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maroualle
February 2nd, 2004, 06:08 AM
(Thanks Moby for the tip)

this is part 2 of some of the hate mail that margaret cho received.
i'm disgusted to share the same country with these hateful, racist people.
please remember that this is, without question, the true face of the right-wing in america.
moby
----- Original Message -----
From: XXXX
To: margaret@margaretcho.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:59 AM
Subject: Comments at Moveon.org

Dear fat gook: I was disappointed to read your remarks today on Drudge.
I was disappointed to read that you are just another Hollywood dicksucker.
Instead of trying to be funny, why don't you devise a plan on terrorism? What would and your Hollywood buddies do, other than gobble knobs? Talk is cheap.
Love you long time.

----- Original Message -----
From: XXXX
To: margaret@margaretcho.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:49 AM
Subject: your are not funny, but you are a good example....

of what's great about this country. an asian woman can grow nice and plump in this country...hey just like you did...eating sourdough and those huge sf style scones.....no more seaweed paper for you.
then, only in this country, you can look like a stuck pig (see http://www.drudgereport.com) and spout inane, vulgar, untruths....that are bought only in your adopted home town of sf.
now, don't you want to change your tune a bit about the government and all the bologney....when the lights go out at night do you really believe it, or do you look down at your belly, think about all those organic potato chips and sugar laden odwalla's, you think about your freedom on the stage, and you look at your success.....only in america my little piggie.
your stocks are up, you and your friends are all at work, you don't have a president getting blowjobs in the whitehouse anymore and he's advanced the largest government hand outs in decades.
why are you so angry.....the notorious p-i-g.

----- Original Message -----
From: XXXX
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:25 AM
Subject: moooo

ya know, I always felt sorry for you for being so fat and not even the least bit funny but after reading about your comments at the "Bush Bash" I have even bigger reasons now. Listen you fat ****ing bitch, you are supposed to eat the cream filling in the 35 twinkies that you eat a day...not snort it.
"Kill for oil"???? You ****ing liberals are so stupid...but hey, let's read what a few of your fellow Democrats have said...

Bitch I am from the south and proud of it...at least I can't be blindfolded with dental floss. And I saw your picture from the other night and it looks like you have more chins under your mouth than you had at your family reunion!!! I am soooo ****ing sure that Al Gore would have been a better president... in case you don't remember Al was from TN (the south, you bitch) and Clinton was from Arkansas (also the SOUTH, bitch) and Bush won both of those states in the election. And before you start crying about Florida remember this bitch...all Al Gore had to do was win in his home state and Florida would not have mattered but his sorry ass couldn't even do that. Get a grip bitch... stick to eating twinkies, it's the ONLY thing you are good at.

---- Original Message -----
From:XXXX
To:margaret@margaretcho.com
Sent:Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:33 AM
Subject:Regarding Your Bush Comments

Gee! Now that it is open season on blogs, how about coming down to my pig farm. You look like some good stock to breed with my pigs. In fact, if I have one that looks exactly like you I can sell more pigs to the Chinatowns across the U.S.
It is too bad your such a stupid arrogant idiot who life is full of pampering and stupid left wing ideology. It is just too bad that you give a **** less about the people who have been murdered, tortured and raped in Iraq, or the other 100 millions of people that have been killed throughout the last 70 years because of leftist thinkers who support tyrants and dictators like yourself. Too, bad you’re too stupid to understand. What a pity, what a waste of talent.
However, not is all wasted if you come down to my pig farm. In another month it will be breeding season.

----- Original Message -----
From:XXXX
To:margaret@margaretcho.com
Sent:Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:10 AM

After the moveon.org event, the only thing I find funny about you is that melon head flat face of yours! Now that's funny! Not your political tanting....take a vacation back in the homeland of your forefathers and see how that works for ya!

----- Original Message -----
From:XXXX
To:karen@margaretcho.com
Sent:Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:04 AM
Subject:comment about the asian pig

I saw your thing on Drudge Report. You and your people are abortionist bitches. With Thank said, I do wish your mothers had the foresight to have had abotions.... you ****ing bastyardettes would not be here destorying our society.

