WTC Tower One - by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (formerly "Freedom Tower")

[lofter1]

Zen, thanks for those. It will be quite a show when they go in.

Looks like the corners are close to ready to receive them ...

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[ZenSteelDude]

When, probably first quarter next year. Where, the four corners of the tower, after the next lift. they are roughly centered on the 20th floor, they are on the 5th floor now

PS: there are no floors 7 through 19.

Great shots Lofter, nice closeups too.

The south east corner (4th pic in Lofters post) is one lift away from corner nodes.

[DarrylStrawberry]

Fantastic pictures Lofter. As usual, thank you very much.

[lofter1]

Great spot to view the rising tower: From the deck at the new BPC Ice Rink (http://www.ny400.org/features/ice-world-ice-rink-nyc), just north of the GS HQ.

[westmc9th]

When, probably first quarter next year. Where, the four corners of the tower, after the next lift. they are roughly centered on the 20th floor, they are on the 5th floor now

PS: there are no floors 7 through 19.

Great shots Lofter, nice closeups too.

The south east corner (4th pic in Lofters post) is one lift away from corner nodes.

thanks how tall are these pieces exactly?

[ZenSteelDude]

They are a total of 90 feet tall, but it looks like they well be put in in two parts, one 60' and one 30'.

[lofter1]

That ^ makes more sense. One full length 90' piece going up would be quite the feat.

Zen: Will the 60' pieces be slotted in to the beams below?

[Daquan13]

This tower looks like it'll be using more steel than the other three! But I could be wrong.

[westmc9th]

They are a total of 90 feet tall, but it looks like they well be put in in two parts, one 60' and one 30'.

These sound to be intense when do you say the firt one may be intalled, at least by January, right?

Work done today

* New steel on the North, east, and south side, wheter it be floor steel or what not
* More path roof is gone!

[ZenSteelDude]

That ^ makes more sense. One full length 90' piece going up would be quite the feat.

Zen: Will the 60' pieces be slotted in to the beams below?

Looks like they well sit on six inch thick spreader plates very similar to the column splice at the 3rd floor branching. (They have ten inch thick spreader plates)

We might see the first one go up by late January, IF Mother Nature cooperates.

[HoveringCheesecake]

Looks like they well sit on six inch thick spreader plates very similar to the column splice at the 3rd floor branching. (They have ten inch thick spreader plates)

We might see the first one go up by late January, IF Mother Nature cooperates.

How do you think the tower is looking so far? Do they appear to be on track to meet their deadlines? If things keep up I'm guessing we might be finishing the 6th floor by Christmas? Or am I looking at these plans wrong...? The numbering of the mechanical floors is a mess. Any chance you could post the plans with the labels or label them on a picture?

[ZenSteelDude]

Something like this ?

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I believe they are on schedule. But for me the big unanswered question is how high can they go without core cement encasing the erecting steel.

[ZenSteelDude]

OK, after doing some rough calculations with an assumed unbraced hight of 13' 4" and a guessed stress load of the 2 tower cranes I came up with a hight of between 130' and 150' for the erection steel.

In other words, they might actually be able to go all the way to the 20th floor with steel before the core jumps.

[westmc9th]

:mad::eek:HD CAM IS FROZEN again grrrr! so dont know if anything big happened today! Does anyone know????

[HoveringCheesecake]

They look to be pouring the south core. There's a pump truck with the hose leading up towards the core and the forms are raised.

Thanks for the diagram, Zen. It is the mezzanines that are throwing me off.

[ZenSteelDude]

Glad to help.:)

[DKNY617]

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[RoldanTTLB]

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Thank goodness man. I was afraid everyone on the board had swallowed their cameras or something. If I weren't in DC for the next 6 months, I swear I would have had photos ages ago. In any event, thank you!

[DKNY617]

Your Welcome

[Derek2k3]

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11/28/09

[TonyO]

There is a good rendering of One World Trade Center in today's Wall St. Journal. I can't find it online, maybe someone who has online access can locate it. It's a double page Nucor steel advertisement on A14-A15.

[Daquan13]

I looked online also, and couldn't find it either.

I think that the trick there is they want you to pay for a subscroption first because in seems that most of todays news articles there are started but never finished.

At the bottom of each article, it says' "To continue reading, click here to subscribe" or something to that effect. :mad:

[lofter1]

Ads like that often aren't found in the online version of news publication.

A google search for Nucor Steel doesn't find it, either. :mad:

[Daquan13]

Then we're stuck and can't fond it at all.

I wonder if I Googled the Freedom Tower directly, would it show up on one of the Images Of pages? :confused:

[Daquan13]

Couldn't find any newer pics of the Freedom Tower. but I found THESE three posted there by some sicko prankster.

The 3rd one is with a giant statue of Michael Jackson evoking the Freedom Tower and having laser vision! What a shame this is to poke fun at him now that he's no longer with us!

[DMAG]

Couldn't find any newer pics of the Freedom Tower. but I found THESE three posted there by some sicko prankster.

The 3rd one is with a giant statue of Michael Jackson evoking the Freedom Tower and having laser vision! What a shame this is to poke fun at him now that he's no longer with us!

I'd say all 3 pictures are not worth reposting here.

[GreenwichBoy]

12/05/09 work cut short today rain/snow.

[HoveringCheesecake]

Zen pointed this out:

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[lofter1]

12.02.2009: Men at work ...

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[RKOwens4]

Cool pics! The worker in that 5th to last one is nuts.

[lofter1]

Shortcut :cool:

But he's tethered.

[ZenSteelDude]

HoveringCheesecake what is your screen name on SSP, just wondering.

Yea, that looks like an ohshit to me. They well fix it sooner or later.

Oh God Lofter that is such hot steel porn I can barely keep myself from taking my wife right here and now !!! You are not helping GB, it's all I can do to not take her right here and now in the family room.

[HoveringCheesecake]

HoveringCheesecake what is your screen name on SSP, just wondering.

Yea, that looks like an ohshit to me. They well fix it sooner or later.

Oh God Lofter that is such hot steel porn I can barely keep myself from taking my wife right here and now !!! You are not helping GB, it's all I can do to not take her right here and now in the family room.

I'm not stalking you, I promise! ;)

It's meh_cd, but I had it changed here because I rarely use that username anywhere else. I use this one for flickr, here, and a few other websites.

\/\/\/\/ I was wondering the same thing. \/\/\/\/

[RoldanTTLB]

HoveringCheesecake what is your screen name on SSP, just wondering.

Yea, that looks like an ohshit to me. They well fix it sooner or later.

