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Deimos
May 22nd, 2007, 01:10 AM
Interesting to note that the glass on the angled "shard" part (visible in NYGuy's last pic) is similar to that used on the bottom 10 floors, in that it has much thinner spandrels. Hopefully this will be more noticeable and dramatic once it's all done.

Good catch there... It'll definitely change the look of this building for the better!

ramvid01
May 22nd, 2007, 01:17 AM
Interesting to note that the glass on the angled "shard" part (visible in NYGuy's last pic) is similar to that used on the bottom 10 floors, in that it has much thinner spandrels. Hopefully this will be more noticeable and dramatic once it's all done.

I was about to point that out myself. I hope that this change of glass will help this building sparkle. It seems that right now the atrium that was supposed to be there won't happen, and hopefully this will make up for that loss.

Ninjahedge
May 22nd, 2007, 09:39 AM
It may depend on the spanning perimeter beams. Right now the beams are rather small (small span), but as the angled portion gets longer/wider, they may need to use W16's or W18's (I believe they would probably be using W12 or W14 right now...)

This might not change the spandrel panels that much, or at all, it all depends on how much of the structure/slab/mechanical they want to show through the window......

ZippyTheChimp
May 22nd, 2007, 10:45 AM
^ :confused:

The load bearing elements are complete almost to the roof. From the photos, the distance between the columns appears to be the same at the top, and the beam dimensions look the same to me.

Ninjahedge
May 22nd, 2007, 11:03 AM
^ :confused:

The load bearing elements are complete almost to the roof. From the photos, the distance between the columns appears to be the same at the top, and the beam dimensions look the same to me.

On the slats, the distance between the two corners increases as the "triangle" gets bigger.

It starts off with a little stub, then gets bigger and bigger (longer at least) beams on that one face.

It looks like they have some sort of spandrel girder that is connected to the two gravity columns at the corner (vertical) and then they cantilever out some beams to carry the perimeter.

Looks like the perimeter beams are the ones that are cantelevered out (according to the pic I just grabbed on my next post) and teh facade beam spans between them. Then you have the smaller deck support beams going between them, and a diagonal girder spanning between the gravity columns......

Are there any pics that show that one corner a bit clearer?

Ninjahedge
May 22nd, 2007, 11:06 AM
http://www.ardiem.org/images/17165.JPG
Close up of glass going up from 4/27.

See how the connecting spandrel beam is going from the two outstretched cantilever beams here? Also notice that the parts that have the thicker bands on the facade glass are the sides where those deeper cantilevers are, but the thinner is that small set of spandrels doing up the facet face.

They get longer as the facet becomes wider. If they need to carry more weight, they will get deeper....

ZippyTheChimp
May 22nd, 2007, 11:15 AM
Just a few pages back.

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/4640/boa16cnp2.th.jpg (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa16cnp2.jpg) http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/3681/boa17cft4.th.jpg (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa17cft4.jpg)

Alonzo-ny
May 23rd, 2007, 05:02 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/200/511290140_864b227fd9_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/511290126_2b5c3a669a_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/511290124_5004b5bbef_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/511290112_3439e18d61_b.jpg

6th ave looking super dense and NYTimes looking nice and white.

macreator
May 23rd, 2007, 06:18 PM
...NYTimes looking nice and white.

Yea, wow. I've never seen the Times building look so...not grey. I like it a lot better.

lesterp4
May 23rd, 2007, 06:27 PM
does anyone know what floor they are up to?

ablarc
May 23rd, 2007, 06:37 PM
Yea, wow. I've never seen the Times building look so...not grey. I like it a lot better.
Pic from high vantage point. Rods reflecting light from sky?

Alonzo-ny
May 23rd, 2007, 07:06 PM
This building really fluctuates depending on the light, sometimes grey, sometimes white. The crown as well looks beautifully shimmering or completely transparent leaving it look unfinished.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/511411012_5585005428_b.jpg

lesterp4
May 23rd, 2007, 07:18 PM
Isn't this the thread for Bank of America?

kz1000ps
May 23rd, 2007, 11:18 PM
^ Maybe.

Incredible how the high-constrasting white sections of the NYT make it look so much more palatable.. the icing on the cake that tower sorely needs.

Too bad the BOA grows more ho-hum with each new floor of cladding.

lofter1
May 24th, 2007, 01:37 AM
I noticed today that you can see the western side of B of A Tower when looking down Broadway from in front of the Trump International (just north of Columbus Circle). Especially now -- with the orange construction screens on the upper floors of the new tower -- the slope of the facade is very visible from that vantage point.

B of A disappears as you move south -- and is barely visible from the eastern side of the new CC pedestrian circle just one block south.

ZippyTheChimp
May 24th, 2007, 05:11 AM
To me, it's again starting to look like my first impression from the Bryant Park rendering - chunky.

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/01/greenskyscrapers/image/1_dods.jpg

The animation on the Durst website changed my opinion for awhile. It may change again as the cladding continues, but so far, although I always liked the NY Times building, I now think it is the superior of the two.

stache
May 24th, 2007, 06:54 AM
To me it's looking shoehorned into its site. I'm thinking part of this problem might be the dark netting currently on the Verizon bldg.

ablarc
May 24th, 2007, 07:30 AM
Especially now -- with the orange construction screens on the upper floors of the new tower -- the slope of the facade is very visible from that vantage point.
And to what avail?

Is this building a dog?

Alonzo-ny
May 24th, 2007, 08:09 AM
the problem i think is the building looks best on its slim side which isnt the most visible. I also like the glass but im gonna wait for it to at least top out before i pass judgement.

Ninjahedge
May 24th, 2007, 09:02 AM
Just a few pages back.

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/4640/boa16cnp2.th.jpg (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa16cnp2.jpg) http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/3681/boa17cft4.th.jpg (http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa17cft4.jpg)

K...

Looks like they are cantelevering out from the gravity columns. If you look towards the top you can see the top of one column with something that may be a W18 or W21 with a W12 stub attached. You can almost see the connection plates for teh flanges on the stub.

So the perimeter beam is not a main supporting beam, but a small span beam....

K, thanks for the search zip!

krulltime
May 24th, 2007, 11:51 AM
Those are some awesome shots from up there alonzo-ny! What a nice day to take shots!

Alonzo-ny
May 24th, 2007, 12:45 PM
Hey wish i was there to take them! Ill have to wait until july for that priveledge, those pics were swiped from SSC.

macreator
May 24th, 2007, 06:36 PM
I'm really liking the slight "cut out" or "slice" that is forming on the southeast side of the building. Hopefully with a little more height this building won't look as bulky overall as it does now.

Scraperfannyc
May 24th, 2007, 11:50 PM
This is cutting edge building in midtown Manhattan that dares to peep its rooftop slightly above its neighbors. I like it, but I would like its roof to be alot higher too.

yanni111
May 26th, 2007, 02:34 AM
looks like 5 or 6 more floors to go to the roof, then comes the slanted structure

lofter1
May 27th, 2007, 09:04 PM
If they maintain the open quality of the lobby then this could become a terrific public space (viewed from W 43rd towards the corner of Sixth / 42nd) ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_17f.jpg

The new stairways down to the subway are getting close to completion ...

At mid-block along Sixth (looking south):

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_17g.jpg

At Sixth & 42nd (looking NW into the BA building):

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_17h.jpg

The tower rising at the corner of Sixth & 42nd:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_17e.jpg

And rising along W 43rd:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_17d.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_17a.jpg

NYatKNIGHT
May 29th, 2007, 01:30 PM
Interesting to note that the glass on the angled "shard" part (visible in NYGuy's last pic) is similar to that used on the bottom 10 floors, in that it has much thinner spandrels.It is interesting and I'm glad they're doing it. However, when I was checking out the building a few days ago I looked for this and noticed that it's true for all but the bottom four floors of this triangular facade - where it comes to a point.

Notice in this photo by NYguy:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/79139804/original.jpg

stache
May 29th, 2007, 01:54 PM
Expensive, non-vavy glass!

avm10
May 31st, 2007, 07:54 AM
Those narrower spandrel panels will offer a point of visual interest, but they are also functional. That room is not a typical occupied space, its essentially a "light" closet at the corner of the building. This room will not have a need for wide spandrels as they are not hiding any ceiling assembly and HVAC duct work. Its all part of that double wall system that becomes more pronounced at the top of building.

The spandrel at the lowest part of the "shard" as its been referred to, is office floor with the typical interstital ceiling space.

NYatKNIGHT
May 31st, 2007, 09:44 AM
^Thanks. Makes sense. I bet they thought nobody would notice.

lofter1
June 1st, 2007, 09:57 PM
They've started to install the facade at street level along W 42nd Street -- big panels of nice clear glass ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_19a_42nd.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_19b_42nd.jpg

avm10
June 1st, 2007, 10:03 PM
Oh excellent! Man, this site is great, I can keep track of the building I worked on for 3 years. I hope it gets done on time. I love these progress pictures.

pianoman11686
June 5th, 2007, 09:42 PM
I've had the opportunity to view this tower from several different angles now, and I think it makes its strongest impression when viewed from the north. Walking down 6th Avenue, the monotony of flat, concrete slabs is suddenly broken up by this tower as its east-facing facade steps back at irregular angles.

