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acplayer
June 24th, 2009, 02:19 AM
I thought some of you might enjoy this look back at Atlantic City in it's heyday in this 1951 travel movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG6R2V9X3ks

Intheknow
June 25th, 2009, 08:49 PM
The difference from 1951 to now is as plain as black and white.

stache
July 28th, 2009, 08:50 AM
I took the new train to AC last week. The train was pretty empty. The cars are the new NJT double deckers with better seating. It stops in Newark in order to switch to diesel. The pedestrian access to the new segment of the Walk is absolutely horrible. To me there's no reason to go to AC very often.

block944
August 1st, 2009, 10:34 PM
I took the new train to AC last week. The train was pretty empty. The cars are the new NJT double deckers with better seating. It stops in Newark in order to switch to diesel. The pedestrian access to the new segment of the Walk is absolutely horrible. To me there's no reason to go to AC very often.


I rode it was well, how horrible and stupid I wish I could of taken a bus back instead of zig zagging back up for over 2 hours. The should of completed the river line down to AC instead of this garbage.

Intheknow
August 5th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Development news!!!! The CRDA is spending $25,000,000 for a new parking garage!!!! WTF. How stupid and corrupt are these people. Atlantic City, continuing to under perform and over spend. Excuse me while I go throw - up. I do think AC will rebound despite the ineptitude of everyone currently involved (Gov., Casino execs, thug populace etc..)

block944
August 20th, 2009, 09:41 AM
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/08/atlantic_city_casino_profits_d.html
Atlantic City casino profits down 19.8 percent in second quarter

by The Star-Ledger Continuous News Desk Thursday August 20, 2009, 6:19 AM


ATLANTIC CITY -- Casino profits in the second quarter of 2009 fell 19.8 percent compared with the same period last year in the city, a report (http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/business/press/article_fbc67a5c-8cef-11de-bcd6-001cc4c002e0.html) in the Press of Atlantic City said.
According to figures released Wednesday by the state Casino Control Commission, gross operating profits totaled $198.4 million for April to June, compared with last year's $247.3 million, the report said. One casino, Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa, reported an increase in profits, while eight other resort casinos stayed in the black. Losses were reported by two casinos, the Atlantic City Hilton Casino Resort and Resorts Atlantic City, the report said.
http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/2009/08/large_Resorts%20Handover.JPGMel Evans/The Associated PressResorts Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City. City casino profits in the second quarter of 2009 fell 19.8 percent compared with the same period last year
The loss in profits stems from a recession that has discouraged discretionary spending as well as newer slot parlors in Pennsylvania, the report said.



AC is done. If not now then definitely when the Meadowlands and Monmouth get their wishes. FACT! Who the hell wants to drive down there to lose money whe you will be able to drive 15 minutes. Oh, did I mention that the being in the middle of a ghetto never helped the situation either.

66nexus
August 20th, 2009, 05:29 PM
That's a testament to AC's dependency on gaming profits. Vegas is suffering from lost gaming revenue but it has much more in the way of non-gaming entertainment.

I definitely don't think AC is done overall(Borgata still raking in), however, the city should already be weaning itself off the gaming teat.

block944
August 20th, 2009, 09:06 PM
Second homes: Bet on getting an affordable beach home in Atlantic City ATLANTIC CITYhttp://images.usatoday.com/_common/_images/clear.gifBest for: Those who want a classic beach community but also enjoy gaming and entertainment.
Claim to fame: Monopoly was based on Atlantic City properties such as Boardwalk, Ventnor and Atlantic avenues.
Don't miss: Steel Pier, opened in 1898 as "The Showplace of the Nation," reopened in 1993 as a traditional oceanfront amusement pier.
Getting there: Atlantic City Airport is served by Spirit and AirTran. The ACES train serves Newark Airport and NYC's Penn Station.



By Larry Olmsted (http://www.usatoday.com/community/tags/reporter.aspx?id=1026), Special for USA TODAY
Before World War II, Atlantic City (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Places,+Geography/Towns,+Cities,+Counties/Atlantic+City) was one of the nation's most popular oceanfront resorts, on par with Miami (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Places,+Geography/Towns,+Cities,+Counties/Miami) Beach. When its fortunes declined, the city became the first U.S. locale outside Nevada to allow casinos.
The original Atlantic City casinos were self-contained and did little to revive their surroundings. But now, development has spread across downtown with two new retail and dining complexes: the Walk near the convention center and the 300,000-square-foot Pier Shops at Caesars.

ARCHIVE: Find more second-home destinations (http://www.usatoday.com/community/tags/topic.aspx?req=ssts&pg=1&tag=secondhomes%5Edestinations%5Etravel)
In the city's suddenly hot south end, four casino resorts are under construction, along with Bella, a new residential high-rise condo building. Other recent condo projects include the Ocean Club, Tannen Towers and a conversion of the old Ritz-Carlton (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Organizations/Companies/Transportation,+Travel,+Hospitality/Hotels/Ritz-Carlton) hotel. Studios can be had in the low $100,000s, but most new condos start at $200,000 to $300,000.
Other recent developments include two non-gaming hotels, The Chelsea and The Water Club at the Borgata Hotel, Casino & Spa, reflecting the city's new objective to be a dining and entertainment destination. The latest major improvement was the launch in February of the Atlantic City Express Service (ACES) train, a direct connection to Newark (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Places,+Geography/Towns,+Cities,+Counties/Newark) Airport and New York City (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Places,+Geography/States,+Territories,+Provinces,+Islands/U.S.+States/New+York).
FIND MORE STORIES IN: New York (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Places,+Geography/States,+Territories,+Provinces,+Islands/U.S.+States/New+York) | Miami (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Places,+Geography/Towns,+Cities,+Counties/Miami) | Newark (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Places,+Geography/Towns,+Cities,+Counties/Newark) | Atlantic City (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Places,+Geography/Towns,+Cities,+Counties/Atlantic+City) | Ritz-Carlton (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Organizations/Companies/Transportation,+Travel,+Hospitality/Hotels/Ritz-Carlton)
Atlantic City occupies the north end of Absecon Island, which also includes the villages of Margate, Ventnor and Longport. It's just a 20-minute drive from one end to the other, and most second homes offer attractions within walking distance.
Outside downtown, homes are large for a resort town. "It's the last frontier of the Northeast where you can still buy affordable vacation homes on the beach or a block away. Most second-home owners spend $300,000 to $700,000," says real estate agent Mark Arbeit of Prudential Fox & Roach.
Arbeit cites the location — an hour from Philadelphia, two from New York — as a major draw.
"New Yorkers (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Places,+Geography/States,+Territories,+Provinces,+Islands/U.S.+States/New+York) are sick of traveling all the way to the Hamptons and spending millions for beach homes," Arbeit says. "There is world-class entertainment (here), thanks to the casinos, restaurants, spas, nightclubs. It's affordable, and almost everything on the island is close to the beach."
A look at three Absecon Island neighborhoods
•Atlantic City: For second-home owners, the place to be is the south end of the city, especially the Lower Chelsea neighborhood, says Realtor Mark Arbeit. "It's the most residential, (with) estates and large beach homes. As you go north, it becomes much denser and more of a commercial city." New condos begin at about $235,000; four-bedroom houses are around $370,000.
•Ventnor: Just south of Atlantic City, Ventnor also has a boardwalk. Here, it extends from the main casino and entertainment strip. "The island is narrower here, just three blocks from beach to bay, so everything is close to the water," Arbeit says. Older condos can be found for around $200,000, new luxury townhouse condos start at about $450,000, and single-family houses begin around $300,000. The most desirable section is St. Leonard's Tract, nine blocks of grand homes on large lots.
•Margate/Longport: While Ventnor is an extension of Atlantic City, Margate has its own town center with restaurants and shops. Prices run just a bit higher than in Ventnor, Arbeit says. On the island's southern end, Longport is residential and the most expensive. Almost all homes are on the beach or bay, and there are few condos. Single-family houses begin at $800,000, but many are in the $2 million-$3 million range.





http://i.usatoday.net/travel/_photos/2009/08/21/house1.jpg Courtesy of T. Mitch Tannehill, Mark Arbeit and Co.

http://i.usatoday.net/travel/_photos/2009/08/21/house2.jpg Courtesy of T. Mitch Tannehill, Mark Arbeit and Co.

ON THE MARKET


High price: $739,000



This home is in Ventnor's desirable St. Leonard's Tract neighborhood, two blocks from the beach.
Bedrooms: 6
Bathrooms: 2 + 2 half-baths
Size: 2,783 square feet
Features: Large living room with fireplace, formal dining room, library, master bedroom with fireplace, porch and enclosed sunroom, hardwood floors, large fenced yard, full basement and detached garage.


Midrange price: $399,000



This new condo conversion is in Margate, two blocks from the beach, shops and restaurants. There are no condo or homeowners' association fees.
Bedrooms: 2
Bathrooms: 2
Size: 745 square feet
Features: Large deck with panoramic views, open kitchen with stainless steel appliances, granite counters and custom cabinets, hardwood and granite tile floors, parking spot and storage unit included.

Intheknow
August 26th, 2009, 06:10 PM
The only thing that can save this "City" and housing prices is if the gay community starts moving in. Come October 1st this city will be a ghost town, and it's really slow now, in August! It's become a one night town -Saturday's. That ain't going to pay the bills.

stache
August 26th, 2009, 08:56 PM
I don't see the gays colonizing this. It's in the middle if nowhere, and there is already Asbury Pk. & Rehoboth, plus New Hope.

lofter1
August 26th, 2009, 11:56 PM
is there anything old left of any possible quality & concentration that could be spiffed up?

or did they already tear down all that?

stache
August 27th, 2009, 01:43 AM
Just the old part of Claridge's, and a lot of Victorian/Edwardian housing, that nobody cares about.

Intheknow
August 29th, 2009, 06:40 PM
Harrah's announced today a new marketing campaign, "Gay friendly". This should be a good indicator on any "gay revitalization" of AC. I think the Chelsea Hotel courts the gay community also, for whatever that's worth.

block944
September 3rd, 2009, 10:14 AM
Here comes the pinch folks!

Atlantic City casino owners seek wage freeze

by The Associated Press Thursday September 03, 2009, 8:38 AM


http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/2009/09/medium_tropicana-casino.JPGMel Evans/The Associated PressTropicana Casino in Atlantic City
ATLANTIC CITY -- Three Atlantic City casinos owners are proposing wage freezes for waiters, bartenders, housekeepers and dishwashers as contract negotiations begin.
Harrah's, Trump Entertainment and Tropicana made presentations to Local 54 of UNITE-HERE on Wednesday.
The companies, which own eight of the city's 11 casinos, are asking for three-year contracts.
Local 54 President Bob McDevitt said he understands why the casinos are asking for wage freezes.
An economic downturn and added competition in Pennsylvania have taken a toll on casino revenue.
The union represents about 15,000 workers whose five-year contract expires Sept. 15.

block944
September 3rd, 2009, 10:15 AM
I don't see the gays colonizing this. It's in the middle if nowhere, and there is already Asbury Pk. & Rehoboth, plus New Hope.

I think thats why the gays would come, so they can do their own thing away from everyone else

Fabrizio
September 3rd, 2009, 10:25 AM
If today's AC were in the condition that it was in the mid-1970's, the gays would go there and restore the old homes in Chelsea and create a cool neighborhood... maybe take over some of the mid-town beach blocks like St. James place (as they had already done in the late 60's and early 70's with NewYork Avenue).

Those old row houses were perfect for bed&breakfasts... nice restaurants and boutiques. Maybe a Curtis Bradshaw would have restored the Blenhiem.

But today there's nothing left in AC that the gays would care about: everything quaint, historic, significant has been bulldozed.

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BTW: that photo up above showing Resorts International is pretty funny... and clever. It gives the impression that the hotels are both along the beach... what with the water in front. But actually that's a flooded vacant lot... it's not the ocean. The photographer took some of AC's notorious urban blight and made lemonade.

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block944
September 3rd, 2009, 01:19 PM
If today's AC were in the condition that it was in the mid-1970's, the gays would go there and restore the old homes in Chelsea and create a cool neighborhood... maybe take over some of the mid-town beach blocks like St. James place (as they had already done in the late 60's and early 70's with NewYork Avenue).

Those old row houses were perfect for bed&breakfasts... nice restaurants and boutiques. Maybe a Curtis Bradshaw would have restored the Blenhiem.

But today there's nothing left in AC that the gays would care about: everything quaint, historic, significant has been bulldozed.

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BTW: that photo up above showing Resorts International is pretty funny... and clever. It gives the impression that the hotels are both along the beach... what with the water in front. But actually that's a flooded vacant lot... it's not the ocean. The photographer took some of AC's notorious urban blight and made lemonade.

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in AC nothing is what it seems....

block944
September 3rd, 2009, 03:57 PM
Former Atlantic City mayoral candidate, 13 campaign workers indicted in vote fraud scheme

by The Associated Press Thursday September 03, 2009, 3:45 PM


TRENTON -- A former Atlantic City mayoral candidate and 13 campaign workers have been indicted in a vote fraud scheme.
New Jersey Attorney General Anne Milgram announced the indictments today against City Councilman Marty Small and the others.
http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/2009/08/large_attorney-general-anne-milgram.JPGSaed Hindash/The Star-LedgerAttorney General Anne Milgram during a news conference on Aug. 26, 2009.
They are accused of conspiring to submit fraudulent absentee ballots.
Small was trounced in the city's June Democratic primary by incumbent Mayor Lorenzo Langford.
The charges involve use of messenger ballots, a type of absentee ballot designed for those too sick or frail to make it to the polls. Designated messengers pick up the ballots at county election offices, take them to voters and return them to election officials once completed.
A telephone message left for Small was not immediately returned today.

stache
September 3rd, 2009, 04:32 PM
I think thats why the gays would come, so they can do their own thing away from everyone else

I understand your point, but they recently did that in Asbury Park for the same reason.

Intheknow
September 8th, 2009, 06:52 PM
Stephen Starr has cut ties with the Chelsea Hotel today. This hurts.

Intheknow
September 10th, 2009, 08:39 AM
Revel has obtained financing to finish project by 2011!!! A Chinese group will assume 51% equity in the project. Finally, some good news. The Chinese should fit right in with the corrupt AC government, there has been a sudden spike in Chinese language courses at the local community college, it appears all AC officials have enrolled. (Article appears in todays on-line Press of AC

stache
September 11th, 2009, 01:08 AM
While not about Atlantic City this article illustrates how another beach town is spiffing up -

By CHARLES ISHERWOOD (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/i/charles_isherwood/index.html?inline=nyt-per)
Published: September 11, 2009


Interactive Map (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/09/11/travel/escapes/20090911-asburypark-interactive.html)



THE past stands vigil over the present in this once-faded beach resort that has been evolving in recent years into a newly appealing summer weekend destination — or a year-round refuge — for an eclectic population.
At one end of the central stretch of boardwalk, the beautiful old convention hall, a gold-brick pile with delicate wedding-cake trim, announces “Greetings From Asbury Park” . The phrase was immortalized by the local boy made good Bruce Springsteen (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/bruce_springsteen/index.html?inline=nyt-per) (he grew up in nearby Freehold), as the title of his debut album back in 1973. At the other end rest the elegant shell of the casino and the carousel building, now sadly empty of carousel, as if the prancing horses had fled for more profitable pastures. (Dancing men moved in temporarily this summer: a production of the musical “Full Monty” from the ReVision Theater was preparing to open in the space when I visited.)
But in between these venerable landmarks much is bustling, busy and almost brand new. A high-end tchotchke emporium called Bodega sells fancy candles and vintage paperbacks with lurid covers in pristine condition. Furniture stores with trendy names like the Posh Den court sun-dazed beachgoers. Stella Marina, a giant, gleaming new trattoria, does frenzied business late into the night, just next door to an upstairs bar, Watermark, that almost looks like a transplant from Manhattan but with soothing views of the moon and stars over a silvered stretch of ocean.
Like many cities and towns poised between decay and regeneration, Asbury Park bewitches with hints of faded charm as well as a growing array of creature comforts. Although it was a popular middle-class summer destination for much of the 20th century, it endured decades of economic decline following race riots in 1970. As is often the case in a town in a process of renewal, gay men and lesbians have a significant presence and deserve considerable credit for the current reawakening.
Today, as it happens, among the most welcoming aspects of Asbury Park is an easygoing embrace of all kinds of visitors and residents. Summer resorts often cater to niches of humanity. Well-heeled Manhattanites, for example, hie to the Hamptons (http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/north-america/united-states/new-york/long-island/the-hamptons/overview.html?inline=nyt-geo). In Fire Island (http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/north-america/united-states/new-york/long-island/fire-island/overview.html?inline=nyt-geo) Pines it is not unusual to encounter a sculptured male beauty shopping for vegetables in a bikini, but a man and woman pushing a stroller along the wooden walkways would be a lot more surprising. On the beach at Asbury Park you cannot even be sure a rainbow-hued umbrella signifies anything. Black and white, gay and straight, child-ridden and child-free: there’s a little of everything, and everyone seems to feel at home.
Evidence of the quickening pace of renewal is hard to miss in these days, notwithstanding the economic tremors of the last year. New establishments pepper Cookman Avenue, a funky retail stretch and a nice place to dawdle away a day of beach fatigue. With its cluttered stores full of mid-century furniture, smartly chosen home collections and vintage clothing, the strip feels a lot like the East Village in the 1980s. The prices also inspire nostalgia for those more economically innocent times. Vintage T-shirts that would run you $50 or more in Manhattan can be had for considerably less at stores like B Unique, a new boutique with a retro-rock feeling.
But there are also “only in New Jersey” novelties. Less than a year old is Paranormal Books and Curiosities, presided over by the amiable proprietor, Kathy Kelly, where you can buy a Ouija board, keep up with the latest in fang lit or sign up for a ghosts and legends walk through the city by night with an emphasis on its haunted history.
Also new is the Silverball Pinball Museum, a big basement rec room where dozens of classic pinball machines are kept in mint working condition.
But anyone with even a vestige of affection for youthful days spent wasting the allowance with Captain Fantastic or whiling away a dull night at the bar trying to beat the top score on the Charlie’s Angels machine won’t be reading about arcade arcana for long.
Nor do the city’s seductive retro amusements stop at pinball. I also bowled for the first time in at least a decade at Asbury Lanes. Hipster alleys are not exactly novel these days in major cities, but this appealingly scruffy hall, in operation since 1961, blends its old-school amenities (skeevy bathroom included) and hipster credentials (a D.J. playing ’80s New Wave) with an authenticity that doesn’t seem strained. Here, you feel, the cool kids inevitably started hanging out because it was one of the few local places that stayed open late and served drinks.
It is now one of the cutting-edge music spots in this music-rich town. A fierce funk-rock band was just concluding its set when a friend and I stepped in to escape the rain on a recent Saturday night. The bandstand is plopped on top of the middle lanes, but you can still bowl in the outer lanes. So we did, even as a nouveau-burlesque show took over the stage. Had I not needed all my wits to avoid the humiliation of repeated gutter balls, I’m sure I would have taken more time to appreciate the dance stylings of Mlles. Gigi LaFemme, Sapphire Jones, Anita Cookie and Sizzle Dizzle.
A lineup of such exotic handles you might almost expect to see on a drag bill at the Paradise club in the Empress Hotel, the great gaudy dowager that forms the centerpiece of gay nightlife in Asbury Park. Located just opposite the boardwalk on Ocean Avenue, this classically undistinguished bit of midcentury hotel architecture turns into a throbbing disco queen at night. Gem-colored lights play across the facade, and the crowd at the Paradise spills out into the pool area, where you can check out the men (and women) while idling on a lounge chair.
Odd juxtapositions — bowling and burlesque, burgers frying beside a pool at a gay bar, a spanking-new condo complex with views of a vacant lot dotted with cement slabs like tombstones — are a hallmark of today’s Asbury Park. The city’s revival may hit a few speed bumps, but it’s comforting to be reminded that the most interesting times are often the least tidy.

