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ZippyTheChimp
March 28th, 2004, 05:49 PM
What do all these photos have in common?

http://www.pbase.com/image/27375416.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/27375466.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/27375547.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/26812277.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/27375706.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/27375741.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/25990783.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/27375768.jpg

Gulcrapek
March 28th, 2004, 05:55 PM
They all have people carvings...?

TLOZ Link5
March 28th, 2004, 06:10 PM
They all have statues.

ZippyTheChimp
March 28th, 2004, 06:16 PM
Weisenheimers.

Beyond the obvious.

Gulcrapek
March 28th, 2004, 06:18 PM
They all have buildings with stone facades.

But really, what are we supposed to be looking for?

TLOZ Link5
March 28th, 2004, 06:19 PM
all of them have statues of women.

Kris
March 28th, 2004, 06:24 PM
All allegories as opposed to historic figures?

VictorG
March 28th, 2004, 06:25 PM
Sculptures are bronze.

ZippyTheChimp
March 28th, 2004, 06:32 PM
The figures are allegorical, but their relationship is historical.

They are not all bronze.

Jasonik
March 28th, 2004, 07:30 PM
All are in memoriam?

ZippyTheChimp
March 28th, 2004, 07:56 PM
Not all.

wrestlcub
March 28th, 2004, 11:00 PM
They are all McKim Mead and White designs?

ZippyTheChimp
March 28th, 2004, 11:51 PM
No, McKim Mead & White only designed one, but you're on the right track.

TLOZ Link5
March 29th, 2004, 12:31 AM
Do they all commemorate events which took place in 1898?

The Maine Memorial near Columbus Circle, the statue symbolizing Consolidation of Greater New York atop the Municipal Building, etc.?

ZippyTheChimp
March 29th, 2004, 06:07 AM
Photos 5, 6 and 8 are all you need.

Jasonik
March 29th, 2004, 08:58 AM
They are all public property?
All designers trained at École des Beaux-Arts?

NYatKNIGHT
March 29th, 2004, 12:50 PM
Sculpture by Adolph A. Weinman?

fioco
March 29th, 2004, 02:54 PM
WOW! Someone's gonna win a big prize. Until the winner is announced, here's something to get you by . . .
http://images.collectors.com/Articles/weinman2.jpg

Jasonik
March 29th, 2004, 04:54 PM
Do (did) they have gilding in common?

ZippyTheChimp
March 29th, 2004, 05:09 PM
Fioco knows the answer, but his "Mercury Dime" clue is incorrect. By the way, the coin should really be called the "Winged Liberty Dime."

Jasonik
March 29th, 2004, 05:42 PM
Liberty Coins (http://www.libertyhaven.com/regulationandpropertyrights/bankingmoneyorfinance/endliberty.shtml)

fioco
March 29th, 2004, 08:07 PM
Zippy, I'd say go to the front of the class, but you're already there and proving to be a worthy teacher. I humbly accept your astute correction. Here's my mea culpa:
http://www.coincentric.com/Images/MercuryDimes_10.jpg

WARNING: Spoiler. Background on coin Click here (http://www.coincentric.com/MercuryDimes.htm)

TLOZ Link5
March 30th, 2004, 12:45 AM
They used the same woman as the model for the head?

I think it was a famous poet's wife; either Philip Larkin or Wallace Stevens.

ZippyTheChimp
March 30th, 2004, 07:05 AM
I took the photos of the Fireman's Memorial and the Strauss Memorial on the same day. I noticed the similarity in the faces, and since they are in the same neighborhood (100 St & Riverside Dr, 107 St & Broadway), maybe the model was someone famous from the area.

A Google search turned up the name Audrey Munson, who I suppose was America's first supermodel. She posed for all the statues in the photos, and according to the book review, many others - NYPL, Brooklyn Museum of Art.

I also found the link that stated that Audrey Munson was the model for the Liberty Dime, but coin collector sites all agreed that the coin model was Elsie Stevens.

Reviews of the Audrey Munson book, American Venus:
http://www.balconypress.com/html/venus.html
http://www.januarymagazine.com/biography/amvenus.html

More info:
http://jschumacher.typepad.com/audrey_munson/

She was rediscovered by a neice who was doing research on her famous dead aunt, and found out she was very much alive.

NYatKNIGHT
March 30th, 2004, 10:14 AM
That is so interesting - thanks!

Good thread, Zippy.

NYR2B
March 30th, 2004, 10:49 AM
Here's a brief bio on Audrey Munson:

Audrey Munson, the “Exposition Girl”

At the height of her fame, Audrey Munson's face — along with the rest of her shapely body— was easily recognizable to a vast number of Americans, especially American males over the age of 12. Until her parents’ divorce when she was 15, she lived in Providence, Rhode Island, where she had lessons in music and dance. After her parents’ divorce, Audrey's mother moved her comely teenage daughter to New York City, which appears to have been a very strategic decision. As Audrey told the story in a series of newspaper articles devoted to her career as an artist’s model, it wasn't long before she was “discovered.”

