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Alonzo-ny
August 12th, 2008, 02:14 PM
Again? Is this the year of deja vu?

NYC4Life
August 12th, 2008, 03:20 PM
NY1

Glass Shards Rain Down From Midtown Construction Site

http://media.ny1.com/media/2008/8/12/images/lg_glass_building7c4270e5-4225-496c-a01c-e39853311b54.jpg

Shards of glass rained down this morning from a building under construction near Bryant Park, shutting down streets and causing major congestion.

A window pane being installed at the Bank of America building at 1 Bryant Park on 42nd Street came loose, crashing into another pane, before falling onto the scaffolding below.

No major injuries have been reported at this hour, but the cleanup has closed West 42nd Street between Sixth Avenue and Broadway, Seventh Avenue at West 54th Street, and all lanes of Sixth Avenue between 34th and 42nd Street.

One person was treated on the scene for a minor injury.

Witnesses say that the Fire Department is pushing everyone into Bryant Park so that it can knock down a couple more panes of glass so they do not fall down on their own.

antinimby
August 12th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Another SWO, another six months added to the finish date.

So what's new?

lofter1
August 12th, 2008, 07:35 PM
Good thing the pane hit the south slope ... the angle sent the glass careening all the way across 42nd Street.

The faceted design probably saved some lives.

antinimby
August 12th, 2008, 09:40 PM
Or more importantly, they didn't take down the sidewalk sheds across the street at 1095 yet.

Tectonic
August 12th, 2008, 11:30 PM
Oh Boy:rolleyes:

rirby
August 12th, 2008, 11:42 PM
I am just relieved that this overweight, hulking, krude, klunky, konfused, kludge of hideous design is not in a more prominent site. We need some sort of tribunal for the architects and developers of this building... O.K. I'm
better now....

RandySavage
August 13th, 2008, 03:36 AM
From the right angle and light, it can impress.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/2665143451_f6ca333acf_o.jpg
credit: http://www.flickr.com/photos/guyeppel/

scumonkey
August 13th, 2008, 11:57 AM
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/misc/nytlogo153x23.gif (http://www.nytimes.com/)

At a Midtown Intersection, Another Sheet of Glass Falls

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/08/13/nyregion/13glass_600.jpg Patrick Andrade for The New York Times
The glass panel that dropped more than 50 floors from the Bank of America building onto a sidewalk shed on Tuesday morning.


By CHRISTINE HAUSER (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/h/christine_hauser/index.html?inline=nyt-per)

Published: August 12, 2008
If the sound of the 1,500-pound glass panel that plummeted from a tower onto the covered sidewalk shed sounded familiar to anyone near 42nd Street and Avenue of the Americas on Tuesday morning, there was good reason — it was the second time in recent months that a sheet of glass had dropped onto that intersection.

(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/nyregion/13glass.htm?_r=1&oref=slogin#secondParagraph)http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/08/13/nyregion/13glass02_190.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:pop_me_up2%28%27http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2008/08/13/nyregion/13glass_CA0.ready.html%27,%20%2713glass_CA0_ready% 27,%20%27width=720,height=600,scrollbars=yes,toolb ars=no,resizable=yes%27%29) Patrick Andrade for The New York Times
A window on a lower floor of the Bank of America’s tower was broken; it was uncertain if it had been hit by the falling glass.



At 10:30 a.m. Tuesday, the floor-to-ceiling-size glass panel, encased in a metal frame, fell more than 50 stories from the Bank of America building and shattered on a shed on the opposite side of 42nd Street, officials said.
Two people, whose names were not released, suffered minor injuries. One man was taken to Bellevue Hospital Center complaining of an injured leg, Fire Department officials said, and another person was taken to St. Luke’s-Roosevelt Hospital Center (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/s/st_lukes-roosevelt_hospital_center/index.html?inline=nyt-org) with injuries that were not disclosed.
James Dean (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/d/james_dean/index.html?inline=nyt-per), 47, who had been in the park near the library when the glass panel fell, said: ”I thought it was an explosion,” adding, “It sounded like steel, not glass, hitting the ground.”
“I walked out onto the street and saw chunks of glass as far in as the newsstand, chunks of glass the size of my fist,” he said.
A mason at the Bank of America building, who gave only his first name, Dave, said he was under the street-level scaffolding when the glass hit. “I heard it raining down,” he said. “I didn’t know what it was.”
Richard M. Kielar, a spokesman for Tishman Construction, the construction manager for the project, said the panel, which had been stored on the 51st floor of the building, fell when it was in the process of being put into place with a winch. “It was being taken off the building and being lowered into position,” he said. A window on a floor in the low 40s was broken, but it was not immediately clear whether it was from the falling panel or debris, he said.
Kate Lindquist, a spokeswoman for the Department of Buildings, which was investigating the accident, said a stop-work order was issued for work on the exterior of the building and on the floors that have yet to be enclosed with the panels.
Three citations were issued to Tishman Construction: failure to safeguard the public and property, failure to maintain vertical netting and failure to provide a second means of exit at and above the 53rd floor, Ms. Lindquist said.
Asked about the violations, Mr. Kielar, who is also a senior vice president, said, “These will be addressed immediately.”
The 54-story Bank of America building, 1 Bryant Park, is in the final stage of completion, and is occupied through the 29th floor, Mr. Kielar said.
In April, also on a weekday morning, much of a 4-by-8-foot panel fell from a 27th-floor window from the old Verizon Building at 1095 Avenue of the Americas. No injuries were reported in that accident.
Since 2006, material has fallen from the Bank of America building site six times, said Ms. Lindquist, including Tuesday’s accident. Two cases involved broken glass from panels, she said.
One accident, on Oct. 17, 2007, in which eight people suffered minor injuries, involved a bucket of debris that fell 53 stories.
Tina Kelley contributed reporting.

antinimby
August 14th, 2008, 06:05 AM
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wyliepoon (http://flickr.com/photos/wyliepoon/2762144208/)

BrooklynLove
August 14th, 2008, 01:53 PM
I think that the contrast of the Verizon building (color, height and form) works suprisingly nicely alongside the BofA tower.

GordonGecko
August 14th, 2008, 03:19 PM
I think that the contrast of the Verizon building (color, height and form) works suprisingly nicely alongside the BofA tower.

It's still ugly. Any green tinted windows just remind me of tacky and faded glass from the 70ies. Not my taste

ItstheBeat
August 14th, 2008, 05:22 PM
What really bother's me about the new Verizon facade are those... grey idk.. air vents? about halfway up. Why do they have to be soo grey and prominent? Other than that i actually don't mind the green glass. Any darker would have been too green. Besides how many blue glass or mirrored glass buildings do we need. They took a chance and it stands out.

Fabrizio
August 14th, 2008, 07:18 PM
Look how wonderful the BOA tower looks in RandySavage's photo up above. The lighting gives it a blued-grey color... far from it's true color, but notice how elegant it looks. Rather than standing out, it blends right in.

In fact, the tone-on-tone coloring in the photo makes that group of buildings look especially Gotham-esque. The whole is harmonious. I'll take that somber dignity over bright&cheery any day.

lofter1
August 14th, 2008, 07:42 PM
The colors in that shot are fairly close to how things appear on a cloudy day.

londonlawyer
August 14th, 2008, 09:44 PM
Gents:

As I am no longer in NY, can someone tell me the status of the new facade of the building on the west side of 6th around 40th Street? When I left at the end of June, its facade was being taken off and presumably new glass was going to be applied.

Thanks.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3241/2762144208_5b7998ba2f_b.jpg

antinimby
August 14th, 2008, 10:39 PM
It's not in that picture but the one you are talking about is 1041 Sixth. The thread is here (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17642).

londonlawyer
August 14th, 2008, 11:15 PM
Gracias, amigo.

Do you know the status of the project?

antinimby
August 14th, 2008, 11:35 PM
They're taking the whole thing down.

londonlawyer
August 14th, 2008, 11:43 PM
Superb!!!

Alonzo-ny
August 15th, 2008, 05:36 AM
I hate the way the glass changes at the top of the BOA at the crown.

Optimus Prime
August 15th, 2008, 10:39 AM
The Verizon skin looks fantastic from street level. The sky views are disappointing because of the ugly roof, but looking up at the building it's really pretty nice.

