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May 7th, 2003, 04:22 PM
For all Guess the [...location...] picture and hint tidbits.

Feel free to play and participate by visiting the last page and respective responses, also first browse through earlier replies and topics titles.

(Edited by Stern at 7:25 pm on May 22, 2003)

NyC MaNiAc
May 7th, 2003, 04:41 PM

small picture, which will make it a little harder, but I think most New Yorkers should know this...

I have a hint (if needed) that consists of what borough it is located...so if you need the hint, just ask for it.

Also, cheat if you want, but if you do, please do not participate.

May 7th, 2003, 04:43 PM
Thanks Maniac. Rule #1, no cheating.

TLOZ Link5
May 7th, 2003, 08:06 PM
The Botanical Garden, I would think.

But which one...

NyC MaNiAc
May 7th, 2003, 08:59 PM
I'm going to give it to you TLOZ. Very good. It is in fact the botanical gardens in the Bronx.

(Edited by NyC MaNiAc at 9:00 pm on May 7, 2003)

TLOZ Link5
May 8th, 2003, 05:20 PM
Yay! *I knew it!

May 14th, 2003, 04:56 PM
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/pc4b20a4671bb91485086eaf56674b643/fc31ad1e.jpg

May 14th, 2003, 05:09 PM
New York Life Building on Madison Square?

May 14th, 2003, 06:46 PM

May 14th, 2003, 07:21 PM
No, definetly New York Life. Lets increase the level of difficulty just a little, guys...

May 15th, 2003, 09:14 AM
You mean increase the level of difficulty like your last picture that absolutely no one could guess even after you gave a hint, Stern? I knew it might be an easy one for some people, I just thought I'd revive the game again.

The New York Life Building on Madison Square:


(Edited by NYatKNIGHT at 10:11 am on May 15, 2003)

May 15th, 2003, 09:22 AM
Relax. Okay, next!

May 15th, 2003, 11:45 AM
okay, you guys want difficult, hold on... I got a good one.

NyC MaNiAc
May 15th, 2003, 05:02 PM
Let's go Stern!

May 15th, 2003, 09:54 PM

May 15th, 2003, 10:33 PM
Is it in Williamsburg?

May 16th, 2003, 08:02 PM
Hint #1 it is part of a college; university.

(Edited by Stern at 8:03 pm on May 16, 2003)

May 16th, 2003, 08:11 PM
Someone, get over to Columbia and report back.

May 17th, 2003, 12:58 AM
heh Zippy.

I've been on Columbia's campus a few times, and I can't remember any buildings like that with traffic lights out front. Most of the nice buildings are inside those fortress walls.

And the one's at Columbia look better IMHO :)

But I could easily be mistaken. I'd be much amused if that was part of NYU ;)

May 19th, 2003, 05:40 PM
No such building at NYU. *If it's not Columbia then perhaps it's St. John's?

May 20th, 2003, 09:21 AM
Brooklyn College?

May 20th, 2003, 11:18 AM
St. Paul's chapel Columbia?

May 20th, 2003, 04:32 PM

May 20th, 2003, 05:28 PM
I think Fordham's neo-Gothic.

May 21st, 2003, 01:53 AM
Earl Hall at Columbia, shot from Broadway and 117th Street.

May 21st, 2003, 05:54 AM
Earl Hall, it is.

May 21st, 2003, 08:09 AM
Do I get honorable mention? Just because I was too lazy to go over there myself shouldn't be held against me.

May 21st, 2003, 08:31 AM
pl86 wins :biggrin:

Great job, Earl Hall it is, as it wasnt too easy.


May 22nd, 2003, 04:07 PM

May 22nd, 2003, 04:14 PM
Cass Gilbert's 90 W. Street

May 22nd, 2003, 05:10 PM

May 22nd, 2003, 05:38 PM
you got it bak

May 22nd, 2003, 05:40 PM
This is a tough audience for this game. Either its too obvious, or too obscure.


This building is stuck in my mind as the worse example of a dirty facade on a non-trivial building. I just had to take a photo of it.

May 22nd, 2003, 07:15 PM
Hmmm... I think I know this one, but let me take a stab at it first.

Is there a giant needle and button statue in the plaza?

May 22nd, 2003, 07:19 PM
And is it the World Apparel Center in the Garnment District.... I knew it.

May 22nd, 2003, 08:19 PM
Hmm, I think Stern should be banned from participating in this game :)


World Apparel Center (http://www.skyscrapers.com/re/en/wm/bu/115380/)

May 22nd, 2003, 08:40 PM
How did the facade become so deteriorated?

May 22nd, 2003, 09:09 PM
Fair enough tugrul ;). Ill post one...


(Edited by Stern at 9:10 pm on May 22, 2003)

May 22nd, 2003, 09:18 PM

May 22nd, 2003, 09:57 PM
Is it New Jersey side of Hudson in the background?

May 22nd, 2003, 09:57 PM
Standard Oil Building? (http://www.skyscrapers.com/re/en/wm/bu/115566/)


TLOZ Link5
May 22nd, 2003, 09:59 PM
Darnit Grul, I was just about to say that :angry:

Plus you just posted it two minutes ago! *Grrr...