Oh God Lofter that is such hot steel porn I can barely keep myself from taking my wife right here and now !!! You are not helping GB, it's all I can do to not take her right here and now in the family room.

Speaking of steel porn, what's the extra light gray vertical in those pics? Are those coming for every corner, or is there something unique about this corner?

[ZenSteelDude]

That vertical piece you refer to is unique to the east and west sides. Don't ask me why cause I have no idea.

[ZenSteelDude]

I'm not stalking you, I promise! ;)

It's meh_cd, but I had it changed here because I rarely use that username anywhere else. I use this one for flickr, here, and a few other websites.

\/\/\/\/ I was wondering the same thing. \/\/\/\/


Oh man, I was so hoping that I had a stalker! My wife is never gona let me here the end of this !

[Nomadd]

Oh man, I was so hoping that I had a stalker! My wife is never gona let me here the end of this !

I could send you 27 fan mail messages a day and say things like "I think Annie Wilkes was just misunderstood" if it would help.

[Daquan13]

Likewise.

Great pics! Great money in that kind of work, but I wouldn't want that job! :eek:

[Deez]

they may have to adjust that EarthCam in a couple of months...won't be able to see anymore vertical progress from that angle soon...

[ZenSteelDude]

There is an article in today's Star-Ledger about the company doing the steel fabrication for Tower One and part of Tower Four and the Transit hub.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/12/south_plainfield_steel_plant_f.html

They also make the booms and tower sections for the tower cranes.

They are also making the Subway shop ! (end of the article)

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[yepole]

^ Great update!!
Was away for almost a week, glad to see some progress on the last floor!

I notice concrete pouring activity is going on, despite stormy weather - trucks and machinery on Fulton next to the tower's south wall!

[Sherpa]

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[lofter1]

Must be nasty working out there today, what with the frigid wind knocking things around.

[Daquan13]

And it's going to get even colder tonight for the weekend! Or is that tomorrow night?

In DK's 2nd pic posted above, what is that building u/c over to the right behind the DBB tower that has most of its facade installed? :confused:

[lofter1]

123 Washington Street (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5526) - W New York Downtown - by Gwathmey-Siegel & Associates

[Daquan13]

Thank you.

[GreenwichBoy]

Now back to business! No more useless posts.......

[Daquan13]

Looks like the temporary stairs have been removed and the 1st set of construction elevators have been set up and is operable! Or was it there all along? :)

[uakoops]

Looks like the temporary stairs have been removed and the 1st set of construction elevators have been set up and is operable! Or was it there all along? :)
There is a stair on the East side, and it looks like they are setting one up on the West side too. There is an elevator on the South side, they put it up about 2 weeks ago.

[yepole]

Pretty sight!
Two boom lifts are now on the upper floor south side, supposedly getting ready for south core jump, once steel arrives!

[lofter1]

Wow. 2/3 of the base now looks to be complete. Great progress. Hopefully this (along with work at 4WTC and the near completion of the deck for the Memorial) will mean the end of anyone claiming that the WTC is hole where nothing has happened.

It was previously noted that there are two vertical grey steel columns on both the east and west facades near the corners, but with no explanation (all four can be seen in GB's photo from earlier this AM). If anyone knows the purpose of those steel attachments please post.

[ZenSteelDude]

Took a little digging but I found it. It's an 8 inch square tube with a plate welded to it to support a glass baffle. Part of the air plenum around the base.

[lofter1]

Aha, Thanks.

That glass baffle (http://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?p=7300) must be for the 200' square glass-enclosed aquarium feature at the base, eh?

[yepole]

Sad to observe, but there have been no new steel delivered to the tower for the last week or so...
Everything seems to be in place for days and ready for the height jump, but... :-\

[ZippyTheChimp]

Core?

[yepole]

They've been pouring it on 9th and 10th; I know it's a lot of work being done that is hidden from the EarthCam view, just really hungry for new vertical steel! :-)

One thing I have been wondering about for a while - on the pictures of the east side of the tower I can see at least 4 horizontal perimeter beams which are not secured in place but rather put aside - are they waiting for some large equipment to be placed behind them on those floors and only then planning to 'close' it?

[ZenSteelDude]

Aha, Thanks.

That glass baffle (http://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?p=7300) must be for the 200' square glass-enclosed aquarium feature at the base, eh?


LOL, the concept is the same but with air and huge.

[ZenSteelDude]

One thing I have been wondering about for a while - on the pictures of the east side of the tower I can see at least 4 horizontal perimeter beams which are not secured in place but rather put aside - are they waiting for some large equipment to be placed behind them on those floors and only then planning to 'close' it?

That would be my guess. Another possibility is they were left out for construction elevators.

[GreenwichBoy]

Something new from our friends at the Port Authority.


http://www.youtube.com/wtcprogress

[lofter1]

Excellent tour ^

[ZenSteelDude]

Wish y'all could see that video through my eyes.

Lofter, here is the baffleing baffle on the prints. Labled Arch'L Baffle.

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[ZenSteelDude]

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[NoyokA]

Any word on when we should start to see glass?

[ZenSteelDude]

Spring, at the earliest. They still have the blast walls to put in and ya really don't want to hang glass with all those cranes and what not about the base.

PS: The blast walls support the glass below the 3rd floor.

[NoyokA]

When will we start to see the blast walls?

[ZenSteelDude]

Any day now I should think, 6 weeks tops. Just as soon as all the ground floor is finished and they can erect the forms and rebar. In fact I am suprised they have not started yet.

[NoyokA]

Thanks Zen. Youre a wealth of knowledge!

[ZenSteelDude]

Now tell my wife !!!!:)

[antinimby]

One day in the very, very, very distant future, when there is no longer a threat of terrorism (you're all probably saying, "yeah, right like that's gonna happen"), will they be able to remove the "blast wall" as you guys call it, and then make the base open again?

[kz1000ps]

I think you could eliminate all conflicts in the world and they'd still leave it up.

[BStyles]

Well then if they took down the blast walls in the future, nothing would hold up the lobby glass so I guess not. The original towers thankfully never had this problem because of the superblock. One good aspect.

Hey, they're installing the subway sandwich shop right now! The north crane is picking it upp off of a flatbed truck nearby.

[uakoops]

Well then if they took down the blast walls in the future, nothing would hold up the lobby glass so I guess not. The original towers thankfully never had this problem because of the superblock. One good aspect.

Hey, they're installing the subway sandwich shop right now! The north crane is picking it upp off of a flatbed truck nearby.

I don't see the Subway. but I do see a new climbing form frame in the South core......
Also looks like a big concrete pour on the North side.