My only issue with it is the stupid window shades, which look really cheap. Should have sprung for one of those fancy automated systems.

Derek2k3
August 15th, 2008, 12:51 PM
I hate the way the glass changes at the top of the BOA at the crown.

Same here, it reminds me of the change in the Bloomberg Tower. You expect lighter more transparent glass, but instead, it gets greenish, milky, and opaque.

MidtownGuy
August 15th, 2008, 01:00 PM
Another horrible choice.

Tectonic
August 17th, 2008, 08:54 AM
Looking sharp
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/2769976571_2024d613c4.jpg?v=0

stache
August 17th, 2008, 09:38 AM
It looks like it's going to have a white grillwork fringe along the top.

Derek2k3
August 17th, 2008, 11:33 AM
Yea, that's what I was thinking also.

Citytect
August 17th, 2008, 12:41 PM
French manicure?

CoolCzech
August 17th, 2008, 02:19 PM
There's a recent pic posted over at skyscraperpage.com that shows a lot of ugly masonry and machinery inside the crown... stuff probably best hidden.

antinimby
August 18th, 2008, 01:52 AM
Like its architecture or not, it's already become a fixture of the New York skyline and a recognizable landmark...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3200/2769659780_5d693720d5_o.jpg
jschumacher (http://flickr.com/photos/jschumacher/2769659780/)

NYC4Life
August 18th, 2008, 02:16 PM
The Midtown skyline looks amazingly small there :rolleyes:

antinimby
August 19th, 2008, 12:57 AM
Explanation for the cause of the glass accident last week. From the NY Times today (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/nyregion/18fall.html)...


...In a statement on Friday about Tuesday’s accident, Tishman Construction, the project manager for the Bank of America building, said it appeared that the panel had become lodged at the building’s edges on the 51st floor as it was being raised and positioned by a winch operated from several floors above on the roof.

The winch kept pulling even though the window was stuck, until the cables threaded through the holes in the panel’s aluminum frame broke through the frame itself, the statement said. The panel then fell onto the top of the passageway on the south side of 42nd Street.

The Buildings Department issued three violations. Richard Kielar, a spokesman for Tishman, said on Friday that the company would have someone on site monitoring future panel installations. It has also asked the manufacturer of the winch to add a sensor that would detect loads that are too heavy.

He noted that more than 9,400 panels had already been put into place safely, but that “any incident is unacceptable to us.”

antinimby
August 19th, 2008, 01:00 AM
How about having the workmen guiding the window on the 51st floor walkie-talkie the operator of the winch and tell him to stop raising it once the window become stuck?

Duh.

No need for a sensor. That'll just be more things waiting to malfunction and go wrong.

195Broadway
August 19th, 2008, 10:41 AM
Yeah, a spotter with a walkie-talkie and a cheap Sears telescope would do the trick.
I'm just glad no one was hurt.

econ_tim
August 22nd, 2008, 12:55 PM
you can spot several projects in this shot from RFCGRAPHICS on skyscraper city:



http://www.pbase.com/rfcd100/image/101755081/original.jpg
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Dac150
August 22nd, 2008, 12:59 PM
Beautiful shot.

NYC4Life
August 22nd, 2008, 03:04 PM
Stunning, but even in that shot, BOA gets lost. Only the spire sticks out amongst the density of Midtown.

lofter1
August 23rd, 2008, 02:22 AM
Getting the finishing touches ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_703.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_709.jpg

1bp

CoolCzech
August 23rd, 2008, 10:59 AM
Getting the finishing touches ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_703.jpg


1bp

Finally! It always forever for the crowns of major towers to get done these days, it seems - the NY Times tower was the same way.

CoolCzech
August 23rd, 2008, 11:00 AM
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_709.jpg

I'm glad they preserved the theatre facade; it's a nifty little piece of architecture.

stache
August 23rd, 2008, 11:22 AM
That place used to be WILD!

lofter1
August 23rd, 2008, 01:32 PM
Please feel free to expand on the WILDNESS ... :cool:

BrooklynLove
August 23rd, 2008, 01:36 PM
How about having the workmen guiding the window on the 51st floor walkie-talkie the operator of the winch and tell him to stop raising it once the window become stuck?

Duh.

No need for a sensor. That'll just be more things waiting to malfunction and go wrong.

Just goes to show - all the site inspections in the world aren't going to prevent stupidity.

ZippyTheChimp
August 23rd, 2008, 04:32 PM
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/1439/boa59cyh0.th.jpg (http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa59cyh0.jpg)

Derek2k3
August 23rd, 2008, 04:43 PM
^Cool

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/2790491490_e046bf398d_o.jpg
yesterday...

They have also started to light that sliced edge of BofA at night. It's interior lit floor by floor. I didn't have my camera then but when I passed by they only had 5 or so floors lit.

stache
August 23rd, 2008, 07:08 PM
Please feel free to expand on the WILDNESS ... :cool:

Well, I came upon this venue a little late in the game but I went to a few AIDS fundraisers/drag pageants there. At the last of this kind of event, the club managers double booked the joint with a buppie event (without telling anyone beforehand) and it became 'war of the bling'. ;) One of my coworkers told me that back in the bad old days this place was an XXX theater and Robert Reed (father in 'Brady Bunch') essentially lived in the balcony, method acting for a Hoover, no doubt. :eek: Marsha Marsha Marsha!

lofter1
August 23rd, 2008, 08:15 PM
Did you ever catch the episode of Streets of San Francisco where she played a teen-age hooker?

stache
August 23rd, 2008, 08:28 PM
I wonder if it's on Utube?

James Kovata
August 23rd, 2008, 10:44 PM
That is a great shot. Bank of America is more prominent in the skyline than I thought it would be, and it should be even more prominent once the crown is finished.

antinimby
August 23rd, 2008, 11:00 PM
They have also started to light that sliced edge of BofA at night. It's interior lit floor by floor. I didn't have my camera then but when I passed by they only had 5 or so floors lit.What sliced edge?

That would be great if they did some exterior lighting on this tower.

Alonzo-ny
August 24th, 2008, 07:20 AM
I believe he is refering to the area where we all thought that it was an atrium of some kind on one of the facets facing Bryant Park.

philvia
August 24th, 2008, 11:53 PM
i took this today... the pic isn't great

http://i37.tinypic.com/25su7i0.jpg

Tectonic
August 24th, 2008, 11:53 PM
The lights actually doesn't look very good, so far, (the norm with this building):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3151/2796264178_5fe591d6d0_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3295/2796265256_bf64f044e1_b.jpg

Though I generally like the building I think it struggles to be artistic and corporate at the same time.

meesalikeu
August 24th, 2008, 11:59 PM
philvia wow! yeah the pic is foggy, but what a great angle. i have been wondering what the slashing crown looked like from that very viewpoint so thx.

antinimby
August 25th, 2008, 12:01 AM
philvia, you have finally arrived in the city? The view out of that airplane window of Manhattan must have been amazing, wasn't it? :)

Derek2k3
August 25th, 2008, 01:41 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3272/2785232519_169ca7a42c_b.jpg
by Milton CJ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/miltoncorrea/)

This is the view from Northside Piers.

Tectonic
August 25th, 2008, 08:38 AM
Wow that's a lot of Megawatts. Nice photo.

philvia
August 25th, 2008, 09:35 AM
yea i'm here now :)
i looove it haha

but yea yesterday was so hazy

LeCom
August 26th, 2008, 02:50 AM
Love that nighttime shot.

August 2008, from work

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9089/p1040512bofaucaug08tothbv3.jpg

ItstheBeat
August 26th, 2008, 04:14 AM
That is a great night time shot however we all know that the city doesn't look that bright when viewed from the naked eye across the river. If anything I feel NYC lags behind other cities in terms of architectural lighting. Im not saying that we should waste energy by pointing flood lights at buildings but when compared to other skylines at night NY is very conservative. I've always found myself wondering why on holidays such as the 4th of July buildings aren't decked out with colorful lighting features(besides Empire State). Brings on the LED's already. What do we have to do for some modern architectural lighting design.
Nothing over the top or tacky. Dallas and Hong Kong can be a little extreme. Philly even does a great job at lighting their prominent skyscrapers.
I mean honestly how long do we have to wait for the New York Times tower to light up its crown already. And can we ever have those stupid light bulbs atop world financial all working for once. Why not mimic the lighting effect of 7 world trades crown for the wfc towers.
And we all know damn well that Goldman wont do anything with their new downtown headquarters. You just have to look across the river to their tower in JC for the answer to that question. Yet another prominent tower screaming for a lit crown.

