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kingdavid
June 8th, 2004, 01:39 PM
I wonder if the Mets will finish over .500 this year.

I hope so.

Kris
July 5th, 2004, 05:59 AM
July 5, 2004

METS 6, YANKEES 5

Mets Sweep Aside Years of Frustration Against Yanks

By TYLER KEPNER

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Richard Hidalgo's home run in the seventh was his third in the series.

There has not been much joy for the Mets since Bernie Williams dropped to a knee on the Shea Stadium grass, the final out of the 2000 World Series tucked safely in his glove. The Mets have hardly sniffed contention, struggling to stay relevant in George Steinbrenner's New York.

For one dizzying weekend, everything changed. It took eight seasons of interleague play, but the Mets finally swept a three-game series and won a season series from the Yankees. They blew out the Yankees on Friday and outlasted them for one-run victories the next two days, proving a point across the boroughs.

"We probably earned a lot of respect from those guys," the Mets' Cliff Floyd said. "Does it mean anything? Probably not. But it means a lot to us."

On a weekend in which they deliberately did not use their two best starters, the Mets won with a relentless offense. Yesterday, they lost a three-run lead but won, 6-5, when Ty Wigginton's second home run of the game broke a tie in the eighth inning.

"They probably wanted it more than we did," said Yankees reliever Tom Gordon, who allowed the game winner. "They played harder. We played good baseball. Don't get me wrong; we played hard. But they didn't quit. They absolutely did not quit, and they played winning baseball. That's a good ball club over there."

The Mets are two games over .500 for the first time this season. They are heading to Philadelphia knowing that they will be tied for first place in the National League East if Tom Glavine and Al Leiter win the next two games there.

"There's certainly some satisfaction and gratification in playing this series here and doing well, doing something we haven't done before," Mets infielder Todd Zeile said. "I think the good part about it is that we did it at a time when we need to continue to play quality baseball, because we've got a chance to make a move in this division right now."

Yankees pitchers had an 8.88 earned run average for the weekend, allowing three home runs in every game. Richard Hidalgo hit one in all three, and Wigginton followed his Saturday homer with the first multihomer game of his career.

He struck first in the second inning against Javier Vazquez, whose familiarity with the Mets might have worked against him. Vazquez, a control specialist, walked five in five innings, including the leadoff hitter three times. Zeile, who played with Vazquez in Montreal last season, said the Mets made sure to resist his high fastballs.

"We made him bring the ball down into the zone, where we could hit it," Zeile said. "We had guys on base, kept him in the stretch, and stuck with that game plan."

Jason Phillips walked to lead off the second, and Wigginton followed by stroking a slider over the right-field wall to give the Mets a 3-0 lead. Starter Jae Seo left with a 4-2 lead in the sixth, and after the Yankees tied it, Hidalgo homered to left off the left-hander Felix Heredia in the seventh.

Manager Joe Torre's use of Heredia against a dangerous right-hander was telling. Torre's starters have not gone six innings since Wednesday and the bullpen was exhausted; yesterday was Paul Quantrill's day to rest.

The weekend demonstrated why the Yankees want to trade for a pitcher to steady their inconsistent rotation.

"You can never have enough pitching," Torre said. "I talked about that in spring training. That's one area where we're thinner than we've been in years here. Not that we don't have the quality, but when something goes wrong, it becomes a struggle."

Gordon has been nearly infallible, but he blew a save on Saturday and was the losing pitcher yesterday. Facing Wigginton with the score tied, 5-5, in the eighth, Gordon hung his second pitch, a slider, in the strike zone. Wigginton walloped it over the left-field wall, and the Mets hung on.

"In one way, it hasn't really sunk in yet," Wigginton said. "Right now, we're just thinking about winning a ballgame. Maybe later, I'll think about how great a day it really was."

The Yankees will play the final seven games before the All-Star Game break at Yankee Stadium, where they may have to brace for an eruption from Steinbrenner, the principal owner.

Steinbrenner had nothing to say last night, according to his spokesman, Howard Rubenstein, but Torre was not discouraged by the sweep.

"You don't enjoy it when you lose," Torre said. "But I was proud, as I'm sure Artie was, with how hard the players played. That's all you can ask. The results aren't always going to be what you want them to be. We've been spoiled, because we've won a lot of those games where we've come back and come from behind. They bent a lot but they didn't break. You really have to give them credit."

Art Howe, the Mets' manager, was happy to take it. He saved Glavine and Leiter and swept the Yankees anyway, and his team matters again.

"It was a great weekend for us," Howe said. "It turned out the way we hoped it would turn out."

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The Mets swept Jorge Posada and the Yankees in a three-game series and won the season series, both for the first time.


SPORTS OF THE TIMES

The Nine Days That Shook New York's Baseball World

By DAVE ANDERSON

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Ty Wigginton's second home run of the day in the eighth inning won the game and completed a series sweep for the Mets over their crosstown rivals.

THESE were the nine days that shook the little world of New York baseball and even rattled windows as far away as Boston.

They shook the Mets into believing that they really are contenders in the National League East, and they shook the Yankees into again doubting their confidence in their postseason rotation.

They also shook the Red Sox into consternation over their wild-card chances.

And now the question is, will the Mets' unprecedented sweep of the weekend series with the Yankees at Shea Stadium shake Fred Wilpon into renting another starting pitcher or a better bullpen setup man in order to overtake the Philadelphia Phillies and keep the Florida Marlins at bay?

Wilpon has already approved one magical move: acquiring Richard Hidalgo, the right fielder with a homer in each of his last four games. But more reinforcements are needed.

The Mets not only swept a three-game interleague series with the Yankees for the first time, they also won four of the six games between the teams for the first time.

Before Alex Rodriguez bounced to third baseman Ty Wigginton - who made yesterday's 6-5 victory possible with two home runs, including one in the eighth inning - virtually all of the 55,437 fans at the game were on their feet, yelling, "Let's go, Mets!" and waving for closer Braden Looper to shut the door.

And waving for Wilpon, the Mets' principal owner, to open his real estate vault again.

Before the nine days began a week ago Saturday, when the Mets won, 9-3, behind Al Leiter at Yankee Stadium, Joe Torre, the Yankees' manager, used the word exhibition to minimize the importance of this interleague series that, to him, is mostly a nuisance. But to the fans of the Yankees and the Mets, it's more of a crusade.

"Yankee fans, enjoy the sweep!" a sarcastic Mets fan on Shea's club level bellowed after the final out. "Enjoy the sweep!"

As for the Yankees, Torre sat in the visiting manager's cramped office, answering questions calmly and patiently, as he always does, but none of the players were in sight. They had apparently disappeared into the privacy of the trainer's room. But as reporters waited to enter the clubhouse, Brian Cashman, the general manager, moved past them without a smile.

Cashman's cellphone almost surely rang last night, and if it did, he didn't have to guess who the caller was. As delighted as George Steinbrenner was with the midweek three-game sweep of the Red Sox at the Stadium, as the Yankees' principal owner, he was most likely livid after his $180 million payroll was swept by the Mets.

And after Friday night's 11-2 rout, they lost games that Steinbrenner pays the Yankees to win: 10-9 on Saturday when reliever Tanyon Sturtze made a late backhanded flip to catcher Jorge Posada as Kazuo Matsui slid home, and 6-5 yesterday on Wigginton's two homers.

"Our starters struggled the last few days," Torre said, "and that played into our bullpen."

If the Mets can shell Mike Mussina, José Contreras and Javier Vazquez, can those starters be trusted to get the Yankees, even if they run away with their division, through the American League playoffs and to the World Series? So look for Steinbrenner to put the hammer on Cashman to snatch a starter. The glamour choice is the left-hander Randy Johnson, toiling for the Arizona Diamondbacks deep in the National League West cellar.

The Mets would also be interested in Johnson, but he reportedly has no desire to leave Arizona. Then again, Curt Schilling, who rode shotgun when Johnson won three games in Arizona's 2001 World Series victory over the Yankees, might persuade him to join the Red Sox for the opportunity to deflate the Yankees again. But only if the Red Sox can stay in contention for the wild card.

As for the Mets, they open a four-game series tonight in Philadelphia; they trail the Phillies by two games and have Tom Glavine, their All-Star left-hander, going against Paul Abbott.

Art Howe, the Mets' manager, chose to save Glavine for the Phillies rather than use him yesterday against the Yankees, because Howe thought the Phillies game was more important. If Glavine beats the Phillies tonight, the Mets, now two games over .500 for the first time this season, at 41-39, will be only one game out of first. After the Philadelphia series, the Mets go to Florida for a three-game weekend series before the All-Star Game break.

"This week," left fielder Cliff Floyd said, "could go a long way toward what we're trying to accomplish."

While the Mets try to climb, the Yankees, with their six All-Stars (Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, Gary Sheffield, Jason Giambi, Mariano Rivera and Tom Gordon) are still sitting pretty, seven and a half games ahead of the Red Sox. But you know that Steinbrenner, receiving the worst possible present on his 74th birthday, won't take the Mets' sweep lying down. Or silently.

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

kingdavid
July 5th, 2004, 08:46 AM
Ya gotta believe.

This team has a chance if they take it.

They have shown some promise.

Time to make some acquisitions to stay in it.

NoyokA
July 5th, 2004, 09:55 AM
Hidalgo's been great for the Mets. What he's played 15 games as a met and has already 6 hr. Acquiring him at his low, he had only 4 hr's untill the acquisition has since payed off big time!

The Mets would be really amazing if they had acquired Vlad Guerreo instead of the virtual-flops Matusi and Cameron. But in other aspects the Mets have been better than expected.

kingdavid
July 5th, 2004, 09:40 PM
Hidalgo's been great for the Mets. What he's played 15 games as a met and has already 6 hr. Acquiring him at his low, he had only 4 hr's untill the acquisition has since payed off big time!

The Mets would be really amazing if they had acquired Vlad Guerreo instead of the virtual-flops Matusi and Cameron. But in other aspects the Mets have been better than expected.

kaz is starting to catch on a bit. i will not give him much grief yet. cameron was fading and a gamble like hidalgo. vlad would have been a catch.

i think the mets have a decent team they can build around.

props to cliff floyd for the game he played tonight in the outfield.

DominicanoNYC
July 9th, 2004, 04:06 PM
IIII'mmm backkk. Well after my long hiatus I'm, and I'm happy to see a forum on my favorite team:D. I hope for the best for them, but that loss yesterday really crushed me, but I belive the Mets will be good enough to make a run for the East.

nike
July 9th, 2004, 05:24 PM
:D lets go yankees mets suck

Jasonik
July 9th, 2004, 05:37 PM
:D lets go yankees mets suck (http://www.zwpatch.com/images/sports/new_york_yankees_suck.jpg)

NoyokA
January 10th, 2005, 08:14 PM
2005 promises to be a better year:

Beltran to be introduced Tuesday:


NEW YORK -- Carlos Beltran passed his physical, and the New York Mets scheduled a news conference for Tuesday at 11 a.m. to announce his $119 million, seven-year contract.

Beltran's agent, Scott Boras, and the Mets reached a preliminary agreement Sunday, and Beltran traveled from Puerto Rico to New York for the medical tests. The All-Star center fielder passed the tests, Mets spokesman Jay Horwitz said, and the team will hold a news conference at Shea Stadium to introduce their new acquisition.

New York's contract calls for Beltran to receive an $11 million signing bonus. Tuesday is the last day before a change in federal rules makes signing bonuses subject to increased taxes.

"I'm very satisfied because we reached a deal," Beltran told the Puerto Rican newspaper Primera Hora. "The Mets showed genuine interest all the way and were willing to commit the way I wanted them to.

"I hope the Houston fans understand because I'm very grateful to them. This was a very difficult process. The reason we could not reach a deal with the Astros was because of a no-trade clause.

"The Astros offered me a seven-year contract, but they would not give me a no-trade clause. At this stage in my career I want stability. To be in a city during all the duration of my contract. New York offered me that stability that Houston did not offer."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

NoyokA
December 14th, 2005, 07:11 PM
2006 should be even better:

ESPN:

Wednesday, December 14, 2005
Meet the Mets
By Bob Klapisch
Special to ESPN.com

NEW YORK -- After a flurry of delirious check-writing, appearances at glitzy press conferences and otherwise rerouting the road to mediocrity, has the unthinkable finally occurred in New York?

Have the Mets become the city's best baseball team?

No one would've dared pose the question in 2005, not even two months ago. But thanks to the Wilpon family's money and general manager Omar Minaya's near-compulsive need to make trades, the Mets boast a roster that's nearly as star-studded as the Yankees'. Even if the roster isn't as talented, the Mets still might have a clearer path to the playoffs than the Bombers.

Says who, any Yankees loyalist will ask. None other than the Bombers themselves.

One high-ranking official said this week, "There's no question the Mets are the best team in that [NL East] division. So go ahead, say they're favorites. Say they're the best team in the whole league. Put the pressure on them, for once."

The Yankees official wasn't speaking spitefully or sarcastically, he was simply candid enough to tell the Mets: Welcome to our world, where even a two-game losing streak isn't tolerated, and five years without a world championship is the equivalent of a dark age.

Harsh as it is, the Mets are loving the limelight. They're the hottest team in town and certainly the busiest. Their projected $110 million payroll is still some $70 million lighter than the Yankees', but they have All-Stars in four starting positions (first base, catcher, left and center field), an elite-caliber Opening Day starter in Pedro Martinez and the game's hardest-throwing lefty reliever in Billy Wagner.

Many baseball officials believe the Mets now project to a 90-win season, even if Minaya doesn't make another move before April.

Finishing at 90-72 might be good enough to topple the Braves. At the very least, the Mets have surged past the Phillies, Marlins and Nationals, none of whom has significantly improved this winter.

The Yankees? They're a year older, slogging through a crisis in center field, trying to pass off Bubba Crosby as a suitable replacement to Bernie Williams. The real crossroads, however, will be the moment Johnny Damon decides he'll accept less than a seven-year deal. But the question is for whom.

While the Yankees wait out Damon and his agent, Scott Boras, the Red Sox and Blue Jays both have upgraded their starting rotations, prompting Toronto GM J.P. Ricciardi to boldly say, "We've closed the gap" on the East's power brokers.

It's conceivable a three-way race will ensue, and the Yankees could find themselves out of the playoffs for the first time since 1993. It's a long shot, but Yankees GM Brian Cashman is desperately looking for help. Still, as long as the Yankees are committed to Robinson Cano and Chien-Ming Wang, and further refuse to trade Carl Pavano, they look inert compared to the Mets.

Cashman admitted as much, wearily saying, "It took me four days just to trade [Tony] Womack" during the winter meetings.

Of course, George Steinbrenner can't possibly allow the Mets to outright steal the Yankees' place in the universe. The Bombers are poised for an intense courtship of Roger Clemens beginning in January, and are so intent on stealing Damon away from the Red Sox, Joe Torre personally called the free-agent center fielder on Tuesday, according to Newsday.

But the Mets aren't finished with their own upgrades, either. Minaya continues his pursuit of Manny Ramirez, having tried to hatch a three-way deal with the Rangers and Red Sox that would've landed the slugger at Shea.

According to one National League official, the Mets wanted to trade Kris Benson to the Rangers for Juan Dominguez and Laynce Nix, then package them with Carlos Beltran to Boston for Ramirez.

The deal never got past the Rangers, however, and Minaya has back-burnered Ramirez -- for now. In the meantime, the GM is low-key about his chances of outdistancing the Yankees, refusing to rule out the possibility of finishing second to Atlanta.

"That's the best young nucleus they've had in a long time," Minaya said of the Braves. "They lose [Rafael] Furcal but they replace him with someone who might be even better [Edgar Renteria].

"We haven't won anything. The value of winning as a team, as a nucleus, that's insurmountable. The Braves have that."

Clearly, Minaya is trying to take pressure off his newcomers, like Wagner, Carlos Delgado and Julio Franco. But the Mets front office is gearing up for a long, loud summer in Flushing, Queens. There's a new cable network, SportsNet New York, coming in 2006 and to help cover the cost, the Mets have raised their ticket prices by 7 percent, including prime seats that now cost $96 apiece.

The Yankees moved even faster than the Mets in raising prices. Two weeks ago, they announced the Stadium's best seats will cost $110, after selling for $90 last year.

Not that the two teams are actually competing for revenue. The Mets and Yankees have their own distinct fan bases, so the who's-better question is more likely to impact street corner debate than attendance or TV ratings.

But the Yankees and Mets are clearly aware, if not wary, of each other. When the Bombers were looking for a center fielder last summer, they knew the most logical place to look was Shea Stadium, where Mike Cameron was unhappy after being shifted to right field.

The Mets could've made a deal. They could've taken the Yankees up on their offer of Gary Sheffield for Cameron. But the trade was nixed at the highest levels in Queens, where one Met executive told a go-between, "Why should we help the Yankees get over the top? Why?"

slvrbllt98
August 31st, 2008, 05:56 PM
They will win the east, no doubt about it. - Ari Orakciyan

TREPYE
September 9th, 2008, 11:59 AM
September 9, 2008

Wagner’s Year Finished; Met Career May Be, Too

By BEN SHPIGEL (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/ben_shpigel/index.html?inline=nyt-per)
Four months ago, after a numbing 1-0 Mets (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/baseball/majorleague/newyorkmets/index.html?inline=nyt-org) loss to Washington, Billy Wagner lashed out in the clubhouse at teammates who, in his mind, had been too quick to depart after the game.
In his expletive-laced comments, Wagner did not cite anyone by name. But he seemed, by the direction of his gestures, to be singling out the empty locker of Carlos Delgado, who had been playing dismally and who had indeed dressed and left without speaking to reporters. It was an emblematic moment of what was shaping up as a sour season and a month later, with the Mets still playing lackluster baseball, Willie Randolph (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/willie_randolph/index.html?inline=nyt-per) was out as the manager.
A lot has happened to the Mets since then, and to Delgado and Wagner, and little of it could have been foreseen. Under Jerry Manuel (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/jerry_manuel/index.html?inline=nyt-per), the Mets are now atop the National League East, trying to hold off Philadelphia, the team that embarrassed them in 2007. Delgado has dramatically rebounded to become the team’s most formidable hitter and a somewhat improbable candidate for National League Most Valuable Player honors. In his third season with the Mets, he is also finally assuming a more active role as a team spokesman and seems certain to be back with the club in 2009.
But Wagner, a 37-year-old closer, has probably thrown his final pitch as a Met, and perhaps as a major leaguer. The Mets announced Monday that Wagner would need season-ending reconstructive surgery on his left elbow to repair his medial collateral ligament and flexor pronator muscle. With one season left on Wagner’s four-year, $43 million deal with the Mets, and with the recovery period expected to last a full year, the Mets will now move on without him.
In Wagner’s absence, the Mets have gone 22-10 by employing an ever-increasing hodgepodge of relievers. Still, despite his struggles this season — his seven blown saves were already a career high — Wagner was clearly the team’s best reliever, and Monday’s announcement made the Mets’ postseason quest a little more precarious.
Out since Aug. 3, Wagner had hoped to be activated as soon as Tuesday. But he cut short a simulated game at Shea Stadium on Sunday night, and an evaluation on Monday at the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan revealed the tears.
“Surgery was always a possibility in case things didn’t get better,” General Manager Omar Minaya (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/omar_minaya/index.html?inline=nyt-per) said in a conference call. “We’re at the point where they did not get better.”
For now, Luis Ayala will continue to serve as the team’s impromptu closer, with Brian Stokes and Aaron Heilman as options should Ayala falter.
Minaya said Wagner’s injury, and his unavailability for probably all of 2009, would definitely change his approach to the off-season. He was not expecting to spend money on a new closer, but now he may have to do so. One potential — and very expensive — option would be Francisco Rodríguez of the Los Angeles Angels (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/baseball/majorleague/losangelesangels/index.html?inline=nyt-org), who through Sunday had 55 saves, two short of the major league record, and would be a free agent at the end of the season. But Minaya may prefer to have someone grow into the job rather than get into a bidding war for Rodríguez.
Wagner’s departure underlines the risk in giving older pitchers multiyear deals. Orlando Hernández (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/h/orlando_hernandez/index.html?inline=nyt-per) (foot troubles) will not throw one pitch for the Mets in the second year of his two-year deal and Pedro Martínez (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/pedro_martinez/index.html?inline=nyt-per) (rotator cuff surgery and hamstring injury) has given the team only one good season out of the four he signed up for.
Back in May, when Wagner lashed out in the locker room, he had yet to allow an earned run for the season. Delgado, meanwhile, was batting .222 with nearly as many strikeouts (30) as hits (32). Entering July, Delgado was still batting .228, but in the 60 games since then, he has hit 19 home runs, driven in 55 runs and posted an OPS (on-base percentage plus slugging) of 1.010, ranking him among the league leaders over that time.
His clutch hitting has been on full display in the Mets’ last two series against Philadelphia. In each of the two games that the Mets won, he blasted two homers. In between, he hit a game-winning homer on Labor Day (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/l/labor_day/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) off Milwaukee’s Eric Gagné.
Delgado’s performance at the plate has helped make up for the fact that David Wright (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/w/david_wright/index.html?inline=nyt-per) has been struggling in key moments with runners in scoring position. And in the clubhouse, Delgado now seems more inclined to help out Wright as well, after a long period in which the much younger Wright seemed to carry much of the burden to speak on behalf of the team.
On Sunday night, after the doubleheader split with the Phillies (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/baseball/majorleague/philadelphiaphillies/index.html?inline=nyt-org), it was Delgado, not Wright, who emphatically stated: “We think we’re the team to beat. We think what happened last year is not going to happen again.”
The Mets are almost certain to exercise their $12 million option on Delgado for 2009. In a true twist of fate, he will be around in the weeks and months to come to talk about his team while Wagner, the most quotable of all the Mets, will not be.


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TREPYE
September 9th, 2008, 12:02 PM
Now that the games get more important and bigger, losing Wagner is addition by subtraction.

We all knew his deal...
The bigger the game higher probability of him blowing it. :rolleyes:

OmegaNYC
September 9th, 2008, 12:15 PM
Loosing Wagner hurts! We're 2 up on the Phills as of today, and the Mets have been playing great in the past month or so, though I don't see the Mets going deep into the post season with out a solid bullpen. Thankfully, our SP has been off the wall. Santana looks like, well Santana since mid-summer.

NYatKNIGHT
September 9th, 2008, 02:36 PM
Going to the game tonight with my Met-fan-friends if this rain clears out. Last visit to Shea!

ZippyTheChimp
September 9th, 2008, 02:51 PM
I went to the game Sunday night. Lousy seats, sec 44 upper deck, row S; but there were a dozen of us and we had a good time. Two Philly fans right in front of us.

Gotta do one more Yankee Stadium visit.

NYatKNIGHT
September 9th, 2008, 03:22 PM
^That's like tonight - a bunch of us on crappy company seats - I'm in Row U somewhere. But it should be fun.

Very much looking forward to going to Yankee Stadium one last time this Saturday with my brothers thanks to my sister-in-law who got my one brother the tickets for all of us and his flight out here as a birthday gift.

scumonkey
September 28th, 2008, 06:06 PM
Nothing amazing about 'em tonight....
another last minute failure!

OmegaNYC
September 28th, 2008, 06:46 PM
As one of my friends put it: "I hate waiting till next year" This lost just hurts, it hurts so damn it didn't even set in yet. For the 2nd straight year, we lost on the final day, to the same team, and missed the playoffs.... Expect BIG changes in 2009. BTW, gonna miss you. Shea.. :(

TREPYE
September 28th, 2008, 08:05 PM
What some people dont seem to realize is that the "Amazin" tag works both ways...

Amazingly they posted a record of 40-120 in 62...
Amazingly the ball bounced off the top of the wall in 73...
Amazingly they traded Nolan Ryan...
Amazingly the ball went through Buckners legs...
Amaizingly Kenny Rogers walking in the game winning run in the 12th inning for the Braves in 99...
Amazingly Robin Ventura hit a grand slam and only got credited for a single...
Amaizingly Endy Chaves levitated over the wall to rob the Cardinals of a HR (and still lost)...
Amazingly despite good hiting and starting pitching the Mets bullpen last year cost them a 7 game lead, and, with everything on the line for the last game in which in a reversal of fate the starter gave up 6 runs and the bullpen tidily cleaned up the mess and did not let anymore runs score.....neither did the mets offense for the entire game...

This year, Amazingly Santanas bat last Tuesday hit the ball twice- once at home plate and after it broke during the swing it hit the ball AGAIN in between the 1st and 2nd base to not only prevent a double play but to allow Santana to reach 1st base safely...

Amazingly again this not only with a disguting bullpen but unsightly clutch hitting they blew (like cheap call girls) a 3 Game lead down the stretch.....

It just works both ways!

This has been a deplorable team to root for the past 2 years.....:mad::mad:

NYC4Life
September 29th, 2008, 01:55 AM
The Wilpons need to fire Omar Minaya, end of story.

ZippyTheChimp
September 29th, 2008, 02:19 PM
The Amazin' tag was given to the Mets by the Old Perfesser, Casey Stengel, when he was manager of an awful (but lovable) team.

"Those Mets are gonna be amazin'."

Casey made a few other remarks that might apply to the present group:

“If we're going to win the pennant, we've got to start thinking we're not as good as we think we are.”

“Most ball games are lost, not won.”



Subtract Santana, Pelfrey, Beltran. Subtract those at the end of careers.

What's left has no heart, no grit.

TheFivePoints
September 29th, 2008, 02:27 PM
Did anyone here that big loud COUGH yesterday coming from queens. I think it was coming from the Worlds Fair area no wait its from Shea...........chokers again

OmegaNYC
September 30th, 2008, 12:44 PM
^^^ Disapointment? Yes. Heartbreaking? Yep. Total Letdown? You bet. Choke? Not Really. What happend to the Mets is they just ran outta gas. Not to make any excusses, this team just had well, no heart going down the final weeks. Reyes once again disapeared in the big spot. Wright was hitting well over .300 in September, but swinging at 3-0 with the bases juiced to strikeout is just silly! Lets not even start on the bullpen! more like bull$&*%! The Mets need arms in the pen; that is obvious. K-Rod is on the market, but I know the Angels will throw massive about of $$$ at him. Espeicially after having this record breaking season in saves, I will also like the Mets to after the Marlins SS, Ramirez. That way, they can put him on Second, and still have Reyes at short. Get rid of Castillo! Omar was a fool to sign him to that 4 year contract.

Anyboy else got someone they would like on the Mets? How about Sabathia? The Brewers aren't going to keep him.

OmegaNYC
September 30th, 2008, 12:48 PM
The Wilpons need to fire Omar Minaya, end of story.

This is why I was so pissed when Omar dropped Willie! It wasn't his fault that the team was playing this way. You have guys who make millions of dollars a year, and they couldn't even produce because they didn't "like" the way Willie was handling the team? What ever happend to being a pro? Buncha cry-babies is what that is. At least Manuel is back.

TheFivePoints
September 30th, 2008, 02:22 PM
This is why I was so pissed when Omar dropped Willie! It wasn't his fault that the team was playing this way. You have guys who make millions of dollars a year, and they couldn't even produce because they didn't "like" the way Willie was handling the team? What ever happend to being a pro? Buncha cry-babies is what that is. At least Manuel is back.

Omega
they need to get rid of Jerry, they need a fresh start and its starts with the manager......bullpen help and then starters.....the ability to win games in September will remain until they cut ties with Jerry,

antinimby
September 30th, 2008, 04:00 PM
So it wasn't Willie Randolph's fault for last year's collapse after all.

TheFivePoints
September 30th, 2008, 04:38 PM
I think sometimes its better to start anew than figure out wtf just happened

TheFivePoints
September 30th, 2008, 04:42 PM
^^^ Disapointment? Yes. Heartbreaking? Yep. Total Letdown? You bet. Choke? Not Really. What happend to the Mets is they just ran outta gas. Not to make any excusses, this team just had well, no heart going down the final weeks. Reyes once again disapeared in the big spot. Wright was hitting well over .300 in September, but swinging at 3-0 with the bases juiced to strikeout is just silly! Lets not even start on the bullpen! more like bull$&*%! The Mets need arms in the pen; that is obvious. K-Rod is on the market, but I know the Angels will throw massive about of $$$ at him. Espeicially after having this record breaking season in saves, I will also like the Mets to after the Marlins SS, Ramirez. That way, they can put him on Second, and still have Reyes at short. Get rid of Castillo! Omar was a fool to sign him to that 4 year contract.

Anyboy else got someone they would like on the Mets? How about Sabathia? The Brewers aren't going to keep him.

These guys got tight again in the big spots......you have seen it with the yankees these past couple of years....when the yankees were winning those champinoships years ago they had some experienced guys who could deal with the preasure...and also a little luck remember jamie moyer

antinimby
September 30th, 2008, 05:10 PM
The problem with the Yankees (the Mets should also pay attention as they seem to be heading down the same road) the past 5 or so years, was...

1) getting rid of their prospects through trades for short-term, veteran help,

2) blindly just signing the "best", most high-profiled players on the free agent market instead of players, that although might not have the best credentials, but was a better fit with a team,

3) also obsessing with superstars regardless of whether they have heart or not.