[yepole]

I was just wondering what it was, climbing up from the inside of the tower! :o
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3528/animation1cl.gif
What is that thing used for?

[BStyles]

I don't see the Subway. but I do see a new climbing form frame in the South core......
Also looks like a big concrete pour on the North side.
No, they just hoisted it off of the truck. The platform comming up now is the platform it's going to sit in. once it's ready the north crane will pick it up again and put it inside. $5 Footlongs for everybody.

[HoveringCheesecake]

Zen, a while back you posted a schematic of the observation deck. Any chance we can get that in higher resolution? I'm interested in that and the skylobby.

That brings me to a question about the skylobby. Is it two floors on one side and a single floor on the other? Some of the renders/plans lead me to believe that it is one double floor on the south side and two floors in the north. Is this the case?

[GreenwichBoy]

12/17/09

[yepole]

^ Great update, as always!
* They kept pouring north core in two boom arms, and apparently four concrete trucks at a time, all day non-stop!!
* More floor steel is in place on the west side top elevation.

[ZenSteelDude]

One day in the very, very, very distant future, when there is no longer a threat of terrorism (you're all probably saying, "yeah, right like that's gonna happen"), will they be able to remove the "blast wall" as you guys call it, and then make the base open again?

I see no technical reason why this could not be done. Just put up a glass curtain wall in there place.

PS: They are called "Protection walls" on the prints.

[ZenSteelDude]

Zen, a while back you posted a schematic of the observation deck. Any chance we can get that in higher resolution? I'm interested in that and the skylobby.

That brings me to a question about the skylobby. Is it two floors on one side and a single floor on the other? Some of the renders/plans lead me to believe that it is one double floor on the south side and two floors in the north. Is this the case?

I'll se what I can do.

The rendering is backwards, the floor opening is on the north side.

[HoveringCheesecake]

I'll se what I can do.

The rendering is backwards, the floor opening is on the north side.

Thanks, as always.

But holey moley the north side? I thought it made sense to have it on the south side, but the north? Is there any reason for it?

[Sal Schiano]

There still pouring on the south side of the tower, must be a massive pour. Im just guessing here, but anytime soon both 16000 and 18000 will be removed from the site?

[BStyles]

Not until the base is done and all of the tower cranes' loads are under their lifting capacity.

[yepole]

Another climbing form frame showing up!
Are they going to install similar ones into three remaining openings in the core?
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[lofter1]

And the $5 Foot Long awaits at the right :D

[BStyles]

Another climbing form frame showing up!
Are they going to install similar ones into three remaining openings in the core?
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1586/84601165.jpg
As the concrete core rises, but not the steel one. It's left open for the cranes and other construction purposes.

The south core jumped and had concrete poured last night, so that means that utilities, and of course floors, are well on their way to being placed.

[antinimby]

I see no technical reason why this could not be done. Just put up a glass curtain wall in there place.That's good to hear. At least it could one day not have to look like a fortress.


PS: They are called "Protection walls" on the prints.Yeah, "blast" does not sound very pleasant. :D

[lofter1]

What would the point be spending millions to replace the lower curtain wall with transparent material just so people could see the concrete core and mechanicals inside?

[antinimby]

Huh, what are you talking about?

This is what you see with or without the wall. No mechanical or concrete core to be seen anywhere.

Getting rid of the peripheral "protection wall" would just let more light in and from the outside, look less like a bunker.


http://nymag.com/daily/intel/20070802freedomlobby.jpg

http://www.tropolism.com/28cnd-freedom.6.650.jpg


More natural light and less wall is always a good thing. :cool:

[lofter1]

Right above that lobby ^ are mechanical floors, which take up a big chunk non-transparent of the base.

[antinimby]

So just do it for the ground / non-mechanical floor.

[lofter1]

Wouldn't that look silly & top heavy?

~ 60' of transparent glass topped by 140' of non-transparent glass as now planned.

Stripey.

[antinimby]

That could actually look cool and not silly at all.

We are talking about something that is way far out in the future and that may or may not happen. I'm sure at that time, they'd probably have a plan to reconfigure things around in such a way that it could work.

[yepole]

More construction materials are now stacked on the top floor - it looks like more climbing forms are going to be set up in the days ahead!
But we have snow storm/blizzard approaching the city, which may put work on hold for some time...

[GreenwichBoy]

12/19/09

[easy]

I love the red steel - the site is beautiful in its own way. The scale of these steel buildings is somehow more striking when they are naked. Hope you enjoy. :)

I know it's been said before, but the glass on WTC7 is wonderful. I really hope WTC1 gets the same quality treatment. Does anyone know what the color is supposed to be relative to WTC7?

[ZenSteelDude]

Tower One shares many details with Tower Seven, including the glass in the curtain walls and the entrances. In fact, Tower One well be the big sister of #7. The main difference being the base.

PS: all that red steel well be covered in the finished product.

[easy]

Thanks Zen. I'm looking forward to seeing it from home in Brooklyn, especially at sunrise. I feel lucky to have a front row seat as she rises.

[lofter1]

I love the red steel - the site is beautiful in its own way.


Completely in agreement. If they were to repaint 1 Liberty Plaza (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showpost.php?p=309684&postcount=609) the color of this steel I'd be all for it.

[ZenSteelDude]

Weather outlook . . .

SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF 10 TO 15 INCHES... WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS AS HIGH AS 18 INCHES... ARE EXPECTED. SNOWFALL RATES OF 2 TO 4 INCHES PER HOUR...

It'll slow things down for a day or two.

Already have an inch on the ground as of 4pm Saturday, with strong winds here in Gladstone, NJ. (30 miles west of Manhattan)

Off to play in the snow with the girls.

[HoveringCheesecake]

I love the red steel - the site is beautiful in its own way. The scale of these steel buildings is somehow more striking when they are naked. Hope you enjoy. :)

I know it's been said before, but the glass on WTC7 is wonderful. I really hope WTC1 gets the same quality treatment. Does anyone know what the color is supposed to be relative to WTC7?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/meh_cd/wtc/NEW%20wtc/09freedom-650-1.jpg

[ZenSteelDude]

There are two things that I wish to make clear, 1) the "protection walls" do NOT extend from the lobby to the 20th floor. They well run from the lobby to the UNDERSIDE of the 3rd floor. They are to protect the lobby and the second floor from truck bombs.

Second, they well only be solid at the perimeter . The interior protection walls well have slots in them to let in natural light above the danger zone.

Oh, one more thing, from the third floor to the underside of the 20th floor there well be glass with stainless steel grating behind it. (to keep out the pigeons, aka flying rats)

[lofter1]

Sorry if this has been answered before, but ...