Derek2k3
August 26th, 2008, 09:06 PM
Nice shot LeCom.

DarrylStrawberry
August 26th, 2008, 09:12 PM
it's all lit up tonight.

antinimby
August 26th, 2008, 09:58 PM
Pics would be nice.

philvia
August 27th, 2008, 12:23 AM
i was there today at about 5pm.. it looks sooooooo nice! i didn't have a camera though

antinimby
August 27th, 2008, 12:27 AM
What looks so nice?

econ_tim
August 27th, 2008, 01:15 AM
i saw the wedge completely lit up flying into LGA tonight. it looks good from a distance.

antinimby
August 27th, 2008, 01:20 AM
Everybody "sees" but no one "captures."

I wonder if lofter was in Midtown today.

Tectonic
August 27th, 2008, 01:29 AM
http://www.ecogeek.org/images/stories/greenscrapers/bankofamerica.jpg

Thats what it should look like, lol.

lofter1
August 27th, 2008, 01:35 AM
I wonder if lofter was in Midtown today.

Indeed I was, but it was mid-day and the sun was out.

So I wouldn't have noticed lighting effects even if the lights were on :cool:

millertime83
August 27th, 2008, 01:56 PM
If anything I feel NYC lags behind other cities in terms of architectural lighting. Im not saying that we should waste energy by pointing flood lights at buildings but when compared to other skylines at night NY is very conservative.


Actually, there were plans to install a "lighting sculpture" atop the WTC at the end of 2001, which obviously never happened. I've always tried to find renderings of what it was to look like.

I believe that the company that had designed it is the same one that developed the "Towers of Light" memorial.

lofter1
August 27th, 2008, 04:49 PM
It seems to be that a lot of over-the-top building illumination (Hello, Dalls!) is an attempt to make up for lousy architecture.

Conservative lighting (outside of Times Square, where the sky's the limit) is the way for NYC to go -- and just the better buildings please.

No need to illuminate every pile of bricks that rises up near 40 floors.

I mean, who really wants to see the top of The Epic (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3321&highlight=epic) lit up anyway?

stache
August 27th, 2008, 05:47 PM
Well the birds certainly don't.

ItstheBeat
August 27th, 2008, 09:07 PM
I still think WFC could use a 7wtc lighting upgrade; maybe even by the time the new WTC complex opens. Hope thats not too ambitious. Also Empire State could use a lighting upgrade. Does anyone know if they still use those colored plastic disks that they slide over the lights in order to change the colors?
I know Goldman will trying their best to not draw attention to their new headquarters downtown. If only they would use a lighting effect similar to BofA's Miami tower which would highlight the curvature facing the hudson.
I can appreciate what the Bank of America tower is trying to achieve in highlighting and emphasizing its angular structure. I think it will look great when completed.

stache
August 27th, 2008, 09:22 PM
Yes, they still light up the ESB in colors from time to time. :cool:

ItstheBeat
August 27th, 2008, 09:30 PM
Thanks... Obviously. Im talking about the method that they use in order to change the colors.

antinimby
August 27th, 2008, 09:34 PM
Not sure if the more modern and energy saving lighting method has been implemented yet over at the ESB but here is that NY Times story (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/20/nyregion/21empirecnd.html) about just that from last year.

Meanwhile back onto the OBP, you'd think with so many photographers we have here, there would at least be a pic already of the new lit up section but I guess not.

antinimby
August 27th, 2008, 09:57 PM
Found a pic but this was from Monday when it was initially lit only for a few floors...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/2802972511_1c93a6d4cc_b.jpg
bjornborn (http://flickr.com/photos/florida2k8/2802972511/)

Derek2k3
August 27th, 2008, 10:55 PM
.
Meanwhile back onto the OBP, you'd think with so many photographers we have here, there would at least be a pic already of the new lit up section but I guess not.

There were 2 pics posted here (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showpost.php?p=247681&postcount=3068) already.

antinimby
August 27th, 2008, 11:03 PM
I saw and know about those (thanks Skylimit ;)) but I want to see it lit up all the way to the top, like some here have said happened starting yesterday.

Tectonic
August 28th, 2008, 01:06 AM
Use your imagination in the mean time:p. Its coming and you'll have plenty.

lofter1
August 30th, 2008, 01:13 AM
While passing the BA Tower this afternoon I was walking along the NORTHSIDE of 41st Street and I snapped a shot -- immediately I heard "You can't take pictures here." It was some security twerp at the BA building. Mind you, I was on the sidewalk on the OTHER SIDE of the street from the BA Tower. I paid no attention to the guy in the flourescent vest and prepared to take another shot.

The twerp then CROSSED THE STREET and PUT HIS HAND OVER my camera!

I let him know that it would not be a good idea if he touched me -- or my camera -- and that if I was breaking the law then he could call the police, but that he had no authority to tell me what I could and could not do when I was nowhere near the property he was watching. He then once again tried to BLOCK the shot I was taking by putting his hands up in the air. So I took his picture. He then walked back across the street.

Even though there was really nothing all that interesting to shoot I took another shot of the BA Tower just to let him know I could :D .

Here is the offending picture which caused the hoopla (clearly revealing all the secrets within the BA Tower) ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_711.jpg

The hand of misplaced authority ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_712.jpg

Power returning to its perch ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_714.jpg

Another revealing shot of the what iI will now call the BS Tower ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_715.jpg

I got a good shot of the twerp's face, but don't want to give him any mis-placed satisfaction by posting it here.

*

NYC4Life
August 30th, 2008, 01:54 AM
I wonder what sensative material might lie within the tower :rolleyes:

stache
August 30th, 2008, 04:53 AM
His lifeline splits towards the end -

brianac
August 30th, 2008, 05:13 AM
I wonder what the security guard had to hide.

We call it moonlighting over here, that is when someone receiving state benefits is also doing paid work.

Alonzo-ny
August 30th, 2008, 07:30 AM
What an a-hole, I hate guys like that. Its same the thing you get with a-hole bouncers at bars, give them a little power and they go mad with it. He must have been incredibly dumb if he thinks he has any kind of jurisdiction to do that.

londonlawyer
August 30th, 2008, 11:20 AM
While passing the BA Tower this afternoon I was walking along the NORTHSIDE of 41st Street and I snapped a shot -- immediately I heard "You can't take pictures here." It was some security twerp at the BA building. Mind you, I was on the sidewalk on the OTHER SIDE of the street from the BA Tower. I paid no attention to the guy in the flourescent vest and prepared to take another shot.

The twerp then CROSSED THE STREET and PUT HIS HAND OVER my camera!

I let him know that it would not be a good idea if he touched me -- or my camera....

Good one. The guy sounds like a real d....ck.

Tectonic
August 30th, 2008, 11:56 AM
Its funny how at some building the crew are striking poses, while at other buildings (sometimes the same ones) they act like jerks.

antinimby
August 30th, 2008, 11:10 PM
Finally, a pic of the lit up section. Will it go up all the way through the crown, once that part is completed?

(click on pic for LARGER version)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/2810552725_0895ca4963.jpg?v=0 (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/2810552725_0895ca4963_b.jpg)
photoAtlas (http://flickr.com/photos/agarcia/2810552725/)

NYC4Life
August 31st, 2008, 02:26 AM
Love that shot of Midtown. BOA really adds a spark and hopefully will be lit all the way up to the crown.

D. Velop
August 31st, 2008, 04:29 AM
Found a pic but this was from Monday when it was initially lit only for a few floors...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/2802972511_1c93a6d4cc_b.jpg
bjornborn (http://flickr.com/photos/florida2k8/2802972511/)

The Magic when buildings create a Metropolis!

Alonzo-ny
August 31st, 2008, 08:01 AM
Looks pretty good in AN's pic. Im sure it will go all the way to the crown in the end. It looks quite subtle, Id like to see how it ends up looking in the skyline.

avm10
August 31st, 2008, 05:59 PM
I was very disappointed when I couldn't take any pictures of the lobby INSIDE the building. (Visited the site on 8/25/08 when I was in town, however I did get good pictures from around the site.)