Intheknow
September 23rd, 2009, 08:49 AM
Pier Shops owner stops mortgage payments. Taubman Centers Inc, announced it will no longer provide financial support for the Pier. Eerily slow in AC, scary slow.

stache
September 23rd, 2009, 03:02 PM
I can't imagine what possessed many of these vendors to set up shop in AC, even in the go-go era. :confused:

acplayer
September 30th, 2009, 03:27 PM
Why doesn't the city offer people more options than casinos? Bring the piers and families back. Give people a reason to come other than casinos.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acbwsteeplechasecrowd1960s.jpg

stache
September 30th, 2009, 06:55 PM
'Mammy's restaurant'??????????????

Intheknow
October 9th, 2009, 04:05 PM
See any black people in that picture? I wonder if there's any corrolation? Truth and racism are two different things, before you jump all over me.

STT757
October 9th, 2009, 07:34 PM
See any black people in that picture?.

I counted 16.

lofter1
October 9th, 2009, 07:52 PM
Mammy's Restaurant

Info on the china used to serve up waffles and doughnuts at Mammy's (http://www.restaurantwarecollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10174) ...

Manufacturer: Shenango China
User: Mammy's Restaurant
Distributor: Ganger Inc., New York City
Date: 1927-1948

Off-white body with a red band border, topmarked with the Mammy caricature (http://www.ferris.edu/news/jimcrow/mammies/) and the words "MAMMY'S Atlantic City."

Notes:

Mammy's Restaurant was located in Atlantic City at Boardwalk and Pennsylvania Ave. at the entrance to Steeplechase Pier. Elia Lasker Tendler, wife of the famous left-handed boxer Lew Tendler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lew_Tendler), operated Mammy's. The Tendlers also owned Lew Tendler's restaurants in Atlantic City and Philadelphia. Mammy's Restaurant was most famous for donuts and waffles. The boardwalk-facing window allowed people to see the mechanized production of donuts being fried and sugared and then served to patrons in the restaurant or offered as take out. Mammy's served Boscul coffee, a brand which originated in Camden, NJ. The restaurant closed in the late 1970s.

Lew Tendler:

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/tendler-lew-333.jpg

http://www.phillyboxinghistory.com/programs/images/19230723pr.jpg

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Bagfuls of Mammy's matchbooks (http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/mammys-donut-waffle-shop-pennsylvania-avenue) available on eBay ...


This front sticker matchbook is full and unused, no issues,one side advertizes for MAMMY"S delicious waffles and chicken in the basket on the boardwald at steeplechase pier,atlantic city nj.The other side shows LEW TENDLER'S steak house also in atlantic city nj

More on Mammy's AC (http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/mammys-donut-waffle-shop-pennsylvania-avenue)

Seems there was another unrelated Mammy's in Miami Beach (http://www.theblackdahliainhollywood.com/wp-content/uploads/sidebar_pictures/mammys.jpg) ...

http://www.theblackdahliainhollywood.com/wp-content/uploads/sidebar_pictures/mammys.jpg

Mammy's (http://cuban-exile.com/doc_226-250/doc0232.html) 2039 Collins Ave., M.B.

And a little somethin' down in Georgia ...

http://www.smsnoveltiques.com/images/pc-mammy.jpg

http://www.oidar.com/MammysShantyMenu1-400.jpg

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Fabrizio
October 9th, 2009, 08:26 PM
I remember Mammy's and the donut machine... my friend Ethel and I got a job there one summer.

no... not really, but I do remember Mammy's.

In that photo up above there's also an ad for Zaberers, a big fancy restaurant out on the pike, where they flambèd everything.
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You can also see the General Motors Exibit sign above the Steel Pier on the left. As a kid it was my favorite place in AC. I would convince the guy to give me brochures... "my dad sent me".

And Paul Anka was at the Pier. Or Paula Abdul. I can't quite make it out from here.

The photo looks like this would have been 1965-ish but AC looked pretty much like this through to the mid 70's.

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Intheknow
October 9th, 2009, 09:45 PM
Notice the ferris wheel(s), plants, shrubs, you know things that enhance the scenery. What do we have now?

Instead of Mammy's we have PF Changs, Phillips, Burger King....... crap you'll find in any generic city.

The 16 blacks you counted were the Harlem Globetrotters, see the promo to the right of Schmidts sign.

hbraithw
October 14th, 2009, 08:53 AM
See any black people in that picture? I wonder if there's any corrolation? Truth and racism are two different things, before you jump all over me.

Wow! Burn any crosses lately, intheknow? You're really ignorant. White supremacy is very ugly and needs to be eradicated. You're skin color does not make you better than anyone. In God's eyes we are all the same. Unfortunately you have been brainwashed to actually believe color matters.

Note to fellow 'American' posters: I will not judge all white people by the actions of 'Intheknow.' I know that most Americans are not like this. I was so proud of Harry Connick, Jr. when he defended his fellow black Americans as he was unknowingly exposed to a blackface 'comedy' skit on a variety show in Australia.

Intheknow
October 14th, 2009, 08:13 PM
I'm not white. The last thing I burned was my toast this morning. I only observe and comment on my observations. Check out the Pressofac.com and read the story of the "Reverend" councilman and the prostitute and maybe you'll see where I'm coming from.

hbraithw
October 15th, 2009, 06:56 AM
Like he's the first politician to get caught with a prostitute in the history of the world. If your not white what are you?

Intheknow
October 15th, 2009, 08:01 AM
Native American.

Intheknow
October 19th, 2009, 10:59 PM
Like he's the first politician to get caught with a prostitute in the history of the world. If your not white what are you?

No, but he might be one of the few who was set up by political foes to oust him from office. Instead of concentrating on improving this City our politicians spend time on this nonsense.

acplayer
October 29th, 2009, 06:37 PM
For decades Atlantic City was probably the best place in the world for children to vacation and/or live. In the picture you can see two theatres just on this one block of the Boardwalk when A.C. had over a dozen theatres in town. You can see the children feeding the pigeons.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acpigeonsapollo1952.jpg

Fast forward to the present and this is what Atlantic City offers for children and families where children now feed the beggars.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acresident.jpg

block944
October 30th, 2009, 09:03 AM
Except for the borgota AC is a crap hole to bad they have to furlough rooms now too


From the Star Ledger:
Lack of guests leads Borgata to close rooms in Water Club Hotel (http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf/2009/10/lack_of_guests_leads_borgata_t.html)

The Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa in Atlantic City is taking hundreds of rooms at its Water Club hotel out of service on Tuesdays through Thursdays because of low demand.
The casino also shuttered most of the posh year-old hotel’s 800 rooms on those days last March. They were reopened when bookings picked up over the summer.

The lower demand comes as Atlantic City’s casinos have struggled with a weak economy and increased gambling competition in Pennsylvania and New York.

block944
October 30th, 2009, 09:07 AM
Native American.


No wonder he likes the casinos!

Intheknow
October 30th, 2009, 05:52 PM
Things are looking bleak for the Casino industry- everywhere. I don't think Revel will open anytime soon,if ever. A few Casinos may have to pack it in this winter. We have yet to hit bottom in AC. and it's pretty bad now! Business is slow, real slow and with the amount of debt these Casinos hold trouble is brewing.

Isn't that "no-legs" Johnson in that picture?

acplayer
October 30th, 2009, 07:30 PM
The problem is that everything that made Atlantic City attractive, unique and special is gone.

Here you can actually see the ocean from the Boardwalk and the gorgeous architecture of the Blenheim, whose concrete was personally poured by Thomas Edison. (now Bally's bland shoebox)

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acblenheimfrombeach.jpg

Edison also used to fish out the window of his friend's house, Captain Young, which used to be on the end of the Million Dollar Pier, which is now Caesars Pier One.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acyoungshouse1910.jpg

In 1960 you could actually shop and go to the cafeteria at Woolworths below your affordable hotel room at the Belmont (now a tin shed sellling cheap t-shirts)

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acwoolworthsbelmont1960.jpg

Fabrizio
October 30th, 2009, 07:47 PM
Another shot of the Belmont, there in the distance. Some of my finest memories of AC are of the city in winter. To think: people would go there in the winter... to walk on the Boardwalk... to shop. Note the building behind the rolling chair: it is exactly like buildings you'd see on so many main-streets... simple, only a couple of stories, but beautifully detailed.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/ronaldo/c-6.jpg

Intheknow
October 31st, 2009, 12:09 PM
The Boardwalk is now bleak and depressing, no wonder it's deserted, and it's only October wait until February.

New York Times had a piece on AC last week in the business section, "Can Atlantic City raise the stakes". It's going to take more than the Revel opening, which I doubt will happen, to save AC. Simple minded people are controlling AC and its fate.

JohnFlint1985
October 31st, 2009, 10:31 PM
From my last visit in September future Revel Casino

http://images51.fotki.com/v747/photos/7/1306457/7925969/L406-vi.jpg

http://images51.fotki.com/v731/photos/7/1306457/7925969/L408-vi.jpg

http://images53.fotki.com/v421/photos/7/1306457/7925969/L410-vi.jpg

http://images52.fotki.com/v738/photos/7/1306457/7925969/L417-vi.jpg

http://images51.fotki.com/v749/photos/7/1306457/7925969/L419-vi.jpg

http://images112.fotki.com/v1534/photos/7/1306457/7925969/L420-vi.jpg

http://images51.fotki.com/v731/photos/7/1306457/7925969/L429-vi.jpg

http://images19.fotki.com/v22/photos/7/1306457/7925969/L430-vi.jpg

http://images51.fotki.com/v731/photos/7/1306457/7925969/L595-vi.jpg

acplayer
November 1st, 2009, 05:56 PM
Great photos of Revel. I hope it gets the financing to complete it asap. A.C. really needs the boost and some kind of good news.

Here's what the Belmont and Woolworths looked like by the early 1980s.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acbelmontwoolworthsearly1980s.jpg

Although it could get quite cold in the winter....
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acfire1928.jpg

The crowds still came. (And they would still come if there was a reason for them)
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/wrigleyseasterapril11920.jpg

Fabrizio
November 1st, 2009, 06:20 PM
The Dennis Hotel .

Looks like a TV transmission... most likely a political race. The card on the right says Frank Blair who was an anchor for the Today Show. Faye Emerson, long forgotton, was a huge television star in the 1950's.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/ronaldo/c-2.jpg

Fabrizio
November 1st, 2009, 06:34 PM
Note the difference between the Revel's blank reflective glass walls on the B'walk compared to the Dennis in the photo above.

So now we read that Revel needs a billion dollars to finish? Wasn't there something about Chinese investors? What's the story?

cantlisten
November 1st, 2009, 09:00 PM
Las Vegas (Las Vegas) is the largest city in Nevada, gambling industry as a large tourist center, shoppinghttp://www.see-shoes.com (http://www.see-shoes.com/), vacation real estate at the well-known, is one of the world-renowned resort. From a giant playground to a real flesh and blood, Live Flesh city, Las Vegas transformed itself in 10 years.
Las Vegas travel each year http://www.see-shoes.com (http://www.see-shoes.com/)to 38.9 million passengers to shopping and enjoy the food accounted for the majority, only a minority came to gambling. Nevada was once was ironic as "Sin City" and "bet out wages" in Las Vegas, has gradually matured into a real city. 1990 to 2000 10 years, the Las Vegas increased by 80% to about 1.9 million now. The attractiveness of the city is also gradually become more diverse.
The city is no longer a "casino," a synonym. Here, you can find food, find art, find entertainment, find all the elements of a pluralistic city.
Las Vegas, the world's most where there is no foundation, and finally have their roots deep down the bar.http://www.see-shoes.com

66nexus
November 1st, 2009, 10:01 PM
The rendering shows some ground level and greenery on the B'walk level. In those pics the glass is immediately abutting the B'walk. I really hope that's not indicative of things to come.

As for the above post, it seems like a Vegas ad, and it seems like it will be deleted.:confused:

acplayer
November 3rd, 2009, 06:24 PM
What I don't get is why the city isn't doing something with the vacant inlet land near Gardeners Basin where Hackneys and Captain Starns once stood at the end of the Boardwalk. They should have seafood restaurants, sightseeing and fishing tours with trolley service from the Boardwalk to the inlet, the marina and downbeach. So much squandered opportunity in A.C.

Hackney's
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/achackneyscars1.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/achackneysnight.jpg

Captain Starns
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acstarnsaerial.jpg

Nice day for a sail
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acstarns.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acinletpierboats.jpg

Feeding the sea lions
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acstarnssealion1.jpg

Easy access

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/actrolley6890starns.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/actrolley202starnsinlet1952.jpg

Intheknow
November 4th, 2009, 07:29 PM
The city feels the inlet section is better suited for section 8 housing and welfare high rises-not a joke. We have a "new" Mayor for the next four years, what are his latest priorities? Taking the police k-9's off the streets because crack heads and criminals were complaining they were being bitten without cause, total complaints- 6. I'm not making this up. He is currently ordered to pay back city $850,000 he fraudulantly granted himself and the current city council President, true. He is a want-a-be Al Sharpton who's followers are the dregs of AC. He also wants to trade parcels from Bader field for lots in the City, why???? It's worth more as a whole I would think. Hopefully Christie, NJ new govenor, will set up a corruption office in the city to turn this cesspool around.

block944
November 5th, 2009, 08:36 AM
Your outrageous property taxes at work.

Officials hope teachers' convention in Atlantic City boosts economy

By The Associated Press (http://connect.nj.com/user/njoapnews/index.html)

November 05, 2009, 6:07AM

ATLANTIC CITY — Parents in New Jersey are trying to figure out what to do with their kids because schools are closed for the annual teachers' convention.
Atlantic City officials are hoping the estimated 50,000 educators who will spend time at the two-day event will help stimulate the sagging economy.
Atlantic City Convention and Visitors Authority vice president Gary Musich says overall New Jersey Education Association convention attendance is up 4 percent this year.
Musich said about 15 to 20 percent stay overnight.

Intheknow
November 5th, 2009, 10:02 PM
The more I read of scrapped plans in Vegas, Macau, falling revenue in PA, the less hope I have of Revel opening. There is still no plan, let alone talking about a plan, to turn this city around. The CEO of Revel said the city and the Casinos need to work together. The cities response, we do enough to help the Casinos.

hbraithw
November 6th, 2009, 08:27 AM
AC Player, it's great to wax poetic about AC's past but times change. People have so many choices now and that was AC's downfall. If you want a family resort you can take a short drive to Ocean City or Wildwood or better yet take a Spirit flight to Florida. The family thing will not work in AC. I think AC should make itself into Time Square with casinos.

Atlantic City is what it is now. All those places are gone for a reason. Those hotels were too small. The casinos have better restaurants. I personally like tall glass high rises. They have a modern appeal. AC will never be what it was it can only strive to be the best of what it is. I like the idea of bringing in cruise ships, putting in a monorail system, shutting down streets and making them pedestian friendly around the Walk with pedestrian bridges over the Expressway Entrance. Taking advantage of AC's strengths. Could you imagine if you where able to park your car at a casino, and for one fee use a monorail to hop around all the different casinos, the wallk, borgata, boardwalk hall, marinas? AC is so small it could be remade quickly if investors wanted too.

One thing I've always felt about this area is, "If they build it they will come." Just look at the Walk. But unfortunately only Cordish gets this. The investors just aren't there. Period. I don't know why? AC's location is great.

Fabrizio
November 6th, 2009, 08:38 AM
One thing I've always felt about this area is, "If they build it they will come."

^ Get rid of AC's sizable thug population and it's low-life polititians and they will come for sure.

MidtownGuy
November 7th, 2009, 03:47 PM
Here you can actually see the ocean from the Boardwalk and the gorgeous architecture of the Blenheim, whose concrete was personally poured by Thomas Edison. (now Bally's bland shoebox)


So beautiful, and so sad they tore that gorgeous historic building (and so many others) down instead of developing the big new casinos in ways that saved the best old architecture alongside the new.

It was part of what distinguished the place...made it interesting and special, gave it charm. People can be so short sighted.

The new benefits from the old, and vice versa.

JohnFlint1985
November 22nd, 2009, 06:51 PM
BTW my friends who have business in AC told me that the second tower at Revel is going to be built and as of now they are preparing to resume building it.

block944
November 23rd, 2009, 11:59 AM
AC's new business plan... burn it down
No structural damage in fire at Atlantic City Boardwalk pier

By The Associated Press (http://connect.nj.com/user/njoapnews/index.html)

November 23, 2009, 10:00AM

ATLANTIC CITY — A weekend fire that destroyed four shops on the Atlantic City Boardwalk (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/11/post_106.html) did not cause any structural damage to the pier supporting them.
No serious injuries were reported in the blaze, which broke out at the Central Pier shortly before 7 p.m. Saturday and took nearly four hours to bring under control.
http://media.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/photo/atlantic-city-casino-skyline-ballys-caesars-trump-plazajpg-8a01dc2b4d0f608d_large.jpgMatt Rainey/The Star-LedgerThe Atlantic City skyline, which includes casinos like Bally's Caesar's, Trump Plaza, is lit up at dusk.
Authorities say the fire started inside a pizza shop, and the flames quickly spread to two clothing stores and a photography shop.
The Central Pier, which was built in the 1880s, has been hit by multiple fires in its history, including a May 2006 blaze that caused nearly $500,000 in damage.

