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November 13th, 2003, 11:09 PM
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Mandarin Oriental, New York at Time Warner Center (http://www.wirednewyork.com/aol/aol_central_park.htm) is situated at the northwest arc of Columbus Circle. Steps away from Central Park, this unrivaled location offers the best of New York’s cultural epicenter. Renowned performance venues such as Lincoln Center and Carnegie Hall are within walking distance, while the world-class shopping of Madison Avenue and Fifth Avenue are but a stroll through Central Park.

Guest Rooms
251 sophisticated and luxuriously appointed guestrooms including 48 suites with stunning views of Central Park and the Manhattan skyline

Restaurants & Bars
Asiate – a trend-setting restaurant capturing the elements of European and oriental cuisine
Mandarin Oriental Lobby Lounge – light refreshments, afternoon tea and late night desserts
MObar – a lively atmosphere for pre or post dinner drinks

Meetings and Conferences
A total of 7,000 sq. ft of meeting space including 4 meeting and function rooms.
State-of-the-art audio visual capabilities.

Health & Fitness
Exclusive 14,500 sq.ft Mandarin Oriental Spa offering a complete 'journey of the senses'
High performance fitness center including a 75-foot naturally lit indoor lap pool.

80 Columbus Circle at 60th Street
New York, NY 10019, USA

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The entrance to Mandarin Oriental New York Hotel (http://www.wirednewyork.com/hotels/mandarin_oriental/default.htm) on 11 November 2003.

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December 7th, 2003, 09:06 PM
The bar and the Christmas tree in the new Mandarin Oriental New York Hotel (http://www.wirednewyork.com/hotels/mandarin_oriental/default.htm).

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The lobby of the new Mandarin Oriental New York Hotel (http://www.wirednewyork.com/hotels/mandarin_oriental/default.htm).

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December 7th, 2003, 10:29 PM
Oooh. :shock:

December 7th, 2003, 10:42 PM

The public is allowed into the lobby?

December 7th, 2003, 10:52 PM
Yes, but you have to behave yourself ;)

December 7th, 2003, 10:53 PM
Oh, I'm good at that. Went into the Hyatt in Jersey City, peed and left, all quietly and good-mannered.

December 8th, 2003, 12:50 AM
Had "dinner" twice in the lounge. Not cheap, but worth it for the view, especially if you wait for seats next to the windows. The view down into Columbus Circle is amazing--it's worth going up there just to look down at it. (But if you stay, don't order the chicken lollypops. Very weird stuff)

December 8th, 2003, 08:00 AM
So, is it lollypops because they are served on a stick; or descriptive of some part of the chicken (in which case I don't wanna know) :shock:

December 8th, 2003, 09:09 AM
Oh, I'm good at that. Went into the Hyatt in Jersey City, peed and left, all quietly and good-mannered.

Marking your territory? ;)

December 8th, 2003, 12:51 PM
So, is it lollypops because they are served on a stick; or descriptive of some part of the chicken (in which case I don't wanna know) :shock:

I THOUGHT it would be a tasty chicken nugget at the end of a stick, but it was a fried blob of chicken at the end of a bone. Pretty gross, but that's just me. I don't like bones in my face.

December 8th, 2003, 01:03 PM
:x Nasty!!!

I will like to go for the sunday brunch... Of course I bet there will be a waiting list or reservations required.

December 29th, 2003, 10:43 PM
New Yorkers and New York visitors enjoying $15 cocktails in the bar of the new Mandarin Oriental New York Hotel (http://www.wirednewyork.com/hotels/mandarin_oriental/default.htm).

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The view of the park and New York skyline from the 35th floor of the new Mandarin Oriental New York Hotel (http://www.wirednewyork.com/hotels/mandarin_oriental/default.htm).

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December 29th, 2003, 11:14 PM
It's really the 17th floor, isn't it?

May 29th, 2004, 09:21 PM
May 30, 2004


For the Champagne Set, a Darling New Spot to Clink and Contribute


Scaffolding still envelops the steel-and-glass facade of the new Mandarin Oriental Hotel in the Time Warner Center, and visitors leaving the building on West 60th Street are greeted by a chorus of jackhammers. But 36 stories up, its ballroom is quickly becoming the darling of the city's charity fund-raisers, and some benefit watchers say it is edging out old favorites like the Waldorf-Astoria and the Pierre.

More than two dozen nonprofit organizations, including the American Heart Association and Bellevue Hospital Center, have held benefits at the Mandarin since it opened in December, and bookings extend into 2007, said Arthur Backal, the hotel's catering director.