Overall I was a bit baffled by the whole "no pictures" agenda.

She sure looks great though :)

aural iNK
August 31st, 2008, 06:18 PM
This looks great from across the river in Brooklyn. I'll try to swing by there tonight for a photo.

avm10
August 31st, 2008, 07:08 PM
Perhaps a lot of the same ole same ole, but on a cloudy/hazy day, the curtain wall doesn't leave a lot to be desired but under the right lighting conditions or at dusk...its beautiful.

The ONLY time the building looked paunchy and fat is from the Hudson River side.

I did manage to take some decent pictures from the top of shop.

From Flickr page, taken on my recent trip.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27591663@N08/sets/72157607045475829/
(all unedited)

antinimby
August 31st, 2008, 10:05 PM
You take good pictures avm. OBP looks great lit up at night.

Can't wait to see yours too, aural.

aural iNK
September 1st, 2008, 01:44 AM
These photos don't really do it justice, but they at least give you an idea of how it looks...

antinimby
September 1st, 2008, 01:59 AM
So are you saying it looks much more impressive in person?

aural iNK
September 1st, 2008, 02:15 AM
I think so, but I'm a sucker for anything new.

BrooklynLove
September 1st, 2008, 10:56 AM
I got a good shot of the twerp's face, but don't want to give him any mis-placed satisfaction by posting it here.

Idiot. He's fortuntate that you're so civilized. Someone is going to smack him in the cabeza if he keeps that junk up.

lofter1
September 1st, 2008, 12:37 PM
I've considered e-mailing it ^ to B[S] building operations, but then I'd have to follow through -- and who needs all that grief?

Besides, no doubt they follow things here at wny (the best place in the world for construction up-dates!!! and building info !!!!) so if the boss wants to deal with the twerp and forestall any future problems / lawsuits they know where to reach me.

stache
September 1st, 2008, 07:13 PM
I have a feeling he was 'just following orders'.

195Broadway
September 1st, 2008, 07:20 PM
These photos don't really do it justice, but they at least give you an idea of how it looks...

The Citgo sign in Kenmore Square comes to mind..

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/195Broadway/citgo.jpg?t=1220315897

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6295&d=1220244196

scumonkey
September 1st, 2008, 08:02 PM
I have a feeling he was 'just following orders'.I doubt it.....Looks to be the same a$$ that tried to stop
me from taking pics- even after I had asked the head of security what was, and was not allowed! :rolleyes:
Put a security vest, and a walkie talkie on their belt
(plus cup of joe in their hand) and some think they wield
more power than the Dick Cheney!

195Broadway
September 1st, 2008, 09:47 PM
Just be grateful he wasn't armed with a doughnut. It could have gotten ugly.

Stroika
September 1st, 2008, 10:37 PM
I got a good shot of the twerp's face, but don't want to give him any mis-placed satisfaction by posting it here.

Lofter, you should try taking pictures of the building next time you see him, and then report him to the building's management -- or the cops -- if he pulls this again. That sort of behavior needs to be stamped out before it becomes habitual, for him or anyone else.

antinimby
September 1st, 2008, 11:35 PM
The Citgo sign in Kenmore Square comes to mind..Citgo (formerly Cities Service) used to be a New York-based company, until they pulled up stakes and left (late 1970's) for Oklahoma City and recently moved again to Texas. Wait a minute, that almost sounds just like the path you took, 195Broadway. :D

Jasonik
September 2nd, 2008, 12:03 AM
"Wedge of Light"

195Broadway
September 2nd, 2008, 12:22 AM
Citgo (formerly Cities Service) used to be a New York-based company, until they pulled up stakes and left (late 1970's) for Oklahoma City and recently moved again to Texas. Wait a minute, that almost sounds just like the path you took, 195Broadway. :D

Naw, I got here via Omaha. ;)

philvia
September 2nd, 2008, 01:31 AM
oh its lit up now?? i'll have to check it out soon

NativeNewYorker
September 4th, 2008, 06:35 AM
While passing the BA Tower this afternoon I was walking along the NORTHSIDE of 41st Street and I snapped a shot -- immediately I heard "You can't take pictures here." It was some security twerp at the BA building. Mind you, I was on the sidewalk on the OTHER SIDE of the street from the BA Tower. I paid no attention to the guy in the flourescent vest and prepared to take another shot.

The twerp then CROSSED THE STREET and PUT HIS HAND OVER my camera!

I let him know that it would not be a good idea if he touched me -- or my camera -- and that if I was breaking the law then he could call the police, but that he had no authority to tell me what I could and could not do when I was nowhere near the property he was watching. He then once again tried to BLOCK the shot I was taking by putting his hands up in the air. So I took his picture. He then walked back across the street.

Even though there was really nothing all that interesting to shoot I took another shot of the BA Tower just to let him know I could :D .

Here is the offending picture which caused the hoopla (clearly revealing all the secrets within the BA Tower) ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_711.jpg

The hand of misplaced authority ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_712.jpg

Power returning to its perch ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_714.jpg

Another revealing shot of the what iI will now call the BS Tower ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_715.jpg

I got a good shot of the twerp's face, but don't want to give him any mis-placed satisfaction by posting it here.

*
Only in New York. Did he actually touch you or your camera? If so, you should contact his employer.

lofter1
September 4th, 2008, 11:26 AM
Yeah, his palm came in contact with the lens.

I've posted the info. It's now documented. Everyone is on notice.

I have better things to do than spend my time busting some twerp and dealing with customer relations in big corporate offices.

Astra
September 4th, 2008, 05:12 PM
The "hand" photo is the most interesting I've seen of BOA Tower. I've been looking at the shots of BOA for years now.....it's boring. I've only seen it in person a few times; not in months and never at night. Maybe I'll see the light one day....

JacobNYC
September 4th, 2008, 06:51 PM
Oh my god, his palm came in contact with the lens?? You should contact his employer?? Get the poor guy making minimum wage to support his family, fired for doing his job??

scumonkey
September 4th, 2008, 06:55 PM
Did I just read what I think i just read?!

Alonzo-ny
September 4th, 2008, 07:23 PM
Dude!

lofter1
September 4th, 2008, 08:14 PM
... fired for doing his job??


Oh, I only wish I'd seen what was written. SOMEONE Please send me a PM with the scoop ...

Meanwhile, I turn my attention to JacobNYC and say:

Look, idiot -- Yeah, you're an IDIOT or at the very least exhibit IDIOTIC THOUGHT PROCESSING --anyone who has followed this thread and then writes what you've written has very little when it comes to comprehensive powers.

Since when does leaving his "place of business", walking across the street and confronting a citizen who is on public property constitute "doing his job"?

Sorry ... Let me change how I address you: from here on in JacobNYC is to me: Apologist Idiot.

lofter1
September 4th, 2008, 08:36 PM
Oh my god, his palm came in contact with the lens?? You should contact his employer?? Get the poor guy making minimum wage to support his family, fired for doing his job??

Last edited by stache; September 4th, 2008 at 06:41 PM. Reason: Bigotry


I just got the scoop on what this turd wrote. I'm not mincing words and if the smelly pile isn't banned for that comment (now edited out) then there is no justice. Removing his offensive words is only half the job.

Kick the slimy MF off the site.

Please.

And Thank you.

[I might reconsider if he is compelled to offer a public apology to the posters and to those whose beliefs he used as fodder for his fight.]

ps: JacobNYC -- I'd classify myself as more of an agnostic rather than the scurrilous term you used.

dtolman
September 5th, 2008, 11:54 AM
Maybe thats a pic of JacobNYC you got on your camera... I'd be upset too if I was that big an idiot.

JacobNYC
September 6th, 2008, 05:41 PM
Melodramatic yuppies annoy me. It's just an internet forum, no ones going to die.


I just got the scoop on what this turd wrote. I'm not mincing words and if the smelly pile isn't banned for that comment (now edited out) then there is no justice. Removing his offensive words is only half the job.

Kick the slimy MF off the site.

Please.

And Thank you.

[I might reconsider if he is compelled to offer a public apology to the posters and to those whose beliefs he used as fodder for his fight.]

ps: JacobNYC -- I'd classify myself as more of an agnostic rather than the scurrilous term you used.

NoyokA
September 6th, 2008, 06:00 PM
I just got the scoop on what this turd wrote. I'm not mincing words and if the smelly pile isn't banned for that comment (now edited out) then there is no justice. Removing his offensive words is only half the job.

