disapointment

I agree, i looks tiny compared to the ESB.

USSManhattan
June 23rd, 2008, 09:42 PM
Was it open for business?

I don't think so, it looked like it was behind barricades. I'd just never noticed before and wondered how recent it was.

stache
June 24th, 2008, 03:16 AM
They've been working on it for a year or so. I can't remember if there was a smaller subway entrance on that corner before.

nykid17
June 29th, 2008, 01:37 AM
Really thought someone else would get these pictures, but yea, here they are. Not sure if it's in use yet, but heres the (glass-clad) subway station-
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/2619524075_d09d47210d.jpg?v=0 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/2619524079_d76e8cc427.jpg?v=0

antinimby
June 29th, 2008, 08:09 AM
nykid17, all you had to do was to go down those steps to know if the station was opened or not. ;)

Surprisingly narrow stairway for a supposedly very busy part of town.

BrooklynRider
June 29th, 2008, 10:49 AM
I was thinking the same thing.

Where ever possible, subways should have a double stairway. Kind of silly not to install one at a new entrance. I do like the glass canopy. Hope these become the new norm. We got new newspaper vending booths. now, we can use something that actually benefits the public-at-large.

Tectonic
June 29th, 2008, 11:03 AM
Hmm maybe they didn't have the room for it, for some reason.

lofter1
June 29th, 2008, 12:05 PM
When I was there two days ago the stairs were blocked off.

That is just one of two new Subway accessible stairways in front of BA ... the other one faces the opposite direction and deposits folks onto the sidewalk at midblock along Sixth (where the BA tower juts out at the NE side).

It looks as if there will be an additional Subway entrance on 42nd ...

From the DURST site (http://www.durst.org/i_bpl_news.asp):

Public Amenities

With approximately three times the public circulation space required by an as-of-right high-rise office building, the Bank of America Tower will accommodate and contribute to the surrounding pedestrian and transit circulation. Public amenities will include widened sidewalks, public street furniture and an urban garden room located at 43 rd Street and Sixth Avenue, which serves as an inviting extension of Bryant Park.

The design also incorporates a new glass-enclosed subway entrance with wider stairs and an elevator at 42nd Street on the southeast corner of Sixth Avenue. An underground pedestrian walkway on the north side of 42nd Street will link the B, D and F subway lines to the Times Square station and a new mid-block subway entrance on 42nd Street will connect to the below-grade walkway, in addition to a special through-block passageway featuring a “Broadway Wall of Fame” with interactive information kiosks.

Amenities

Public Space


3X the public circulation space of an as-of-right high-rise office building on this site
Below-grade pedestrian walkway linking the B, D and F subway lines to Times Square station
New glass-enclosed dual-stair Subway entrance at 42 nd Street and 6 th Avenue
Mid-block Subway entrance located at 42 nd Street and the through-block connection
Widened sidewalks
Public street furniture
Urban Garden Room located at 43 rd Street and 6 th Avenue, serving as an inviting extension of Bryant Park and Grace Plaza

ramvid01
June 29th, 2008, 12:24 PM
Surprisingly narrow stairway for a supposedly very busy part of town.

To be honest those could be a double wide stairway, however the height of the canopy may throw off the sense of scale and thus make it look narrower.

scumonkey
June 29th, 2008, 12:38 PM
I thought the same thing but then I remembered....
Double wides have a hand rail in the middle.

lofter1
June 29th, 2008, 12:49 PM
The new ones here are definitely not double wides.

I use that station all the time -- there are multiple exits on either side of Sixth from 42nd down to 40th plus the passageways. I rarely get boxed in on the stairs there, unlike some other heinous stations entrances (but that might be due to the chick standing midway up, yakking on her cell phone :mad: ).

antinimby
June 29th, 2008, 01:15 PM
... and wearing shorts and flip-flops.

It's amazing how casually-dressed an environment Manhattan has become.

It used to be that you never see folks wearing shorts and flip-flops in Midtown.

TREPYE
June 30th, 2008, 12:00 AM
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Why, why, oh why couldnt they just connect it to the TS station?? They erected a 1200 foot tower why couldnt they just merge the station next to it that couldnt have been more than 50 feet away from this new one.

ramvid01
June 30th, 2008, 12:22 AM
^^ Isn't that part of the plan with the construction of this building? I remember reading they would build a passage way from the TS station all the way to the Bryant Park station.

TREPYE
June 30th, 2008, 12:27 AM
The new station sinage does not include any of the TS subway lines.

Tectonic
June 30th, 2008, 01:06 AM
^^ Isn't that part of the plan with the construction of this building? I remember reading they would build a passage way from the TS station all the way to the Bryant Park station.

I was told back in October that was is heavily dependent on the MTA. Nuff said, lol.

lofter1
June 30th, 2008, 09:46 AM
The passageway was built -- during construction of the foundation the sub-grade work along 42nd Streeet could be seen.