"People tell me that everything happens at the Mandarin these days," Mr. Backal added. "These guests are coming to the same events year after year, and the challenge is to give them something new."

Clients say one reason the Mandarin is becoming such a popular venue is Mr. Backal himself, who used to be the director of catering at the Pierre but left in November 2002 to take the position at the Mandarin. When the American Cancer Society was deciding where to hold its annual spring gala, usually held at the Pierre, Mr. Backal convinced them to choose the Mandarin before construction was even finished.

"It is the hot spot," said Lisa Daglian, a spokeswoman for the society. The May 3 benefit, its largest yearly event, drew 330 people and raised $575,000, which is $45,000 more than last year, she said.

The allure of the Grand Mandarin Ballroom, where most events are held, is easy to understand. It seats up to 500 guests and its centerpiece is an elipse of a chandelier filled with wisps of fiber-optic light. Floor-to-ceiling windows offer views that sweep up to the George Washington Bridge.

Some guests, though, say a few kinks still need to be worked out. Muffie Potter Aston, a Manhattan fund-raiser, said she attended a luncheon at Mandarin recently, where she requested coffee several times but did not receive it. Nevertheless, she said, the Mandarin is attracting events typically held at hotels like the Waldorf and the Plaza.

Jim Blauvelt, the executive director of catering at the Waldorf, said the Mandarin was not having a big impact on his hotel because the charity market is so large. "When a new property comes on line,'' he said, "people experiment and see how it is. Sometimes they like it, but they like to return to the tried and true."

Still, the Mandarin's novelty is far from wearing off. "Most people in this town get 10 invitations per night, seven days a week," Ms. Aston said. "When you're the new kid in town, it's a carrot that can help spur ticket sales."

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

January 26th, 2007, 10:15 AM
Hotel & Motel Management
January 25, 2007

Symmons pours it on at Mandarin Oriental New York

Bathrooms at the Mandarin Oriental New York are outfitted with products from Symmons.

We've all experienced the feel of a bad shower. Whether it's the result of low water pressure, poorly functioning fixtures, or temperature issues, an inferior shower in the morning can get the day off to a terrible start that can be hard to shake.

Management at Mandarin Oriental, New York understands that feeling perfectly. They know full well that in their hotel - an exclusive development on floors 35 to 54 of the Time Warner Center in Columbus Circle that caters to a sophisticated international clientele - the shower "experience," among other amenities, can make the difference in a guest's memorable stay. It isn't only functionality that defines the quality of the experience; the aesthetic appeal of the fixtures and how they complement the overall design of the bathroom is an essential element as well.

It should come as no surprise that the 248-room Mandarin Oriental, New York places a great deal of emphasis on its bathrooms. This exclusive facility is part of the Mandarin Oriental Hotel Group, an award-winning owner and operator of some of the world's most prestigious hotels and resorts, encompassing 8,000 rooms in 16 countries. The hotel built its reputation not only on its four-star features - like breathtaking views over Central Park and the New York City skyline - but on the minute details as well.

Consequently, Mandarin Oriental focused significant attention on this bathroom ritual that may seem mundane at first blush, but nonetheless plays a major role in defining the quality of each guest's stay. Ultimately, the goal is to create an experience that makes the guest feel at home, and in doing so, Mandarin Oriental is not just pleasing its guests; it's engaging in an act of branding that is becoming increasingly crucial in an ultra-competitive industry.

"The hotel industry is highly competitive, particularly in this city," said Phillip Srikishun, chief engineer for Mandarin Oriental, New York. "Increasingly, hotels are looking for an edge, and one of the ways to gain that edge is to create a customized design "look" throughout your hotel - including the bathrooms - that helps establish your brand solidly in a guest's mind. Despite our excellent reputation and loyal clientele, we knew this was something we had to do. We couldn't just rest on our laurels."

This attitude of pursuing constant improvement was shared by Ron Wackrow, Executive Vice President of the Related Lodging Group/Mandarin Oriental, New York. He had a specific vision that encompassed the entire guest experience, down to the tubs, showers and sinks. Eschewing the typical off-the-shelf solutions, Wackrow made a personal trip to Symmons, a premier manufacturer of commercial and residential plumbing products headquartered in Braintree, Massachusetts to examine its offerings. The choice to visit Symmons was far from random. An experienced hotel executive, Wackrow was quite familiar with the company and already comfortable with the use of Symmons products behind the wall, particularly the company's trademark anti-scald, pressure-balancing shower valves which maintain the pre-selected shower temperature.

