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July 29th, 2009, 11:36 AM
Also 42nd Street between 6th and Broadway is now basically a deadzone. There's no reason to even pause while walking along that stretch. The bases of the Conde' Nast building and the BofA Tower are as sterile as they come. Not really the fault of the architects though if the developer didn't want much retail at street level.

Pity. Compare this stretch to the 42nd st. the next block over. IMO the rules for Times Square should have extended on 42nd street from 6th ave to 12th ave and on Eighth ave from 40th street to 57th.

July 29th, 2009, 08:43 PM
Yes, you're totally right about that stretch of 42nd now.
Retail would have been great there instead of that long, dead stretch of glass.

July 29th, 2009, 09:50 PM
And if you walk on the other side of the street you're treated to the wacky Christian lady with her megaphone and plaster fetus wall plaques. :p

July 29th, 2009, 09:57 PM
Once the new Met Life building finishes the plaza across 42nd from BA I wonder if the baby lady will move on? Her pics she waves at passers-by are disturbing ...

July 29th, 2009, 11:54 PM
I think she used to hang out in front of the Marquis, if I'm not mistaken.

July 30th, 2009, 01:15 AM
^^^ Not to get off topic, but who ever she is, she is friggin annoying...

July 30th, 2009, 06:07 AM
She always looks surprised at that. :confused:

July 30th, 2009, 11:33 AM
I can't stand that crazy broad.

July 30th, 2009, 11:56 AM
I doubt many people like her.

July 30th, 2009, 12:20 PM
Why is she allowed to have sound amplification like mics and megaphones?

July 30th, 2009, 02:59 PM
'First amendment.' :p :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

July 30th, 2009, 06:53 PM
First amendment.
A good thing.

July 31st, 2009, 12:09 AM
I always tell her to "Shut the f*ck up", when I pass her." She responds by calling me a "Homosexual" and "F*cking Faggot." It's a uniquely American debate.

July 31st, 2009, 01:42 AM
I only yell at her when she's on her phobe rant. Depending on what I'm wearing this can confuse her if I am reading str8 that day.

July 31st, 2009, 02:22 PM
'First amendment.'

I always thought there were certain stipulations attached.

So, you're all telling me I can go out with sound amplification equipment anywhere I like and no laws or regulations will apply? My goodness, all this time I thought using sound amplification devices required certain permits in the city.

July 31st, 2009, 02:29 PM
I always tell her to "Shut the f*ck up", when I pass her." She responds by calling me a "Homosexual" and "F*cking Faggot."

Hateful pseudo-religious fanatic.

99.99999% of "Christians" are the same: no clue about what their own religion actually preaches.
Christians, Muslims, Jews...all basically the same ridiculous and dangerous mythology and none of them want to face that fact.

To get back on topic, I passed by the thru-block passageway of BOA and there were some tables set up out there for the restaurant that just opened.

July 31st, 2009, 03:06 PM

All you need is a microphone and the world can know you're an idiot too!

July 31st, 2009, 04:49 PM
^Not subscribing to any of the "me-saved, you-not" sky deity religions makes me an idiot in your eyes...boo hoo.

Or is it just the part where I wish gone the sound amplifiers of moronic adherents like the woman on the sidewalk, whose bible-thumping condemnation of homosexuals reinforces hate, breeds violence, and attempts to give a twisted religious legitimacy to opposing homosexual identity and the rights of LGBT people.

IF the world were finally freed from the thought tyranny of those organized religions, and their ceaseless aggression against people who live differently, Earth would be a better place.

That woman on the street is aggressively condemning people who would otherwise peacefully accept her religiosity...but the use of loud microphones and speaker equipment instead of just her voice, on a public sidewalk, to engender disapproval and hate against a certain group of citizens is going way beyond civility.

I have nothing against believing in unseen truths, spirituality, etc., I have some of my own such beliefs. BUT my tolerance wears thin when false prophets start preaching against me or my rights. As I said, 99.99999% of "Christians" don't even understand, much less implement, the ideas of Jesus. How could they...much of it has been so twisted through the millennia. It's become a dangerous mythology hopelessly intertwined with the efforts of people to use it the wrong way.

July 31st, 2009, 05:10 PM
Now, back on topic, heathens!

July 31st, 2009, 06:10 PM
99.99999% of "Christians" don't even understand, much less implement, the ideas of Jesus. How could they...much of it has been so twisted through the millennia. It's become a dangerous mythology...
So true ... but I think it's more like 80.0000%

...hopelessly intertwined with the efforts of people to use it the wrong way.
Not so true (unless you insist upon it).

July 31st, 2009, 06:43 PM
I think it's more like 80.0000%

OK, fair enough;)

July 31st, 2009, 08:52 PM
The other 19.9% are incapacitated in nursing homes. :p

August 1st, 2009, 11:23 AM
...or are nursring.

August 5th, 2009, 03:19 PM
from the esb saturday morning...

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/meesalikeu2/number%20three/P1200234.jpg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/meesalikeu2/number%20three/P1200226.jpg


August 6th, 2009, 08:21 PM
I think that the aquamarine reno to the immediate South provides an excellent contrast.

August 10th, 2009, 06:04 PM
^ No question this stretch of 6th Avenue has been improved.

But it's still crap.

August 10th, 2009, 08:56 PM
That's an extremely valuable stretch so hopefully it will receive its justified investment.

August 15th, 2009, 09:03 PM

August 16th, 2009, 12:05 AM
This week ...







1 BP / B of A Tower

August 16th, 2009, 12:54 AM
IMO it looks much better closer to and including the top, and I wouldn't have imagined the top and bottom belonging to the same building if seeing them in isolation.

I love the colour of Metlife next door, but not the building.

August 16th, 2009, 10:53 AM
There is one empty retail / commercial spot available on W 42, between Aureole and The BA branch.

Any bets on what that will become?

August 16th, 2009, 11:35 AM
^Well surely not a bank. BOA wouldn't want to have competition in their own building. My bet, a restaurant.

August 16th, 2009, 11:59 AM
Duane Reade? ;)

August 16th, 2009, 12:15 PM
Duane Reade? ;)

Hush yo mouth ...


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August 16th, 2009, 12:54 PM
There is one empty retail / commercial spot available on W 42, between Aureole and The BA branch.

Any bets on what that will become?

Fed branch office.

Cessna Pilot
August 18th, 2009, 09:54 PM
Forgive me if this was posted already....