Kick the slimy MF off the site.

Please.

And Thank you.

[I might reconsider if he is compelled to offer a public apology to the posters and to those whose beliefs he used as fodder for his fight.]

ps: JacobNYC -- I'd classify myself as more of an agnostic rather than the scurrilous term you used.

He didn't apologize. He'll be able to return in a week.

lofter1
September 6th, 2008, 06:23 PM
Good move ^

Since hes so easily annoyed I'll put him on the handy Ignore List.

scumonkey
September 6th, 2008, 06:25 PM
He's already on my ignorant list:cool:

Alonzo-ny
September 6th, 2008, 07:12 PM
Wow, he can get away with what he said with just a one week ban? Id have thought that would have been permanent for sure!

stache
September 6th, 2008, 07:35 PM
Insulting other members - infraction - 100 points. duration - 7 days

Plus the insult was edited out of the thread before lofter saw it, so he had to request a cut and paste to see it in order to be insulted. ;)

Alonzo-ny
September 6th, 2008, 09:25 PM
That wasnt an insult that was bigotry. Had I been of the creed in the post being referred to I would never return to this site again had he not been permanently banned.

Zoe
September 7th, 2008, 12:24 AM
Too bad it is raining tonight. I was planning to get a few pictures of the new lights on this building for this page

lofter1
September 7th, 2008, 12:52 AM
I didn't ask for clarification for the thrill of reading the "insult".

I could tell from the replies of other posters that what the ignorant JacobNYC had written was probably way beyond an 'insult" and crossed any acceptable line. Which it was.

Here's what should be considered:

What good does such a person bring to WNY? What would we lose by not welcoming it back?

Here's one thing we would gain: A clear message that such trash talk will get folks booted.

antinimby
September 7th, 2008, 03:53 AM
Too bad it is raining tonight. I was planning to get a few pictures of the new lights on this building for this pageSo get it tonight (Sun).

NativeNewYorker
September 7th, 2008, 08:01 PM
Oh my god, his palm came in contact with the lens?? You should contact his employer?? Get the poor guy making minimum wage to support his family, fired for doing his job??

My comments were pure sarcasm because I believe he was just following orders. How would members of this forum feel if this young man is terminated? Did he make a bad decision? Yes. Was he following orders? Probably. Should he pay for that mistake? Yes. Should that price be the loss of his job? NO WAY!!

Alonzo-ny
September 7th, 2008, 08:24 PM
If he is breaking the law by infringing on the rights of peoples freedom in the street, then yes he should be fired. He should think about the hardship this would cause him before he breaks the law. Sympathy for him is idiotic.

lofter1
September 7th, 2008, 08:27 PM
Has this JacobNYC character slid back in under a newly-assumed name?

Whatever.

NativeNYer: So, the argument is that he was "just following orders" to leave his place of business, cross the street and physically come in contact with a citizen who was a good 50+ feet off of the porperty he was supposedly "guarding".

Good try, idiot.

Doesn't hold water here or in Court.

Law: You touch me then it's called "Assault". No ifs, ands or buts about it.

I bet if the story were the following you'd be screaming police brutality:
I was walking down the street listening to my iPod and a cop walked up and took the earplugs out of my ears ...

But hey, the cop isn't earning much. Why shouldn't he be allowed to accost anyone who bugs him?

And the "just following orders" excuse -- given other comments which were moderated out opens doors we really shouldn't go into.

Do we need to re-hash the anti-Jewish comment that got edited out?

Derek2k3
September 7th, 2008, 08:28 PM
I mean, who really wants to see the top of The Epic (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3321&highlight=epic) lit up anyway?

I do, it does make the building decent at night. How can you tell how architecturally inept a building is on the skyline at night?
Save for the environmental consequences, the more nightime illumination the better.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3187/2791405930_8b402b5575_b.jpg
mudpig (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yukonblizzard/2791405930/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/2789781786_cf36c7ea68_b.jpg
mudpig (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yukonblizzard/2791405930/)

NativeNewYorker
September 7th, 2008, 09:54 PM
Has this JacobNYC character slid back in under a newly-assumed name?

Whatever.

NativeNYer: So, the argument is that he was "just following orders" to leave his place of business, cross the street and physically come in contact with a citizen who was a good 50+ feet off of the porperty he was supposedly "guarding".

Good try, idiot.

Doesn't hold water here or in Court.

Law: You touch me then it's called "Assault". No ifs, ands or buts about it.

I bet if the story were the following you'd be screaming police brutality:
I was walking down the street listening to my iPod and a cop walked up and took the earplugs out of my ears ...

But hey, the cop isn't earning much. Why shouldn't he be allowed to accost anyone who bugs him?

And the "just following orders" excuse -- given other comments which were moderated out opens doors we really shouldn't go into.

Do we need to re-hash the anti-Jewish comment that got edited out?
You said he did not touch you. Are you now changing your story? Did he manhandle your camera or inadvertently touch the lens as you tried to prove that you had the RIGHT to do what you were doing? I agree that his actions were wrong but I question his motivation. What's with the illogical cop analogy? She/he probably took the earplugs out of your ears because you were so fixated on taking a picture that you did not see the taxi rushing to a fare that would have done more damage to you than a security officer in post 9-11 New York City. I'm all for free speech, free assembly, free yadda, yadda, yadda but we have to draw the line somewhere. Being "right" should not always be our goal because that can have bad consequences. If you stepped into the street to take that picture and the light was in your favor but there was a truck coming at 70 miles per hour and you STILL walked into the intersection ANYWAY you would have been "right" BUT... NEVER MIND!!

Derek2k3
September 7th, 2008, 09:56 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/2836563982_eb337840fd_b.jpg
j0hng4lt (http://www.flickr.com/photos/j0hng4lt/)


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2380/2677390646_e789abb9ca_b.jpg
mudpig (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yukonblizzard/)
You have to check out mudpig's photostream for other great photos.

stache
September 7th, 2008, 10:53 PM
NativeNewYorker please continue your debate with lofter via PM. Thank you.

lofter1
September 8th, 2008, 12:17 AM
Debate closed.

NYC4Life
September 8th, 2008, 12:59 AM
The last shots of Midtown: Amazing!

Tectonic
September 8th, 2008, 05:23 AM
Debate closed.

Thank God. Couldn't believe how much attention we gave that guy.

Anyway, anyone found out why the top of BOA is taking so long to get done?

NativeNewYorker
September 8th, 2008, 06:36 AM
NativeNewYorker please continue your debate with lofter via PM. Thank you.

Will Do

NativeNewYorker
September 8th, 2008, 06:52 AM
Debate closed.
Agreed

Alonzo-ny
September 8th, 2008, 08:40 AM
As much as I enjoy new pics of the skyline does every picture these days need to have that special effect/ tint on the image? It makes it hard for me to truely like it because its not a true image.

stache
September 8th, 2008, 08:50 AM
I for one am very thankful for all the photos we get. They are all provided on a volunteer basis.

avm10
September 8th, 2008, 02:04 PM
As much as I enjoy new pics of the skyline does every picture these days need to have that special effect/ tint on the image? It makes it hard for me to truely like it because its not a true image.

Agreed, but the HDR effect on those images does throw some visual interest to a skyline we're pretty familiar with.

As for the top of the building, there is a lot of complicated mechanical areas at the top and it all has to be done before the curtain wall is finished.... Unlike most buildings where the cladding is done before the rooftop mechanical is done, things are a bit backwards here. Its to bad this building doesn't have a public observation position. You get some pretty good views of Central Park to the north. Luckily I was able to get up there for a short time and take some pictures before the curtain wall encloses the several top floors of mechanical spaces.

pianoman11686
September 8th, 2008, 05:39 PM
Thanks for posting those pics, Derek. All breathtaking.

Off-topic, but: did anyone notice how clear the skies have been this summer in the NY area? I usually think hazy and gray when it gets to be August/September and still warm outside, but it was all blue skies this year (or so it seemed).

stache
September 8th, 2008, 06:39 PM
Yes, it's been exceptionally beautiful, except for last Saturday afternoon lol.

lofter1
September 8th, 2008, 08:38 PM
By far the most temperate August I've ever experienced in NYC.