Those "protection walls" on the interior up to the 3rd floor will be constructed of what material(s)?

[ZenSteelDude]

Steel re-enforced concrete, with natural stone cladding on the inside. The renderings don't do it justice, it should look really nice.

Best I can tell this is a rendering of the north entrance.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2601/4199206234_5941516b06_o.jpg

Weather update . . . . . blizzard conditions here in Gladstone, NJ temp 22 degrees F(-5C) as of 10pm December 19th, about 5 inches (127mm) of snow on the ground.

Update, 7 inches if snow (178mm) as of 10:48pm.

[lofter1]

Then those walls will be there forever (hopefully).

Out my window at 12:15 AM there looks to be about 4-6" on the sidewalk across the street -- two buildings have had workers out shoveling tonight, but now it looks as if the snow there had never seen a shovel.

[antinimby]

^ Nothing's forever and particularly so in this city.

I give that wall maybe 20-30 years before there's a need to "update" or freshening up the tower and then if there is no longer the terrorism menace at the time, sayonara to the bunker wall.

By the way, that glass is nice but not the same as 7WTC's, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I don't really want to see matching glass on the two towers.

[ZippyTheChimp]

So the blast walls are going to be set back from the building perimeter.

I think that visually, it'll be a problem up close; but from a distance, the glass facade will hide the wall.

I remember when the building design was changed, the concrete wall was to be at the perimeter, with some sort of metal cladding. The rationale was glass shards flying around from a truck bomb explosion. Seems to me that an exploding truck would create a lot of shrapnel anyway, and casualties would be high.

[lofter1]

Best I can tell this is a rendering of the north entrance.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2601/4199206234_5941516b06_o.jpg


Something missing in that ^ render: The ubiquitous security check point with the uniformed security squad, where pockets are emptied and body check is performed.

Folks are seen walking directly and unimpeded from the exterior doorway to the lobby area. Doubt that it will actually be that way.

[easy]

By the way, that glass is nice but not the same as 7WTC's, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I don't really want to see matching glass on the two towers.

I agree with that. A subtle difference in color will be nice. Even with the same glass though, the non-vertical walls of WTC1 would probably appear to be a different color.

[ZippyTheChimp]

Unless you mean the corner cuts, the 4 walls are vertical. It's an illusion.

[easy]

Unless you mean the corner cuts, the 4 walls are vertical. It's an illusion.

Yes, the corner cuts are what I am referring to.

[Alonzo-ny]

Something missing in that ^ render: The ubiquitous security check point with the uniformed security squad, where pockets are emptied and body check is performed.

Folks are seen walking directly and unimpeded from the exterior doorway to the lobby area. Doubt that it will actually be that way.

For the actual tenants I believe it is normal. Looks just like the lobby in NYTimes to me and possibly the tenant entrance to ESB. I am going on a couple year old memory so I could be wrong.

[lofter1]

NY Times has a secured entry to all points near elevators, but entry into the lobby area is unimpeded. Perhaps there is something at 1WTC planned for the area around the corner from the big desk near the entry to the core area.

[GreenwichBoy]

12/22/09

The base of the south crane has "jumped".

[yepole]

Awesome! I think the crane itself have "jumped" by now!
As good (as bad) as it can be seen from the RGZ cam, all cranes have reawakened, they are assembling something on the top floor...
Keep us updated! ;)

[BStyles]

Yeah, the earthcam must've been knocked out by the snow...hopefully it's not as long of a down time as last time.

I see what they're doing though. They're jumping one floor so that they can jump four stories to the 20th floor once it's completed. Plus the core has just jumped, so most of the core steel has been covered now.

[lofter1]

I think, having seen pictures of the detailing and materials, that you might be surprised once it's up.

[injcsince81]

i love the new world trade center, really i do. i think its well laid out, with the restored fulton and greenwhich streets, and i like the park in the middle. towers 2, 3, 4, and the transit center are great, and well thought out towers. however, the freedom tower is a piece of crap. it is clunky, boring, boxy, and has a 20 floor hideous base that does not fit in with the rest of the tower. i really hate this tower. too bad the site has to be pockmarked with this monstrosity.

If you are calling the new WTC 1 "boxy", what do you call the original WTC 1 and 2?

Oh, wait, I know - "minimalist"...

:rolleyes:

[GreenwichBoy]

12/23/09

[oquatanginwan]

You are the best greenwichboy. Love your updates on WTC1 and 4.

So the south crane jumped and they're already staging the next level of perimeter steel on the east side. Looks like the south core steel should be going up shortly.

[yepole]

Another point of view - YES, EC is up and operational!
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5295/1crop.th.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5295/1crop.jpg)
Agreed about south core - everything seems to be ready!
Not sure if some perimeter steel was put in place already, cannot see any here... though I also noticed few vertical rods sticking up on GB's picture..
* East stairs got extended upwards
* Pouring north core now (!!)
* more frames staged on the top floor - looks like north core elevator openings gonna have what south ones already do!
* Oh, and the whole site looks unusual, in a good way, with snow all over the place! :-)

[GreenwichBoy]

http://imgsrv.1010wins.com/image/DbGraphic/200912/1450734.jpg?1261595095





New Restaurant on Tower Rising at Ground Zero



NEW YORK (1010 WINS/AP) -- Workers at ground zero won't have to go very far to grab a bite to eat.

They're getting a restaurant that's coming to them: Fast food at the top of the Freedom Tower they're building.

A Subway sandwich shop went up on Wednesday. It's attached to a construction crane that will move it higher and higher as each floor is completed.

The bright yellow concession trailer with an American flag will feed workers as they build 105 floors. That was almost the height of Windows on the World. Seventy-three employees died at that restaurant on Sept. 11, 2001.

It will be 2013 before the Freedom Tower is finished.

Only five floors have been built so far.

[scumonkey]

earthcam back up and running! ;)

[ZenSteelDude]

Just in time for the sun to set.:(


I wonder how much that is costing Subway.

There is a strict ban on billboards and signs at the WTC, they even made DCM take the signs off the tower cranes.

They'll have to hoist 10 tons of lettuce and 10 pounds of meat up to it every day, and 100 feet of bread.

[ZippyTheChimp]

^
I didn't realize so many construction workers were vegetarians? :)

[DarrylStrawberry]

no, that's the proper ratio of lettuce to meat on a subway sandwich.

[scumonkey]

It is- now that a vegi to meat ratio switch a roo was made to the op

[antinimby]

Lots of lettuce-eatin' hardhats.