Fabrizio
December 4th, 2009, 07:54 PM
This is a quite incredible clip of Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin in Atlantic City in 1954. Janet Leigh also shows up. Great shots of the B'walk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuEtIllFGQ4

block944
December 5th, 2009, 03:29 PM
More great news!!!


Atlantic County (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/atlantic_county/index.html), News (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/news/index.html), Transportation » (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/transportation/index.html) Atlantic City rail service will reduce trains in winter

By The Associated Press (http://connect.nj.com/user/njoapnews/index.html)

December 05, 2009, 2:58PM

ATLANTIC CITY — With winter ridership low, a rail service that carries gamblers between New York City and Atlantic City on weekends will cut back the number of trains it runs from 18 to 11. The change is effective Dec. 18.
The Atlantic City Express Service, or "ACES" for short, began running in February.
http://media.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/photo/atlantic-city-trainjpg-442c31292a8aabf1_large.jpgMel Evans/The Associated PressA special New Jersey Transit train dubbed "ACES" leaves Atlantic City, Jan. 30.
Three Atlantic City casinos and the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority pay NJ Transit to operate the service under a $3.8 million-a-year contract.
Auggie Cipollini, senior vice president of operations for Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa, said the casinos will decide in the spring whether to restore the service being cut.
He said ridership was good during the summer but had tailed off since.

block944
December 5th, 2009, 10:37 PM
Atlantic City firefighters find body under boardwalk

By Carly Rothman/The Star-Ledger (http://connect.nj.com/user/cjrothma/index.html)

December 05, 2009, 6:51PM

A body was found under the Atlantic City boardwalk this evening as firefighters worked to extinguish a smoldering trash fire nearby, authorities said.
Fire Chief Dennis Brooks said the body appeared to have "been here for a while."
Brooks said firefighters were called to the scene near the Central Pier Arcade shortly before 6 p.m. Efforts to reach the source of the fire were hampered by the thick smoke, barriers of sand and trash, and the wet, cold weather, Brooks said.
"The temperature has dropped significantly. The rain right now is pretty much ice rain. It's switching over to hail, and it looks like it's about to turn to snow," said Fire Chief Dennis Brooks, speaking from the scene shortly before 7 p.m. "It slows things down. You're slipping and falling. It makes things harder."
No injuries related to the fire had been reported by 7 p.m., Brooks said. He added the space under the boardwalk is a common shelter for homeless people.
Brooks said the area has been declared a crime scene, and that the Atlantic City Prosecutor's Office was en route.
A spokeswoman for the prosecutor's office had no immediate comment. An Atlantic City police spokeswoman deferred comment to the fire chief
















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December 05, 2009, 7:43PM
I went to Atlantic City last summer for the first time in almost 25 years. What a dump, and the boardwalk smelled like stale sweaty clothing and urine. Of course this body was rotting under the planks for awhile, nobody noticed the stench.
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I had a similar experience last year. AC is a dump. I dont wonder why the casinos are losing money. So much for the redvelopment that was supposed to occur when the casinos came to town.
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Intheknow
December 7th, 2009, 09:49 PM
AC is growing........ as a ghetto. It is truely a shame and down right depressing. The dead guy under the pier was a Mexican national, to all you mexicales..AC is colder than Mexico in December.

The power people in AC got together last week to set twelve points to improve the city. Mayor, casino execs, etc....It's so obvious yet these clowns need to get together and discuss it for 3 years before anything happens. Call me a racist if you want, but black people ruined this city. This is the truth. Drugs, gangs, shootings, rapes, run down abodes, petty crime etc..etc... Does Ocean City, Wildwood, or Las Vegas have public housing? The inlet used to be beautiful..Hackneys etc.. now it's like war torn Somolia. Disgusting. I dare any of the white posters to walk through Stanley homes, at any time of day. The cops don't even go there.

Also, the city wants to demolish a part of the boardwalk on the north end. Longest, world famous...oh well let's tear it down.

66nexus
December 8th, 2009, 03:54 AM
AC is growing........ as a ghetto. It is truely a shame and down right depressing. The dead guy under the pier was a Mexican national, to all you mexicales..AC is colder than Mexico in December.

The power people in AC got together last week to set twelve points to improve the city. Mayor, casino execs, etc....It's so obvious yet these clowns need to get together and discuss it for 3 years before anything happens. Call me a racist if you want, but black people ruined this city. This is the truth. Drugs, gangs, shootings, rapes, run down abodes, petty crime etc..etc... Does Ocean City, Wildwood, or Las Vegas have public housing? The inlet used to be beautiful..Hackneys etc.. now it's like war torn Somolia. Disgusting. I dare any of the white posters to walk through Stanley homes, at any time of day. The cops don't even go there.

Also, the city wants to demolish a part of the boardwalk on the north end. Longest, world famous...oh well let's tear it down.


Yes...Vegas does have public housing. I didn't know shootings/drugs were a black thing, guess I learned something this morning.

No one has to call you a racist. You've mentioned race before and seems you're so fixated on it.

Intheknow
December 8th, 2009, 09:03 AM
Yes, I'm in therapy for my fixation on race. This is the core problem in AC, if you don't agree you're in denial.

block944
December 8th, 2009, 10:13 AM
How come there are no mass white hoods or asian hoods only black?

Intheknow
December 8th, 2009, 04:04 PM
#1- Parenting #2- Education #3- work ethic. The basics to succeed in life.

AC's new committee to improve quality of life met again today. They want to market and advertise more. How do you market a ghetto? Seriously, most people in this country have a realistic view of AC, they need to change the reality of crime and filth, not sugar coat it with advertising.

66nexus
December 8th, 2009, 08:40 PM
Yes, I'm in therapy for my fixation on race. This is the core problem in AC, if you don't agree you're in denial.

If you say so...

66nexus
December 8th, 2009, 08:54 PM
Understood now: AC is/was 100% black. In an effort to place blame on AC's downfall, let's blame a particular group of people.

lol First, it was the casinos, now it's blacks. Then it'll be the guy under the B'walk.

Intheknow
December 8th, 2009, 09:55 PM
Can't blame guy under boardwalk any more, he died. There are many problems, core problem is what I stated earlier. Go hang out in the North inlet for a couple of hours, better yet, buy property in the north inlet if your so confident the "hood" is such a positive for AC. As for the Casinos, they're just greedy whores who don't give a shit about anything but their bottom line- even if it means ruining lives and neighborhoods, just like dope dealers.

66nexus
December 9th, 2009, 01:41 AM
Oh so now I think the 'hood' is a positive for AC?:rolleyes: Tell me...what else do I think?


Lol he says parenting/education...but any other time he blames the casinos. This is great:D

Intheknow
December 9th, 2009, 09:18 PM
What group of people hold the majority in AC? Which group held the majority in the past? Ask any old Jewish, Italian, Irish, ex-resident of AC why AC went downhill.

White people in AC government are from the 5th and 6th wards, the only habitable wards in AC. Wards 1 thru 4 are an urban jungle. BTW, there are no casinos in the 5th and 6th wards, to my knowledge. Any connection? I wonder.

66nexus
December 10th, 2009, 02:26 AM
What group of people hold the majority in AC? Which group held the majority in the past? Ask any old Jewish, Italian, Irish, ex-resident of AC why AC went downhill.

White people in AC government are from the 5th and 6th wards, the only habitable wards in AC. Wards 1 thru 4 are an urban jungle. BTW, there are no casinos in the 5th and 6th wards, to my knowledge. Any connection? I wonder.

Hmm, so...since whites hold the majority in the US, I suppose they're to blame for all the country's problems?

You've said over and over and over and over, how the casinos (and AC's government) ruined AC. Now you're saying it's blacks. You don't know what you think.

Now you want me to go around and ask mostly white groups who to blame AC's downfall on. pfft...yeah:rolleyes:

stache
December 10th, 2009, 02:57 AM
#1- Parenting #2- Education #3- work ethic. The basics to succeed in life.



Good health needs to be added to this list.

block944
December 10th, 2009, 05:27 PM
Atlantic City casino revenues drop 13 percent compared to a year ago

By The Associated Press (http://connect.nj.com/user/njoapnews/index.html)

December 10, 2009, 3:54PM

http://media.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/photo/atlantic-city-casinosjpg-f51d1df27650f93b_large.jpgStar-LedgerAn Oct. 7 file photo of casinos in downtown Atlantic City.ATLANTIC CITY -- The decline in Atlantic City casino revenues returned to double digits in November, dampening hopes that the worst is over for the city's struggling gambling industry.
Revenues for the city's 11 casinos fell by 13.4 percent in November compared to a year ago.
The previous two months had seen only single-digit decreases, and casino operators in the nation's second-largest gambling market had hoped that another decline of less than 10 percent would signal that the market had hit bottom.
Overall, the casinos won $299.3 million. Slots revenue accounted for $206.8 million of that total, table games the rest.
The Atlantic City casinos have been battered by the recession and competition from slots parlors in neighboring Pennsylvania, New York and Delaware. Having one less Saturday during November this year also hurt, but only slightly
"There's no sugar coating it," said Joe Weinert, senior vice president of Spectrum Gaming Group, a New Jersey casino consulting firm. "It's another poor result for the Atlantic City casinos."
While the results may fluctuate on a month-to-month basis, there's more pain in store for Atlantic City in the year ahead, Weinert said, because still more competition is coming. He noted the scheduled opening of the Sugar House casino in Philadelphia and live table games likely to begin operating in Delaware and possibly also in Pennsylvania.
None of the 11 Atlantic City casinos saw an increase in revenue in November. Showboat Casino Hotel showed the smallest decrease, 1.9 percent.
Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino saw the largest decline, 25.8 percent, followed closely by Caesars Atlantic City (down 23.1 percent), Resorts Atlantic City (down 21.4 percent) and the Atlantic City Hilton (down 20.7 percent).
Others showing double-digit declines were Trump Marina Hotel Casino (down 19.7 percent), Bally's Atlantic City (down 15.2 percent), Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort (down 13.3 percent) and Tropicana Casino and Resort (down 10 percent).
Only three casinos showed single-digit decreases: Showboat, the Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa (down 8 percent), and Harrah's Atlantic City (down 3.9 percent).
For the first 11 months of the year, casino revenues are down 13.5 percent compared to 2008.


Wait till Pennsylvania starts playing table games...
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2009/12/table_games_bill_nears_debate.html

Intheknow
December 10th, 2009, 09:51 PM
These decreases from a year ago are on top of a year ago's decline, which , at the time, were considered massive. Still the same old, same old is going on. It is a sad ghost town here, except for Saturday nights. Thank God I'm not in the Casino business.

66nexus
December 18th, 2009, 09:22 PM
Will the real Las Vegas please stand up?

From Helldorado to CityCenter, the evolution continues

By Rob Lovitt
Travel writer
msnbc.com contributor
updated 9:08 a.m. ET, Tues., Dec . 15, 2009

Have you been to Las Vegashttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34418386/ns/travel-seasonal/#) lately? According to the numbers, probably not. Thanks to the recession, crumbling real estate values and hundreds of canceled conventions, the city’s visitor volume this year is off 3.9 percent (through October).
In fact, some have suggested the city has all but crapped out. The explosive growth, the multi-billion-dollar projects and the over-the-top, anything-goes mind-set — it was all artifice, a boom destined to go bust and a relic of pre-recessionary excess.


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Post-recession Vegas: the next evolution?
Few places have been harder hit by the recession than Las Vegas, and the city’s current troubles dwarf those of earlier eras. And yet, despite the challenges — stalled projects, declining room revenues, more flight cutbacks — the city is already poised for its next evolution.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34418386/ns/travel-seasonal/

excerpts taken from full article on msnbc.msn.com


The reasons are different for the two cities, but the hurdles are the same.

STT757
December 19th, 2009, 11:16 AM
My Wife and I stayed at the Venetian this past Labor Day, we had the best time. I got us a dirt cheap rate for four nights. This is our second time to Las Vegas, also second time staying at the Venetian which I feel is the best resort on the strip. If we could we would love to go once a year.

My Wife likes to gamble, and I love sitting by the pool drooling at the girls. In all seriousness a girl who is a 10 in New York City is only about a 6 in Las Vegas.

Fabrizio
December 19th, 2009, 11:45 AM
In NYC 10? Las Vegas 6? Whoa, that's cheap! In Atlantic City they charge 15.

ZippyTheChimp
December 19th, 2009, 01:56 PM
and I love sitting by the pool drooling at the girls. Is Tiger still lurking around?

Intheknow
December 22nd, 2009, 10:17 PM
Watching news in Phila. have a lead bit on AC and the state of casino business. Live report from empty boardwalk. Show desolate casinos and boardwalk (with police car driving by in background, nice touch). Interview a New York couple who say they are very upset, they were told it would be busy and exciting, husband says it's dead here, wife says should have went to Vegas, it's more happening. They are there for four days. The downfall is spreading into a domino effect on the whole city. The powers that be better do SOMETHING, ANYTHING to turn the tide or we may go back to the early seventies. Revel sits silently. Hookers weigh 200+ pounds and no one, it appears, can speak proper english. Welcome to the new Atlantic City.

hbraithw
January 6th, 2010, 07:43 AM
Intheknow, the hatred you spew is appalling. You need to read a book. You are unenlightened and foolish. Your opinions lack an understanding of history. Your comments show a lack of character and stability. Your tone is one of an uncaring individual. Making judgements based on ones color is ridiculous. Blaming the fall of a billion dollar industry controlled by whites on black people is disgraceful. Your credibility is nil. Futhermore, your a coward because we all know you would only talk your racist rhetoric on an anonymous message board. Do your black friends know how you feel? So continue with your nonsense, as I'm sure you will, but know that your ignorance will not go unchallenged.

ZippyTheChimp
January 6th, 2010, 10:05 AM
no one, it appears, can speak proper english.
wife says should have went to Vegas:rolleyes:

block944
January 6th, 2010, 04:43 PM
Next up nickel tables:

Resorts Atlantic City casino to bring back $2 blackjack tables

By The Associated Press (http://connect.nj.com/user/njoapnews/index.html)

January 06, 2010, 4:31PM

http://media.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/photo/resorts-atlantic-cityjpg-e3255867a0f45df0_large.jpgPhoto by Donald Kravitz/Getty ImagesA January 2009 file photo of Resorts Atlantic City.ATLANTIC CITY -- Atlantic City's oldest casino is going "retro" — at least when it comes to blackjack.
Resorts Atlantic City plans to resurrect $2 games at two blackjack tables for a trial run starting next month. But players will have to pay a 25-cent fee per hand.
The fee is the first of its kind in the gambling resort. It was approved today by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission.
Resorts' table games director Kevin Brown said the $2 tables will target players who are just learning blackjack and may be intimidated by higher-limit games. He said the 25-cent fee will help defray operating costs.
Once common in Atlantic City, $2 blackjack tables have been replaced by higher-limit games in the profit-driven industry.

acplayer
January 6th, 2010, 05:50 PM
Although it could be said in a more softer politically correct manner, I think IntheKnows assessment is accurate in that Atlantic City's failure is due to bad government, greed (casinos & people) and demographics. To see it any other way is to ignore reality. Since it's politically and socially incorrect to state the obvious (and suicide for those in power) the consequence is the status quo and the decline of A.C. will continue. Your options IntheKnow are to move out (and make up some politically correct excuse like warmer weather or something like most people do) and reminisce about Atlantic City's past, bite your tongue and accept the reality of the situation and hope for a miracle or use your freedom of speech and vent on the internet. Another option would be to run for office and try to change things, but again, that would be political suicide.

From A.C.'s Golden Years....

Miss America 1944
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acmissamericavenusrameycolor1944.jpg

Little girl and Petey from the Little Rascals on the Steel Pier
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acourgangpetelittlegirl.jpg

wavecrest
January 8th, 2010, 06:28 PM
Truer words were never spoken. Those who choose to ignore this reality may do so. Please be kind enough though to turn off the lights as the last person left on the island.
At least we have many good memories of the grand palaces that brought a considerable amount of grace, elegance and charm to those who were able to spend some time in this former wonderland. What a far cry from the present glut of cheap, glass curtain monstrosities that dot the landscape.

Fabrizio
January 8th, 2010, 06:40 PM
My AC:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/ronaldo/50685182-1.jpg

hbraithw
January 11th, 2010, 08:06 AM
Although it could be said in a more softer politically correct manner, I think IntheKnows assessment is accurate in that Atlantic City's failure is due to bad government, greed (casinos & people) and demographics. To see it any other way is to ignore reality. Since it's politically and socially incorrect to state the obvious (and suicide for those in power) the consequence is the status quo and the decline of A.C. will continue. Your options IntheKnow are to move out (and make up some politically correct excuse like warmer weather or something like most people do) and reminisce about Atlantic City's past, bite your tongue and accept the reality of the situation and hope for a miracle or use your freedom of speech and vent on the internet. Another option would be to run for office and try to change things, but again, that would be political suicide.

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So your premise is that intheknow is accurate? In private we all know that blacks are the problem, however, we can't say it aloud, as it is not proper and in good decorum (i.e. political correctness)? Yours is a vailed racism that is worst than intheknows. Perhaps I am wrong and just misinterpreting your assessment. I hope so.

When you stated, "Since it's politically and socially incorrect to state the obvious." What is the obvious? That blacks are inferior? That is the impression I get. My ancestors emigrated from Barbados. The fact that the island is run by blacks, and are the majority, does not stop people from visiting it in droves. Nor do I see people packing their bags to go visit Albania eventhough its predominately white. Is the reason why Albania is poor and crime ridden because of white skin? God is the judger of hearts not appearance. Whether a white banker steals billions or a black person steals your purse both are thieves in God's eyes. The white banker is deemed the pillar of society and the black one its dreg. I beg to differ.

P.S. ACPlayer, your AC was run by mobsters and wroth with segregation.

Fabrizio
January 11th, 2010, 08:24 AM
re: Albania: for the record, you can walk anywhere in Tirana with no problem. Street crime is rare in the major Albanian cities.



P.S. ACPlayer, your AC was run by mobsters and wroth with segregation.

Still true today ... except much worse.