NoyokA
September 30th, 2008, 06:35 PM
I don't think that's true. The Yankees have to scout talent better and sign the right free agents instead of throwing money at garbage like Carl Palvano, Kei Igawa, Jaret Wright, etc. and making bad big trades like for an over-the-hill Randy Johnson. If the Yankees traded for Johan Santana they would be in the playoffs right now, they decided against trading for Santana because it would require two of Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, and Melky Cabrera. Hughes and Kennedy each went winless and had era's over six and a half. Melkdud was sent to the minors.

As for the Mets situational hitting is a problem, a role player is needed, someone that knows how to win and can complement and teach the core of this team. But even more than that the Mets need a bullpen, they blew 13 games when leading after seven, the bullpen was a constant punch in the stomach for both the fans and the team as a whole. If the Mets had a bullpen like the Phillies they would have had the best record in all of baseball and with that kind of lead it would be nearly impossible to collapse. Instead it came to last day of the season, again.

If the Mets don't get a good bullpen, K-rod or Feuntes, plus other bullpen pieces, I'm not watching them next year.

antinimby
September 30th, 2008, 08:04 PM
The Carl Pavanos, Kei Igawas and Jaret Wrights were horrible signings but they were not the reason why the Yankees didn't win this year.

As for Santana, it doesn't work like that. You can't simply say that if he was with the Yankees, they would have made it to the playoffs. There are a lot of intangibles that you can't just plug in his numbers and take out the numbers of the players he would have been traded for. The Yankees may have been better or they may have been worse.

The Mets signed Santana and they fared no better this year than they did without him. If everything was reversed and he went to the Yankees instead and the Mets did exactly what they just did this year, you would have said the same thing: if the Mets had traded for Santana, they would not have collapsed.

Do you see how you cannot project outcomes simply by making assumptions based on what they did under different conditions?

ZippyTheChimp
September 30th, 2008, 08:41 PM
The way a baseball season works is that key players get you the division title or a wild-card spot. You assemble a team to win as many games during the long season, but you can't control whether your team is peaking at the end of the regular season, and if other teams are suddenly hot.

I've heard talk about trading Wright and Reyes, but if that's the case, you have to replace them with players who have comparable season stats, not if they won't choke in the last week.

Last year, the Yankees won the division because Wong was their ace, winning 19 games. They lost to Cleveland in the playoffs because Wong pitched two bad games in a row. There's no way to engineer for that.

The Yanks lost this year because they couldn't overcome the number of losses during the season caused by the loss of Posada and Matsui, the off years for Cano and Cabrera, and the drop off from an MVP year for A-Rod. Mussina won 20 games, which was unexpected, and the bullpen was the best it's been in years. Yanks kost because of reduced offense, bot bad pitching.

The Mets lost because they relied on too many old injury-prone players, had no bullpen down the stretch, and the offense got cold in the last weekend - 5 runs.

Santana did what was expected of him.

NoyokA
September 30th, 2008, 09:16 PM
As for Santana, it doesn't work like that. You can't simply say that if he was with the Yankees, they would have made it to the playoffs. There are a lot of intangibles that you can't just plug in his numbers and take out the numbers of the players he would have been traded for. The Yankees may have been better or they may have been worse.

Um. There's no way they would have been worse. Santana for the season has the best era in all of baseball. He had 16 wins with the Mets, the bullpen, the reason for this years collapse (not the reason for last years), blew 7 games where Santana left with a lead. With the Yankees bullpen of Joba + Mariano, Santana would have had over 20 wins. The tandem they would have traded for Santana went 0-8, the scrubs they substituted the rest of the season in their place went sub 500. Zippy's right, Wang was a huge blow, the Yankees had no ace. If Santana was there it would've made all the difference in the world.

antinimby
October 1st, 2008, 04:43 AM
Surely you don't suggest that he would have the same season if he was with Yankees?

This isn't Fantasy Baseball where all one does is plug in the numbers of every player and let the computer determine the outcome.

With the Yankees, he could have been the same, better or worse. Like I said, the Yankees might have been better or they might have been worse with Santana.

Nothing is for certain.

NoyokA
October 1st, 2008, 10:35 AM
Johan Santana has never had a bad year in his career. He excelled in New York across town. But since you always have to be right (and negative), yes he could have theoretically made the Yankees worse. :rolleyes:

I still follow the forum as much as I always have because I'm a moderator but I don't post as much because of some really annoying posters. Moderators don't have the option of the ignore function.

antinimby
October 1st, 2008, 06:32 PM
You seem to have issues Stern. I don't know what that last bit about you not posting and annoying posters has anything to do with this discussion about baseball and the Mets.

And no, I am not trying to be right all the time, at least not any more than you or any other posters here. You make it seem like I am the only one here that engage in back and forth debates. If anything, I engage in those the least among the veterans. So, please.

As for Santana, you don't mean to suggest that he will never have a bad year right? And if you do agree that he will eventually have a bad year, how do you know it wouldn't have been with the Yankees?

Being in New York is one thing but playing in the red hot spotlight that is the Yankees is another. Throw in the fact that the AL is so much more tougher to pitch in than the weaker NL and that could make all the difference in the world. Sometimes a bad beginning can make him and the team lose morale and that could unravel their whole season. That's how things could have turn out bad.

ZippyTheChimp
October 2nd, 2008, 10:48 AM
Baseball's long season makes it the sport of statistics, that more than others, follows the law of averages.

You can't just plug someone in on another team and be confident that the results will be the same, but to the extent that you can make predictions, it is easier to do so with a starting pitcher than an everyday player.

Unless a pitcher has an overbearing personality, they're not as much an influence on "clubhouse chemistry' as an everyday player. Or how the batting order works as a unit.

You can match their pitching style to the characteristics of new team/ballpark. A sinkerball pitcher needs good infield defense. Santana as a lefty would benefit from the deeper left field of Yankee Stadium. Stuff like that.

You look at things like ERA, number of walks, and most important - number of innings pitched, which impacts how much pressure is put on the bullpen. You expect around 32 starts and 230 total innings. Santana was right there.

When Wang went down with a season ending injury, the Yankees had to find other pitchers to give them those innings. They used Rasner, signed a risky Ponzon, and brought assorted pitchers up from the minors to fill in, with mixed results.

I have no doubt that they could have plugged Santana into Wang's spot in the rotation, and there would have been no dropoff in performance, and he would have been better than the committee they were forced to use. Whether that would have been enough to get them a playoff spot, no one can say. But I'm sure they would have won more games.

NYC4Life
October 3rd, 2008, 08:46 PM
NY1

10/03/2008 05:58 PM
Report: Jerry Manuel To Stay With The Mets

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1348/71579336gk2.jpg

A day after the Mets announce a contract extension for their general manager, there's word their field manager will be back next season.

Reports say Jerry Manuel has agreed to a two-year deal with the club, with the Mets holding an option for a third season.

Manuel took over as interim manager after Willie Randolph was fired in June.

He led the Mets to a 55-38 record, but for the second year in a row, they were eliminated from playoff contention on the last day of the season.

Manuel was the 2000 American League manager of the year with the Chicago White Sox.

TheFivePoints
October 6th, 2008, 05:29 PM
chirp chirp........don't think to many Met fans are excited about this decision.

OmegaNYC
October 6th, 2008, 05:45 PM
I am. For the simple fact that Manuel could end up being the NL Manager of the Year. He is a decent manager, and there is nobody out there for the Mets to get.

TheFivePoints
October 7th, 2008, 09:52 AM
Omega
Remember Jerry was with the team in 2007 for that disaster and then 2008....I think a change in the way that things are done would be best suited for the Mets....I'm not saying 07 was his fault but the Mets need a shake up, with some retooling they still are a good team in the NL for next year, Pitching, Pitching, and moe Pitching is number one on the list.

ZippyTheChimp
September 16th, 2009, 03:25 PM
A saw a video clip this morning of the Mets game in Atlanta on TV, but I can't find it.

Adam LaRoche hit a long home run into the right field upper deck. A guy sitting in the first row caught the ball. He handed it to his little daughter. While he looked away, she calmly turned around and tossed the ball back.

The guy's eyes went wide and he put both hands on top of his head. I thought, "Please don't be an idiot."

But he was cool. He laughed and gave her a big hug.

JCMAN320
September 16th, 2009, 06:24 PM
http://www.nj.com/parenting/carrie_stetler/index.ssf/2009/09/girl_throws_back_ball_video_da.html

Here is the video and story behind the father and daughter.

Ninjahedge
September 17th, 2009, 09:08 AM
Cute vid, but seen it on EVERY news station now (3 times over).

They interviewed him and the kid and it seems like she was a little tired of the attension too.

"Why did you do it?"

" 'cause!"

;)

JCMAN320
September 30th, 2009, 09:51 PM
Mets contemplating uni changes for '10
Home gear could be cream, with no pinstripes

By Tom Singer / MLB.com

09/29/09 9:51 AM ET

As part of changes being contemplated for their 2010 home uniforms, the Mets may leave the pinstripes to the neighbors better known for them.

And with a strong comeback from their disappointing 2009, the Citi Field denizens could legitimately be called the cream de la creme.

Though Jay Horwitz, Mets vice president of media relations, wouldn't detail how the club would alter its home uniforms, the New York Post reported on Tuesday that the alterations could include a departure from the pinstripes that have been a part of the home whites since the team's 1962 inception.

And they may no longer be home whites. The Mets may switch to cream-colored uniforms similar to what the San Francisco Giants wear in AT&T Park.

JCMAN320
September 30th, 2009, 09:53 PM
Mets shortstop Jose Reyes tears hamstring while running

By Brian Costa/The Star-Ledger
September 30, 2009, 8:19PM

WASHINGTON -- Mets shortstop Jose Reyes tore his right hamstring Tuesday while running to test his torn hamstring tendon, a new injury that will likely require surgery. The tear was revealed Wednesday afternoon when Reyes underwent an MRI at the Hospital for Special Surgery.

It was the second time this season Reyes suffered a new injury while rehabbing from an earlier one. He first went on the disabled list on May 26 with tendinitis in his right calf, then tore the hamstring tendon during an extended spring training game in early June.

Reyes has appeared unlikely to play again this season since he was shut down in early August. And the Mets said later that month that he could need surgery to repair the torn tendon.

But even with the Mets well out of contention, Reyes continued to rehab with the hope of returning, even if only for the last weekend of the season.

That hope went from miniscule to nonexistent Tuesday when Reyes hurt himself while running at a Long Island training facility.

There was no immediate announcement from the Mets on surgery for Reyes, but that seemed to be all but a formality.

One hundred thirty-three days after he last appeared in a game, Jose Reyes is finally, officially, definitely, unquestionably ... done for the season.

ZippyTheChimp
September 30th, 2009, 10:42 PM
Just sew this on a white shirt

http://culturesdiary.com/UserFiles/2007/6/4/rodoflife.gif

TREPYE
October 27th, 2009, 11:35 AM
The dung pile to top off this miserable Mets season; Phils vs. Yanks. Game 6 Angels vs Yanks was officially my last game of the season. It cannot get any worse...can it?


October 27, 2009

Mets Fans Have Choice of Two Evils in World Series

By A. G. SULZBERGER (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/a_g_sulzberger/index.html?inline=nyt-per)
In recent years Mets (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/baseball/majorleague/newyorkmets/index.html?inline=nyt-org) fans could measure baseball seasons by degrees of suffering. Since a called third strike dashed championship hopes in 2006, the team has been defined by fall flameouts, until this year, when there was an early summer flameout.
But the misery of this uninspired season has been unexpectedly heightened by the indignity of watching their most despised division rival face off against their despised crosstown rival in the World Series.
Chuck Rose, the owner of the Pine Restaurant and Sports Bar near Citi Field (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/c/citi_field/index.html?inline=nyt-org), said he was so disheartened that he could not even choose between the Phillies (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/baseball/majorleague/philadelphiaphillies/index.html?inline=nyt-org) and the Yankees (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/baseball/majorleague/newyorkyankees/index.html?inline=nyt-org). “I hope it rains for 40 days and 40 nights,” he said, adding that he might dedicate one television in the bar to a replaying of the 1986 World Series, when the Mets last won the championship.
Mets fans have approached the looming showdown, which one blogger nicknamed Satan’s Series, in a variety of ways. Some have sworn off baseball until spring training, while others have tried to sort out which team they dislike less.
“This, my friends, is Baseball Armageddon,” wrote John Coppinger on his blog, the Musings and Prophecies of Metstradamus, who falls in the boycott category. “There is no happy ending. Satan has been unleashed.” And, he continued, “The next two weeks are going to be the worst two weeks on earth.”
The Mets Clubhouse store, where everything from shot glasses to winter jackets carry the team logo, had an air of desolation Monday afternoon as a trickle of frustrated fans wandered in. (Just blocks away, the Yankees Clubhouse was doing brisk business and was decidedly more upbeat.)
“I had to come somewhere and commiserate,” said Dave Rakowski, 48, a lawyer in town on business from Allentown, Pa., which he said had an even mix of Yankees and Phillies fans. “I just needed to be around this stuff,” he said against a backdrop of blue and orange.
While Mr. Rakowski swore that he would not watch any of the series, other customers tried to explain their calculus for new allegiances. The Yankees, some suggested, at least represent New York (even if they did buy their way into the World Series). The Phillies, others offered, play baseball the right way as part of the National League (even if they have repeatedly assaulted the Mets with phrases like “choke artists”).
“I’m going for the Yankees because I can’t stand Philly,” said Anthony Ciarcia, 25, a Mets fan from Pine Bush, N.Y. “It’s not an ideal situation, but that’s what it comes down to.”
Said Ravi Ramcharan, 35, from Valley Stream, N.Y.: “I hate the Phillies, but for this series I am rooting against the Yankees hard. I really don’t like the Yankees.”
Jason Tejada crossed his index fingers, as if trying to ward off a vampire, when either team was mentioned by name. As a lifelong Mets fan, he has been miserable throughout the playoffs, which he could not escape because the games were always on at the Knollwood Country Club in Westchester County, where he is a bartender. As the Yankees inched toward victory on Sunday night, he left the bar for 20 minutes to avoid witnessing the celebration. “My stomach couldn’t take it,” he said.
At a Modell’s Sporting Goods store in Midtown Manhattan, Eli Vargas was at his station within hours of the Yankees’ victory on Sunday, dishing out celebratory caps, shirts and other pinstriped paraphernalia to ravenous crowds. But amid the bustle, looking both ways and hushing his voice before proceeding, he confessed to being a Mets fan. “But it hurts because I imagine what if this is all Mets stuff, how happy I’d be.”
As he described growing up in Flushing, Queens, close enough to see Shea Stadium (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/s/shea_stadium/index.html?inline=nyt-org), he said: “I’m having a real tough time right now. They tell me the longer I wait, the sweeter it’s going to be. But I was 3 years old in 1986, so I don’t really remember. I want to know what it feels like to win.”



Copyright 2009 (http://www.nytimes.com/ref/membercenter/help/copyright.html) The New York Times Company (http://www.nytco.com/)

ZippyTheChimp
October 27th, 2009, 12:19 PM
The dung pile to top off this miserable Mets season; Phils vs. Yanks. Game 6 Angels vs Yanks was officially my last game of the season. It cannot get any worse...can it?
Now you know how I felt in '86.

OmegaNYC
October 27th, 2009, 12:45 PM
^^^

Lol. Well, the way I see it is this: I'm rooting for the Phills to loose, not for the Yankees to win.

TREPYE
October 27th, 2009, 01:47 PM
Now you know how I felt in '86.

Made worse to you by the fact that it was a classic.

....so thats how it could get worse. I hope its a forgetful 4 game sweep either way.

NYatKNIGHT
October 27th, 2009, 04:40 PM
In '86 I held my nose and rooted for the Mets, because:

1) Friends who are Mets fans were, lets face it, a lot more fun to be around, at least for those few weeks.

2) The Mets have "NY" on their hats.

3) Rooting against the Red Sox is so deeply ingrained that if it was the Red Sox vs. the Aliens-Taking-Over-The-Planet, I would not think twice about rooting for the Aliens.

nycla3
October 28th, 2009, 01:20 PM
From this die-hard National League Met fan whose first game was at the Polo Grounds, the Phillies are the team the Mets wish they were...good manager, solid guys, hard to find anything to truly hate about them on the field and by all accounts, good guys off as well.

I will always, ALWAYS root against George Steinbrenner.

JCMAN320
October 28th, 2009, 08:18 PM
Yankeehater!!!

OmegaNYC
October 28th, 2009, 08:38 PM
^^^

I think that word describes anyone outside the Metro area. :cool:

TREPYE
December 8th, 2009, 12:34 PM
This offseason the Metsies should prescribe to their first managers advide on how to become a better team...

"This here team won't go anywhere unless we spread enough of our players around the league and make the other teams (terrible), too." -referring to the 1964 Mets 53-109 record (http://www.ebbets-field.com/Casey/Index.htm)


http://www.stripes.com/photoday/061403.jpg
(Casey Stengel)



Thereby the first step to take using this sage advise...

TRADE THAT LOLLIGAG SCURB LUIS CASTILLO!!!

Or somehow sending him to the Phillies.....this would be one of the greatest warfare tactics since the Trojan Horse.

ZippyTheChimp
December 8th, 2009, 01:38 PM
HA HA. Don't remember that one. Like, "Can't anybody play this here game?"

Bengie Molina (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/molinbe01.shtml) to Mets?

nycla3
December 8th, 2009, 01:56 PM
Don't get me started on the Ol' Perfesser...

"Come see my "Amazin' Mets, I've been in this game a hundred years, but I see new ways to lose I never knew existed before."

"See that fellow over there? He's 20 years old. In 10 years he has a chance to be a star. Now, that fellow over there, he's 20, too. In 10 years he has a chance to be 30."

On three catchers in camp: "I got one that can throw but can't catch, one that can catch but can't throw, and one who can hit but can't do either."

Warren Spahn: "I'm probably the only guy who worked for Stengel before and after he was a genius."

Why'd you draft Hobie Landrith, a catcher first in the expansion draft, Case? "You gotta have a catcher or you're gonna have a lot of passed balls"

hbcat
December 8th, 2009, 11:07 PM
In '86 I held my nose and rooted for the Mets, because:

1) Friends who are Mets fans were, lets face it, a lot more fun to be around, at least for those few weeks.

2) The Mets have "NY" on their hats.

3) Rooting against the Red Sox is so deeply ingrained that if it was the Red Sox vs. the Aliens-Taking-Over-The-Planet, I would not think twice about rooting for the Aliens.


Knight --

Exactly! Now I know why found myself cheering on the Mets in '86. I never knew why before. ;)

NY trumps Boston and NY trumps Philly. Aliens trump Red Sox. Alliance with Stalin over Hitler and fascist Japan. Life demands such choices.
It's comforting to know who one's real enemies (and "friends") are.

hb

JCMAN320
December 9th, 2009, 12:49 PM
Here is an image of the new Mets jerseys:

http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-6850316dt.jpg

ZippyTheChimp
December 9th, 2009, 01:40 PM
^
Getting back to the original.

Never liked the small player number on the front under the logo - too Dodgers, who had it at least as far back as the 1950s. The Dodgers introduced an all green uniform, no blue at all, in 1937. The following year, they went back to Dodger blue, and replaced the capital letters DODGERS with the now familiar script.

I think the Mets uniform with the multicolored stripes down the shoulders and pants was the ugliest.

Who remembers the weird Chicago White Sox uniforms of the 1970s?

JCMAN320
December 9th, 2009, 04:54 PM
The Chi Sox uniforms were horrific!!

http://moondogsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/chicago_white_sox_uniforms_2-409x600.jpg

nycla3
December 9th, 2009, 05:33 PM
Ya mean these?

http://www.mopupduty.com/whitesox1976a.jpg

Worn once - during the first game of a doubleheader against the Kansas City Royals at Comiskey Park on August 8, 1976. Sox won, 5-2.

ZippyTheChimp
December 9th, 2009, 05:58 PM
^
Yes, those. The "regular" uniform had sort of Capri pants. Not sure, but I seem to remember a road uniform that had the shirt and collar B&W reversed, which looked even sillier. When the Sox came into YS, the Scooter had a field day with it. Said they looked like they were going clam-digging.

The uniform that JCMan posted was the early '80s replacement, not much better. There was a contest in Chicago to design the uniform, an a few that actaully made it to prototype were beyond belief.

I'll hunt around.

ZippyTheChimp
December 9th, 2009, 06:08 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1181/656215874_ec9f35db39_o.jpg

http://www.baseballrace.com/images_external/whitesox_80s_demo_uni.jpg

Radiohead
December 9th, 2009, 11:50 PM
Most '70's uniform styles were horrid.....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BpDNdb-o2MU/SkUdzFBpfhI/AAAAAAAABz0/SIu9FsxITYo/s400/Picture+29.png



Hairstyles weren't much better.......
http://blog.timesunion.com/mcguire/files/2008/12/gamble1.jpg


As for the Mets, I still prefer this uniform without the drop shadow..

http://www.mitchellandness.com/images/products/medium/BSME69H41_W.jpg


From the days when Shea looked like this...

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj90/alpineinc/ClassicSheaStadium/scan0010.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2505/3990918943_b0fd74c43e_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3448/3991675858_f5be6bf753_b.jpg

hbcat
December 10th, 2009, 12:09 AM
Nice photos, Radiohead. You even have the requisite airliner coming in to JFK.

As for really bad uniforms, how about these from the Padres softball-look era:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NwMmft2Mlzg/SPZZP1QnneI/AAAAAAAAAPA/C0HMbuH2Zrs/s320/pads_unis.jpg

I like the "new" style the Mets are going with. Don't know if it will do much for their place in the standings though.

ZippyTheChimp
December 10th, 2009, 01:27 PM
The Mets will offer a contract to Bengie Moilina today. Speculation is for one year. Mets are also expected to make an offer to Jason Bay. This would fill holes at C and LF, and add a power bat.

Still need a starting pitcher.

ZippyTheChimp
December 11th, 2009, 09:09 AM
In the Rule 5 draft, Mets selected RHP Carlos Monasterios from the Philly organization. He started out in the Yankee system and went to Philly as part of the Abreu deal. Mets immediately sent him to the Dodgers for cash. Looks like the Mets raided the Philly farm without having to carry him on the ML roster next year.

Sometimes these Rule 5 picks have impact. Last year, the Mets selected Darren O'Day from the Angels, but he didn't stay on the roster. Rangers claimed him on waivers, and he had a good year in the bullpen with a 1.94 ERA. Johann Santana was a Rule 5 pick by the Twins.

Mets reportedly offered Jason Bay a 4 year contract at $65 million. The Red Sox already offered him $60 million to re-sign. Will Bay leave the Sox for the Mets for $5 million? I don't think so.

ZippyTheChimp
December 18th, 2009, 07:22 PM
[Knocks loudly on door]

Omar, are you in there? Your phone isn't working. No incoming calls.

TREPYE
December 19th, 2009, 12:11 PM
I wish that they would stop effing around with Bay and give him the 5th year already. Before he even becomes part of the team you are making him disgrunteled.

This is what I cant stand about the Wilpons.

They should release castillo and deduct some portion of Omars salary to help pay for the remainder of this stiffs contract. This way they can sign Hudson.

OmegaNYC
December 19th, 2009, 03:48 PM
[Knocks loudly on door]

Omar, are you in there? Your phone isn't working. No incoming calls.

[ Kicks down the door]

Omar! Why are you just sitting there in that chair? Besides, why are you just sitting there looking out of the window? [ Swings chair around ] Oh, my GOD! You're a Mannequin! :eek:

ZippyTheChimp
December 19th, 2009, 04:50 PM
^
Oh, big deal.

So is Daniel Murphy.

TREPYE
December 22nd, 2009, 02:03 PM
Almost Christmas and the Mets still with their thumb up their rectum....

ZippyTheChimp
December 23rd, 2009, 09:20 AM
http://www.athbaseball.com/images/stories/metscry.jpg

TREPYE
December 23rd, 2009, 11:52 PM
This offseason the Metsies should prescribe to their first managers advide on how to become a better team...

"This here team won't go anywhere unless we spread enough of our players around the league and make the other teams (terrible), too." -referring to the 1964 Mets 53-109 record (http://www.ebbets-field.com/Casey/Index.htm)


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(Casey Stengel)



Thereby the first step to take using this sage advise...

TRADE THAT LOLLIGAG SCURB LUIS CASTILLO!!!

Or somehow sending him to the Phillies.....this would be one of the greatest warfare tactics since the Trojan Horse.

Another Stengel gem when referring to Roger Craig after posting a 9-24 record with the Mets:

"You have to be good to loose that many"

TREPYE
January 14th, 2010, 08:43 PM
January 15, 2010

Boras Says Mets Approved Beltran Surgery, Then Changed Their Minds

By DAVID WALDSTEIN and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/michael_s_schmidt/index.html?inline=nyt-per)
After a disastrous season marked by numerous medical problems, the Mets (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/baseball/majorleague/newyorkmets/index.html?inline=nyt-org) hoped a new year would bring new results. Instead, the 2010 season will begin as 2009 ended, with another injury and with accompanying controversy, this time involving the team and the sport’s most prominent agent, Scott Boras (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/scott_boras/index.html?inline=nyt-per).
The Mets announced on Wednesday that center fielder Carlos Beltran had arthroscopic surgery on his right knee that day without their consent. On Thursday, the Mets’ assistant general manager, John Ricco, said on a conference call that the Mets had asked Beltran to wait for one more medical opinion before scheduling surgery, but that Beltran had chosen not to do so.
Speaking on behalf of the team, Ricco said the Mets were disappointed with what occurred, but specifically said that Beltran had not been insubordinate.
“There is an issue regarding the process that was followed regarding the surgery,” Ricco said. “We wanted to have the opportunity to digest the information and the diagnosis and unfortunately we were never afforded the opportunity to do that.”
Beltran flew to Colorado on Tuesday to consult with a noted orthopedist, Dr. Richard Steadman, (http://www.steadman-hawkins.com/physicianSteadman.asp) who decided surgery was necessary and performed it the next day. The recovery period is expected to keep Beltran out of the Mets’ lineup until mid-May.
Until now, the Mets’ doctors had been overseeing the rehabilitation of Beltran’s knee. They knew that Beltran had decided to consult with Steadman, who is not affiliated with the Mets, but asked Beltran to hold off on surgery until a third medical opinion could be obtained.
Boras, however, said Thursday that the Mets’ version of what occurred is deficient. He said the team had signed off on the surgery before apparently having second thoughts.
Boras, reading from a letter that he said Steadman had sent him outlining the doctor’s communications with the Mets, said Steadman told the Mets’ medical director, Dr. David Altchek (http://www.hss.edu/physicians_altchek-david.asp), on Tuesday that Beltran needed surgery and that Altchek gave him permission to proceed and said he would also inform the Mets of what was to occur.
In the letter, Steadman said that his office contacted the Mets’ head trainer, Ray Ramirez, to seek approval for payment for the surgery and that Ramirez likewise gave his consent.
Boras said that he himself called Jeff Wilpon, the Mets’ chief operating officer, and General Manager Omar Minaya (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/omar_minaya/index.html?inline=nyt-per) to tell them about the planned surgery.
“Jeff wanted to know why it wasn’t diagnosed earlier and Omar said, ‘O.K., thanks for telling me,’ ” Boras said. “Never once did they say don’t have the surgery.”
Boras said he was with Beltran in Colorado on Tuesday when he first met with Steadman and then flew back to California, not knowing when the surgery would occur. He said he was called by Wilpon and Ricco the next day as the surgery was progressing. They had decided they wanted Beltran to get a third opinion.
Boras said he was fine with that request, but then quickly discovered that it was too late. He said the Mets should explain why they gave initial consent and then changed their mind. Neither Wilpon nor Altchek could immediately be reached for comment on Boras’s assertions.
In the conference call, Ricco said the Mets had sent a letter “reserving their rights” to Boras, but would not elaborate on the team’s legal intentions. On Wednesday the Mets sought legal advice from Major League Baseball on what options they have in the wake of an operation they believe they did not approve.
According to a person in baseball with knowledge of the matter, the Mets were advised that they had two options: they could decline to pay Beltran during the period in which he was recovering from surgery, or they could attempt to void the final two years of his seven-year, $119 million contract.
If the Mets choose not to pay Beltran temporarily, he and Boras could appeal the action to a baseball arbitrator. In the end, it is unlikely the Mets will pursue either step because it would create a confrontation with one of the team’s top players.
It was noteworthy that Ricco was chosen to conduct the conference call rather than General Manager Omar Minaya, who was in Phoenix at the owners’ meeting. The Mets said it easier for Ricco to talk to reporters because he was in New York, but his presence suggested, not for the first time, that the team no longer trusts Minaya to preside over potentially sensitive sessions with members of the news media.
Last season Minaya stumbled notably in two instances with reporters. In one, he told reporters he could not recall that Johan Santana (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/johan_santana/index.html?inline=nyt-per) had elbow discomfort in spring training, even though it was a prominent story at the time. In the other, he created a firestorm (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/28/sports/baseball/28minaya.html?_r=1&scp=9&sq=adam%20rubin%20omar%20minaya&st=cse) by accusing a reporter — Adam Rubin of The Daily News — of having a personal motive in writing damaging stories about the team’s vice president for player development, Tony Bernazard, who was later fired. Minaya apologized publicly about his accusation.