This is from about 10 blocks up:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/pianoman11686/SA700858.jpg

From this perspective it almost looks like it twists towards the top.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/pianoman11686/SA700859.jpg

It's sort of an optical illusion, because the southern half of that part of the building rises more vertically after the facade splits.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/pianoman11686/SA700863.jpg

The result is a bit chaotic and disjointed, but 6th Avenue could use some of that.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/pianoman11686/SA700864.jpg

It's also got an "all business" side.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/pianoman11686/SA700865.jpg

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/pianoman11686/SA700866.jpg

Looking forward to that new public space...

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/pianoman11686/SA700867.jpg

I think the facade looks its best in indirect light - early morning and late afternoon. The color's a little deeper, and the translucent fritting seems to have a more natural effect.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/pianoman11686/SA700868.jpg

There's a lot going on with the facade at these lower levels, but you wouldn't know it with just an offhand glance.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/pianoman11686/SA700869.jpg

The angled shard/"light closet":

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/pianoman11686/SA700870.jpg

lofter1
June 5th, 2007, 09:49 PM
Terrific Pics -- what camera do you use?

pianoman11686
June 5th, 2007, 09:57 PM
Thanks. It's actually a Samsung, with good resolution (7.2M pixels) but few of the thrills of similar cameras that cost twice as much. I got it for a steal at J&R about a year ago, no problems to report yet.

antinimby
June 6th, 2007, 12:51 AM
Mine is only 5.0 megapixels... :(

...but it was a gift and was free so I don't care. :)

Anyway, I counted 48 floors, meaning there should be at least 6 more floors to go.

I said at least because we're not sure if there's 54 floors or 55 or 56.

sfenn1117
June 6th, 2007, 01:25 AM
In the nighttime rendering I only count 49 total floors. If that's the case, they are working on the last 2 floors right now. 54 has been the most widely used number, but I've seen anywhere from 50-56 used.

Well, with the Times Tower, there was an announcement when it was topped out (before the screens). We'll see if there is one for this too.

Scraperfannyc
June 6th, 2007, 02:01 AM
Nice addition to this area, but the skin is very ordinary looking on this one.
Can't believe it is almost topped out to the roof. Looks like it can grow alot more.

TREPYE
June 6th, 2007, 10:13 AM
Nice addition to this area, but the skin is very ordinary looking on this one.
Can't believe it is almost topped out to the roof. Looks like it can grow alot more.

Was there a zonning restriction??:confused:

kliq6
June 6th, 2007, 10:26 AM
its a 1,200 foot tower, what would you guys want?

pianoman11686
June 6th, 2007, 10:27 AM
Was there a zonning restriction??:confused:

Of course there was.

econ_tim
June 6th, 2007, 01:15 PM
its a 1,200 foot tower, what would you guys want?

a 1,200 foot tower without a spire, of course ;)

Adyton
June 6th, 2007, 01:23 PM
a 1,200 foot tower without a spire, of course ;)

Ditto... another wasted oppty. :mad: With the demand for office space plus this location it should be 1200' plus spire/antenna!

kliq6
June 6th, 2007, 02:06 PM
Okay i see point, but overall there are 8 office towers under construction in Manhattan right now and about 6 that can/will get started by end of year. Only problem is besides this building and 510 madison, nothing will be ready till 2011

londonlawyer
June 6th, 2007, 02:09 PM
Okay i see point, but overall there are 8 office towers under construction in Manhattan right now and about 6 that can/will get started by end of year. Only problem is besides this building and 510 madison, nothing will be ready till 2011

Hi, Kliq.

What are the 6? Are they:

1. BP 55th and 8th;
2. BP 45th and 8th;
3. Port Authority;
4. Disney;
5. Macklowe's disaster at the Drake site; and
6. ?

ramvid01
June 6th, 2007, 02:26 PM
Hi, Kliq.

What are the 6? Are they:

1. BP 55th and 8th;
2. BP 45th and 8th;
3. Port Authority;
4. Disney;
5. Macklowe's disaster at the Drake site; and
6. ?

1 WTC :confused:

kliq6
June 6th, 2007, 02:43 PM
Hotel Penn

londonlawyer
June 6th, 2007, 02:44 PM
Hotel Penn

Were the other five the same ones that you had in mind?

kliq6
June 6th, 2007, 02:47 PM
yes

londonlawyer
June 6th, 2007, 02:53 PM
yes

Thanks

lofter1
June 6th, 2007, 11:41 PM
B of A is starting to look great as you walk up Sxith Avenue from the Village -- it looms large in the distance and overshadows everything on Sixth below it (and even makes the horrid towers above 23rd Street look less ridiculous).

lesterp4
June 7th, 2007, 03:43 PM
I was walking by the site and I asked one of the foremen how many floors were left to go and he said 6 or 7.

Derek2k3
June 10th, 2007, 11:19 PM
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/4313/dscn17570129pg2.jpg
elsonic (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=131927)
This building just makes me feel small.

BrooklynRider
June 10th, 2007, 11:31 PM
The glass is being applied on all the angular faces at this point. It looks very nice. It does break up the bulk.

Derek2k3
June 11th, 2007, 02:11 AM
If anyone is still awake, check out the Discovery Channel. Some renderings and animations of BOA Tower I've never seen before.

Building the Future
21st Century Shelter

It's on again Jun 24, 10:00 am.

avm10
June 14th, 2007, 08:13 AM
...great updated pics.

A few posts back the discussion was number of floors?

Level 51 is the last occupied office floor
Levels 52, 52M, 53, 54, 54M, 55 and 56 are the top enclosed mechanical floors. I remember our arch. floor plan drawings stopped at sheet A2-58 which was the overall roof plan of the tower and podium. So if they are at 49, then 2 occupied floors to go.

I cant wait til the curtain wall is up near the top of the building, it gets pretty neat up there

lofter1
June 14th, 2007, 10:52 AM
Great to see B of A overshadowing the black slab of 1 Penn Plaza when viewed from the Top of the Rock :cool:

macreator
June 14th, 2007, 01:55 PM
...the black slab of 1 Penn Plaza...

What a despicable building. While that massing can't be changed, although perhaps it'll be mitigated by a tall residential tower on the lowrise section of the site per some of the proposed Penn Station redevelopment, I wish Vornado would put up a new facade on the building.

I hope the Penn Station/MSG redevelopment might convince them to reclad 1 Penn and 2 Penn.

lofter1
June 15th, 2007, 09:10 PM
I just love the way the B of A Tower meets the sky ... the sloping sides send it right off towards infinity ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_21h.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_21b.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_21c.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_21e.jpg

lofter1
June 15th, 2007, 09:30 PM
I happened to be passing by the B of A Tower just before 12:30 today ...

The site was pretty quiet since the crew was on lunch break ...

Parked on West 42nd was a big flatbed loaded with some huge steel beams ...

I took a picture of the new glass going in at street level ...

The end of one of the beams can be seen at the right ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_Steel_01a.jpg

Just then the crew came back to work and started swarming over the flatbed,
trussing up the pile of steel with a couple of hefty cables ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_Steel_01c.jpg

The crane operator started lowering the crane cable down towards the truck ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_Steel_01b.jpg

While the ironworkers secured the tons of steel, readying it for its trip skyward ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_Steel_01e.jpg

Amazingly, within 10 minutes of the end of lunch the entire truckload -- tons of steel -- were rising above 42nd Street ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_Steel_01d.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_Steel_01f.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_Steel_01g.jpg

And before you knew it the steel disappeared over the top of the tower ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_Steel_01h.jpg

Then the crane came back around to pick up another load -- all within 20 minutes!

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_Steel_01i.jpg

These guys really earn their wages ...

Another reason I love this City :cool:

wilson04
June 15th, 2007, 10:12 PM
great pictures, thanks.

do you know if the bottom six floors are the actual trading floors?

BrooklynRider
June 15th, 2007, 11:50 PM
Its wow factor on the skyline is still questionable, but this building is beautiful if you look up at it from street level. The angles look great.

Derek2k3
June 16th, 2007, 04:31 AM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/555844755_5a8a79564e_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1191/555844737_5bedac8d8f_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1011/555844739_f9eedab52d_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1095/555844729_0bfffd95cf_o.jpg

Derek2k3
June 16th, 2007, 04:36 AM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1296/555842929_2581bef375_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1009/555842975_86330c4ae5_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1193/555414492_b3b0e9e105_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1048/555844711_198278e9ab_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1356/555414448_08dbdb986d_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1305/555842969_6e2ac3322a_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1061/555842893_7d412bbf2b_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1097/555843005_bb8118ad7e_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1139/555842989_8e9c3adc2f_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1234/555844699_de436415b1_o.jpg

rmannion
June 16th, 2007, 04:41 AM
Is that a strip of the new facade visible on the Verizon building now?

Derek2k3
June 16th, 2007, 04:43 AM
Is that a strip of the new facade visible on the Verizon building now?

Yup. What you think of it?
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8212&page=11

ZippyTheChimp
June 16th, 2007, 06:56 AM
Verticality is gone.

pianoman11686
June 16th, 2007, 01:19 PM
I think someone asked this question before: who made the stylistic decision to go with this new facade? Could it have really come down to bean-counting? Are vertically-stripped windows more expensive?