The Casino and gov. operators are the new Mafia and the city is segregated with visitors that stick to their hotels and the b'walk. The city proper is still segregated... not by law as it once was, but by social class and life style.

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While Albania has a while to go before achieving European sea-side resort standards, I'd take any one of them over Atlantic City:

Saranda:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/ronaldo/spiaggia_albania.jpg

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hbraithw
January 11th, 2010, 11:11 AM
Tirana:

http://images.travelpod.com/users/paisano522/1.1153597740.ghetto-ass-albania-2.jpghttp://images.travelpod.com/users/paisano522/1.1153597740.ghetto-ass-albania-.jpg
http://images.travelpod.com/users/paisano522/1.1153597740.ghetto-ass-albania-5.jpg

Intheknow
January 11th, 2010, 04:16 PM
Honestly, parts of Atlantic and Pacific Aves look worse than Tirana. Stanley Holmes Projects look worse than that and they used to be nice before the sect. 8's took over I'll get back to you on your perceptions of me Hbraith (try reading thread from beginning). ACplayer, thanks for the Little Rascals pic. Stymie was my favorite rascal, that alone should prove I'm not racist.

Intheknow
January 12th, 2010, 09:47 PM
Intheknow, the hatred you spew is appalling. You need to read a book. You are unenlightened and foolish. Your opinions lack an understanding of history. Your comments show a lack of character and stability. Your tone is one of an uncaring individual. Making judgements based on ones color is ridiculous. Blaming the fall of a billion dollar industry controlled by whites on black people is disgraceful. Your credibility is nil. Futhermore, your a coward because we all know you would only talk your racist rhetoric on an anonymous message board. Do your black friends know how you feel? So continue with your nonsense, as I'm sure you will, but know that your ignorance will not go unchallenged.

I don't spew hatred, hate is a very strong word son. I've probably read more books in the last year than you have your whole life. Understanding of history?? Character and stability?? My judgements are against self-serving, corrupt individuals-white, black, pink, yellow. Casinos, city, and it's citizens are all to blame for AC's "ghetto" look. Black friends?? 90% of white people don't have black friends. How many cities or towns in America have blacks and whites (50/50 split) living together? If I were racist, believe me, I would say so. AC suffered from "white flight" it happens all the time, for you to deny this fact is what I would call ignorance. The decay of AC is spreading faster than the "renewal" of AC. Try living here for a year, walk around town, shop in the shops, eat in the restaurants, attend City council meetings, etc... I'll guarantee your naivity will pass.

2009- AC revenue down more than 13% from a bad 2008. Expect a few casinos to look like Gardners Pier or the Sands lot by the end of this year.

stache
January 13th, 2010, 05:01 AM
son.

"Son"? LOL! Are you that old that you assume everyone is your junior? :p

hbraithw
January 13th, 2010, 10:34 AM
don't spew hatred, hate is a very strong word son. I've probably read more books in the last year than you have your whole life. Understanding of history?? Character and stability?? My judgements are against self-serving, corrupt individuals-white, black, pink, yellow. Casinos, city, and it's citizens are all to blame for AC's "ghetto" look. Black friends?? 90% of white people don't have black friends. How many cities or towns in America have blacks and whites (50/50 split) living together? If I were racist, believe me, I would say so. AC suffered from "white flight" it happens all the time, for you to deny this fact is what I would call ignorance. The decay of AC is spreading faster than the "renewal" of AC. Try living here for a year, walk around town, shop in the shops, eat in the restaurants, attend City council meetings, etc... I'll guarantee your naivity will pass.

2009- AC revenue down more than 13% from a bad 2008. Expect a few casinos to look like Gardners Pier or the Sands lot by the end of this year.
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Hey pops, mein kampf doesn't count, okay. Like I said, your credibility is nil. If you don't care about the color of the individuals, why bring race up in the first place? You said in a direct quote that race was, "the core problem in AC, if you don't agree you're in denial." How does that not equate making a judgement based on race? You don't need the say your racist, you already proved that much.

White flight? Now there's stating the obvious. Who's denying that. White's left to chase the American Dream suburban utopia, loans were available to them in post-War America. Unfornately, Intheknow, those same loans were not available to blacks. Imagine my black as coal grandfather walking into First National Bank to apply for a loan to move to Somers Point in the 1950s. It wasn't happening, Pops. No amount of hard work, good parenting, or civic pride was going to change that fact. Nor were they able to get loans for the buildings in AC the whites left behind that some still own to this day. So blacks were left in AC to make due with this unfair situation. No home ownership, no home equity, no stocks, no bonds, just having to except the way it is. By the way, Blacks didn't let those buildings get dilapidated. They didn't own them! The white owners that left and could care less did. I own rental property and the upkeep of the property is my responsibilty not my tenants. Unfortunately, intheknow, that large janitors wage could not buy them those buildings. When whites were in AC there was no opportunites for blacks except be a janitor, maid or porter. And the "uppity" blacks that dare have a successful business were exhorted from by white gangsters with the police sponsorship. Your the naive one. Intheknow, your words are a slap in the face to every hardworking black that had to endure that crap. The people left now are remnants of this.

Don't give me my Irish/Jewish/Italian immigrants worked hard crap either. They were still white. Blacks worked hard too. Ethinic discrimation was a joke in comparison. They were allowed to do crime as long as they kicked it up to White Anglo Saxon Protestants. The ones that didn't certainly benefited from the security of the one that did. Laying brick would have been a dream job for a black. Again, picture my black as coal grandfather trying to get a job from the brick layers union. Wasn't happening intheknow. So save all off your racist garbage for the sheep that are in denial about the core problem. Poverty is a vicious cycle. In America, it's roots are in discrimination. Period.

Intheknow
January 13th, 2010, 10:52 AM
Ummm...most white folk don't want to invest in a predominantly black ghetto. I on the other hand have, in fact my neighbors are black, I'm the minority!! The majority of white people are racist, let's not kid ourselves, hence my opinion on 'blacks' in AC and their contribution to it's downfall.

stache
January 13th, 2010, 11:36 AM
Most people are racist, regardless of their own color.

hbraithw
January 13th, 2010, 02:38 PM
Ummm...most white folk don't want to invest in a predominantly black ghetto.
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Tell that to all the white people buying up property in Harlem, NYC and Bedford Styvusant, Brooklyn. How about all white folk that bought in Venice Park, Massachusetts and Connecticut Ave in AC. Wrong again, intheknow.

hbraithw
January 13th, 2010, 02:50 PM
Most people are racist, regardless of their own color.
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I don't believe this.

Intheknow
January 13th, 2010, 03:09 PM
Let me know how many black people are living in these areas in two years. You are naive. Of course I am wrong just like all the other posters on this board who thought I was wrong about Pinnacle, Bashaw/Barr, Revel, Morgan Stanley, Chelsea Hotel, the economy.......haven't heard from those posters in awhile. My thoughts might not be popular but they are usually proven to be true. Keep on living in your "happy" world.

66nexus
January 13th, 2010, 05:09 PM
Let me know how many black people are living in these areas in two years. You are naive. Of course I am wrong just like all the other posters on this board who thought I was wrong about Pinnacle, Bashaw/Barr, Revel, Morgan Stanley, Chelsea Hotel, the economy.......haven't heard from those posters in awhile. My thoughts might not be popular but they are usually proven to be true. Keep on living in your "happy" world.


Yeah...sure...:rolleyes:


Even broken clocks are right twice a day. More likely, those posters were tired of arguing against the same 'ole same 'ole.

Intheknow
January 13th, 2010, 06:32 PM
The same ole same ole is why AC is in it's current state, well competition is crushing AC yet the Casinos and AC government stick to the same ole same ole. It sickens me to see prime real estate squandered like it is in AC. Ocean front, beautiful beach, close to millions of people, boardwalk, an international airport!! ten minutes away!! What a F'n joke.

acplayer
January 14th, 2010, 01:24 AM
Hbraithw, that was a well thought out and accurate post on the history of white flight and discrimination. Does that change the reality of the situation today though? A century from now, will that still be used to justify why things are the way they are? I stand by my statement that demographics, poor government and speculation/greed ruined Atlantic City. Also, I think 99% of blacks that grew up in the old segregated Atlantic City would say that it was a 1000% better community to live in then it is today.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acblacksonbeach1920s.jpg

stache
January 14th, 2010, 05:38 AM
100 years from now it could very well be under water -

hbraithw
January 14th, 2010, 11:42 AM
Hbraithw, that was a well thought out and accurate post on the history of white flight and discrimination. Does that change the reality of the situation today though? A century from now, will that still be used to justify why things are the way they are? I stand by my statement that demographics, poor government and speculation/greed ruined Atlantic City. Also, I think 99% of blacks that grew up in the old segregated Atlantic City would say that it was a 1000% better community to live in then it is today.
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Does that change the reality of the situation today? No, not in the least. I don't know that it's a justification as much as it is a reality. But we must not dismiss it either. I feel like if more people understood the history of things they wouldn't have uneducated opinions like intheknow (i.e. Blacks are the problem). Look up "Black Wall Street" in Tulsa, OK and see what happened to blacks that got too rich back in the day. I respect your opinion. I agree that speculation, greed, and poor government ruined AC, certainly. You lost me with the political correct stuff, though. You don't really qualify what you mean by demographics. You left that open to interpretation. The way I read it, it seemed like you were talking about a racial demographic. If you are refering to a poor demographic I can agree with you. Racial? No. I don't buy it. The reason parts of Tirana, Albania looks like a ghetto is because their poor not white.

Also, I think 99% of blacks that grew up in the old segregated Atlantic City would say that it was a 1000% better community to live in then it is today. No truer statement has ever been made. I have a deep legacy on the Westside. I hear the old timers all the time confirming this. The black community was closer knit. Indeed. But the lure of economic empowerment that desegregation brought, took the best and brightest out of the black community never too return.

ZippyTheChimp
January 14th, 2010, 12:04 PM
Also, I think 99% of blacks that grew up in the old segregated Atlantic City would say that it was a 1000% better community to live in then it is today.I'm sure they were ecstatic.

The 1% must be complete anarchists.

stache
January 14th, 2010, 12:37 PM
This tangent has been milked pretty dry.

Intheknow
January 14th, 2010, 02:28 PM
You said it crabby airline hostess, isn't that an oxymoron? About the only significant thing on the horizon for AC is Revel. They still don't have financing, is anyone on here an investment banker? I'm curious as to the odds of them getting financing to complete the job. The longer it sits idle the more it's going to cost to finish.

Intheknow
January 15th, 2010, 09:57 AM
By the way Hbraith, the current black mayor is racist. He flat out said it. I guess that's OK, what with all the suffering and stuff.

acplayer
February 1st, 2010, 06:58 PM
A while ago Bally's announced they were going to turn the Claridge into a W like upscale boutique hotel. Hopefully that happens. In the meantime I came across some cool photos from Life showing the roofdeck of the Senator Hotel.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acsenatorroofdeck1948.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acsenatorroofdeckbar1948.jpg

Intheknow
February 2nd, 2010, 08:53 PM
^Hot women! Anyway, MGM choses Macau over Atlantic City, wants to sell stake in Borgata. What does that tell you about AC's future? Revel seeking 300 million tax break to "maybe" finish building. My local bartender in AC had his worst December in 25 years. Real estate down 40% and still not selling. The good news.....I've moved to Philadelphia.

lofter1
February 2nd, 2010, 09:17 PM
And now they're considering enticing AC gamblers to Xanadu in the Meadowlands (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/25/nyregion/25towns.html?adxnnl=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1264424577-qRT44svMAZ60taNwAIVZ8A).

stache
February 3rd, 2010, 12:24 AM
acplayer, I'm trying to guess, are those photos from 1948?

acplayer
February 3rd, 2010, 02:57 PM
Yep Stache, those are from 1948. How'd you know?
Also, the armed services took over all of the hotels in A.C. in 1942.

Ambassador Hotel (where the Tropicana is now) with the Ritz Carlton.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acambassadorbwarmy1942.jpg

Curb side check-in at the Senator in 1948.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acsenatorcheckin1948.jpg

lofter1
February 3rd, 2010, 02:58 PM
Yep Stache, those are from 1948. How'd you know?


He know his hairstyles ;)

Fabrizio
February 3rd, 2010, 04:43 PM
And I know my cars: that is indeed a 1948 Chrysler and not just any... you can see that it's a convertible and scuplturing on the door shows that it's a magnificent Town&Country.

These models featured genuine mahogony trim. Prices were in the Cadillac class.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/ronaldo/MB08_r159_01.jpg

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Note too : the reflections of railings in the windows of the hotel's doors. That is the veranda of the SeaSide Hotel directly across the street (as seen in the left side of the photo below):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/ronaldo/622475.jpg

Intheknow
February 3rd, 2010, 07:43 PM
You could probably trade that car for the Hilton. Also notice the awnings on boardwalk and glass without metal crime crates in front of them. Why no awnings in the 100 milion dollar facade renovation? At least we still have the Ritz, hands down the nicest building currently on boardwalk.

stache
February 4th, 2010, 01:18 AM
How'd you know?



From the lady at the bar in her bikini. :cool:

wavecrest
February 5th, 2010, 01:01 AM
It would have been nice to have been born 40 years earlier to have enjoyed the architectural splendor that apparently is rarely appreciated in the US. Most of the great architecture is demolished and has been replaced by a hall of mirrored monoliths. Well at least there are a few examples left of the seaside castles that overflowed with charm, grace and elegance at this once premier wonderland at the shore

Intheknow
February 5th, 2010, 04:48 PM
Pinnacle officially announced today it's dropping it's plans for AC and putting their land (old Sands site) up for sale. Glad they blew up the Sands and left us an empty lot fronting the boardwalk. The news has been dismal in AC and it's beginning to snowball.

Fabrizio
February 5th, 2010, 04:50 PM
What is the news with Revel? Are they still working at the site?

wavecrest
February 6th, 2010, 01:39 AM
Didn't the magnificent Traymore once stand at the site of the former Sands in part at least since the late nineteenth century? Wouldn't it be amazing if some entrepreneur took the lead by continuing the theme of a restoration of classical architectural elements as evidenced by Caesars in AC and the hotel that replicated in accurate detail the prominent buildings of the Paris skyline in Las Vegas? Could you imagine a restoration of Atlantic City's crown jewel, the Traymore, at the site it originally occupied ? I guess that's too much to hope for in the current downturn (depression).

Intheknow
February 6th, 2010, 10:41 AM
Revel is at a stand still, no work going on. They are asking the city for a 300 million tax break to attract investors. IF it opens, it will be at least two years. Another Pinnacle debacle is brewing, it appears.

BBMW
February 9th, 2010, 10:49 AM
With full casinos in Pennsylvania and CT, and racinos in Yonkers and Queens, I don't think very many people feel the need to go to AC. If they ever opened legal full service poker rooms in NY metro, I'd never feel the need to go back there.

AC will be lucky to keep some percentage of it's current business. I don't see it expanding again.

Intheknow
February 24th, 2010, 06:23 PM
The value of Atlantic City casinos- In 2008 Trump was aking 316 million for Trump Marina, last year it was 270 million, today he is asking for 75 million. Revel is looking for 1 BILLION dollars to finish, do you really think they can find someone to invest? Maybe it's a good time to buy, who knows. The city government has gone from bad to worse, if that's even possible. The govenor of NJ has threatened to take control of the city, he should do it today before these politicians loot and pillage the city. Ex-cons are running the city-seriously.

stache
February 24th, 2010, 06:32 PM
Wasn't this done once before?

Fabrizio
February 24th, 2010, 06:39 PM
Question: if the Revel building is sitting empty, unfinished, unheated, un-lived in... basically on the Atlantic Ocean with no protection ...won't the elements really do damage after a while? What kind of condition will the building be in after a year?

And let's face it: with Pinnacle out of the picture and with Casino/Hotels that they can't give away (75 million is peanuts)... the Revel will not find it's money. No way.

Intheknow
March 23rd, 2010, 07:26 PM
It was announced today that the Hard Rock is interested in building a boutique Casino at the foot of route 40. Their description- "Ultra- modern, fine dining, and a spa". How exciting! This is the spot Bashaw and Barr, the Playboy etc... were going to build.

wavecrest
March 31st, 2010, 01:41 PM
With the destruction of vthe vast majority of Atlantic City's treasured architecture over the last 60 years there at least remains one constant that is a prime motivator for tourism, the boardwalk. This is in contrast to Miami Beach which once had a boardwalk of about 30 blocks in length that stretched from approximately 20th Street to 50th Street. While probably less than half the width of the Atlantic City boardwalk Miami Beach's boardwalk had tiled roof shaded rest areas as well as a space between the boardwalk and street side buildings that would have allowed for a row of businesses as in the Atlantic City model. Could you imagine the added tourism that would have attracted? However the geniuses in Miami Beach have decided to demolish their boardwalk due in part to so called high maintenance costs even though their hotel occupancy tax allows them to build stadiums and cultural centers at the drop of a hat. A part of their rational they also cited the demands of the cycling set for a street level path. The result, a demolished boardwalk replaced by a serpentine asphalt pathway.
So even though Atlantic City lost most of its robustly constructed landmark hotels there is still the boardwalk. This along with Mr. Bashaw's requirement that those requesting financial assistance for new construction incorporate a city friendly access in their structure marks a vast improvement over the Las Vegas plop a monolith down in the desert model. With this new direction as well as an eventual end to the current depression perhaps Atlantic will once again become the crown jewel of the Jersey coast.

Fabrizio
April 6th, 2010, 05:51 PM
The Atlantic City Press reports 3 shocking stories today:

Revel casino project 'looks like it's dead,' state senator tells Atlantic City crowd

^ this seemed to be a last-chance opportunity for the city to pick it's self up with nothing else on the drawing boards.

Excerpts:

"Most state lawmakers have responded cautiously to the ongoing uncertainty about the Revel casino project in Atlantic City. But not state Sen. Raymond Lesniak, D-Union.

"Following the news that Morgan Stanley, which owns the land being used for the Revel Entertainment Inc. casino, has decided to unload its stake, Lesniak on Monday expressed doubt that the project would ever get finished. During a public hearing in Atlantic City on whether to legalize sports betting at casinos and racetracks, he told a resident that the Revel project "looks like it's dead."

http://pressofatlanticcity.com/news/press/new_jersey/article_2789c396-411e-11df-90c1-001cc4c002e0.html

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And then this article:

Resorts casino in Atlantic City encounters "severe cash shortages" that could threaten its survival

"Resorts Atlantic City is warning that "severe cash shortages" could jeopardize its chances of survival while it searches for new owners."

story continued here:

http://pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/article_f4c94e58-4196-11df-a5b1-001cc4c03286.html

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And this one:

Atlantic City casinos make 21 percent less money in 2009; only Borgata made more

"Casinos saw their earnings plunge more than 21 percent last year as the sluggish economy and competition from slot parlors in the Northeast continued to make it more difficult for Atlantic City’s gaming industry to turn a profit."

continued here: http://pressofatlanticcity.com/news/top_three/article_745b89d2-412f-11df-bde7-001cc4c03286.html

^ Down 21% in 2009.... I wonder what the total percentage is since 2007 when the slide began?