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lofter1
January 14th, 2010, 11:56 PM
Wow. I never thought about that: Do all professional team athletes give up their right to make their own decisions about personal medical care?

ZippyTheChimp
January 15th, 2010, 09:40 AM
Wow. I never thought about that: Do all professional team athletes give up their right to make their own decisions about personal medical care?Because of the nature of the work, there are clauses written into sports contracts that most of us would find objectionable. They usually involve timing and notification.

There are also restrictions on activities not relating to the sport. Aaron Boone, who hit a famous home run in 2003, had is Yankee contract voided when he engaged in a basketball pickup game in the offseason and blew out his knee.


They knew that Beltran had decided to consult with Steadman, who is not affiliated with the Mets, but asked Beltran to hold off on surgery until a third medical opinion could be obtained.From whom were the Mets seeking a third opinion? Mr Met?

Altcheck is affiliated with the Hospital for Special Surgery, noted for orthopedic surgery. Steadman co-founded the Steadman-Hawkins Clinic, where highly paid athletes go for treatment. He specializes in knee arthroscopy.

And why did the Mets have to have a press conference over this? Especially with the Haiti earthquake in the news.

Ninjahedge
January 15th, 2010, 09:42 AM
they could decline to pay Beltran during the period in which he was recovering from surgery

This, however, I think they are entitled to, unless there is some injury provision in his contract.....

TREPYE
January 15th, 2010, 11:34 AM
And why did the Mets have to have a press conference over this? Especially with the Haiti earthquake in the news.

Why??

Because the people who run this team are a bunch of mmmmmmorons, thats why. Particularly, Jeffrey-boy Wilpon.

That is the problem with some the offspring of rich people (particularly spoiled ones). They get handed everything to them throughout life and never have to employ much efforts in figuring things out and develop a competent sense of logic or, as exemplefied above, prespective.

Other than saying some thing to the effect that "due to unforeseen discomfort experienced by Beltran it has been decided that the player should have a surgical procedure". Any disappointsments that they had should have been kept behind closed doors and not turn this into a petty public debate with one of your best players that is essetial to the teams success! And now out of spite they are speaking of disputing clauses in his contract?? Are yu kidding me?? How petty can you get????

Its time for Poppy Wilpon to take away Jeffreys toy.

Or sell the team to someone WHO HAS AN EFFING CLUE!

ZippyTheChimp
January 15th, 2010, 12:24 PM
On a more positive note:

The Mets Hall of Fame is being constructed in a section of the Jackie Robinson Rotunda. Mets said it would be ready for opening day - but I think we should have a second and third opinion. :)

http://media.nj.com/mets_main/photo/metshofjpg-1708e7f5818762a4_large.jpg

http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/01/ny_mets_hall_of_fame_under_con.html

To further increase the team identification with Citifield (does anyone else play there?):

Pictures throughout the stadium.

Sections will be named after people in Mets history - Stengel, Hodges, Seaver, Shea (no Strawberry?).

Logos and banners inside and outside the stadium.

Stairwells painted orange and blue (surgical green?).

TREPYE
January 15th, 2010, 07:25 PM
I see you are enjoying the Mets offseason miseries moreso than your beloved's championship offseason. I know that when my Giants won in '08 (the only championship I ever got to enjoy) I thoroughly savored it and the Cowboys, Eagles or even the Jets never crossed my mind.

Enjoy. :rolleyes:

ZippyTheChimp
January 15th, 2010, 07:56 PM
Things are quiet in Yankee Universe until opening night at that hellhole in Boston.

Mets are the star attraction of the Hot Stove.

TREPYE
January 16th, 2010, 02:34 PM
Yep, I guess they are the clown segment in the hot stove circus.

ZippyTheChimp
March 5th, 2010, 09:32 AM
Mets fans can exhale. Jose Reyes is OK.

TREPYE
March 5th, 2010, 12:04 PM
Reyes to be tested for thyroid imbalance

Mets shortstop will be sidelined until results are known


By Marty Noble / MLB.com
03/05/10 11:27 AM EST

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- Jose Reyes will return to New York for further tests after doctors detected in blood work done on Thursday what they believe could be a thyroid imbalance.
The tests will be conducted on Monday, and the Mets shortstop will not play again until the results are known, which could be as late as Wednesday.
"Further review of the test is that there may be an imbalance in his thyroid levels," a club spokesman said.
Reyes, who reported to the ballpark on Friday expecting to make his spring debut against the Marlins, said he had no idea he was going to be scratched from the lineup for a second consecutive day. He said that he was told the test result was "a higher level," meaning that he may have an overactive thyroid.
He said that he didn't feel any different than he has recently.
"I don't know what's going on, this is the first time I've ever had something like this," Reyes said. "I have to be worried. I can't do anything."
Reyes, who missed most of last season and had surgery in October to repair a torn tendon in his hamstring right hamstring, reiterated that there was no concern about his leg.
"This is important, it's nothing about my leg," he said. "We were talking about me today."
Reyes was taken out of the lineup on Thursday because he had a follow-up after blood results from his team physical showed something unexpected. He had gone earlier in the morning to have blood work done, then went later to make sure everything was OK. Afterward, though he didn't know much about the specifics, Reyes said he was good, adding: "I can't wait to get on the field tomorrow."
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<sigh!> Sh-t!!:rolleyes: I see the baseball gods are still deffecating on my Mets...unbelivable.

ZippyTheChimp
March 5th, 2010, 03:08 PM
Sorry. I spoke too soon.

ZippyTheChimp
March 31st, 2010, 01:43 PM
March 29, 2010, 8:00 am


Q.& A.: Mets Bloggers Assess the Coming Season

By JUSTIN SABLICH

As opening day draws near, The Times will be previewing the Yankees’ and Mets’ seasons from all angles, with analysis from Tyler Kepner, Ben Shpigel, David Waldstein and others. But with so much happening this off-season there are a lot of opinions to go around. As we did last season, we have reached out to some Yankees and Mets bloggers for their thoughts on the 2010 season.

In 2009, the Mets had no need to worry about a September collapse. They had plenty of other issues. Injuries derailed a season plagued by bad play and bad luck. In the off-season, they landed a star in Jason Bay, but major questions remain about their starting pitching and some of their key offensive players.

With opinions on these and other Mets-related issues are Matthew Cerrone, lead writer of MetsBlog.com on the SNY Blog Network; Greg Prince, who blogs at Faith and Fear in Flushing and whose book of the same name will soon be re-released on paperback; Jason Fry, who co-founded Faith and Fear in Flushing with Prince; and Sam Page, a blogger at Amazin’ Avenue.


Q. What off-season move do you wish the Mets had made and why? And what move do you wish they hadn’t made?

Matthew Cerrone: Well, first, I think it’s important to note that Omar Minaya could have reacted and traded players like Jenrry Mejia, Ike Davis and Fernando Martinez. He didn’t, and he should get credit for that. I would not have spent a ton of money on Jason Bay, which is not to say I think he’ll be a bad signing — not at all. I think Bay will be good. It’s just, I would rather have seen the Mets spend on a collection of role players, like Jason Marquis and Mark DeRosa. Their problem the last few seasons was not a lack of stars. They have stars. Their problem was a lack of depth, and role players who would allow their stars to shine.

Sam Page: I wish the Mets had signed one of Chone Figgins, Orlando Hudson or Felipe Lopez to play second base. Replacing Luis Castillo at second would have been a great boon to the Mets’ defensive cohesiveness and their pitching staff, with little risk of an offensive downgrade. Supposedly, the Mets held off signing any of the three because they could not trade Castillo and his salary, which is puzzling since Hudson and Lopez signed for less than the Mets’ reported offer to Bengie Molina.

I wish they hadn’t traded for Gary Matthews Jr. Granted, he is just a temporary backup, but he plays center field poorly and a more defensively versatile player would have benefited the Mets with Beltran out and Bay’s suspect defense. Also, having to pay $1 million to cut him next year is a drag. This move being my biggest complaint probably only proves the Mets’ inaction this off-season was a lot more offensive than anything they did do.

Greg Prince: I wish they had cut their losses on Castillo, but I guess that’s like wishing for Santa Claus to shimmy down the chimney on opening day. Then again, at least Santa reportedly swings by once a year. Castillo is an endless reminder of not just the dropped pop-up that symbolized the breadth and depth of the disaster of 2009 but also the organization’s severe lack of judgment in signing the wrong players to the wrong contracts. He’s been here forever and he’s only been here two and a third years, ya know? No, Castillo wasn’t the Mets’ worst problem of 2009 and he won’t necessarily be the leading cause of their problems this year. But having to watch him settle not quite under pop-ups and get close only to select grounders throughout 2010 and 2011 is not an enticing proposition.

Jason Fry: I’m less disturbed by individual moves or their absence than I am by the fact that there isn’t a lot of evidence that the Mets went through the off-season with a plan. Who exactly were they bidding against for the services of Alex Cora, for instance? Meanwhile, there’s far too much evidence that the baseball operations department is incompetently run. Joel Piñeiro — who would have made a suspect rotation look a lot better — reportedly wanted to come here, only to move on because the Mets were busy with other priorities. Then the Mets picked a messy public fight with Carlos Beltran over his knee operation, unwisely reminding us that their own players don’t seem to trust the way their employer handles injuries. The Mets have had a run of buzzard’s luck, to be sure, but to paraphrase Casey Stengel, they’re going to be unlucky their whole lives if they don’t change.


Q. Starting pitching is arguably the greatest area of concern for this team. After Johan Santana, there are a lot of question marks. And the Mets couldn’t land a significant free agent to help stabilize the rotation. Can the Mets survive with their current crop of starters and do you see any of those guys (Mike Pelfrey, John Maine, Oliver Perez, Fernando Nieve or Jon Niese) emerging as a reliable No. 2?

Cerrone: Couldn’t, or chose not to? I mean, in the end, they didn’t want to overcommit to John Lackey, and time will tell on that. The majority of people who read MetsBlog said Piñeiro would not be worth the contract that was needed to sign him. The Mets were not trading for Roy Halladay or Cliff Lee. So, their options were limited, which was a shame, because I am not 100 percent sure they can survive with this rotation. It can be good, but it can also be bad. I believe Pelfrey has the most potential to step up, and I look forward to seeing what Niese will provide. But, basically, Santana can never have a bad game.

Prince: Unless an epidemic of efficient endurance breaks out, starting pitching may not matter as much as a reliable bullpen (or the burning out of one) in the long run. The Mets’ four returning starters have rarely given us seven full innings; last year none of them averaged six innings per start. I can’t imagine they’re all suddenly going to go long now, particularly with three of them returning from injury. Someone deemed the fifth starter isn’t likely to exceed their performance either. One hopes for lightning in a bottle to round out the rotation.

Fry: Pelfrey would have a lot better chance of emerging as a decent starter if he had a reliable defense — like one without Cora and Castillo — behind him. I’d like to see what Niese could do over a full season. I don’t have an enormous amount of faith in the other three guys.

Page: If the standard is survival — then, yes, I think this rotation could be adequate enough not to drag the team out of the race. This same basic group contended in 2007 and 2008, albeit with poor end results. It won’t buoy the team, however, if Reyes or Beltran miss significant time, for both offensive and defensive reasons.

I think Niese will emerge as the second best pitcher on the team. Most projection systems already like him better than Pelfrey, the presumptive second starter, and Niese has succeeded at every level so far. In fact, there are reasons for optimism regarding all five pitchers you listed, but also considerable downside and I wouldn’t yet classify any of them as “reliable.”


Q. The Mets did sign one star this off-season: Jason Bay. Was this money well spent?

Page: It is money well spent, in that the Mets got a good player, worth his salary, at least for the next few years. In terms of other conceivable uses of $66 million, though, this signing looks pretty uncreative and has a worrisome downside. Minaya and his team would have been better off targeting several cheaper, low-risk/high-reward signings that could improve the Mets’ run prevention and help build for the future. Signing Bay does neither.

Prince: If you can’t have faith in a guy who’s consistently shown power, who’s consistently driven in runs and who replaced a local legend in a pressure cooker environment (while not being psyched out by an overgrown left field fence), then we might as well not sign anybody. Bay shouldn’t have been traded for Steve Reed in 2002. It would be nice to have most of his past seven seasons back, but we’ll hope that the next four are representative of what he did in Pittsburgh and Boston.

Fry: I think it was money well spent. The back end of that contract could wind up pretty short on value, but big-market teams can afford these things — provided they complement such signings with a good farm system and being smart about complementary players and small moves. The Mets’ track record there, alas, isn’t so good of late.

Cerrone: It’s a safe signing because they had to replace Carlos Delgado’s bat and Bay will never make the Mets regret paying him. But, like I said earlier, the Mets’ problem has never been a lack of stars. Their problem has been a lack of depth. Also, if the plan is to build a team on pitching, speed and defense, how exactly does Bay fit into that?


Q. David Wright saw a major drop-off in home runs last season. Why did this happen and can he can regain his power?

Prince: It’s hard to execute a successful home run swing when your shoulders are weighed down from the self-imposed responsibility of carrying an entire franchise and when you’ve got organizational geniuses insisting you hit to the cavernous opposite field. Wright had just about nothing but success before encountering one obstacle-filled season. I’ll bet on 2009 being the anomaly and have faith in his stroke returning.

Fry: I think Wright came in, lost some early home runs to high walls and cold weather, let that get in his head and changed his swing. He then got the kind of pitches a guy with zero protection in the lineup gets. I think he’ll be fine this year. Or perhaps it’s more accurate to say I devoutly hope so.

Cerrone: I am not worried about Wright. He’ll be fine. He’s too smart and too talented to let last season mess with him. I think his struggle was a combination of things, ranging from the ballpark to a lack of protection in the lineup to putting too much pressure on himself. In the end, hopefully, it was a learning lesson and he’ll be better for it going forward.

Page: Wright’s power outage was most likely a confluence of factors. Citi Field certainly didn’t help. Greg Rybarczyk of hittrackeronline.com estimated in early July that Wright had already hit six balls that would have been homers in Shea that weren’t in Citi. His new, ill-advised approach at the plate, however, was likely the bigger culprit, as he seemed unable to make any contact at times, particularly on hittable fastballs. With Tony Bernazard out of the picture, hopefully Wright can return to the approach that made him successful.


Q. How comfortable are you with Daniel Murphy as the everyday first baseman?

Greg Prince: I’m more comfortable with Murphy as the everyday first baseman than I was with him as the everyday left fielder, but not as comfortable as I hope to be with Ike Davis as the everyday first baseman. Murphy is .317/.396/.537 as a pinch-hitter in 48 career plate appearances. Is 25 too young to start transitioning into a latter-day Rusty Staub?

Matthew Cerrone: I’m a lot more comfortable than I was, now that I’ve seen Davis. I like Murphy, and I want him to succeed, and I do believe he can be a popular and useful player for the Mets. But I see him eventually being a Mark DeRosa or a Ty Wigginton type player; someone who can play multiple infield positions, maybe some outfield, always hustling, hitting around .280 with lots of doubles, being a leader and getting 500 at-bats doing a lot of different things.

Jason Fry: Murphy is the kind of gritty player fans with any heart root for, and he did improve a lot defensively over the course of 2009. My question is whether he’ll ever hit with enough power to play first. If he can’t, where else he can play?

Sam Page: I have reconciled with the idea of Murphy at first for now, though I’ll never be comfortable with it. At least now we can look to Mike Jacobs and realize it could be worse. Murphy flashed some defensive potential at first last year, and while he will likely never have the bat for the position, hopefully he can recoup some value with his glove. He did make a famed adjustment in the second half of the year against inside fastballs, but in so doing, he hit like Jeff Francoeur, with doubles power and no walks. Long term, I think the Mets will make Murphy into a superutility, DeRosa-type, which suits his “tweener” status. For now, file it as another position the Mets could have improved, but didn’t.


Q. What one player or coach, or topic, has generated the most buzz among your online readers heading into the 2010 season?

Page: Francoeur has been the center of many spirited discussions. He’s an interesting player for a number of reasons and the minutiae of his game can be debated endlessly, to the point where people lose sight of the bigger question of whether he should even be a starter. His personality is also very divisive. Some people really take to him as carefree, while others perceive that attitude, because of his very mixed track record, as willful ignorance or sloppiness.

Prince: It’s been a battle of pervading senses, with “despair” leading hope from the first pitch, but “hope” getting a couple of runners on base in the late innings of spring training. Everybody’s pulling for “hope,” but “despair” has been on a roll.

Cerrone: Jenrry Mejia. I know, for me, I’ve been waiting years, decades actually, for the Mets to develop another dominant pitcher, and this kid looks like he could be it. The debate has been whether he should be a starting pitcher in the minors, or a reliever now in the big leagues. I don’t know the answer. I’m not a scout. However, what I do know is that the Mets should not jerk him around. Have a plan and do it, and let this kid succeed, because he’s going to be good – it’s just a matter of where and when, and most every fan knows this.

Fry: I think Faith and Fear readers are a bit fatalistic by now about strange Met moves and this ridiculous run of injuries. They just want the season to start, see what’s changed at Citi Field and hope for better luck. Frankly, they’ve helped me be less of a sourpuss about the whole thing. Besides, who can’t be excited about Mejia and Davis and Fernando Martinez? Those guys have been a lot of fun to watch.


Q. What are the chances of the Mets retaining Manager Jerry Manuel and General Manager Omar Minaya through the end of the 2010 season?

Cerrone: The same as the chances of their team making the postseason.

Page: Well, I thought those chances were close to zero last season and here we are. Minaya certainly didn’t trade the farm (or do much of anything) to build a surefire winner in the short term, which is both sort of admirable and doesn’t portend well for his job security. If the team misses the playoffs for the fourth straight year, I can’t imagine they get to stick around.

Fry: The Mets were seven games up with 17 to play in September 2007 (you probably heard). If the 30 months since then have taught me anything, it’s that my Mets crystal ball doesn’t work. I really hope the team does well enough that Minaya and Manuel stick around and everything I say here gets laughed off as gloomy and unfair. That’s one of the many joys of sports: if you’re a pessimist, your greatest wish is to have to admit how wrong you were.

Prince: Check with the 25 players who will be wearing Mets uniforms. If they do anything at all, I imagine Manuel and Minaya are safe. Ownership doesn’t seem in the mood to pay anybody off to not manage or general manage. But if they’re looking up at the Nationals in May, I’d say nobody’s safe.


Q. If the Mets’ stars can stay healthy this season, will they be in contention this year? Or do their problems run deeper than that?

[b]Cerrone:]/b]] Yes, but it’s not just about health, it’s about executing and playing smart, fundamentally-sound baseball. The Mets cannot let other teams beat them at what should be their own game in Citi Field, which is good pitching, smart base running and strong defense. If the Mets do these things, and stay healthy, they have the horses to win the N.L. East.

Prince: “Anything can happen” is both a cop-out and completely accurate in this case. The 2010 Mets are more mystery than usual because we’re not sure whether 2009 was the dawn of an abysmal new era or the unluckiest of aberrations. This is not a team we can count on for contention the way we felt entering 2006 or 2007, yet, given the injuries and the presence of several of the key players who had them contending regularly until last year, it’s not a given that we’re drifting helplessly into a 2003-style shame spiral. All such disclaimers aside, this doesn’t seem like a deep enough team, particularly with two of its three everyday stars out for indeterminate periods of time, to project as unquestionably solid. Their 0-0 record entering April 5, however, looks mighty good compared to 70-92. It’s certainly no worse than the Phillies’, Braves’ or Marlins’.

Page: If the stars stay healthy, the Mets could easily contend. Their problems do, however, run deeper than that, one such problem still being depth. So if any of the star players miss even a little bit of time or underperforms at all, the team’s chances are slim.

Fry: Well, Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran are already injured in April, so you could say your question has been answered. Assuming those two return in relatively short order, you can’t count out a team built around them, Wright and Santana. But let’s say the Mets do compete. Do you trust the people running this franchise to make a sound assessment of the team and pull off the moves that would net the three or four additional wins it might need to make the playoffs? I don’t. I think fewer and fewer Mets fans do. That’s the real problem, and as a lifelong Mets fan it scares me to think about how deep it runs.

Copyright 2010 The New York Times Company

hbcat
April 3rd, 2010, 12:08 AM
So is this as good as it gets for the Mets in '10?:

Grapefruit League
Team W L PCT GB

NY Mets 14 15 .483 6.5

ZippyTheChimp
August 12th, 2010, 10:28 AM
I have two tickets for sale:

Citfield, Friday August 20th


Ten Rounds of Boxing

Kaboom K-Rod v. Billy The Bat Boy



Bonus: Mets owner Fred Wilpon will sing the National Anthem, and a medley of show tunes, including Tomorrow (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/07/sports/baseball/07citifield.html).

:)

ZippyTheChimp
March 21st, 2011, 01:25 PM
Rejoice Met fans.

Castillo & Ollie are gone.

GordonGecko
March 21st, 2011, 01:30 PM
Gone but their $18 million in compensation are here to stay. The Mets have commitments for player salaries of over $133 million this season, and will probably lose hundreds of thousands in attendance on top of the discounting they've been having to make. They're already tapped out from every credit source they can find including MLB, their TV network, and JP Morgan Chase. I wonder if anyone's checks have started bouncing yet...

ZippyTheChimp
March 21st, 2011, 01:46 PM
Sometimes you just have to eat bad deals. Makes sense in the long run.

Keeping them on the roster risks further decline in attendance, and alienating your fan base is bad policy in a two-team city.

If financials are a big issue during the season, besides Castillo and Perez, Reyes and Beltran come off the payroll in 2012. That's $47 million off the books.

GordonGecko
March 21st, 2011, 02:04 PM
Of course, Perez should have been released at the beginning of last year. I would have held on to Castillio though, the Met fans hate him with a passion but IMO undeservedly so. He's certainly not worth his $6M+ salary, but he's a productive ML player. Only proof for that is to see the first place Phillies picked him up as soon as he was released

For next year, the Mets actually have $67 million less in commitments. The only big contracts left will be Santana ($24M+), Bay ($18M what a waste), and Wright ($15M). There's a big potential hit if K-Rod finishes 55 games or more this season. If he does, his contract guarantees him $17.5M in 2012. There is no way the Mets can afford to let that happen, so the question is do they just release him when he hits 54 games, or do they just bench him intentionally throughout the season. I don't even know that he could be traded with that toxic option in play

Full payroll detail: http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2004/12/new-york-mets.html

ZippyTheChimp
March 21st, 2011, 02:25 PM
There is no way the Mets can afford to let that happen, so the question is do they just release him when he hits 54 games, or do they just bench him intentionally throughout the season. The key word is finishes.

Sometimes the big outs at the back end of games aren't in the 9th inning. Say your 4, 5, and 6 hitters are up in the 8th. That's when some games are won, not the last inning against the bottom of the order.

Pitcher can't really complain (even if the situation is obvious), because in a sense it's sound baseball.

OmegaNYC
March 22nd, 2011, 11:46 AM
I'm glad to see Perez and Castillo, are gone. Perez, what a complete bust. To me, his best game was back in the 2006 NLCS - and we still lost (though that falls on Mr. Beltran, who will no doubt be gone after this year) Castillo wan't worth all that money. He only hit .235 with no HRs and only 17 RBIs. He hit over .300 in 09, but Mets fans will always remember that dropped pop-up (against the damn Yankees non the less). As Zippy stated, it is a bad idea alienating your fans in a two-team city. Especially in a city in which the AL counterpart has won multiple chamionships, and are only 2 years removed from the last one. It would be great to see some young talent come up. I'm please with Ike Davis and Daniel Murphy, so far. The bigger question is this: Would the Mets be able to afford and keep them? I won't be surpised to see Reyes gone.

antinimby
March 22nd, 2011, 12:42 PM
Only proof for that is to see the first place Phillies picked him up as soon as he was released
So you know that they'll be in "first place" already?

GordonGecko
March 22nd, 2011, 01:55 PM
from last year

ZippyTheChimp
March 22nd, 2011, 02:25 PM
Phillies signed Castillo to a minor league deal because a Castillo at Second is better than an Utley on the DL.

OmegaNYC
April 1st, 2011, 06:31 PM
There is about 45 minuets to first pitch. This off-season went by so fast. So many changes - both good and mostly bad. We're broke and we may not have our star players by next season. The Phills, looks as if they're going to run away with the NL, and every team in this division has gotten better. Jason Bay is on the 15-day DL. Did I mention we're broke?

No matter.

LETS GO METS! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTLmDuhV3AQ

mariab
April 1st, 2011, 07:45 PM
Did I mention we're broke?

No matter.


That's the spirit. We'll always get the money somewhere, from some intelligent, generous soul. :D:);):o

ZippyTheChimp
April 19th, 2011, 03:56 PM
The Killer Pees

Pelfry
Pagan

What's going on here?

mariab
May 4th, 2011, 08:45 PM
Putting an end to the rumors.

Heyman: Reyes NOT about to be traded (http://www.metsblog.com/2011/05/04/jose-reyes-on-trade-rumors/)

By Michael Baron on May 04, 2011, 5:06 pm
http://www.metsblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Screen-shot-2011-05-04-at-5.07.02-PM-480x231.png (http://twitter.com/#!/SI_JonHeyman/statuses/65876950354374656)
This afternoon at Citi Field, Jose Reyes (http://sny.stats.com/mlb/playerstats.asp?id=7066) spoke with reporters about the possibility of being traded to the Giants, and, according to SNY producer Matt Dunn, essentially said the following:

The only thing he can control is his ability to play baseball.
He isn’t thinking about the rumors, as he’s just focused on playing better.
He’s just happy to be healthy.
He hopes the team can rise to the challenge against Tim Lincecum (http://sny.stats.com/mlb/playerstats.asp?id=7981) tonight.

ZippyTheChimp
May 5th, 2011, 09:54 AM
I think the Giants would be foolish not to consider it. Despite the Giants' pitching rotation, Colorado looks like the better team. Reyes would be a good fit.

ZippyTheChimp
May 10th, 2011, 01:22 PM
Geez, can't the Mets catch a break?

Chris Young had an ERA under 2, and might have put some stability into the rotation. Probably out for the year with a shoulder tear.

mariab
May 17th, 2011, 04:29 PM
Yet another great big fat bummer. Granted Wright's stats aren't at what they should be, but the Mets need the hits/runs I know he's capable of producing. We're not so far back that we can't recover. It's good that he didn't fall back on his injury as an excuse for his performance. Hope this isn't long.

David Wright diagnosed with stress fracture in lower back, DL trip likely for Mets third baseman

BY Peter Botte (http://www.nydailynews.com/authors/Peter%20Botte)
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Originally Published:Monday, May 16th 2011, 5:47 PM
Updated: Tuesday, May 17th 2011, 2:13 AM

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/05/17/alg_david_wright.jpg David J. Phillip/AP
David Wright struggles to a .226 average with six homers, 15 RBI and 43 strikeouts in 39 games.


The Mets (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/New+York+Mets) have uncovered a definitive reason about what's been wrong with David Wright (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/David+Wright).
Pending free agents Jose Reyes (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Jose+Reyes) and Carlos Beltran (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Carlos+Beltran) have remained healthy and productive to start the season, but the Mets' slumping third baseman was diagnosed with a stress fracture in his lower back after undergoing an MRI before Monday night's game against the Marlins at Citi Field (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Citi+Field).
GM Sandy Alderson (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Sandy+Alderson) said the Mets were awaiting a second opinion by a back specialist at the Hospital for Special Surgery (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Hospital+for+Special+Surgery) in Manhattan (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Manhattan) before placing Wright on the 15-day disabled list.
"I thought going in (to the tests), it was going to be a routine thing," said Wright, who originally injured his back in a diving attempt to tag Houston (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Houston+(Texas))'s Carlos Lee (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Carlos+Lee) on April 19. "They had wanted me to get an MRI for some time now, and I kind of - I won't say put it off - but I felt like it was getting better … So I was shocked when they had me meet with the back doctors and the spine doctors and they let me know it could be a stress fracture.
"I was preparing for Josh Johnson (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Josh+Johnson+(Baseball)) and the Marlins (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Florida+Marlins), and coming out of that, my head was spinning and I think shocked is the good word for it."
Alderson stressed that doctors initially have indicated that Wright isn't facing "something long term" but likely "a nonsurgical course of treatment." Pending confirmation of the initial diagnosis, the five-time All-Star is expected to be placed on the disabled list, with a prescription for 10 days of rest before returning to baseball activity.
"David has played through that (with) not a lot of major complaints, and he was examined as recently as the end of last home stand," Alderson said. "If you know David, and this has been evident the last couple of weeks, it has been downplayed on his part.
"This was something we needed to check out and make sure it wasn't something serious. I think David himself was surprised by it."
Beltran and Reyes have bounced back from their litany of injuries to be the team's two best players over the first six weeks of the season, and the Mets have three straight series wins and a 14-9 record since a 5-13 start.
Still, Johan Santana (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Johan+Santana) (shoulder) is out until at least the All-Star break, replacement starter Chris Young (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Chris+Young+(Pitcher)) had season-ending shoulder surgery Monday and first baseman Ike Davis (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Ike+Davis) (ankle) and center fielder Angel Pagan (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Angel+Pagan) (oblique) also remain on the DL.
"Obviously, we've had huge dents in the armor and this is a big dent," Terry Collins (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Terry+Collins) said. "(Wright) is without a question the face of this team. His presence in this lineup is something we need. We're going to ask other guys to pick it up as of today. But I was shocked and I was unhappy."
Wright previously has been on the DL only once in his career, after he was drilled in the head by San Francisco (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/San+Francisco+Giants)'s Matt Cain (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Matt+Cain) late in the 2009 season.
"I've played through this (injury), so I'm not scared, by any means," Wright said. "Hopefully, I'll get this knocked out in two weeks and be right back at it. I'm more frustrated and disappointed knowing we've had some injuries and I was being counted on to help this team win games. Now I'm not going to be able to do that for two weeks."
Wright homered after two days off, including a rainout, on the previous trip to Colorado (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Colorado), but he's batting just .226 with six homers, 15 RBI and 43 strikeouts in 39 games this season.
"By no means is this a copout or an excuse for what I've done so far," Wright said. "I don't think this injury is the reason I'm off to a slow start, but these two weeks I'm going to get better and back in the lineup and start playing at the level I expect to play at."
Willie Harris (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Willie+Harris) started at third base Monday, but the Mets' other options include calling up infielders Ruben Tejada (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Ruben+Tejada), Nick Evans (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Nick+Evans) or Luis Hernandez (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Luis+Hernandez) from Triple-A Buffalo (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Buffalo+Bisons). With Davis eligible to return from the DL on May 26, the Mets also could consider shifting either Daniel Murphy (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Daniel+Murphy+(Baseball)) or Justin Turner (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Justin+Turner) to third base in Wright's absence.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2011/05/16/2011-05-16_david_wright_has_stress_fracture_in_back_dl_tri p_likely_but_surgery_may_not_be_n.html

JCMAN320
May 17th, 2011, 11:57 PM
Can't we do with the Mets what they do in European soccer where they demote a horrible team to minor league status? They are my pick to win the Little League World Series.