Bank of America’s Earnest Eco-Tower Rises From New York Slump

July 28 (Bloomberg) -- The cocked-hat silhouette of Bank of America (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=BAC%3AUS) Corp.’s new Manhattan skyscraper pokes a few stories higher than its Times Square neighbors, a testament to the aspirations of the Charlotte, North Carolina, bank when the design was unveiled in 2004.
The building was touted as costing $1 billion in 2004, and the bank has declined to update the figure. After the 64 percent slump in the bank’s shares since September, this glinting bundle of shards, nearing completion across from Bryant Park, could be considered a monument to bonus-coddled, overindulgent, corporate excess -- if it weren’t so dumpy. Worse, it’s gracelessly, earnestly green.
The Durst Organization (http://www.durst.org/master.htm), a developer, had over decades painstakingly assembled one of the largest sites to be found in Midtown. It took a state urban-development agency’s threat of eminent domain -- the government’s right to seize private property -- to complete acquisition of the full 2 acres. The site included Henry Miller’s Theater, a small Broadway playhouse that hosted both “Our Town” and “Urinetown,” which Durst pledged to replace while retaining its 1918 facade.
The bank joined Durst as a co-owner because the site permitted a tall, thick tower, with lower floors accommodating highly desirable trading floors, one 80,000 square feet. Many of the bank’s floors (it occupies 1.6 million of the building’s 2.4 million square feet) are as large as those found in the destroyed World Trade Center.
Architecture firm Cook & Fox (http://www.cookplusfox.com/), following a fast-fading fashion for crystalline forms, assembled faceted shafts, which are intended to visually slim large floors and take advantage of diagonal city vistas and views of Bryant Park.
Ungainly Matron
The 54-story result is among the most ungainly forms on the skyline, like a matron who swathes herself in thick layers of fabric in a vain attempt to slim her burgeoning silhouette. The tower climaxes with a spire as impressive as an auto antenna.
Cook & Fox touts One Bryant Park as “the world’s most environmentally responsible high-rise office building.”
This is an overstatement. Around the world, eco-buildings have moved far beyond this design. Still, Durst has a reputation as a green-building leader because its U.S. competition is so timid. Dan Tishman (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Dan+Tishman&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1), chairman and chief executive officer of Tishman Construction Corp., spelled out why on a recent walkthrough.
“America lags because we live in an energy-subsidized economy,” he said.
The key green advances are a co-generation plant that is especially useful in summer, when it reduces demand from the most polluting power plants. The building ventilates through the floor rather than the ceiling, decreasing power use while offering each occupant control over his own thermal comfort.
Filtered Air
The air is filtered of dust and harmful gasses to a much higher degree than in most existing buildings. The bank said it expects measurable increases in productivity and employee satisfaction from the improved air quality.
Because the windows are made of an especially clear glass, called low-iron, the deep floors are bathed in daylight, allowing sensors to dim electric bulbs. The light and views are a joy compared with the cave-like interiors of most towers.
Though bands of white ceramic dots fused onto the glass are designed to cut unwanted sun, a bank official said the company had regretted not investing in shades that would automatically lower when the sun beats in.
Assuming the rest of One Bryant Park’s green measures work better, such above-and-beyond commitment may pay off, since harvesting water from bathroom sinks and improving air quality may soon be mandated.
Nervous Moire
I wish Cook & Fox could package green more appealingly. On the exterior the alternating bands of clear and white glass create a nervous moire.
The clumsy gigantism of the tower overwhelms the neo- Georgian delicacy of the retained facade of Henry Miller’s Theater. Behind the entrance, Cook & Fox dropped the new 1,055- seat theater one level below the street to allow bank trading floors to run unimpeded overhead. Seating and other accommodations -- especially women’s bathrooms -- are generous, but murky colors deflate anticipation. Contemporary fussiness in details fights with archeological sanctimony. Bits of the old theater are mounted like museum exhibits.
Pity the resident Roundabout Theatre Company (http://www.byebyebirdieonbroadway.com/) which must breathe life into this mausoleum with “Bye Bye Birdie,” opening in September.
At the planning stage, City Planning Commissioner Amanda Burden (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Amanda%0ABurden&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) wisely insisted that Cook & Fox include some nice street- level amenities, like an “urban garden room” that will feature plantings sculpted in the style of “Edward Scissorhands,” generous sidewalks, and new subway entrances. Like the rest of the design, these bits seem added on rather than integrated into the whole.
Combining soaring form, welcome urbanity and green innovation is certainly challenging, but good intentions are ill-served by such feeble expression.
(James S. Russell (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=James+S.+Russell&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) is Bloomberg’s U.S. architecture critic. The opinions expressed are his own.)
OBP Trading Floor:


HM Theater


August 19th, 2009, 01:38 AM
Maybe I posted this before, does anyone remember when this theater was Annabelle's nightclub?

August 19th, 2009, 06:29 AM
Russell tells it like it is. This building is gauche and clumsy.

August 19th, 2009, 11:58 AM
This building is a textbook example of poor execution.:cool: I would have sacraficed the funds commited to that haphazard "spire" on top of it for a more quality facade that would have actually accentuated this buildings qualities.

August 20th, 2009, 09:42 AM
They're mounting the giant sliding doors that make up the eastern wall of the Urban Garden Room. Based on their installation, it looks like they will be able to open the walls to the street. They roll upwards like giant casement windows.

August 20th, 2009, 09:36 PM
In this shot over at curbed the BofA apex looks spellbinding.

August 20th, 2009, 11:00 PM

August 24th, 2009, 11:05 PM

August 28th, 2009, 07:50 PM
Bank of America with 3 other giants (from the observation deck at 30 rock). I like it better from this angle than the ground... but I'd still put it in 4th place compared to its compatriots in the midtown skyline.


September 1st, 2009, 02:35 PM
Some nice shots posted by NYGuy from SkyscraperPage. They've been doing a better job keeping on top of construction than we are.

hoveringcheesecake (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34471641@N07/3817980635/in/set-72157620967620515/)

hoveringcheesecake (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34471641@N07/3820038677/sizes/l/in/set-72157620967620515/)

M. Leigh (http://www.flickr.com/photos/m_leigh/3856514832/sizes/l/)

September 1st, 2009, 04:04 PM

It's so amazing how the New York Times Tower makes everything around it better.

September 1st, 2009, 04:07 PM
I thought I had posted those top two here a while ago. Oops.

September 7th, 2009, 02:12 AM
Nope but they're fantastic shots.

zoltaan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoltaan/3889867088/)

September 13th, 2009, 03:14 PM
tgeorg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/17599980@N04/3912494955/sizes/l/)

September 13th, 2009, 03:18 PM
^ Trusswork wherever you look.

September 14th, 2009, 01:13 PM
Random vistas...





September 14th, 2009, 04:15 PM
Are they ever going to install those last few glass panels on the crown???

September 15th, 2009, 01:44 PM
They're mounting the giant sliding doors that make up the eastern wall of the Urban Garden Room. Based on their installation, it looks like they will be able to open the walls to the street. They roll upwards like giant sash windows.

They've planted/installed several huge free-form topiaries in the urban garden room.

September 15th, 2009, 10:22 PM
9/4/09 - From A Daily Dose of Architecture (http://archidose.blogspot.com/2009/09/dem-dirty-windows.html)

"Window cleaners work their way down one of the bays on the west side of The Bank of America Tower at One Bryant Park, designed by Cook + Fox."


September 16th, 2009, 09:20 PM
Will they ever open that midblock subway entrance and passageway between 6th and 7th? I thought it had been scrapped, but there is one of those subway globe lamps at the midblock passageway. Does anyone know?

September 17th, 2009, 12:12 AM
That entrance is on hold.

September 17th, 2009, 06:26 PM
Holding for what ?

September 17th, 2009, 08:04 PM
Some snafu between city agencies ...

From the 2004 Public Hearing:

A public benefit of this project is that it will enhance public transportation facilities by providing a number of subway related amenities.

These new facilities include a stair and glass entry pavilion within the property line at the northwest corner of Sixth and 42ndStreet, providing a new below ground walkway between Sixth Avenue subways and the Times Square subways, and new stairs at the western end of the site to this passageway. This connection will expand the capacity of 42ndStreet for pedestrian movement and will allow pedestrians to walk below ground from Eighth Avenue to Fifth Avenue.

The character of these below grade passages needs to be addressed, particularly if it is in the free or paid zone, and whether there will be retail.

September 25th, 2009, 06:14 PM
JamesPolk (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhcarter3/3060329720/sizes/l/in/set-72157618585788993/)

October 11th, 2009, 04:25 PM
Still lots of window cleaning to be done:



What are those things? They look like cellular antennae:




Can you guess where the construction elevator was? ;)



The winter garden.. you'll have to squint



October 11th, 2009, 09:04 PM
I'm sorry but I find this building amusing at times. Any know what the story is behind the 'side walk shed' around the 6th & 42nd side?

October 11th, 2009, 09:18 PM



October 12th, 2009, 07:36 AM

Curtain goes up on the new Henry Miller's Theatre at One Bryant Park

Cook + Fox recreated the facade of the old Henry Miller Theater in the base of the firm's One Bryant Park office tower.