Additionally, in terms of custom-designed bathroom fittings, Symmons was already on a roll: the company had just finished its first large-scale custom job at the 34-story luxury hotel at the Mohegan Sun Casino in Uncasville, Connecticut.

"The Mohegan Sun project was the origin of what we call our Signature Design Studio," said John Joyce, corporate sales manager for Symmons. "This element of our company produces unique, custom-designed and custom-manufactured bathroom fittings for luxury hotels, resorts, destination locations, condominiums and upscale residential properties. After the Mohegan job was completed, we were actively seeking another assignment that would require custom engineering and design expertise."

As it turned out, Wackrow's vision involved the development of a completely original product design. The centerpiece of his vision was a brand new type of diverter, one which would be incorporated with the valve under one escutcheon rather than having the diverter separate from the valve. Further complicating the engineering challenge was the fact that the push-button diverter would not only be capable of redirecting the incoming flow to an accompanying handspray, but would have to default the flow back to the shower head position, even if the person who last used it had not reset it. The ease of use of the system?and the diverter in particular-was necessitated in part by the influx of overseas guests to the hotel.

"We have a largely international clientele staying at Mandarin Oriental, New York," said Srikishun. "Often, there is a language barrier that requires the function of everything in the room to be quickly and easily interpreted." Over the course of several months, Symmons engineers, hotel owners and design teams worked closely together in the Symmons Signature Design Studio. The mission was to create a new model from the ground up as they designed, refined and tested handsprays, valves, showerheads, and diverters, all with custom trim, until the entire system was flawless. In addition, it would reflect a distinctly modern design that is one of the signature elements of Mandarin Oriental.

Wackrow returned to the lab to offer further direction and tweak the design, and over time the oval-shaped devices were perfected and produced. Upon completion, each of the hotel?s 277 elegant, spacious guestrooms and suites was equipped with two separate Symmons shower systems?one in each of the room's two bathrooms. One is a high-flow shower valve with diverter, a ceiling-mount drench showerhead and pulsating handspray. The other is a spa with the same valve/diverter, plus a Roman tub filler and deck-mounted handspray. Each reflects a distinct Asian flair that is one of the signature elements of Mandarin Oriental and sport a polished chrome finish which, along with high visual appeal and functionality, make the fittings highly resistant to chipping and scratching.

Behind each bathroom wall is a ?-inch Symmons valve-larger than the standard ?-inch variety-to accommodate the systems' five gallon-per-minute water flow. Symmons originated and patented the principle of a fully pressure-balancing mixing valve over 60 years ago and has built a reputation for making reliable products for even the most demanding installations. According to Srikishun, the system fulfilled another critical requirement that could not be overlooked.

"The Symmons systems are in full compliance with the provisions of the ADA [Americans with Disabilities Act]. That was extremely important to us." Despite the impressive scope of the project, the full installation was completed in just over one month. The job was finished in stages, with certain floors being completed before others to make them ready for occupancy. The hotel has been fully operational for just over two years now, and guest feedback has provided a resounding approval of the shower experience.

"We get a lot of compliments on the bathrooms," said Srikishun. "There is an online blog for the hotel industry where people can comment on their experiences at different hotels. Many of these comments involve Mandarin Oriental's showers, with people making specific mention of the excellent water pressure, the temperature, and the overall look. The best comments are the ones from guests who say that the bathrooms give them a feeling of being home."

Wackrow looks back on the entire design process with a mixture of fondness and amazement.

"If you ever told me that I would be using a Symmons valve on my $800-a-night room at Mandarin Oriental, I'd have told you were crazy." After hearing guest feedback, it doesn't seem like such a crazy idea anymore. In fact, based in large part on the experience of its New York counterpart, management at the new Mandarin Oriental being constructed in Boston is considering the services of Symmons's Signature Design Studio as well; Symmons has already submitted a design "look" that is under consideration. If Mandarin Oriental, Boston has anywhere near the same experience with its bathrooms that New York did, there are going to be a lot of guests stepping out of the Boston hotel each morning with big smiles on their faces.

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January 26th, 2007, 02:07 PM
Given the partial sale of this hotel to the Dubai Group, does anyone know if it will remain a Mandarin?

Barnett is planning two pretty big projects on 57th between 6th and 7th. At least one of these probably will be a very high-end hotel.