[ZenSteelDude]

If I were a hardhat on the site I would spend the extra $2 and get a sandwich from the deli 3 doors down from the firehouse on Liberty and get a pound of meat on 2 slices of rye, and I would be lucky to get the bread.

hot pastrami on whiskey with mustard, and a pickle !!

[lofter1]

A Field Trip to 1 World Trade Center, Hardhats Not Included

CURBED (http://curbed.com/archives/2009/12/23/a_field_trip_to_1_world_trade_center_hardhats_not_ included.php)
December 23, 2009

18 PICS (http://curbed.com/archives/2009/12/23/a_field_trip_to_1_world_trade_center_hardhats_not_ included.php)

Things are looking up for the artist formerly known as the Freedom Tower. Way up. As controversy continues to swirl around the status of other World Trade Center towers, the steel for the project's centerpiece, One WTC, has reached—brace—the fifth floor. Okay, so architect David Childs's 1,776-foot middle finger to terrorism still has about 97 stories to go, we're still a little floored that there's any progress at all on the eternally delayed WTC rebuilding. (Developer Larry Silverstein's Tower 4 (http://curbed.com/tags/tower-4) is also now out of the ground.) The goal for the first quarter of 2010 is to get 1 World Trade Center up to its 20th floor. The Port Authority recently invited us over for a construction tour, and how could we resist a chance to see the city's most extreme sandwich shop? Unfortunately the sky-high Subway wasn't hoisted into place (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wtcprogress/4208724093/) until today, but we still got to see some cool stuff, including some serious progress on the 9/11 Memorial pools (http://curbed.com/archives/2009/09/10/more_designs_and_details_released_for_september_11 _museum.php). Take a look.

[dtolman]

New Restaurant on Tower Rising at Ground Zero
...


Some more details from the full AP article:

A full Subway menu will be served, including the trademark $5 foot-long hero.

Richard Schragger, who owns the Freedom Tower franchise, said he'll also offer extras no other Subway has: hot dogs, hamburgers and New York's famed pretzels.
...
Like other franchises of the Milford, Conn.-based company, this one will bake its own bread daily — higher and higher above ground zero. As the tower grows, the lift will "jump" to the next new floor along with the restaurant, at a rate of one story about every week or two, engineers estimate.

On Wednesday, nine bright yellow containers, each bearing an American flag, were lifted to the tower's fifth floor. There, they'll be stacked on a hydraulically powered platform near two cranes at the building's core. The resulting three-level structure will house a kitchen with refrigeration, an eating area and storage and trash, with a compost unit to recycle waste.
...
Among nine bidders, Subway was the only one that did not demand a guarantee of profit, said Bill Grutta, DCM's vice president of operations.

"They came back with an offer to do this at cost, and if there's a loss, we'll subsidize it," Grutta said, adding, "We're not looking to make money on the food, just to accommodate the ironworkers."


Sounds pretty damn cool if you ask me...

[lofter1]

The marketing opportunity with the big logo up there for all the world to see (and photograph) more than makes up for any lack of "profit."

[injcsince81]

i think the originals were worse...

I do too.

But in my opinion the new WTC 1 is not terrible. Unimaginative, yes, but not terrible.

I would prefer to see inspired architecture there, of which Calatrava's Chicago Spire is one example (in my opinion, of course).

It would look great as WTC 1.

[yepole]

South Core steel is going up, great present for holiday! :)

[GreenwichBoy]

12/24/09

Core steel

[BrooklynRider]

Spoke with my brother-in-law working with the union carpenters. He says the steel must be 7 floors above the core, before the next core section is readied.

[Daquan13]

Proof that we won't see the core itself rising now.

[lofter1]

Things are looking good for 2010 ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/091225_1WTCStar_1.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/091225_1WTCStar_2.jpg

*

[ZenSteelDude]

Spoke with my brother-in-law working with the union carpenters. He says the steel must be 7 floors above the core, before the next core section is readied.

That makes sense, the tower cranes and all the other stuff have to climb high enough to be out of the way of rebar placement and the forms.

[BiggieSmalls]

from lowermanhattan.info

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/news/3_questions_for_quentin_78870.aspx


3 Questions for Quentin Brathwaite, Port Authority

At the center of it all is Quentin Brathwaite, the Port Authority’s assistant director of WTC Construction. Just as the complexities of WTC site redevelopment are unparalleled, so are Mr. Brathwaite’s job duties, which include vast engineering and logistical planning, coordination between the various stakeholders and construction managers, and the responsibility of constant community outreach and responsiveness. In fact, the duties of the latter alone prompted the Port to create and entirely new division within the WTC Department, the Office of Program Logistics, headed by Mr. Brathwaite.


....

The Port Authority’s contractor responsible for installing WTC Transportation Hub steel will reposition the 18,000 in the East Bathtub (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/world_trade_center_east_23614.aspx) in the first quarter of 2010.

[ZenSteelDude]

Some time next year, after big and bigger red are gone they well erect the construction elevators on the east and west sides.

Here is a shot of the Beekman Tower with the construction elevator towers pointed out. The one on the right has 4 cabs and the one on the left has 2. Both CE towers for Tower One well have 6 cabs each but the one on the west side well only go up to the 35th floor. Internal CE's well take over from there.

Original photo by Derek2k3

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2546/4218539423_34261edaa6_o.jpg

[Daquan13]

Things are looking good for 2010 ...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/091225_1WTCStar_1.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/WTC/1%20WTC/091225_1WTCStar_2.jpg

*



Lofter1, that star seems to add a magic tough to the pics that you posted!

Was it already there, or did you add it to the pics?

[lofter1]

It's suspended from a light post on Vesey Street -- along the cemetery at St. Pauls Chapel.

After I downloaded the pic I noticed the red pulley. Or is it a big ornament hanging on the branch above the star?

[Daquan13]

Thanks.

Looks like the red pulley, but I could be wrong.

[DKNY617]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2580/4220826820_6950a3882b_b.jpg

[uakoops]

The first perimeter column for the next level is going up now on the SE corner.

[GertElim]

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8579/screenshot030ea.th.jpg (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/screenshot030ea.jpg/)

I was about to say the same thing!

[Daquan13]

Looks like the first construction elevator is in use in that pic. :)

[GreenwichBoy]

12/28/09

[yepole]

^ Finally!! :)
Inner wall is going up in that corner now as well.
Let's see now much they'd be able to finish before windy weather arrives...

[GreenwichBoy]

^ Finally!! :)
Inner wall is going up in that corner now as well.
Let's see now much they'd be able to finish before windy weather arrives...


The windy weather is here and in full force till sometime in May.