ZippyTheChimp
May 20th, 2011, 01:12 PM
Hmmm. No need for that.

Despite what's been going on, Mets are playing decent baseball.

GordonGecko
May 24th, 2011, 11:29 AM
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ZippyTheChimp
May 24th, 2011, 12:16 PM
Way harsh.

ZippyTheChimp
May 24th, 2011, 03:31 PM
Then again, when the owner calls his team "shitty."

mariab
May 24th, 2011, 03:50 PM
Well Manhattan Storage, there goes one great big demographic.

When you're planning to run a big Broadway show, you don't start it on Broadway. You start it in someplace like Schenectady. So for the 20th, 21st, & 22nd, we were in Schenectady.

Fred Wilpon: Stop hanging your dirty laundry in public! Bad form! Thought you had more class than that!

JCMAN320
May 24th, 2011, 09:04 PM
This is why I don't respect the Mets and never will. They are a joke of an organization. How can I respect the team when the owner doesn't and their own network doesn't (Family Guy incident on opening day) doesn't? They run themselves like a minor league team that is in the majors.

Why the hell does he rip Wight. He is nothing but a class act but he gets ripped by the owner. I agree hes not a superstar but thats youre guy you don't say it. Wright get out of here before this black whole of a joke of an organizations ruins you; get out while you still can Wright this team does not respect you and never will!!! This team thinks theyre the Dodgers for christ sake!!!

ZippyTheChimp
May 24th, 2011, 09:54 PM
That Yankees and Devils logo mix is just so wrong.

hbcat
May 25th, 2011, 08:16 AM
@ JC -- But you have respect for a team whose owner once hired thugs to hunt up dirt on one of his star players? This Wilpon/Wright "controversy" is nothing in comparison.

ZippyTheChimp
May 25th, 2011, 12:05 PM
If Wilpon is a Steinbrenner wannabe, he should think up insulting nicknames for the players he targets.

"Fat Toad" and "Mr May" were classics. One was deserving; the other wasn't.

JCMAN320
May 25th, 2011, 03:43 PM
Yes I am a Yankee fan; die hard and I know what George did was wrong with Winfield and he also called out Mattingly. He was dead wrong. George was at his best we he left the team alone. The Yanks are different now though and are more popular and famous now then they have ever been and they have in the last 15 years have become a world class organization all over again.

The Mets always do the wrong thing ALWAYS. They need a lesson in PR 101. They have Midas's touch in reverse; everything they touch turns to s***. The Wilpons just don't know how to run a baseball team. At this point I wouldn't trust them with a flea circus. Ths organization does everything wrong and arguably this is their lowest point in the franchises history because there is no light at the end of the tunnel. They have to earn my respect back they are just a walking punchline.

GordonGecko
May 25th, 2011, 04:27 PM
The problem starts at the top and everything that follows is a direct result of terrible ownership. First mistake Fred made was putting his idiot son Jeff in charge of a baseball team, followed by every wrong decision you can ever imagine - so you have what you see today

hbcat
May 25th, 2011, 10:20 PM
Yes I am a Yankee fan; die hard and I know what George did was wrong with Winfield and he also called out Mattingly. He was dead wrong. George was at his best we he left the team alone. The Yanks are different now though and are more popular and famous now then they have ever been and they have in the last 15 years have become a world class organization all over again.

The Mets always do the wrong thing ALWAYS. They need a lesson in PR 101. They have Midas's touch in reverse; everything they touch turns to s***. The Wilpons just don't know how to run a baseball team. At this point I wouldn't trust them with a flea circus. Ths organization does everything wrong and arguably this is their lowest point in the franchises history because there is no light at the end of the tunnel. They have to earn my respect back they are just a walking punchline.

I agree with this -- it's cyclical. Ownership and management go through slumps and hot streaks. So your "ALWAYS" actually means "in recent years" and does not extend to the 1969 season for the Mets.

mariab
May 27th, 2011, 09:48 PM
Damn damn damn.

Mets great Carter likely has malignant brain tumors (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/mets_great_carter_has_malignant_XtArt3q65HFPjcCUfR bPGK)

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POST STAFF REPORT
Last Updated: 8:39 PM, May 27, 2011
Posted: 8:13 PM, May 27, 2011

Doctors have told former Mets great Gary Carter they are "90 percent certain" the tumors found on his brain are malignant.
Carter's daughter Kimmy revealed the diagnosis on a family website Friday.
"It is with a heavy, yet hopeful heart, that I share with you the news that Dr. Friedman shared with our family early this afternoon ...that he is 90 percent certain that the tumors are malignant," the statement read.
Gary Carter, 57, a member of the Mets 1986 world champions, revealed last Saturday he would be seeking treatment.
"It was very hard for all of us to hear, as we have been hoping and praying that the tumors would be benign," the website said. "... We understand that we have a long road ahead of us, and we're doing all we can to mentally, emotionally and spiritually prepare for the journey."

A statement from the Duke University center where Carter was treated confirmed the preliminary diagnosis of a malignant tumor.
"Mr. Carter is in excellent spirits and good physical condition," that statement said.
Carter will begin chemotherapy and radiation treatments as soon as the pathology report is completed, sometime next week. Doctors expressed optimism the tumors are treatable.
"Dr. Friedman did tell us that he doesn't believe the tumors have been growing very long, which is encouraging," the statement said.
Former teammate Keith Hernandez said he was "very saddened. Obviously this is terrible news. I was hoping they were benign, obviously, like everybody else."
Carter was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 2003. The catcher hit .262 with 324 home runs and 1,225 RBIs in a 19-year career with the Mets, Expos, Giants and Dodgers.
He has been managing at Palm Beach Atlantic College near his Florida home.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/mets_great_carter_has_malignant_XtArt3q65HFPjcCUfR bPGK#ixzz1NbjcALc5

mariab
May 27th, 2011, 10:03 PM
He's allWright with me. Wilpon better not find himself on the bad side of David's parents.

David all right after Mets owner's comments (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/david_all_right_after_mets_owner_BY7v73a7KSsJ7C0X8 ngl6J)

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By MARK HALE
Last Updated: 7:45 PM, May 27, 2011
Posted: 7:44 PM, May 27, 2011

David Wright said Friday he felt neither hurt nor betrayed by Fred Wilpon’s criticism of him in The New Yorker, claiming that what the principal owner said won’t affect the third baseman's desire to remain with the Mets long-term.
Wright, the team’s de facto captain, said Wilpon’s quote – in which he called Wright “a really good kid” and “a very good player” but “not a superstar” – won’t affect his continued willingness to represent the organization off the field or support the Wilpons publicly.
“It’s somebody’s opinion,” Wright said, speaking about the story for the first time other than issuing a short initial response through email when it broke.
“That’s not the first negative thing that somebody’s said about me and it’s not going to be the last. I think that to play in this market, you have to have some thick skin, and I feel like I have thick enough skin where I’m not going to let a comment affect a relationship or affect the way I go out there and play baseball.”
In a 15-minute session with reporters, Wright did not mention Fred Wilpon’s name once. He also said that though he and Fred exchanged messages, the two had not spoken.
Wright said he did speak to Jeff Wilpon and Jeff apologized.
“Do I have a problem [with Fred]? No, I do not have a problem,” Wright said. “Obviously you don’t ever want anybody to say anything negative about you, but that’s not the situation that we’re in."
Wright is in the middle of a six-year $55 million deal that includes a 2013 team option.
“Do I feel betrayed? No, the ownership group has done a lot for me,” he said. “And I’m not going to let one comment necessarily change my perception of the organization that I grew up rooting for, an organization that drafted me, prepared me for the big leagues and allows me to go out there and play a game for a living.”
Wright later cracked, “My parents texted me and said that I was THEIR superstar.”


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/david_all_right_after_mets_owner_BY7v73a7KSsJ7C0X8 ngl6J#ixzz1NbnSfNTL

mariab
May 31st, 2011, 06:09 PM
Gary Carter has Stage 4 brain cancer, family confirms Hall of Fame catcher's tumors are inoperable

BY Bill Madden (http://www.nydailynews.com/authors/Bill%20Madden)
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Tuesday, May 31st 2011, 1:17 PM

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/06/01/alg_carter.jpg Howard Simmons/News
Gary Carter hits .262 with 324 home runs and 1,225 RBI in his Hall of Fame career. The former Expo, Met, Giant and Dodger is diagnosed with inoperable brain cancer.

The news keeps getting worse for Hall of Fame (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/National+Baseball+Hall+of+Fame) catcher and former Met Gary Carter (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Gary+Carter).

Family sources told the Daily News Tuesday that the 57-year-old Carter has Stage 4 brain cancer, and that his tumors are inoperable.
Carter is being treated at Duke University (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Duke+University) and first learned of the diagnosis May 21. According to a Carter family website, the father of three spent Memorial Day (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Memorial+Day) relaxing by his hotel pool and spending time with his wife, Sandy, children and grandkids. A posting by his daughter Kimmy said that Carter took a "VERY NEEDED" nap Monday afternoon after saying goodbye to his son D.J., who flew back to California (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/California).
"When I was a little girl, I remember many many awesome memories with my family. One in particular was when dad would play a song called Break my Stride by Matthew Wilder (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Matthew+Wilder) extremely loud throughout the house," Kimmy Bloemers (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Kimmy+Bloemers) wrote on the family web site. "It didn't matter where we were in the house. When dad played that song, it meant it was time for the kids to dance with dad. That is dad's mission...'nobody gonna slow me down...ain't nothin' gonna break my stride...gotta keep on moving' Dad has his down moments since being at this hotel and still not knowing a definite game plan on how to fight this; however, he has promised that he is fighting tooth and nail. He has and never will be a quitter. Dad is a fighter and a champion!"
The family is expected to release a statement later Tuesday.
Carter was an 11-time All Star who played with the Expos, Mets, Giants and Dodgers. He was a key component to the '86 Mets who won the team's last World Series title against the Red Sox. Inducted to Cooperstown (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Cooperstown) in 2003, Carter had a lifetime batting average of .262, with 324 home runs and 1,225 RBI.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2011/05/31/2011-05-31_gary_carter_has_stage_4_brain_cancer_family_con firms_hall_of_fame_catchers_tumor.html

GordonGecko
June 6th, 2011, 11:07 AM
That's terrible, GC is a really good guy. This is one of those cases where you have a set number of days left and it's up to you to make the best of it

GordonGecko
June 30th, 2011, 02:38 AM
So apparently this new hitting coach this season is now making a big splash with his hitting philosophies. Dave Hudgens has the whole team working the count and taking a simple approach to putting the ball in play and it's really starting to pay off

ZippyTheChimp
June 30th, 2011, 07:51 AM
About time they caught up to what the Yankees have been doing for years. And the Red Sox.

hbcat
June 30th, 2011, 11:20 AM
Both NY teams are hot coming into a weekend series at Citi Field. Maybe we'll see some great baseball.

ZippyTheChimp
June 30th, 2011, 11:40 AM
Both are playing today at 1PM. They can help each other by giving an L to potential wild-card teams.

Of course this weekend, the gloves are off. Yankees will spank the Mets.

If not, at least it will get some Mets fans posting to call me out.

mariab
June 30th, 2011, 04:22 PM
Well we took 2/3 from TX, as of this writing 2/3 from DET, so Yanks should stay on their toes. Although that's the way it's always been with the Mets. They can sweep 1st place teams, then it's "Oh crap, we lost to the Royals."

OmegaNYC
July 10th, 2011, 12:28 PM
The Mets have been playing good as of late; the pitching has been very good, too, the last few weeks. I wonder with Reyes being down, will that keep him within the Mets' price range. This team is very scrappy, and I look forward to seeing Reyes, Wright, and Davis, again. Though, I like seeing Tajada, Murphy and Duda, too. We're in a stretch in which we're facing 7 All-Star pitchers consecutively. That is going to be the real test. I think if we manage to go 4-3 in that period, the team wouldn't change too much. Though, I still think Beltran an K-Rod will be delt.

JCMAN320
July 13th, 2011, 01:03 AM
Mets' Francisco Rodriguez traded to Milwaukee Brewers

Published: Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 12:05 AM Updated: Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 12:44 AM
By Andy McCullough/The Star-Ledger The Star-Ledger

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Francisco Rodriguez spent 2 1/2 years as the Mets' closer.

The volatile closer with New York’s most famous vesting option no longer pitches for the Mets. In a move made late tonight that the team believes will provide flexibility going forward, general manager Sandy Alderson traded Francisco Rodriguez to Milwaukee for two players to be named later. The Mets also added cash considerations to expedite the deal.

“We thank Frankie for his contributions to the Mets and wish him well with the Brewers,” Alderson said in a statement. “This trade allows us to develop and more fully utilize other members of our 2011 bullpen and offers some payroll relief as well.”

Alderson will discuss the move during a conference call today. Going forward, the latter part of his above sentiment matters for this Mets (46-45) team, which still harbors hopes of competing this season. They believe they can do so without Rodriguez, whose contract features a $17.5 million vesting option if he finished 55 games. He was on pace to finish 60½ this season. The option contains a $3.5 million buyout clause. It is unclear how much money the Mets shipped to Milwaukee to make the deal possible.

Rodriguez (3.16 ERA, 23 saves) leaves the team 21 finishes away from hitting the magic number. For practical purposes, the Mets could not allow Rodriguez’s option to vest. Alderson desires financial flexibility to rebuild. At $17.5 million, Rodriguez would have been the highest-paid closer in baseball. The price appeared too steep to even consider.

As always, Rodriguez grabbed headlines in recent weeks. He switched agents, ditching longtime representative Paul Kinzer for industry titan Scott Boras. In Phoenix, Boras told reporters that he would attempt to block any trade that forced Rodriguez to become a set-up man. The Brewers already employ a closer, John Axford. Will the situation be an issue? That’s Milwaukee’s problem now.

Thus ends a tenure that lasted less than three seasons and featured inkloads of controversy. The lowlight involved the ugly brawl inside the Citi Field family room last August, which led to Rodriguez being charged with the assault of his girlfriend’s father. He spent the night in jail. In the process, he injured his thumb and required season-ending surgery.

But even before that, there was trouble. Before the 2009 season, former general manager Omar Minaya signed Rodriguez to a three-year contract with an option for 2012. The option would be considered a ticking bomb by this season, but when Rodriguez first arrived, he was supposed to be the bullpen’s savior.

The year before, the Mets relief corps disappointed as the team faded down the stretch. With the Los Angeles Angels, meanwhile, Rodriguez collected a major-league record 62 saves in 2008. Minaya ignored his decreasing fastball velocity and signed him.

In his first season, Rodriguez was a disappointment on the field (a career-high 3.71 ERA) and a magnet for trouble off it. He jawed with Yankees reliever Brian Bruney, having to be restrained when their paths crossed during a Subway Series game at Yankee Stadium. He reportedly argued with then-team executive Tony Bernazard.

In 2010, his performance improved. His behavior did not. Rodriguez fought with bullpen coach Randy Niemann. Then came the fight in front of teammates and their family members. He was banished from the team, placed on the restricted list and forfeited $3.1 million in salary to rejoin the Mets for this season.

As this season began, Rodriguez practiced contrition. He apologized for his actions. He rededicated himself to his craft. During spring training, pitching coach Dan Warthen raved about his closer. He had never appeared this focused.

Yet his relative success on the mound, and his improved demeanor off it, did not outweigh the financial burden he created.

For more Mets coverage, follow Andy McCullough on Twitter at twitter.com/Ledger_NYMets

Andy McCullough: amccullough@starledger.com

http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2011/07/mets_francisco_rodriguez_trade.html

OmegaNYC
July 13th, 2011, 06:43 PM
It's a move that had to be made. K-Rod, was slated to earn 17.5 million for 55 games finished; he's at 34. The Mets primary goal is to lock-up Reyes for the next 6 or 7 years. By trading K-Rod, it will free up some money for Reyes. Beltran will no doubt be next.

JCMAN320
July 13th, 2011, 07:23 PM
I still don't think Reyes is sticking around to rebuild this team that will take 3-5 years to be a legit contender. He wants more money and his numbers and performance are backing that up. Even with Beltran and K-Rod how are you going to afford him when you still have to sign other players and give them money. He hamstrings you guys that if you give him a ton of money, even 3\4 of what he wants, it limits what else thr team can do and who they can go after. Let him go and get solid prospects in return.

Madoff and the Wilpons screwed this over good and now this is what the Mets are a ship adrift at sea.

GordonGecko
July 14th, 2011, 02:35 PM
Mets need to find a way to move Jason Bay. He's the black hole on this payroll

ZippyTheChimp
July 14th, 2011, 05:23 PM
The outfield walls are what they need to move.

JCMAN320
July 14th, 2011, 06:37 PM
Yea the deminsions are almost exactly similar to that of Coors Field. They have an excuse though they are MILE HIGH!! What the hell were the Wilpons smoking building it that damn big?!?

What they now need to do are build a team to suit the ballpark. A guy like Jose Reyes is perfect for it. Get great pictching and a bunch of linedrives gappers, doubles, and triples hitters. They basically screwed the holly hell out of Wright, Beltran, Bay, and Davis.

Take A-Rod for example that towering shot he hit a Citi Field during the last interleague series that went off the Great Wall of Flushing would of been out of ANY other ball park except for Citi Field! Francouer was right the place is a damn joke!

Ninjahedge
July 15th, 2011, 01:44 PM
So maybe they will have to learn how to run fast, play the bases and do other things rather than lean on their heavy hitters?

I would rather have a game that is dominated by the base-running and fieldwork rather than a few overpriced sluggers knocking it over a low wall with a backwind...

mariab
July 17th, 2011, 07:34 PM
Well at least yesterday's game was a keeper. Especially the Keystone Cops error by the Phils in the first inning, & if they didn't know who Hairston was before, they sure know now.

eddhead
July 20th, 2011, 10:47 AM
Fascinating article on the fall of Lenny Dykstra. Really sad.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/20/sports/baseball/the-financial-fall-of-lenny-dykstra.html?_r=1&ref=sports&pagewanted=print

By HARVEY ARATON
LOS ANGELES — Before promoting a single stock or venturing into the perilous world of magazine publishing, Lenny Dykstra lived the good life, essentially risk-free. He signed autographs, shook hands and banked the profits from his car-wash business.


“We had him on the payroll for $1 million a year,” said Kevin Dykstra, Lenny’s younger brother, who managed a string of car-wash and quick lube centers in the Los Angeles area for him. “He was enjoying his retirement from baseball, playing a little golf. But then Lenny had to go do what he did.”


Known as Nails during a flamboyant 12-year career with the Mets and the Phillies for playing with abandon and running into walls, Dykstra is now surrounded by them. He could be in prison for years.


A life once brimming with unbridled energy and flush with cash has ground to a bankrupt halt. Dykstra’s wife of 23 years — the mother of his three sons — divorced him. His mother and brothers are estranged from him. Only former teammates appear to feel sorry for what has become of him.


“Believe me when I tell you that his old friends, the guys who played with Lenny, are heartsick thinking about him being confined to a tiny cell,” said Bobby Ojeda, a starting pitcher on the Mets’ 1986 World Series champions and now an analyst for the cable network SNY.


Not long ago, Dykstra was the proud owner of an $18.5 million mansion in Thousand Oaks, Calif., which he purchased in 2007 from Wayne Gretzky. But since early June, home has been a Los Angeles County jail in a part of the city with no ocean views and where bail bondsmen storefronts outnumber palm trees.


Dykstra, 48, faces federal charges of bankruptcy fraud and obstruction of justice, along with state charges of identify theft, grand theft auto and possession of drugs. He has pleaded not guilty to all counts and recently boasted to his 5,500-plus followers on Twitter, “With your support, I will have my day!”


The promise, alas, was a come-on for financial contributions as Dykstra, who three years ago listed his net worth as $58 million, has been unable to post $500,000 bail and has been appointed a public defender in the federal case.


Even his authenticity on Twitter was suspect: the post was made by Dan Herman, a 26-year-old Phillies fan who idolized Dykstra as a boy, claims to be his business manager and said he was working on a Dykstra documentary to raise money for his legal defense fund. Another Twitter post on Dykstra’s account last week said: “Violence is not the only way of setting fire to the spirit of a people! I feel the human will supports me as it has in wars of the past.”


In a telephone interview, Herman characterized Dykstra as a well-meaning victim of “unscrupulous people” who tried to take advantage of his celebrity and of overzealous law enforcement officials in Los Angeles.


To those who have known him much longer, back to the genesis of Nails, Dykstra’s imprisonment is at least partly a result of a willful recklessness that was celebrated between baseball’s white lines but may have been fated to court disaster outside them.


Even as a player, he came alarmingly close. In May 1991, driving with his Phillies teammate Darren Daulton and with nearly double the legal blood-alcohol limit, Dykstra crashed his speeding car sideways into a tree, seriously injuring both of them. Two months earlier he was placed on a year’s probation by Commissioner Fay Vincent after admitting to losing $78,000 in high-stakes poker games in Mississippi.


Within baseball’s ultracompetitive environment, Dykstra was practically iconic among peers for his take-no-prisoners ferocity, Ojeda said. The demands of the game, he added, left no time to worry about possible long-term behavioral trends and effects.


“The truth was that we despised the guys who worried about their longevity, about getting hurt, and there were more guys with the same attitude as Lenny on our ’86 championship team than with any group I’ve ever been around,” Ojeda said.


“But there eventually is a transition to make, where you learn to self-govern and say, ‘O.K., I’m dealing with normal people now and I can’t play by those rules.’ Obviously, Lenny struggled with that. If he’d learned to listen to other people more and to take no for an answer, he might have headed off some of the trouble he finds himself in now.”


The problem was that Dykstra had long been conditioned to dismiss those who told him he was too small at 5 feet 10 inches and 160 pounds to be a major league center fielder, much less a star. He joined the Mets in 1985, sharing time with Mookie Wilson, after advancing through the Mets’ minor league system in four years.


“In a sport where we were all hoping we were going to be great, he acted like he knew he was going to be great,” said Ron Darling, also a Mets starting pitcher in those years and a broadcaster now. “He was unlike anyone I’d ever met. We used to think of Southern California guys as kind of soft surfer types. Lenny was the opposite, the original skateboard dude, the guy who broke into your house and took a swim in your pool.”


In Class A ball, Dykstra played under his eventual Mets manager, Davey Johnson, who lectured him on the wisdom of hitting line drives, playing small ball. Dykstra heeded the advice for most of his time with the Mets, but by 1993, with Dykstra having gone to Philadelphia in a 1989 trade, his body type changed drastically.


With muscle packed onto muscle, he had career highs in home runs (19) and doubles (44) and was second in the National League’s Most Valuable Player award voting to Barry Bonds after leading the Phillies to the World Series.


Injured often throughout his career, Dykstra played his last season in baseball in 1996. He was 33. But few were surprised 11 years later when he was caught in the net cast by baseball’s investigation into anabolic steroid use. Dykstra denied it but his brother Kevin — embittered by Lenny’s divestiture of the car-wash businesses for $51 million and not paid the $4 million he claimed he had been promised — cooperated with the former senator George J. Mitchell, who headed the investigation.


Kevin Dykstra, a former minor league umpire, told Mitchell that he had been a source of his brother’s recreational and performance-enhancing drugs.


“Lenny’s whole thing was that he always wanted to be bigger, in every way,” Kevin Dykstra said in a telephone interview. “After baseball, he was just never happy with what he had. He had a $4 million house, but he had to get Gretzky’s house. He had nice cars, but he had to have a Maybach. He flew first class, but he wanted his own private jet.”


Wayne Neilsen, who is the brother of Lenny and Kevin Dykstra’s mother, Marilyn, and also worked in the car-wash business, supported Kevin Dykstra’s claim of an equity stake in the business. “He screwed us all out of money,” Neilsen said in a telephone interview. “He didn’t do right by his family and we’ve kind of disowned him.”


By the time of the Mitchell report, Dykstra had moved on to a short-lived prominence as a stock-picking savant with the blessing of Jim Cramer of CNBC’s “Mad Money.” As with Dan Herman and others who hitched themselves to Dykstra during his well-publicized financial rise, Cramer’s fascination would seem to have been at least partly rooted in baseball rooting. He grew up in Philadelphia, and one of his first jobs was selling ice cream at Veterans Stadium.


In 2005 Cramer gave Dykstra a stock investment column on the TheStreet.com, a Web site he co-founded. Customers paid $999.95 a year for Dykstra’s advice, which was mixed with baseball aphorisms.


Chris Frankie, another onetime Dykstra and Mets fan, edited the column and said that Dykstra’s market prowess was no fabrication, as some came to believe as his life fell apart.


“I do think Lenny was deceptively smart in a lot of ways,” Frankie said. “He didn’t know everything about every company; he had about 100 stocks that he followed. He had a research assistant. He made picks when I was with him.”


Cramer insisted that Dykstra had legitimate market instincts, as long as he mimicked his baseball career, tried to hit singles and doubles, and didn’t swing for the fences.


“Lenny was doing really well, coming up with some terrific winning ideas,” Cramer wrote in an e-mail. “And then, well, honestly, I don’t know. It’s a sad story.”


Frankie and others who have worked with Dykstra said that his desire to live like a corporate kingpin, his fascination with private jets and his decision in 2008 to publish a glossy magazine intended to financially guide wealthy professional athletes hastened his downfall.


As business became more complex, his behavior became erratic and his relationships more hostile. He badgered employees all hours of the night, disavowed debts and operated on whims. According to Frankie, he frequently spiced conversations with quotations from a favorite movie, Oliver Stone’s “Wall Street.”


Ron Darling recalled a telephone call from Dykstra about the time he was pitching his magazine, The Players Club, which distributed several issues free to athletes and sports industry executives before going under.


Darling said: “Out of the blue, he said: ‘Dude, I’ve got a pitch in to A.I.G. Why don’t you come over? These guys like you.’ ”


Darling declined, but many did business with Dykstra and soon after regretted it. By July 2009, when he filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, he was awash in multiple court actions by creditors as large as the former Washington Mutual and as small as an older brother, Brian, who sued him for back pay related to the car washes.


His image and empire disintegrating, bills went unpaid and employees and even prospective employees were saddled with expenses as routine as interviews over dinner. The unluckiest employees were pressured into providing him credit card access with the promise they would be paid back with interest.


“One of the dumbest decisions I ever made, giving him my American Express card information,” said Kevin Coughlin, who left another job to become photo director for The Players Club, in part because Dykstra had been one of his favorite players.


Coughlin said that Dykstra ran up tens of thousands of dollars on his card, including one $32,000 charge for a leased jet from Atlanta to Helena, Mont., where Dykstra’s son, Cutter, was playing minor league ball. Coughlin worked only 67 days for Dykstra, but it took months to recover the money.


Kevin Dykstra said Lenny used the same credit card ruse on their mother, Marilyn, and alleged that his brother invested, and lost, the $700,000 bonus his son Cutter received when he signed his first professional contract with the Milwaukee Brewers organization.


Asked if the family has sympathy for Lenny, or any temptation to visit him in jail, Kevin Dykstra said: “Listen, we were once a really tight family, but we still can’t believe what he did to us. You know, people used to say, oh, there are two sides to every story. Well, the results speak for themselves.”