Now the question is whether or not the MTA can figure out how to knock a hole through to the TS Station and make the passageway accessible within our lifetimes.

ttbims
July 1st, 2008, 11:42 PM
ive been working on this project with tishman for about a little over 2 years and i was told that the tunnel from the TS station to the bryant park station wouldnt be completed in my lifetime due to the fact that a law firm has the space leased under four times square for a very long time and they arent willing to negotiate a decent enough price

BrooklynLove
July 2nd, 2008, 08:25 AM
^ which law firm?

econ_tim
July 2nd, 2008, 09:07 AM
^ which law firm?

i would guess skadden

Alonzo-ny
July 2nd, 2008, 10:16 AM
Why is a law firm renting basement space?

stache
July 2nd, 2008, 11:21 AM
Storage?

lofter1
July 2nd, 2008, 11:36 AM
Now this would be another case where a type of Eminent Domain is needed and viable.

Some well connected law firm can hold up a public project that will serve hundreds of thousands of NYers because they control a needed bit of property?

Take it.

Zoe
July 2nd, 2008, 02:27 PM
Yeah good luck. That isn't any ordinary law firm, Skadden is not only one of the 5 largest in the world, they are also the most profitable and 4 TS is their world headquarters...

antinimby
July 2nd, 2008, 03:33 PM
This doesn't make any sense. How would the subway station underground passages ever need to encroach on private property?

I thought they were mostly under the streets and sidewalks.

stache
July 2nd, 2008, 04:04 PM
Or they could stick the tunnel under the other side of 42nd. St., going from the shuttle area to the IND line on 6th.

BrooklynLove
July 2nd, 2008, 08:37 PM
re skadden - makes no sense - they lease space in the conde nast building.

producer
July 3rd, 2008, 09:05 AM
The subway connection is dependent on MTA's capital budget to provide funds to shorten the shuttle which now curves around 4TS and blocks the connection. Skadden is required to relocate their basement space when MTA is ready to proceed. This project is not included in MTA's long term capital budget and is not likely to happen any time soon.

Optimus Prime
July 3rd, 2008, 09:14 AM
Thanks, producer. That makes sense.

For those asking why a law firm needs basement space anyway, it's generally for copy and mail services. That stuff can't be offsited like, say, accounting or media relations. I haven't seen Skadden's offices but I would imagine that's what they have in the basement.

Maybe MTA could have been more proactive when 4TS was being built? I guess it's always a question of available capital, though.

TonyO
July 3rd, 2008, 01:22 PM
Today, July 3rd.

NYC4Life
July 4th, 2008, 02:26 AM
This building is so massive and tall, it is visible all the way up to the Bronx on a clear day.

autumnsun
July 15th, 2008, 05:40 PM
3 spires with Bank of America's in the middle. Taken from Central Park just north of the sheep meadow.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3237/2672430556_dbff4b6e48_b.jpg

NYC4Life
July 15th, 2008, 06:24 PM
Keep in mind though, the only one of the three that's an actual spire is the Bank of America Tower. The other two (Conde Nast and ESB both are antenna masts. The NY Times Building (not pictured) also has a spire.

Alonzo-ny
July 15th, 2008, 06:39 PM
Splitting hairs in this instance pretty much.

producer
July 16th, 2008, 12:28 AM
ESB and 4TS both have working antenae while 1BP is purely an architectural element

stache
July 16th, 2008, 02:57 AM
Splitting spires?

195Broadway
July 16th, 2008, 11:41 AM
Why is a law firm renting basement space?

I thought it obvious,...They are bottom feeders! :rolleyes:

Having read through a good chunk of this thread last night, I really enjoyed the commentary and photos, especially that of the light fixure in the box. All the child-like enthusiasm really shined through. Bravo!

I must say, The building really stood out during the visit with my son this past month. We both LOVE it. Keep in mind, we knew NOTHING about it at the time.
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/195Broadway/DSC04929.jpg?t=1216218746
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/195Broadway/DSC04928.jpg?t=1216218822
(I'm wearing my brother's shirt)

Thank you all, for an informative thread! :)

Sean and Steven

econ_tim
July 18th, 2008, 05:47 PM
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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/2680896328_3e2752e6e0_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/2680077677_cb0ea9f441_b.jpg

DarrylStrawberry
July 18th, 2008, 06:57 PM
great pictures econ_tim. thanks.

NYC4Life
July 18th, 2008, 07:30 PM
This is looking even better.

lofter1
July 18th, 2008, 08:44 PM
Although still covered with scaffolding, the new subway entrance here on Sixth north of W 42nd has opened ...

The guy in the booth down below told me that the passageway to Times Square is complete (there's some blue-painted plywood blocking off a section in the new station) and all they need to do is knock a hole in the wall at the west end and then clean up the edges there to make it useable -- but he has no idea when that might happen.

This new section of the station is very roomy, but nothing all that special -- some stairs, lots of white tile, and an elevator not yet in service (no surprise there) ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_67a.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_67b.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_67d.jpg

Around the corner on W 43rd the old and oddly titled "The Henry Miller's Theatre" is getting a scrub ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_67e.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_67g.jpg

Some new detail has been added over the passageway / loading zone of the building at the far west end where it meets 4 Times Square ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_67i.jpg

1bp

BrooklynLove
July 18th, 2008, 09:34 PM
Although still covered with scaffolding, the new subway entrance here on Sixth north of W 42nd has opened ...