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acplayer
April 7th, 2010, 09:35 PM
Atlantic City is in dire straights. A.C. should be used as a required case study in city planning of what Not to do to a city. So much wasted potential....On a lighter note... the good 'ol days.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acbeachscene1906.jpg

stache
April 8th, 2010, 03:06 AM
Interesting to see the preggers woman out in public.

scrollhectic
April 8th, 2010, 12:36 PM
http://www.globest.com/newspics/nej_revel.jpg
Revel Casino
ATLANTIC CITY-Morgan Stanley said it is pulling out of the $2 billion Revel casino in Atlantic City and is prepared to take "a substantial loss" on the stalled project, into which it has already sunk $1.2 billion. The company, which owns more than 90% of the ocean-themed casino/hotel project on the Boardwalk, did not list a reason for abandoning the project.

In a filing with the US Securities and Exchange Commission, Morgan Stanley said it will seek to sell or auction off the project. The filing said the company's directors on Wednesday "authorized management to proceed with a plan of disposal for Revel Entertainment Group, LLC," a subsidiary of Morgan Stanley. According to the filing, the company may consider a direct sale to a third-party or an auction process.

Neither Morgan Stanley officials nor Kevin DeSanctis, chairman and CEO of Revel Entertainment, immediately returned messages. But DeSanctis, told the Associated Press the project will still get built. "The key is to ultimately figure out who will end up with that equity piece, whether it's Revel, Revel with a partner or someone else," he said.

Just weeks before this announcement, the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority approved (http://www.globest.com/news/1619_1619/newjersey/183990-1.html) the South Inlet Demolition Program, with Revel Entertainment set to fund up to $500,000 of the program’s cost. It is unclear if this project will proceed as planned.
What is known is that the casino and its 2,000-room hotel are widely seen as crucial to Atlantic City's efforts to compete with neighboring states, which soon will offer table games that threaten to further erode New Jersey's one-time monopoly on East Coast gambling.

acplayer
April 9th, 2010, 06:59 PM
Steve Wynn was spotted at the Revel on Tuesday for over 3 hours but todays Press says he's not interested in the Revel. Wynn taking over the Revel or building on the Pinnacle site would be a great shot in the arm for A.C.

BBMW
April 12th, 2010, 02:13 PM
If NJ wanted to protect (or even expand) its gaming tax revenue, they should sacrifice AC, and authorize gaming in Jersey City (or elseware on Hudson Riverfront) and on the Delaware Riverfront opposite Philadelphia.

wavecrest
April 13th, 2010, 03:50 PM
Atlantic City is in dire straights. A.C. should be used as a required case study in city planning of what Not to do to a city. So much wasted potential....On a lighter note... the good 'ol days.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acbeachscene1906.jpg
What a sharp clear color image! Judging by the clothing and architectural styles this would seem to be a pre 1930 image. Unless color was added later this would appear to be a very rare and natural color rendition of architectural elements, skin tones, sand and other background features. Do you have any idea as to what year this photograph was taken?

stache
April 13th, 2010, 07:08 PM
I'm going to venture a guess and say between 1903/1908.

STT757
April 14th, 2010, 10:51 AM
It's time to legalize sports betting in Atlantic City, it's the only way to breathe new life into the City. Imagine the crowds during the NCAA tournaments, Super Bowl etc..

acplayer
April 19th, 2010, 05:39 PM
Hi Wavecrest, that photo is from 1906 and was definitely colorized (a really good).

Here's another colorized Atlantic City bathing beauty.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acbathingbeauty.jpg

wavecrest
April 20th, 2010, 08:11 PM
Thanks for the info ACPlayer. The colorization was so well done that except for some people under the boardwalk it was difficult to tell that it wasn't developed from color emulsion film. The first color image photographed using a color emulsion film to my knowledge was from the year 1861. This was by a Scottish experimenter who used an emulsion made from potatoes of all things. Color film was still in a developmental stage in 1906 since a stable blue dye was not invented until the 1930's. This development in part made the three color Technicolor process possible. Still it's great to see a well done colorization! The colorized bathing beauty is also very nice.

wavecrest
April 20th, 2010, 08:13 PM
Thanks for the info ACPlayer. The colorization was so well done that except for some people under the boardwalk it was difficult to tell that it wasn't developed from color emulsion film. The first color image photographed using a color emulsion film to my knowledge was from the year 1861. This was by a Scottish experimenter who used an emulsion made from potatoes of all things. Color film was still in a developmental stage in 1906 since a stable blue dye was not invented until the 1930's. This development in part made the three color Technicolor process possible. Still it's great to see a well done colorization! The colorized bathing beauty is also very nice.

scrollhectic
April 20th, 2010, 08:49 PM
Thanks for the info ACPlayer. The colorization was so well done that except for some people under the boardwalk it was difficult to tell that it wasn't developed from color emulsion film. The first color image photographed using a color emulsion film to my knowledge was from the year 1861. This was by a Scottish experimenter who used an emulsion made from potatoes of all things. Color film was still in a developmental stage in 1906 since a stable blue dye was not invented until the 1930's. This development in part made the three color Technicolor process possible. Still it's great to see a well done colorization! The colorized bathing beauty is also very nice.

The "bathing beauty" kind of looks like the Joker

BBMW
May 11th, 2010, 01:17 PM
Heard on the radio this morning: A commercial calling for the construction of a casino/racino at the Meadowlands, touting how many jobs it would create. The sponsor was not clear, but by the tone, I suspect the construction trade unions.

acplayer
May 19th, 2010, 12:48 AM
I just came across this rendering for Bashaw's AC Gateway project which was to be built at Albany Ave and the Boardwalk. What could have been... I think it would have added South Beach cool with Jersey Shore flavor.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/acplayerr/acbashawgatewayrendering.jpg

Nexis4Jersey
May 19th, 2010, 09:25 AM
They need to start building Condos and Apartment Hige Rises , Aswell as other stuff to fill in these empty lots.

BBMW
May 19th, 2010, 11:42 AM
^
Who's going to build them, who's going to lend them the money to build them, and who, in AC would pay enought to live there that the developer could make money, and the bank would get paid?

AC's on the downswing. I don't expect to see anything new going in the ground for quite a while.

BBMW
July 8th, 2010, 12:00 PM
Guess no on cares about AC any more. That's actually somewhat appropriate.

block944
July 17th, 2010, 07:31 PM
who would live in AC? There are no real job opportunities, the economy is contracting, the beaches suck, schools are beyond terrible, public transportation is non existent and frankly the area area around the outside the boardwalk scares the hell out of me and I live in Newark.

STT757
July 26th, 2010, 12:35 AM
State takeover;

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/07/atlantic_city_has_been_in_need.html

Can AC be saved?;

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/article_851f914e-9771-11df-8829-001cc4c002e0.html

Be more like New Brunswick;

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_page/20100725_New_plan_for_A_C__modeled_on_success_in_N ew_Brunswick.html?page=1&c=y

AC11
August 23rd, 2010, 11:50 AM
Resorts sold to Gomes Gaming. Dennis Gomes is a visionary leader for gaming companies and the is great news for Resorts and AC as a whole. Resorts could be one of the top properties with a small amount of work and a rework of marketing.

acplayer
August 31st, 2010, 12:09 AM
I just stayed at Resorts for the airshow and despite the negative press, the hotel and rooms are still very nice. I hope Gomes can really bring this property back to life. That being said, A.C. is a sad city, needs drastic changes and I'm disgusted by the overall neglect of the city by it's sorry leaders and residents.

JCMAN320
September 1st, 2010, 01:41 PM
Scores strip club seeks to open in Atlantic City casino
Published: Wednesday, September 01, 2010, 10:00 AM
The Associated Press

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Bloomberg News
A strip club is seeking to open in the Trump Taj Mahal.[/b]

ATLANTIC CITY — Scores strip club has applied to do business in an Atlantic City casino.

Starlight Events LLC wants to operate a gentlemen's club where the Stage Deli was in Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort.

According to its application, the club would serve alcohol to customers. They could watch entertainers dance and strip from evening wear to underwear over the course of three songs.

New Jersey law prevents dancers from flashing or exposing anything that can be covered by pasties or thongs in establishments where alcohol is served.

Trump Entertainment Resorts spokesman Tom Hickey says the parties are still negotiating a lease.

Starlight attorney Scott Silver says the club would require about six months and $3 million worth of construction before it could open.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/09/scores_strip_club_seeks_to_ope.html

stache
September 1st, 2010, 07:17 PM
The decline and fall...

JCMAN320
September 24th, 2010, 01:22 PM
Atlantic City takes down out-of-date, confusing Boardwalk signs

Friday, September 24, 2010
Associated Press
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

ATLANTIC CITY — The nation's first Boardwalk is cleaning up its act.

Atlantic City has taken down dozens of signs from its Boardwalk that were either old, out-of-date, confusing to visitors or just plain ugly.

It's part of a campaign to spruce up the Boardwalk as Atlantic City fights off competition from neighboring states, including a new casino that opened Thursday in Philadelphia.

Don Guardian, head of the city's Special Improvement District, told The Press of Atlantic City the Boardwalk had so many signs it was starting to look like a hockey rink.

Most of the signs were put up by the city over the years, but others were put up without permission by residents or community groups.

Some reminded visitors not to feed the seagulls, some were bleached by the sun to the point of uselessness, and still others raised more questions than answers.

"There would be a sign that said, 'No picnicking' but there was no indication if that was for the beach or the Boardwalk," Guardian said.

Some of the more than 100 signs targeted for removal will be replaced with better-looking, more informative ones, specific to the beach or the Boardwalk.

"I liken it to a hotel," said Ken Calemmo, a member of a mayoral task force charged with improving cleanliness and safety on the Boardwalk. "It's nice to get a little chocolate on your bed. Our goal is just to take a lot of little steps along the way to make a more enjoyable day for the visitor."

http://www.northjersey.com/news/092410_Atlantic_City_takes_down_ugly_Boardwalk_sig ns.html

lofter1
September 24th, 2010, 07:19 PM
Maybe they're hoping that HBO's new "Boardwalk Empire (http://www.hbo.com/boardwalk-empire/index.html)" will bring in some new visitors.

You can see the sets creating an olde-timey Atlantic City HERE (http://www.hbo.com/boardwalk-empire/index.html#/boardwalk-empire/inside/extras/extras/inside-boardwalk-empire).

NY TIMES Slideshow (http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/09/02/arts/television/20100905-empire-ss.html?ref=television): Building a ‘Boardwalk Empire’

http://mimg.ugo.com/201003/40317/boardwalk-empire.jpg

Building the exterior set in Brooklyn:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlpFHcA98-E


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5fpNXPVG1k

stache
September 24th, 2010, 07:22 PM
That show is depressing.

lofter1
September 24th, 2010, 07:46 PM
Booze, Crooks, Atlantic City ... whaddya expect?

You want depressing, try watching this (the last image will kill you):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsPiWrlaLAI

Or this, a short cinema verite of some crazy kids dying to get into the Trump Marina ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu9ezpkr-ro

[Sorry for the incursion into the AC thread, but consider it Friday Nite Flicks :D ]

stache
September 24th, 2010, 08:09 PM
Thanks lofter... :confused:

JCMAN320
October 27th, 2010, 05:22 PM
Expansion at Atlantic City International Airport to go forward following court ruling

By ERIC SCOTT CAMPBELL Staff Writer | Posted: Wednesday, October 27, 2010

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Atlantic City International Airport in Egg Harbor Township is planing an expansion of its terminal building.
Photo by: Ben Fogletto

Atlantic City International Airport drew closer to establishing its international reach Tuesday when a three-judge panel rejected a legal challenge to its $25 million terminal expansion.

The South Jersey Transportation Authority can now proceed with construction, which should take about 18 months, SJTA spokeswoman Sharon Gordon said. The project will expand the baggage-claim area to include a federal inspection station, allowing customs service to process international passengers swiftly.

“That will give us the opportunity to fly direct to any international city,” rather than connecting through another domestic airport, Gordon said.

Gordon said two airlines are interested in starting international service at the airport, but she declined to identify them while talks continue. She said Caribbean destinations would probably be targeted first.

Spirit Airlines, the airport’s majority carrier, has announced no such plans, airline spokeswoman Misty Pinson said. The carrier made an initial public offering of stock Sept. 17 and has adhered to a legally imposed “quiet period” since then.

The future of AirTran in Atlantic City, which already flies to and from Atlanta each day, is unclear in the wake of Southwest Airlines’ plan to buy it.

Passenger traffic has grown at the airport this year, SJTA records shows. A record 688,000 passengers departed the airport in the first seven months of this year, 29 percent more than in 2009.

WestJet flew to and from Toronto from October 2009 until May, its passengers going through the customs process in a screened-off section of the baggage area. Although Toronto service has stopped, it helped motivate the push for a federal inspection station.

Philadelphia contractor Hunter Roberts Construction will build the terminal expansion, an opportunity the SJTA awarded April 20 before a challenge from competing bidder T.N. Ward Construction of Atlantic City stalled the project. The case went to the Superior Court of New Jersey’s Appellate Division.

Hunter Roberts bid $25,157,675, lowest of the 10 bids opened March 18. for the opportunity. T.N. Ward came in second at $25,847,000 but argued that Hunter Roberts had not followed bidding rules, including misrepresenting the qualifications and prescribed duties of its subcontractors. The panel disagreed.

The April 20 bid award was the project’s second. T.N. Ward was initially awarded the contract in November, but a rival bidder, Ernest Bock & Sons of Philadelphia, claimed the bid specifications were unclear. The SJTA changed its specifications and took new bids, which produced a new winner in Hunter Roberts.

“We’re in the process of scheduling our construction meeting. We’ll bring everybody in and develop the timeline,” Gordon said. “It’s just a shame because we lost such a beautiful summer — perfect weather for construction.”

The project is better late than never, said Assemblyman John Amodeo, R-Atlantic, who is trying with Assemblyman Vincent Polistina, R-Atlantic, to legislate a way to crack down on or expedite bid challenges like Ernest Bock’s and T.N. Ward’s.

“In a time of high unemployment and a lot of guys out of work, it would have been nice to have this job a year ago, but it still will help,” Amodeo said. “We need that.”

The terminal expansion will unfold as the $308 million NextGen Aviation Research and Technology Park takes shape at the William J. Hughes Technical Center over the next five years. NextGen is a federal project to shift air traffic surveillance from ground-based radar to satellite triangulation.

Contact Eric Scott Campbell:

609-272-7217

ECampbell@pressofac.com


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Airport expansion

The Atlantic City International Airport’s terminal overhaul should take 18 months and cost $25 million.

The larger facility will include a customs area, accommodating direct international flights.

Two unidentified airlines are interested in starting international service at Atlantic City, airport spokeswoman Sharon Gordon said.

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/communities/eht/article_7e8787a8-e134-11df-804f-001cc4c03286.html

arcman210
October 27th, 2010, 08:24 PM
That airport is a hot secret for NJ residents... flights are cheap and parking/traffic is a breeze. I hate to say (cause its great the way it is now) it but theres so much potential for this to become a major airport that serves AC, Philly, and even NYC... especially if a rail link is built.

stache
October 28th, 2010, 08:19 AM
Makes sense. It could also serve Trenton.

66nexus
October 28th, 2010, 07:25 PM
That airport is a hot secret for NJ residents... flights are cheap and parking/traffic is a breeze. I hate to say (cause its great the way it is now) it but theres so much potential for this to become a major airport that serves AC, Philly, and even NYC... especially if a rail link is built.

Hell, hopefully could free up some of NY's congested airspace. Maybe not by a huge margin (given the distance), but by more than enough.

66nexus
November 9th, 2010, 10:28 PM
Atlantic City Non-Gambling Revenues Up


Martin Di Caro Reporting

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There are some good signs - dollars signs - in Atlantic City, whose 11 casinos have weathered four years of slumping gambling revenues. While the number of visitors to New Jersey's gambling capital has decreased, they are spending more money on non-gambling activities, like hotels, restaurants and nightclubs, according to an Associated Press report. The amount of money lost at slot machines and table games dropped 23 percent since 2007, but spending on hotel rooms is up 21 percent, the report said.

To casino industry experts, the increased spending may lay the path toward a long-term recovery. "The economy is the key to everything here. Once the economy turns around everybody's economy will turn around and that include Atlantic City," said Roger Gros, the publisher of Casino Connection Magazine.

"They are never going to get back to the level of revenue that they once did, of gaming revenue, that is, but this is actually a very good sign that the non-gaming revenue is coming around because that's where there is a lot of profit," said Gros, who called hotels, restaurants and other attraction a guaranteed source of revenue. "As long as they can get the visitors coming to town, getting them to spend money on the rooms, on the retail, on food and beverage, it will be a great city once again."

The poor economy has significantly damaged Atlantic City's gambling industry. The number of total visitors fell from 34,534,000 in 2006 to 30,381,000 last year, according to the Associated Press report. Gros said for Atlantic City to rebound, it must follow the example of the Las Vegas strip, where non-gambling revenue surpassed gambling revenue years ago.

"If Atlantic City can do that, there is really no limit to where it can go. Hotel companies will come in just to build non-gaming hotel rooms. More restaurants will come in, and we've seen a great influx of restaurants over the past give years that has kind of been ignored," Gros said.

Millennium Radio NJ - Copyright 2010. All Rights Reserved.

http://www.nj1015.com/Atlantic-City-Non-Gambling-Revenues-Up/8534950

JCMAN320
November 29th, 2010, 03:00 PM
Moody's says proposed changes to Atlantic City's gaming industry won't help slump

Published: Monday, November 29, 2010, 1:56 PM Updated: Monday, November 29, 2010, 1:57 PM
The Associated Press

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Jerry McCrea/The Star-Ledger
Aerial views of Atlantic City casinos and the famous ocean front boardwalk.

ATLANTIC CITY — A key corporate credit rater doubts that proposed changes including smaller casinos, internet gambling and sports betting will end Atlantic City's four-year slump.