In any case, this tower will look positively grounded in comparison to B of A, which seems to soar more by the day. I think I'm starting to appreciate some of the cuts/chamfers that the architects decided to use on it. It's truly a massive building, and would look ridiculous as a box. This way, it'll have some grace.

kz1000ps
June 17th, 2007, 12:26 PM
Yesterday. First time seeing it in person since November, and all I can say is that it looks much better in person than in photos. And I'm finally starting to warm up to that glass

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4265/img4874yn5.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6496/img4885ab2.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5308/img4886sq1.jpg

shine baby, shine!

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6877/img4889hn3.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7148/img4891co9.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8831/img4901na2.jpg

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/7138/img4906ya5.jpg

NYguy
June 18th, 2007, 10:09 AM
More pics...

JUNE 17, 2007

Getting closer to the spire...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80742179/medium.jpg

1.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80742162/large.jpg

2.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80742167/large.jpg

3.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80742179/large.jpg

4.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80742239/large.jpg

5.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80742282/large.jpg

6.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80742355/large.jpg

7.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80742419/large.jpg

8.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80742457/large.jpg

kliq6
June 18th, 2007, 10:22 AM
great pictures, thanks.

do you know if the bottom six floors are the actual trading floors?

YES

RandySavage
June 18th, 2007, 10:24 AM
Thanks for the pics. It looks to me like they are putting up the last floors, then will begin the 10-story hollow crown and then the spire. I may be wrong, but I think this baby still has a nice bit of growing to do.

ZippyTheChimp
June 22nd, 2007, 07:57 AM
I think it looks best from here.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/553/boa18cjq4.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa18cjq4.jpg)

Ninjahedge
June 22nd, 2007, 09:43 AM
I think it looks best from here.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/553/boa18cjq4.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa18cjq4.jpg)

If, by "here" you mean sitting at your desk looking at the pictures snapped by enthusiasts... I would have to agree there Zip! ;)

avm10
June 22nd, 2007, 10:30 AM
The 42nd street side of the curtain wall is really showing the Bob Fox "pinstriping" effect that he was goin for.

Steel should top out by mid July it seems?

DarrylStrawberry
June 24th, 2007, 01:02 PM
Are they disassembling one of the cranes?

ablarc
June 24th, 2007, 01:29 PM
I think it looks best from here.
From where it's least dominated by its capricious shape?

ZippyTheChimp
June 24th, 2007, 01:39 PM
Well, yes.

BrooklynRider
June 24th, 2007, 05:15 PM
I was driving through the Rockaways on Saturday. This building is visible on the skyline.

lofter1
June 24th, 2007, 08:46 PM
Are they disassembling one of the cranes?
I got the sense when I walked by on Friday that they were getting ready to take down the crane on Sixth Avenue (the one that is sitting on the huge temporary support attached to the side of the building).

NYguy
June 25th, 2007, 09:18 AM
JUNE 24, 2007

Regardless of angle, this tower has presence...

1.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130209/large.jpg

2.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130220/large.jpg

3.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130233/large.jpg

4.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130242/large.jpg

5.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130248/large.jpg

6.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130251/large.jpg

7.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130280/large.jpg

8.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130295/large.jpg

NYguy
June 25th, 2007, 09:19 AM
9.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130301/large.jpg

10.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130310/large.jpg

11.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130319/large.jpg

12.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130322/large.jpg

13.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130325/large.jpg

14.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/81130329/large.jpg

stache
June 25th, 2007, 09:44 AM
Great shots, NYguy!

Jeffreyny
June 25th, 2007, 10:50 PM
I was driving through the Rockaways on Saturday. This building is visible on the skyline.

Barely....it really only pokes it's head out of the midtown plateu.
Couldn't they have added another 300ft.?

I don't need an arrogant tower but something prominent to compete with the ESB would be nice after all these years!

kliq6
June 26th, 2007, 09:37 AM
Freedom Tower will do that

RandySavage
June 26th, 2007, 10:02 AM
Barely....it really only pokes it's head out of the midtown plateu.
Couldn't they have added another 300ft.?

I don't need an arrogant tower but something prominent to compete with the ESB would be nice after all these years!

The crown and spire (which haven't even started construction yet) will make this tower as tall as Citigroup or Chrysler on the skyline. It should break the midtown plateau.

kliq6
June 26th, 2007, 10:53 AM
The crown and spire (which haven't even started construction yet) will make this tower as tall as Citigroup or Chrysler on the skyline. It should break the midtown plateau.

It will be the second tallest in NY when completed

kliq6
June 26th, 2007, 03:58 PM
Tower had its topping out today

BrooklynRider
June 26th, 2007, 06:07 PM
Shutterbugs, can we have a photo please?

RandySavage
June 26th, 2007, 06:18 PM
Tower had its topping out today

Maybe its "official" topping out, but would you consider Citigroup Center topped out before they even started its wedged crown? The best part of this building (the part that earns it a place on the skyline) will continue for the next several weeks, and the true topping out will take place in July.

cysthead30
June 26th, 2007, 09:23 PM
Maybe its "official" topping out, but would you consider Citigroup Center topped out before they even started its wedged crown? The best part of this building (the part that earns it a place on the skyline) will continue for the next several weeks, and the true topping out will take place in July.

That's true....if you look at ssp diagrams....you'll see that the wedged crown is actually a little taller that Citicorp center and then with the spire...it'll look quite massive.

Jeffreyny
June 26th, 2007, 10:31 PM
Freedom Tower will do that

We had the WTC which were built in the 70's. In my mind the Freedom Tower is only to replace what we lost meaning that no supertall is being or will be built in and of itself if not solely to replace what was lost.

Jeffreyny
June 26th, 2007, 10:37 PM
It will be the second tallest in NY when completed

yes but only because of the spire. I want a real building reaching 1200 ft.
Don't mean to sound pessemistic but I just want to see some new supertalls competing for the skyline. We all know New York, for reasons stated in countless other posts is in a "height recession" but I'm just venting my disappointment. What better place to do it than on Wired New York??
Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy the BOA is going up and the design will be an attribute to this city.

RandySavage
June 26th, 2007, 10:53 PM
We all know New York, for reasons stated in countless other posts is in a "height recession" but I'm just venting my disappointment.

I disagree. Even following your logic that WTC 1 and WTC 2 don't count due their replacing destroyed supertalls. That still leaves us with WTC 3 (a supertall by any measure) and WTC 4 in site prep, BofA (Citigroup equivalent) almost topped out, and proposed supertalls for the MSG/Moynihan zone. It's a pretty good time for skyscrapers in NYC.

Jeffreyny
June 26th, 2007, 11:03 PM
I disagree. Even following your logic that WTC 1 and WTC 2 don't count due their replacing destroyed supertalls. That still leaves us with WTC 3 (a supertall by any measure) and WTC 4 in site prep, BofA (Citigroup equivalent) almost topped out, and proposed supertalls for the MSG/Moynihan zone. It's a pretty good time for skyscrapers in NYC.

There's plenty being built and some of them very tall but the majority will really not do much for the midtown skyline other than add to the "plateu".
Also let's just say for arguement sake that WTC 1 and 2 will replace the original WTCs. WTC 3 is tall and will be a nice addition but is of a modest height compared to what is being built in other cities like Chicago and many Asian capitals. While a city is not rated on what it's next supertall will be it is discouraging that NIMBY's always go after developers that truly want to soar!

ramvid01
June 26th, 2007, 11:57 PM
There's plenty being built and some of them very tall but the majority will really not do much for the midtown skyline other than add to the "plateu".
Also let's just say for arguement sake that WTC 1 and 2 will replace the original WTCs. WTC 3 is tall and will be a nice addition but is of a modest height compared to what is being built in other cities like Chicago and many Asian capitals. While a city is not rated on what it's next supertall will be it is discouraging that NIMBY's always go after developers that truly want to soar!

Just because you build really really tall doesn't mean its a great city.

sfenn1117
June 27th, 2007, 12:18 AM
That is true in some cases (various Asian cities), but most would agree Chicago is a beautiful city. Nowhere's near the history and prominence of NYC, but awesome nonetheless. I can admit I'm thoroughly jealous of the Chicago Spire, but it's not going to make me move there just because of that.

ramvid01
June 27th, 2007, 01:22 AM
That is true in some cases (various Asian cities), but most would agree Chicago is a beautiful city. Nowhere's near the history and prominence of NYC, but awesome nonetheless. I can admit I'm thoroughly jealous of the Chicago Spire, but it's not going to make me move there just because of that.

My comment was aimed more at some asian cities that build really tall and aren't very beautiful but I do agree that Chicago is very beautiful.

NYguy
June 27th, 2007, 08:59 AM
That is true in some cases (various Asian cities), but most would agree Chicago is a beautiful city. Nowhere's near the history and prominence of NYC, but awesome nonetheless. I can admit I'm thoroughly jealous of the Chicago Spire, but it's not going to make me move there just because of that.

Chicago has its good points. But its no New York. The Big Apple hasn't had the world's (or even the country's) tallest building for decades. Yet it has always been the star, and will ever remain so. I don't mean this in a negative way, but Chicago is more of the "poor man's" New York. That being said, the Chicago Spire would be a great addition to that skyline. I'm still not convinced it will be built, but it would be nice.