May 22nd, 2003, 10:04 PM
I think we have a winner

May 22nd, 2003, 10:11 PM
Not to claim premature victory here before Stern speaks, but here is my favorite grid effect :) Its cooler in person.


May 23rd, 2003, 09:09 AM
Yes, and thats 101 Barclay Street. The grid effect creates the perception of substancial height, despite its 23 storeys in true height.

May 23rd, 2003, 06:05 PM
And to try something a little different.
Guess the location where these pictures were taken.





(Edited by Stern at 6:08 pm on May 23, 2003)

(Edited by Stern at 6:09 pm on May 23, 2003)

May 23rd, 2003, 06:27 PM

May 23rd, 2003, 06:42 PM
That second photo rules out AIG.

Bankers Trust Company Building (http://www.skyscrapers.com/re/en/wm/bu/114527/)?


My first guess was the Equitable Building (http://www.skyscrapers.com/re/en/wm/bu/115589/), but the roof decorations didn't fit :)

May 24th, 2003, 10:18 AM
Hmm, I think Tugrul should be banned from participating in this game

(Edited by Stern at 10:19 am on May 24, 2003)

May 24th, 2003, 10:22 PM
where was it?

May 24th, 2003, 10:23 PM
Is that the original MSG?

May 24th, 2003, 11:22 PM
good guess, but no

May 25th, 2003, 04:19 PM
hint: opened 1905, closed 1949, last owner: RKO

May 25th, 2003, 04:55 PM
The theater was on 6th Ave. between 43rd and 44th Streets. It was built by the creators of Luna Park and closed in 1939.

May 25th, 2003, 05:15 PM
close. *correct answer: the NY Hippodrome, which became a Keith-Orpheum vaudeville house, located one block from Times Square

May 25th, 2003, 05:19 PM
I consulted the Encyclopedia of NYC.

May 25th, 2003, 06:53 PM
Call me an authoritative cheater.

TLOZ Link5
May 25th, 2003, 11:02 PM
The facade actually incorporated some towers that were relocated from Luna Park. *The performance on opening night was A Yankee Circus On Mars, one of the most extravagant productions in New York. *To this day, the auditorium of the now-demolished Hippodrome was larger than any other theater ever built.

May 26th, 2003, 08:14 AM
More information on the Hippodrome and its most recent incarnation here:


(Edited by Stern at 8:14 am on May 26, 2003)

May 26th, 2003, 11:35 AM
some things never change: "When construction had begun, residents of the area expressed their disapproval of the project, which had come to them as a great surprise." more Hippodrome trivia (http://home.luna.nl/~xino/times2/ts06.htm)here

Jack Ryan
June 7th, 2003, 10:11 PM
Thats the old Standard Oil Building at 26 Broadway, right?

Jack Ryan
June 7th, 2003, 10:15 PM
Disregard my last answer. Somehow I failed to see a couple of pages and it ended up here. It was the Standard Oil Building, though.

June 30th, 2003, 11:29 AM
Reviving the game......


June 30th, 2003, 11:41 AM
Too bourgeois for me. (Original excuse for ignorance.)

June 30th, 2003, 11:58 AM
I'm going to need a hint on this one. *What is that reflected in the window?

June 30th, 2003, 01:50 PM
I'm pretty sure I saw this recently...is it the entrance to the Crate & Barrel Store near Houston Street?

June 30th, 2003, 02:13 PM
What can I say, you guys are good! Yes bak, it is the entrance to the Crate and Barrel Store on the corner of Houston St. and Broadway.


It is The Cable Building (McKim, Mead and White - 1892), and it served as the power plant for the Metropolitan Cable car line on Broadway.


The Angelika Film Center entrace is on the Houston/Mercer St. corner.

July 4th, 2003, 01:20 PM
Name the neighborhood....


Hint: In the summer-time its still legal to *drive-through stop-lights, however things are changing with a sweeping revitalization plan.

(Edited by Stern at 1:21 pm on July 4, 2003)

July 4th, 2003, 01:27 PM

July 4th, 2003, 02:27 PM
Looks like the A train in Rockaway. I'll guess Arverne.

July 4th, 2003, 02:44 PM
Yeah, now that I think of it...

July 4th, 2003, 11:34 PM
One of the last lines in New York City.

Great job Zippy.

July 5th, 2003, 08:59 AM
Damn, I finally got one of these right.

Arverne was plotted in 1880's by Remington Vernam, and got its name from the way he signed - R Vernam.

Originally a fashionable resort area, it began to decline in the 1930's. First efforts to revitalize were post WWII, when the city announced plans to build housing for war veterans. Nothing happened. The summer bungalows were used year round and became firetraps. In 1964 the city designated 300 acres as an Urban Renewal Area. Nothing happened.

Forty years later, hopefully Arverne by the Sea.

July 6th, 2003, 08:38 AM
July 6, 2003

Know the City Inside Out? Try Up and Down


Maybe you spend a lot of time in Manhattan. Maybe you're pretty sure you know what it looks like: skyscrapers, grit, hot-dog carts, lots of sophisticates rushing to lots of important things.