Moody's Investors Service says in a report issued today that the proposed changes could send money "in one pocket, out the other."

The company says that rather than invigorate the market by adding new investment, allowing smaller casinos with as few as 200 hotel rooms would cannibalize existing properties like the Borgata, Harrah's and the Trump casinos.

And Moody's says internet and sports betting would likely set off "a casino arms race" with Pennsylvania, New York and Maryland, which would likely offer it as well.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/moodys_says_proposed_changes_t.html

stache
November 29th, 2010, 05:21 PM
I went to the new casino in Philly last week and it's not so hot.

JCMAN320
December 8th, 2010, 04:39 PM
Atlantic City closes Garden Pier, again

Posted: Saturday, December 4, 2010 12:15 am | Updated: 12:27 am, Sat Dec 4, 2010.

Atlantic City closes Garden Pier, again From Press staff reports pressofAtlanticCity.com | 0 comments

Garden Pier, which houses the Atlantic City Art Center and Atlantic City Historical Museum at New Jersey Avenue and the Boardwalk, will be closed until further notice, the city announced Friday.

Officials did not provide additional information. The deteriorated pier has been damaged in the past by storms, and the museum and arts center have been frequently closed as well, including most recently in September, when storms created by Hurricane Earl damaged electrical lines and pipes there.

The Casino Reinvestment Development Authority voted in September to allocate $1 million to trimming the pier.

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/article_00c146c4-ff2f-11df-b523-001cc4c002e0.html

JCMAN320
December 8th, 2010, 05:00 PM
Gamblers spending less time, money in Atlantic City casinos, study says
Published: Tuesday, December 07, 2010, 5:50 PM Updated: Tuesday, December 07, 2010, 5:51 PM
The Associated Press

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Patti Sapone/The Star-Ledger
Trump Marina and Harrah's are among the Atlantic City casinos that have experienced a big hit to their business in the past four years.

ATLANTIC CITY — Day One of the new Resorts Atlantic City looked a lot like most of the other days that preceded it in recent years: a quiet casino floor with few gamblers on it.

Dennis Gomes and his management team took control today of the nation's first casino to open outside Nevada and quickly saw what they were up against. The casino was virtually devoid of gamblers.

And although a Tuesday afternoon three weeks before Christmas is not an optimal time for any casino, Gomes knows Job One is to put more fannies on more stools in front of slot machines and more money on the green felt of table games if he is to succeed where his predecessors failed.

"The first two weeks of December in every casino I've ever operated — and I've operated 14 of them — the feeling is overwhelming doom," Gomes said with a laugh just off a casino floor that was mostly quiet and virtually devoid of the smell of cigarettes that permeates most other gambling halls. "I'm not worried about these two weeks. If we're walking around here in the middle of July and seeing this, then I'll be worried."

He and New York developer Morris Bailey bought the struggling casino for $31.5 million in a deal that closed late Monday night. It was by far the lowest price ever paid for a casino in New Jersey — and with good reason.

Resorts came perilously close to closing in recent weeks when the casino nearly ran out of cash. It had been owned for the past year by a consortium of lenders who took control of it after the previous owner, Los Angeles hedge fund Colony Capital LLC, stopped paying its mortgage.

It ranks near the bottom of Atlantic City's 11 casinos in terms of revenue and profitability; indeed, Resorts posted a gross operating loss of $2.9 million for the third quarter compared with a gross operating profit of $706,000 a year ago.

The casino took in an average of $446,011 a day in October, ranking it 10th out of Atlantic City's 11 casinos. By comparison, the city's top-earning casino, the Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa, averaged more than $1.8 million a day the same month.

For the first 10 months of this year, Resorts has taken in $135.5 million, down 18.2 percent from the same period last year.

But Gomes projects that the casino will start posting profitable months no later than June, and he expects to turn a profit for 2011 as a whole.

Part of how he plans to do that is the low purchase price and absence of debt involved in the sale. Another big part is the pay cuts that veteran Resorts employees were forced to take if they wanted to keep their jobs. And not everyone survived the switch in ownership.

"I worked here 27 years — until yesterday," one former employee said as he stood outside the main entrance this afternoon. "Twenty-seven years."

Inside the casino, those who still had jobs appeared relieved and excited about the prospect of a turnaround for a casino that had been in the news for all the wrong reasons in recent years.

"There are going to be some great things happening here," said cocktail server Marlise Siracusa. "We're going to be No. 1 again."

Resorts is being rebranded with a roaring '20s theme, in part to capitalize on the popularity of "Boardwalk Empire," the hit HBO show about Prohibition-era Atlantic City. Most of those changes, including attiring cocktail servers in sexy flapper costumes with scandalously low-cut backs, will be unveiled around Memorial Day, although New Year's Eve will have a Roaring '20s theme as well.

But a few new touches were on display today, including a strolling violinist, and a stilt-walker greeting patrons as they arrived at the ornate casino.

"Everybody seems very happy," said the stilt-walker, John McNair, who uses the professional name "Mackie," from the song "Mack The Knife."

"How are you, love?" he called out to a female customer, reaching way down to shake her hand. "Welcome to the new Resorts!"

"We're all looking forward to bigger and better things," McNair said.

The first thing Gomes did when he entered the building this afternoon was stop and wrap the violinist, Colin Matthews, in a bear hug. Then Matthews launched into a slightly countrified version of Queen's "Crazy Little Thing Called Love."

"It's all about bringing new energy to the place," said Gomes' son, Aaron, the casino's new executive vice president of operations.

As father and son spoke and strolled around the casino floor, boxes of their personal belongings were still being carried through the doors into their new offices. And finding their way around the place was still an adventure, with the two Gomeses debating the best way to reach a particular theater.

"Isn't it up two flight of stairs?" Dennis Gomes asked.

"I think it's at the other end of that hallway," Aaron Gomes replied.

Dennis Gomes said he has not given much thought to whether to adopt Atlantic City's current smoking arrangement in which smokers can light up on no more than 25 percent of the casino floor.

"I do think that smoking is harmful to people, and secondhand smoke is deadly," he said. "I know it can hurt your revenue (to ban smoking altogether), but you don't want people dying of cancer. For the areas where you do have smoking, you have to have pretty powerful air handlers sucking that stuff out. I need to think about that."

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/12/gamblers_spending_less_time_in.html

Fabrizio
December 8th, 2010, 05:12 PM
^ It is amazing that someone can write an article like that and mention nothing about the deplorable conditions of the city itself. The Borgata is outside of the city. Resorts is right in the middle of the mess that is AC.

Newarkguy
December 8th, 2010, 07:50 PM
^ It is amazing that someone can write an article like that and mention nothing about the deplorable conditions of the city itself. The Borgata is outside of the city. Resorts is right in the middle of the mess that is AC.

The borgata is INSIDE the Atlantic City limits. Its in Atlantic city with a sea of detroit like vacant lots and blocks between it and the boardwalk corridor.

lofter1
December 8th, 2010, 08:20 PM
Resorts is being rebranded with a roaring '20s theme, in part to capitalize on the popularity of "Boardwalk Empire," the hit HBO show about Prohibition-era Atlantic City.


Once the 137 people who actually LIKE Boardwalk Empire* pay a visit then what will they do?

*As opposed to the rest of us who try and watch in the futile hope that something interesting with kernel of emotional honesty will happen. Sadly for all involved BE is like the anti-Sopranos.

stache
December 8th, 2010, 09:02 PM
I gave up after the pilot.

Newarkguy
December 13th, 2010, 05:04 PM
To list the hypocrisy and platitudes of Nj government travel/tourist policies...the state is divided into various sectors. There is a skylands sector in N/W Jersey. You have the "Delaware bay-Cape may" sector. There is the "gateway sector" that completely ignores Newark (why wasn't Essex co. declared a Greater Newark tourist zone?)in favor of Jersey City and NYC. Gateway, of course refers to New york harbor as the historic immigrant entry point for the US. and Nj's bragging about the statue of Liberty being in JC, rather than NYC.There is a shore sector that covers the entire Jersey shore.
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Interestingly...NJ did for tiny A.C. what it wouldn't do for 325,000 Newark in the late 1980's.......It declared the entire of Atlantic county ...."GREATER ATLANTIC CITY" in NJ travel brochures. An apparent attempt to fool out of state tourists into thinking Atlantic city was the equal size-rival to Las Vegas, Nevada! Apparently visitors have seen and spread the truth of how tiny and desolate Atlantic City is. If Atlantic County WERE consolidated into a city...then AC will have a chance against Las Vegas. As it stand now, casinos are closing in from all directions, and revenue is dropping like rocks.
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Sorry but mother NJ will never stop sleeping with NYC and Philly to come back home to her kids(AC/Newark/Canden). Heck, NJ doesn't even care about its own capitol city, Trenton!! At least Jersey city has learned from daddy New Jersey that sleeping/whoring with NYC brings skyscrapers and investment. If only Atlantic City/Newark and ALL other NJ cities were on the Hudson river.................................

Fabrizio
December 13th, 2010, 05:39 PM
If AC had been left to rot back in the 1970's... if gambling had never come in...a portion of it probably would have gentrified by now and made a comeback. It could have been another Ocean City, another CapeMay. The ghettos would still be there but the center of the city and Chelsea, Duck Town... they probably would have come around. Anything would have been better than what it turned out to be. They've torn down everything, even taken conventions off the B'walk. With out the Borgata which isn't even in AC proper... it's just a mess.

Newarkguy
December 13th, 2010, 06:04 PM
If AC had been left to rot back in the 1970's... if gambling had never come in...a portion of it probably would have gentrified by now and made a comeback. It could have been another Ocean City, another CapeMay. The ghettos would still be there but the center of the city and Chelsea, Duck Town... they probably would have come around. Anything would have been better than what it turned out to be. They've torn down everything, even taken conventions off the B'walk. With out the Borgata which isn't even in AC proper... it's just a mess.Why do you keep saying Borgata is not in AC proper? Borgata adress.......... one Borgata way, Atlantic City, Nj,08401 Do you know what "AC proper means"? It means WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARIES!! look at a map of Atlantic City. Go to Google earth and see how AC not only covers the main island, but the marshes to the west as well. Borgata is BLOCKS west 1/4 mile of the lighthouse in downtown AC. Obviously you have never been to AC. and if you have then you'd see that Borgata only APPEARS separate from AC from the ac expressway. Once INSIDE A.C. you would see that blocks and blocks of vacant land and burnt out neighborhoods form a 1/4 to 1/2 mile gap in the skyline between Borgata and the boardwalk strip. I wont correct you again. Ill let someone else take a turn. as for your other points....well yes many conventions and events have moved out of AC and as usual, its New Jerseys anti city bias!! The construction of suburban convention /expo centers in Edison-Raritan ctr and in Sommerset, as well as other suburban venues has crippled the NJ cities as far as expos go.***********
I dont know if AC would have gentrified much. Like Newark, AC is a haphazzard mix of non matching wood frame structures. Hoboken and Jersey city have sustained patterns of blocks after solid blocks of handsome brownstones as well as clear apartment building districts where small 3 story wood frame houses were not allowed. These types of neighborhoods attract gentrification. Also AC has a black supermajority that will do anything to preserve that majority status...meaning low income housing only with income ceilings to keep whites and other middle class outsiders out. AC city council represents the ghetto majority and black middle class are fleeing. AC will never allow middle and upper income people into AC that will demand improvements they aren't willing to give. I bet eventually AC city hall converts the entire northern half of the city into casino zone with no luxury home construction allowed....but hotels will be fine (higher income people are welcome.....to stay spend and then leave!!) Or AC converts the north end into a 2 sq. mile puiblic housing reservation composed of "townhouses". just like they(Mayor Sharpe "I'm anti gentrification"James and his black majority city council did to 90% of Newark's vacant land! Now look how the new (public housing) residents are skyrocketing murders and violence in my Newark.

Fabrizio
December 14th, 2010, 06:41 AM
^ "Why do you keep saying Borgata is not in AC proper?"

You are right... it is in AC. It is within the city boundries.

Marsh lands are also in AC.

The Borgata is off on it's own... disconnected from the city... not part of the city street grid, separated by Brigantine Blvd. That's why it has had more of a chance to be succesful....it's outside of the blight that is AC. People going there drive in to parking... take an elevator up and later drive out again. There is no contact with the city. No possibility to walk on the Boardwalk or the city streets. You are separated. And that was the point of my comment.

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Gentrification: back in 1974 when the issue of gambling was first floated, large swaths of AC were amazingly intact....and still beautiful. It was not just "a haphazard mix of non matching wood frame structures." The large scale desruction ( apart from Paline's Prarie) began in the late 70's.

As for:"Also AC has a black supermajority that will do anything to preserve that majority status."

That's very true now... and I agree probably irreversable...but it was not the case in AC 35 years ago when Farley etc. were in power. Remember ACs population is less now than it was before gambling. After gambling, the remaining middleclass sold and left. And today's city government reflects the current populace.

But as to what would have happened to AC with out gambling... we can only both speculate.

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"Obviously you have never been to AC."

Oh really?

Newarkguy
December 14th, 2010, 03:50 PM
Just kidding! you are correct about the Borgata being separate from the main grid. In fact a highway was built complete with a grade crossing so gamblers can visit the casino without stepping into AC streets. Is this the same casino who's owner sold off rather than break his mob ties? Or was that MGM/Steve Wynn?

Fabrizio
December 14th, 2010, 05:19 PM
^I think you mean "mob ties".

Mod ties are something else entirely.

Anyway... Atlantic City is now Camden-by-the-sea and will probably remain that way for a long time coming. I occasionally check to read the ACPress. Today they report about construction activity at Revel.... funding for the project is still not confirmed.

Newarkguy
December 14th, 2010, 06:16 PM
:DOops!:D

Newarkguy
December 14th, 2010, 07:03 PM
It doesn't look good for Revel, according to this New York Post story:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/iffy_boardwalk_empire_P5hxRwSmDPbzOn0Jx6oRaL

Fabrizio
December 14th, 2010, 07:12 PM
^ Thanks for the link.

So I wonder what in the world will happen to a building like that (Revel). It's huge.

And I would think sitting by the ocean, empty like that, requires quite an investment in maintenance costs.

Newarkguy
December 14th, 2010, 10:07 PM
This may wind up another Asbury park scene...with a massive abandoned tower. of course Asbury knocked theirs down and replaced it with a new abandoned concrete foundation. Ironically Its called Esperanza...which is "Hope" in spanish.

BBMW
December 16th, 2010, 12:11 PM
Vegas has a couple of these - Fontanbleu and Eschelon. Casulaties of the economic downturn. Will sit like tombstones for a long time.


^ Thanks for the link.

So I wonder what in the world will happen to a building like that (Revel). It's huge.

And I would think sitting by the ocean, empty like that, requires quite an investment in maintenance costs.

scrollhectic
December 16th, 2010, 07:37 PM
Deregulation poses major shift for casino industry (http://www.njbiz.com//article-multiple/85005-deregulation-poses-major-shift-for-casino-industry)

by Andrew Kitchenman (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);)Daily News (http://www.njbiz.com//article-multiple)

Wednesday, December 15, 2010 02:12 PM

New Jersey’s casino industry would see less regulation and an increased marketing effort under a pair of bills working their way through the Legislature.

Legislators and officials with Gov. Chris Christie’s administration have been working on details of the bills. One measure would transfer much of the casino oversight duties of the Casino Control Commission to the Division of Gaming Enforcement in the state Department of Law and Public Safety; the other bill would create a new Atlantic City Tourism District, under the control of the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority. That entity would replace the Atlantic City Convention and Visitors Authority. The tourism district would be responsible for keeping the area around the casinos clean and safe, as well as for marketing the city as a destination, to help stem the flow of gaming dollars to out-of-state casinos.

The changes to the CCC could lead to roughly 200 layoffs as the agency moves from being the casinos’ primary regulator to overseeing casino licensing and hearing appeals of Division of Gaming Enforcement actions.

CCC Chairwoman Linda M. Kassekert has argued against the changes, telling legislators that the commission both changed regulations and reduced its budget to keep pace with industry changes.

Commission officials also raised concerns that the changes could lead to reduced oversight, and submitted alternative proposals to make regulatory changes, but legislators have not acted on them.

Assemblyman John J. Burzichelli (D-West Deptford), a primary sponsor of both bills, said the measures would provide significant help for the ailing casino industry, both by reducing the cost of regulatory compliance and increasing tourism. But Republicans, including Christie, are looking for changes to the bills before they are passed by the Legislature.

Assemblyman Vincent J. Polistina (R-Northfield), whose district includes Atlantic City, said he supports the governor’s position on the bills. The deregulation bill as written would save the casinos some money, he said, but not as much as it would if changes, requested by Republicans, regarding inspections were made.

Polistina also objected to provisions in the tourism district bill that tie the future of Atlantic City to horse racing. The bill would provide the state’s racing industry with $30 million in casino revenue from savings in the reduction of casino licensing fees.

Polistina said he was hopeful “the Democrats will come to their senses” to improve the tourism district bill’s effects on Atlantic City.
Burzichelli, meanwhile, said he understood Christie’s office was only offering “technical changes” to the bills, and predicted they would largely pass in their current form.

JCMAN320
December 31st, 2010, 02:50 AM
N.J. Senate approves bills designed to help revitalize Atlantic City
Published: Monday, December 20, 2010, 5:24 PM Updated: Monday, December 20, 2010, 5:24 PM
By Ginger Gibson/Statehouse Bureau

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Andrew Mills/The Star-Ledger
Casinos located at the north end of the Atlantic City Boardwalk in this July 2010 photo.

TRENTON — The state Senate today approved a pair of bills intended to help revitalize Atlantic City and ease regulations on casinos, despite warnings from critics that it could weaken needed oversight on gaming.

The bills, which would overhaul the regulatory and marketing functions in Atlantic City, are part of a package Gov. Chris Christie endorsed in his effort to remake a resort town now facing competition from other states.

Christie had previously called on the Assembly to work today so he could sign it before Christmas, but the Assembly chamber remained dark.

Christie said at a Statehouse press conference that he will not sign a separate bill authorizing "boutique" casinos until the legislature sends him the other Atlantic City bill. Hard Rock Cafe owners are eager to build a smaller casino on the boardwalk, Christie acknowledged, but he is requiring all of the bills make it to his desk.

In touting the Atlantic City overhaul at a town-hall meeting last week, Christie said the casinos have committed to taking the money they save from deregulation and spending it to market Atlantic City. He estimated the state’s 11 casinos could save as much as $60 million through deregulation.