NYguy
June 27th, 2007, 09:00 AM
http://www.observer.com/2007/oh-be-douglas-durst-now-summer-s-here

Oh, to Be Douglas Durst Now That Summer’s Here
His share of new One Bryant Park now goes for some of the highest office rents in U.S. history—and only two floors left!

http://www.observer.com/files/imagecache/article/files/Breaks-DouglasDurst2H.jpg

Douglas Durst had the good luck to build a fresh skyscraper amid one of Manhattan’s healthiest commercial markets ever.


by John Koblin
June 26, 2007

The Bank of America Tower is mushrooming from the ground on Sixth Avenue and is nearly complete, just 11 months from opening.

So how will the developer Douglas Durst spend the final few months before it’s finished? He’ll be busy asking for some of the highest rents in Manhattan commercial history for the tower’s remaining two floors.

His request comes on the heels of another successful lease, this time with the hedge fund HBK Investments agreeing to a 10-year-deal for 36,252 square feet on the 40th floor, said a source familiar with the deal. The lease is the fourth one signed this year at One Bryant Park.

With that floor out of the way, the 54-story, 2.1 million–square-foot skyscraper has two spaces available for rent before it’s fully occupied—floors 37 and 47 (for those scoring at home, Bank of America originally controlled the 37th floor but recently gave it back to Mr. Durst).

Asking rents for each floor will start at $185 per square foot annually, a source said, which are among the highest asking rents in any American office building ever. Average asking rent in Class A office space in midtown is $70 per square foot, according to the brokerage Cushman & Wakefield.

In this market flooded with money, no building has been able to exploit it better than One Bryant. Although trophies like the GM Building at 767 Fifth Avenue or the Seagram Building on Park Avenue charge comparably astronomical rents for available spaces, it’ll take years before all the leases in both towers are able to turn over.

The Bank of America Tower, on the other hand, was born straight into this plush era and has charged triple-digit rents from the get-go. Bank of America took 1.6 million square feet, leaving more than 500,000 square feet for rent.

This year, more than 100,000 square feet of leases were signed to the hedge fund Marathon Asset Management and the fashion designer Elie Tahari. Taking rents are all more than $115 per foot.

A spokesman for the Durst Organization declined comment.

BrooklynRider
June 27th, 2007, 04:34 PM
Tower had its topping out today

I'm looking out my window here at work and the building is not topped out yet.

kliq6
June 27th, 2007, 04:40 PM
I can assure you it was, it was a non-media event with Durst Employees ( im a former one) and others involved in construction ( They lifted a beam up which was the symbolic last one) Its not done as the spire has to be built but its reached its office space topping out

lofter1
June 27th, 2007, 05:23 PM
"Topping Out" is a specific moment in construction --

Often when the first of the upper-most beams of the occupied portion of the structure is put into place ...

Here's some info from Curbed from when 1 YORK topped out (http://www.curbed.com/archives/2007/06/07/the_king_of_the_forest_parties_it_up_as_1_york_top s_out.php) a few weeks back ...

The King of the Forest Parties it Up
as 1 York Tops Out

Thursday, June 7, 2007, by ROK88

http://www.curbed.com/2007_06_1YorkTopOut1c.JPG

A tree grows at 1 York down at the edge of Tribeca. Or at least there's one tied to a big white steel beam looming above Canal Street. After all the steel (http://www.curbed.com/archives/2007/03/23/real_steel_rising_erect_at_nortens_1_york.php) that's gone into getting Enrique Norten's super-duper (http://www.curbed.com/archives/2005/04/27/nortens_1_york_street_la_is_landing.php) and gadget-filled (http://www.curbed.com/archives/2007/02/02/nortens_1_york_update_3_parking_in_paradise.php) condo development out of the ground (http://www.curbed.com/archives/2007/01/29/nortens_1_york_update_1_a_mere_shell.php) it's good to see that the ironworkers finally got the top-most beam raised yesterday. While those big galunks were partying down below the symbolic tree basked in the beautiful breeze above. The King of the Forest himself couldn't have ordered up a better day. One worker was heard to ask, "So, why do we put that tree up there?" But blank stares and silence were the only response.

In Germany (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richtfest&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DRichtfest%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff) they call the tree thing the Richtfest, and it seems to be as much about drinking beer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6ac2PcD8es) and showing off some skills as getting the building up.

http://www.curbed.com/2007_06_1YorkTopOut4.JPG
[Some hard working Germans celebrate the raising of the roof beam]

The history of the tree thing starts way back in the day when folks were chopping their way out of the woods and setting up camp. One big concern was trying to make sure they didn't piss off The Tree Spirit (aka The King of the Forest). The story goes something like this: Once upon a time people revered trees. Or, according to some guys who should know: (http://www.columbia.edu/cu/ssw/news/apr03/history.html)
... trees were the most common deity in Europe ... mythology suggests


that humans originated from trees and our souls returned to the trees after


death, giving each tree a spirit of its own ... Before cutting a tree, they would


formally address the forest ... the tree branches placed on top of the home


ensured fertility of the land and the home.



Today the custom is continued most frequently on completed structures


such as bridges and skyscrapers. Ironworkers have carried on the topping out tradition ...
And for that we give them thanks. After all it's a damn good excuse to down a nice cold beer.

http://www.curbed.com/2007_06_1YorkTopOut5.JPG
[Bovis supplied food and drink for the guys (top) but then it was back to work.]

Personally we can't wait for our favorite part of Enrique's little bit of paradise to get finished.
That would be the pool. We've already got some beer on ice. We're just waiting to pull up a lounge chair.

http://www.curbed.com/2007_06_1YorkTopOut3.JPG

· Real Steel Rising Erect at Norten's 1 York (http://www.curbed.com/archives/2007/03/23/real_steel_rising_erect_at_nortens_1_york.php) [Curbed]
· Norten's 1 York Street: L.A. Is Landing (http://www.curbed.com/archives/2005/04/27/nortens_1_york_street_la_is_landing.php) [Curbed]
· Norten's 1 York Update #1: A Mere Shell (http://www.curbed.com/archives/2007/01/29/nortens_1_york_update_1_a_mere_shell.php) [Curbed]
· Norten's 1 York Update #3: Parking in Paradise (http://www.curbed.com/archives/2007/02/02/nortens_1_york_update_3_parking_in_paradise.php) [Curbed]
· History of the "Topping Out" Ceremony (http://www.columbia.edu/cu/ssw/news/apr03/history.html) [The Ironworker]
· Arranging Celebration (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richtfest&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DRichtfest%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff) [Wikipedia]
· Den Kaisers ihr Richtfest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6ac2PcD8es) [youtube]

***

RandySavage
June 27th, 2007, 07:14 PM
So, yes, by the technical definition it has topped out. But the only topping out that matters to us is the crown (not the spire), which will hopefully represent the true skyline impact of this building (as long as it isn't as flimsy as the NYTT crown).

antinimby
June 27th, 2007, 07:29 PM
Darn it! I was really hoping they'd go a few more floors before topping out. :(

Scraperfannyc
June 27th, 2007, 11:25 PM
Darn it! I was really hoping they'd go a few more floors before topping out. :(

I'd say at least 20 more floors would be good. It's time midtown break the 1000 foot barrier and show significant effects to the skyline. I remain pessimistic as this is not the pattern these days. I will believe it will happen when I see it.

lofter1
June 27th, 2007, 11:37 PM
You can see in the photo with this article (http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showpost.php?p=173001&postcount=2121) that the Sixth Avenue crane is coming down :D

Spoon
June 28th, 2007, 12:06 AM
Do you guys think the top (crown) will have a lighting effect? The one rendering from the ESB shows it a much brighter solid white color. That would one huge glowing crown and would look awesome from that location.

It'll make Bear Stearn's beautiful crown envvious and Bear loves their building and crown. They put it on the cover of their 10K, or at least they have in the past.

lofter1
June 28th, 2007, 07:07 PM
Today workers were installing the structure around the subway entrance along Sixth Avenue above 42nd ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_22a.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_22b.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_22c.jpg

RandySavage
June 28th, 2007, 07:59 PM
Do you guys think the top (crown) will have a lighting effect?

I'm kind of hoping the crown will be indistinguishable from the rest of the building, creating the illusion of a solid mass and making the building look taller.

Throwing some spotlights on the the spire could work, though.

Scraperfannyc
June 29th, 2007, 12:43 AM
Do you guys think the top (crown) will have a lighting effect? The one rendering from the ESB shows it a much brighter solid white color. That would one huge glowing crown and would look awesome from that location.

It'll make Bear Stearn's beautiful crown envvious and Bear loves their building and crown. They put it on the cover of their 10K, or at least they have in the past.

I'm crossing my fingers that the crown will help make this building have a substantial impact on the skyline. The crown makes it come close to the 1000 foot mark I think. Just think how large and tall this building could be if the 6 story stump grew with this entire building, perhaps reaching 1500 feet or above.

millertime83
June 29th, 2007, 12:51 PM
Do you guys think the top (crown) will have a lighting effect? The one rendering from the ESB shows it a much brighter solid white color. That would one huge glowing crown and would look awesome from that location.