Or maybe it doesn't look like that at all. Maybe New York is just a collection of shapes, colors, dots and still lifes that seem more likely to have sprung from the imagination of a graphic artist than from the jumbled history of city life.

Each of these photographs was shot in Manhattan. Or rather, over Manhattan. From a helicopter, on a recent afternoon.

These views are normally denied to all but pilots, winged creatures and National Security Agency satellite-map sleuths. A pigeon, aloft, may have a fuller sense of New York's native geometry than the city's populace has. It is a city of mass, color, pattern, perspective. From on high, landmarks are only vaguely familiar. From only 1,000 feet, much of Manhattan seems to be deserted.

Where, then, were these photographs taken?

Consider these hints.


First picture: The contemplative gentleman with his hands in his pockets in the charming emerald park seems wholly unaware of the traffic swirling beneath his shoes. Doubtless the drivers on the road below, gunning their accelerators, would find it inconceivable that a philosopher in a bosky alternative universe could be rooted only a few feet above their heads. If they are wondering anything, it must be why anyone thought an orange traffic cone could replace a piece of fence.


Second picture: It is safe to say that the urbanites who use the plaza next to this public building in Lower Manhattan have no idea that the purple, lime-green and forest-green park benches and plantings play a Mondrian riff from high above. They certainly are unaware that their all-too-ho-hum street lights resemble suction-cup darts on a gray slate board when they are studied from way up.


Third picture: It is difficult from this angle to spot the pre-Harry Potter owl that is cleverly formed into the beloved statue at the top of the image, as busloads of visitors have been enjoined to do. The formal red-paved squares of this plaza seem more akin to the Greeks' archaic temple decorations from Paestum than a variant of Malevich's "Red Square." And those weird vertical musical-staff lines for an as-yet-uncharted 10-tone scale are actually worn stone steps. They have provided studying, sunning and chatting space for generations of students.


Fourth picture: It must be said that this is a cross-sectional view of a pier. A river frames both top and bottom. Sun worshipers on the green lawn and strollers on the boardwalk are equally unaware that their new park resembles an architectural student's deconstructionist study for some new Sydney Opera House.

Answers to the Quiz (http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/nyregion/06SCAPANS.html)

Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company

July 6th, 2003, 12:02 PM
I think thats Zoe and seafeel in the left corner of the last picture ;)

July 6th, 2003, 12:26 PM
I know that the second pic is Jacob Javits Plaza in lowermanhattan. In the summer time the hills ejaculate steam.

July 6th, 2003, 05:58 PM
The third one's Columbia, in front of the library. *Easy one.

TLOZ Link5
July 6th, 2003, 07:07 PM
The top one is the park at Sutton Place overlooking the FDR Drive.

July 10th, 2003, 07:33 AM
It seems that NEW YORK magazine stole our idea of "Guess the Location" game ;)

Guess the building in the picture, and enter a drawing to win dinner for 2 at *New York Magazine (http://www.nymetro.com/location/).


TLOZ Link5
July 10th, 2003, 07:25 PM
Riverside Church?

July 10th, 2003, 07:36 PM
Cathedral of Commerce
aka. Woolworth (http://www.skyscrapers.com/re/en/im/df/136207/)

(Edited by Jasonik at 7:38 pm on July 10, 2003)

TLOZ Link5
July 10th, 2003, 09:55 PM
Yay, Jason got it right!

Now go write New York Magazine and win stuff!

July 10th, 2003, 10:53 PM
The contest ended today at noon, no free grub for me. *:(

TLOZ Link5
July 11th, 2003, 07:38 PM
Aaw :(

July 21st, 2003, 08:00 PM
Another chance to win dinner for two

Built in 1989 by one major bank, this downtown tower was sold to another in 2001. Can you identify it from this view of the public arcade? One correct answer wins dinner for two at Jean-Luc. (Photography by Sean Hemmerle.)


July 21st, 2003, 08:02 PM
Lobby of 60 Wall Street.

July 21st, 2003, 08:13 PM

July 22nd, 2003, 03:04 PM
Wouldn't even need to see the picture to figure that it was 60 Wall.

July 22nd, 2003, 04:40 PM
(Edited by jcs2034 at 4:44 pm on July 22, 2003)

July 22nd, 2003, 05:15 PM
Earl Hall at Columbia -- the traffic lights aren't out front, the pic is of the rear of the building...

July 22nd, 2003, 05:16 PM
Earl Hall, Columbia

July 22nd, 2003, 05:16 PM
Damn -- sorry, I missed the extra pages.

TLOZ Link5
July 22nd, 2003, 06:39 PM
Sold by JP Morgan to Deutsche Bank. *My sister already worked for DB in their space on 6th Avenue, but her department moved downtown quite recently.

July 23rd, 2003, 04:25 AM
Crap I know this. Went there. I think it's Earl Hall or St. Paul's at Columbia. It's definately Columbia. [i missed the extra pages too, nevermind]

(Edited by Noah at 4:25 am on July 23, 2003)

July 23rd, 2003, 09:25 AM
in a similar vein,
you can win a prize!

August 25th, 2003, 12:03 AM
Guess the location of this 1909 building. No prizes though.