In its previous incarnations over the last nine decades, Henry Miller’s Theatre on West 43rd Street has been a Broadway mainstay, a discotheque, and a porn palace. Reaching back into the past was therefore something of a delicate matter for Cook + Fox Architects, which has resurrected the theater’s glory days in the base of the firm’s Bank of America tower that soars 55 stories above.

The interior is a departure from the historic space, though it riffs on its past, as well as that of Miller's.

There are many new pieces, as well, such as this bar, all of which include sustainable features.

The designers sought to make the theater a direct extension of Miller's thoughts on dramaturgy.

Fortunately, designers found a guiding spirit in the original theater’s namesake, the actor and producer Henry W. Miller. “This is a unique typology: a Broadway theater with a shallow balcony arch that keeps the audience close to the stage,” said partner Rick Cook, noting that the 1918 venue emphasized a direct relationship between audience and actors, “We had the benefit of Henry Miller’s writing about what made a great theater, and we wanted to preserve that typology.”

Working for the civic-minded Durst Organization, which built the tower, known as One Bryant Park, designers also aspired to connect the performing arts to the broader urban experience. The most obvious link to both the past and the public was the neo-Georgian facade, a city landmark that remained in place throughout the process of construction. The design team also placed artifacts from the old theater on the walls, while salvaged bits of the original plaster proscenium adorn the stage.

But a larger opportunity lay in the way the former space is knit into the tower complex. “Because it was part of a much larger project,” Cook said, “we wanted to make sure it would benefit from being part of One Bryant Park. We could have the midblock entrance and a really unique experience.”

To that end, the midblock passage features a portrait of the rakish Miller in “kinetic sequins” that enliven the entry for bank employees and lawyers who daily pass through the space, according to Keith Helmetag, a principal of C&G Partners, which worked on signage and navigation plans from the corporate lobby and midblock loggia to the theater.

Sustainable features, the hallmark of One Bryant Park, also extend to the 1,055-seat theater’s public and private spaces. “This was an opportunity for a Broadway theater to benefit from technologies developed for a larger project—stormwater capture, and energy that’s about three times as efficient as the grid,” Cook said. “People will feel a much higher quality of air, with 95 percent particulate filtration.” In a nod to Douglas Durst’s fidelity to green demonstrations, the project, which aims for LEED Gold status, will also include carbon-dioxide sensors and what Helmetag described as a “green clock” in the midblock space charting the energy savings in the tower and other sustainability-tuned buildings around the world.

And then there are the bathrooms. Behind the angled mezzanine seats facing the stage, and via a broad winding staircase, red-walled restrooms dominate the middle level. These are said to be the most capacious restrooms in the industry (boasting 22 fixtures in the women’s room), with a bar placed one level below to avoid cramping space. Designers also moved the dressing room under the seats, and placed the orchestra pit directly under the stage, where it sits more or less alongside ice storage. Among other benefits, these moves help the circulation plan provide for ample entrances from stage left and right.

These strategies get their first test on October 15, when John Stamos and Gina Gershon stride onto the stage, confront sloping rows of bright-red seats, and tear through Bye Bye Birdie as the kickoff for the Roundabout Theatre Company’s 20-year lease of the space.


October 12th, 2009, 05:26 PM
I'm sorry but I find this building amusing at times. Any know what the story is behind the 'side walk shed' around the 6th & 42nd side?

Among other things, they are still installing the "Bank of America Tower" lettering atop the canopy ...


October 12th, 2009, 06:55 PM
I don't like the cursive Henry Miller Theatre on the the minimalist glass. Make it one style or the other. Either make the type modern or make the background traditional. Cook + Fox handled the theatre horribly, that said I rather like the tower. It could've been better but its a good addition to the City.

October 12th, 2009, 07:01 PM
That rendering shows trees on the corner of 42nd and 6th...I hope these are still part of the plan after the shed is removed.

October 12th, 2009, 07:10 PM
You don't like the silly topiaries that they've planted there?

October 13th, 2009, 08:06 AM
Actually no I don't care for them in comparison to real trees, but I meant the other trees that are outside, along 42nd st.

October 13th, 2009, 08:46 AM
Aha -- Yes, those trees on 42nd would be a very welcome addition.

October 13th, 2009, 09:01 AM
They will help soften what is now a very austere block...I hate the way BOA meets the street along 42nd and disses it. A very long, boring block to walk along now...my biggest gripe with 90% of the new towers is their streetscape-killing bases. This is one of the worst, and in a place that screams for street level interest; the corridor leading into Times Square deserved better.

October 14th, 2009, 08:08 PM
It looks so much better when you omit the fat base:
And the verticality of the lines picks up right where the Grace and HBO towers left off.

October 14th, 2009, 08:28 PM
They will help soften what is now a very austere block...I hate the way BOA meets the street along 42nd and disses it. A very long, boring block to walk along now...my biggest gripe with 90% of the new towers is their streetscape-killing bases. This is one of the worst, and in a place that screams for street level interest; the corridor leading into Times Square deserved better.

Have you seen that high-end restaurant that opened on the 42nd Street side? It looks nice and helps enliven the stretch a bit. Of course a typical New Yorker can't eat there...


Bank of America Tower’s Aureole Serves Pastrami, $180 Pairing

Review by Ryan Sutton
Sept. 30 (Bloomberg)

Bank of America Corp. Chief Executive Officer Kenneth Lewis, who paid $2.5 billion for Countrywide Financial Corp. and $29 billion for Merrill Lynch & Co., can now enjoy a $180 Krug champagne-paired tasting menu in the company “cafeteria” at the base of its new $1 billion Manhattan skyscraper.

Or he could save money and order some pastrami in the same joint. My advice: Get the pastrami.

Welcome to Aureole -- not really a mess hall. Charlie Palmer has relocated the fine-dining gem of his restaurant empire from a townhouse on the quiet Upper East Side to a heavily trafficked stretch on the edge of Times Square. That means tourists, Conde Nast editors and bankers who drop in from upstairs.

And since bankers aren’t eating as lavishly as they used to, there’s a new casual component to the restaurant: a bar room up front with pork-belly pastrami sliders. They’re slathered with Russian dressing that cuts through the fatty spiced meat.

I’d recommend these little $15 sandwiches to Lewis, even though a chief executive may prefer to indulge in a square $180 meal every now and then (It’s $115 without wine). But that supper, just like billion-dollar acquisitions, needs to offer value. This one doesn’t.

It’s a parallel tasting menu. Fish eggs are prepared two ways: Sun trout roe, atop a bland mound of crab, explodes into a briny bliss; the second dish, American caviar, nearly disappears amid a horseradish creme fraiche sauce.

Culinary Redundancy

Flatfish comes two ways too: Dover sole is speckled with brilliant hints of slightly sweet, slightly musty champagne grapes; Atlantic gray sole is fried to a flavorless crisp, Gorton’s fish-stick style.

Course three is red meat, yet again, two ways: A slice of duck breast and a slice of underseared dry-aged strip steak. You eat the duck first, which is a mistake, since your beef is now cold. You’re still hungry after the minuscule portions. So you fill up on course four: cheesecake two ways, one with ricotta, the other with blue cheese. No wonder America keeps getting fatter.

Chef Christopher Lee, who led Midtown’s Gilt to two- Michelin stars, is to blame for this expensive experiment; Adam Tihany, the designer, is to blame for the interiors. The low dining-room ceiling does little to remind you you’re in Manhattan’s second-tallest building.


Tables are cramped -- the rear ends of waiters can hover dangerously close to your face. Raucous businessmen can raise the sound to unbearable levels. Refuse to sit at a table near the bar room: A lack of doors separating the spaces results in cacophony.