And today the sky was incredibly blue here.

antinimby
September 8th, 2008, 09:52 PM
The humidity levels have also been uncharacteristically very low as well.

Alonzo-ny
September 8th, 2008, 09:58 PM
Damn it, the first summer I havent spent in NY in the last three years...

NewYorkDoc
September 8th, 2008, 10:57 PM
The humidity levels have also been uncharacteristically very low as well.

Not to me. I feel like they've been just as high as usual.

lofter1
September 9th, 2008, 12:15 AM
Tell us about the heat and humidity in Scotland.

I want to go there.

Maybe in November (possibly after the 4th).

Alonzo-ny
September 9th, 2008, 08:52 AM
Well humidity doesnt exist here, in November it will probably mildly cold at best and as always rainy. Though I will say the weather here is extremely random so you may have a great clear warm day then a cold, wet, windy one the next. Let me know if you will be around and Ill meet you for lunch!

lofter1
September 9th, 2008, 11:04 AM
Depending upon the election results I'll let you know. Might be seeking somewhat long-term lodging :cool: ...

Alonzo-ny
September 9th, 2008, 01:32 PM
Well I do have a pretty sweet apartment with a spare room!

stache
September 9th, 2008, 02:03 PM
Do I hear wedding bells in the near future? ;)

aliendroid
September 16th, 2008, 12:26 AM
Depending upon the election results I'll let you know. Might be seeking somewhat long-term lodging :cool: ...

If you want I'll setup a boat to drop you off in Cuba.

lofter1
September 16th, 2008, 02:20 PM
Thanks ^ would love to take a cruise to Havana.

I'd prefer an outside berth with a terrace.

Disembark from NYC, of course.

Early December would be perfect.

antinimby
September 16th, 2008, 09:15 PM
Who will be your Alice Faye, lofter?

http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/images/1882week.jpg

lofter1
September 16th, 2008, 10:09 PM
A weekend would hardly be enough.

John Payne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Payne_(actor))! Who did he f*** to become a movie star?

NYC4Life
September 17th, 2008, 06:07 PM
Sad to report, but glass has once again fallen from this building. Fortunately no one was injured, but an immediate stop work order has once again, been issued.

lofter1
September 17th, 2008, 06:11 PM
News reports are that something from up high fell on the sloping glass and broke a number of panes.

One good thing about a simple straight-sided box of a building: None of those angled facades to get in the way of gravitational pull.

Tectonic
September 17th, 2008, 07:19 PM
According to ABC this afternoon a stop work order has been issued. Just a lot of bad luck for this historic building.

antinimby
September 17th, 2008, 10:11 PM
Wow, what kind of dumb and klutzy people are they hiring to put up the façade here?

Jeez, now we have to stare at that unfinished crown for another 3 months.

NYC4Life
September 18th, 2008, 04:21 AM
September 16, 2008 (A day before its latest accident)

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7536/bankofamericatowersb4.jpg

ttbims
September 27th, 2008, 11:25 AM
stop work order has been lifted by the DOB and all exterior work should start up monday

195Broadway
September 27th, 2008, 05:50 PM
Maybe they could just get a demolition permit. That would cover it.

nyck
September 27th, 2008, 05:54 PM
from the north side of the Jackie O reservoir, last weekend. Someone on this board referred to the new midtown skyline as "hypodermia" -- it works.

NYC4Life
October 2nd, 2008, 07:09 AM
A spectacular overhead shot of Midtown. Without its Spire, BOA would be lost in this dense forest of skyscrapers...


Photo By: Sherman W.'s (http://flickr.com/photos/shermanwu/) - Flickr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3096/2786621476_0fbf95e89a_b.jpg

ItstheBeat
October 2nd, 2008, 05:42 PM
Look at all those potentially green roofs in midtown.

stache
October 2nd, 2008, 05:46 PM
Very good point.

Tectonic
October 3rd, 2008, 12:07 AM
In time, I hope. Citigroup surprisingly still has not put solar panels on its tower, as a statement at least.

stache
October 3rd, 2008, 02:05 AM
It's my impression that they were installed with the original construction, but they failed on first try.

Chrysler New Yorker
October 3rd, 2008, 11:16 PM
In time, I hope. Citigroup surprisingly still has not put solar panels on its tower, as a statement at least.

I'm surprised that Citi has not made the top of it's tower into a sky lobby.

nykid17
October 7th, 2008, 08:58 PM
Took some more low quality shots of it right before sunset this evening.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27467028@N06/2923243202/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27467028@N06/2923243196/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27467028@N06/2923243198/


Anyone know how to post the direct picture, and not the link? It used to work fine, and now when i get the picture from flickr this is what i get... you always have to click on the link.

195Broadway
October 7th, 2008, 09:51 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3242/2923243202_7ef6ae7d0f.jpg?v=0

One method I know of:
Go to the photo, right click on it. click on "properties" in the resultant drop down. Copy the info to the right of "address: (url)"
Now paste that in your post, then add a "" in front of it, and a "" behind it . (minus the quotes, of course).

Nice shot, BTW. :)

Sherpa
October 8th, 2008, 01:09 AM
This building doesn't go straight up like the South side of Beekman tower!

scumonkey
October 8th, 2008, 01:15 AM
apples and oranges-
by the same token, it doesn't undulant either:rolleyes:

antinimby
October 10th, 2008, 11:58 AM
I also took a night shot of the lit up section...

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2464/img0084zz5.jpg


I also noticed they put up an all-black Bank of America logo on the east-facing wall in the lobby...

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/2315/img0087sc2.jpg

stache
October 10th, 2008, 12:01 PM
That logo looks like they're trying to start a new language.

lofter1
October 10th, 2008, 12:32 PM
Will they add another BA logo (super big) at the top of the wedge of light?

stache
October 10th, 2008, 12:42 PM
Logos on top of buildings are usually tacky in the extreme.

Citytect
October 10th, 2008, 04:39 PM
So the lighted wedge isn't going to come to a point at the bottom? Literally cutting corners. Looks rather crude so far.

antinimby
October 16th, 2008, 02:17 PM
Charlie Palmer’s Halo to Hover over Bryant Park

The chef first opened his fancy American restaurant in an Upper East Side townhouse after the ‘87 Dow dive; now it’s headed South.


http://www.observer.com/files/imagecache/vertical/files/l_tales.jpg
Charlie Palmer


by Chris Shott | October 14, 2008 (http://www.observer.com/2008/real-estate/charlie-palmer-s-halo-hover-over-bryant-park)

With a dash of déjà vu, famed chef Charlie Palmer was simmering over the current financial crisis.


“As scary a time as we’re in now, I remember Black Monday,” Mr. Palmer said, referring to the infamous stock market crash of Oct. 19, 1987.



Talk about bad timing: “That was just prior to when we were ready to open the restaurant!”



Back then, some people thought he was nuts to go forward with Aureole, the ambitious young cook’s pipe dream of an American-style Lutèce, located inside an Upper East Side townhouse, which he and a partner had purchased and spent months renovating.



“I remember signing those mortgage papers and going on the hook for three million bucks!” recalled Mr. Palmer, who was just 29 at the time. “Well, what am I to do? I built a restaurant. I’m ready to open. Am I not going to open? Of course I have to open!”



His perseverance paid off. The economy eventually rebounded and Aureole opened the following year—setting a new standard for American cuisine and catapulting the career of the aspiring chef, who’s now pushing 50, with a dozen restaurants coast to coast.



“Now, here we are 20 years later, again, starting construction on a $10 million restaurant in the Bank of America building,” Mr. Palmer said, laughing. “At least I can say I’m glad it wasn’t the Bear Stearns building.”

Recent banking catastrophes notwithstanding, Mr. Palmer will toast to Aureole’s 20th anniversary at a splashy cocktail party on Oct. 30 in the very townhouse where it all began, at 34 East 61st Street.



Meanwhile, nearly 20 blocks away, construction workers will be busy assembling the seminal eatery’s spacious new digs on the ground floor of the Durst Organization’s 54-story Bank of America Tower at One Bryant Park.



Dumping the small cozy brownstone for a big glassy skyscraper will likely wind up costing his flagship restaurant some of its romantic charms. But the venerable purveyor of tea-smoked squab and oxtail terrine isn’t one for crocodile tears.