[yepole]

That is also true.. But I meant tomorrow, with wind gusts up to 40 mph.
They lowered East Red's boom down to street level not long ago... :-\

[econ_tim]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4052/4224128700_d991bb9131_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4223365691_7ae619fff6_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2788/4224131488_f5468ef0bf_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2776/4224133360_8a1b57d881_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2522/4224134198_6401d4091b_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4223371027_e3fd4df6e8_b.jpg

[lofter1]

Anyone have an estimate when they'll start encasing all that beautiful steel in concrete?

[Tectonic]

Dreadful thoughts...

[Daquan13]

I wonder what that is that's being hoisted up. :confused:

[BrooklynLove]

Beer

[ZenSteelDude]

Anyone have an estimate when they'll start encasing all that beautiful steel in concrete?

If it's red it's not being encased in concrete. If it's unpainted with shear studs all over it, it's core steel. If it's unpainted with no shear studs, it's getting encased in fireproofing.

PS: Great shots econ_tim.

[ZenSteelDude]

I wonder what that is that's being hoisted up. :confused:

Looks like catwalks for the elevator service level between the first and second floor. But it could also be floor opening covers. In fact it probably is floor opening covers, they should be close to a floor slab pour and they need to be in place before the pour.

[lofter1]

Re: STEEL




If it's red it's not being encased in concrete.


No doubt this has been answered before, so please bear with me ...

Will the red beams at the exterior simply be left as is behind the glass? Or will they be enclosed in something other than concrete?

[ZenSteelDude]

If it has been answered before it wasn't by me and I have no problem with answering any questions.

Above the third floor all the red steel well be enclosed by sheet metal, probably painted white or off white. Ironically they are called column covers, and well most likely have some kind of fireproofing inside them.

Believe me, my 7 year old can be way way more annoying than Daquan13, or anyone else on this forum, when it comes to questions, and she is still alive, well and happy.

[westmc9th]

If it has been answered before it wasn't by me and I have no problem with answering any questions.

Above the third floor all the red steel well be enclosed by sheet metal, probably painted white or off white. Ironically they are called column covers, and well most likely have some kind of fireproofing inside them.

will we see any of this steel this next year to cover htis, and if so when should we start to see the red steel be covered

[Daquan13]

Looks like catwalks for the elevator service level between the first and second floor. But it could also be floor opening covers. In fact it probably is floor opening covers, they should be close to a floor slab pour and they need to be in place before the pour.



Thank you, Zen. :)

[NYatKNIGHT]

Tower 1

[uakoops]

It looks like they are beginning to jump the North crane. The upper red frame has moved up to match the south one.

[westmc9th]

It looks like they are beginning to jump the North crane. The upper red frame has moved up to match the south one.

yea and more core steel for the south side, will they work tomorrow on new years eve?

[GreenwichBoy]

yea and more core steel for the south side, will they work tomorrow on new years eve?

^
Same as X-mas eve they worked till 3pm.

[GreenwichBoy]

It looks like they are beginning to jump the North crane. The upper red frame has moved up to match the south one.


Jumped - both cranes at the same height.

[Derek2k3]

Random thought:
The red steel of 1WTC would be the perfect color for the Queensboro Bridge.

[Alonzo-ny]

Could look like this:

http://www.freefoto.com/images/17/36/17_36_16---The-Forth-Rail-Bridge_web.jpg

[NoyokA]

My all-time favorite bridge.

[195Broadway]

Looks like three Apatosaurus end to end.

[ZenSteelDude]

Ahhhhhhh, the Firth of Forth bridge, the original rail bridge opened in 1890, not the boring road bridge just to the west opened in 1964.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf0vEoNtnQY

[Alonzo-ny]

Soon to be joined by a third, cable stayed bridge.

[GreenwichBoy]

1/1/10 Happy New Year!

[Bob]

Get your last unobstructed,sunlight-bathed, looks in on the Verizon (Barclay-Vesey) south facade while you still can! That building is an absolute gem, and really dresses up the neighborhood nicely. Glad it survived 9/11 and that Verizon spent the cash to restore it. Cool and classy move.

[antinimby]

It's probably saying to itself: "oh no, I'm going to get boxed in from all sides once again!"

[lofter1]

Verizon always had an open vista to the west. With the addition of the new GS HQ across West Street the Verizon building will be boxed in as never before once 1 WTC rises above it.

[ZippyTheChimp]

Along with the Federal Office Building, nice to have some masonry breaking up all the glass.

[ramvid01]

Doesn't look like much work will be done on Monday or Tuesday. 15-20 mph winds for both days apparently.

[ZenSteelDude]

Along with the Federal Office Building, nice to have some masonry breaking up all the glass.

I guess we can add 90 West and 212 Broadway to that list too. I love the old classy next to the new glassy. Can't get that in most cities.

There well be alot of work going on underground, or under cover.

[GreenwichBoy]

1/4/10

[ZippyTheChimp]

January 4, 2010


Authority Seeks Bids for Partner on Tower

By CHARLES V. BAGLI

The central tower at ground zero, designed to rise to 105 stories, has been characterized by some as a symbol of New York’s resilience, and reviled by others as a white elephant. Now it will pick up a new label: for sale.

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey wants to sell the skyscraper, the former Freedom Tower, known now by its original name, 1 World Trade Center.

In recent days, the Port Authority has asked a select group of commercial real estate developers and owners to bid for a partnership interest in the $3.2 billion tower, according to a developer who was contacted by the authority.

The offering would allow the authority to raise what it hopes would be at least $100 million for the project. But the authority wants its new partner to take on the difficult task of marketing the skyscraper’s space and negotiating leases with corporate tenants.

Stephen Sigmund, a spokesman for the authority, acknowledged that a potential sale was in the offing.

“As 1 World Trade Center continues to rise into the city skyline,” he said Thursday, “the timing is right to determine whether there is a strategic partnership that can add long-term success to the building.”

Although the steel latticework is only about five floors above street level today, the skyscraper has been laden with enormous symbolic weight since its inception. It will stand 1,776 feet tall, in a nod to the country’s founding. The tower, with 2.6 million square feet, will also be among the most expensive office buildings in North America when it is completed in 2013.

The sales effort is likewise just getting off the ground. According to executives briefed on the Port Authority’s strategy, it has hired two real estate advisers, Cushman & Wakefield and Jones Lang LaSalle, to handle the negotiations with the prospective partners. The authority has identified a half-dozen companies with the financial wherewithal and the commercial expertise for the job, including Boston Properties, the Related Companies, the Durst real estate family, Hines, Vornado Realty Trust and Brookfield Properties, which owns the adjacent World Financial Center.