August 25th, 2003, 12:14 AM
Upper Manhattan?

August 25th, 2003, 03:08 PM
I know this is a bit like cheating, but does that street sign on the lower right say "W21?" *That would put this building in Chelsea, or, judging by the empty lot next door, perhaps in the meatpacking district?

August 25th, 2003, 06:18 PM
Quote: from Eugenius on 3:08 pm on Aug. 25, 2003
... does that street sign on the lower right say "W21?"
No, that's not what the sign says.

August 27th, 2003, 09:40 AM
Would it be any help if I point out the smokestack of a factory to the left of the building?

Freedom Tower
August 27th, 2003, 12:15 PM
I'm stumped.

August 28th, 2003, 09:06 PM
Well, no winners in this round. The address of the building is 6 Hancock Pl, in Harlem. Follow the link to display the map of 6 Hancock Pl (http://www.maporama.com/share/Map.asp?MapID=83930761%2DE021%2D45C8%2DBC18%2D3B7D 20CB9411&PDT=mapomap).


August 28th, 2003, 09:11 PM
Gulcrapek did say "upper Manhattan".

August 28th, 2003, 09:47 PM
Do I get half a cookie?

September 16th, 2003, 09:24 AM
From http://www.nymetro.com/location/

The dark granite skin of this prominent corporation's headquarters has given the building a memorable nickname. Can you tell us where it is?

One correct answer, drawn at random, wins dinner for two at Hacienda de Argentina. No purchase necessary. (Photography by Sean Hemmerle.)

Open to U.S. residents 18 and over. Void where prohibited by law. See rules.


September 16th, 2003, 11:20 AM
51 West 52nd Street.


Jack Ryan
September 16th, 2003, 08:12 PM
No doubt about it. Saarinen's C.B.S. Building.

September 16th, 2003, 08:22 PM

My favorite of the minimalist type.

October 3rd, 2003, 01:09 PM
Where is this?


October 3rd, 2003, 03:21 PM
St Michaels's on W99?

October 7th, 2003, 10:40 AM
Nope, but it is a church.

TLOZ Link5
October 7th, 2003, 07:15 PM
Saint Ignatius of Loyola on Park Avenue?

October 7th, 2003, 08:01 PM
Church of Our Lady of Pompei at Carmine and Bleecker?

photograph by PETER CUNNINGHAM

October 8th, 2003, 11:19 AM



December 3rd, 2003, 03:42 PM
I've got one (maybe it's really easy).


TLOZ Link5
December 3rd, 2003, 03:52 PM
City Hall?

December 3rd, 2003, 04:09 PM

December 3rd, 2003, 04:24 PM
It almost looks like City Hall in Philly...

December 3rd, 2003, 04:27 PM
Is it in the Flat-Iron District?

December 3rd, 2003, 05:58 PM
Yes, technically. Getting warmer.

December 4th, 2003, 05:02 PM
Is that down on Grand Street, getting close to Chinatown?

I think I recognise it.....

December 4th, 2003, 05:27 PM
afraid not... Like I said, Stern is getting warmer. It's technically in the Flatiron district. Here's another clue: It faces an avenue, not a sidestreet or park.

TLOZ Link5
December 4th, 2003, 06:06 PM
170 Fifth Avenue?



December 4th, 2003, 07:29 PM
No, it's not as tall. Maybe 6-8 stories. It takes up the whole block-front.

December 4th, 2003, 07:36 PM
I know I've seen this building.

You say its on an Avenue, but for some reason Im remembering Broadway. Maybe it wasnt but Im pretty sure its south of the FlatIron Building.

And Im also remembeing something about a Crate and Barrel...

Any of this right?

December 4th, 2003, 08:16 PM
No, it's on an avenue. The flatiron district, for our purposes, is the area bordered by 14th St. on the south,24th St. on the north, Ave. of the Americas on the west, and Park Ave on the east.

December 5th, 2003, 01:30 PM
Fifth & 22nd - southwest corner. Flatiron is visible on right in pictire.

December 5th, 2003, 02:52 PM
That's not the building, that's TLOZ's guess.

Jack Ryan
December 6th, 2003, 10:27 PM
Is it on Sixth Ave and about 15th Street?

December 7th, 2003, 02:30 AM
616-632 Sixth Avenue between W18th and W19th Streets, originally the Siegel-Cooper Dry Goods Store, built in 1897 and designed by DeLemos & Cordes.

December 7th, 2003, 10:01 AM
Good call Merry!

On the edge of Ladies Mile Historic District (http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/lpc/pdfs/historic/ladies_mile.pdf).

Siegel Cooper Dry Goods Store (http://newyorkinphotos.com/cgi-bin/thumbs/thumb_dyn.cgi?path=/photos/architecture/buildings/old_siegel_cooper&name=616_Sixth_Avenue).

Hugh O'Neill Dry Goods Store (http://newyorkinphotos.com/cgi-bin/thumbs/thumb_dyn.cgi?path=/photos/architecture/buildings/hugh_oneil&name=655-671_Sixth_Avenue).