The fare is billed as progressive American. Here’s what that means: Christopher Lee takes excellent ingredients and manipulates the flavor out of them.

Take the diver scallops, on the three-course, $84 prix- fixe. The bivalves are typically seared on the outside and left rare inside. But Lee sees a need to deconstruct where no one else does. His textureless scallop is topped with a crunchy disk, with overseared foie gras thrown on top to make things fancy. A good scallop is complex. Lee’s is complicated.

Remoulade, tasty on its own, is disassembled into sour little purees of shallots, cornichons and lemon. Don’t let the misplaced molecular gastronomy touch your soft-shell crab. Lee also takes mirin, a Japanese cooking wine, and whips it into foam that mimics the taste of shaving cream.

Haute Office Fare

Like Nissin’s “Cup Noodles’’? Lee goes through all the effort to recreate the signature mushy pasta and thin broth of the $1 office snack. Cost: $25 for the pork-belly noodle bowl at lunch. The $19 bar burger is a mix of expertly aged beef overwhelmed by a ramp dressing; the sweet sauce is a ringer for the “special sauce” at McDonald’s.

The food’s not all bad. Short ribs inject a welcome hint of beefiness into a sweet carrot soup. Tuna Wellington is a clever, hearty interplay of soft dough and softer, rare fish. And perhaps a man like Lewis can afford a bad meal or two to find the winning dishes here. But the rest of us cannot.

Rating: *
The Bloomberg Questions

Cost? Prix-fixe at $84, $115. A la carte at bar room.

Sound level? Unusually loud for fine dining.

Date place? No. It says you’re trying too hard.

Inside tip? Eat at the bar; skip the stuffy dining room.

Special feature? Excellent value $65 wine pairing.

Private room? Yes.

Will I be back? For the pastrami sliders and wine.

Aureole is at 135 West 42nd St. in the Bank of America Tower. Information: +1-212-319-1660; http://www.charliepalmer.com

October 15th, 2009, 07:37 PM
Have you seen that high-end restaurant that opened on the 42nd Street side? It looks nice and helps enliven the stretch a bit. Of course a typical New Yorker can't eat there...

Yes, I have seen the restaurant and it's very nicely designed. Unfortunately it can't compensate for that very long stretch of lobby and dumb bank branch.

October 16th, 2009, 08:56 PM
Don't waste your money in this restaurant unless you're trying to get laid. Food, atmosphere and service are decent but not worth the price of a nice laser printer.

November 18th, 2009, 04:40 PM
The first 40 or so floors of the wedge of light are on now..... :):):D

November 18th, 2009, 06:07 PM
Wow! I've been wondering about that. Does it look good? Maybe I'll go over there tonight to check it out.

November 18th, 2009, 06:40 PM
Lets see pics!!:)

November 18th, 2009, 08:46 PM
Pic of light effect from this evening...

November 18th, 2009, 08:49 PM
Here is another

November 18th, 2009, 08:53 PM
Thank you! :) Hopefully it will be done by the end of the decade.

November 19th, 2009, 12:32 AM
Yes I may be in Manhattan again on Friday and hopefully BoFA has its light wedge on again so I can get some pics of it, and hopefully its more complete than it was in those pictures. They need that crown lit damn it. :D

I saw that Goldman Sachs had its decorative lights on in pictures last week and then when I went on Tuesday, they weren't on so I was disappointed. :(

November 19th, 2009, 01:19 AM
You would have been disappointed either way.

November 19th, 2009, 04:52 AM
I snapped a few, but it was in a hurry.





November 19th, 2009, 10:19 AM
Nice ^ and the signature is a good touch.

November 19th, 2009, 11:20 AM
It looks nice at night. But then again - so do most skyscrapers - especially in b/w.

Nice pics!

November 19th, 2009, 01:02 PM
They should light the crown in a way similar to Bear Stearns.

November 19th, 2009, 07:18 PM
A sharp blade of light in the cloudy sky
Crown of BOA from 43rd street:

November 20th, 2009, 08:49 PM

November 20th, 2009, 09:04 PM
Disappointment again, eh?
nice pic irregardlessly.

November 21st, 2009, 07:58 AM
This must be the weirdest new building in the city. Guess it must be all the new technology. :rolleyes:

November 21st, 2009, 09:17 AM
Well the night-time illumination is that way because of this LEED credit that aims to limit light pollution from buildings.


i. Minimize light trespass from the building and site, reduce sky-glow to increase
night sky access, improve nighttime visibility through glare reduction, and reduce
development impact on nocturnal environments.

ii. Interior Lighting: angle of maximum candela from each interior luminaire is
located to intersect opaque interior surfaces and not exit out through the windows
OR All non-emergency interior lighting shall be automatically controlled to turn off
during non-business hours AND provide manual override capability for after-
hours use.

iii. Exterior Lighting: Only light areas for safety and comfort. Do not exceed 80% of
the lighting power densities for exterior areas and 50% for building facades and
landscape features as defined in ASHRAE 90.1-2004 (Ext. Lighting). All projects
shall be classified under one of the IESNA RP-33 zones, and shall follow the
requirements of these zones: LZ1 Dark, LZ2 Low, LZ3 Medium, LZ4 High.

b. Submittal Requirements:

i. Provide the LEED Letter Template, signed by a lighting designer.

ii. Interiors: Provide project lighting drawings (interior and site), confirmation of
interior lighting design evaluation OR that automatic controls have been installed

iii. For projects with no exterior lighting: confirm that no exterior lighting has been

iv. For projects with exterior lighting: complete the lighting power density tables on
the submittal template, confirm the site zone classification, complet the site
lumen calculation, provide a narrative (not optional)

November 21st, 2009, 01:30 PM
That should explain why they go a year between lighting up the wedge for about a week. :D

By the way, if they will continue with the lighting, they should get a little more creative. That is, use different colors ala the ESB and perhaps different patterns.

November 21st, 2009, 03:12 PM
I'd prefer that they not get too flashy over Bryant Park. Plenty of that a block to the west.

November 23rd, 2009, 05:22 PM
The white lights of the wedge are in a good dialogue with the white triangles of the Chrysler crown when you stand between the two of them on 42nd street.

November 23rd, 2009, 07:05 PM
Much ado about nothing! Worrying about light pollution in New York City is ludicrous. This is NOT an exciting building, by any measure.

James Kovata
November 23rd, 2009, 07:52 PM
I guess the LEED requirements rule out lighting for the crown. I watched the end of the CBS Evening News, which had a shot of the ESB. I did see BoA, and the wedge appeared to be on. Although the wedge is nice, it doesn't really make the building stand out in my humble opinion. Is the wedge intended to extend all the way to the top of the curtain wall above the roof line? If that's the finished product, it may stand out after all.

November 23rd, 2009, 10:43 PM
This evening ...







November 24th, 2009, 12:04 AM
Oh sure, days I don't go... the whole thing is on. Days I do go, I get a sliver. :rolleyes:

November 24th, 2009, 12:25 AM
Oh wow, that actually looks really cool!

November 24th, 2009, 07:42 AM
Looks good this time. Except for the patches.

November 24th, 2009, 09:46 AM
It would look even better if the wedge actually came to a point at the bottom.

November 25th, 2009, 08:03 PM
Yeah needs one more floor I think.

November 26th, 2009, 04:13 AM
Love those night shots and that blue lighting on the side!! :)

James Kovata
November 26th, 2009, 09:28 AM
It would look even better if the wedge actually came to a point at the bottom.

It would also look great if the wedge were lit all the way to the very top of the crown, which it's a tad bit short of doing in a couple of the pics. It would not only look like a wedge, but like a shard of glass.