Critics of the legislation, including gambling architects and former lawmakers James R. Hurley and Steven Perskie, have warned the deregulation could undo strict rules designed to prevent corruption.

There was no debate on the Senate floor about the legislation (S-12), which would move much of the powers of the Casino Control Commission to the Attorney General’s office. The legislation passed 22-13, but only after the voting was extended to allow two additional votes to be rounded up from the hallway after it stalled at 20 yes votes.

In a 24-9 vote, the Senate also approved a bill (S-11), which would create a state-controlled Atlantic City Tourism District to include the portions of the city containing casinos. The legislation would also eliminate the Atlantic City Convention and Visitors Authority and moved its functions, as well as its hotel tax, to the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority.

Atlantic City overhaul legislation sponsor Sen. Jim Whelan (D-Atlantic) said the bill is needed to modernize regulations on Atlantic City that haven’t been revised since their creation in the 1970s.

"Atlantic City is in a tailspin. The regulatory model is very expensive and outdated," Whelan, the former mayor of the resort town, said. "We, as a state, have a lot involved in Atlantic City."

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/12/nj_senate_approves_bills_desig.html

Nexis4Jersey
December 31st, 2010, 03:02 PM
I love how the state spends this amount of time and $$$ trying to fix up AC but not Camden , Newark , East Orange and Irvington.

arcman210
December 31st, 2010, 07:51 PM
The state dumps plenty of money into all those cities too... hence the huge budget defecit.

millertime83
January 4th, 2011, 01:39 PM
^ "Why do you keep saying Borgata is not in AC proper?"

You are right... it is in AC. It is within the city boundries.

Marsh lands are also in AC.

The Borgata is off on it's own... disconnected from the city... not part of the city street grid, separated by Brigantine Blvd. That's why it has had more of a chance to be succesful....it's outside of the blight that is AC. People going there drive in to parking... take an elevator up and later drive out again. There is no contact with the city. No possibility to walk on the Boardwalk or the city streets. You are separated. And that was the point of my comment.

----

Gentrification: back in 1974 when the issue of gambling was first floated, large swaths of AC were amazingly intact....and still beautiful. It was not just "a haphazard mix of non matching wood frame structures." The large scale desruction ( apart from Paline's Prarie) began in the late 70's.

As for:"Also AC has a black supermajority that will do anything to preserve that majority status."

That's very true now... and I agree probably irreversable...but it was not the case in AC 35 years ago when Farley etc. were in power. Remember ACs population is less now than it was before gambling. After gambling, the remaining middleclass sold and left. And today's city government reflects the current populace.

But as to what would have happened to AC with out gambling... we can only both speculate.

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"Obviously you have never been to AC."

Oh really?

You can walk from Borgata to Harrah's and Trump Marina.

lofter1
January 4th, 2011, 01:56 PM
Yeah, but it's quite a hike (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Brigantine+Boulevard,+Atlantic+City,+New+Jersey&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.176833,68.203125&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Brigantine+Blvd,+Atlantic+City,+Atlantic,+Ne w+Jersey&ll=39.371066,-74.436836&spn=0.047242,0.066605&t=h&z=14) (especially in high heels).

On the other hand, should you be so inclined, you can walk all the way to Philly -- It's a straight shot (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Brigantine+Boulevard,+Atlantic+City,+New+Jersey&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.176833,68.203125&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Brigantine+Blvd,+Atlantic+City,+Atlantic,+Ne w+Jersey&ll=39.578173,-74.893799&spn=1.507251,2.131348&t=h&z=9).

Fabrizio
January 4th, 2011, 04:08 PM
Me walking from the Borgata to Harrah's:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7WNHhcdjkg&feature=related

lofter1
January 4th, 2011, 08:35 PM
Thanks -- I needed that!

66nexus
January 9th, 2011, 09:38 PM
THE DAILY



Friday, January 7, 2011 09:59 AM


Borgata’s performance in Atlantic City impresses Barclays (http://www.njbiz.com//article-multiple/85259-borgata-barclays)
By Joe St. Arney (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;)


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Boyd Gaming Corp. brought a bit of good news to beleaguered Atlantic City casino scene earlier this week, when London investment firm Barclays Capital upgraded the gaming company's stock.

Boyd, the parent company of The Borgata, the city’s newest casino, saw its price share target raised from $7 to $13 per share as a result of its strength in fending off competitors from Pennsylvania and other states, which have increasingly turned to casino gaming to shore up revenue shortfalls.

“In Atlantic City, Borgata has withstood new competition in Philadelphia well, outperforming our estimates so far in fourth-quarter 2010,” Barclays reported in an investment note.

London-based Barclays also expects a pickup in Las Vegas gaming, which should improve Boyd’s numbers, as well.

E-mail Joe Arney at jarney@njbiz.com

taken from nj.biz

66nexus
January 9th, 2011, 09:46 PM
The state dumps plenty of money into all those cities too... hence the huge budget defecit.

It took a lot more than that to give NJ its deficit.

stache
January 10th, 2011, 04:04 AM
My Philly ex told me people have been getting robbed of their winnings in the SugarHouse parking lot.

Ninjahedge
January 14th, 2011, 08:30 AM
The main problem is the isolationism that AC made when it started making these casinos in the 70's.

They pretty much claimed the whole oceanfront and put up their walled backsides to the surrounding community, which eventually became the areas where the "help" lived.

In order to survive, AC needs to find a way to re-integrate itself with teh surrounding area and try to give not only tourists areason to come, but residents something to aspire to and look favorably on.

What is it that made towns like Hoboken go from warehouse district watering holes (STELLA!!!) to Uber-yuppified cash pots? The commute was always there? What is making so many other NJ shore areas so expensive but hoping AC breaks off and drifts off LI somewhere?

These guys are building castles to isolate them from their surroundings when it is actually the castles themselves that are the creators of their own environment they now seek to seperate themselves from.

arcman210
January 14th, 2011, 08:40 AM
The casinos were never about redeveloping the city. They were about making money for themselves. Now that the casinos are starting to fail because of neighboring states competition, the talk of redevelopment in the city is starting to heat up.

Now that the desire to build mega-casinos is dissapearing, much of that unclaimed land (ie the massive tract where the sands used to sit) could be used to create other types of districts for the city. I think its too early to tell what kinds of things might be planned, or if anything will ever materialize.

stache
January 14th, 2011, 09:52 AM
Hoboken flipped because it's one stop from Manhattan.

Ninjahedge
January 14th, 2011, 10:37 AM
stache, yes and no.

It took a LONG time for that to sink in. The PATH has always been there, and there has been train service from most of Northern NJ for quite some time now.

In the 70's everyone moved out of NYC and the area anyway, but it took until the mid 90's for things to pick up in Hoboken? Some progres gets mired in various muck and just does not keep pace.....

66nexus
January 17th, 2011, 05:23 PM
Atlantic City Airport sets record for travelers with 1.4M passengers


Published: Monday, January 17, 2011, 5:17 PM Updated: Monday, January 17, 2011, 5:17 PM


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A 2006 file photo of the Atlantic City International Airport.



EGG HARBOR TOWNSHIP (http://www.nj.com/egg-harbor-township) — An expansion is under way at Atlantic City Airport, and it appears to be just in time.
The airport announced today that it handled more passengers in 2010 than in any year since commercial service began there in 1985.
More than 1.4 million passengers flew in or out of the airport last year, an 8 percent increase over the previous high set in 2007. It's a 31 percent increase in scheduled service over 2009.


South Jersey Transportation Authority official credit the increase to added service routes to Atlanta and Boston. This spring, Spirit Airlines will launch service to Los Angeles and Las Vegas through Chicago.
The airport's $25 million expansion will add passenger boarding bridges, more room for planes to park and an expanded baggage claim area.

AC11
January 26th, 2011, 04:58 PM
Within two weeks Revel will be moving forward again. Big News for AC and a big step forward for all that hope to see a turnaround.

While there are a lot of shortcomings with Revel and especially the design of the structure, this is good news all around.

arcman210
February 1st, 2011, 01:49 PM
Revel construction to resume, to open in June 2012... tourism district established.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/02/gov_christie_signs_atlantic_ci.html
Gov. Christie signs legislation establishing Atlantic City Tourism District

Published: Tuesday, February 01, 2011, 11:58 AM Updated: Tuesday, February 01, 2011, 12:27 PM

By Ginger Gibson/Statehouse Bureau (http://connect.nj.com/user/ggibson/index.html)

ATLANTIC CITY (http://www.nj.com/politics) — The governor has signed legislation that reforms the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority and establish the Atlantic City Tourism District.
He signed the bill at the Revel Casino Atrium at the intersection of Connecticut and Oriental Avenues at 11 a.m.
Gov. Christie also said the state's Economic Development Authority has approved funding to help finish the Revel casino site. The state will get 20 percent of the profit.
Christie said Atlantic City Mayor Lorenzo Langford's refusal to attend the event is grandstanding, and called his comments "bologna."
One of the two bills transfers authority from the Casino Control Commission to the Division of Gaming Enforcement in the Department of Law and Public Safety.
The other bill establishes the Atlantic City Tourism District and broadens the powers of the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority.
Senators Tom Kean Jr. (R-Union), Steve Sweeney (D-Gloucester) and Jeff Van Drew (D-Cape May) were also in attendance.
Christie said the signing was held at the Revel because it's an example of what can be done when Republicans and Democrats work together.

stache
February 1st, 2011, 07:03 PM
I wonder if they are going to have an observation deck?

arcman210
February 1st, 2011, 09:09 PM
They should... great location on the inlet. The tower is only being fit out with 1100 rooms (originally set for 1900) so theres definitely some wiggle room at the top if they so desire. Observation deck/restaurant combo on the top few floors would be very unique for Atlantic City, and probably quite popular. Quite a great idea if you ask me.

stache
February 2nd, 2011, 02:37 AM
I bet you could see Philly from up there.

arcman210
February 2nd, 2011, 07:45 AM
Probably could... I was able to see it from an airplane window while landing at AC Airport

66nexus
February 17th, 2011, 03:28 PM
Revel Entertainment gets $1B financing to finish Atlantic City casino

Published: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 1:59 PM Updated: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 2:02 PM

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AP Photo/Mel Evans

Construction of Revel Casino is seen in 2009 in Atlantic City.
ATLANTIC CITY (http://www.nj.com/atlantic-city) —

Revel Entertainment said Thursday that it has secured the final $1 billion-plus it needs to finish its half-built casino on the Atlantic City Boardwalk, a project that is widely considered the best chance for the nation's second-largest gambling market to recover from four years of plunging revenue.

The remaining $1.15 billion in financing was secured today, and work on the stalled project will resume as quickly as possible, Kevin DeSanctis, Revel's CEO, told The Associated Press.

In what was surely an understatement, he described himself as "a little relieved."
"We're extremely pleased to be moving forward," DeSanctis said. "We think we will have a really positive impact on Atlantic City and South Jersey."

Revel was begun in 2007, before the national recession hit and credit markets dried up. It ran out of money in January 2009 and halted work with just the exterior nearing completion.

Gov. Chris Christie has committed $261 million in state tax credits to help Revel once it's open.

It will open in the summer of 2012 with 1,100 hotel rooms, and is likely to be Atlantic City's last mega-resort for some time.
When fully operational, Revel will employ 5,500 people. It will generate about 2,000 construction jobs, providing a much-needed boost for the southern New Jersey economy.

But just as big is the psychological boost that completion of Revel will provide for Atlantic City.
Wall Street giant Morgan Stanley, the project's major backer, pulled out in April 2010, deciding it was better to take a nearly $1 billion loss on the project than see it through to completion.

Nothing about Revel has come easily. Six months before its developers ran out of money, and interior construction slammed to a halt, three key executives working on the project died in a plane crash in Minnesota.

The city's casino service workers union campaigned against a $350 million tax break the casino sought, fearing the new development could cause other casinos to close and throw its members out of work.

Even the wind has targeted Revel, toppling a construction crane off its roof. When welders were dismantling what was left of the crane, part of the building caught fire.

The ocean-themed casino is being built at the northern end of the Boardwalk, next to the Showboat Casino Hotel. Its gently sloping contours are designed to appear sculpted by ocean waves.

stache
February 17th, 2011, 07:45 PM
Does this mean they will build the second tower?

arcman210
February 17th, 2011, 10:29 PM
Doubtful for now... each tower was supposed to have 1900 rooms and the hotel will initially open with only 1100 rooms in the tower, presumably either this means the floor plans will be altered for larger rooms or more suites, or they will leave many floors unfinished temporarily.

stache
February 18th, 2011, 05:27 AM
Hard to imagine they still need a billion to finish one tower.

arcman210
February 18th, 2011, 07:32 AM
The second tower was postponed well before the project stalled.. They claimed it would be built after the casino opened and demand increased. They still need to fit out the casino as well... the garden pier (the one across the bw from Revel) is also supposedly being rebuilt, so maybe some of the money is going to that as well? This is a 700 foot tower that is being fit out with all the hotel rooms, restaurants, and casino floor space, unlike office buildings where the tenants fit out their spaces, so I could see the billion dollars going to just the one tower. The building is a complete shell at this point.

Newarkguy
April 20th, 2011, 08:10 AM
Casino agency approves stete control of tourism district. A large chunk of the city is no longer under the mercy of zoning laws designed to frustrate and stall gentrification(reverse racism).The city claimed the district left the population of 44thousand without a voice.( This exemplifies the communist socialist mentality of inner city politicians.Before you build, the surrounding ghetto must approve?!) Thank goodness this went through for AC. Mayor Langford called the district a form of apartheid!! This confirms my belief that the only reason AC has not rwdeveloped middle and upper luxury homes, despite the waterfront, is the city governments hatred towards nonblacks, especially whites moving in. See the Nj section in today's Newark Star Ledger.

arcman210
April 20th, 2011, 09:55 AM
The local government and residents had 30+ years to get the job done. So much beachfront real estate sitting almost completely vacant, if they couldn't figure out a way to fix that then what would they ever be able to do?

Fabrizio
April 20th, 2011, 10:04 AM
Most of AC is in worse shape now then it was back in 1975.

This new plan is closer to old-time AC when the city was sharply segregated into the "good section" and "the bad section".

Now it's official.

Unfortunately I can't see how the city can recover without a plan like this.

futurecity
April 20th, 2011, 11:08 AM
Atlantic City could be the Miami of the north soon enough? LOL!

futurecity
April 20th, 2011, 11:13 AM
Hell, hopefully could free up some of NY's congested airspace. Maybe not by a huge margin (given the distance), but by more than enough.

It would only be a bit player. There is no possible way it could relieve the big 3 given the distance. If stewart wouldn't work which is much closer, Atlantic City wouldn't either.

66nexus
April 20th, 2011, 03:26 PM
It would only be a bit player. There is no possible way it could relieve the big 3 given the distance. If stewart wouldn't work which is much closer, Atlantic City wouldn't either.

I think Stewart and AC are apples/oranges. Stewart is closer but not by enough to make it an attractive alternative, whereas AC is more of a destination in itself. It could possibly command more carriers (even if, say, Philly's airport would max out).

There is one possible way AC could relieve the big 3 but it's kind of far-fetched: high-speed rail.

Nexis4Jersey
April 20th, 2011, 04:01 PM
There is a route that branches off the NJCL , that can be used to connect the Northern NJ / NYC areas with South Jersey via the Atlantic City line. Its straight , flat and can be as fast as the nec with Electrification , very little in the way of grade crossings. Part of it form Red Bank to Lakehurst will be restored as part of the MOM network its south of Lakehurst that needs the work.

BBMW
August 10th, 2011, 04:54 PM
This would be the final nail in the coffin:


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/10/nyregion/cuomo-considering-end-to-constitutional-ban-on-casino-gambling.html?ref=nyregion

Cuomo Weighs Ending State Limits on Casino GamblingBy THOMAS KAPLANGov. Andrew M. Cuomo (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/andrew_m_cuomo/index.html?inline=nyt-per), suggesting it was time for the state to “come to grips” with the proliferation of gambling in New York and neighboring states, said Tuesday that he was weighing the legalization of commercial, non-Indian casinos in New York State.
Mr. Cuomo’s comments come as the state’s racetrack casinos, which have electronic slot machines but not the more lucrative table games, prepare to mount a high-profile lobbying effort to push the State Legislature to let them expand into full-fledged casinos.
The governor said his administration was “actively” investigating whether full-scale commercial gambling should be legalized in the state, a move that would quite likely draw significant public disagreement but could offer huge financial benefits for the state and be a source of upstate jobs.
“It’s really not an issue anymore of ‘Well, if we don’t officially sanction it as a government, it’s not going to happen,’ ” Mr. Cuomo said at a news conference in Albany. “It is happening.”
“So now you have to go to the second step,” he added. “If there is going to be gaming, how should it be done? And that issue, that question, is an important question for the state.”
New York has five Indian-run casinos, all of them upstate. Limited electronic gambling is permitted at so-called racinos at eight tracks and is set to begin at a ninth, the Aqueduct racetrack in Queens, later this year.
The State Constitution prohibits other forms of commercial gambling, and amending the Constitution would be the biggest roadblock. Passing an amendment requires approval from two consecutive Legislatures, followed by a public referendum.
But New York State would stand to gain significant revenue from lifting the ban. The state expects to earn $684 million this year from its share of the revenue from the racinos; allowing them to expand into full-blown casinos would substantially raise that figure.
Seeking to allow the racinos to expand, or for new commercial casinos to be built, would most likely draw stiff opposition from opponents of legalized gambling and from the state’s Indian tribes, who would see their gambling facilities face more competition.
The Oneida Indian Nation, which operates the Turning Stone casino in the Mohawk Valley, noted the relatively cumbersome process to amend the Constitution and suggested it was hardly a certain avenue for the Cuomo administration to pursue.
Mark F. Emery, an Oneida spokesman, said the Cuomo administration might instead “bring gaming to the state promptly and assuredly under already-existing laws by working closely with its in-state Indian nations to enjoy immediate revenue sharing, which would benefit the entire state.”
Previous governors grappled with what to do about casinos. Lawmakers in the 1990s began the process of approving an amendment to end the ban on gambling, but support for the proposal evaporated before it could pass the Legislature a second time.
More recently, a measure to allow five commercial casinos to open upstate passed the State Senate last year but was not considered in the State Assembly, and the proposal was not brought up in the legislative session that ended in June.
But lawmakers are planning to make another push beginning in the legislative session that starts in January, and they have said Cuomo administration staff members have privately signaled an openness to considering a constitutional amendment that would allow for commercial casinos.
State Senator John J. Bonacic, a Republican from Orange County, is chairman of two committees that deal with casino issues — the Judiciary Committee and the Racing, Gaming and Wagering Committee. He has scheduled hearings for September to discuss how to proceed on the issue of casinos.
“They haven’t been giving me any direction,” Mr. Bonacic said Tuesday of the governor’s office, “but at the same time they haven’t discouraged me.”
Mr. Bonacic said he was heartened by Mr. Cuomo’s interest in considering the possibility of commercial casinos, as was Assemblyman J. Gary Pretlow, a Democrat from Westchester County who is chairman of the Assembly Racing and Wagering Committee.
“I’m hoping that he sees it in a positive light and we can move forward,” Mr. Pretlow said, “because I think it would be an economic boon for the State of New York.”
In June, Mr. Cuomo appointed Bennett Liebman, a former commissioner of the New York State Racing and Wagering Board, as his gambling adviser; aides to the governor said Mr. Liebman had been given the task of undertaking a broad review of all gambling in the state, including horse racing, Indian-run casinos and the lottery.
The nine racetrack casinos, meanwhile, have banded together to start the New York Gaming Association, which is expected to begin advocating for a constitutional amendment later this year.
Among its backers is Genting New York, a subsidiary of the largest gambling company in England and Southeast Asia, which paid a $380 million upfront licensing fee last year for the right to install 4,525 video slot machines at the Aqueduct racetrack, which it would like to turn into a full-fledged casino.

lofter1
August 11th, 2011, 12:17 AM
No need to go that route. People may want to be free to gamble, but hardly anybody comes out ahead. Times are tough enough without putting this temptation in front of everybody's face.

stache
August 11th, 2011, 04:04 AM
Yes but when did that stop anybody?

lofter1
August 11th, 2011, 08:35 AM
That's my point. For the most part the individuals who gamble come up losers. Is it worth it to feed the state coffers if the locals lose what they can't really afford to throw away?

stache
August 11th, 2011, 09:52 AM
In this climate, no one cares.