Adams Dry Goods Store (http://newyorkinphotos.com/cgi-bin/thumbs/thumb_dyn.cgi?path=/photos/architecture/buildings/6th_av_675&name=675_Sixth_Avenue).

December 7th, 2003, 01:27 PM


December 7th, 2003, 01:28 PM
So would you consider The Ladies' Mile part of the Flatiron district?

December 7th, 2003, 01:43 PM
Yep. I didn't know it's name until I searched Fashion Row. I thought it might be one of the 6 Ave buildings, but the tower threw me. I never noticed it was so prominent

December 7th, 2003, 03:22 PM
merry, how did you know that, all the way from Perth?

December 10th, 2003, 04:13 AM
merry, how did you know that, all the way from Perth?

The next best thing to being there, my fantastic NYC book collection. So I guess I didn't really "know", I just looked it up...is that allowed?

December 30th, 2003, 09:22 PM


December 30th, 2003, 11:46 PM
You always give tough ones... Is it a waterfront structure?

December 31st, 2003, 10:06 AM
No. I will give a big hint that it isnt necerssarily in Manhattan.

December 31st, 2003, 10:07 AM
You always give tough ones... Is it a waterfront structure?

Actually it is. But probably not the type of waterfront you would commonly think of.

December 31st, 2003, 10:34 AM
Dammit! More architectural torture.

Not necessarily in Manhattan What does that mean?
Maybe an island.

December 31st, 2003, 11:23 AM
Randolph Island?

December 31st, 2003, 11:43 AM

December 31st, 2003, 02:36 PM

December 31st, 2003, 02:56 PM

December 31st, 2003, 03:04 PM
Is it an island of presidential stature?

December 31st, 2003, 03:16 PM
The building is not located on an island.

December 31st, 2003, 05:35 PM

December 31st, 2003, 08:08 PM
Even if it were in the Bronx, its not, you would not win. The building isnt even in AIA Guide to NYC so Ill just accept the neighborhood.

December 31st, 2003, 08:43 PM
There's no other part of NYC not on an island.

December 31st, 2003, 11:51 PM
Alright the borough is not an island.

January 1st, 2004, 09:34 AM
These clues really suck!

January 1st, 2004, 11:05 AM
Obviously it is too difficult. So, this building is in the same neighborhood as Shea Stadium...

January 1st, 2004, 01:06 PM
I've seen it from the Van Wyck I think...

January 1st, 2004, 10:03 PM
As a matter of fact it is by the entrance, and is highly visible from the Grand Central, Northern Boulevard, and anywhere's in Flushing.

January 16th, 2004, 01:12 AM
Every week New York Magazine (http://www.nymetro.com/) has a contest/lottery named "Location, location, location", where they present a photo, and people who correctly guess the location enter a drawing with prizes such as dinner for two. I find it a lot of fun, especially since I already have won this contest twice. :D

Anyway, the contest is at nymetro (http://www.nymetro.com/location/), and here is the picture for the current question. I think I know the answer to this one, what is your guess? Since this contest is already closed - they run it from Monday to Thursday, with the results revealed next Monday - I am sure New York Magazine would not mind if we solve the puzzle.


January 16th, 2004, 03:59 PM
Broad Channel?

January 16th, 2004, 04:06 PM
City Island

January 27th, 2004, 09:35 AM
That's right, City Island, City Island Avenue

February 8th, 2004, 02:00 PM
lostnyc posts:

Okay, here's a challenge for those of you who were doing that mystery location theme.
The photo is from about 1975 and I never noted down the exact location and only remember approximately where this was. Only hint I will give here is it was on the East side of Manhattan and the view is looking towards this hotel which was on the South West corner of this intersection.

Neither street lamp has a sign on them, go figure! so the only other good clue is the newer white building next to it, the sign on it is not readable beyond the letter "C" logo. Another possible clue is the taller building next to that one which is now heading closer to something around Lexington Ave.

See what you can come up with on this for location!


Curious now what is on that corner!

February 8th, 2004, 02:10 PM
Thanks Stern, I didn't notice an official thread.

Here is a photo of a 32 story building that was demolished around summer of 1975, I never got the address though I know the street and have never seen any other photos of this building.

The photo is slightly confusing, don't mistake the much taller tower directly behind this building for being part of it. The building directly behind to the right of the crane was the rear part of this 32 story building and about 2 floors were gone when this photo was taken. On the extreme right is the another part of this same building, it was sort of H shaped and the lighted area between both sections was an air/light shaft area.

Hard to remember, but there might have been two buildings here, I took a couple of other photos but they turned out so poorly due to the shadows and glare and probably the time of day.

This is what I do remember;

The facade around the 3rd floor of one of these buildings had four larger than life sized carved granite caryatids, each had a theme and dress following that theme, they were all labelled with carved lettering per;

Asia, Africa, Europe, America

The America one resembled the Statue of Liberty or Columbia with a torch.

Either over the doorway or over a large window on an adjacent building there was a HUGE lion head keystone made of carved stone that was about the size of a refrigerator.

Any clues as to the actual addresses, or any photos of these buildings around that anyone knows of?

I have seen the photos from the 1930's by B. Abbott but I can't seem to pick out this particular building and the photos are not quite inclusive enough of the area to get a good overall perspective in context.