Anyone know what the WTC's lighting effects was supposed to look like? All I know about it is that the company designing it ended up making the "Towers of Light" memorials.

BrooklynRider
June 30th, 2007, 12:00 PM
I'm crossing my fingers that the crown will help make this building have a substantial impact on the skyline. The crown makes it come close to the 1000 foot mark I think. Just think how large and tall this building could be if the 6 story stump grew with this entire building, perhaps reaching 1500 feet or above.

From a skyline point of view, this will be another stump next to the Empire State Building.

ZippyTheChimp
July 1st, 2007, 07:04 PM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/440/boa19cdp3.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa19cdp3.jpg) http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5180/boa20ckp7.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa20ckp7.jpg) http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9854/boa21czo3.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa21czo3.jpg) http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2088/boa22cpt9.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa22cpt9.jpg) http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6763/boa23cgb3.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa23cgb3.jpg) http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9946/boa24cus5.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa24cus5.jpg)

MidtownGuy
July 1st, 2007, 07:42 PM
great photos!!
One of them is similar to a Durst website rendering and I wanted to see them side by side, so I hope you don't mind I'm posting it for people to check out.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1302/688687466_c9d861e624_o.jpg

I was still trying to fathom the "light closet" thingy.

antinimby
July 1st, 2007, 08:58 PM
Clearly, there are some deviations from the renderings.

Derek2k3
July 1st, 2007, 09:08 PM
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80742457/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80742179/large.jpg

Unless the design has changed, the building isn't close to topping out until the two south-facing sloping points meet. You can see it in the 2nd attatchment.

pianoman11686
July 2nd, 2007, 12:53 PM
Superb photos, Zip. That third one especially is dynamite.

This tower either does or does not make an impact, it depends on where you're viewing it from. For example, from high up on the Upper East Side, it has a rather unobstructed view, wedged right between GE and Conde Nast. It looks very good from there. From the Jersey side, it's often obscured by other Times Square towers, and it looks the same height as NY Times.

NoyokA
July 2nd, 2007, 01:28 PM
Superb photos, Zip. That third one especially is dynamite.

This tower either does or does not make an impact, it depends on where you're viewing it from. For example, from high up on the Upper East Side, it has a rather unobstructed view, wedged right between GE and Conde Nast. It looks very good from there. From the Jersey side, it's often obscured by other Times Square towers, and it looks the same height as NY Times.

I've found its best viewed driving north on the FDR.

Ninjahedge
July 2nd, 2007, 02:09 PM
3rd one is going to be a nice angle when it is finished...


Too bad none of us thought to mark certain shot locations so we could string the better ones together into a time lapse... ;)

ZippyTheChimp
July 2nd, 2007, 07:18 PM
great photos!!
One of them is similar to a Durst website rendering and I wanted to see them side by side, so I hope you don't mind I'm posting it for people to check out.Nope. Now I know where to stand to match them up - a little to the right until half the "4" is hidden.


I was still trying to fathom the "light closet" thingy.The explanation several pages back - that the rendering is incorrect in not depicting floors - doesn't make sense to me. If you have 30 or so triangular "rooms," why do you need a double curtain wall? The inside walls are just like any room divider. The double curtain wall only makes sense if you can see them - like in an atrium.

I liked the way the northern section seemed to cut through the southern tower.


This tower either does or does not make an impact, it depends on where you're viewing it from.From the park, I think the view is better in #4, where it's partially blocked by Verizon. As you move toward 42nd, it looks more bulky.

The glass looks pretty good, considering it is dirty. Those slim mullions make a big difference.

ablarc
July 2nd, 2007, 07:47 PM
Clearly, there are some deviations from the renderings.
Not much similarity at all.

Never could figure out what the rendering actually represented.

The reality is not as ambiguous but no prettier.

Can't warm to this one; not too good, imo.

I know, it's better than what was there ...

krulltime
July 3rd, 2007, 11:29 AM
Took these shots this past Sunday from Rockefeller Center Observation Deck...


July 1, 2007:

http://www.pbase.com/image/81600077.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/81600074.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/81600081.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/81600079.jpg

TREPYE
July 3rd, 2007, 11:33 AM
I know, it's better than what was there ...

Better than 95% of the architiecture we get in this city...

MidtownGuy
July 3rd, 2007, 11:41 AM
Once BOA gets its "spire" I think we'll have quite enough giant toothpicks on the skyline, especially in that area.

NYatKNIGHT
July 3rd, 2007, 12:02 PM
Looking impressive from there. Definitely awaiting the crown, the rest looks peculiar without it.

NYCDOC
July 3rd, 2007, 01:20 PM
I haven't been too impressed with this one either, until last night . . . .

I was at the Bryant Park summer movie festival and I was amazed at how great the buliding looks at night. Hard to find the right words to describe it, but I found myself many times distracted from the movie staring at it.

I too wish certain things about it were different, but in the end I think this will be a great addition to the skyline.

avm10
July 3rd, 2007, 02:42 PM
Perhaps I confused the matter with the whole double wall/light closet deal.

Once the c/w is done, espcially at the Top Of Building, you'll start to appreciate the complexity of the whole thing and how it finishes it off. At night that southeast corner will be lit up impressively, the thinned out spandral will help. It will be nice.

She does need a good cleaning though!

I've never really liked that rendering, its pretty inaccurate but, it was effective enough to convey the shape of the building. Also, note the shadows, the rendered image appears to have the sun lower in the sky. It will be really neat to see the final clad building beside the rendered image at around the same time and sun position to see the most accurate comparision.

Lastly great pictures guys, thank you.

antinimby
July 3rd, 2007, 07:44 PM
I think the glass dampened the other wise gloriousness of the design somewhat.

Imagine if they had used the same clear glass that they're using on the Comcast Center in Philadelphia instead. BOA would be stunning!

http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/projects/construction/comcast/images/0703-15.jpg

TREPYE
July 3rd, 2007, 10:56 PM
Imagine if they had used the same clear glass that they're using on the Comcast Center in Philadelphia instead. BOA would be stunning!


I resoundingly agree. The glass on this tower is very lackluster.

lofter1
July 3rd, 2007, 11:38 PM
Right now the glass is filthy. The interior of the tower has no lighting.

A few months ago folks were screaming about the glass / facade of the Times Tower, dumping on it for similar reasons.

I'm thinking the B of A Tower is going to look great in a few more months -- and after it gets scrubbed down.

ramvid01
July 4th, 2007, 01:26 AM
Right now the glass is filthy. The interior of the tower has no lighting.

A few months ago folks were screaming about the glass / facade of the Times Tower, dumping on it for similar reasons.

I'm thinking the B of A Tower is going to look great in a few more months -- and after it gets scrubbed down.

I completely agree. I think its way too early to write this glass off and also the lack of interior lighting makes the glass look different than it will look when it is lit up.

Derek2k3
July 4th, 2007, 02:19 AM
Some random shots over past few days.


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1293/713247854_dc4cfaa5b1_o.jpg


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1016/713248004_abbe0da96c_o.jpg


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1057/713247960_ac0f072989_o.jpg


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1233/713248072_ba6ee33f3f_o.jpg


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1056/713250940_658921963b.jpg


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1044/713248108_ff11589eea.jpg


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1246/713248094_07010e1dee.jpg

ZippyTheChimp
July 4th, 2007, 07:09 AM
A few months ago folks were screaming about the glass / facade of the Times Tower, dumping on it for similar reasons.Yeah, and IAC. Flog Gehry!

I like that the individual floors are defined, rather than the tower as a sheet of glass. Comcast looks great, but photos can enhance or diminish - depends on a lot of factors.

Like here:http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n72/russbaseball/P1000581.jpg

Fabrizio
July 4th, 2007, 09:44 AM
I agree with Zippy, those photos of the Comcast are a very unfair comparison.

Again great photos by Derek. Who does your lighting!?

Note BTW, how great these new buildings look when combined with NYC's old classic architecture. See the shots with the Knickerbocker.

Save the Hotel Penn!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1016/713248004_abbe0da96c_o.jpg

Derek2k3
July 4th, 2007, 05:27 PM
Thanks Fabrizio. I'm really getting into noticing that combination of old and new lately. Maybe I'll start a thread.

pianoman11686
July 5th, 2007, 11:50 AM
Note BTW, how great these new buildings look when combined with NYC's old classic architecture. See the shots with the Knickerbocker.

Save the Hotel Penn!

That^ sounds like an argument to demolish it. Can't have the juxtaposition without replacing some of the old.

Oh wait, but then we'd lose that "Gotham" look of the uninterrupted 7th avenue streetwall. So which scenario is more Gotham? And which is more interesting? (The answer to these two might be the same.)

Fabrizio
July 5th, 2007, 12:02 PM
Well if you really want to get technical, you'll notice that the Knickerbocker is across the street from the modern buildings in the photo posted.

The Hotel Penn (and that uninterupted 7th ave street wall ) would be across the street from the new buildings replacing the MSG complex. So let me say it again: save the Hotel Penn.

Understand the spirit of my post. However, if I had to clarify, I'd say it's the modern buildings that gain the most from having the classic neigbors.

pianoman11686
July 5th, 2007, 09:59 PM
Nope, don't wanna get technical.