December 2nd, 2009, 10:50 PM
It would also look great if the wedge were lit all the way to the very top of the crown, which it's a tad bit short of doing in a couple of the pics. It would not only look like a wedge, but like a shard of glass.

It is tonight.

December 2nd, 2009, 10:54 PM
The entire triangle?

December 3rd, 2009, 12:21 AM
Nope, same thing we've been seeing.
It's nice how you can see it from Union Square.

December 3rd, 2009, 10:14 PM
BostonCityWalk (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/4145056125/sizes/l/)


gula08 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gula08/4117380993/sizes/l/in/pool-63919873@N00/)

December 5th, 2009, 11:48 PM
On my horrible camera on my phone tonight:


December 6th, 2009, 01:05 PM
Here's another from last night:


December 6th, 2009, 03:45 PM
And there's the answer for those who were wondering if it'll be lit all the way to the top.

December 6th, 2009, 03:57 PM
nipspix (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nipspix/4162832005/sizes/l/in/pool-35034350743@N01/)

ianlayzellphotographs (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianlayzellphotographs/3987627547/sizes/l/in/pool-345807@N21/)

December 6th, 2009, 04:01 PM
Love it or hate it, you have to admit that it is very photogenic.

In a sea of buildings, it always seem to just grab your attention. The NY Times building is another that also does that.

December 7th, 2009, 08:45 PM
bertgonzalez (http://bighugelabs.com/onblack.php?id=3897206997&size=large)

December 7th, 2009, 08:49 PM
This building is awesome.

December 8th, 2009, 06:57 PM
Dunno starting to dislike it...starting to feeling the building that was never completed...

I have a thing against unfinished business, especially when they're so 'simple'.

December 8th, 2009, 07:35 PM
Seems they've left out those few panes up top on the SE corner to allow workmen access to the hanging scaffolding.

December 8th, 2009, 07:48 PM
The previous pic is not very recent.

The one below is more recent.

What's the matter you people?

BostonCityWalk (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bostoncitywalk/4145056125/sizes/l/)

December 9th, 2009, 03:58 PM
Yep... definitely looks that blah during the day in person. At least it looks nice at night.

December 10th, 2009, 02:26 AM
Love this!

James Kovata
December 12th, 2009, 05:11 PM
OK, I know this is going to sound like a stupid question, but is the decorative lighting actually in someone's suite? Or is it between floors?

December 15th, 2009, 08:13 PM

December 16th, 2009, 08:30 PM
They've been straggling along in lighting the last few missing rows for weeks.

December 16th, 2009, 08:48 PM
At what point are the environmental extremists going to demand these decorative lights be turned off, in order to "save" electricity, "save" the earth, "save" migratory waterfowl, etc? Heck, we might as well shut off ALL decorative lighting in New York City, which would place us squarely back in the stone age...say, uh, 1974. The dark ages.

Been through it once, and I don't care to go through it again.

As for the building, the decorative lights are one of its few things that I like about it. Manhattan, taken as a whole, is a dim bulb at night, as compared to Tokyo, Shanghai, or Paris. So I find it terrific when light is used a decoration. It adds to the night flair, and helps to make the city appealing on many levels.

December 16th, 2009, 09:00 PM
I agree that lighting can really transform and enhance a city.
Further down 42nd, the Silver Towers are both crowned with illumination so that adds a couple more bright spots. :)
Over all though, I think the NY illumination that does exist looks a lot more dignified than the type of skyscraper lighting schemes you see in Eastern cities, which can take on a glitzy Vegas character by night. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just different than lighting in NY.

As for the environmental thing, I think as we develop more sustainable methods of lighting even the most zealous people would still make some allowances for beauty!

December 16th, 2009, 09:01 PM
As you wrote, we've done it before & no doubt that cycle will come around again.

Just as in summer droughts we've shut off our fountains and let the lawns and trees go brown.

New York goes up and then it goes down and round and round.

400+ years.

December 16th, 2009, 10:26 PM
Mid afternoon from uptown ...







1 BP

December 17th, 2009, 03:11 PM
Wonderful shots! You can just feel the crisp wintery air in them.

aural iNK
December 18th, 2009, 10:00 PM

December 18th, 2009, 10:46 PM
Giant triangle in the sky.

December 18th, 2009, 10:48 PM
The building looks great at night. Much better than in the daytime IMO. The way the lit wedge looms over 42nd street to the east is a very cool effect.

It also looks much better in arial shots as opposed to the somewhat bulky feel at street level.

Lastly, the crown from the west side gives me an impression of what the diamonds at the top of WTC 2 might look like.

December 19th, 2009, 01:43 AM
Any theory as to why the lights at the top of the crown have a greenish tinge, and the ones at the bottom of the wedge have that bluish tinge?

December 19th, 2009, 09:30 AM
Giant triangle in the sky.

Giant Gatorade billboard.

December 19th, 2009, 10:38 AM
Anybody else wish they lit up the spire too?

December 19th, 2009, 10:56 AM
I noticed last week that some of the lights in the wedge were already flickering, like they needed to replaced.

That was a bit annoying.

December 19th, 2009, 11:57 AM

syume (http://www.flickr.com/photos/syume/4187321110/sizes/l/)

I agree that our night skyline is too dark, especially downtown and Midtown East. There are lots of buildings that would do well with some dignified accent lighting, like 500 Fifth.
And with all the setbacks on some of our towers, just imagine...look at the Paramount Building.

Also, it looks like they've finally started to light the dome of Cityspire again.

December 19th, 2009, 12:18 PM
Some people here at various times have said they hated Condé Nast, One Bryant Park and to a lesser degree, the NY Times building but all those three have done so much to make the city's skyline fresh and exciting.

The skyline would look dramatically more drab and unimpressive without them.

December 19th, 2009, 06:07 PM


Now for a trip into the winter garden. I didn't get many good shots 'cause I had to concern myself with not letting security see what I was doing!





December 19th, 2009, 06:12 PM
This building is so weird and uncoordinated to me. I don't get it.

December 19th, 2009, 08:16 PM

This would have been a nice angle for the original proposal with the second spire.

Still a nice shot and a beatiful building regardless

January 14th, 2010, 06:04 PM
This first shot seems to be in the small space where the night-time LED lights shine down.

Collin Erickson

Collin Erickson

May 10th, 2010, 03:37 AM

May 10th, 2010, 10:53 AM
looking at that picture of the ESB it looks awful lonely and the area surrounding it is pretty bleak. sure does look like the ESB could use some company.

May 10th, 2010, 11:46 AM
Now that is a different angle.

May 10th, 2010, 01:00 PM
looking at that picture of the ESB it looks awful lonely and the area surrounding it is pretty bleak. sure does look like the ESB could use some company.

Surround it by a bunch of 500 - 800' towers and its full power will get lost amid the saplings.

The ESB should stand tall and alone -- as if others were adequately respectful / fearful to venture too close.

May 10th, 2010, 01:16 PM
Well, if we hold the ESB to be NYC's version of the Eiffel tower, it may hurt us in the end. As we have seen with the MOMA building, we need to move foward and create new landmarks of the 21st century or risk turning into the Rome or Venice of today. For example, the Penn Station tower should be allowed to go ahead, even though it is close to the ESB. Sentamentalism for the ESB should not be allowed to hinder us moving foward. There is nothing wrong with keeping the surround blocks free of supertalls, but that should be as far as it goes. There is no grand avenue or park leading up to this building, it isn't some sacred monument or axis like some claim...nor is it as good a building as claimed.

May 10th, 2010, 01:25 PM
The Vornado Tower site is nearly 1/4 mile away from ESB. I'm talking about new buildings going up in the direct vicinity. Of course such construction will happen some day, but it's hard to argue that when the ESB is hidden so that the full building and all its height is not fully viewable then it will not be diminished.