“Mother and I were walking downtown shopping. A man kept following me and annoying me, not by anything he said but by looking at me.... finally Mother stopped, turned to him and asked him what he wanted. He explained... that he was a photographer and said my face was one he longed to photograph. He asked mother if she would not bring me to his studio.... We went; he took many pictures. Then he called one day and asked if he might show them to an artist friend.... the artist then asked me to pose, and that was the beginning.”

All this occurred in 1906 before Audrey had reached her sixteenth birthday. The photographer’s “artist friend” who wanted her to pose for him was the Hungarian born sculptor Isidor Konti. With her mother in attendance, she was persuaded to pose nude for a sculptural composition that Konti was preparing to start work on. The result of this collaboration was his beautiful Three Graces which became the focal point for the lobby of the luxurious Hotel Astor in New York City. Audrey later referred to this work as "a souvenir of my mother's consent", but one suspects that her mother actually promoted the idea of her under age daughter posing in the nude rather than merely acquiescing to Konti’s proposal.

In the years leading up to the Panama Pacific International Exposition of 1915, Audrey became the Queen of the Artist’s Studios finding work with most of the sculptors and many of the painters at work in New York City. As a result of having posed for more than 75% of the female figures sculpted to decorate the PPIE as well as for a majority of the women appearing in its mural decorations, Audrey Munson was christened The Exposition Girl.

She managed to parlay this popularity into a short lived film career becoming the first women to shed her clothes (tastefully, of course) on screen. This landmark event took place in 1915 in the aptly titled, Inspiration which opened at the Portola Theatre in San Francisco during the waning days of the Exposition. Before her silent film career ended in 1920, she found reasons to get undressed in three more movies said to be completely unmemorable except for her delectable nude body.

In 1919, her name became inextricably linked to a murder scandal. Dr. Walter Wilkins, a former landlord who had developed a fixation on the lovely young woman, bludgeoned his wife to death in order, he claimed, to be free to marry Audrey. Though Audrey stated she new nothing of his intentions the fact that the murdered woman had ordered Audrey and her mother out of the Manhattan apartment they were renting from the Wilkins several weeks before the murder, raised a question of impropriety which was played up by the yellow press. Though Audrey and her mother were immediately cleared of any involvement, the negative press which the affair generated had a devastating affect on Audrey’s career. Many of her former employers chose to look elsewhere for a model rather than run the risk of having their reputations damaged by having their names associated with hers. This, together with the decline in popularity of the Beaux Arts style of representational sculpture, combined to end Audrey’s career, and by the fall of 1920 she and her mother, Katherine, were living in abject poverty in Syracuse, New York.

Over the next ten years, Audrey made repeated attempts to resurrect her career as actress and model with little success. In 1921, she reaped some financial reward by having her life as a studio model told in a popular series of 20 “ghost written” articles syndicated in the “Sunday Supplements”of many U.S. newspapers. Later, she achieved a questionable notoriety by announcing she was searching for the “perfect male” who, when found, she would consider marrying. Her detailed specifications were carried by papers throughout the country, and some 209 respondents applied for consideration.

Perhaps as a result of this publicity stunt, in April 1922 the Syracuse Herald announced that Audrey was engaged and would wed in June. The lucky fellow was said to be a “former aviator” by the name of Stevenson hailing from Ann Arbor, Michigan. However, the marriage never took place, and, when Audrey attempted poisoning herself a month after this announcement appeared in the papers, all attempts at locating this fanciful fiance failed. The circumstances surrounding Audrey’s purported engagement and suicide were sufficiently questionable to alienate still further an already disenchanted press corps who were quick to label the entire incident a calculated ruse to generate cheap publicity.

After this incident, Audrey’s behavior became increasingly erratic, so much so that the residents of the tiny hamlet of Mexico, New York where she and her mother were residing took to referring to her as “Crazy Audrey”. By 1931, her “nervous disorder” had reduced her mental faculties to such a degree that a local judge ruled that she was suffering from “mental blight” and ordered her into a treatment program. A short time after this decision was rendered, her mother took Audrey to a state run psychiatric facility located a hundred miles from their residence and had her committed. Audrey, who was just 39 years old at the time, would spend the next 65 years of her life at the institution dying in 1996 at the astounding age of 105.

Happily, several years before Audrey’s death, her niece, wanting to lift the vail of secrecy which her family had wrapped around the life of her “Aunt Aud”, decided to discover what she could about her life. Early in this investigation, she learned, to her great surprise, that the Aunt she had presumed dead was still alive. Shortly after this discovery a family reunion was arranged at the psychiatric facility where Audrey resided. To their amazement, the family found that the still striking white haired women who stood before them bore none of the ravages one might expect to see in someone who had spent over 55 years in a mental institution. She needed no medication, was quiet and self effacing, showed no sign of bitterness or resentment, and was considered by the staff to be their “resident celebrity”.

To learn more about the life of Audrey Munson please refer to Diane Rozas’ and Anita Bourne Gottehrer’s, American Venus, The Extraordinary Life of Audrey Munson Model and Muse from which much of the information in this brief biography was garnered.

http://www.remnantsofadream.com/pages/appendix_5.html

marky4
August 5th, 2006, 02:47 AM
All statues posed by Audrey Munson, America's Venus.

ablarc
August 5th, 2006, 08:51 AM
Amazing and tragic story.

Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.

Give here of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.

lofter1
August 5th, 2006, 11:46 AM
Audrey Munson, Model and Muse ...


Audrey Munson posed for this figure Fountain of the Setting Sun by Weinman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolph_Alexander_Weinman):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/94/DescendingNightAAW.jpg


Fountain of the Setting Sun, Truth, on the base:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/FountainoftheSetting_SunAAW.jpg


Star, or Star Maiden (1915) by A S Calder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Stirling_Calder):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5e/StarASC.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5e/StarASC.jpg)


Autumn

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8b/AutumnFP.jpg


On Film ...

Audrey Munson in the film Purity (1916):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/AudreyMunsonPurity2.jpg


Audrey Munson in the film Heedless Moths (1921):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/AudreyMunsonHeedlessMoths2..jpg

lofter1
August 5th, 2006, 11:52 AM
Audrey Munson as Madame Butterfly above the Proscenium Arch in the New Amsterdam Theater on 42nd St.

A G Wenzel (1913) ...

http://www.evergreene.com/restoratgallery/images/NewAmsterdam.jpg

Before / After Renovation photos from http://web.bvu.edu/faculty/whitlatch/42nd/amsterdam_pictures.htm

http://web.bvu.edu/faculty/whitlatch/42nd/pictures/amsterdam%20auditorium1.jpg

http://web.bvu.edu/faculty/whitlatch/42nd/pictures/amsterdam%20auditorium2.jpg

Matte__86
August 5th, 2006, 11:54 AM
B00bies!:D

redhot00
March 23rd, 2008, 08:40 AM
An Ode to the Artist's Model: In Search of Audrey Munson By Popular Request!

Join Justin Ferate on the quest to discover the secrets of Audrey Munson!
http://us.f505.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download/us/ShowLetter?box=Inbox&MsgId=4340_4036473_155090_2354_78297_0_107089_1215 13_839252082&bodyPart=2&YY=31936&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&Idx=0
Audrey Munson was once called "The most perfect, most versatile, most famous of American models, whose face and figure have inspired thousands of modern masterpieces of sculpture and painting." This was not an exaggeration. Audrey Munson has been depicted throughout the United States, but can especially be seen in numerous monuments throughout Manhattan.

Audrey Munson can be seen as - to cite just a few examples - "Civic Fame" atop the Municipal Building, "America" in front of the Bowling Green Customs House, "Peace" atop the New York State Appellate Court House at Madison Square, "Beauty" on the facade of the New York Public Library, and "Pomona" - the goddess of abundance, atop the fountain by the Plaza Hotel, overlooking Central Park. Audrey Munson also was the model for the "Mercury" dime and the "Walking Liberty" half-dollar. Some researchers indicate that, at one time, more than thirty artworks in the collection of the Metropolitan Museum were in Audrey Munson's image.

Audrey Munson's success was not based solely on her elegant figure. She was noted for her uncanny ability to physically convey intellectual concepts through her artistic poses. This ultimately made her the model of choice for America's most noted Beaux Arts artists, including (among many others) Daniel Chester French, Adolph Weinman, Alexander Stirling Calder, Frederick MacMonnies, Augustus Lukeman, Attilio Piccirilli, and Gertrude Vanderbilt Whitney.

In 1915, A. Stirling Calder selected Audrey Munson as the leading model for the sculpture at the San Francisco's Panama-Pacific International Exposition. She ended up posing for seventy-five percent of all the female-figure works at the Exposition!

Audrey Munson became a national celebrity and was quoted in newspaper interviews opining on covering the body: "Clothes we began to wear only when guile and evil thoughts entered our heads.... They do harm to our bodies and worse to our souls." Regarding the evils of exercise, Audrey Munson advised: "You can't be both athletic and beautiful! Eschew all athletic exercises!"

Audrey Munson's fame and "exposure" led to a short career in the cinema where she became the first person to appear nude in a widely distributed film. Her initial film, "Inspiration," depicted poses from famous works of art, which was a good way of circumventing the censors, who feared they would be obliged to advocate the closure of all museums if they banned her film.

Learn more about the history of this important artist's model and discover some of the Manhattan visages of a woman who could once have readily been called, "America's most famous beauty."

This will be a subway tour. Please bring your MetroCard!

Date: Saturday April 26, 2008
Time: 1:00 PM to approximately 4:00 PM
Cost: $20, Payable on Site
Meet: Steps of the Museum of the American Indian / former U. S. Customs House Located at #1 Bowling Green, adjacent to the northeast
corner of Battery Park. Look for the large white neoclassical building with impressive statuary. (Restrooms inside)
Train: 1 to South Ferry | 4/5 to Bowling Green
R/W to Whitehall | J to Broad Street

jrmolo
March 21st, 2009, 10:09 AM
They all have Audrey Munson as the model in them

jrmolo
March 21st, 2009, 10:13 AM
They all have Audrey Munson in the scupltures