----- Original Message -----
From: XXXX
To: Margaret@margaretcho.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:53 AM
Subject: You stupid cunt

Your a dumb,queer,ugly,****ing zipperhead that don't know shit about politics.Do you really think that you are going to change anyone's mind about this President.I can't wait to hear all of you ****ed up liberals cry when Bush wins 48 states.
By the way did I tell you YOU SUCK

----- Original Message -----
From:XXXX
To:karen@margaretcho.com
Sent:Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:24 AM
Subject:BOYCOTT CHO.COM

IT AINT FUNNY TO DISS HALF THE US POPULATION!!!!
SUGGEST THIS PUPPY GET A CIVICS EXAM OR ELSE TURN IN HER GREEN CARD !!!
WE ARE A CHRISTIAN NATION WHO LET HER KIN IN TO HAVE A BETTER LIFE GET WITH THE PROGRAM OR GET OUT

----- Original Message -----
From: XXXX
To:margaret@margaretcho.com
Sent:Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:32 AM
Subject:Pictrure on Drudge Report

After seeing your picture (ugh) on the Drudge Report, I can certainly understand why you are a lesbian. I'm sure all the straight men in the world are happy about that too. You sure are UG-LY.

billyblancoNYC
February 2nd, 2004, 11:51 AM
They seem to be everywhere:

Politically Motivated: Das Gaby-Tal
Underemployed actress Gaby Hoffmann (200 Cigarettes, You Can Count On Me) has assumed the role of “eco-socialist” enforcer—and she isn’t about to let a couple of Manhattanites obnoxiously trying to enjoy their meal in peace stop her! The other night, she interrupted two patrons who were talking about voting Republican at an adjacent table at Café Lebowitz to give them—and most of the restaurant—a piece her of mind. The 22-year-old launched into a fiery tirade, during which she pounded her fists on the table, called both men “assholes,” pronounced herself an eco-socialist, and stormed away only to return and continue the one-sided shouting match. “Capitalism is destroying the world!” she proclaimed. A hipster at a nearby table responded by suggesting that Hoffmann “move to the Middle East, where they stone you to death for your beliefs.” Hoffmann’s rep says that the actress was merely “urging them to vote Democrat.” The objects of her “urging” received free drinks from a sympathetic waitress.

TLOZ Link5
February 2nd, 2004, 02:00 PM
Don't get me started on the quasi-socialists who have pretty much camped out everywhere on the NYU campus. They hand out newsletters and literature for a dollar a pop, and here I am thinking "Okay, you're trying to crush capitalism but you're charging money to forward your ideology."

These are the kind of socialists who expect that, come the Revolution, they'll be the ones lying around Party HQ with clipboards in their hands—who probably have never washed a dish in their lives, but reserve every right to condemn the evil practices of Procter & Gamble. Socialism is a very idealistic system, but every attempt to install a "purely" socialist economic system has failed because few ever take a moment to contemplate the factor of human nature.

Ninjahedge
February 3rd, 2004, 10:17 AM
It's the screamers that get the press. The arsewipes that are insulting Cho's political views based on her race or weight should be castrated on their own narrow-mindedness. They are SO stupid they can't even get their racial epithets right. I believe Cho is chinese, correct? I thought "gook" was Vietnamese (I could be wrong, it is not like I keep a lexicon of these things). And the one bonehead saying something about Seaweed? Um, what a moron, that is Japanese. But that is another matter.

It just goes to prove that some of these people that are proud to say "I am from the south and proud of it" are as bad as their stereotypes say they are.

In a similar move, people like that obnoxious table thumper should also have their tubes snipped, glands removed and lips sewn shut.

YES they are entitled to voice their own opinions, but coming over and slamming a table just because your political views do not matc is not the way to do it.

People get offended by different things, but while some things are understandably offensive and should be taken seriously, but others are not the right and privvy to open debate.

It is lucky she did not get carried out.

narrow minded argumentitive pissants.

TLOZ Link5
February 3rd, 2004, 11:18 AM
The idiots I have to deal with on AOL are enough. On the WTC memorial discussion board following the selection of Michael Arad's design, someone posted "How fitting, an Arab gets the commission." The preceding was edited, as the poster had typed in all capital letters and with a superfluous number of exclamation points. The heinously racist nature of the post didn't bother me as much as the moron's ignorance; Mr. Arad is, of course, Israeli.

Schadenfrau
February 3rd, 2004, 03:29 PM
Margaret Cho is a Korean-American.