TLOZ Link5
February 8th, 2004, 10:00 PM
What building is on that site now?

February 8th, 2004, 11:34 PM
What building is on that site now?

Wish I knew, I remember reading back then that this 32 story building was demolished for a parking lot but I doubt that was the ultimate purpose for the land.

TLOZ Link5
February 9th, 2004, 01:09 AM
Maybe 60 Wall Street?

February 11th, 2004, 05:14 AM
Was it the former 60 Wall Street office building (27-stories) that originally had an overhead connecting bridge going to the AIG (70 Pine) Building (the tall building in the rear of the photo) giving the AIG building a Wall Street address (60 Wall)? According to the AIA Guide, this space was "...for almost a decade, most notable as a sprawling asphalt-paved pedestrian space, not a parking field." The address was 60 Wall between William and Nassau Streets, north side through to Pine Street. It was built in 1905 and designed by Clinton & Russell.

February 11th, 2004, 01:36 PM
Was it the former 60 Wall Street office building (27-stories) that originally had an overhead connecting bridge going to the AIG (70 Pine) Building (the tall building in the rear of the photo) giving the AIG building a Wall Street address (60 Wall)? According to the AIA Guide, this space was "...for almost a decade, most notable as a sprawling asphalt-paved pedestrian space, not a parking field." The address was 60 Wall between William and Nassau Streets, north side through to Pine Street. It was built in 1905 and designed by Clinton & Russell.

You are right about the Street being Wall Street, and that tall tower I believe is 60 Wall Street and now that you mention it, I THINK I may remember a pedestrian bridge connecting the demolished building with another one a block North (Pine?) If so, then there would be a "scar" in the remaining building's facade where that bridge connected.

Do you know any pointers to more info? I'd like to update the page I have with it's photo.

TLOZ Link5
February 11th, 2004, 02:17 PM
There's one other possibility as to the identity of the building being demolished: the National City Bank Building at 52 Wall Street. Thirty-two stories, built in 1928; skyscrapers.com doesn't give a date for its demolition, though. Sixty Wall was torn down in 1977.

February 11th, 2004, 03:11 PM
TLOZ I would go with your first guess. 52 Wall Street was torn down in the early fifties to allow for the plaza and inturn for the slab at One Chase Manhattan Plaza.

February 11th, 2004, 03:24 PM
Here's one:


TLOZ Link5
February 11th, 2004, 04:17 PM
The Lincoln Building?



February 11th, 2004, 04:18 PM

February 12th, 2004, 05:10 AM
You are right about the Street being Wall Street, and that tall tower I believe is 60 Wall Street and now that you mention it, I THINK I may remember a pedestrian bridge connecting the demolished building with another one a block North (Pine?) If so, then there would be a "scar" in the remaining building's facade where that bridge connected.

Do you know any pointers to more info? I'd like to update the page I have with it's photo.

On further investigation I found a picture of 60 Wall which clearly shows the 4 caryatids (in the book Rise of the New York Skyscraper 1865-1913 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0300064446/qid=1076579889/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-5763858-9656937?v=glance&s=books), Sarah Bradford Landau and Carol W. Condit). The detailing at the top of the building directly to the right of the crane in your photo looks the same as the lower part of 60 Wall in the book. This section of the building was 14 stories located on Wall and the higher section behind it was 26 stories located on Pine.

60 Wall Street is now home to the J.P. Morgan Building, 47 floors, designed by Kevin Roche, John Dinkeloo & Associates in 1988.

March 4th, 2004, 11:48 AM
Reviving the game - this one is probably obvious, but......


March 4th, 2004, 12:21 PM
The lunatic is in my head.


TLOZ Link5
March 4th, 2004, 12:46 PM
Belvedere Castle, in Central Park?

March 4th, 2004, 12:53 PM
I don't remember bricked-up windows in Belvedere Castle...
The Cloisters?

March 4th, 2004, 04:02 PM
Riverside Park?

March 4th, 2004, 04:17 PM
Keep going.

The lunatic is in my head.


March 4th, 2004, 04:39 PM
If it is is manhattan then I think is the Belvedere Castle in Central Park. :wink:

March 4th, 2004, 05:08 PM
...or maybe is the Fonthill Castle in the Bronx? Used by the College of Mount Saint Vincent.

March 4th, 2004, 05:13 PM
I saw this somewhere a few days ago... can I tell? It's kind of cheating.

March 4th, 2004, 05:22 PM
The lunatic is in my head.
It's a clue, not my mental state...well, both.

March 5th, 2004, 09:45 AM
Go ahead tell. Zippy had it right from the start.

March 5th, 2004, 10:55 AM
The lunatic is in my head.
It's a clue, not my mental state...well, both.

Pink Floyd...

You raise the blade
You make the change
You rearrange me 'till I'm sane
You lock the door
And throw away the key
And there's someone in my head, but it's not me
And if the cloud bursts thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon

Dark Side of The Moon. Something to do w/ moon. The old Moon Pie factory?

Maybe I'll run into it when I get there. :roll:

March 5th, 2004, 01:49 PM
Pie Factory?