May 10th, 2010, 01:26 PM
... nor is it as good a building as claimed.

poppycock ;)

May 10th, 2010, 03:23 PM
The view of the ESB looking south from the Rock is an iconic perspective as emblematic of NYC as the Eiffel tower is to Paris. Care should be taken if that perspective is to be lost. Back to BofA, more height might have added some grace to its form. This was an opportunity for spectacular architecture lost. No Bronx cheers perhaps, but neither a standing ovation.

May 10th, 2010, 04:41 PM
This building is so weird and uncoordinated to me. I don't get it.
Has all the grace of a slug.

May 10th, 2010, 06:58 PM
A few more from this weekend




Sluglike grace aside, the glass looked quite stunning, although it could've been less the building and more that great late afternoon sun.

James Kovata
May 11th, 2010, 10:00 AM
The building is a good one, not a great one. It would have been great if it the mass of the building were taller. The spire just looks too tall for the building. My fear with the wedge is that, if the building's engineers don't get it right, the building's owners will scrap it altogether. The engineers should get it right, and the owners should also pay to flood light the entire building.

May 11th, 2010, 12:08 PM
Did they ever finish the wedge of light?

May 11th, 2010, 02:38 PM
They have the big Bank of America letters on 3 sides and they should be lit. Even i can see that. you can't read it at night.

May 11th, 2010, 04:54 PM
So when are they finally going to get rid of that damn street level scaffolding

May 11th, 2010, 05:28 PM
It's gone.

May 11th, 2010, 10:47 PM
It's gone.
well it was there as recently as 3 weeks ago, I will have to go and take another look

May 12th, 2010, 05:35 PM
I agree should have been taller. And I wouldn't even call that thing up top a spire more like a glorified flag pole.

James Kovata
May 13th, 2010, 10:13 AM
I agree should have been taller. And I wouldn't even call that thing up top a spire more like a glorified flag pole.

It looks more like a leaning TV/radio tower of the type that one would see in less dense urban and/or rural areas.

May 13th, 2010, 11:09 AM
It's big and clunky, and I don't like it. The spire is a complete waste and does not add anything to the architectural value of this building. How this thing moved off the drawing board and made it through the boardroom is beyond me.

May 13th, 2010, 03:28 PM
Wasnt the orginal design of the building supposed to be around 950 ft? Maybe the last minute 100 ft revision is what makes the building look so odd.

May 13th, 2010, 04:08 PM
I thought the height was 944 feet to the highest point below the spire.

That was changed?

May 13th, 2010, 04:13 PM
That's what I thought too. I doubt it changed and nobody here picked up on it.

May 13th, 2010, 04:44 PM
Curbed has shots today of the shed-free front:

Bank of America Tower Exposes Itself, Then Gets Shy (http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2010/05/13/bank_of_america_tower_exposes_itself_then_gets_shy .php#more)

May 13th, 2010, 04:56 PM
I think you guys are correct. The southern roof rises to 944ft and the north rises to 858ft. I just thought the original render had the roof at a taller height. Guess not..

May 14th, 2010, 12:23 PM
The warm glow from the lobby really helps. Otherwise, the entire base would be cold and sterile just like the rest of the tower.


May 14th, 2010, 06:58 PM
The wood planking on the underside of the cantilever helps to warm it up as well. Once the little trees along 42nd get bigger it will soften up the glass and steel. Plus, the fact that the lobby is set back from the corner leaves lots of room to move there (finally, after years of sidewalk sheds and blockages of all sorts).

James Kovata
May 14th, 2010, 07:25 PM
It's so warm and friendly that I want to open a Bank of America account. (Not.) But, I still like the building.

May 18th, 2010, 09:22 PM
This, Goldman Sachs, Bloomberg Tower, the former Lehman Brothers Building all seem to come from the same family.

As Goldberger said:
... a building that would appear modern but nowhere near the architectural cutting edge; neither cheap nor extravagant; and efficient without seeming merely functional.

This tower seemed to try a little harder, but it isn't fooling anyone. The architects tried their best I guess. Despite all the cuts, it hardly rises above its pragmatic neighbors.
Fedesk8 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/65047271@N00/3757399611/)

May 19th, 2010, 03:19 PM
The coloring of that photo does the reclad verizon no favors. At least the green they chose is unique for the city.

May 19th, 2010, 07:36 PM
Fedesk6 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/65047271@N00/4618931304/)

May 19th, 2010, 08:26 PM
I really do like the look of the new green glass, however the ground level skin is awful.

May 19th, 2010, 10:26 PM
Looks pretty awkward from Bryant Park:


May 19th, 2010, 11:03 PM
I agree. Stone would have been a better choice.

May 20th, 2010, 10:19 AM
I'll third that. Not really taken by the glass at the base. It doesn't play will with the park. I think they could have taken the green all the way to the curb and it would have been interesting.

May 20th, 2010, 10:39 AM
I bet they will redo the base fairly quickly.

May 21st, 2010, 07:08 AM






May 21st, 2010, 11:16 AM
I like the wedge of light. A little understated, but appropriate for the city.

May 21st, 2010, 11:31 AM
From those angles, a very nice accent. I think it is the twilight that helps in these visuals.

May 21st, 2010, 02:47 PM
They've also begun lighting the entire top. I saw it from the Brooklyn Bridge and it looks really nice.

RomainPA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42270690@N05/4622164572/)

RomainPA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42270690@N05/4622164572/)

May 21st, 2010, 04:37 PM
I agree. I saw it last weekend.

May 23rd, 2010, 01:45 PM
May 22nd, 2010


May 24th, 2010, 02:08 PM
It's beautiful at night.

Love it.

May 27th, 2010, 01:13 PM
Photographers FYI:

There are small metal markers in the pavement at the corners of both West 42nd & 43rd showing how far the 1BP property line extends out into the sidewalk:

43rd / Sixth:


Notice the amount of sidewalk under the control of BA (the marker is at bottom left);
it seems to line up with the eastern side of the new subway staircase enclosure:


42nd / Sixth:



May 29th, 2010, 03:02 PM
I don't like that. It's too gloating. Like boasting how much you give to charity. 'Look how much sidewalk we've given you'

May 29th, 2010, 03:34 PM
You see them all over the city. Pretty much anywhere that a building has pulled back from the property line there's a marker imbedded in the pavement (hmmm .. possible photo essay?) It might even be a legal requirement of some sort. Most are so discrete that you never notice. If I hadn't specifically been looking for these I'd have walked right over them (as everybody else was doing when I was there getting these shots).

May 29th, 2010, 04:16 PM
A post from July 2004, when the the design for 1BP was still evolving:

Testimony at public hearing on 20 November 2003 in support of One Bryant Park

4) Public Amenity Spaces

The project will provide a number of pedestrian circulation amenities. These spaces include a 5’ sidewalk widening on 42nd Street, an open entrance plaza on the south side of the site at 42nd Street and Sixth Avenue, an enclosed “urban garden room” to the north at 43rd Street and Sixth Avenue, and a through block arcade at the west end of the site connecting 42nd and 43rd Streets.

May 29th, 2010, 04:37 PM
I don't like that. It's too gloating. Like boasting how much you give to charity. 'Look how much sidewalk we've given you'

It's for surveyors.

May 30th, 2010, 05:39 PM
New thread on the topic:

Thread: NYC Property Line Demarcation - Revocable Right to Pass (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23745&)

May 31st, 2010, 03:40 PM
As if they haven't killed the block enough already with a huge lobby and their own bank branch, the one retail spot left on 42 St--which I was hoping to see something interesting go in there--is now going to be a Verizon phone store.


May 31st, 2010, 04:20 PM
The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. There's a shiny (if corpulent) new presence on this stretch of 42nd Street, and a glitzy haven for folks fascinated by cell phones.