Freedom Tower
February 3rd, 2004, 04:37 PM
(Thanks Moby for the tip)

this is part 2 of some of the hate mail that margaret cho received.
i'm disgusted to share the same country with these hateful, racist people.
please remember that this is, without question, the true face of the right-wing in america.
moby


Maroualle, YOU are just as bad as the person who sent those emails, if not worse. Calling him the true face of the right wing in America is just as prejudice and untrue as some of the things he wrote. He probably wrote that after being disgusted over liberals, and then he generalized that they are all "gooks". You, on the other hand, got disgusted with him and blamed it on all conservatives.

I am an American, and a Conservative and proud of both of them. You are ashamed to share this country with me? You said you are disgusted to share this country with right-wingers. Well if thats true, you can go back to Belgium. That is not a racist statement! If you do not like the people or the attitude here no one is forcing you to stay. That is a fact. I am a conservative and if you dont want to share my country with me then dont. But I'd like to remind you that this is my country and you cannot kick me, or any other conservative americans out of it.

This is the liberal problem! This is what made that man so angry! Foreigners move here and right away start criticizing the country, and how it is run. It is withing their first amendment rights, but then it is in our rights to in turn, criticize them. That's the funny thing, people hate it when Americans try to run other countries, even if its for a good reason like getting rid of saddam. But when foreigners move to America, they try to run it, and they complain when they can't. It's true that this is a nation of immigrants. But it doesn't mean that anyone can move in, bash bush, make prejudice blanket statements about conservatives, and then expect no reply.

I am right wing. I was born here, and I know that most Americans, and most right wingers are not racist at all. You, on the other hand, are not an American, Im not saying it to exclude you, im just stating a fact. Yet you are telling me who belongs in this country and who doesnt belong in it. Ill tell you who doesnt belong in it, terorrists dont belong in it. But to most liberals it seems that even screening muslims is an evil thing to do, in order to find terorrists. This over-liberalism is just as bad as over-conservatism. The EXTREME of either leftwing or rightwing is bad, just that extreme left wing is condoned while extreme right wing is not.

Do I complain about liberal Belgians, no I do not. You are telling me you think rigth-wingers do not belong in America!? Who are you to say. Why is free speech for liberals only nowadays? Also, why didn't you post what this "Margaret Cho" said to make this man so angry? I'm not conding his behavior, but there are two sides to the story. You have to understand that she was probably just as bad as he is.

The plain fact is that you are saying all conservatives are bad. That is a lie. You say you are ashamed they are in America, yet some of them were born here, while you were not. I dont move to belgium and then say im ashamed liberals live in that country. Heck, I believe nowadays an American would be trampled to death for doing such a thing. Europeans are becoming increasingly affected by al-jazeera like propoganda.

Freedom Tower
February 3rd, 2004, 04:44 PM
They are SO stupid they can't even get their racial epithets right. I believe Cho is chinese, correct?

It just goes to prove that some of these people that are proud to say "I am from the south and proud of it" are as bad as their stereotypes say they are.

In a similar move, people like that obnoxious table thumper should also have their tubes snipped, glands removed and lips sewn shut.


You are so stupid you dont even know her race.

Now YOU are being prejudiced against the south. God forbid someone would use an asian stereotype you would harass them, but a southern stereotype fits perfectly. You just generalized that proud southerners fit a stereotype. In case you didnt notice, your rants are just as bad as his. Just because you are on an opposing political side, you claim his are worse.

Hmm, now you are supporting torture to all southerners who speak their mind? Or just those that you don't agree with should be tortured? Maybe you can move to iraq and live under saddam, his regime would fit you well if you dont want political debate and if you support torture. Oh, wait, saddam is no longer in power :D. Now I know why you didnt support the war. You just love those regimes where they torture people with different opinions.

Freedom Tower
February 3rd, 2004, 04:48 PM
They seem to be everywhere:

Politically Motivated: Das Gaby-Tal
Underemployed actress Gaby Hoffmann (200 Cigarettes, You Can Count On Me) has assumed the role of “eco-socialist” enforcer—and she isn’t about to let a couple of Manhattanites obnoxiously trying to enjoy their meal in peace stop her! The other night, she interrupted two patrons who were talking about voting Republican at an adjacent table at Café Lebowitz to give them—and most of the restaurant—a piece her of mind. The 22-year-old launched into a fiery tirade, during which she pounded her fists on the table, called both men “assholes,” pronounced herself an eco-socialist, and stormed away only to return and continue the one-sided shouting match. “Capitalism is destroying the world!” she proclaimed. A hipster at a nearby table responded by suggesting that Hoffmann “move to the Middle East, where they stone you to death for your beliefs.” Hoffmann’s rep says that the actress was merely “urging them to vote Democrat.” The objects of her “urging” received free drinks from a sympathetic waitress.