The bidders are being asked to sign a confidentiality agreement and are being given access to a restricted Web site with detailed information about the skyscraper.

It is not an especially auspicious time to be selling real estate. Values have plunged since the market peaked in 2007. Rents are down by as much as 45 percent, according to real estate brokers. And the office vacancy rate downtown is expected to climb above 10 percent as A.I.G., the insurance giant, reduces its presence and Goldman Sachs moves this year to its new heavily subsidized headquarters near ground zero.

The Port Authority is also at loggerheads with the developer Larry A. Silverstein, who leased the World Trade Center only weeks before it was destroyed in 2001. Mr. Silverstein wants to build three office towers at ground zero with Port Authority financing, but given the lack of demand, the authority favors a slow, phased approach to construction. The two sides are in the last stage of arbitration.

Still, a number of real estate investors have recently created funds to buy real estate, at the right price. The publicly traded real estate investment trusts, like Vornado and Boston Properties, raised tens of billions of dollars this year, in part to take advantage of falling prices.

The Port Authority, executives say, believes it has a saleable asset.

“There’s a substantial amount of real estate equity capital looking for the right investment,” said Michael Rotchford, the executive vice president at Cushman who is handling the partnership sale for the authority. “We think this is potentially one of the best real estate investments available in New York.”

In March, the Beijing Vantone Industrial Company, a Chinese real estate firm, signed a 23-year lease for the 64th through 69th floors at 1 World Trade Center. The authority has also signed preliminary agreements with the state and federal governments for an additional one million square feet.

Copyright 2010 The New York Times Company

[antinimby]

I also posted ^ that article here.

I just deleted it.

[BrooklynRider]

So, the PANY&NJ takes over 1WTC from a private developer only to seek a private developer to take it over after the hard work (and price) has been extracted from a public entity?

[Derek2k3]

Pics from a few hours ago.

5 Floors up 100 to go. (I know it's a little more complicated than that)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4245799490_bb5815b699_o.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2678/4245799498_441b0d2fb7_o.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2699/4245799506_de7c7cf7f9_o.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4245799512_35f59807cb_o.jpg

[Daquan13]

They might as well have let Silverstein keep it. :rolleyes:

[uakoops]

Earthcam HD is down again! :(:(:(:(:(

[ZippyTheChimp]

They might as well have let Silverstein keep it. :rolleyes:I don't think he had any enthusiasm to build it.

[HoveringCheesecake]

I'm beginning to lose enthusiasm myself, so I must commend the man for sticking with the site this long. The powers that be should take a big, long look at themselves and realize what a laughing stock the reconstruction has become... but hah, like that'll ever happen. They're too busy shelling out demolition permits for hundred year old gems elsewhere in the city and complaining about buildings like Tower Verre that would only add to the atmosphere.

Disgusting.

[ZenSteelDude]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4249674210_c779627026_o.jpg

[ZenSteelDude]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2744/4249689218_bf867bc374_o.jpg

There 411 posts, fitting don't ya think. NE corner of the 3rd floor and overview of third floor from the mechanical drawings.

[Daquan13]

I don't think he had any enthusiasm to build it.



I somehow get the feeling that they've all lost interest or enthusiasum.

These days, it just seems to be; "Get the complex done and over with!". Though things may appear to be normal, there seems to be no joy coming from the officials. :(

[lofter1]

Joy coming from the bureaucrats at PANYNJ :D

[lofter1]

... the mechanical drawings.

They don't threaten to kill your pets for posting this stuff?

[Sherpa]

They don't threaten to kill your pets for posting this stuff?

Janet Napolitano has said nothing, so it must be ok...

[uakoops]

I see they are beginning to work on the blast wall inside the South entrance.

[BrooklynRider]

They don't threaten to kill your pets for posting this stuff?

He snuck the plans out in his underwear through the security gate. I think that is permitted.

[injcsince81]

If the WTC1 engineering plans are Company Confidential information, they should not be posted here.

[Daquan13]

He snuck the plans out in his underwear through the security gate. I think that is permitted.



Like the guy who tried to blow up the plane over Detroit on Xmas did? Snuck the explosives through security in his underwear.

Supposing a terrorist reads this and want to try to do the same thing. Sneak plans for any of the towers off Ground Zero in his underwear. What then? :eek:

[Ed007Toronto]

I'm beginning to lose enthusiasm myself

The tallest building in the city is now starting to rise in the skyline and you're losing enthusiasm? Many of us from outside New York would die for something like this in their city.

[NYatKNIGHT]

1/06/10

[yepole]

Thank you for update, especially welcome one with EC down!
I saw uakoops mentioned it earlier - is that really a protection wall starting to rise within the base on the south, and now the east side too?
Noticed it on the nighttime RGZ shot and now from the real picture it looks even more convincing! Great news if so!

[nykid17]

Is the point where those two red beams meet at an angle, the end of the mechanical floors and the beginning of the occupied ones?
As seen in the below rendering:
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww310/nYkind17/freedom_tower_2.jpg?t=1262804594

[RandySavage]

^Yes. In your rendering and the photo you can see the triangle peaks just above the first setback of the WFC.

[Alonzo-ny]

Wouldn't the structure be more efficient and elegant if the triangular diagrid continued all the way to the top?

[BiggieSmalls]

id like to see that render with the Goldman Sachs building

[lofter1]

Note in the render that the Gehry Performing Arts building is non-existent and has been replaced by a grove of trees.

[DKNY617]

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy111/DKNY618/IMG_0851.jpg

[BrooklynRider]

Look. Two arrows spooning.

[195Broadway]

Thanks, DK.
Man, this build is currently taking care of most of my instant gratification needs. (a rarity)
Some inner calm. ... Gonna enjoy it while it lasts.

[yepole]

EarthCam is back up and running!
A lot of new steel is up, even since last update from DK!
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/9898/crop1.th.jpg (http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/9898/crop1.jpg)

[ZenSteelDude]

OK, the southeast corner is at the hight were the corner node well be the next "column section" fitted.

As always, great pic DKNY

[jayden]

Hey there guys. Been following this project here since 2002 when 7WTC started and I must say that this is an amazing site to see.

If I'm not mistaking, they should begin with the office floors preety soon as it looks like the towers base is nearly complete.

[GreenwichBoy]

1/8/10

[DMAG]

The picture of the blast wall is very deceiving. I almost makes it look as if you need to squeeze through a tiny corridor in order to enter the building. In reality I'm sure its a decently wide expanse.