The ramshackle collection of taxpayers that preceded this bright new world may have seemed slovenly, but it included destinations for more than telefonistas or bank-goers.

I particularly regret the passing of Tad's Steakhouse, home of the $1.79 steak that would keep you chewing till your jaw ached. It came with a baked potato filled with some soy-based sour cream substitute; a salad gritty with whatever the guys in the back room had neglected to wash off; and a pebbled plastic beaker of lemonade. To add a touch of class to the cafeteria line, the walls were papered in red flock --just like a New Orleans bordello.

The block also contained at least two porn shops, the usual collection of 5-foot wide convenience stores, and miscellaneous other mom-and-pops that doubtless had their clientele.

Where's MidtownGuy?

June 1st, 2010, 10:22 PM
http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/manhattan/midtown/boa/index.htm shows the block before Bank of America Tower.

June 1st, 2010, 11:07 PM
shows the block before Bank of America Tower.

Great Blog in general; in addition the BOA coverage.

June 7th, 2010, 11:40 AM
Love that first shot.

June 13th, 2010, 11:22 PM
Does this building have a quality angle? I am not so certain.

It appears best at a great distance, a distance which tricks the eye into believing it actually possesses a seductive shape.

Fancy lighting could never hide this truth.

June 14th, 2010, 05:22 PM
Well it does a good job of looking okay from all angles.

Emily / Bawdy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bawdy/4696727213/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

ertw-daves (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ertw-daves/4677011635/sizes/l/)

Mr.Enjoy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/91689543@N00/4673453928/)

AAA Studio (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69459689@N00/4642833668/)

June 14th, 2010, 07:59 PM
What's that grassy weeded lot at the bottom middle of the 3rd pic, from the Top of The Rock?

June 14th, 2010, 08:25 PM
That's a demo'd lot at 30 W 46th (http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&rls=en&q='50+WEST+46+STREET+new+york+NY%22&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=50+W+46th+St,+New+York,+NY+10036&gl=us&ei=98QWTKzKIoPGlQfb4oyFDA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBQQ8gEwAA), sort of across from the International Gem Tower (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8727&) site. SLCE filed for a New Building (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=16&passjobnumber=120088074&passdocnumber=01) in mid-2009 (175 Room, 24-story hotel), but so far the plan has been Disapproved.

The Owner shown on the NB application is David Rothstein (http://www.spoke.com/info/pEtArl6/DavidRothstein). He's Executive Vice President, Construction at Extell Development Corp

August 16th, 2010, 01:01 PM

sophe89 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sophe89/4785268490/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

If Manhattan fronted an ocean:

GaborCs (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabcs/4892503727/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

GaborCs (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabcs/4509691024/sizes/o/in/photostream/)



GaborCs (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabcs/4509692746/sizes/o/in/photostream/)

September 3rd, 2010, 10:27 PM
Large: http://www.flickr.com/photos/antongorbov/4953690603/sizes/o/in/photostream/

Large: http://www.flickr.com/photos/antongorbov/4953690571/sizes/o/in/photostream/


September 4th, 2010, 07:47 AM
Gorgeous. This is one of those real life shots that looks like a render.

September 4th, 2010, 08:39 AM
And look how cute the skinny + white Cassa NY looks, poking up to the NE.

September 4th, 2010, 10:14 AM
^ You got that right. Someone whose name I won't mention, had in another thread ridiculously compared the Cassa to a McSam.

No McSams would ever be considered cute.

September 4th, 2010, 10:53 PM

From Liberty state park.

September 5th, 2010, 10:20 AM
An indication of how that view will look once 15 Penn Plaza is built ...


September 6th, 2010, 08:58 AM
WOW that will look great the only thing this tower does to the skyline is add to it. Just what NYC needs cant wait!

September 6th, 2010, 09:51 AM
Looks kinda lonely to me.

September 6th, 2010, 11:22 AM
Love those night shots, especially the sunset ones!!

September 8th, 2010, 12:25 PM
Doesn't that put 15PP at the foot of 42nd street? unless there's a sever northward diagonal on that shot, this is the wrong perspective.

An indication of how that view will look once 15 Penn Plaza is built ...


September 8th, 2010, 01:11 PM
The perspective is playing a trick, because Manhattan cuts to the SE and this is looking somewhat from the SW. So Seventh in that photo runs downtown on the diagonal from left to right.

Just to the left of my very professional rendering :D is seen the striped block of 2 Penn Plaza (http://www.emporis.com/application/?nav=building&lng=3&id=2pennplaza-newyorkcity-ny-usa), just across Seventh from the Hotel Penn. And the art deco Nelson Tower (http://www.emporis.com/application/?nav=building&lng=3&id=113771) at 34th / Seventh is just beyond (seen to the left of 4 Times Square / Conde Nast).

September 8th, 2010, 01:34 PM
What tunnel does that ventilating tower belong too, Lincoln or Holland? If it's Lincoln, your location can't be right.

September 8th, 2010, 03:19 PM
Boy, you need a lot of convincing, dontcha :cool:

Shooter said he took the shot from Liberty State Park in Jersey. It's a telephoto lens, distortion reigns. (But logic rules)

That's the Holland Tunnel vent you're seeing. Pier 40 at the foot of Houston Street is the low blue + beige building extending out into the water just beyond. And you can see 1-1/2 of the Meier glass triplets in the West Village way off to the left.

The tower rising above the Holland Tunnel vent with the arced top is The Epic, on W 31st at midblock -- west of Sixth Avenue (same side as B of A, but even farther west -- yet in the photo it looks to be to the east :eek: ).

First impressions can be a bitch.

But 15 Penn is right on track for the photog's position (http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&q=1095+sixth+avenue+new+york+ny&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=1095+6th+Ave,+New+York,+10036&gl=us&ei=3N2HTL_7L8Sclgfv0YG-Dg&ved=0CBQQ8gEwAA&ll=40.734381,-74.008198&spn=0.092874,0.137157&t=h&z=13).


September 8th, 2010, 04:44 PM
Okay, if it's the Holland tunnel tower, I can buy it.

September 20th, 2010, 01:56 AM
highdynamic (http://www.flickr.com/photos/highdynamic/4972784570/sizes/l/in/photostream/)

September 20th, 2010, 02:00 AM
Could someone photoshop out the putrid yellowish brown of the Bryant Park hotel thing? It mars an otherwise great vista.

September 20th, 2010, 10:04 AM
Which building are you talking about?

September 20th, 2010, 10:10 AM
Lower left -- the Marriott Residence Inn (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=safari&ie=UTF8&q=1035+sixth+avenue+new+york+ny&fb=1&gl=us&hnear=&cid=0,0,18215764448868894263&ei=TGqXTN3aGcO78gbnnqmdDA&ved=0CBMQnwIwAA&hq=1035+sixth+avenue+new+york+ny&ll=40.752589,-73.985775&spn=0.01081,0.017424&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.75282,-73.98561&panoid=dLgtdZzrXepUrMpGxjESrA&cbp=12,301.6,,0,-38.44) at the SW corner of Sixth + West 39th (1033 Sixth Avenue).

September 20th, 2010, 04:41 PM
Could someone photoshop out the putrid yellowish brown of the Bryant Park hotel thing? It mars an otherwise great vista.
Photoshopped with facade textures taken from nearby buildings.... lol
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/5009678638_3b4813a2b0_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23392725@N08/5009678638/#/photos/23392725@N08/5009678638/lightbox/)

September 20th, 2010, 06:14 PM
Lower left -- the Marriott Residence Inn (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=safari&ie=UTF8&q=1035+sixth+avenue+new+york+ny&fb=1&gl=us&hnear=&cid=0,0,18215764448868894263&ei=TGqXTN3aGcO78gbnnqmdDA&ved=0CBMQnwIwAA&hq=1035+sixth+avenue+new+york+ny&ll=40.752589,-73.985775&spn=0.01081,0.017424&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.75282,-73.98561&panoid=dLgtdZzrXepUrMpGxjESrA&cbp=12,301.6,,0,-38.44) at the SW corner of Sixth + West 39th (1033 Sixth Avenue).