“I don’t look into the past as much as some people—I always look forward,” Mr. Palmer said, speaking by phone last week from Sonoma County, Calif., where he owns and operates the boutique Hotel Healdsburg and its in-house Dry Creek Kitchen.



“I think for Aureole to continue to grow as a brand and as something special that we needed to do something drastic,” he said. “We’ve literally torn that restaurant apart five times and redone it right down to the cement walls. And, you know, it’s a brownstone—it’s not going to change.
There are a lot of physical limitations to that space. As cozy and romantic as it is, the bar is only four seats!”



He’ll have space for an entire bar room with seating for 60 in the new, nearly 10,000-square-foot location, which is scheduled to open this spring with a more modern, Adam Tihany-designed look and more casual offerings than the traditional Aureole customer would be used to. Barroom patrons can even order items a la carte.



“Come into Aureole now and it’s a big-deal experience—that’s all we offer,” said Mr. Palmer, noting that more formal dining will take place separately in an intimate 55-seat room (roughly 30 fewer chairs than the existing dining area).



“The way people dine is different now, 20 years later,” he explained. “Some nights you have diners that are going out for the big-deal dinner. They’re entertaining clients. They have friends from out of town and they want to show them a great time. Then there are other nights where you just want to grab something quick to eat, a great glass of wine or cocktail, and you don’t want that huge commitment.



“What we’re really focusing on here is solid, amazing food, amazing service and an amazing wine list, but deliver it in a way that people are really comfortable and it’s not stuffy and not over the top,” Mr. Palmer continued. “We’re not going to require a jacket in any part of the restaurant. Twenty years ago, that was unheard of.”



A third area will be reserved for private parties—another amenity the old townhouse was sorely lacking. “In 20 years, I’ve probably turned away $40 million worth of private business because we don’t have a private room,” Mr. Palmer said. “I can’t even calculate the number of times people have called, ‘I have a party of 40 people.’ Can’t do it. Click.”



The vast space at One Bryant Park just seems limitless by comparison.
“We’ll have one of the largest wine cellars in New York City—if not the largest—on premise,” gushed Mr. Palmer. “Real estate’s so expensive in New York that now, at Aureole, we have three wine cellars in the restaurant and probably double that in off-site wine storage. … Now we’re going to bring all this to one amazing cellar. We’ll have storage for about 23,000 bottles.”



Not every developer can entice a star chef to uproot his legacy with mere promises of additional wine storage.



“Over the years, we’ve been—how should we say?—romanced by different people about possibly moving,” Mr. Palmer said. “Time Warner Center was a good example. I know quite a few of the guys at [developer] Related Companies. … I just didn’t think it was the right thing for us at the time.”



Leave it to noted foodie Douglas Durst to belly up to the bargaining table.

“I’ve known Douglas for quite some time,” said Mr. Palmer. Compared to more meat-and-potatoes-style developers, “he’s a very solid connoisseur of food and wine,” the chef said.



(“Charlie’s cooking certainly stands out,” Mr. Durst told The Observer. “A lot of people these days think the more ingredients you put into a dish, the better it is; Charlie’s food, while not simple, is not terribly complicated.”)

“He certainly could have leased it to a TGI Friday’s for 10 times what I’m paying, and they would’ve jumped at the deal,” said Mr. Palmer.



“It’s a trophy building, and Aureole is a trophy restaurant,” said Mr. Durst, who noted that his father, the late real estate mogul Seymour Durst, used to live on East 61st Street, not far from the existing restaurant. “We were in there, well, not all the time, but a number of times,” the developer said.



“Rents on 42nd Street are over $500 a foot, but that kind of tenant wasn’t what we were looking for,” added Mr. Durst, who co-owns one of New York State’s largest organic farms. “It was a highly negotiated deal—nowhere near those numbers. We really reached out to have Charlie in the building.”



But what to do with the existing Aureole building, which will become vacant upon the new location’s spring launch? The veteran chef and property owner isn’t quite sure.



“The one thing I know is, it’s not going to be another restaurant,” Mr. Palmer said. “There’s only one Aureole in New York.”



His other one is in Vegas.

© 2008 Observer Media Group

lofter1
October 17th, 2008, 11:31 PM
Almost all the glass on the south face of the crown is up. Today it was glistening as the sunset.

From the Brooklyn Bridge ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_771.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_774.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_777a.jpg

1 bryant park

NYC4Life
October 18th, 2008, 01:14 PM
From those angles, One Madison Park looks to be nearing a top out.

philvia
October 18th, 2008, 07:07 PM
this is how it looks from my dorm
http://lh3.ggpht.com/philvia/SPpdDdu3FsI/AAAAAAAABCQ/izqLJZElgZo/s912/DSC_0368.JPG

lofter1
October 18th, 2008, 07:36 PM
damned red X

stache
October 18th, 2008, 09:22 PM
Even though you uploaded the pix?

lofter1
October 18th, 2008, 09:32 PM
in philvia's post I see: x

scumonkey
October 18th, 2008, 09:33 PM
Not only do I not see a picture, I don't even see the red X :confused:

kz1000ps
October 18th, 2008, 09:34 PM
I'm with scumonkey: no pic, no red X.

lofter1
October 18th, 2008, 09:35 PM
Here's what I see:

this is how it looks from my dorm
http://lh3.ggpht.com/philvia/SPpdDdu3FsI/AAAAAAAABCQ/izqLJZElgZo/s912/DSC_0368.JPG

Derek2k3
October 18th, 2008, 10:35 PM
http://lh3.ggpht.com/philvia/SPpdDdu3FsI/AAAAAAAABCQ/izqLJZElgZo/s912/DSC_0368.JPG

philvia
October 18th, 2008, 11:35 PM
sorry, dunno why picasa doesn't let you link

http://i34.tinypic.com/334nsqd.jpg

BrooklynLove
October 19th, 2008, 09:30 AM
^Is that pic taken from Bridgeview Tower or Oro? Where you at Phil?

philvia
October 19th, 2008, 11:07 AM
nyu poly dorms

BrooklynLove
October 19th, 2008, 01:57 PM
Very nice.

Derek2k3
October 22nd, 2008, 09:32 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/2960879039_95188b66a2_b.jpg
any.g (http://flickr.com/photos/ahava/2960879039/sizes/l/)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/2927737097_a4b8eca6e7_b.jpg
new-york-city (http://flickr.com/photos/new-york-city/2927737097/sizes/l/)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3068/2666464703_d48aba16ca_b.jpg
Tony Shi, NY-NJ (http://flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/2666464703/sizes/l/in/set-72157606319933770/)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/2767120224_408ff31c65_b.jpg
Tony Shi, NY-NJ (http://flickr.com/photos/tonyshi/2767120224/sizes/l/in/set-72157606319933770/)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2926699498_d297d643bb_b.jpg
Freimut (http://flickr.com/photos/9255261@N07/2926699498/sizes/l/)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/2964946868_b7dff26760_b.jpg
christinastelzer (http://flickr.com/photos/christinastelzer/2964946868/sizes/l/)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/2962515744_485b0698bb_b.jpg
tyfihi (http://flickr.com/photos/tylersparks/2962515744/sizes/l/)

NYC4Life
October 22nd, 2008, 10:42 PM
Damn, those are killer shots.

JSsocal
October 23rd, 2008, 12:10 AM
Well I got my next seven desktop pictures:D

kz1000ps
October 23rd, 2008, 02:29 AM
Thanks for those, Derek. Also, thank you for providing direct links to the images (instead of the user's photostream).

--
Boy, that second shot really shows the piss-poor company the ESB has to put up with. 325 Fifth, the 1960s Shreve, Lamb & Harmon abomination, and that other graceless new residential tower sitting right in front of [the ESB] are all remarkable for how little they speak to any of their surroundings. It's almost comical how bad they are.

DKNY617
October 24th, 2008, 05:41 PM
A couple of pictures I took of BoFA after college today.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0971.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0972.jpg

Derek2k3
October 24th, 2008, 07:08 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/2873771977_13a756c27f_b.jpg
Pinay New Yorker (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinaynewyorker/2873771977/sizes/l/)

NYC4Life
October 24th, 2008, 07:12 PM
The Sixth Avenue skyscraper canyon, is unrivaled perhaps anywhere in NY.

stache
October 24th, 2008, 07:40 PM
As much as we hate Stratus, it helps the canyon along. :)

antinimby
October 24th, 2008, 07:44 PM
Will they ever finish that crown within our lifetimes?