Wow, two people are just talking about voting Republican get harassed and yelled at for it! What about their first amendment rights? This nut pounds her fists, and calls them assholes! But as you see, she is underemployed, hmmm must be societies fault :wink: :roll:

Schadenfrau
February 3rd, 2004, 05:08 PM
Yikes.

Ninjahedge
February 3rd, 2004, 05:46 PM
They are SO stupid they can't even get their racial epithets right. I believe Cho is chinese, correct?

It just goes to prove that some of these people that are proud to say "I am from the south and proud of it" are as bad as their stereotypes say they are.

In a similar move, people like that obnoxious table thumper should also have their tubes snipped, glands removed and lips sewn shut.


You are so stupid you don't even know her race.

Now YOU are being prejudiced against the south. God forbid someone would use an Asian stereotype you would harass them, but a southern stereotype fits perfectly. You just generalized that proud southerners fit a stereotype. In case you didn't notice, your rants are just as bad as his. Just because you are on an opposing political side, you claim his are worse.

Hmm, now you are supporting torture to all southerners who speak their mind? Or just those that you don't agree with should be tortured? Maybe you can move to Iraq and live under saddam, his regime would fit you well if you don't want political debate and if you support torture. Oh, wait, saddam is no longer in power :D. Now I know why you didnt support the war. You just love those regimes where they torture people with different opinions.

Um, FT, relax and take your Wheaties. The "southerners" I am referring to ARE the ones that are yelling insults at people. "they" meaning the ones casting insults "are as bad as their stereotypes say they are".

A sure sign that someone is oversensitive is when they perceive nastiness in everything someone posts by reading it in their own voice.

As for Margret, sorry, I do not follow her life story. But my association still stands. It does not matter to me WHAT race she is. All I am saying is that the stereotypes that were used by these "southern gentlemen" did not even fit any ONE Asian race. They used Vietnamese and Japanese stereotypes to describe her. That in itself shows how little they know.

As for them typifying all southern men, you are putting words in my mouth.

As for the connection to Iraq, wow, you must be a Republican. Time to start bringing up your defense of these racist individuals that YOU implied are representative of their demographic are somehow being wrongly accused.

Hmm, torture? Nice wording there. I wonder where you got that one from. Geez, for a guy that is supposed to care about things, you sure have a lot of hate under that collar.

Now keep it nice and TRY not to insult the other posters here. Try not to impose your own perceptions of bias on everybody elses words and maybe you will get people to converse with you rather than argue. If not, so be it, just don't expect to get any kind of meaningful discourse.

ZippyTheChimp
February 3rd, 2004, 06:17 PM
FT:

You have so completely polarized your own political worldview, that you can only think in terms of Republican and Democrat, liberal and conservative, black and white. That is the reason you seem to take personal offense at any negative opinions aimed at people or groups that may share all or some of your views.

If you wish to defend those that are being attacked, go right ahead; but that does not include those making the comments.

Short menu (pick only one):
a. Behave
b. Shutup

Freedom Tower
February 4th, 2004, 06:40 AM
This is the torture I was referring to:

[quote="Ninjahedge"]
In a similar move, people like that obnoxious table thumper should also have their tubes snipped, glands removed and lips sewn shut.
quote]

If that isn't torture, I'm dreaming. I just find it wrong that you would think to do that to anyone for having certain opinions.

As for behaving, I consider myself behaved. But if behaving means not yelling at someone who I believe is generalizing about a group, asian, southerner, whatever, well from now on I'll be a little more careful about my reply. My goal of those posts wasn't getting everyone angry, simply showing you that racism works both ways.