Kevin Dykstra said he is back to managing car-wash centers. But with three children to support, he lives paycheck to paycheck. “We had a $2 million business,” he said. “Everyone was doing so well.”


It is possible that Lenny Dykstra has similar regrets. He told Davey Johnson in a telephone conversation two years ago that the car washes had been his greatest investment because people would always have cars and no one would ever invent something that would make the business obsolete.


Upon hearing of Dykstra’s other investments, and recalling how Dykstra always raised the stakes from hole to hole during their 1980s golf games even when outclassed, Johnson thought: “He’ll either wind up making a bundle or losing it all.”


He wound up doing both, with prosecutors readying evidence that he ran way afoul of the law in the process.


“You think about what’s happened to Gary Carter, which is a tragedy,” Ojeda said, referring to the former Mets catcher afflicted with inoperable brain cancer. “What’s happened to Lenny was self-induced, yes, but to me it’s also a tragedy.


“I know people may not like to hear that or agree with me, but I believe that at least some of this has to do with chemical reactions in the brain and that there are people who can become addicted to the action, the adrenaline rush, the same way they become addicted to drugs.”


Asked if he also believed that Dykstra’s apparent fate was predictable, Ojeda said: “Absolutely not.”


After a pause, he added: “But would you have said it was unlikely? I don’t know that you would have said that, either.”

ZippyTheChimp
July 20th, 2011, 12:03 PM
Maybe Cramer and Dykstra should be cellmates.

eddhead
July 27th, 2011, 08:07 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/28/sports/baseball/mets-giants-beltran-trade.html?hp=&pagewanted=print

By TYLER KEPNER and DAVID WALDSTEIN
The Mets and the San Francisco Giants are on the verge of completing a trade that will send Carlos Beltran to the Giants in exchange for a top prospect who is likely to be Zach Wheeler, a right-handed pitcher taken in the first round of the 2009 draft.


The pending deal was confirmed by a person in baseball with knowledge of the talks.


It has been clear for weeks that Beltran, who is in the last season of his seven-year deal with the Mets, would be traded by the July 31 deadline. The Giants were considered a likely destination because they need offense to bolster a strong pitching staff that led them to the World Series championship last season.


The Mets, meanwhile, need many things, including starting pitching. The 6-foot-3 Wheeler, 21, is in his second season of minor league ball. He is 7-5 this season with a 3.99 earned run average for the Class A San Jose Giants.


In recent days, teammates of Beltran and staff members of the Mets had become increasingly convinced that San Francisco would be Beltran’s destination, at least in part because he seemed very open to playing there. And where Beltran wanted to play was important because he had a full no-trade clause in his contract and thus had the right to veto any deal he did not like.


Although news of the pending deal emerged only Wednesday afternoon, Beltran might have had advance knowledge that a trade was close. On Tuesday night, after the Mets defeated Cincinnati, 8-6, he took out a number of teammates in what amounted to a farewell dinner.


On Wednesday afternoon, as those teammates gathered in the clubhouse for another game against the Reds, they began to reflect on a trade that leaves a gaping hole in the Mets’ outfield and essentially shuts the door on any longshot chances the team might have in the National League wild-card race.


“Carlos and I go back to 2000,” said pitcher R.A. Dickey. “He’s a very complete individual, not only on the field, but off. That’s a valuable piece that we’re losing and it’s kind of sad.”


“We’re not mailing it in by any stretch of the imagination,” Dickey added in reference to the team’s outlook for the rest of the season. “But obviously, this will make it harder than it was before. That’s the truth.”


“He’s one of my best friends on the team,” said shortstop Jose Reyes. “He’s the guy that always took me out, talked to me all the time. And I appreciated that.”


“If you miss a guy like that from your lineup that’s big,” Reyes added.Beltran, himself, was not in the Mets’ clubhouse as his teammates spoke, although his locker still contained his various baseball possessions. For the moment, he was in limbo, waiting for the deal to be completed.


But he would no longer be in the Mets’ lineup — Lucas Duda took his place on Wednesday — and he is no longer in the Mets’ outfield, which now consists of Angel Pagan, who is struggling this year with a .239 average, and Jason Bay, whose struggles are even worse. Bay is batting .227 with little of the power that he used to display.


As for Wheeler, the very fact that the Giants selected him in the first round amounts to a ringing endorsement. Tim Lincecum, the team’s ace and a Cy Young award winner, was taken in the first round of the 2006 draft. Matt Cain, the Giants’ No. 2 starter, was taken in the first round of the 2002 draft. And Madison Bumgarner, another starter in the Giants’ standout rotation, was taken in the first round of the 2007 draft.

mariab
August 9th, 2011, 12:31 PM
This. Really. Sucks

Reyes on DL with bad hamstring, Murphy likely done
9:13 PM, Aug. 8, 2011 |


http://cmsimg.mycentraljersey.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=CN&Date=20110808&Category=NJSPORTS033001&ArtNo=308080037&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0 New York Mets' Daniel Murphy (28) is helped off the field after being injured during the seventh inning of a baseball game against the Atlanta Braves, Sunday, Aug. 7, 2011, at Citi Field in New York. (AP Photo/Frank Franklin) / Frank Franklin/AP

NEW YORK — The New York Mets have put star shortstop Jose Reyes on the disabled list with another hamstring problem and say infielder Daniel Murphy is likely done for the season because of a knee injury.
Both players were hurt during Sunday’s 6-5 loss to the Atlanta Braves.
Reyes left in the second inning because of stiffness in his left hamstring. The NL’s leading hitter was on the disabled list last month because of the same trouble.
Murphy left in the seventh inning with a sprained ligament in his left knee. He was spiked by Jose Constanza on a clean but awkward play. The Mets say Murphy probably won’t need surgery.
Infielder Ruben Tejada and outfielder Mike Baxter were promoted Monday from Triple-A Buffalo.

http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20110808/NJSPORTS033001/308080037/Reyes-DL-bad-hamstring-Murphy-likely-done?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p

mariab
August 19th, 2011, 05:08 PM
Screw it. It's football season.

JCMAN320
August 21st, 2011, 11:07 AM
Bradley: For Mets, moving in Citi Field fences is a good place to start

Published: Saturday, August 20, 2011, 10:44 PM Updated: Saturday, August 20, 2011, 10:55 PM
By Jeff Bradley/Star-Ledger Columnist The Star-Ledger

http://media.nj.com/mets_main/photo/9915084-large.jpg
Noah K. Murray/The Star-Ledger
The Mets are likely to alter some of Citi Field's outfield dimensions next season, a high-ranking team official says.

NEW YORK — Consider it just another part of the reconstruction of the Mets. Along with tightening the franchise’s payroll, expect Citi Field’s dimensions to shrink in 2012.

According to a high-ranking Mets official, “It’s pretty certain” some alterations will be made to the three-year old ballpark’s outfield dimensions next season. And while it will look like a reaction to the Mets’ abysmal home record this season (25-34), that’s just one piece of the puzzle. The Mets are looking big-picture here. As they rebuild their roster for next season and beyond, they know how difficult it will be to attract run producers to play 81 games in a park that’s gained the reputation as hitter-unfriendly.

“It’s very difficult to play here if you’re an offensive player,” Terry Collins admitted today, before the Mets lost, 11-9, to the Milwaukee Brewers. “Especially if you’re a guy who’s supposed to be driving in runs. It’s a tough place to play. If there are some adjustments made, I think that would help. I think it would certainly help to get some of our guys to relax. I’m not denying it won’t. I think the park gets in the mind of hitters.”

Among the changes, expect to see the left-field wall, which is nearly 16 feet tall, to be lowered. General manager Sandy Alderson, while not definitively stating changes would be made, said earlier this week there are nips and tucks that can be made to the 2.5 acre field that would not require any major structural changes to the ballpark. Of course, that would be in keeping with the tight budget the organization is working with.

It would not be the first time a ballpark was adjusted. In 2003, for example, the Detroit Tigers decided to move in the fences at Comerica Park after three seasons that frustrated their long-ball hitters.

David Wright, who along with Jason Bay has been the Mets’ hitter most adversely affected by Citi Field’s dimensions, said, “It’s frustrating when you hit a ball good and it doesn’t go anywhere. That’s not just here, but also in San Diego and the other pitcher’s parks. Of course, I’d like to see a place where you hit a ball good, you square a ball up, you’re rewarded for it. Obviously, that’s not the case here.”

This season, Citi Field ranks 24th of the 30 major-league parks in home runs yielded. The Mets have failed to hit a home run in 34 of their 59 home games and have just a dozen multi-home run games at home this season. It’s not an impossible place to hit home runs, as evidenced by the four homers the Mets and Brewers combined to hit today, including a monster shot by Angel Pagan that gave the Mets a 9-7 lead in the eighth. But if a 30-home run season is the benchmark for a power hitter, consider since the Mets moved into Citi Field in 2009 they’ve yet to have a player reach that mark. That’s why there’s rampant speculation that sluggers won’t want to sign with the Mets.

Wright, who has hit 22 home runs in 639 career at-bats at Citi Field, said it’s not so much the distances down the lines (335 feet to left, 300 to right), but the deep power alleys and high fences that make it such a difficult home run park. “I’ve never been one to lobby for anything,” Wright said, “But I’m a hitter and, of course, I’d prefer a hitter’s park over a pitcher’s park. Everyone knows this place plays big. I guess I’d love to pitch here.”

Creating the right balance between pitcher-friendly and hitter-friendly is what the Mets will seek before officially changing the dimensions. Alderson and the front office also have to operate with the knowledge that next year’s Mets roster could look radically different than what’s taking the field right now. And, of course, you don’t adjust the fences specifically for one set of players. You have to have an organizational game plan.

“It’s a difficult question because we pitch here, too,” said Collins. “Our struggles at home this year are not because of the size of the ballpark. I still think if you use the field for what it is, and try to take good swings, take base hits and doubles and possibly triples, you can still put up decent some decent numbers here. I really believe that.”

Indeed, if the Mets were on their way to National League East title or NL wild card, doing it with pitching, defense and speed, it’s doubtful anyone would be thinking of changing the dimensions of Citi Field. But with the team in all likelihood headed to its third sub-.500 record since moving to Citi Field, it’s a lot easier to switch.

“You can say you’re going to pitch, run and catch it, that’s great,” said Collins, “But you still have to score runs. There’s got to be a place for the power hitter. We have a tough time catching up because we can’t hit the ball out of the ballpark, especially here.”

The Mets have a lot of catching up to do.

Jeff Bradley: jbradley@starledger.com; JerseyJBradley

http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2011/08/bradley_for_mets_moving_in_cit.html

GordonGecko
September 1st, 2011, 01:57 PM
Mets' sale to Einhorn falls through
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/mets-sale-to-einhorn-falls-through-1.3137506

eddhead
September 1st, 2011, 02:14 PM
I am surprised this story received such little fanfare considering how huge a deal it was when Einhorn was identified as a potential partner earlier this year. My recollection is that the Wilpon wants to sell a piece of the team, but NOT SNY. That would be like selling a piece of the Yankees witout including a piece of Yes.
SNY is a huge revenue generator to the Wilpons, it is really the cherry to the franchise, and I just don't see them getting the deal they want without includng a piece of it as well.

ZippyTheChimp
September 1st, 2011, 05:44 PM
I don't think what drove this agreement (from Einhorn's perspective) was strictly a business deal, so SNY was of little consequence. It would be for others who are looking for a good investment.

No matter what their financial picture at the moment, the Mets are a valued MLB franchise, a trophy property in the league's biggest market. Einhorn seemed to be trying to do what Steinbrenner did in 1973. Steinbrenner wanted to buy the Cleveland Indians, but that deal fell apart. Soon after, the Yankees were available, and Steinbrenner jumped on it. As a business model, the early 70s Yankees weren't exactly attractive, but they were the NY Yankees.

No offense to division leading Milwaukee, but the Mets aren't the Brewers. Ownership of the Mets turns a wealthy but unknown Wall St fund manager into an instant celebrity. Einhorn gave Wilpon what he wanted - no piece of SNY, no say in team operations, and a short term loan of $200 million. Einhorn got a 1/3 stake in the team, but more important, the right to buy 60% of the team if Wilpon did not repay the loan within 5 years.

Seems to me that Einhorn was betting that if the situation with Picard went unfavorably for Wilpon, he would get controlling interest in the team.




David Einhorn is out of the running to buy a minority stake in the Mets

BY Teri Thompson and Michael O'Keeffe
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITERS

David Einhorn, the owner of Greenlight Capital, 'overplayed his hand' in his effort to buy a stake in the Mets according to a source.

Following a heated meeting in Midtown Manhattan with their potential investor on Thursday morning, the owners of the Mets ended negotiations with hedge-fund manager David Einhorn and began the process of selling several minority shares in the team for about $20 million each.

According to people familiar with the negotiations, Einhorn's attempts to gain approval from Major League Baseball as the team's "control person" - or voting representative - within a five-year period met with resistance from baseball and threw the negotiations into turmoil.

"What he was asking for was unprecedented," said one source familiar with the talks. "He was asking to become the control person before it was clear that he would ever gain a majority interest in the team."

Under baseball's rules, a team's control person is not necessarily the majority owner, although in the case of the Mets, Fred Wilpon, a principal owner, is the control person.

Einhorn characterized the issue differently in a conference call on Thursday, saying he had discussed pre-approval as the team's majority owner with commissioner Bud Selig, who he said told him the arrangement would not be a problem.

"I didn't hear another word about it until last week when I learned that the Mets had lobbied Major League Baseball to remove it," Einhorn said. "Further negotiations are now pointless."

One source familiar with the negotations called that scenario "fictional, a fairy tale."

The Mets' owners, Fred and Jeff Wilpon and Saul Katz, will now begin the process of selling 10-12 shares of the team for $20 million each, which will allow them to raise about the same amount that Einhorn would have invested to gain 33% of the team - $200 million.

The owners are expected to sell four to five shares immediately and will then reassess their financial situation: the Wilpon and Katz families and their partners in Sterling Equities have also recapitalized their investment in the team, adding their own money to the coffers.

The team issued a statement on Thursday saying ownership "has provided additional capital to cover all 2011 losses and is moving forward with the necessary resources to continue to operate the franchise. Ownership will explore other strategic transactions and is under no financial pressure to do a deal on any particular schedule."

Fred Wilpon, the Mets' chairman and CEO, said: "We are very confident in the team's plans – both off and on the field. We will engage with other individuals, some who have been previously vetted by Major League Baseball, along with other interested parties, regarding a potential minority investment into the franchise. My partners and I thank David for his interest in considering this opportunity and wish him well in the future."

As the Daily News had previously reported, Einhorn was expected to receive a 33% percent share of the Mets for his $200 million with a provision to up his stake to 60% if the Mets' owners did not repay his investment within five to eight years. If they did so, he would retain a 16%-17% percent stake for the use of his $200 million.

Einhorn, founder of the hedge fund Greenlight Capital, had aggressively moved to clear a path to majority ownership based on the financial issues facing Wilpon and Katz, including a $20 million loan from MLB, operating costs in a money-losing season and the specter of a $1 billion lawsuit from the trustee overseeing the Bernie Madoff Ponzi scheme case.

But Wilpon and Katz's financial situation has apparently improved over the three-and-a-half months of negotiations with Einhorn and they apparently now feel they can weather the storm by reinvesting in the team themselves and adding several minority partners.

"They're not going back to one big investor," said one source. "Their first order of business is to pay down the MLB debt and whatever bank debt they have and to invest in the team."

The developments Thursday in the offices of Steve Greenberg, a managing director at Allen & Co. who helped the Mets' owners in their search for an investor, ended what had become an increasingly contentious negotiation that dragged out over the summer.

Einhorn, who had been portrayed as something of a white knight who would save the struggling franchise, said Thursday that he is bound by a confidentiality agreement not to discuss particulars of the deal, but that the owners had made extensive changes to his original agreement with them. He said the path to majority ownership was completely unchanged from his original submission and that it included provisions that would allow the Mets to keep him from taking over the team.

"It is clear that it will not be possible for me to consummate the transaction on the terms that the Sterling-Mets organization and I originally agreed to several months ago," he said. "The extensive nature of changes that were proposed to me at the last minute has made a successful transaction impossible."

He also cited erroneous reports that have surrounded the deal, including several that said he would be able to take over the team within three years for $1 if the owners had not repaid his investment.

"Let me put such rumors to rest," he said. "There was never such a deal."

He said reports that he had incentive to see the Mets and the Wilpons fail so he could take over majority control were false. "That is nonsense unrelated to the way the deal was actually structured. The deal would have allowed me to root for the Mets on and off the field."

Einhorn, 42, was at Citi Field as recently as Tuesday, presumably rooting for his would-be team.

"This is a sad outcome given my lifelong love for baseball," he said.

© Copyright 2011 NYDailyNews.com.

eddhead
September 1st, 2011, 07:01 PM
Good article. It explains the dynamics of the proposed deal very clearly, notwithstanding the difference of 'opinion' regarding what Einhorn was asking for in terms of 'pre approval' from MLB.

ZippyTheChimp
September 11th, 2011, 12:49 PM
Screw it. It's football season.

If you're a Giants fan, we're in for a difficult season.

If you're a Jets fan, you know what has to happen, or it's worthless. See Eddhead.

If you're a Cowboys fan, I don't want to talk to you.

eddhead
September 11th, 2011, 05:30 PM
Hope springs eternal.

mariab
September 13th, 2011, 07:24 PM
There is no hope until next spring.

ZippyTheChimp
September 28th, 2011, 05:30 PM
This afternoon at Citifield:

Jose Reyes, in maybe his last game as a Met, dropped a bunt single in his first at bat, and took himself out of the game. He finished the season batting .3371, at the moment leading Milwaukee's Ryan Braun for the batting title. Braun enters the game tonight at .3345, and needs to go 3-4 tonight to overtake Reyes.

The Milwaukee-Pittsburgh game is meaningless. If I'm on the mound for the Pirates, I call the catcher out, and tell him to let Braun know that he's getting all fastballs tonight.

Sept 28th 1941 (70 years ago today):

Boston Red Sox were playing the last two games of the season, a doubleheader at the Philadelphia Athletics. Boston was 17 out, so the games were meaningless. Ted Williams was in a mini-slump. For the previous five games, he went 4-22, and his BA dropped from .406 to .400.

He could have sat out the last day, but he played in both games of the doubleheader, went 6-8, and finished at .406.

That last day is the part of the season that people remember.

mariab
September 29th, 2011, 02:55 PM
Politi: Mets' Jose Reyes doesn't need to apologize for sitting on batting-title lead

Published: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 11:30 PM Updated: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 11:54 PM[/h]

[/URL]By Steve Politi/Star-Ledger Columnist (http://connect.nj.com/user/spoliti/index.html)The Star-Ledger



http://media.nj.com/mets_main/photo/10091088-large.jpgDavid Pokress/MCT

The Mets' Jose Reyes leaves today's game in the first inning after a bunt single. He went on to win the NL batting crown with a .337 average.
The speedy leadoff hitter had a tenuous lead in the race for his first batting title, so with the blessing of his manager, he decided to take a seat in the 162nd game of the season.
This is Jose Reyes, of course. But this is also Willie Wilson. This is 2011, of course, and it led to a firestorm that ruined (http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2011/09/mets_jose_reyes_courts_controv.html) what should have been a celebration of a wonderful season.

But this is also 1982, a year before Reyes was born. This was in Kansas City, where a former three-sport star at Summit High saw a chance to become the first switch hitter in 26 years to win the American League batting title.
So, on the final day of the season, Wilson took himself out of the lineup and finished the season at .3316. He sweated out a big night from Robin Yount, the future Hall of Famer who went 4-for-5 to end the year at .3307.

“My pride told me to play, but my common sense told me not to,” Wilson said that day 29 years ago. “Robin has probably won everything else this season, so why couldn’t he let me win this? I’d like to have played, but I wanted to win the batting title more.”
There is no asterisk next to Wilson’s name in the record book. There is no disclaimer necessary or apology required. He is the 1982 AL batting champ, and he will be forever.

Read the rest:

[URL]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2011/09/politi_mets_jose_reyes_doesnt.html#incart_hbx

ZippyTheChimp
September 29th, 2011, 05:59 PM
Baloney.


But this is also 1982, a year before Reyes was born. This was in Kansas City, where a former three-sport star at Summit High saw a chance to become the first switch hitter in 26 years to win the American League batting title.
So, on the final day of the season, Wilson took himself out of the lineup and finished the season at .3316. He sweated out a big night from Robin Yount, the future Hall of Famer who went 4-for-5 to end the year at .3307.Willie Wilson played for the KC Royals most of his career (1976-1990). They were a powerhouse team then, with players like George Brett and Hal McRae. They won the WS in 1985. Fans didn't go to Royals games just to see Wilson win a batting title. And he wasn't leaving the team the following year.

Why did Mets fans go to Citifield on the last game of the season?

mariab
September 30th, 2011, 01:13 PM
Yeah but was that KC game a must win game? If so then I can understand him being there. As far as Reyes, who would it have benefitted if he played? I remember in '86 after they clinched the division, half the regular players didn't even play. Maybe not half, but a considerable amount of the regular lineup didn't play.


Why did Mets fans go to Citifield on the last game of the season?

Die hards who bleed blue & orange.

ZippyTheChimp
September 30th, 2011, 01:49 PM
Yeah but was that KC game a must win game? If so then I can understand him being there.I don't see the relevance of the question. The KC last game wasn't important, or of course Wilson would have played.

The author drew a similarity between Wilson and Reyes sitting out the last game to win batting titles. But it's different.
1. It was not Wilson's last game as a Royal.
2. Wilson was a good player, but not the star of the team. 1982 was a career year for him. The star of the team was George Brett. Who's the star of the Mets?


As far as Reyes, who would it have benefitted if he played?How about the people who bought tickets to see him play maybe his last game as a Met.


I remember in '86 after they clinched the division, half the regular players didn't even play. Maybe not half, but a considerable amount of the regular lineup didn't play.Today, the Mets are playing golf; in 1986, they were getting ready for postseason.

mariab
September 30th, 2011, 09:42 PM
Buying a tik for the last game just to see him play is a hell of a risk. Playoffs or not, there's always a chance he wouldn't have played.

As far as batting star: Reyes for avg, runs, & stolen bases. Wright for home runs & rbi.


1. It was not Wilson's last game as a Royal. But if Reyes knew it was his last game, wouldn't he worry about bringing down his avg anyway?

ZippyTheChimp
September 30th, 2011, 11:07 PM
Buying a tik for the last game just to see him play is a hell of a risk.Non sequitur. He did play. Got a hit in his first AB, and took himself out. The manager was uncomfortable talking about it post-game.


As far as batting star: Reyes for avg, runs, & stolen bases. Wright for home runs & rbi.
Wright's season:
14 HR
61 RBI
.254 BA
Nothing starry about it.


But if Reyes knew it was his last game, wouldn't he worry about bringing down his avg anyway?This completely misses the point. See my last post.

The first Met to win a batting title, and the entire SNY broadcast crew rips him for how he did it. Just another reason the Mets are the way they are.

eddhead
December 7th, 2011, 07:48 PM
I guess the Mets did'n't want him after all. He is an injury waiting to happen.

Reyes Says Mets Never Made Him an Offer


By DAVID WALDSTEIN
Lm Otero/Associated PressJose Reyes, now of the Miami Marlins, at a news conference on Wednesday at the baseball winter meetings in Dallas.
DALLAS – Wearing the new uniform jersey and hat of the Miami Marlins, Jose Reyes was introduced at a news conference for the first time Wednesday as anything other than a Met.


It was a jarring image, but Reyes wore a huge smile and talked about his new home and his new family after agreeing to a six-year, $106 million contract with the Marlins on Sunday.


Reyes noted that the Mets, who signed him in 1999 as a 16-year-old from the Dominican Republic, never made an offer and never demonstrated any real interest in re-signing him as a free agent.


He said no one from the Mets organization contacted him directly during the process, which confused him based on General Manager Sandy Alderson’s public assertions that signing Reyes was a priority.


“No doubt,” he said. “They didn’t do that. They waited for when we were close to making a deal with the Marlins, and that’s when they called. But they called for nothing because they didn’t offer anything, so it’s kind of weird.”


Several times Reyes noted that the Mets never produced an offer, but he said he was not sad about it.


“Right now, it’s over,” he said. “I can’t be crying about that because they didn’t show me anything. They didn’t push anything to have me there. Why should I worry about it if they didn’t want me? But I appreciate they gave me the opportunity to play professional baseball and play in the big leagues.”

GordonGecko
December 8th, 2011, 12:03 AM
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ZippyTheChimp
December 8th, 2011, 09:38 AM
KC Royals East?

ZippyTheChimp
December 13th, 2011, 12:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HjGjFq26JA

Seems like yesterday, you used to rock at Shea.
You score a run; we'd yell Jose.
So much for giving my seats away.
Yo Jose, they got to know that
Life ain't easy for a batting champ,
On the DL for every freakin' cramp.

GordonGecko
December 13th, 2011, 12:26 PM
Mets owners take $40M loan


The owners of the cash-strapped New York Mets have taken a $40 million bank loan while they try to sell minority stakes in the team.
A Mets spokesman confirmed today that a single major bank extended it the “bridge” loan in the last month or two. In November 2010, the club borrowed $25 million from Major League Baseball to tide it over.
...
A source close to the baseball commissioner’s office recently told the Post that the league is finally had enough of enabling the Wilpons.


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/mets_owners_take_loan_KNiNFpkgEyFRV3jIheL2MO

eddhead
January 24th, 2012, 09:38 AM
Really, a heart-wrencing story.

January 23, 2012

By RICHARD SANDOMIR (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/richard_sandomir/index.html?inline=nyt-per)

Like her father, Gary Carter, Kimmy Bloemers was a catcher. She played at Florida State. He spent most of his Hall of Fame career (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cartega01.shtml) with the Montreal Expos and the Mets (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/baseball/majorleague/newyorkmets/index.html?inline=nyt-org).

The two extended their sports bond in 2009 when Carter was named the baseball coach at Palm Beach Atlantic University, where Bloemers has coached the women’s softball team (http://pbasailfish.com/profile.asp?playerID=18) since 2007.

But the joy of coaching on the same campus has given way to the somber reality of Carter’s inoperable brain cancer (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/cancer/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier), a diagnosis he received last May. Since then, Bloemers has been writing an intimate family journal on CaringBridge.org (http://caringbridge.org/) about her father’s illness and how the Carters are being sustained by their Christian faith and his competitive fire.

The diary’s 55 entries, spread over 121 pages, create a continuing narrative of heartbreak and spiritual uplift.

In the postings, Bloemers writes with the exuberance of her famously upbeat father — a devoted younger daughter who says she copes with the grimness of her father’s decline with Biblical quotations, music, family meals and the generosity of friends and neighbors.

Late last May, she described her wish that the next day’s biopsy (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/test/biopsy/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) on her father’s tumors (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/tumor/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) could be performed in a crowded baseball stadium, rather than in Duke University Medical Center’s Preston Robert Tisch Brain Tumor Center (http://www.cancer.duke.edu/btc/).

“Dad loves to hear clapping, cheering and lots of enthusiasm,” she wrote, “so let’s get rowdy for ‘The Kid.’ ”

Several days later, after Carter, who is 57, was found to have glioblastoma, an aggressive, fast-moving cancer (http://www.braintumor.org/patients-family-friends/about-brain-tumors/tumor-types/glioblastoma-multiforme.html), Bloemers’s sadness at the physical changes visible in her father was tempered with the hope of a miracle.

“Team Carter believes that dad will hit one out of the park,” she wrote. “We are pouring the ‘unknown’ and fearful thoughts to Jesus and not allowing Satan to get the best of us.”

Then, last Thursday afternoon, Bloemers wrote “with tears” about the appearance of “several new spots/tumors on my dad’s brain” on a magnetic resonance imaging (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/test/mri/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) exam.

One of his doctors was to visit the family that night, but she has not provided an update since that day.

“The Lord is my strength and shield,” she wrote at the end of her posting. “I trust him with my heart.”

Despite her father’s condition, Bloemers, her sister, Christy, and her brother, D. J., were able to accept the “You Gotta Have Heart” Award (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120122&content_id=26420300&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb) for him from the Baseball Writers’ Association of America on Saturday night at the New York Hilton.

In serving as her family’s health-news emissary, Bloemers is following others who, through traditional methods or social media, have found a means to communicate the details of life-threatening illnesses.

The British-born essayist and atheist (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/a/atheism/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) Christopher Hitchens wrote as vigorously about his cancer (http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2010/09/hitchens-201009) as he did about the myriad subjects that engaged him with a fury before his death last month.

During the 19 months he lived with the same type of brain cancer that Carter has, the former Yankees outfielder and announcer Bobby Murcer spoke regularly about his sickness, (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/sports/baseball/09sandomir.html?scp=5&sq=sandomir murcer cancer kay&st=cse) returned to work on a limited basis for the YES Network and wrote an autobiography that described his faith and his devotion to his wife, Kay.

“God has blessed us so much since I was diagnosed with this brain tumor, and so many blessings have come my way,” he said during an interview shortly before he died. “It’s changed our life for the better.” He died in July 2008 (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/13/sports/baseball/13murcer.html).