Bob
July 5th, 2007, 10:04 PM
If you really want "Gotham," check out 20 Exchange Place. Better than anything in the comic books.

DarrylStrawberry
July 6th, 2007, 06:10 PM
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this already, in a way BofA's curtain wall reminds me of the Citicorp Building.

http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/g/gs/gso27/582006_citicorp_building.jpg

ablarc
July 6th, 2007, 07:21 PM
As one bank to another ...

lugdus
July 6th, 2007, 10:38 PM
Midday

Derek2k3
July 6th, 2007, 11:51 PM
^Nice. From today.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1351/743979727_207d9fa2e8_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1176/743979745_b55e6469a0_o.jpg

NYguy
July 7th, 2007, 07:19 AM
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this already, in a way BofA's curtain wall reminds me of the Citicorp Building.


I was thinking the same exact thing a couple of weeks ago...

conezone
July 9th, 2007, 01:22 AM
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7003/img0352mi8.jpg


http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/16/img0412np8.jpg

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/776/panoag8.th.jpg (http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=panoag8.jpg)

lofter1
July 9th, 2007, 10:43 AM
The B of A site (at lower left) from 130 years ago ...

http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beach/fig16-34.jpg

42nd St station, view east possibly from a church steeple.
On the right is Bryant Park and the old Egyptian-style storage reservoir.
From Harper’s Weekly, July 20, 1878.

Beach Pneumatic / Columbia. edu (http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beach/chapter16.html)

ZippyTheChimp
July 9th, 2007, 11:15 AM
The 6th Ave El had the most ornate stations of any line in the city.

Ninjahedge
July 9th, 2007, 02:20 PM
I wonder how degenerated they got to warrant their removal.

Removal of the track is one thing, but the stations were both a sight AND a possible infrastructure unit (pedestrian crossing, or something akin to the retail "bridges" in Italy...).

Its a shame. The things taht are most often kept are usually the easiest, and least worth it in many ways....

Morocco Mole
July 9th, 2007, 05:39 PM
Steel is currently at the 52 Mezzanine and 53rd Floor. Four more floors of steel bring it to an even 900'. The screenwall (curtainwall parapet) will bring it to 965'. The spire, which will start going up in late August/early September, will bring it to an even 1200'.

Aside from the bizarrely rendered double-wall area, it will look very similar to the rendering in terms of shape, etc. I can't speak to the glass.

sfenn1117
July 10th, 2007, 12:42 AM
^Welcome and thanks for that info.

rmannion
July 10th, 2007, 03:33 AM
conezone: amazing "cut-away" photo! Thanks for sharing.

Derek2k3
July 10th, 2007, 07:56 AM
Nice conezone. Thanks for the info Morocco Mole.

lofter1
July 14th, 2007, 09:51 AM
Up top at the SE corner a new type of steel is going in (my cell cam couldn't capture it) --

Rather than the rust-colored steel it appears to be aluminum or galvinized.

Meanwhile down below, more glass -- here at mid-block along 42nd ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_23a.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_23b.jpg

And here near the corner of 42nd / Sixth ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_23c.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_23d.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/1%20Bryant%20Park%20Bank%20America%20Tower/L1BA_23h.jpg

antinimby
July 14th, 2007, 02:51 PM
Rather than the rust-colored steel it appears to be aluminum or galvinized.That just means they've topped out as far as the occupied floors are concern.

Those floors are usually devoted to holding mechanical equipment and of course, forms the framework for the crown.

Here's the Times Square tower similarly topping out a few years ago:

http://www.wirednewyork.com/skyscrapers/10xsq/images/10times_square_49th_26may03.jpg

Derek2k3
July 15th, 2007, 11:32 AM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1376/818599853_d7431e4d04_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1035/818599789_2d6831b33e_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1047/818600109_999cd337fc_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1104/818599823_c41f6b695a_o.jpg
The pre-re-clad Verizon would have intereacted much better with this tower.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1389/818599861_607cdc9094_o.jpg

From some dirty windows at NYU Medical.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1309/818696469_b274dd2df1_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1012/818696449_6abcaffe3d_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1293/818695823_11e195d25f_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1038/818695839_84e2fa3e00_o.jpg

kliq6
July 16th, 2007, 09:32 AM
In the end, this tower is a nice addition to the Midtown skyline, but agreed I wish the tower itself was 100 feet taller and with spire it was 1,300

NYguy
July 16th, 2007, 08:29 PM
Easily my favorite under construction in Midtown. Now I'm just waiting for
the next big step, the spire...

JULY 14, 2007

1.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82347830/large.jpg

2.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82347848/large.jpg

3.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82347865/large.jpg

4.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82347873/large.jpg

5.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82347940/large.jpg

6.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82347966/large.jpg

7.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82347970/large.jpg

8.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82347993/large.jpg

9.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82348027/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82348027/original.jpg

kliq6
July 17th, 2007, 10:07 AM
Your favorite under construction in Midtown, thats a heck of a statement since there are only three under construction now

Ninjahedge
July 17th, 2007, 02:11 PM
The B of A site (at lower left) from 130 years ago ...

http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beach/fig16-34.jpg

42nd St station, view east possibly from a church steeple.
On the right is Bryant Park and the old Egyptian-style storage reservoir.
From Harper’s Weekly, July 20, 1878.

Beach Pneumatic / Columbia. edu (http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beach/chapter16.html)

Shortly after readingthis last week, I looked in the entrance on teh East side of 6th avenue on 42nd street (North) and saw this very picture in the stairway (header?).

Odd sometimes it takes someone to point something out before you notice it yourself....

lofter1
July 17th, 2007, 02:22 PM
City of SPIRES ^^^ back in 1878 ...

mao miaow
July 18th, 2007, 11:43 AM
Hey does anyone know what was on the site before the construction of 1 Bryant Park (Bank of America Building) ?.. Is this a retrofitting or simply a new construction? I'm studying the latest trends in retrofitting.

txs :)

ZippyTheChimp
July 18th, 2007, 11:50 AM
^
The site was a collection of 1 story stores, and a theater on 43rd St that has been incorporated into the building.

Start at the beginning of this thread. There should be some photos of the site on the first 20 pages.

Derek2k3
July 20th, 2007, 01:26 PM
I was hoping this could be moved to the next page...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1164/859095871_a34b8769cf_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1345/859095853_08b85155d3_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1291/859095859_c454bc41df_o.jpg
Expensive details.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1220/859095839_1a2247b8f0_o.jpg
Do they have a controlled system of blinds? Individual pull downs won't look too good with all this clear glass. Then again maybe it'll be interesting.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1038/859103553_476daf537c_o.jpg
Funny how this building is approaching 900' and is barely visible from the west, east, or north sides.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1058/859095883_e9de980e0b_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1324/859103533_26312e1f8b_o.jpg

londonlawyer
July 20th, 2007, 03:30 PM
Hey does anyone know what was on the site before the construction of 1 Bryant Park (Bank of America Building) ?.. Is this a retrofitting or simply a new construction? I'm studying the latest trends in retrofitting.

txs :)

It was one of the worst blocks in Midtown. It was a hodgepoge of filthy, disgusting buildings that were apropos when Bryant Park was a drug den, but were totally out of place thereafter.

lesterp4
July 20th, 2007, 03:59 PM
I was walking by the site and noticed there is more steel work on the south side of the bldg. for more floors. I thought they had topped out?

Tectonic
July 20th, 2007, 07:13 PM
Very nice angles from Derek2k3, I would like to see how they take the cranes down. The one in front looks like its work is done. If anyones know when they coming down let me know. I'll try to go see.

ablarc
July 20th, 2007, 07:39 PM
A pair of obnoxious buildings:


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1058/859095883_e9de980e0b_o.jpg

antinimby
July 20th, 2007, 11:27 PM
They're not everyone's cup of tea and that's fine but I like them. Conde Nast provides Times Square with an anchor and both give it some pizzaz.

Derek2k3
July 22nd, 2007, 08:52 AM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1259/841994653_46f533d25a.jpg
Larger here. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/827685401/in/pool-newyorkcityskyline/)
pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1298/827685401_1dbb6b2b1c.jpg
Larger here. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/841994653/in/pool-newyorkcityskyline/)
pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/)

GVNY
July 22nd, 2007, 09:41 AM
Reviewing the two photographs graciously provided, I now recognize and acknowledge the critique that these towers' pathetic spires do nothing to enhance the city's silhouette.

Compared to the Empire State Building and earlier New York precedents, we have been provided with rather commiserable pinnacles as a replacement for formerly grand taperings into the sky.

I am troubled by this lack of respect for a historically important New York orientation: the skyline.

LeCom
July 22nd, 2007, 02:18 PM
Great shots Derek. I like how the three of the 1000 ft spire towers are located so close to each other, yet each of them anchors a neighborhood completely different from the others': Bank of America will soon become the peak of the very corporate 6th Avenue area, Conde nast dominates Times Square, 7th Avenue and the Theatrer District in general, and NYTT is the most significant project on the rapidly developing 8th avenue Midtown frontier.

lugdus
July 22nd, 2007, 02:45 PM
That is the crane at 1 BP. The spire will be 200 feet higher. At 4 TS, that is an antenna which was added after the building was built. The height of the building was limited by ESDC, and was originally built with a shorter antenna.