I think it's been close to a year (if not more than that) since they've topped out, added the spire and even cladded most of the tower.

Since then, they've done relatively very little (on the exterior).

NYC4Life
October 24th, 2008, 07:51 PM
We can thank all the recent construction accidents for the long delay, with each accident prompting work stop orders.

NYC4Life
October 27th, 2008, 10:58 PM
By: Ghost (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/member.php?u=15372) - Skyscraperpage

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3186/2977288245_56a12196d0_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3201/2977314315_3089b7769b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3243/2977296461_f461c0e284_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3050/2977302107_53c9e4f85c_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/2977306939_7982469771_b.jpg

BrooklynLove
October 28th, 2008, 08:05 AM
By: Ghost (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/member.php?u=15372) - Skyscraperpage

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/2977306939_7982469771_b.jpg

Stupid question - what is being built in the foreground of this shot?

lofter1
October 28th, 2008, 09:15 AM
ice rink / restaurant in Bryant Park.

econ_tim
October 28th, 2008, 11:11 AM
i did some quick and dirty copy pasting in paint based on Ghost's picture above. here is what the crown may look like soon:

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9361/crownte1.jpg

NoyokA
October 28th, 2008, 01:46 PM
It won't me the same color as the rest of the tower it'll be a milky color as already applied to the west-side of the crown.

JSsocal
October 28th, 2008, 11:10 PM
^^Not necessarily. Isn't that the "atrium," I mean it might be different considering it will be lit and all. There is also a space between the glass and the floor plate, and so it probably will continue the look of that small sliver going up the tower

NoyokA
October 29th, 2008, 11:18 AM
No the atrium was scrapped very long ago. And every part that they have installed on the upper portion has been that milky color. I'm open to taking bets though, I do have a paypal account.

antinimby
October 29th, 2008, 04:43 PM
The rest of the crown will be clad in the same opaque glass that is already up on the south/west/north sides.

The reason econ_tim didn't use the opaque glass is because there wasn't any of it that is facing east that he use to could cut & paste from.

ablarc
October 29th, 2008, 05:08 PM
The Sixth Avenue skyscraper canyon, is unrivaled perhaps anywhere in NY.
Partly because it's so sheer. Few stepped setbacks.

lofter1
October 29th, 2008, 06:30 PM
But it does have stepped-back street walls.

Derek2k3
October 31st, 2008, 03:52 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2907823165_b6af0e5670_b.jpg
mudpig (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yukonblizzard/2907823165/sizes/l/)

JSsocal
October 31st, 2008, 12:08 PM
Hehe BofA may be pretty tall, but boy in that pic the spire looks really pronounced and big.

econ_tim
October 31st, 2008, 01:37 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/2989657222_9816b7ca7a_b.jpg

JSsocal
October 31st, 2008, 02:17 PM
Maybe with this final push they can finish the damn thing:rolleyes:

londonlawyer
October 31st, 2008, 02:57 PM
Does anyone know what's going on with the crappy 60's building two blocks south of this (at around 40th and 6th)? The facade was being taken apart when I last saw it in June.

NYC4Life
October 31st, 2008, 02:57 PM
One of the best angles of BOA I've probably have seen.

Arch
November 5th, 2008, 07:46 PM
Tomorrow bank of America on Nat Geo:


http://archrecord.construction.com/news/daily/archives/081105skyscraper.asp

lofter1
November 5th, 2008, 10:38 PM
Love how archrecord (http://archrecord.construction.com/news/daily/archives/081105skyscraper.asp) shows the top of the tower:

http://archrecord.construction.com/news/images/081105skyscraper2.jpg

scumonkey
November 5th, 2008, 10:45 PM
Agreed- also makes the harpoon at the top look like it belongs up there.

Shadly
November 6th, 2008, 11:49 AM
Buildings like this and the Cooper Hotel have to become the new standard for high rises in New York. Like the 20's with the classic, ornate, terraced buildings and Deco buildings. Imagine a backdrop like this:

http://pixdaus.com/pics/qFSwKwsxYKeJ9YVmlK.jpg

Only with a propensity of angular structures ala BofA Tower.

kz1000ps
November 7th, 2008, 01:41 AM
Sorry, but if the BOA tower sets a new standard, then that standard is IMO maybe half a bar higher than it previously was. It has size and location going for it, but little else.

lofter1
November 7th, 2008, 10:05 AM
The National Geographic program on the building of the BA Tower that aired last night had interesting info on the air filtration / circulation system in the building. The big circular vents that can be seen on the low-rise section at midblock above 42nd Street are part of that system.

Alonzo-ny
November 8th, 2008, 03:59 PM
BOA gets good effort marks but as for actual results it looks very clumsy.

lofter1
November 8th, 2008, 06:05 PM
The ~ 15-story indent that wraps around the facade at the corner of W 42 / Sixth is awkward -- hardly deep enough to make a good impression, and the way it meets the tower at the top of the indent is clumsy. Might have been more interesting if it had been designed as a framed cut-away with a full reveal all the way around.

meesalikeu
November 30th, 2008, 08:29 PM
from yesterday -- 42nd st view & bryant park view

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/meesalikeu2/P1150212.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/meesalikeu2/P1150213.jpg

one more from bryant park w/ it's newly clad partner

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/meesalikeu2/P1150219.jpg

JSsocal
November 30th, 2008, 09:31 PM
that first photo looks like a render, sweet shots :). I just want them to finish this damn thing :mad:

NYC4Life
December 2nd, 2008, 04:28 AM
Pretty amazing to think this building topped off a little over a year ago and we have yet to see the cladding complete.

stache
December 2nd, 2008, 05:37 AM
Gosh darn glass keeps falling off! ;)

NYC4Life
December 2nd, 2008, 05:42 AM
What glass? I don't see any :D

Tectonic
December 2nd, 2008, 09:48 PM
Anyone know what the hold up is?

AMGLANYC
December 3rd, 2008, 12:12 PM
There is new plywood on the building on the 17th floor. Any news on this? Did this fall to the street? Or perhaps just a crack? This has been the most troubled curtain wall in recent memory.

stache
December 3rd, 2008, 05:47 PM
Which explains the hold up. ;)

Pinkie
December 3rd, 2008, 07:17 PM
After further review, the architect decided to leave the glass off the top floors to give the skyscraper that contemporary, deconstructed feel to it :rolleyes:

JSsocal
December 3rd, 2008, 07:24 PM
to me this one may have a kind of weird look to it when finished. We're probably going to be used to it's incompleteness by the time it is finished :rolleyes:

AMGLANYC
December 4th, 2008, 03:44 PM
Is there any activity on finishing the crown? And what happened to the cool lighting effect that was posted here back in September? I have not seen it since.

DarrylStrawberry
December 6th, 2008, 08:36 AM
12.6.08

NYC4Life
December 6th, 2008, 06:01 PM
Just barely visible from Brooklyn.

meesalikeu
December 7th, 2008, 09:56 PM
can someone explain exactly what is going on with the random odd missing windows w/ plywood in them? are some of the windows popping out or something? thx

lofter1
December 8th, 2008, 12:36 AM
Things get broken during construction. Every building in town where the facade is going up has some random plywood fillers. They order anotehr one and fix it later. All the more problematic when the facade / curtain wall units aren't the same all around.

BrooklynLove
December 8th, 2008, 01:57 PM
It actually looks like they're filling in some of these with non-flush opaque surfaces - look closely the next time you walk by.

meesalikeu
December 14th, 2008, 07:19 PM
ha, i almost wondered if maybe the windows were blowing out, maybe due to some green technology feature, a la that building in boston. normal construction breaks i can understand.

Chrysler New Yorker
December 25th, 2008, 11:19 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/3135684769_b27e021d73_b.jpg

Love the new Metlife sign on the green Verizon building in front of BOA. Now onlookers from the top of the ESB will can go home and dream about getting a life insurance policy.

ramvid01
December 25th, 2008, 11:49 PM
Bookend MetLife logos on that picture. :p

nykid17
January 26th, 2009, 07:40 PM
Still no visible progress..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3479/3229266661_0b9e08c075.jpg

except for the inclosed section near the lobby

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3336/3229566584_05805ae758_b.jpg