There might be a connection, since it's customers were transported in vehicles nicknamed "Cookie Wagons" and "Ice Cream Trucks."

It's the Blackwell Island Lunatic Asylum (http://pweb.jps.net/~arcon/asylum.htm), named before political correctness.

In the late 60s, NY State UDC began to build a residential community on the island, and its name was changed to Roosevelt Island.

A Harpers Magazine (http://nyc10044.com/timeln/asylum/lunatic.html) article from 1866.

A good one, NYatKnight.

March 5th, 2004, 04:04 PM
You were all over it, thanks for letting the game continue for a while......and GREAT links.



March 8th, 2004, 10:48 AM
What is it?

March 8th, 2004, 02:49 PM
Is it on Broadway?

March 8th, 2004, 02:58 PM
Original Equitable Building?

March 8th, 2004, 03:06 PM
Yes, it is on Broadway. Not the Equitable.

March 8th, 2004, 03:22 PM
I know it, but I forget the name and the exact cross-street. I'll get back to you shortly...

March 8th, 2004, 03:56 PM
Forget it, I'l never find it online. It's an old cast-iron department store somewhere around the lady's mile area.

March 8th, 2004, 04:11 PM
It's cast-iron, and it's close to the Ladies' Mile District, but it was never a department store.

March 9th, 2004, 01:52 PM
Original Lord & Taylor Building on SouthWest corner of Broadway and 21st?

March 9th, 2004, 02:27 PM
No. It's further north, and has a historical connection to the telephone.

March 10th, 2004, 04:11 AM
Gilsey House, 1200 Broadway at W29th Street; architect Stephen Decatur Hatch, 1869-71.

March 10th, 2004, 08:54 AM
Merry hits again. This is getting embarrassing.


In 1868. Peter Gilsey purchased the last homestead in midtown from Caspar Samlar, and built a hotel. The cast iron was supplied by Architectural Ironworks.

The Gilsey House was the first hotel in New York City to offer telephone service. Many notables stayed at the hotel, including Samuel Clemens, who stayed there before his trip to Europe.

In 1900 there was a championship boxing match at MSG between Gentleman Jim Corbett, who won the title from John L Sullivan, and Norman Kid McCoy, for whom the phrase the Real McCoy was coined. Two years before, Corbett was having lunch at the Gilsey House, when McCoy came into the hotel. A fistfight followed, and Corbett was kicked in the groin. At the title fight, Corbett knocked out McCoy, I presume with a punch.

The Gilsey House has been converted to private residences. A good photo from Building Conservation Associates here (http://www.bcausa.com/projects/cast_gil.html).

More photos (http://www.pbase.com/zippythechimp/gilsey_house)

March 10th, 2004, 10:15 AM
Of course! Totally spaced on that one. Good job Merry, now you get to go. :wink:

March 11th, 2004, 05:34 AM
This is deviating from the theme a bit because I don't know what this building is myself, but I really like the ornamentation, so does anyone recognise it? I'll kick myself if it's something well-known.


March 18th, 2004, 09:08 AM
Guess the building.

March 18th, 2004, 02:24 PM
Is it that courthouse bordering Madison Park? I think it is East 25th Street & Madison Ave.

March 18th, 2004, 04:52 PM
I was going to say something obviously in front of the Merchandise Mart... so it's probably what he said.

March 18th, 2004, 05:01 PM
That's it, the Manhattan Appellate Courthouse.

March 18th, 2004, 05:07 PM
That's it. The Manhattan Appellate Court House (http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/dcas/html/building/man_appellatecourt.html).

The building, and the addition built in 1954 have been undergoing a renovation. The Statue of Justice at the entrance was sculpted by Daniel Chester French, who 30 years later did the statue of Lincoln at the Lincoln Memorial.

The addition has a Holocaust Memorial. The carving is the site plan of Auschwitz, modelled from a WWII reconnaissance photo. The inscription,
Indifference to Injustice is the Gate to Hell.

August 12th, 2004, 10:31 PM
Guess the location:


August 13th, 2004, 09:33 AM
The Sacred Heart Church next to & behind Cathedral of St. John the Divine?

August 13th, 2004, 02:25 PM
The Sacred Heart Church next to & behind Cathedral of St. John the Divine?

Nope. Its not a church.

This is a tough one so Ill give the first clue:


August 13th, 2004, 03:34 PM
I know this one. I happened to be there recently.

August 13th, 2004, 03:39 PM
I seen it too. But I dont remember what it is. Is it in brooklyn?

August 13th, 2004, 05:03 PM
I know this one. I happened to be there recently.

I know Zippy, and people that's another hint. Use it.

August 13th, 2004, 05:48 PM
Isn't it in a cemetery?

August 14th, 2004, 10:27 AM
Isn't it in a cemetery?


August 14th, 2004, 11:47 AM
I know where it is now... Is in one of the world's most beautiful cemeteries. I won't said wich one yet but is the one that was founded in 1838. Right?

August 14th, 2004, 12:03 PM
I know where it is now... Is in one of the world's most beautiful cemeteries. I won't said wich one yet but is the one that was founded in 1838. Right?