Michael Douglas (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/d/michael_douglas/index.html?inline=nyt-per) has used talk shows and other public forums to discuss his treatment for throat cancer (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/cancer-throat-or-larynx/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier).

And after Randy Pausch (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/randy_pausch/index.html?inline=nyt-per), a computer science professor at Carnegie-Mellon, learned he had pancreatic cancer (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/pancreatic-carcinoma/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier), he delivered what was called his “Last Lecture,” (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5700431505846055184#) a direct talk about how to live. It became an Internet sensation and was expanded into a best-selling book before his death in 2008.

Although Carter has made some remarks about his illness, Bloemers’s account has provided a vivid, almost daily picture of a close, Christian family — Carter and his wife, Sandy; their children; three grandchildren; and two sons-in-law — coping with Carter’s debilitating treatments, physical therapy (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/physicaltherapy/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier), hair loss (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/symptoms/hair-loss/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier), bloating (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/symptoms/abdominal-bloating/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) mouth wounds, exercise, headaches, back pain, kidney stones (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/kidney-stones/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier), pneumonia (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/pneumonia/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier), falls that tore his rotator cuff, blood clots and emergency room visits.

There have been exhilarating moments, as when Carter was healthy enough to make a two-mile nighttime walk with Sandy, when he was able to swim for exercise, when he took notes during a church sermon, or when his white blood cell count (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/test/blood-differential/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) rose high enough for chemotherapy (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/chemotherapy/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier). One day last August, Bloemers wrote, “Dad’s tumors are 80 percent better!”

One night, the Carters watched all of his old commercials (Ivory, Pringles and 7Up — with Christy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux6Q_ynkvn0), a toddler, pitching to him). “He looked so good and happy,” Bloemers wrote.

Hank Aaron and Mike Krzyzewski have called, according to Bloemers. His friend and former Expos teammate Tommy Hutton has taken him for physical therapy. There have been disappointments that must have pierced Carter’s athletic pride as he has continued to coach his team. Last September, he threw batting practice, but not to his satisfaction.

“He tried a couple of times, and in his eyes, he had failed,” Bloemers wrote. “He talked with my mom and was saddened/disappointed that things are starting to be ‘taken away from me’ ... golf, throwing b.p.”

But when he coached a game a month later, she wrote that “he enjoyed calling the plays.”

“Dad absolutely loves to be the skipper,” she added.

Last month, Carter wanted to buy a Christmas gift for his wife. Bloemers drove him to a mall, but he was weak, fatigued and shaky and had to sit in a chair. As they left, Bloemers wrote, “the lady who sold me mom’s gift, pulled me aside and said she is adding my dad to her prayer list and hugged me. She saw the tears in my eyes and realized that it meant so much to hear that.”

Then, on Christmas Eve, with D. J. Carter dressed as Santa Claus, Carter stumbled and fell hard into a glass window, then onto the floor, injuring his shoulder. An M.R.I. later revealed a complete tear of his rotator cuff that will require surgery.

“Tough night for Dad, “ Bloemers wrote. “Thankfully, the pain subsided as time went on.”

In the entry that preceded news that more tumors had been found in her father’s brain, Bloemers described his joy at this year’s first practice for his team.

“Now that baseball season has begun, his spirits have lifted a bit and I believe he is excited to see his team,” she wrote. “His weak body limits his physical involvement, but the fact that he wants to go and still teach his players is beyond amazing.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/sports/baseball/chronicling-a-catchers-final-ups-and-downs.html?_r=1&ref=sports&pagewanted=print

mariab
February 3rd, 2012, 12:33 AM
As bad as he looks, it seems like he's still really with it. Sometimes hope is the most powerful thing on earth.

NY Mets great Gary Carter, battling brain cancer attends Palm Beach Atlantic University baseball game

Hall of Famer wanted to show up 'for his guys' daughter says

By Daniel O'leary (http://wirednewyork.com/authors?author=Daniel O'leary) / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Published: Thursday, February 2, 2012, 11:05 PM
Updated: Thursday, February 2, 2012, 11:28 PM


http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1016434.1328242505!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/image.jpg J. Gwendolynne Berry/The Palm Beach Post via AP

Hall of Fame catcher and Palm Beach Atlantic University coach Gary Carter (l.) holds his granddaughter, Alyse Bloemers, after greeting players on the field before PBAU's baseball home opener on Thursday.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1016432.1328242169!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_200/image.jpg J. Gwendolynne Berry/The Palm Beach Post via AP

Baseball Hall of Famer and New York Mets great Gary Carter (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Gary+Carter), battling brain cancer for the past nine months, attended a Palm Beach Atlantic University baseball game Thursday night, the Palm Beach Post reports (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/marlins/2144668.html).
Carter, the catcher on the 1986 World Series champion Mets, is the former manager of the Sailfish and wanted to attend opening day, said his daughter.
“He wanted to be here for his guys, here for opening day,” Carter’s daughter Kimmy Bloemers (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Kimmy+Bloemers), the coach of the PBAU softball team, told the Palm Beach Post. “It’s a great day.”
Carter shook hands with the players, tapping one on the cap asking “you doin’ all right?”
“Let’s get a win tonight,” Carter repeated over and over, trying to get his former team ready for the game.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-mets-great-gary-carter-battling-brain-cancer-attends-palm-beach-atlantic-university-baseball-game-article-1.1016431

mariab
February 16th, 2012, 05:19 PM
And he was amazin'.


Mets great Gary Carter dies, 57

Mets Blog (http://wirednewyork.com/blogs/metsblog)
Mets on Twitter (http://twitter.com/NYPost_Mets)

By MIKE PUMA
Last Updated: 5:13 PM, February 16, 2012
Posted: 5:03 PM, February 16, 2012

Gary Carter, a Hall of Fame catcher and key component of the Mets’ 1986 world championship team, died today after a battle with brain cancer. He was 57.
Carter’s daughter, Kimmy Bloemers, made the announcement on a blog she had been keeping that provided updates on her father’s health.
In a major league career that spanned 19 seasons with the Expos, Mets, Giants and Dodgers, Carter hit .262 with 324 home runs and 1,225 RBIs. An 11-time All-Star, Carter was regarded as the game’s premier catcher of the 1980s. He was inducted into Cooperstown in 2003, after receiving 78 percent of the Hall of Fame vote on his sixth ballot.

Carter had been in declining health since last May, when he was found to have four small brain tumors. Further tests determined the tumors were cancerous.
A devout Christian, Carter hardly personified the Mets of the mid-to-late 1980s – teams that partied as hard as they played. Carter was resented by many in the game because of his squeaky clean image and willingness to embrace the camera. He was nicknamed “Kid” as a putdown in the minor leagues, because of the youthful exuberance he displayed.
“Look, we all disliked Gary when we played against him,” first baseman Keith Hernandez told author Jeff Pearlman in The Bad Guys Won! “He just had a way about him that [ticked] you off. But I respected him as a player. And when he came to New York, I appreciated him, too.”

The Mets were on the rise heading into 1985, with young stars Darryl Strawberry and Dwight Gooden leading the charge, when general manager Frank Cashen executed one of the best trades in franchise history by getting Carter, then a star with the Expos, for Hubie Brooks, Mike Fitzgerald, Herm Winningham and Floyd Youmans.
Just over a year earlier, Cashen had traded for another established star, Hernandez, as part of the team’s resurgence.
“I thought I needed Carter to put me over the hump,” Cashen said in 1986. “And he’s done it.”
Carter’s signature moment with the Mets came against the Red Sox in Game 6 of the 1986 World Series. The Mets were trailing 5-3 with two outs in the 10th inning and facing elimination, when Carter singled to left field against Calvin Schiraldi. The hit started a rally in which the Mets scored three runs, winning on Mookie Wilson’s grounder through first baseman Bill Buckner’s legs. The Mets then won Game 7 to claim the franchise’s second world championship.
“The greatest thrill of my career was certainly that amazing ’86 World Series,” Carter said in his Hall of Fame induction speech. “Nothing will ever top that, and the memories will last forever.”

Carter’s best season with the Mets came in 1985, when he batted .281 with 32 homers and 100 RBIs for a team that finished as the runner up to the Cardinals in the NL East.
Carter had a memorable Mets’ debut on April 9, 1985, when his 10th inning home run at Shea Stadium led a 6-5 victory over the Cardinals. Carter took his first of numerous Shea curtain calls over five seasons.
The last call for Carter with the Mets came in 1989, when injuries limited him to 50 games. He was released after the season and then spent his final three years as a player with the Giants, Dodgers and Expos. His best seasons came earlier in Montreal, including a second place finish to Mike Schmidt in the 1980 National League MVP vote. Carter also won three straight Gold Gloves beginning in 1980.

The 6-foot-2, 205 pound Carter was selected by the Expos in the third round of the 1972 amateur draft after a standout career as a pitcher and infielder at Sunny Hills High School in Fullerton, Calif., where he earned All-American honors as quarterback on the football team.
Carter made his major league debut with the Expos two years later and became the team’s starting catcher in 1975.
After retiring as a player, he spent four seasons as a TV analyst for the Marlins, beginning in 1993. Carter hoped to land a major league managing job, but never saw that dream fulfilled. He guided the Mets’ rookie league team to the best record in the Gulf Coast League in 2005 and spent the next season managing Single-A St. Lucie.
But Carter declined when the Mets asked him to manage at Double-A Binghamton for the 2007 season. A year later he drew criticism after openly lobbying for manager Willie Randolph’s job with the Mets – before Randolph had been fired. At the time, Carter was managing the independent Orange County Flyers. In 2009, he managed the independent Long Island Ducks.
Carter later spent two seasons as the head baseball coach at Palm Beach Atlantic University, where his daughter, Bloemers, is the softball coach.
Carter’s survivors include his wife, Sandy, and three grown children.
“I have always been a fan of the game first and ballplayer second,” Carter said during his Hall of Fame speech. “Maybe that’s why I had the love and passion for this great game so much.”



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/mets_great_gary_carter_dies_XRj3ADahn2UD9bXdWs8m4O #ixzz1maNsKz2E

eddhead
February 16th, 2012, 07:12 PM
Carter was perhaps the best catcher of his era and a legitimate Hall of Famer. Rest In Peace.

JCMAN320
February 17th, 2012, 01:33 AM
RIP Gary Carter. One of the best catchers of all time and a prime example of how the postion should be played. A sad day for NY and baseball indeed. My sympathies and thoughts go out to him and his family.

It's amazing to me that the Mets have yet to retire his number. They should definately get on that this year. The again this is the Mets; they can F up a wet-dream if they tried.

ZippyTheChimp
February 17th, 2012, 08:56 AM
Carter played most of his career in Montreal. The Expos retired his number, carried over to the Nationals.

Still, he was on the '86 WS team, an All Star four of the five years, and one of three Mets (Seaver, Ryan) with significant time on the team in the HOF.

JCMAN320
February 17th, 2012, 11:26 AM
Carter played most of his career in Montreal. The Expos retired his number, carried over to the Nationals.

Still, he was on the '86 WS team, an All Star four of the five years, and one of three Mets (Seaver, Ryan) with significant time on the team in the HOF.

Exactly why they should. You think with as limited success as the Mets have they would retire his number based on that alone.

mariab
February 17th, 2012, 03:17 PM
He was what was called a great "sportsman", & I have that in quotes because I heard my father say it once about one of the Giants, & it seems to be diminishing in professional sports every year. One of his '86 teammates said he was called the Kid because that's how he approached each & every game. He loved the game. The rewards were simply a bonus.

I have a great pic of him from a game I went to in '88. We were two rows from the Mets dugout, so I took some really good shots. They played the Dodgers (and won) & at the end of the game he's walking toward the dugout with a tired-but-happy look on his face & that's when I snapped it. If I had a scanner (sigh) I'd post it.

ZippyTheChimp
February 20th, 2012, 08:48 AM
Friday:
http://www.metsblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/GaryCarterESB11.png

Sunday in Montreal:
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0219/ny_u_canadienscarter_576.jpg



Canadiens, Brodeur, Robinson remember Gary Carter

By Dave Stubbs, The GazetteFebruary 19, 2012


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New Jersey Devils goalie Martin Brodeur watches as the Montreal Canadiens play tribute to former
Montreal Expos legend Gary Carter during NHL action at the Bell Centre in Montreal, Sunday, February 19, 2012.
Photograph by: (Allen McInnis / THE GAZETTE)


MONTREAL - New Jersey Devils goaltender Martin Brodeur remembers the days when Expos catcher Gary Carter would stop by the Brodeurs’ St. Léonard home, dropping in on the man who many times froze the Kid’s megawatt smile.

Denis Brodeur, Martin’s dad, was for years the Expos’ photographer, snapping the ballplayers’ Florida mug shots and their exploits on the diamond in Montreal.

Carter, needless to say, was in many of those photos.

And young Marty often tagged along when his dad headed down to West Palm Beach for the spring-training assignment.

On Sunday night, Martin Brodeur stood in his goal crease before his team’s 3-1 victory over the Canadiens and watched the emotional scoreboard tribute to Carter, who died last Thursday of brain cancer at age 57.

Denis Brodeur wasn’t in his usual spot at the glass taking photos of his son. He himself had undergone brain surgery Friday and was said postgame by his son to be doing well.

“Gary came to our house a lot and autographed pictures for me and my brothers,” Martin Brodeur said. “He was really close to our family. We were very saddened by the news (of his illness and death).”

Canadiens legend Larry Robinson had his own special memories of Carter, the Hall-of-Fame-bound defenceman and his wife, Jeanette, having been practically Kirkland neighbours of the Kid and his wife, Sandy.

“We knew them well,” said Robinson, a Devils assistant coach. “We’d been over to his and Sandy’s place on a few occasions. He was just a tremendous man. This was a very, very sad day. We miss him dearly.”

Robinson, who shared the Montreal sports spotlight with Carter during the latter’s 1974-84 Expos days, recalled doing various events with the Kid at CFCF-TV, and of taking his own son to the ballgames they both loved.

The Canadiens organized a tasteful and emotional tribute to Carter before their 6 p.m. game.

It began with the warmup shortly after 5:30, organist Diane Bibeau playing the Expos’ old theme song as the Habs skated onto the ice.

Every Canadien wore a sweater with their own number on the sleeves but with “Carter” nameplated across the shoulder blades and the Kid’s No. 8 on the back. Each helmet bore a No. 8 sticker.

Players were to autograph their jerseys and this week they’ll be auctioned at canadiens.com, proceeds going to the Gary Carter Foundation.

(A curious piece of trivia: centreman Bill Carter played eight games for the Canadiens in 1958-59 and 1961-62. During his brief stay he wore No. 25 and, yes, No. 8.)

The start of the game was delayed for a five-minute celebration of Gary Carter’s life, house announcer Michel Lacroix relating many of the Hall of Famer’s career highlights.

Canadiens mascot Youppi!, adopted by the Habs after the ballclub left town in 2004, appeared on the ice wearing an Expos uniform; he’d be back in his Habs jersey before long, but kept his Expos cap on to the end.

And then to the Eagles’ 1976 Hotel California album track New Kid In Town, a monster hit during Carter’s days in Montreal, a slideshow of photos and video of the Kid appeared on the scoreboard and flashed on the ice, followed by a moment of silence.

Brodeur would improve his lifetime record against the Canadiens to 43-18-5-0 with a goals-against average of 1.81, a save percentage of .931 and nine shutouts.

This wasn’t Brodeur’s busiest night, the first star’s opponent managing only four shots through the first 26:12 of the game.

The 39-year-old hasn’t committed himself to returning to hockey next season, an unrestricted free agent come July 1, but before Sunday’s game he said he’s leaning to another year.

Surely he’s discovered the fountain of youth?

“I don’t know about that when I wake up in the morning,” Brodeur said, laughing. “I want to concentrate on doing my best to get myself into a better state of mind to make my decision about my future.

“It will be how consistent I can be. That’s harder as you get older. Winning is a big part of it and being a family with this team has been a lot of fun. If that continues, it will help me make a good decision.”

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ZippyTheChimp
March 5th, 2012, 03:28 PM
Mets in the News:



Judge refuses to dismiss Madoff-NY Mets case

1:21pm EST

By Jonathan Stempel

(Reuters) - A federal judge rejected a bid by the New York Mets owners to end a $386 million lawsuit by the trustee seeking money for victims of Bernard Madoff's fraud and said the team might have to give up as much as $83.3 million of illegal profits.

U.S. District Judge Jed Rakoff in Manhattan nonetheless said he remained "skeptical" that the trustee, Irving Picard, can prevail on the rest of his lawsuit, which accuses team owners Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz of acting in bad faith in dealing with Madoff.

Monday's ruling could pave the way for a settlement prior to a scheduled March 19 jury trial in the case, which has been a major overhang on the money-losing Major League Baseball team.

Wilpon and Katz have said they saw nothing suspicious about Madoff in their more than 20 years of investing with him and "never for a moment" thought he was engaged in a fraud or Ponzi scheme.

Amanda Remus, a spokeswoman for Picard, said the trustee was reviewing the decision. Karen Wagner, a lawyer for the Mets owners, did not immediately return a call seeking a comment.

Rakoff said Picard could recover fictitious profits that the Mets owners got in the two years prior to the December 2008 bankruptcy of Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC. He said the amount would be determined later and could total as much as $83.3 million.

The judge nonetheless said the trustee faced an uphill fight to show the jury that the owners acted in bad faith by investing with Madoff during that period.

And in a move that could undercut a desire to go to trial, Rakoff said much of the "evidence" that both sides offered to support their cases would not be admissible in his court.

"Conclusions are no substitute for facts, and too much of what the parties characterized as bombshells proved to be nothing but bombast," Rakoff wrote. "Nevertheless, there remains a residue of disputed factual assertions from which a jury could infer either good or bad faith."

Last September, Rakoff threw out more than half of Picard's original $1 billion lawsuit.

Mario Cuomo, the former New York governor, has been mediating the dispute. His office did not immediately return a call seeking a comment.

The Mets have been slashing payroll and selling $20 million minority stakes, each representing about 4 percent ownership of the team, including a stake to hedge fund executive Steven A. Cohen of SAC Capital Advisors.

Picard has said he has recovered $9.1 billion for Madoff's victims, although much remains tied up in litigation.

Madoff, 73, pleaded guilty in 2009 to orchestrating what prosecutors have called a $64.8 billion Ponzi scheme. He is serving a 150-year sentence in a North Carolina federal prison.

The case is Picard v. Katz, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, No. 11-3605.

(Reporting By Jonathan Stempel in New York; Editing by Mark Porter, Maureen Bavdek and Lisa Von Ahn)

© Thomson Reuters 2011



Last year, the Davis foot-bone connected to the disabled list. This year, the Wright rib-bone connected to - what?


David Wright scratched from intra-squad game with rib cage stiffness

BY Anthony McCarron

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. – David Wright was scratched from today's intra-squad game because of what the Mets are calling left rib cage stiffness. Wright, who felt soreness Monday, said he was fit enough to play and would have if it were a regular game.

"Obviously, being an intra-squad game and so early, they want a few more days of going full speed," Wright said. "It's their decision. If it were real games, obviously, I'd be playing, but they want to take it slow, especially this early in spring.

"It doesn't hurt. It's just preventative stuff," Wright added.

Wright is still scheduled to play in Monday's Grapefruit League opener. Manager Terry Collins said Wright would go through a full workout today and Wright noted that he was only limited on Monday and Tuesday has been "full-speed" since.

"I don't want him to go game-speed in an intra-squad game and make it worse," Collins said.

In other Mets' news, the team is scheduled to have a bowling outing Sunday evening, a bonding experience that Collins introduced last year.

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On the subject of Ike Davis, I had to look up Valley Fever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_fever). I thought it was Compulsive Shopping by Teens in San Fernando Syndrome.


Valley Fever Diagnosis Not Worrying Mets' Ike Davis Too Much Yet

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. (AP) — New York Mets first baseman Ike Davis says he's ready to play despite being diagnosed with valley fever. Third baseman David Wright, meanwhile, will sit for a bit.

Beset by injuries last season, the Mets haven't gotten too many breaks this year, either.

Wright has been slowed by soreness around his left ribcage. Scratched from an intrasquad game Saturday, the All-Star was told Sunday by manager Terry Collins he wouldn't play Monday night or Tuesday when the Mets start the exhibition schedule.

"If this was opening day, I'd be playing 100 percent," Wright said.

Davis said he felt fine. Valley fever is a fungal infection that is released from the dirt in desert regions of the Southwest and can cause extreme fatigue. Davis lives in Arizona in the offseason.

"Forty percent of people who live in Arizona get it during their life. It's person-by-person, but it can take a year (to get over it). I could've had this for a year and not known it," he said.

Valley fever requires no medication. The Mets said the illness is expected to resolve itself.

"I feel great, and I don't have any symptoms of it," Davis said. "I'm not coughing or throwing up blood. It's not even hard to breathe. The doctor said I can play, but I can't get fatigued."

The team sent out a statement late Saturday night saying the 24-year-old Davis, originally thought to have a lung infection, had a different illness.

Davis hasn't changed anything about his workouts and hasn't reduced his participation in drills.

"I don't think this is going to be a problem. I just need to be really healthy and keep my immune system strong," he said.

An ankle injury limited Davis to 36 games last year, but he said he doesn't expect this setback to slow him down much. If he feels tired during the spring, he said, he will just take a break.

The Mets have said Davis' blood test is negative. A specialist has speculated that Davis has valley fever.

"The tests that we have, which include the X-ray, a follow-up to that, as well as the blood test, aren't necessarily conclusive because the blood test came back negative," Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said.

"There can be a delay of some period of time, so the blood test might become positive at a later date. What we have is a working diagnosis," he said.

Wright said the decision to keep him out of the lineup may have had something to do with Scott Hairston hurting his left oblique muscle Saturday — the same injury to his side that forced the outfielder to finish last season on the disabled list.

"In light of Scotty yesterday, I think it opened up my eyes. You hate to see a guy go down, but it'd be worse if two guys go down," Wright said.

"I think I can play, but it was taken out of my hands. Terry made it very simple for me and told me I was not playing," he said.

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antinimby
March 5th, 2012, 05:45 PM
Not only are things looking bleak for the current Mets but even former ones are having a bad time:

Lenny Dykstra sentenced to 3 years in jail.

:(
(http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Former-major-leaguer-Lenny-Dykstra-sentenced-to-three-years-in-prison-in-grand-theft-auto-case-030512)

JCMAN320
March 5th, 2012, 08:07 PM
This has to be the darkest period in this lowly franchises history; thats saying alot.

GordonGecko
March 5th, 2012, 08:13 PM
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JCMAN320
March 5th, 2012, 08:28 PM
What the?!!!??? Johan the season hasn't started yet. Atleast cut eye holes in the can lol.

mariab
March 7th, 2012, 12:18 PM
Cool Carter tribute pics. ^What the hell were the above pics about?

My sister read an article the other day - if I find it I'll post it - & in it Lenny said, paraphrasing, Am I proud of what I've done? Yes. Am I a criminal? No. I'd like to think the answers were backwards & I was hoping 3 years would teach him a lesson, but it doesn't sound like it.

eddhead
March 27th, 2012, 03:31 PM
The more I read about Dickey, the more I like him.

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- In a memoir due to hit bookstores later this week, New York Mets (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/nym/new-york-mets) knuckleballer R.A. Dickey (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/4695/ra-dickey) discusses finding a syringe in the Texas Rangers (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/tex/texas-rangers) clubhouse in 2001 as well as the sexual abuse he dealt with as a child. http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/mlb/players/65/4695.jpgDickey

According to an excerpt published by Sports Illustrated, Dickey reveals that he felt disgust with the prospect of teammates cheating when he spotted the syringe. He made four appearances for the Rangers during the 2001 season, while primarily pitching for Triple-A Oklahoma City.

"The sight of it makes me cringe, the shiny thin needle lying randomly on the tile floor," Dickey writes in his autobiography, "Wherever I Wind Up," which is excerpted. "My mind races with thoughts about how and why it got there. I know as much about needles as I do about jewelry, but I'm pretty sure this isn't a sewing needle. I don't know if this syringe injected a Ranger with insulin or cortisone or B12 or anabolic steroids, though you can hazard a guess when you run through the roster of my muscle-laden teammates.

"I'd never seen a syringe in a baseball clubhouse before. I've not seen one since. It may have been used for the most benign of purposes, but the mere sight of it makes me feel as though I am looking straight at Evil -- like seeing a weapon somebody left behind at a crime scene."

Dickey also discusses being abused at the hands of a teenage babysitter as an 8-year-old. He concealed the abuse for another 23 years.

"The babysitter chucks the pillows and stuffed animals out of the way," Dickey writes. "She looks at me and says, Get in the bed. I am confused and afraid. I am trembling. The babysitter has her way with me four or five more times that summer, and into the fall, and each time feels more wicked than the time before. Every time that I know I'm going back over there, the sweat starts to come back. I sit in the front seat of the car, next to my mother, anxiety surging. I never tell her why I am so afraid. I never tell anyone until I am 31 years old."

http://espn.go.com/espn/print?id=7742411&type=story

ZippyTheChimp
April 5th, 2012, 11:38 AM
Opening Day.

Everyone tied for first.

Nice sunny day.

Ace on the mound.

Good luck, Mets. You'll need it.

OmegaNYC
April 6th, 2012, 10:11 AM
Mets are so far, undefeated! :)

Most importantly, Santana looks pretty good, 5.0 pitch, no runs, and when he was in a jam, he got out of it. Also, the bullpen did a wonderful job. Santana's changeup looks still as nasty as ever. I think the Mets have to be cautious with him; don't pitch him too deep if his pitch count is too high. I think 5 or 6 innings pitch is perfectly good.

Mets has done something right (so far).

ZippyTheChimp
April 17th, 2012, 01:51 PM
Why are the Mets having a "tribute" to Jose Reyes when the Marlins come to Citifield next week?

Unfulfilled potential with the Mets, and he left at the prime of his career for a division competitor.

If the Cards did that for Pujols, at least you could say he helped them win two WS.

eddhead
April 17th, 2012, 02:22 PM
Wow, that is really pathetic.

OmegaNYC
April 17th, 2012, 03:28 PM
Not only that, but word is Chipper Jones, too! You know, the guy whom killed the Mets so much that he named his child "Shea". Just when I felt good at being 7-3, this pops up. Just let the fans cheer Reyes at his first AB, and just leave it at that. No need for him to have his own day. Jones shouldn't get ANYTHING!

OmegaNYC
June 1st, 2012, 10:13 PM
Johan Santana tosses first no-hitter in NY Mets history during 8-0 victory against St. Louis Cardinals at Citi Field

Santana steals show in Carlos Beltran's return to New York, ends 8,020-game drought

Comments (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/johan-santana-tosses-no-hitter-ny-mets-history-8-0-victory-st-louis-cardinals-citi-field-article-1.1088604#commentpostform)BY ANTHONY MCCARRON (http://www.nydailynews.com/authors?author=Anthony%20Mccarron) / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Friday, June 1, 2012, 9:54 PM


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New York Mets starting pitcher Johan Santana (57).


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St. Louis Cardinals' Carlos Beltran walks back to the dugout after striking out for his first at-bat off New York Mets starting pitcher Johan Santana in the first inning of a baseball game on Friday, June 1, 2012, at Citi Field in New York. (AP Photo/Kathy Kmonicek)



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Lucas Duda high-fives with Daniel Murphy and Kirk Nieuwenhuis after hitting a three-run home run off Adam Wainwright.





NY METS 8, ST. LOUIS CARDINALS 0 (http://nydailynews.stats.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gamecode=320601121)
Fans were on the feet as the ninth inning began, hoping to see history. Johan Santana (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Johan+Santana) warmed up calmly on the mound, but there was a current of electricity in the park. He had already thrown 122 pitches, but he was trying to do something no Met had ever done.
And then he did. Santana threw a no-hitter against the Cardinals in the Mets’ 8-0 victory in front of 27,069 at Citi Field in Carlos Beltran’s return to Queens.
That means that, finally, in their 8,020th game - including ties - in their 50th season, the Mets have the franchise’s very first no-hitter, ending one of the most notorious droughts in baseball history.

Santana finished the no-no with a strikeout of David Freese, sending fans into a frenzy. The Mets mobbed him at the mound afterward and the scoreboard read, simply, “No-Han.”
The no-no was not without controversy, though. Collins had talked before the game about monitoring Santana’s pitch count to take care of his surgically-repaired left shoulder and said he’d like him to be within the 110-115 range, which Santana eclipsed before the end of the eighth.
The 33-year-old Santana, who threw a shutout his last time out, was superb, though he had spates of wildness that resulted in five walks. He finished with 134 pitches, eclipsing his career high of 125 on Sept. 23, 2008 against the Mets, before the shoulder surgery that changed his career. Seventy-seven of those pitches were strikes.
Also, had third-base umpire Adrian Johnson not had a non-call on a sixth-inning liner by Beltran, Beltran wouldn’t ended the drama then. He led off the sixth inning and hit a liner down the third-base line that was clearly fair, hitting the chalk of the foul line just beyond the base. But Johnson ruled it foul.
After Beltran grounded out, Johnson and Cards’ third-base coach Jose Oquendo began arguing and St. Louis manager Mike Matheny came out of the dugout to argue with Johnson, too.