ZippyTheChimp
February 4th, 2004, 08:00 AM
Your first entries in this thread:

Maroualle, YOU are just as bad as the person who sent those emails, if not worse

You are so stupid you dont even know her race.
Just avoid statements like the above.

maroualle
February 4th, 2004, 09:55 AM
(Thanks Moby for the tip)




The plain fact is that you are saying all conservatives are bad. That is a lie. You say you are ashamed they are in America, yet some of them were born here, while you were not. I dont move to belgium and then say im ashamed liberals live in that country. Heck, I believe nowadays an American would be trampled to death for doing such a thing. Europeans are becoming increasingly affected by al-jazeera like propoganda.


Listen, i think there is a misunderstanding here: first of all: i will never say something about you and the good people in the USA...Did i say that all conservatives are bad? Please tell me where: even the title of the thread was copy/paste from Moby...

I don't give a flying **** about right or left wing: i don't even know the real difference between both.....i just wanted to share all those mails with you, guy's.

If you took the time to read other threads that i've written you would understand the way i feel about the USA and about US citizens.

Ok now?

maroualle
February 4th, 2004, 09:56 AM
(Thanks Moby for the tip)

this is part 2 of some of the hate mail that margaret cho received.
i'm disgusted to share the same country with these hateful, racist people.
please remember that this is, without question, the true face of the right-wing in america.
moby



THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS, DAMNED!!!!!!!!! IT'S JUST A COPY/PASTE

NYatKNIGHT
February 4th, 2004, 10:16 AM
Maroualle, that was obvious to everyone else.

maroualle
February 4th, 2004, 10:23 AM
Maroualle, that was obvious to everyone else.

I really hope, man, i don't want to give a bad impression.....This forum is made for NY addicted (and US in general).

Schadenfrau
February 4th, 2004, 10:27 AM
But if behaving means not yelling at someone who I believe is generalizing about a group, asian, southerner, whatever, well from now on I'll be a little more careful about my reply.

You're not yelling at anyone. You're typing away on the internet.

Ninjahedge
February 4th, 2004, 11:02 AM
This is the torture I was referring to:



In a similar move, people like that obnoxious table thumper should also have their tubes snipped, glands removed and lips sewn shut.


If that isn't torture, I'm dreaming. I just find it wrong that you would think to do that to anyone for having certain opinions.

As for behaving, I consider myself behaved. But if behaving means not yelling at someone who I believe is generalizing about a group, asian, southerner, whatever, well from now on I'll be a little more careful about my reply. My goal of those posts wasn't getting everyone angry, simply showing you that racism works both ways.

Um, you missed the point. The guys that were being referred to were not the ones making racial generalizations. The way I read it was that two republicans were talking at a table about some issue. No inferrence to race or gender or ANYTHING non PC was alluded to or referenced in that exerpt. But the lady mentioned did not agree with what they were saying, took it apon herself to get up, yell, accost and try to force her opinion on thes people.

If she was in a conversation with these gentlemen in the first place, maybe she would be entitled to this kind of discourse, but as I get it, she wanted to be heard and vent her collected anger at a perception of a group that she differs with.

She is being as obnoxious and intolerant as the racist individuals that were slamming Cho. As such, the castration/sterolization I perscribed for those individuals holds for her as well.

The lips sewn shut was a remark intended to convey my distaste of someone spreading hate in the name of tolerance and their own opinion. I did not say "they should not use anesthesia, pour lemon juice on them and then be forced to listen to David Hasselhoff and John Tesh sing the blues for 9 hours strait while sitting in a room with her eyes forced open ala Clockwork Orange and forced to watch scenes depicting the loosing contestants on American Idol interspersed with various infomercials.

So, like I said, relax. Or just change your name from "Freedom Tower" to "Mr Friendly". At least some of us could appreciate the irony then....

;)

Freedom Tower
February 4th, 2004, 03:38 PM
My apologies, Maroualle. I thought you were telling all the right-wingers such as myself to leave the country :lol:. Also, Zippy, I will try not to get so offensive. I didn't realize how bad my comments were until I re-read them. And Ninjahege, if the FT turns out the way it looks like it will, I will seriously consider that name change :wink:.

maroualle
February 5th, 2004, 02:21 AM
Ok, let's roll and smoke a bow together to forget this ....peace out!

Ptarmigan
March 14th, 2004, 01:04 AM
Margaret Cho is a Korean-American.

I am Korean and I find Margaret Cho not funny and a total idiot. I saw her show All American Girl and it sucked. I am glad they canned it. She does not represent Koreans. :x :x