Derek2k3
July 22nd, 2007, 03:02 PM
Except for maybe the Westin, the tops of all the new Times Square towers look incoherent. Hopefully the top of BofA won't end up looking like a mess too.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1349/848352003_fc813528f6_b.jpg
pmarella (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/)

Fabrizio
July 22nd, 2007, 03:55 PM
I think the only new tower with a coherent top is the NYTimes. There are vague references to the London Houses of Parliment as well as the original Times building in the middle of Times Square. At least it looks like SOMETHING. Unfortunately the execution is a bit match-stick sculture.

The Conde Nast building holds it's own too, but everything else new is pretty awfull.

http://www.globalgeografia.com/album/gran_bretagna/londra5.jpg

stache
July 22nd, 2007, 05:33 PM
NY Times crown is horrible. It doesn't screen the mechanicals and it looks like crap.

Derek2k3
July 22nd, 2007, 07:14 PM
Not so much the Times for me, but that Hilton, 3,4,5, & 7 Times Square. I'm glad they all have some kind of top though, better than a flat roof.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/549901572_4cdb31558d_b.jpg
thnewsom (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thnewsom/549901572/in/pool-nyc_architecture/)

ablarc
July 22nd, 2007, 08:15 PM
I think the only new tower with a coherent top is the NYTimes. There are vague references to the London Houses of Parliment as well as the original Times building in the middle of Times Square. At least it looks like SOMETHING. Unfortunately the execution is a bit match-stick sculture.
Don't tell me it's finished?!?

Citytect
July 22nd, 2007, 09:33 PM
I hope the crown on the NYT Tower looks a little better after they build the rooftop garden, because it's a bit of a mess as-is. It's really a shame, because the building is a beauty. Design-wise, the crown is the one area I think the BOA tower will be more successful than the Times building.

TimmyG
July 23rd, 2007, 08:54 AM
Is the rooftop garden still planned? I thought it had been scrapped.

ld876
July 23rd, 2007, 02:24 PM
I agree -- NY Times crown looks horrible when you can see the mechanical stuff up there, window washer, etc. Same for the Orion -- such a beautiful building, but I hate seeing the window washer crane!

macreator
July 23rd, 2007, 02:54 PM
Is the rooftop garden still planned? I thought it had been scrapped.

I believe one of the law firms that leased a ton of space in the building from Ratner also took on the responsibility of creating the roof garden. They will have exclusive use of it.

econ_tim
July 24th, 2007, 04:33 PM
i read that there is now a spire on BOA. can anyone confirm?

Derek2k3
July 24th, 2007, 04:59 PM
Not true, they did add another mechanical floor in the last 2 days though. maybe i'll get some pics up later today.

Bob
July 24th, 2007, 05:52 PM
At this point, I'm not overly impressed with the BOA tower. The glass is ugly. The shape is strange. The slanted curtain wall along 42nd is unusual and unnecessary. It's certainly an improvement over the low-rise dreck that was on this block before, but as a skyscraper it leaves me with an empty stomach.

Derek2k3
July 24th, 2007, 11:49 PM
I think it's one of those skyscrapers that can't be judged until it's finished. It isn't a predictable tower with repeated floors like Sky House. I only get a true sense of the shape when the glass covers the steel.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1142/891685026_9bbb42f75b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1175/891684988_b4818717e7.jpg

James Kovata
July 25th, 2007, 12:23 AM
Will the crane need to be jacked up again to complete the curtain wall/crown?

Would you say that the level of the crane operator's box is about the level of the top of the crown?

RandySavage
July 25th, 2007, 12:32 AM
I think it's one of those skyscrapers that can't be judged until it's finished.

Agreed.

Bugsy12
July 25th, 2007, 04:18 PM
I think the tower's prominence, when viewed from the west (read: Jersey), will be decided by the transparency, or lack thereof, of the crown. If too transparent, the building will end up hiding behind Conde Nast, despite its additional height. I still have my fingers crossed for this one.

RandySavage
July 25th, 2007, 06:03 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1041/895723880_cfe45d69be_b.jpg

^ I agree but only if looking due east on 42nd St. From further south, Hoboken for example, it will be prominent regardless of the transparency.

Photo Credit: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/

RandySavage
July 25th, 2007, 06:06 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1142/895224884_94ccc3a32e_b.jpg

same photo credit as above.

DominicanoNYC
July 25th, 2007, 11:27 PM
Wow those are some great shots. I love this building!

sfenn1117
July 26th, 2007, 01:55 AM
7/25

http://i13.tinypic.com/4ys2gj4.jpg

http://flickr.com/photos/franksvalli/900157431/

ablarc
July 26th, 2007, 01:22 PM
Wow those are some great shots. I love this building!
Welcome back, Dominicano, after your three-year absence. Occasionally someone wonders where you went.

kliq6
July 26th, 2007, 01:31 PM
I took a tour of the site the other day with one of the clients. went to the top floor 52 and can tell you that it is higher then Crysler and NY Times already without the spire and in the end this site will stand out for sure

antinimby
July 26th, 2007, 05:51 PM
Did you go up using the outside elevator or were the internal ones already up and running?

Paoloman
July 27th, 2007, 10:25 AM
This morning on the Today show there was a live shot looking south at eye level from the roof of the GE building. At center was the ES building and off to the right and very prominent was the BOA building. I was rather impressed given that the BOA, not to its full height, appeared like a dominant player in the Skyline. I realize this was an isolated shot and the rest of mid-town was not in view. I think when all is said and done with this building it will be a standout.

paoloman

EugeneNYC
July 27th, 2007, 11:04 AM
I was passing by a few weeks ago and I wasn't crazy about how the building starts out like a box and only about two third's of the way up is when the wedge begins. I think the design could have been much more fluid if the wedge wasn't so "sharp".

Derek2k3
July 28th, 2007, 04:33 PM
It's remarkable that it will only be the same height as Tower 4 of the WTC.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1281/888916147_2a249d0605_b.jpg
shingen_au (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shingen_au/)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1415/890169286_c89cb7dde4_b.jpg
shingen_au (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shingen_au/)



http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1087/909539587_9fa66d68b8_b.jpg
cactus22minus1 (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=44861&page=78)
More nice photos posted here on SkyscraperPage. (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=44861&page=78)

With all these angles going on, I would have been happier with a quieter glass...even solid black would've been fine.

stache
July 28th, 2007, 05:34 PM
I didn't realize it was so smoggy recently.

Scraperfannyc
July 28th, 2007, 05:50 PM
Although I think the architecture for this building is very good, the roof height is still pretty lame for Midtown. I think it barely breaks 800 feet, and that this might be the tallest occupied building height built since the early 1930's does not say much to me.
I'll keep saying it: I want some serious height in midtown, none of this spire crap!

Pussy Willow
July 28th, 2007, 06:57 PM
^
Amen

kz1000ps
July 28th, 2007, 07:15 PM
edited...

thanks for understanding, scraperfannyc!

Alonzo-ny
July 28th, 2007, 08:31 PM
Although I think the architecture for this building is very good, the roof height is still pretty lame for Midtown. I think it barely breaks 800 feet, and that this might be the tallest occupied building height built since the early 1930's does not say much to me.
I'll keep saying it: I want some serious height in midtown, none of this spire crap!

little reminder http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/41675885/large.jpg

econ_tim
July 29th, 2007, 12:33 AM
cactus22minus1 (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=44861&page=78)


wow. that shot makes the building i work in (1166 6th) look interesting, or at least sleek. in most pics it looks rather dull.

BrooklynRider
July 29th, 2007, 02:19 AM
The best barometer for new midtown buildings on the skyline is the view from the Brooklyn Bridge. This building isn't making much of an impression. NYT Tower makes more of an impact. So does the Epic.

Additionally, I want to give a brief rant:

THE SPIRE doesn't count in my book toward the height of a building. I go by roof height, personally. That this is billed as the "second tallest" building in NY at completion is a lot of hooey. Yes, I said "hooey."

Alonzo-ny
July 29th, 2007, 12:22 PM
Above the 945ft roof height the chrysler spire has about as much mass as the BOA spire in fact probably less. I think 945ft is chryslers roof height before spire in fact.

After visiting my buddies at the statue yesterday BOA is starting to come out of the skyline and i think it will have an impact from that angle. Its looking tall from down there surpassing the times tower

ramvid01
July 29th, 2007, 06:03 PM
I think theres still about 50 to 100 feet left on the building or at least thats what I can gather from the pictures and renderings. Another 50+ feet will make a big difference on it's impact on the skyline I think.

Scraperfannyc
July 30th, 2007, 11:22 AM
BOA roof height is approxamitely 815 feet high. The rest is a sham top and then spire. At least it is better than 500 or 600 feet.
Today's spires make these buildings look cheaper to me though. There is no architecture to these spires, and I'd rather have a statue or design on top. The sham top for the new york times building, whose highest occupied space is about 750 feet, is pretty bad looking too. Looks like a picket fence or something of that nature.