Santana’s gem also had the requisite sensational fielding play, too - left fielder Mike Baxter made a terrific running catch in the seventh inning to take a hit away from Yadier Molina. Baxter smashed into the wall moments after snagging the ball and had to come out of the game, but he got a standing ovation as trainers led him off the field. He suffered a left shoulder bruise and is undergoing further testing, the Mets said.
Tom Seaver twice got into the ninth inning with no-hitters - July 9, 1969 against the Cubs and July 4, 1972 against the Padres - but lost them both. Seven pitchers, including Seaver and Dwight Gooden, threw no-hitters after leaving the Mets and 10 pitchers threw no-nos before becoming Mets.

Lucas Duda hit a three-run homer and tied his career-high with four RBI and Daniel Murphy hit an RBI triple and a two-run single. David Wright walked with the bases loaded to force in another run.
Beltran, making his first appearance at Citi Field since the Mets traded him to San Francisco for Zack Wheeler last July, got mostly polite clapping when he came to the plate in the first inning, though there were some boos, too. The Mets feted him with a highlight video just before the game and then cameras went to him in the dugout, where he doffed his cap, smiling.
Collins has talked all season about keeping a close eye on Santana, who is coming back from shoulder surgery that caused him to miss all of the 2011 season and said keeping him around 110 pitches would be something the Mets would try to do all year.
Asked if the range could change much, Collins said, “Not by a lot, no. I talked to a couple of guys who dealt with some guys that had shoulder injuries and their recommendation was to keep him around that 110-112-115, no more than that to make sure the recovery’s what you want it to be."
And the Mets need to be careful with him, too, because he’s been terrific all season, all the more amazing considering the surgery he had to repair the anterior capsule of his left shoulder on Sept. 14, 2010.
“He’s been incredible, he’s been absolutely outstanding,” Collins said before the game. “To give us the quality outings that he’s given us has been remarkable coming off what he had to go through. I just hope, what has he had, nine starts” I just hope the next 20 are as good."
With two out in the eighth inning and fans chanting “Jo-han, Jo-han,” Collins emerged from the dugout and jogged out to the mound. Fans immediately started booing, but they turned to cheers when Collins conferred with Santana for a few seconds and ran back to the dugout, leaving Santana out there to face Beltran, who he retired on a pop to second.
Fans stood and cheered, almost as if they were anticipating history. They gave Santana another standing ovation when he struck out looking for the second out in the eighth inning. They knew he was going to the mound to try to become the first Met ever to throw a no-hitter.
And then he did it.
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St. Louis Cardinals' Carlos Beltran walks back to the dugout after striking out for his first at-bat in return to Citi Field.




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mariab
June 1st, 2012, 10:21 PM
yay!

OmegaNYC
June 1st, 2012, 10:41 PM
You mean: YAY!:D

ramvid01
June 2nd, 2012, 12:51 AM
I was lucky enough to be there live. Great game made the frigid night bareable.

mariab
June 2nd, 2012, 12:48 PM
I tried, Omega, but I think I'm on Caps Restriction. Believe me the feeling was there. :)

Ramvid01 you are lucky. Any pics? How close were you?

Bingo
June 2nd, 2012, 06:47 PM
Today's St. Louis Post-Dispatch...you think they're a little upset with the call?

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8008/7323318948_878128f03b.jpg

GordonGecko
June 5th, 2012, 02:23 PM
Today's St. Louis Post-Dispatch...you think they're a little upset with the call?

They have a lot of practice

*Mark McGwire

TREPYE
June 5th, 2012, 04:58 PM
Final






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W:Santana, J (3-2, 2.38) ;L:Wainwright (4-6, 4.98) HR:NYMduda (8) .

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Santana completes no-no (http://wirednewyork.com/video/play.jsp?c_id=mlb&content_id=21938903&query=game_pk%3D318513)





Thanks for the intervention...
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...furthermore, thanks for your well-lived 57 years here on earth.....

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:)

mariab
June 10th, 2012, 06:19 PM
whatever

mariab
June 25th, 2012, 04:09 PM
Well at least we didn't get swept.

ZippyTheChimp
July 10th, 2012, 11:40 AM
OK Mets fans.

At the turn:

6 games over .500
6 games out of 1st.
Tied for 4th for a wild card, only 2 games (loss column) off the lead.

Trading deadline at the end of July.

What do you do?

mariab
July 10th, 2012, 04:12 PM
Send the ones not producing down to the minors, bring up the superstars who are producing up from the minors because it is still early enough yet. Otherwise, it's football season.

ZippyTheChimp
July 10th, 2012, 05:52 PM
There are superstars down on the farm?

mariab
July 10th, 2012, 07:43 PM
I meant the superstars of the minors.

ZippyTheChimp
July 10th, 2012, 08:09 PM
Yeah, that's what I meant. The farm. The minors. Who's down there that they can bring up?

I was thinking more a trade, maybe Jonathan Broxton (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/broxtjo01.shtml) for the bullpen.

mariab
July 11th, 2012, 04:06 PM
Don't know any of the minor names, but whoever the best of the best is bring them up, send the bottom players down, not just to put fear in them although that would happen naturally anyway, and they can still recover and make it to first place. In 2007 they were winning two out of three over and over before that monumental collapse. Now they're not even doing that with the worst teams. Shake the lineup up a bit and by the time the dust settles there's still time to recover.

ZippyTheChimp
July 18th, 2012, 06:13 PM
Mets bullpen = http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/MtRedoubtedit1.jpg/230px-MtRedoubtedit1.jpg

JCMAN320
July 24th, 2012, 07:05 PM
The Yankees hold a press conference to introduce future Hall of Famer Ichiro Suzuki; the Mets hold a press conference to introduce Snooki on Star Wars night. This all you need to know to see just how far the Mets and Yankees are from eachother. Not only do the Yankees play better, but they outclass the Mets. The Mets are no better than a AAA team plain and simple!

OmegaNYC
July 24th, 2012, 09:59 PM
This team's ownership is so damn shitty and quite frankly, it's embarrassing to be a Mets fan. The bullpen is just down right putrid. The team has lost 10 out of their last 11 and now this Snooki business. I'm done with baseball for this season. Time for football, I guess.

TREPYE
July 27th, 2012, 09:48 AM
Matt Harvey strikes out 11 in debut, leads NY Mets to 3-1 victory over Arizona Diamondbacks


http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1122923.1343378049!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/m27s-2-web.jpg Matt York/AP

Mets pitcher Matt Harvey delivers in his major league debut during the fifth inning.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-09PlIF3EU (for cackle out loud comedy check in at the 6:00 mark)

eddhead
July 27th, 2012, 12:57 PM
One of my all-time favorite honeymooners episode ... "i have a friend Shirley who is bigger than you ..."

ZippyTheChimp
August 14th, 2012, 12:47 PM
Mets should re-sign R.A. Dickey to a new contract right now.

They probably could have locked him up earlier in the season for less; but if they try and play it cheap by negotiating next year while paying him $5 million, I think he'll test the free-agent market. It's his chance for a payoff after a ten year career, and some team would offer him big bucks.

mariab
August 14th, 2012, 03:50 PM
I hope they resign him he's the best. But if he tests the free agent market, he may get a one-two year tops offer, because he's already 37. I don't think he'll get more than a two year offer.

Other than that, it's football season. :(

JCMAN320
August 16th, 2012, 12:13 PM
If David Wright and R.A. Dickey are smart; they RUN not walk away from this horrdenous franchise!! This franchise will suck whatever these two have left out of them. David Wirght deserves to be on a team that will win and that respects him especially in the prime of career and give him what hes worth; and R.A. Dickey should test the market; he'll get his true value with another team, not with the Mets.

ZippyTheChimp
September 16th, 2012, 08:24 AM
Mets season pluses

Plus by addition: Johan Santana pitches a no-hitter.

Plus by subtraction: After 136 years of baseball, the 500,000th error is committed by Jose Reyes.

Plus by possibility: Mets win the series against the Phillies and keep them out of the playoffs.

mariab
September 27th, 2012, 09:06 PM
Plus by addition: Johan Santana pitches a no-hitter. Excellent




Plus by subtraction: After 136 years of baseball, the 500,000th error is committed by Jose Reyes.

Didn't know about that dubious distinction until I read it here.



Plus by possibility: Mets win the series against the Phillies and keep them out of the playoffs.

I'd throw a block party for that.




Hats off to R A for his 20th win. Also I have to give a hats off to the Pirates' Snider for robbing Baxter with that over the wall catch. Reminds me of Endy Chavez in 2007.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBUrOjpZakw

TREPYE
September 28th, 2012, 04:25 PM
Mets season pluses

Plus by subtraction: After 136 years of baseball, the 500,000th error is committed by Jose Reyes.

:rolleyes:
Spoken like a well-informed Yankee fan posting on a Met forum. Sure, subtracting one of the premier leadoff men of our generation was a real "plus".

Or even....
If your point is about the ignominy of being the team to give up this meaningless numerical value that this one error represented..... please; could find a less meaningful statistic to spend your typing on?

ZippyTheChimp
September 28th, 2012, 04:50 PM
^
Spoken like a bitter Mets fan who can't see my post for the positive that it was.

Obviously you don't speak for all Mets fans; Mariab seemed to take the post for what it was.

Reyes is a Marlin. Last time I looked, they were in last place; so just like when he was a Met, Reyes has done nothing for the Marlins.

I'm sure that if Reyes committed the 500,000 error as a Met, some bitter Mets fan would have whined, "We have to put up with this too!"


one of the premier leadoff men of our generation.LOL. Is that what the well-informed Mets fan says?

That and a metro-card will get you on the subway (excluding a subway series).

TREPYE
October 3rd, 2012, 10:46 AM
The Yankees are in a playoff race and you are posting silly Mets statistics and inaccurate assertions about what a good leadoff man looks like (as most people you ask will tell you, albeit he is not Rickey Henderson, Reyes is one the best leadoff men in baseball).

When the Mets have been fighting for the playoffs, the last thing in my mind was the Yankees. But then again Yankees typically win in a very mundane fashion. I guess it goes along with the Steve Sommers (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/category/sports/steve-somers/) old adage; that the Mets are always more exciting in defeat than the Yankees in victory.

Thusly, if you cannot focus on your own team during a playoff run perhaps you should switch alligances to the one that preoccupies you.

ZippyTheChimp
October 3rd, 2012, 12:11 PM
I post in lots of places in this forum. Don't you?

I think I can easily pay attention to more than one team; and as a baseball fan, I thought the Mets were an interesting story this year. As for the "Yankees winning in a mundane fashion." I can only laugh. You've hardly posted in this thread. Weren't you interested?

I notice you've already dumbed down Reyes from a premier to a good leadoff man. Well, that I'll give you.

But a premier leadoff man doesn't disappear when the team needs him most. Reyes slash-numbers for Sept:

2007 - .205/.279/.333
2008 - .243/.314/.402

He sure woke up during his contract year. Now that he has a mega-million contract, he settles back in from premier to good.

His most notable career accomplishment so far - assuming Ozzie gets canned - is being on the roster when three managers were fired.

The leadoff man of this generation that gets on the best of all time list - the one that has Ricky Henderson at #1 - plays for the Yankees. He's already on that list, and is going to the HOF.

Reyes had better step it up, all he'll do neither.

Oh shit, is the Yankee game on? Did I miss anything? It's so hard to focus on more than one thing at a time.

JCMAN320
October 3rd, 2012, 11:34 PM
The Mets are a bunch of clowns seriously. Btw get ready to kiss Dickey and Wright good bye. The Mets are an embarassment plain and simple.

TREPYE
October 18th, 2012, 11:46 AM
Talks about misguiding your efforts....


Fall of 2011:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...#ixzz29TwWX3nP (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-mets-unveil-new-smaller-citi-field-fences-featuring-closer-shorter-dimensions-article-1.970034#ixzz29TwWX3nP)

In hopes of creating a ballpark less hostile to home runs, the Mets on Monday announced official plans to alter the dimensions of Citi Field.
“Offense is exciting for many fans,” general manager Sandy Alderson said. “Maybe it will be slightly more entertaining."David Wright, who has hit 10, 29 and 14 homers, respectively, in three seasons at Citi Field, told the Daily News that he was happy to see changes.

“You never really know how a park plays until you play there,” Wright said. “But you tell a hitter that the ballpark is getting smaller, they are obviously happy.”

The third baseman, who received an email about the changes from the front office in advance of the announcement, said the alterations were “probably going to make it more fair,” rather than “favoring pitchers or hitters.”

The new configuration will create an eight-foot home run line throughout the outfield, move fences closer to home plate and create additional outfield seating and blue walls reminiscent of Shea Stadium.

In left field, the wall will move approximately four feet closer to home plate, stretching to approximately 12 feet closer in deep left-center. A new wall in right-center will be about 11 feet closer to home, and a fence will be erected in front of the “Mo’s Zone” cutout in right field.

Behind that fence, an area will be created to accomodate about 50 fans; about 100 fans will now be able to fit between the existing left field wall and the new one.

The changes, which Alderson all but confirmed in September, came after three years of difficulty for Mets hitters. By last season - when, according to hittrackeronlone.com, Citi Field allowed 1.33 homers per game, fourth stingiest in the National League - current and former Mets such as Wright, Jason Bay and Jeff Francoeur admitted the park was challenging.

Francoeur, now with the Royals, told the Kansas City Star this year that Citi Field was a “damn joke.”

Alderson acknowledged that psychology and player sentiment factored into the team’s decision.

“You don’t want the ballpark to be a distraction,” he said. “That left field wall kept getting higher and higher.”

According to Alderson, an internal analysis of Citi Field’s first three seasons estimated that the new dimension would have yielded 81 more Mets home runs, and 70 more for opposing teams.
“I don’t want to give you the impression we’ve done this for David, or we’ve done this for Ike (Davis), or we’ve done this for anybody in particular,” Alderson said. “It’s really about having a more neutral ballpark.”

While more balls will clear the fences, pitching coach Dan Warthen endorsed the idea in September.

“In smaller ballparks, we concentrate better,” Warthen told The News then, citing concerns that Mets pitchers had become overly relaxed in cavernous Citi Field, and were not sufficiently focused on executing quality pitches.

Mets chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon declined to specify the cost of the renovation, but said it fell within the original $800 million budget, not all of which was spent during construction.
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Fall of 2012:
http://www.sportsgrid.com/mlb/dimens...new-york-mets/ (http://www.sportsgrid.com/mlb/dimension-changes-to-citi-field-actually-hurt-the-new-york-mets-because-the-new-york-mets/)
NEW YORK (AP) -- Citi Field's smaller dimensions helped opponents more than the New York Mets.
Of the 46 home runs this year that would not have cleared the old wall, 21 were hit by New York, according to figures compiled by the team.

The Mets erected a new blue fence in front of the old green wall at the 4-year-old ballpark, lowering the height needed for a home run to 8 feet from as much as 16 and cutting the distance from home plate by up to 12 feet.

Home runs increased to 155, up from 130 in 2009, 110 the following year and 108 last season, according to STATS LLC.

But opponents benefited the most. Visiting homers went up to 88, a boost from 81 in 2009, 47 the following season and 58 last year. It was the highest total against the Mets since 91 at Shea Stadium in 2001.

On April 20, rookie Kirk Nieuwenhuis became the first left-handed Mets batter to clear Citi Field's left-field fence, which had been nicknamed the Great Wall of Flushing under the original dimensions. Nieuwenhuis did it again June 23 and Jordany Valdespin followed on July 20, according to STATS LLC.

''I think it's a fair park now,'' Mets manager Terry Collins said. ''It's still a pitchers' park for me. It's still a big park. There's a lot of room in that outfield. But I think the changes in the dimensions certainly lifted the confidence of a lot of guys in our lineup.''

New York was 36-45 at home with 287 runs, its lowest total since finishing with 235 at Shea in 1994.Citi Field began Thursday 19th among the 30 big league ballparks in home runs per game at 1.89. Yankee Stadium led at 2.83 and San Francisco's AT&T Park was last at 1.01.

''I think that it's made the park obviously a little more fair,'' Wright said. ''Hopefully we can continue to build on that.''

And the new dimension created opportunities for spectacular leaping catches, like the one Pittsburgh right fielder Travis Snider made against Mike Baxter on Thursday.



So basically the new dimensions yielded a team output that is on par with the legendary "worst team money can buy".

eddhead
November 14th, 2012, 09:07 PM
Couldn't have happened to a better and more deserving guy. In an era of egotistical ballplayers who seem to have little regard for the fan base that supports them, Dickey sticks out. He comes across and being very humble and his story is very compelling.


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Wednesday, November 14, 2012

R.A. Dickey wins NL Cy Young


By Adam Rubin
ESPNNewYork.com

Two years after R.A. Dickey was the first player cut by the New York Mets in spring training, he now has a Cy Young Award on his résume

Dickey won the National League Cy Young on Wednesday, becoming the first knuckleballer to receive the honor.

Dickey, who went 20-6, received 27-of-32 first-place votes and 209 overall points in balloting by the Baseball Writers' Association of America. Los Angeles Dodgers left-hander Clayton Kershaw finished second with two first-place votes and 96 points, followed by Washington Nationals left-hander Gio Gonzalez, who received one first-place vote and 93 points.

"Clayton and Gio were both just supernatural in the way that they perform," Dickey told MLB Network. "I've had to hit against them both, and it is ridiculous trying to pick up the ball on those guys. They gave everybody fits. Just being mentioned in the same breath as those guys is an honor.

NL Cy Young Award Voting

R.A. Dickey won the National League Cy Young Award by a wide margin, receiving 27 out of 32 possible first-place votes and 209 total points, which were awarded on a 7-4-3-2-1 basis.

Player 1st Total Pts
R.A. Dickey, NYM 27 209
Clayton Kershaw, LAD 2 96
Gio Gonzalez, WAS 1 93
Johnny Cueto, CIN 1 75
Craig Kimbrel, ATL 1 41
Matt Cain, SFG 0 22
Kyle Lohse, STL 0 6
Aroldis Chapman, CIN 0 1
Cole Hamels, PHI 0 1

"But for me, this is an honor to be shared. It's a great honor, and I am not a self-made man by any stretch of the imagination. There have been countless people who have poured into me in a way that has changed my life -- not only on the field, but off. A few of those men are some of the knuckleballers that have had incredible seasons that didn't necessarily get acknowledged for their feats -- Phil Niekro, Tim Wakefield, Charlie Hough. This is a victory for all of us, not to mention, the New York Mets fan base."

The 38-year-old Dickey became the third Met to win the award. Tom Seaver received the honor three times (1969, '73, '75), and Dwight Gooden won in 1985.

The award caps an eventful year for Dickey, who climbed Mount Kilimanjaro in January, published a memoir during spring training that included details of sexual abuse he allegedly suffered as a child, tossed a franchise-record 32 2/3 consecutive scoreless innings during the first half and made his first All-Star team.

Dickey's three shutouts in 2012 were the most by a Met since David Cone's five in 1992. He led the National League in quality starts (27), strikeouts (230) and innings pitched (233 2/3) while finishing second in ERA at 2.73 to Kershaw's 2.53.

Dickey's 20-win season marked the first by a Met since Frank Viola in 1990, and the sixth in team history.

After his final start of the season, Dickey revealed he had been pitching through discomfort since April, when he tore an abdominal muscle during a cool night in Philadelphia. He underwent surgery on Oct. 18 to fix the injury, which is not expected to affect him in 2013.

Dickey joined the Mets prior to the 2010 season yet did not make the team out of spring training. But he was promoted to the majors in May of that season and has not looked back, posting a 2.95 ERA in 94 career games with the Mets.

"I was the first player cut out of camp (in 2010)," Dickey told MLB Network. "But I was able to get a shot with those guys and I was able to seize an opportunity.

"I have a place in my heart that's very sentimental to the New York Mets because they gave me a real opportunity. They believed in me when not a lot of other teams did. I'm thankful they gave me the platform to jump off of and really explore my craft in a way that I've been able to become who I've been able to become as a pitcher."


Days after the World Series, the Mets exercised a $5 million team option on Dickey for next season. General manager Sandy Alderson is attempting to sign Dickey to an extension, although Alderson has not ruled out trading Dickey if the sides cannot agree.


http://espn.go.com/espn/print?id=8633034&type=story

ZippyTheChimp
November 15th, 2012, 05:03 PM
Makes it more likely that either Dickey or Wright are traded.

I doubt the Mets would have the balls to trade both of them.

eddhead
November 16th, 2012, 08:40 AM
If they are going to trade one, I think it would be Dickey who is 38 and who never has come close to having the type of year he had last year. My understanding is that the Mets are currently negoitating with Wrigth on a 6-7 year deal.

chickpea
November 19th, 2012, 11:42 AM
Hello Everybody!
First of all let's hope Wright and Dickey will stay in Queens (even though this would be the time to trade Dickey; I still hope that loyality means sth. for both, team management and players and the Mets won't lose two of their rarely spread personalities that give the club some kind of identity) and that better times are going to come soon.
But now my question. I am from Germany and will be over in NYC again end of March untill beginning of April 2013. So this could be the first time for me to see a Mets season opener live. I was looking for tickets today and realised that they charge more than four time as much for the Padres opener than for the regular games two days later. Now my question to all of you: Is it worth it? What is unsually going on at CitiField for/during the season opener?? Please answer me soon because I do not know how long tickets might be available.
Thanks a lot!!

ZippyTheChimp
November 19th, 2012, 04:16 PM
From my point of view, there are a few things about opening day that make it different:

1. Well, it's the first game. Nothing has happened yet to tarnish the season. The stands will be full, and any sports event is better in a packed house.

2. Since in this case, it's not only the home opener but also the first game, you'll see the #1 pitchers.

3. It's always a day game. That could be an issue in early April. According to the schedule, game 2 is at night, but game 3 is a day game.

4. It's an event for me; we've had this Yankee diaspora thing going for decades. Old friends make the trip from far and wide.

Other than that, it's no big deal; and if money is an issue, go to game 2. You'll probably get better seats for less money, and still see front-end pitchers.

GordonGecko
November 20th, 2012, 09:59 AM
I was looking for tickets today and realised that they charge more than four time as much for the Padres opener than for the regular games two days later. Now my question to all of you: Is it worth it? What is unsually going on at CitiField for/during the season opener??
There is not much extra that happens during the home opener, it's just a traditional game that announces that the beginning of summer is almost in sight. It is usually sold out and in high demand, whereas every other game in April has almost zero demand. If you just want to watch a Mets game, you should save your money and go Wednesday instead of Monday. Although, the atmosphere during the opener will be quite festive whereas the next game will be completely dead

The Mets use a hybrid type of pricing. They have (A) tier pricing for ticket plans and season tickets where games are ranked before the season on popularity from a scale of 1 to 4 (marquee, premium, classic & value). Face values for "marquee" games (home opener & subway series) are about 4 times as much as "value" games. For individual sales, they (B) use dynamic pricing that fluctuates with prices on the secondary markets. So for example, if a value game against the pirates was originally priced at $15 and all of a sudden Justin Verlander was traded to the Mets and he was scheduled to pitch, the Mets could be charging $60 for that same ticket.

The SF Giants were one of first to use dynamic pricing and now the Knicks and NY Rangers do the same. For example, my $45 Knicks tickets are being sold by the team on ticketmaster for $170.

chickpea
November 28th, 2012, 01:57 PM
Thanks for your help!! I don't really like the idea of dynamic pricing neither. It only works in one direction - ticket prices will never get any cheaper but only more expensive with this system. Anyway, we decided to get tickets for the second game against the Padres now and thought that we might indulge ourselves with superb seats for the price we would have paid for the season opener. And I still hope that Dickey will stay where he belongs - and that we're going to see either him or Johan Santana pitiching the second game of the season if nobody gets injured. And with a 12-2 win in the opener it still could hopefully be a 25.000+ crowd for game two. I can't wait to be back in NYC and see our Mets again!!!!

mariab
November 30th, 2012, 12:42 PM
Report: Wright agrees to $138M deal


http://static.foxsports.com/content/fscom/img/2012/05/06/050512-MLB-Wright-PI-AM_20120506022039988_660_320.JPG
David Wright batted .306 with 21 homers and 93 RBI last season.


Updated Nov 30, 2012 11:06 AM ET

NEW YORK (AP)

David Wright (http://wirednewyork.com/mlb/player/david-wright/211677?q=david-wright) and the New York Mets (http://wirednewyork.com/mlb/team/new-york-mets/71607?q=new-york-mets) agreed Friday to a $138 million, eight-year contract, a person familiar with the negotiations told The Associated Press.
The deal, the richest in franchise history, replaces Wright's $16 million salary for next season and includes $122 million in new money, the person said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the agreement was not yet final.
A homegrown fan favorite and the face of the franchise, Wright is the club's career leader in several major offensive categories including hits, RBIs, runs and walks.
Wright is to attend teammate Daniel Murphy (http://wirednewyork.com/mlb/player/daniel-murphy/561601?q=daniel-murphy)'s wedding in Jacksonville, Fla., this weekend, then travel to New York for a physical. The contract with the All-Star third baseman probably will be announced at next week's winter meetings in Nashville, Tenn., the person said.
The agreement, negotiated by agents Sam and Seth Levinson, was first reported by WFAN radio.
Wright, who turns 30 on Dec. 20, would have been eligible for free agency after next season. The Mets also are trying to reach a deal with Cy Young Award winner R.A. Dickey (http://wirednewyork.com/mlb/player/r.a.-dickey/85349?q=r.a.-dickey), who can become a free agent after next season.
Mets general manager Sandy Alderson had said that signing Wright and Dickey to multiyear deals were his top priorities this offseason. Alderson, however, would not rule out trading Dickey in a deal that could upgrade the roster.

Wright batted .306 with 21 homers and 93 RBIs last season as the Mets went 74-88 and finished fourth in the NL East for the fourth straight year. He also had a .391 on-base percentage to go with 41 doubles and 15 stolen bases.
Teammate Johan Santana (http://wirednewyork.com/mlb/player/johan-santana/85229?q=johan-santana) signed a $137.5 million, six-year contract with New York after being acquired in a trade from Minnesota before the 2008 season.
Selected with the 38th overall pick in the 2001 amateur draft, Wright made his Mets debut in July 2004 and quickly secured the job at third base - a trouble spot for the team throughout its colorful history.
Wright has made six All-Star teams and won two Gold Gloves, compiling a .301 career average with 204 home runs and 818 RBI in 8 1/2 major league seasons. He has often expressed his desire to play his entire career with the Mets.
Wright, who had a base salary of $15.25 million this year, appears poised to sign a contract comparable in total compensation to the big deals handed out this year to star third basemen Evan Longoria and Ryan Zimmerman.


Longoria agreed Monday to a $136.6 million, 10-year contract with Tampa Bay that adds six guaranteed seasons and $100 million to his previous deal. It includes a team option for 2023 that could make the agreement worth $144.6 million over 11 years.
Zimmerman, a friend of Wright's since they grew up playing youth baseball together in Virginia, signed a deal with Washington in February that guaranteed him $126 million for eight seasons, with a club option for 2020.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/David-Wright-New-York-Mets-contract-112912

eddhead
November 30th, 2012, 04:25 PM
IMO this was a must sign for the Mets who are having enough credibility issues as it is. I doubt they'll bring back Dickey though.

mariab
November 30th, 2012, 07:33 PM
They'd be crazy not to.

mariab
December 6th, 2012, 04:57 PM
I don't understand, still talking of trading Dickey. Why don't they pay him what he wants? It can't be about saving money, they just spent a boatload on Wright. So spend a little more and get one of the best pitchers you've had in forever. I can't believe they haven't locked him up & thrown away the key.

GordonGecko
December 6th, 2012, 05:27 PM
Dickey is under contract for 2013 at reasonable cost. He's an ace type player that's very valuable in the postseason. Mets unfortunately have no postseason aspirations so in that sense he's wasted talent.

eddhead
December 7th, 2012, 11:00 AM
I don't understand, still talking of trading Dickey. Why don't they pay him what he wants? It can't be about saving money, they just spent a boatload on Wright. So spend a little more and get one of the best pitchers you've had in forever. I can't believe they haven't locked him up & thrown away the key.

The Mets are still reeling from the Madoff debacle and remain in financial trouble. They have sold off small minority pieces to high-worth individuals, but that really is just about keeping them afloat. To make the kind of splash they need, they need to sell the team.

I honestly do not think they have the cash flow they need to pay Dickey. They'll need to rip up his 2013 contract and sign him through 2014 at a total cost of about $20-$25MM. Hard to justify that for as 38 yr old when you're under water fiscally. I think he will be gone sometime this season, if not earlier.

ZippyTheChimp
December 7th, 2012, 11:51 AM
I don't think the Mets are in such financial state that the team must be sold. Initially, the biggest problem concerning the Madoff situation was the uncertainty of how bad it was. Estimates (more lime speculation) ranged from almost nothing to a billion dollars; you can't plan with that hanging over your head. Earlier this year, the Mets settled with the Madoff bankruptcy trustee for $160 - $170 million.

The Forbes ranking of MLB team valuations placed the Mets in #6, and that was before the final Madoff settlement. http://www.forbes.com/teams/new-york-mets/.