No. This cemetery opened in 1863. As far as cemeteries go this is one of the most beautiful and has also been in the news recently.

On that note I'll give another picture clue:


August 14th, 2004, 12:36 PM
Harry's nearby current digs are a lot uglier than this beauty -- the Woodlawn Cemetery mausoleum of Herman Ossian Armour, meatpacker and inventor (1837-1901). James Renwick, arch.


August 14th, 2004, 12:48 PM
Yeah you got it! It is the the Woodlawn Cemetery in the Bronx.

August 14th, 2004, 01:00 PM
Harry's nearby current digs are a lot uglier than this beauty -- the Woodlawn Cemetery mausoleum of Herman Ossian Armour, meatpacker and inventor (1837-1901). James Renwick, arch.

You got it!


Enjoy your pork brains! yum.

August 18th, 2004, 01:46 PM
Guess where I took this pic at?


August 19th, 2004, 08:05 AM
Your yard.

You were digging a hole and had the utility map upside down.

August 19th, 2004, 01:40 PM
Nope. This one is very easy. I think that you defenetly have been there and most of the members on these forums.

Clue: There are people there all the time.

August 19th, 2004, 06:38 PM
The fountain at Washington Square Park?

August 19th, 2004, 06:53 PM
Columbus Park Brooklyn

August 19th, 2004, 06:56 PM
Nope. But it is closer than you think. Not in Brooklyn.

Clue: Yes it is a fountain. But where?

August 19th, 2004, 08:49 PM
OT, but that one building in brooklyn w/ the crane on it. Looks pretty tall to be in BK, whats in it? Fianancial? Law?

August 19th, 2004, 08:59 PM
Federal Courthouse Eastern District. 14 floors, 200something ft. Something like a year and a half behind schedule.

August 19th, 2004, 09:28 PM
So it's not your yard? I thought you were a squatter in Madison Square.

August 19th, 2004, 11:53 PM
Bingo! ZippyTheChimp!

Fountain at Madison Square Park:


April 20th, 2005, 08:08 AM
Guess the building.

April 20th, 2005, 11:17 AM
Brooklyn Historical Society (orig. Long Island Historical Society) George B. Post, architect, 1881.

April 20th, 2005, 11:28 AM
Are you sure? ;)

I don't know the answer but that sounds pretty convincing.

Glad you revived this thread Zippy, it's been a while.

April 20th, 2005, 12:43 PM
Criminy! That was speedy. Nice ID Manhattan Knight.


128 Pierrepont St, Brooklyn Heights. Underwent an extensive 4 year renovation, and it looks great. Queen Ann, red brick and unglazed terra cotta.

Architect Georg B Post was a pioneer in the use of steel truss supports to create open interiors. The building's central library was constructed in this manner, and 20 years later, Post used it in his design of the New York Stock Exchange.

The building is a national historic landmark. Parts of the interior, including the library, are NYC interior landmarks.

Brooklyn Historical Society (http://www.brooklynhistory.org/indexWeb.html)

April 20th, 2005, 06:39 PM
This gem was Post's dress rehearsal, of sorts, for his contemporaneous Produce Exchange.

April 20th, 2005, 07:32 PM
Le Puck!

April 24th, 2005, 10:11 PM
Guess the building.

April 24th, 2005, 10:17 PM
Post office?

April 25th, 2005, 06:20 PM
Note to self: Tighter cropping

That's it. GPO in Brooklyn undergoing renovation for adaptive reuse. Exterior is complete, and scaffolding coming down.

NYC landmark
National register of Historic Places.



Wired New York Website (http://www.wirednewyork.com/brooklyn/federal_courthouse/default.htm)

April 28th, 2005, 05:42 PM
Been wanting to post this for awhile...any guesses?


April 28th, 2005, 07:21 PM
Abandoned building on Houston Street?

April 28th, 2005, 08:56 PM
Is it in the South Bronx?

April 28th, 2005, 09:05 PM
I am guessing somewhere within 5 miles of the 3rd Avenue station (6 train) in the Bronx, or somewhere in Queens, probably Astoria, Jackson Heights or Forest Hills....

April 29th, 2005, 01:13 PM
No one is close so far. Here is another shot..


April 29th, 2005, 01:44 PM
It looks like where Spiderman and the Green Goblin duked it out.

April 29th, 2005, 01:55 PM
Smallpox Hospital, Roosevelt Island.

April 29th, 2005, 02:27 PM
That's it. I sort of got inside by mistake...


April 29th, 2005, 03:01 PM
Ok, this is a very bad pic, but it should be easy enough for you guys to guess. I took it yesterday.


April 29th, 2005, 03:42 PM
Hamilton Grange (National Monument).

April 29th, 2005, 08:29 PM
Some sort of small cottage museum in the upper east side, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, avenue?

April 29th, 2005, 11:31 PM
ManhattanKnight you got that in less than 45mins :)

It's located on Convent Ave. off 141st. It's one of NY's greatest residents "country" home.

June 3rd, 2005, 10:14 AM
How about an interior?


TLOZ Link5
June 3rd, 2005, 05:30 PM
How about an interior?


I'm thinking a Japanese food store on St. Mark's Place...am I close?