[ZippyTheChimp]

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4543/wtc55c.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/i/wtc55c.jpg/) http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6302/wtc56c.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/i/wtc56c.jpg/) http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/703/wtc57c.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/i/wtc57c.jpg/)

[jcrm2]

EarthCam is back up and running!
A lot of new steel is up, even since last update from DK!
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/9898/crop1.th.jpg (http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/9898/crop1.jpg)

WOOOOOW, Very Impressive!!. I still believe with the speed they are going, they can finish by the end of next Yr. Maybe by the 10 yr adversary of 9/11. 2013 seems out of range. Look how the Beekman Tower a few blocks away finished within a Yr.

[yepole]

They are working on north, east, and south perimeter at the same time now - I think this is the first floor that is put together in such coordinated manner, using all four cranes at the same time!

[James Kovata]

Any bets on when this building will top out? It seems to be moving quickly now.

[DarrylStrawberry]

1.9.10, 9:30 am.

[GreenwichBoy]

1/9/10

[lofter1]

Looks great on a sunny day ^

Seems that the tops of the triangles mark the ~ 200' height point, yes?

[easy]

From 1/7

[ZenSteelDude]

Looks great on a sunny day ^

Seems that the tops of the triangles mark the ~ 200' height point, yes?

Within 20 feet or so, yes. A slightly smaller and inverted version of the branching conections goes on top, and we've all seen how big they are.

[ZenSteelDude]

The picture of the blast wall is very deceiving. I almost makes it look as if you need to squeeze through a tiny corridor in order to enter the building. In reality I'm sure its a decently wide expanse.

Yes, it's set back about 12 feet from the inside face of the perimeter columns.

Thanks for all the pics Zippy, GB, DS and Easy and anyone else I may have overlooked..

[westmc9th]

those big pieces for the edges should be coming in soon right, the ones we talked about zensteeldude?

[Catflap60]

Hi im new here and i just love the freedom tower so much that i will be proud to work there for a living because i was so inspired by the original wtc that make me fell with pride to say that i work in 1wtc my friend! Please i just love the update

P.S. Does anybody knows what floor the wtc is up to now, Because last time i heard it was 5.:)

[Catflap60]

anybody there?:confused:

[Daquan13]

Hi im new here and i just love the freedom tower so much that i will be proud to work there for a living because i was so inspired by the original wtc that make me fell with pride to say that i work in 1wtc my friend! Please i just love the update

P.S. Does anybody knows what floor the wtc is up to now, Because last time i heard it was 5.:)



Don't know exactly, but it IS now way more than 5.

[JSsocal]

Well the number of actual floors is actually about 5 now, but we're almost at the top of the base and so in a sense you can call it 20

[CitiesfromSpace]

Redirecting this over from the 7WTC page:


Funny you mention that lofter. Since the "slide" ends at the top of the base, I wonder if a stream will come shooting out 20 feet from that point and create mini (or not so mini) waterfalls on unsuspecting passerbys.

Hahaha, awesome. In all seriousness though, 1WTC does do some rainwater collection for cooling. Is that rain used for anything else?

[Daquan13]

Well the number of actual floors is actually about 5 now, but we're almost at the top of the base and so in a sense you can call it 20




Yeah, there IS supposed to be about 20 non-public or unoccupied floors there.

A few, most or all of them are or will be mech floors. Forgot exactly how it is supposed to go, but there WILL BE 20.

[yepole]

I just realized that next floor will not be 100% visible from the EarthCam anymore, unless they move it up...
Anyway, I was excited about the progress made in the last week, and I looked back about a month ago.
First picture: steel installed Dec 18th to Jan 4th (18 days)
Second picture: Jan 4th - Jan 12th (8 days).
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5076/10410.th.jpg (http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5076/10410.jpg) http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3771/11210x.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3771/11210x.jpg)
Looks like this floor will be completed in just two weeks period!

[ZenSteelDude]

those big pieces for the edges should be coming in soon right, the ones we talked about zensteeldude?

My guess is 3 to 6 weeks before they go up.

[ZenSteelDude]

Redirecting this over from the 7WTC page:



Hahaha, awesome. In all seriousness though, 1WTC does do some rainwater collection for cooling. Is that rain used for anything else?

Flushing and fire protection among other things.

[ZenSteelDude]

Yeah, there IS supposed to be about 20 non-public or unoccupied floors there.

A few, most or all of them are or will be mech floors. Forgot exactly how it is supposed to go, but there WILL BE 20.

I thought we covered this already dude, there are no floors 7 through 19.

[Daquan13]

Isn't the base supposed to be the height of 20 floors, even if there aren't 20 floors there?

Maybe I was wrong and mistook 5 floors for 20, but it IS supposed to still have that height.

[lofter1]

5 actual floors = height of 20 standard floors.

[Daquan13]

Thank you.

Forgot about the mostly unused space in the base.

[Catflap60]

because i check wtcprogess.com and they did'nt update it in a month!:mad:

[Daquan13]

Never doubted that. I just forgot how many floors are in the base.

After all, we've waited for so long to even see the tower being built, much less anything else. :(

[CitiesfromSpace]

Flushing and fire protection among other things.

Ah, sweet! Wow, think about what a water usage savings that is. If the average flush is, hypothetically, 1.5 gallons, and the building is able to capture 33%, say, of that flush water, over the millions of flushes per year it's a lot of f'in water :D

[Catflap60]

But when a see the base it looks like a huge stone block with red stell bars around it!:confused:

[ZenSteelDude]

No no no, the base is the lobby and mechanical floors 2 through 6. The office floors start at floor 20 that's the next floor up from Mechanical floor 6.

There is no equals 20 floors that is a myth. The base is 186 feet high, 200 feet square, then the office floors begin.

[Catflap60]

But it appears that there no in side constuction and it looks like a huge rock, either that or is it a big white curtain...:cool:

[Nomadd]

No no no, the base is the lobby and mechanical floors 2 through 6. The office floors start at floor 20 that's the next floor up from Mechanical floor 6.

There is no equals 20 floors that is a myth. The base is 186 feet high, 200 feet square, then the office floors begin.
It seems like the first office floor should have been 14 at that height. Are they measuring from the lowest level underground or something?

[ZippyTheChimp]

The floor-to-floor height of the Verizon building is about 16 feet, a little higher for the ground floor. 186 feet would be approximately 11 floors.

[GreenwichBoy]

1/13/10

[Nomadd]

The floor-to-floor height of the Verizon building is about 16 feet, a little higher for the ground floor. 186 feet would be approximately 11 floors.
I was going by WTC1 office floor height which, according to the all seeing, great and terrible Zensteeldude is 13' 4".