The Mets have debt problems, but it's an elite franchise. Tremendous market and a successful TV network. The problem with existing in that environment is that they have to become successful; they can't be the KC Royals.

Wright was signed because he will be 30 years old next year. Dickey may not be signed because he is 38. The Mets have to decide if they can make a serious championship run in the next few years. If not, then Dickey doesn't do them much good. He'll fill the stands on the days he pitches, but the overall attendance will remain low.

The Mets desperately need outfielders who can hit. Dickey is at his highest value right now; his low salary for 2013 makes him very valuable to a team looking to over the top in 2013. There are several teams in need of a pitcher that have AAA prospects ready to move up.

eddhead
December 7th, 2012, 12:29 PM
I do agree that the case was settle favorably for the Mets, and that they remain valuable as a market commodity. IMO, part of this is a mindset. You don't get sued for $1BN and risk having your life wrecked, without having your persective changed; even if you win the suit, or it is settled in your favor. I beleive that if your Fred Wilpon, who is not really from old money, and you've gone through that, you become a lot more careful about what and who you invest in going forward.

But the real issue with the Mets is cash flow. I believe they are carrying close to $1BN in debt (including SNY) and to my knowledge they have not been able to restructure that debt on terms that would allow them to free up a hunk of cash. In additon, the team has lost $100MM over the past two years. My sense is the team, and Wilpon, are both in worse financial shape than what they let on.

The Mets had to sign Wright - besides being 30 and in his prime, he is the face of the franchise. Losing Wright would have been a PR disaster for the team. I could be wrong, but I just don't think they just don't have the cash flow to suppport the $20-25MM it would take to sign a 38 pitcher thru 2014.

ZippyTheChimp
December 10th, 2012, 09:57 AM
I thought that the Mets were a longshot in a trade that could have sent R A Dickey to the Royals for Wil Myers, a top prospect. The Rays seemed to have the inside track; it was just a matter of getting a deal done, which they did.


Shields to KC, Myers to Rays in blockbuster

The Rays and Royals announced the completion of a blockbuster deal in which Tampa Bay sent right-handers James Shields and Wade Davis along with a player to be named in exchange for three of Kansas City's top prospects -- outfielder Wil Myers, right-hander Jake Odorizzi, left-hander Mike Montgomery and infielder Patrick Leonard.

Shields, who turns 31 this month, went 15-10 with a 3.52 ERA and 223 strikeouts in 227 2/3 innings in 2012. In seven big league seasons with the Rays, he's 87-73 with a 3.89 ERA, 7.7 strikeouts per nine innings and 2.1 walks per nine innings. In six full years in the majors, he's averaged more than 220 innings per campaign. He is under team control on options in both 2013 and 2014. If the 2014 option is exercised, he would earn $21 million over the two seasons.

Davis spent all of 2012 in the Rays bullpen, going 3-0 with a 2.43 ERA and 11.1 strikeouts per nine innings. The Royals will move him back to the rotation, where he pitched from 2009-11, going 25-22 with a 4.22 ERA and 5.9 strikeouts per nine. He's under team control for two more years with three additional option seasons running through 2017; he could earn $32.6 million during the next five seasons if all of the options are exercised.

Myers, who turns 22 on Monday, was named Baseball America Minor League Player of the Year in 2012, a year in which he hit .314/.387/.600/.987 with 37 homers in Double-A and Triple-A.

Odorizzi, 22, likewise was a standout in the Royals system in Double-A and Triple-A, going 15-5 with a 3.03 ERA and 8.4 strikeouts per nine innings. He also made his big league debut, going 0-1 with a 4.91 ERA in two starts.

Montgomery, who entered 2012 as Baseball America's No. 23 overall prospect in the minors, endured a brutal 2012 season, going 5-12 with a 6.07 ERA, 6.7 strikeouts per nine and 3.8 walks per nine in Double-A and Triple-A. Still, the former supplemental first-rounder is viewed as a high-ceiling left-hander with starter's stuff.

Leonard, a 2011 fifth-rounder, hit .251/.340/.494/.833 with 14 homers in 62 Rookie Level games in 2012, an impressive power show for a 19-year-old third baseman in a short-season league.

The Red Sox and Royals had talked about the possibility of a deal that would have sent Myers and others to Boston for Jon Lester and others earlier in the offseason. However, it was the AL East-rival Rays who found common ground with Kansas City on a pitching-for-prospects blockbuster.

Copyright © 2012 Entercom Boston, LLC


Myers would have been a good fit in RF.

eddhead
December 10th, 2012, 11:00 AM
Wow. I'll bet Shields, who is a quality pitcher is thrilled to be going to the Royals. Getting Shields and Myers as part of this deal would be great for a contender, but I can't imagine why KC did it. You know they're not interested in competing for a pennant. Al they did was raise their salary level.

eddhead
December 11th, 2012, 05:10 PM
And so it begins ....

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http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/11/dickey-disappointed-contract-issue-has-not-been-resolved/?ref=sports&pagewanted=print

December 11, 2012, 1:07 pm

Dickey Expresses Dismay Over Contract Standoff

By ANDREW KEH (http://wirednewyork.com/author/andrew-keh/)

R.A. Dickey acknowledged Tuesday that the protracted negotiations with the Mets for a possible contract extension were weighing heavily on him at times.

Dickey said that he was disappointed and surprised the situation was not yet resolved and that the two sides remained significantly divided on what would be a fair contract. And he predicted that he would most likely be with another team in 2014 if he was forced to play the 2013 season for the Mets on his current deal, which has one year remaining.

"Things are emotional for me," Dickey said. "When people say, 'It's business, it's not personal,' that just means it's not personal for them. It can be personal for me."

He continued: "I'm hoping that it's going to end up in a good place. But you can't help but think in the back of your mind it may not. And that's sad."

The Mets on Tuesday treated 100 children from a pair of Far Rockaway schools affected by Hurricane Sandy - P.S. 43 and Scholars' Academy - to a holiday party and lunch at Citi Field. Dickey was on hand along with first baseman Ike Davis and the former closer John Franco to greet the students and distribute presents.

But the talk revolved around Dickey's unresolved status. He and Sandy Alderson, the general manager of the Mets, acknowledged that there had not been significant progress toward a compromise on a new deal for Dickey, the 38-year-old knuckleballer and Cy Young Award winner. The Mets have also explored the notion of trading Dickey for prospects who could fill holes in the team's lineup, and Alderson noted that the market for starting pitchers had narrowed in recent days with the signing of Zack Greinke by the Los Angeles Dodgers to a six-year deal worth nearly $150 million.

Still, Alderson described the situation with Dickey as "more or less status quo."

Dickey said he thought the salary he and his agent were seeking in a two-year contract extension was reasonable, although clearly the Mets do not agree.

"In the context of the market, you want what you think is fair," he said. "What I feel I'm asking for - and this is just the way that it is for us - I feel like we're asking for even less than what's fair because that's how it's been for me and this place."

He added: "There is a surprise sometimes when things don't get done quickly, and you already think that you're extending the olive branch. But at the same time, they have a budget they have to adhere to, and that's part of it, too. I don't know those numbers, and I try not to take it personally."

Dickey has suggested he will take it personally if the Mets decide to let him play out his current contract during the 2013 season. Last week Jeff Wilpon, the team's chief operating officer, referred to that outcome as a bargain. Alderson has said it will be the least optimal of three possible outcomes, but acknowledged it was a possibility.

Dickey said he would not negotiate a new contract once the 2013 season began, and hoped the situation would not remain unresolved to April.
"I feel like that would be unfortunate because it probably would mean I'm not going to be back, and that would be sad," Dickey said. "I'm so close to free agency at that point, and I don't want any distractions, and I want to be the best product I can be for the Mets, and trying to sift through that stuff would take me away from that."

mariab
December 11th, 2012, 08:13 PM
On the news it was reported he was holding out for six more million over two years.

ZippyTheChimp
December 12th, 2012, 10:32 AM
I think the "standoff" is that the Mets are searching for a trade.

GordonGecko
December 12th, 2012, 10:50 AM
On the news it was reported he was holding out for six more million over two years.

Wow talk about misleading. Dickey wants an extension, and he's coming off a Cy Young award. The extra 2 years are probably worth around $35M on the open market but Dickey wanted to be a good guy and stay with the Mets so his agent told the team he would accept $26M. What do the Mets do but hit him across the knees with a $20M lowball offer. He is as good as gone from the Mets no later than July

eddhead
December 12th, 2012, 02:45 PM
I agree with Zippy. They are looking to trade him. From the onset I felt the Mets would sign Wright - not necessarily because they want to but because they had to - and ditch Dickey.

Wright was a strategic signing. He is the face of the Mets and will be associated with the franchise until well after his career is over. Dickey does not have that kind of Met's identity. I could be wrong, but I think they will either trade him now, or trade him to a contender once June/July rolls around. If the Mets happen to be in the hunt durning the summer they may make him a better offer than, but I doubt it.

Either way, I do not see them signing him before the season starts

hbcat
December 15th, 2012, 06:53 AM
Multiple reports today say that the Blue Jays have the best chance of landing Dickey in a trade.

E.g., this from mlb.com: Blue Jays reportedly front-runners for Dickey (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121214&content_id=40657728&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb)
d'Arnaud, Gose rumored in potential swap for Mets' Cy Young winner (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121214&content_id=40657728&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb)


I can't believe the Mets are going to let him go after than fantastic year, and in spite of his modest contract demands. Guess you have to make bad decisions when you're up against a massive debt problem.

ZippyTheChimp
December 16th, 2012, 11:17 PM
I never believed it was about the money, but about where the team was going in the next few years.

December 16, 2012


Mets Agree to Trade Dickey, a Cy Young Winner, to Toronto

By ANDREW KEH

After making his Mets debut in May of the 2010 season, R. A. Dickey came to represent a once-every-five-days antidote for fans sickened by losing records, late-season collapses, financial difficulties, unrelenting bad luck and prolonged bad play. A 38-year-old knuckleballer, he won 20 games and the National League Cy Young Award last season.

But his days with the Mets appear all but over.

The Mets took a significant step toward resolving a protracted contract standoff with Dickey on Sunday, agreeing in principle to trade him to the Toronto Blue Jays, according to a person with knowledge of the situation. The deal is contingent on Dickey and the Blue Jays’ agreeing on a contract extension during a 72-hour negotiating window, and the sides were involved in preliminary talks Sunday.

It has been widely reported that the centerpiece of the return package would be the highly regarded young catcher Travis d’Arnaud, and it also appeared the Mets would receive a top pitching prospect, Noah Syndergaard; a veteran catcher, John Buck; and another minor league prospect. The Mets would send to Toronto catcher Josh Thole and a prospect of their own.

During long and sometimes awkward negotiations with the Mets, Dickey, who has one more year left on his current contract, asked for two additional years for about $26 million. The Blue Jays, therefore, will have a good sense of his demands, though the higher tax rates in Toronto may change them somewhat.

The trade is sure to draw objections from some Mets fans.

On its surface, it allows the Mets to address a major weakness behind the plate. Thole, 26, paired well with Dickey but hit just .234 with a home run in 321 at-bats last season. The 23-year-old d’Arnaud, who played last season at Class AAA, will represent a major power upgrade if he plays up to his projections. And Syndergaard, 20, a tall, hard-throwing right-hander picked 38th over all by the Blue Jays in the 2010 draft, would enrich the Mets’ stock of promising young arms.

But for these unproven talents, the Mets will pay a hefty price.

Dickey compiled a league-high 2332/3 innings pitched and 230 strikeouts last season, finishing second in the league with an earned run average of 2.73. He was the most compelling figure last season on a lackluster team, and his performance was more remarkable considering the Mets went 74-88, finishing in fourth place for the fourth straight season.

His was an enchanting story: that of a late bloomer who saved his career by learning the knuckleball, the game’s most unorthodox pitch, before attaining mastery over it to devastating effect. And his storybook season found a happy conclusion in November, when he became the first knuckleballer to win the Cy Young Award.

Now he is about to become the fourth pitcher to be traded immediately after winning the award.

The trade comes after protracted negotiations this off-season, which began with the Mets saying that finding contract extensions for third baseman David Wright and Dickey, their two stars, would be their top priority. Wright’s situation was settled quickly enough — he negotiated an eight-year contract worth $138 million — but Dickey’s dragged on.

Dickey was signed for 2013 at a bargain salary of $5 million and was seeking a two-year extension. The Mets countered his request for $26 million with an offer that they eventually raised to about $20 million.

Both sides characterized the negotiations as congenial, but the situation grew somewhat tense as progress stalled. In effect, the Mets were operating on two tracks: trying to sign Dickey to a contract for less than what other starters were getting on the open market while also exploring trade options for him.

The clearest sign of discord in the Dickey negotiations came during the Mets’ annual holiday event last week, when Dickey, asked by reporters about the talks, expressed clear disappointment over the absence of a deal.

“I feel like we’re asking for even less than what’s fair,” Dickey said at Citi Field that day. “There is a surprise sometimes when things don’t get done quickly, and you already think that you’re extending the olive branch.”

All along, General Manager Sandy Alderson and his top assistants seemed intrigued by the idea of trading Dickey; his value would never be higher, and the Mets have so many holes to fill. At the same time, the team does not yet have the financial flexibility to chase free agents.

Alderson’s decision to make this deal will engender a mixed reaction from Mets fans, who embraced Dickey not only as one of the lone bright spots on an underperforming team, but also as a singular character among professional athletes.

He is thoughtful and introspective. He climbed Mount Kilimanjaro last winter to raise money for charity and blogged about his adventure for The New York Times. Last season, he emerged on an even larger stage. He published a memoir — one that detailed his professional and personal struggles — that made it to The Times’s best-seller list, and he was featured as a subject in a well-received documentary on knuckleball pitchers. More recently, he made national television appearances with David Letterman and Jon Stewart.

The last pitcher to be traded immediately after winning the Cy Young Award was Roger Clemens, who was dealt to the Yankees from the Blue Jays before the 1999 season. The year before that, Pedro Martinez was traded to the Boston Red Sox from the Montreal Expos. And before the strike-shortened 1995 season, David Cone was traded to the Blue Jays from the Kansas City Royals. Three other pitchers — Catfish Hunter, Mark Davis and Greg Maddux — signed as free agents with new clubs after winning the award.

Dickey, who is 39-28 with a 2.95 E.R.A. in 94 appearances with the Mets, is set to become the latest winner to move on, whether willingly or reluctantly.

© 2012 The New York Times Company

eddhead
December 16th, 2012, 11:35 PM
I think it was both. It looks like the Mets got some value back for Dickey, but I really do not think the Mets had the desire or financial capacity to spend $26MM for a 38 year old pitcher anyway

ZippyTheChimp
December 17th, 2012, 01:41 PM
The Mets didn't repeat the mistake they made with Jose Reyes, who should have been traded for value.

R A Dickey is at his height in value, both for contract negotiations, and as trade value. Ironically, the best time to move from both a player and team standpoint, is after a major achievement. Happens in all sports. Mario Manningham made a great catch to help the Giants win the Super Bowl, and became too expensive for them to keep.

Reportedly, Dickey is getting the two-year extension from the Jays that the Mets refused.

Mets get catcher prospect, Travis d'Arnaud (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=darnau001tra), and pitcher Noah Syndergaard (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=synder001noa).

Teams will also swap catchers Josh Thole (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/tholejo01.shtml) and John Buck
(http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/buckjo01.shtml).

Other minor league players involved, and Jays will send cash to Mets to offset Buck's $6 million contract.

eddhead
December 17th, 2012, 02:11 PM
I do agree that Dickey is probably at his highest market value and that the probability of his repeating his 2011 success is low. That certainly is a consideration. On the other hand, those consideratons were clearly factored into his final pricing. While $26MM for two-years is a lot of money, it is less money and less years than say a younger player with a more consistent history (like a Verlander) would command. A $26MM two-year gamble on Dickey is not over the top risky.

Most experts grade d'Arnaud as the number 1 catching prospect, and Syndergaard is supposed to have a very live arm, so the Mets appear to have done well, substantiating your point that Dickey is probably at his peak in terms of trade value. In fact it almost seems too good for the Mets, which kind of make me wonder.

ZippyTheChimp
December 17th, 2012, 03:51 PM
I think you're misunderstanding my point about Dickey's value from the Mets perspective. It's not that the money is too much; it's how the value is viewed.

If the Mets were looking to re-sign a popular player and have him fill the stands every fifth day for a couple of years, but go nowhere toward competing in the postseason, then they should have paid him the money. Of course, this assumes he would perform at somewhat the same level.

The Mets chose to look further down the road.

Although the Mets lost out on a deal with the Royals, once the trade of Shields and the signing of Greinke by the Dodgers were complete, Dickey's value increased. I'm sure the Jays were in the running for Shields and Greinke, so they probably were more willing to give up prospects for Dickey.

eddhead
December 17th, 2012, 04:48 PM
You're right, I was thinking more from the perspective of Dickey's market value as a commodity. In a previous post, I mentioned that it made sense for a contender to acquire Dickey now, or in the middle of summer in order to help them compete. To your point, conversely, it makes sense that if the Mets do not view themselves as contenders on 2013, and think it is likely that they made the decision to trade him rather than fill the seats every 5th day. I can't argue with their logic. For me, the key consideration is do they think they will contend in 2013. Clearly the answer is no.

I do think the Mets did well in this trade, but as is the case whenever prospects are involved, only time will tell.

GordonGecko
December 17th, 2012, 04:56 PM
This isn't a done deal yet, If I'm R.A. I am pissed and I'm going to demand full market value for my contract extension. The Blue Jays may not be willing to offer $15M/year in which case the Mets will have to throw in some cash, take less in return, or see the deal killed

eddhead
December 17th, 2012, 05:11 PM
The other consideration is the tax rate in Canada which also might incentivize Dickey to take a tougher stance. He is holding a lot of cards right now. The Mets need to either sign him or trade him or they risk losing everything.

You could argue as Zippy has, that he is at his market peak now.

eddhead
January 30th, 2013, 02:45 PM
How can you not root for R A Dickey?


I want to give my children a heart for humanity. The only way to really do that is to get them outside of the bubble that they live in, and expose them in very measured ways to what real life is to a lot of people. They've responded beautifully

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Wednesday, January 30, 2013
R.A. Dickey helps fight India sex trade
Associated Press

R.A. Dickey (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/4695/ra-dickey) said the pictures and literature couldn't have prepared him for the young boy who approached him last week on one of the squalid streets of Mumbai's red-light district.

The boy was maybe 3 years old, 4 at best. He had no pants on. His body was covered with open sores.

"He was playing amongst the open sewage and filth with rats as big as dogs. Unsupervised," the Toronto Blue Jays (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/tor/toronto-blue-jays)' new knuckleballer told The Canadian Press on a conference call Tuesday from India's most populous city. "You see these images and pictures that just don't seem like they should exist. And you hope that it's the only one ... but that's what's representative, these lives that just don't have a voice."


“ http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/4695.png&w=65&h=90&scale=crop&background=0xcccccc&transparent=false I want to give my children a heart for humanity. The only way to really do that is to get them outside of the bubble that they live in, and expose them in very measured ways to what real life is to a lot of people. They've responded beautifully.
” -- R.A. Dickey, on taking his 2 daughters with him to Mumbai
The 38-year-old is in Mumbai to work with Bombay Teen Challenge, a Christian organization that has rescued women and children from sex trafficking for the past 23 years.

It's a cause that Dickey says speaks to his own narrative. He wrote about being sexually abused as a child in his autobiography "Wherever I Wind Up: My Quest for Truth, Authenticity and the Perfect Knuckleball."

"It's authentic to me because of my past experience, also I have a sentimentality to it because the girls that I've seen firsthand in the streets, these 19-, 20-, 21-year-old girls. You have to look beyond that and see at one point they were daughters themselves, and having two daughters ... that just for me was so compelling."

He made the trip with his daughters, 11-year-old Mary Gabriel and 9-year-old Lila.

"I want to give my children a heart for humanity," Dickey said. "The only way to really do that is to get them outside of the bubble that they live in, and expose them in very measured ways to what real life is to a lot of people. They've responded beautifully."

The 2012 NL Cy Young winner said it's been "a roller-coaster" visit, from the visceral red-light images of women in doorways and the cages where they keep them when they're first trafficked.

But he also saw hope.

Dickey and his daughters stayed at Ashagram, a rehabilitation campus outside Mumbai that's home to 300 women and children. They were the "most hopeful days" of the trip. They played cricket and sang songs with the children, many of whom are HIV-positive.

"Those are the miracles, the 300 lives in Ashagram, those are 300 living miracles," Dickey said. "Sure, (my daughters) heard about the wickedness and the darkness, but they got to actually see the redemption, so their response has been really positive. This is a seminal trip for them."

Dickey, who speaks openly with his daughters about his own sexual abuse, helped celebrate the opening of a clinic in the midst of Mumbai's red-light district. He helped pay for the clinic, raising over $100,000 by climbing Mount Kilimanjaro last winter.

"The facility is like a beacon of light in the middle of a swamp," he said.

BTC's Thomason Varghese said the organization was blessed by Dickey's presence.

"But we think we've been even more blessed by his daughters," Varghese said. "Just to see innocent girls loving our girls and playing with them with no inhibitions, it's just been a real joy for us to see and experience. There are friendships that have come through this despite how different their backgrounds are.

"Today the girls were in our feeding truck serving food to those who are coming from the street; just watching that was a sight to see."

While estimates of sex trafficking in India vary, most studies put the number at more than a million children involved in the country's sex trade.
Dickey was asked how can one measure success in the face of such grim statistics.

"If the organization rescues one human life from that hell, then it's done its job in some way," Dickey said. "You're talking over the last 23 years over 1,000 lives being rescued, given a second chance to have a life, rescuing children, people who were left for dead on doorsteps of these brothels.

"The women who had been trafficked into prostitution, dying in hospitals with their children by their bed, here's the Bombay Teen Challenge with a relationship in place to be able to take in and care for these children.

"How do you measure success? I think it's one life at a time."

http://espn.go.com/espn/print?id=8896558&type=story

TREPYE
March 28th, 2013, 09:32 PM
UN-EFFING-BELIVABLE.....



Surgery likely for Johan Santana
By Adam Rubin (http://search.espn.go.com/rubin-adam) | ESPNNewYork.com

Two-time Cy Young Award winner Johan Santana (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/4280/johan-santana) has suffered a probable re-tear of the anterior capsule in his left shoulder and a repeat surgery is a "strong possibility," New York Mets (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/nym/new-york-mets) general manager Sandy Alderson said Thursday.

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Santana

Santana needed 19 months to throw a major league pitch after the first procedure, which had been performed on fewer than a dozen pitchers in major league history.

Now, he likely would need to overcome the surgery twice, this time at age 34, in order to return to pitching.

Santana is in the final guaranteed season of a six-year, $137.5 million deal with the club. There is $31 million still owed on the contract, all of which is not insured.

Santana was examined in New York on Wednesday by team doctor David Altchek, who performed the original Sept. 2, 2010, procedure. An MRI revealed a probable re-tear. At the request of Santana's agent, Altchek consulted with renowned doctors James Andrews and Lewis Yocum. Both confirmed the probable diagnosis of the re-tear of the anterior capsule, Alderson said.

Santana will remain in New York this weekend to deliberate before committing to surgery.

"If this diagnosis proves to be correct, I think in all likelihood Johan will be lost to the Mets for the season," Alderson said.

Alderson said it's unclear when the reinjury occurred. Santana twice during spring training had been backed off mound work because of what was labeled shoulder weakness.

Santana had a strong first half of last season after returning from the surgery, highlighted by tossing the first no-hitter in franchise history, on June 1 against the St. Louis Cardinals (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/stl/st-louis-cardinals).

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Manager Terry Collins agonized in allowing Santana to throw a career-high 134 pitches in the no-hitter but deemed the historical moment worthwhile for the southpaw to try to complete.

It was straight downhill for Santana, however, after that performance. He had an 8.27 ERA over the next 10 starts before landing on the disabled list to finish the season.

The Mets had attributed the swoon and shortened 2012 season to multiple factors: arduous rehab work the previous winter that left him worn down, an ankle injury caused when Reed Johnson (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/5452/reed-johnson) stepped on Santana's ankle during a bang-bang play while the southpaw covered first base and a lower-back injury.

The surgery to repair a torn anterior capsule had been performed previously on only a handful of pitchers, beginning with Bret Saberhagen (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/1405/bret-saberhagen) on May 28, 1996, Altchek told ESPNNewYork.com last year. The surgery on Santana left a two-inch scar at the front of his prized shoulder.

The sparse list of pitchers now also includes Chris Young (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/6073/chris-young), Mark Prior (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/4936/mark-prior), Chien-Ming Wang (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/6209/chien-ming-wang), Rich Harden (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/5588/rich-harden) and Dallas Braden (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/28749/dallas-braden).

Santana on Short List

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/4280.png&w=65&h=90&scale=crop&background=0xcccccc&transparent=false Johan Santana is looking at a possible second surgery to repair a torn anterior capsule in his shoulder. He previously had the surgery in September 2010. Fewer than a dozen pitchers in major league history have had the surgery, and none has had it twice.


Player

Date



Bret Saberhagen

May 1996



Mark Prior

June 2008



Chien-Ming Wang

July 2009



Johan Santana

Sept. 2010



Dallas Braden

May 2011



Chris Young

May 2011



Rich Harden

Feb. 2012



Dustin Moseley

April 2012



Tim Byrdak

August 2012






Because anterior capsule surgery has been performed so infrequently on pitchers, how Santana's recovery unfolds will contribute to determining the procedure's effectiveness in extending careers, Altchek had added.

The capsule is the set of ligaments that run between the ball and socket, holding them in place. The ligaments nearly completely encircle the shoulder. They span the front, bottom and back of the shoulder, but not the top.

Tearing the anterior capsule can result in the ball slipping forward in the shoulder socket during the delivery. Young actually felt discomfort in the back of his right shoulder before his May 16, 2011, surgery -- even though the tear was in the front of the capsule -- because the rear ligaments that remained intact were stretching as the ball slipped forward in his socket.

If the tear occurs on the socket side, the repair can be done through a less invasive arthroscopic procedure, as was the case with Braden, as well as former New York Yankees (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/nyy/new-york-yankees) catcher Jorge Posada (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/3341/jorge-posada). If the tear is on the ball side, the surgeon is required to make an incision and go in through the front. That was the case with both Santana and Young.

Torn anterior capsules very likely are not new injuries among pitchers. Standard MRIs often are not conducive to revealing the tears. A more sophisticated MRI usually is required, or some other sleuth work.


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March 28, 2013

Santana Is Likely to Miss Year With Shoulder TearBy KEN BELSON (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/ken_belson/index.html)PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. — Johan Santana (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/johan_santana/index.html?inline=nyt-per) will be making $25.5 million in the sixth and final year of his enormous contract with the Mets (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/baseball/majorleague/newyorkmets/index.html?inline=nyt-org). But it is highly unlikely he will throw a single pitch for the club this season, and it is unclear if he will pitch again in the major leagues.
Santana, 34, a two-time Cy Young Award winner, will probably spend the entire season rehabilitating a new tear in his pitching shoulder, which Mets General Manager Sandy Alderson disclosed in a conference call Thursday evening.
The injury, a recurrence of the same issue that led him to miss the 2011 season, adds an unhappy final chapter to his time with the Mets, who acquired him in a trade with the Minnesota Twins in the winter of 2007, signed him to a $137.5 million contract and then watched as physical ailments began to cut into his effectiveness after a strong first season in Queens.
To some degree, the announcement was not a total surprise because Santana had reported weakness in his pitching shoulder since arriving at spring training. He had not pitched in a single exhibition game and, under the best-case scenario, was not expected to pitch in the regular season until late April or late May. Now it appears he will not pitch at all.
“I’m not a doctor nor am I a medical historian,” Alderson said in the conference call, ‘’but these injuries are very difficult to recover from after one surgery, and I don’t know the history of recovering from a second.”
Alderson said Santana had flown to New York on Wednesday to consult with Dr. David Altchek, the Mets’ physician, who performed a magnetic resonance imaging exam on Santana’s left shoulder and concluded that he had retorn the anterior capsule. Alderson said that Altchek, at the request of Santana’s agent, Peter Greenberg, then reviewed the M.R.I. with two prominent sports orthopedists — Dr. James Andrews and Dr. Lewis Yocum — and that both had agreed with Altchek’s assessment.
Alderson said Santana would remain in New York over the weekend as he decides his next step. “A second surgery is a strong possibility,” Alderson said.
Santana had originally hoped to represent Venezuela in this spring’s World Baseball Classic but instead encountered a succession of negative developments once he reported to camp.
At one point, in early March, Alderson even questioned whether Santana had reported to camp in proper shape, a comment that did not sit well with Santana, who perhaps unwisely then threw a bullpen session to try to prove a point.
Alderson spent part of Thursday’s conference call trying to clarify how everything had deteriorated so quickly.
“We don’t know when it happened or how it happened,” Alderson said in reference to the probable tear, “but we do know that at some point the symptoms worsened.”
Asked if the bullpen session might have contributed to the new diagnosis, Alderson said, “We just don’t have facts.”


facts? ......:confused: WTF