OK, I heard brown, yellow, and Bryant Park and immediately thought of the American Radiator Building. Almost started crying.

September 20th, 2010, 08:30 PM
And its one of the first damn buildings you see in the picture.

September 20th, 2010, 09:15 PM
Photoshopped with facade textures taken from nearby buildings.... lol

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/5009678638_3b4813a2b0_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23392725@N08/5009678638/#/photos/23392725@N08/5009678638/lightbox/)

Brilliant! Zit-away!! :cool:

Feel free to do the same with any photos showing 425 Fifth (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=%22425+fifth+avenue%22&sll=40.750968,-73.982734&sspn=0.011281,0.017424&gl=us&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=425+5th+Ave,+New+York,+10016&ll=40.750817,-73.982148&spn=0.011216,0.017424&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.750768,-73.982877&panoid=_HRKviJEhmvcRPtryZ0urA&cbp=12,75.66,,0,-36.23)

September 20th, 2010, 09:17 PM
OK, I heard brown, yellow, and Bryant Park and immediately thought of the American Radiator Building. Almost started crying.

I may be foolish at times but I'm not stupid ;)

September 20th, 2010, 09:17 PM
UhUh I like 425 5th, i think they had good intentions :D

September 20th, 2010, 09:30 PM
The color of the brick there is just so wrong. Same flat yellowish tone. Hate it -- Sorry.

September 29th, 2010, 11:56 PM
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October 1st, 2010, 01:17 AM
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October 1st, 2010, 02:29 AM
Every time I see this (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2771/4266397657_6cbb2745b7_b.jpg) image I say "God this building sucks."
Then I see this (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/4999147660_feeab61687_b.jpg) one and I think "Damn this is a cool building."

Common Sense
October 2nd, 2010, 06:22 PM
That first pic is awesome.... I like this building, but feel let down by it. I wish it stood out more or something, but that view of the building is dramatic and unique. I then see the second picture and its back to bland and awkward.

October 2nd, 2010, 07:07 PM
The direct opposite of Gerhy's tower DT....good, interesting form....awful skin.

November 11th, 2010, 09:48 PM

November 18th, 2010, 01:17 AM

December 9th, 2010, 10:23 PM
wild crazy LED lighting effects on the spire tonight

December 9th, 2010, 11:37 PM
I saw that from way down in Union Square. Looks great. Both BofA and ESB are lit up blue tonight (for chanukah).

December 10th, 2010, 07:39 PM
BofA changes colors?!

December 10th, 2010, 09:30 PM
Last night was a sort of a vibrating blue, running up and down the antenna, and the red lights on the antenna seemed more prominent.

December 10th, 2010, 09:34 PM
Aha ... Youtube to the rescue!

This vid from ESBisMyMuse (http://www.youtube.com/user/ESBisMyMuse) says it was taken on 11.22.2010 ...


This one is from 11.18 ...


December 11th, 2010, 01:32 AM
Cool, thought it was on the triangle though

December 12th, 2010, 08:59 AM
Thanks for posting my videos :)

Here are some more recent ones, one of which also show the Empire State Building in its Chanukah colors; They're from December 3. It's not only the B of A Tower spire that's lighting up, but the Conde Nast building spire as well. The light shows seem coordinated.


The light shows have been kind of random and until recently very short. They'd start around 6 pm or so and last for maybe an hour or an hour and a half. I first noticed them on 11/22/10 when i took the videos posted above by lofter1. There were maybe one or two more before I took the 12/3 videos, all on weekdays. I'm guessing they were testing them. Now they're more regular and longer and are now also happening on the weekend when the B of A Tower has usually been dark. There was one yesterday that started as the sun was setting around 4:45 pm and lasted til midnight (videos of the light show at dusk will be uploaded soon :) )

December 15th, 2010, 01:42 PM
Anyone know if the recent lighting of the BOA Building spire is permanent? I like it. I always wondered if the original WTC's planned "light sculpture" would have been similar.

December 15th, 2010, 02:32 PM
CitiBank definitely isn't. *CitiBank is just one corporation in Citicorp, which as an umbrella organization has more assets than any other bank in the world.

Its called Citigroup Center. (http://tinyurl.com/36mugyd)

And One Bryant Park is nice but did you see the light shows? Who/why organizes this because I want to see the next one.

December 15th, 2010, 03:03 PM
Conde' Nast's also has its spire illuminated with the cool effects too.
Seems like what I reported a few months ago was just a test run. I hope it's permanent or at least returns every year/holidays.

Here’s a pic showing both.

Happy to see the top of 745 Seventh lit too.

December 15th, 2010, 04:45 PM
Yes but why the display?

December 15th, 2010, 06:29 PM
Durst Org. most likely for the holiday season.

Durst is one of our few commercial developers that seem genuinely aware of the importance of design/sustainability in their skyscrapers.

December 16th, 2010, 08:15 AM
I'd like to see it on the BofA crown/triangle over 6th. Slow transitions.

December 16th, 2010, 10:53 AM
Both BoA and Conde Nast's spires were showing off their colorful displays last night.

December 16th, 2010, 10:55 AM
Looks cool! While I don't want Hong Kong levels of bling in NYC, a little bit of color to jazz up the skyline never hurts. I hope the WTC has something similar, if not more elaborate. I'd love to see red, white, and blue like the ESB does.

Since we are kind of talking about lighting schemes - anyone know what the deal is with Goldman Sachs? We saw the lighting on there once or twice last year, but I haven't heard much since. Is that strip of LED lights on every night now? And how about the bulbs at the WFC? Last time I was there it looked like they could use some replacing.

Brookfield Properties, if you're reading this, I need a job. :p

James Kovata
December 17th, 2010, 02:34 AM
Looks cool! While I don't want Hong Kong levels of bling in NYC, a little bit of color to jazz up the skyline never hurts. I hope the WTC has something similar, if not more elaborate. I'd love to see red, white, and blue like the ESB does.

Since we are kind of talking about lighting schemes - anyone know what the deal is with Goldman Sachs? We saw the lighting on there once or twice last year, but I haven't heard much since. Is that strip of LED lights on every night now? And how about the bulbs at the WFC? Last time I was there it looked like they could use some replacing.

Brookfield Properties, if you're reading this, I need a job. :p

OK, sorry for continuing the lighting questions, but what happened to the re-do of the lighting system at the ESB? I thought the building's lighting scheme was supposed to change to LED and become very high-tech. With an LED system, the ESB could fade to different colors, have various effects, such as strobing, etc.

December 17th, 2010, 11:41 AM
Not sure if they are using LED's, but the lighting is different from years past.

Since we are kind of talking about lighting schemes - anyone know what the deal is with Goldman Sachs? We saw the lighting on there once or twice last year, but I haven't heard much since. Is that strip of LED lights on every night now? And how about the bulbs at the WFC? Last time I was there it looked like they could use some replacing.

They turn on that underwhelming strip sporadically. It was on one day last week for instance. It'd be nice if they turn on the lights on their JC building as well.
GS sure aren't the festive type. No holiday decorations inside their lobby.

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They finally started turning on the lights at the top of AmEx too (Not on in the pic, guess too early).
Still a few bulbs missing in the WFC's crowns, but not as bad as it use to be.

December 19th, 2010, 11:15 PM
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December 19th, 2010, 11:38 PM
I saw it tonight from the Pulaski Skyway driving towards JC. The blue looked really nice in the skyline.