I love fresh meat.

stache
July 18th, 2008, 09:37 PM
Huh?

BrooklynLove
July 18th, 2008, 09:39 PM
Analogize to new car smell euphoria.

philvia
July 18th, 2008, 10:59 PM
thanks for the pics!
interested in seeing more of the subway ;)

meesalikeu
July 22nd, 2008, 04:58 AM
i walked around there the other day and took the exact same pics. maybe i'll post them maybe not, they are nothing new here. the 'build around' of the miller theater was unexpected -- i wasn't paying attention to this project lately, had not been around there in awhile and certainly did not think any new construction would phase me-- but i got surprized and have to admit that really freaked me out! :eek:

Jim856796
July 26th, 2008, 04:24 AM
Will the old Henry Miller's Theatre remain a theatre after its restoration or be converted into something else?

stache
July 26th, 2008, 08:57 AM
It will remain a theater.

lofter1
July 26th, 2008, 11:52 AM
Apparently the Roundabout Theater Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Miller's_Theatre) has added The HMT to it's list of venues

antinimby
July 26th, 2008, 08:17 PM
The inside of the restored Henry Miller Theatre should look something like this:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/05/10/arts/Miller600.jpg
source: NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/10/theater/10roun.html)

lofter1
July 26th, 2008, 08:41 PM
Interesting how they have re-configured the theater space so that the stage and the majority of the auditiorium are now below grade. As can be seen in the rendering the top of the new proscenium arch is almost on line with the sidewalk outside.

Originally the orchestra seats were at street level (the top of the balcony in the new theater is in that position). The original balcony was near the level of the new ceiling (and was accessed by the upper lobby, which is now configured to be what looks like a party space, seen at upper left).

Normally large doors would open from the back stage onto the street / sidealk to allow for load-in of scenery. From the rendering it's not clear how that aspect of the theater has been configured.

scumonkey
July 26th, 2008, 09:01 PM
How about from the upper side of the stage-through the loading dock, lowered into place.:confused:

avm10
July 29th, 2008, 10:52 PM
which is now configured to be what looks like a party space, seen at upper left

Intended to a be a restaurant for a tenant unrelated to Roundabout.

Good question about bringing props etc in, as there is no theoretical "back door" loading area. I suppose thats the challenge for any producer that rents out the building.

antinimby
July 29th, 2008, 11:09 PM
^ Maybe the "backdoor" loading space is on the eastern side of the theatre, that may not be obvious (or even included) in that rendering.

lofter1
July 29th, 2008, 11:58 PM
Big loading doors have been installed on the east wall of the block-through passageway / truck zone between 42nd & 43rd. Perhaps there are huge truck elevators there as well. I had first assumed that this passageway was purely for freight and theater load-in (and not a pedestrian passageway with entry to the theater & exhibition space) but now I have no idea what they're doing here :confused:

stache
July 30th, 2008, 01:59 AM
I'm taking a wild guess that they will back trucks into the passageway and offload the scenery etc. from there, which should be interesting as they would have to maneuver a 90 degree angle.

avm10
July 30th, 2008, 03:27 PM
Yes! thats correct, there is also a rather large freight elevator adjacent to the Thru-Block passage! Its been a while so I forget these things :rolleyes:

TREPYE
July 30th, 2008, 08:49 PM
ive been working on this project with tishman for about a little over 2 years and i was told that the tunnel from the TS station to the bryant park station wouldnt be completed in my lifetime due to the fact that a law firm has the space leased under four times square for a very long time and they arent willing to negotiate a decent enough price

There is a tunnel already there, the third track from the shuttle train which is a redundancy. Could very easily clean it up an use it as a connection to the Bryant park station. But that could make too much sense.

scumonkey
August 12th, 2008, 12:38 PM
CurbedWire: Falling Glass at BofA Tower (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/08/12/curbedwire_falling_glass_at_bofa_tower.php) http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_08_boa_glass.jpg
Screen grab courtesy of WABC (http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6322071), 11:22 AM
MIDTOWN WEST—From a tipster: "Our office just got this email alert. I'm still inside but will venture out to see what happens... 'Please note that 42nd Street is closed off between Broadway and Sixth Avenue. This is due to some glass panes falling from the Bank of America building onto the Verizon scaffolding.'"
UPDATE 11:11AM: Per ABC7 (http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6322071), "A large paine of glass fell from a high rise building under construction in Midtown Manhattan. The glass fell from the Bank of America building at 1 Bryant Park, according to police. It fell across the street onto scaffolding surrounding the Verizon building. No injuries were immediately reported."
UPDATE 11:20AM: 1010 WINS is now on the story (http://www.1010wins.com/2-Hurt-after-Glass-Falls-from-Midtown-Building/2771258), reports two minor injuries. And, on the ground, from blogger That's What She Said (http://lfarm.tumblr.com/post/45677758/geez): "Firetrucks, ambulances, it’s a mess. I can’t tell if anyone got hurt, but I don’t think so. It just happened, so if you’re in the area, you should go look. 42nd between 6th and Broadway is covered in glass."