DominicanoNYC
July 30th, 2007, 04:18 PM
BOA roof height is approxamitely 815 feet high. The rest is a sham top and then spire. At least it is better than 500 or 600 feet.
Today's spires make these buildings look cheaper to me though. There is no architecture to these spires, and I'd rather have a statue or design on top. The sham top for the new york times building, whose highest occupied space is about 750 feet, is pretty bad looking too. Looks like a picket fence or something of that nature.

I agree. I'm wondering how this will look though.

Scraperfannyc
July 30th, 2007, 05:19 PM
I agree. I'm wondering how this will look though.

I really like the design of the BOA building so far, so I hope the top does not look too fake.

It's funny that we are seeing fake tops on buildings these days made to look like additional floors. What kind of statement is being made with this? Is the developer saying they want to build taller, but they can't, or that they can build taller but refuse to do so, or what?

stache
July 30th, 2007, 08:10 PM
when they put false fronts on buildings to make the town look more imposing -

kliq6
July 31st, 2007, 09:10 AM
I really like the design of the BOA building so far, so I hope the top does not look too fake.

It's funny that we are seeing fake tops on buildings these days made to look like additional floors. What kind of statement is being made with this? Is the developer saying they want to build taller, but they can't, or that they can build taller but refuse to do so, or what?

They can build taller but its not as economicially viable to do it. Not many firms want to take a lease for space 1100 feet up, thats just plan fact.

RandySavage
July 31st, 2007, 11:02 AM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1015/962245229_d91d9d41c4_b.jpg

Another floor added.

Courtesy of http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/

Derek2k3
August 1st, 2007, 12:54 AM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1253/969357641_49091eeeb7.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=969357641&size=o)


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1415/969348577_d265c79060.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=969348577&size=o)


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1116/969348649_5dacb53fd9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=969348649&size=o)


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1231/969348291_0040a68dfe.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=969348291&size=o)
brrrr...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1071/969348521_dac790976d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=969348521&size=o)

Spoon
August 1st, 2007, 04:17 PM
Nice now it's finally starting to look tall.

ablarc
August 2nd, 2007, 06:41 PM
Corpulent.






(Pot belly.)

Alonzo-ny
August 2nd, 2007, 08:11 PM
The building is visible from the N in astoria and i think it will be moderately prominent from that point and will make the view from the N train the best view of the skyline with esb chrysler twt citi bloomberg and conde nast antenna and boa all visible poking the sky.

econ_tim
August 2nd, 2007, 09:04 PM
here are a couple pics of BOA's impact from the resevoir

sorry that one is dark and the other is blurry

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3950/boa1bd8.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9508/boa2zw3.jpg

BrooklynRider
August 2nd, 2007, 09:07 PM
I kind of like that dark one. Interesting image to meditate on.

James Kovata
August 2nd, 2007, 11:26 PM
Is the current construction part of the crown or it is more mechanical floors. From past posts, I cannot tell. Thanks

Alonzo-ny
August 3rd, 2007, 02:22 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1017/999556880_96b6d1373c_o.gif

Derek2k3
August 4th, 2007, 10:02 AM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1369/1006909855_96a7c7f0aa_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1127/1006909815_3e50e84918_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1083/1006909693_0e8a4460bd.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1006909693&size=o)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1298/1006909773_0b378c0283.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1006909773&size=o)

DarrylStrawberry
August 4th, 2007, 07:58 PM
8/4/07

Derek2k3
August 9th, 2007, 08:29 PM
Not quite...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1376/869203993_492f75f839_b.jpg
m1mx (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10172395@N07/)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1207/869207291_a4824dd93e_b.jpg
m1mx (http://www.flickr.com/photos/10172395@N07/)
The 800' Kondylis tower at 240 Church Street will tower over Tribeca. From Midtown it will appear to be Downtown's tallest building excluding the projects in the pipeline.

NewYorkDoc
August 9th, 2007, 10:09 PM
Where is this 800 foot tower you speak of? Has it been discussed here?

ZippyTheChimp
August 9th, 2007, 10:26 PM
^
We have a thread on it.
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9831

Derek2k3
August 10th, 2007, 01:18 AM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1056/1065277766_36ec7e4345.jpg
juliomiyares (http://www.flickr.com/photos/juliomiyares/)
I think the mechanical floors are topped off now.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1348/1018162781_08f9088acd_o.jpg

Not the most current pic but I can't believe how green they're making Verizon.

Derek2k3
August 10th, 2007, 03:14 PM
Check out these great panos. Click them for a link to their original sizes.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1162/1073450349_ad42deb057_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1151/1041270125_3c9bd3a893_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1041270125&size=l)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1109/1041269153_17cf23c341_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1041269153&size=l)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1026/950705167_a0eb5ee661_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=950705167&size=l)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1301/990963979_3b8bbf1ef1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=990963979&size=l)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1155/1041269931_b5daa3db19_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1041269501&size=l)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1168/1041269501_57de8cc8fb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1041269931&size=l)
attilamag (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55353120@N00/)

Derek2k3
August 10th, 2007, 03:23 PM
Just to remind us how good we have it.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1022/1041336359_0f9743be6c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1041336359&size=l)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1268/950706097_a8b0a96335_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=950706097&size=l)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1299/1041335691_192942d6d2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1041335691&size=l)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1184/1041270645_702a2ef9e1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1041270645&size=l)
attilamag (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55353120@N00/)

Tectonic
August 10th, 2007, 05:06 PM
NICE PICTURES! Any east side shots?

NewYorkDoc
August 10th, 2007, 05:22 PM
Derek....MUCHAS GRACIAS AMIGO for the plethora of photos lately! Kudos to you! :D

ZippyTheChimp
August 12th, 2007, 04:22 PM
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6816/boa25cns0.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa25cns0.jpg) http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1073/boa26cea7.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa26cea7.jpg)

Jeffreyny
August 12th, 2007, 11:35 PM
have we topped out?

NYatKNIGHT
August 13th, 2007, 12:07 AM
I'm not seeing how the top as it is now will look like the model.

RandySavage
August 13th, 2007, 10:29 AM
Not "topped out" yet. I'm guessing that rectangular box will encase the spire. The curtain wall still has a little ways to go. In the close-up photo above the right edge of the topmost white crossbeam needs to come to a point with the vertical beam on the far right.

lofter1
August 13th, 2007, 11:15 AM
I'm not seeing how the top as it is now will look like the model.

Now they put a pointy hat on top ;)

ati_m
August 13th, 2007, 12:53 PM
Thanks Derek2k3 for displaying my panos :D ..hehe..

Yeah, I got one from east side where you can see the B.A.T.. But it was taken over a month ago...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1063/950704693_2f04695524_b.jpg
Original size (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=950704693&size=o)
/attila

NYatKNIGHT
August 13th, 2007, 01:02 PM
^Another good one.

I noticed that from the Williamsburg Bridge, BoA stands out amazingly well.

RandySavage
August 14th, 2007, 05:08 PM
Looking good from Jersey:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1341/1106560157_dc4ee9064d_b.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/

kz1000ps
August 14th, 2007, 08:22 PM
There's been some phenomenal shots and panos posted recently (and a special thanks to Derek for culling so many of them), but this one takes the cake. It's great (and awfully rare) to see a picture of Manhattan with rowhome neighborhoods in the foreground.

RandySavage
August 14th, 2007, 08:51 PM
This PMarrella on Flickr is a very talented photographer, who seems to take daily sunset and sunrise photos of NYC. You should check out some of his/her other shots...

nyck
August 15th, 2007, 02:01 PM
The view from DUMBO (8/14/07)

Tectonic
August 15th, 2007, 02:08 PM
I think CNN changed its shot of the Empire State because of the BOA Tower started blocking it.

Alonzo-ny
August 15th, 2007, 11:31 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1023/1132679859_4139e38b65_o.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1094/1132678545_6a905f54e7_o.jpg

Today at clocking out time.

NoyokA
August 16th, 2007, 12:02 AM
Nice view, where do you work alonzo?

Alonzo-ny
August 16th, 2007, 12:16 AM
On 22nd just off 5th, 17th floor, its a view you just gotta see in person its amazing. The buildings create cool optical effect of a slope as though the esb is on a hill, but really its just huge.

Check out the website our buildings are really quite classy.

www.pbdw.com

NoyokA
August 16th, 2007, 12:24 AM
Thanks, good stuff.

JCMAN320
August 16th, 2007, 05:00 PM
Looking good from Jersey:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1341/1106560157_dc4ee9064d_b.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmarella/

Randy great shot from the Jersey City Heights looking over Hoboken. Yea it is rare to brownstone neighborhoods in the foreground, but thats what we have here in New Jersey with Hoboken.

Again Randy great shot man classic NY image from Jersey.

Also this another reason why Hoboken shouldn't build condos up against and past the JC Heights, because you lose views like this that the natural elevation of the Heights give the residents of this area of Jersey City have had for centuries.

ZippyTheChimp
August 18th, 2007, 07:09 PM
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/290/boa27cqk4.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa27cqk4.jpg) http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/572/boa28ctk6.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa28ctk6.jpg) http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2945/boa29cck8.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa29cck8.jpg) http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3606/boa30cit6.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa30cit6.jpg) http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7918/boa31ckp8.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa31ckp8.jpg) http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8103/boa32ciz3.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa32ciz3.jpg) http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3548/boa33cax3.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boa33cax3.jpg)