BBMW
August 11th, 2011, 10:49 AM
In large part that ship has sailed already. With AC, Eastern CT, the PA casinos, the slot barn @ Yonkers raceway, the lottery, etc., people can gamble if they want to, and with more of the abusive kinds of gambling (want to know the odds on the lottery).

Why not let them do it here? I'd rather see the jobs and money stay in NYS/NYC than go to NJ, CT, and PA. And the jobs casinos create tend to be the types of jobs that have been eliminated the most, ones that can be done by a high school grads without college, and tend to be unionized with decent pay/tips and good benefits.


That's my point. For the most part the individuals who gamble come up losers. Is it worth it to feed the state coffers if the locals lose what they can't really afford to throw away?

stache
August 11th, 2011, 12:42 PM
I still think it's sad that our country is headed in this direction.

STT757
April 15th, 2012, 01:07 PM
My Wife and I checked out the Revel yesterday, it's not fully opened yet but we were impressed. My favorite thing about the Revel, no smoking!... That is what kills the experience at the Borgata, having the smell of cigarettes all over your clothes and hair etc.. Ate at the Amada at Revel, real nice.

http://photos.nj.com/4641/gallery/032012revel/index.html

eddhead
April 16th, 2012, 10:33 AM
I never understood how casinos got away with allowing smoking. And is ALL casinos everywhere. Good for the Revel

GordonGecko
April 16th, 2012, 02:12 PM
Interesting, that is an excellent way to distinguish yourself down there. Generally casinos have avoided that especially to make sure they don't keep away high rollers. But I'm sure there's enough non-smoking high rollers out there and enough people who avoid second hand smoke to make up for that loss

BBMW
April 20th, 2012, 01:30 PM
My general assumption is that a larger % of people in the gambling populatin than the general population smoke, so the casinos were afraid of the impact.

My preferred (and really only) form of gambling is live poker. The poker rooms never allow smoking.

66nexus
May 1st, 2012, 05:20 AM
Best Places to Visit in July

BY JUSTIN (http://www.bookingadvisor.com/blog/archives/author/justin) · JULY 2, 2010 · NO COMMENTS (http://www.bookingadvisor.com/blog/archives/1373#respond)

July is the peak of the summer season, and therefore the world has outstanding holiday destinations to offer. The superb coastlines, as well as the mountains are perfect this time of the year, when temperatures are hot and the overall ambiance is cheerful and lively. From the craziest to the calmest places, from romantic spots to adventurous locations, July is certainly marvelous.

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Barcelona – Spain’s (http://www.bookingadvisor.com/c/Spain.htm) largest city after Madrid (http://www.bookingadvisor.com/t/Madrid.htm), Barcelona (http://www.bookingadvisor.com/t/Barcelona.htm) is more beautiful than ever before in July. Located on the Mediterranean Sea’s coastline the metropolis has great activities, superb beaches and paramount landscapes. For travelers who love the sun, Barcelona is an ultimate summer choice. Within the city, everyone will find various accommodation systems, numerous restaurants and bar, as well as interesting and fun amenities to enjoy. Photo By: nailsduffy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nailsduffy/)

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Cairo – For those in love with culture, Cairo (http://www.bookingadvisor.com/t/Cairo.htm) is a fine choice for a vacation in July. Although the hot temperatures might stay in the way, the overall scenery of the city is remarkable. Such adventure within Cairo will definitely amaze every tourist. The Nile River that crosses the capital and its entire panorama are breathtaking, while the people are welcoming and friendly. Cairo is urban but traditionally valued and admired by its inhabitants, while the overall ambiance is soothing and relaxing for everyone who decides to enjoy a trip to Egypt (http://www.bookingadvisor.com/c/Egypt.htm). Photo By: M Haykal (http://www.flickr.com/photos/haykal/)

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Atlantic City – Located in New Jersey (http://www.bookingadvisor.com/s/New_Jersey.htm) USA, on the Atlantic Ocean’s coastlines the metropolis is adventurous, fun and full of cool activities to enjoy. Tourists come to Atlantic City (http://www.bookingadvisor.com/t/Atlantic_City.htm) in July because the weather is warm, however not too hot. Famous for its beaches and casinos, the location is suitable for tourists who love the sun and the ocean. Regarding accommodation, choices are varied, as there are numerous hotels in the area to select, while the abundant shops, cafes and restaurants will certainly keep tourists busy and entertained. Atlantic City has everything a modern traveler needs to spend an incredible holiday, crazy atmosphere and gorgeous scenery. Photo By: localrager609 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/localrager609/)

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The Rocky Mountains – The United States of America (http://www.bookingadvisor.com/c/United_States.htm) features an ideal destination in July. However, because of the burning temperature numerous travelers venture themselves into the Rocky Mountains, one of the world’s most impressive landscapes. Around this area, there are numerous splendid places to explore like Moraine Lake or Banff National Park. Moreover, in case you’re looking for real time adventure, you can even escalade the mountains and pump live a true thrilling experience throughout the mountains. Photo By: Aspenbreeze (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aspenbreeze/)

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Belize – Although Belize (http://www.bookingadvisor.com/c/Belize.htm) is such a small country in Central America, its overview is stunning. Opened to the Caribbean Sea, the location will make every tourist enjoy such incredible place. Especially during the summer season, when the wide beaches are awaiting for their tourists, the country will surely create an engaging vacation. Suitable for honeymoons and romantic escapades, Belize has also an unbelievable Barrier reef where fishing and boat trips are highly recommended. Spend an amazing time off, enjoy the weather and get ready for this heavenly landscape in Central America. Photo By: Bob Reck (http://www.flickr.com/photos/u2sockmonkey/)


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stache
May 1st, 2012, 07:27 AM
They forgot Afganistan. :rolleyes:

BBMW
October 24th, 2012, 01:28 AM
I think they're starting to nail AC Coffin shut. I'm just waiting for a solid, full service casino in NYC (not just a slot barn.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/24/nyregion/aqueduct-casinos-success-may-spur-industry-expansion-in-new-york.html?hpw

Simple but Local, Queens Slots Are Hurting Gambling Meccas

By CHARLES V. BAGLI (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/charles_v_bagli/index.html)

A casino that opened a year ago at the fading Aqueduct horse racing track in Queens has emerged as the country’s highest-grossing slot parlor, helping to reshape the gambling landscape in the Northeast as patrons chose less opulent, more local casinos instead of traditional gambling meccas in Atlantic City and Connecticut.
The casino, Resorts World Casino New York City (http://rwnewyork.com/), generated nearly $630 million in revenue over the last 12 months from electronic slot machines, more than the slots at any of the 12 casinos in Atlantic City or at Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun in Connecticut. The average income from an electronic slot machine is more than $370 a day, compared with $169 for slots on the Strip in Las Vegas.
The success of the casino, the only one in the five boroughs of New York, suggests that no matter how luxurious the accommodations or exciting the entertainment, nothing appeals more to gamblers than a casino that is nearby. More than 5.6 million people live within 10 miles — a short subway ride or car trip — of the casino, which expects to see its 10 millionth customer by the end of October. At the same time, the runaway success of the casino is also expected to affect how the administration of Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo moves ahead with plans to approve more, larger casinos around the state.
“Convenience and location are the driving factors today,” said William R. Eadington, director of the University of Nevada’s Institute for the Study of Gambling and Commercial Gaming. “If you put a casino in a high-density population like Queens, you’ll do well.”
And others will not. Casino revenues in Atlantic City have dropped 36 percent, from a high of $5.2 billion in 2006 to $3.3 billion last year. Revenues are also down at Connecticut casinos. Last month, Mohegan Sun in Uncasville, Conn., the world’s largest casino, announced it would lay off another 328 workers, blaming the casino at Aqueduct and a weak economy.
“I used to go to Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods on the fast ferry,” said Ralph Barbaro, 77, a retired salesman, as he played a slot machine at Resorts World. “This is very convenient. It takes me 20, 25 minutes to get here from my home on Long Island.”
Genting New York, a subsidiary of the largest gambling company in England and Southeast Asia, opened the casino last fall (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/28/nyregion/new-yorks-first-casino-at-aqueduct-racetrack-is-set-to-open.html), with 4,525 electronic slot machines and 475 electronic table games. Genting transformed the aging grandstand at Aqueduct, where racing seldom drew a crowd, into a palace packed with clanging machines, restaurants and gamblers. There are now nine racetrack slot parlors and five tribal casinos in New York.
New York’s slot parlors currently pay the highest tax rate in the nation, a total of 60 percent or more, compared with less than 10 percent in Las Vegas and Atlantic City. By law, the bulk of the money, 44 percent or $3.3 billion since 2006, goes to education.
There are similar success stories in other states. Gamblers no longer have to get on a plane or endure a three-hour bus ride to play slot machines and blackjack now that casinos and slot parlors have proliferated across Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island. More casinos are on their way in Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Maine. “This trend is really tough on traditional hotel-casinos with 1,000-room hotels,” Mr. Eadington said. “They have trouble filling the rooms.”
With the proliferation of casinos and slot parlors, the Connecticut and Atlantic City establishments are not the only ones feeling the pinch of competition. Empire City Casino in Yonkers, until recently the most profitable of New York slot parlors, says it has seen a 15 percent drop in business since Resorts World opened.
The success of Resorts World comes amid a continuing debate about expanding gambling in New York State with larger, more varied casinos than Aqueduct’s.
Resorts World’s record-setting numbers raise this fundamental question: Will the state take in more or less money from gambling if Governor Cuomo is successful in authorizing as many as seven full-scale casinos — poker, live table games and entertainment, not just slot machines — around the state?
Earlier this year, the State Legislature began the process of amending the State Constitution to permit gambling beyond slot machines, which are considered part of the lottery.
State officials and gambling executives say they believe that major resort-casinos, especially one in Manhattan, would be an enormous boon to the economy. Casino proponents say that operators would pay as much as $1 billion for a license in New York City. And some experts contend that resort-casinos employ seven workers for every $1 million gambled, while slot parlors average only three jobs for the same sum.
But the proliferation of local slot parlors and casinos could also be used as an argument against additional casinos, because each one appears to be stealing customers from the others in order to succeed. A full-scale casino in New York City or on Long Island would attract huge crowds, experts say, and almost certainly put a big dent in profits at Yonkers and Aqueduct. “You may be successful with a commercial casino in New York City, but there’s going to be collateral damage,” said Alan Woinski, president of Gaming USA, which publishes analyses of the gambling industry. “Everybody thinks casinos print money. Those days are over. The market is becoming saturated.”
State officials contend, however, that gambling is still growing in New York, where revenues jumped to $1.4 billion in the last fiscal year from $875.2 million in 2007. The Aqueduct and Yonkers casinos together generated more than $1.1 billion in revenue in the past year, more than double what Empire City did a year earlier. Officials say they want to balance economic development and tax revenue while avoiding pitfalls of increased competition and tax rate changes.
But Genting, MGM Resorts, Las Vegas Sands and the other gambling companies that want to build full-scale casinos in New York also say they want the tax rate slashed substantially in order to justify building a $2 billion resort-casino.
With a drop in revenue in some slot parlors and a lower tax rate at the full casino, the state could well see a decline in direct revenues to education from the nearly $1 billion a year it currently gets from the slot parlors.
Karim Camara, a state assemblyman from Brooklyn who leads the Black, Puerto Rican, Hispanic and Asian legislative caucus, said he had “serious reservations” about any plan that would reduce education money.
Clyde W. Barrow, director of the Center for Policy Analysis at the University of Massachusetts, Dartmouth, said that the expansion question pitted tax revenue against jobs and economic development. “Most states have had to choose one or the other,” he said. “The states that adopted the resort model have lower tax rates.”
Mr. Woinski, the industry analyst, says that New York may be better off with the status quo.
“They’ve got the best thing going right now in New York,” he said, “with racetracks willing to give up almost 70 percent of revenues.”

66nexus
October 24th, 2012, 02:01 AM
^That article seems to point out that all the gambling zones are cannibalizing each other; which is to be expected because it's not like there's a fresh wave of new gamblers every year, it's generally the same folks being diced up into these different markets. There's more casinos planned too, so the $$ numbers will only get smaller.

BBMW
October 24th, 2012, 09:59 AM
This is true, but since this is a NYC centric board, the question is, how does this affect NYC?

For a long time, the regional gambling centers (AC, Easthern CT) have been feasting on gamblers from Metro NY, not a small % of which are from NYC. It's time NYC took a good chunk of that money. PA figured this out, now it's our turn. If AC and Foxwoods/Mohigan Sun take the hit, it's not our problem.

66nexus
October 24th, 2012, 08:29 PM
This is true, but since this is a NYC centric board, the question is, how does this affect NYC?

For a long time, the regional gambling centers (AC, Easthern CT) have been feasting on gamblers from Metro NY, not a small % of which are from NYC. It's time NYC took a good chunk of that money. PA figured this out, now it's our turn. If AC and Foxwoods/Mohigan Sun take the hit, it's not our problem.


The overall board is NYC centric...but this section is for outer areas and the thread is AC specific. True, AC/ Foxwoods have and will continue to take hits, but the more casinos open up, the smaller the piece of the overall pie would be, including NY. In the article it even suggests keeping things the way they are as not to add too much competition.

stache
October 25th, 2012, 07:58 AM
That's not the nature of capitalism. Industries tend to grow to a saturation point, then something else takes over (internet gambling?) and then the old industry declines.

Nexis4Jersey
July 15th, 2013, 03:44 AM
Some pictures from Saturday...

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017 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/9281105270/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

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018 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/9281105156/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

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020 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/9278320849/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

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021 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/9278320729/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

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022 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/9281104752/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

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023 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/9278317829/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

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025 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/9278320395/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

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026 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/9278317819/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

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029 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/9281104314/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

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038 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/9278319381/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

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041 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/9281101784/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

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045 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/42178139@N06/9281101750/) by Nexis4Jersey09 (http://www.flickr.com/people/42178139@N06/), on Flickr

mariab
July 15th, 2013, 12:32 PM
Nice pics. The ocean looks so inviting especially during a heat wave. Btw did you win or donate?

Nexis4Jersey
July 16th, 2013, 03:42 AM
Nice pics. The ocean looks so inviting especially during a heat wave. Btw did you win or donate?

The Beach was abit dirty and the Water was freezing.... I won 50$....on slots...

mariab
July 16th, 2013, 04:00 PM
Congrats. They said the water was colder this year. Probably because we haven't had the early extended warmups like we usually do, but at least we had a nice long Spring transition from Winter to Summer. Usually we get a couple weeks of Spring then bam, it's 90 degrees.

I remember sometime in the early 2000s, we were down at IBSP, and it was during a drought. Because of that, the bacteria level in the water was extremely low, and as a result the water was the clearest I've ever seen it. We could go in up to our necks and see every grain of sand on the bottom. Never thought we'd see that in NJ. Won't happen this year though, too much rain.

GordonGecko
July 16th, 2013, 04:07 PM
The Beach was abit dirty and the Water was freezing.... I won 50$....on slots...
I prefer the $25 per coin slots myself. No risk no reward :D

towerpower123
November 13th, 2013, 10:20 AM
Art inspires transformation of Atlantic City landscapehttp://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/press/atlantic/art-inspires-transformation-of-atlantic-city-landscape/article_208d8178-4a83-11e3-85ad-0019bb2963f4.html

CRDA to fund Columbus' trip in Atlantic Cityhttp://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/communities/atlantic-city_pleasantville_brigantine/crda-to-fund-columbus-trip-in-atlantic-city/article_a0f3af26-3607-11e3-98ef-001a4bcf887a.html

Nexis4Jersey
May 12th, 2014, 05:43 PM
The Skyline from the train

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Nexis4Jersey
May 12th, 2014, 05:47 PM
The Outlets

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lofter1
May 12th, 2014, 05:56 PM
Charm Free, sorry to say :(

Nexis4Jersey
May 12th, 2014, 05:58 PM
Revel Casino and Beach

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Nexis4Jersey
May 12th, 2014, 06:14 PM
The Boardwalk and misc

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GordonGecko
May 12th, 2014, 10:40 PM
That Revel sure brings the exciting suburban industrial park chic to the party

EastMillinocket
May 13th, 2014, 12:36 AM
I visited this dilapidated city a couple months ago for the first time. I told my friend every casino has a theme and he asked what was Revel's theme. I couldn't think of anything so I said corporate architecture.

stache
May 13th, 2014, 05:34 AM
^ Lol Gordon!