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June 10th, 2004, 04:20 PM
I was out on Pier 46 last night, and suddenly some giant fireworks show started down by the Statue of Liberty. It was a spectacular show, even from that distance. Did anyone else see it, and does anyone know what they were for? I couldn't find anything on the web. Some people suggested it was in honor of Ronald Reagan, but this was at least 20 minutes long and choreographed, could not have been so spontaneous.

We need a fireworks thread since this city has the best, so let's start one here.

June 10th, 2004, 04:29 PM
A friend in tribeca told me the same. I though it was a joke. I did not hear anything on the news. I even sugested that there was some thunder happening because I saw some flashes of light in the sky last night from my apartment. But was it thunder?

June 10th, 2004, 04:47 PM

Sheryl Crow shot a "live" concert music segment last night for this year's Macy's 4th of July Spectacular. (Look for me - I'm in the audience). The fireworks were shot last night and a couple of nights ago for filiming purposes. (To get the fireworks & Statue of Liberty in one shot - remember the fireworks are actually on the East River).

Sheryl was late, played the same song four times, played a lame version of "If it makes you happy" and then abruptly thanked everyone and ended the show - possibly because it was 11PM.

She shot her scene on Fulton Landing with the Downtown skyline as the backdrop and with the Brooklyn Bridge lit brilliantly from below. Everyone was commenting on how great the city skyline was as a backdrop.

June 11th, 2004, 10:59 AM
It just goes to show you, you can't trust anything you see on t.v., especially any fireworks shows, but whatever, it was a real treat for all those who happened to be out on the waterfront. Thanks, BrooklynRider.

June 26th, 2004, 08:08 PM

June 26, 2004

New York's Fourth of July fireworks spectacular will head west this year in honor of the Statue of Liberty.

A new fireworks barge will be placed in New Jersey waters near the statue during the festivities, in celebration of the statue's reopening this summer.

In July, the Statue of Liberty's pedestal — though not the internal spiral staircase to the crown — is set to be reopened to the public after being closed for security reasons since 9/11.

This will be the first time since the millennial celebration in July 2000, when a barge was moored near the Intrepid Sea Air Space Museum, that the fireworks have been launched on the West Side.

The government of Jersey City and The Star-Ledger of Newark are helping to pay for the New Jersey barge in the display, said Elena Kazan, a spokeswoman for Macy's, which sponsors the show.

In addition to the Statue of Liberty display, fireworks will be set off from their traditional East Side locations, between 23rd and 42nd streets and by the South Street Seaport.

The show, America's largest fireworks display, is scheduled to begin at 9:20 p.m. on Sunday, July 4.

Copyright 2004 NYP Holdings, Inc.

June 28th, 2004, 10:23 AM
I could never understand why they did the fireworks over on the other side of the river like that.....

Like they were for NYers only? that there weren't going to be a bunch of people in Hoboken, JC, Edgewater, North Bergen, West NY, Weehawken, etc etc all coming to the shore to try to see them. Lets put them as far south as possible and keep the biggest buildings between them and the rest of the country....


June 28th, 2004, 11:20 AM
The fireworks last night over the Hudson off of Chelsea Piers were for gay pride day.

June 28th, 2004, 12:41 PM
I could never understand why they did the fireworks over on the other side of the river like that.....

It wasn't always so: The first Macy's 4th of July fireworks show that I saw, in the mid-1970's, was staged over the Hudson River off Riverside Park.

June 28th, 2004, 02:30 PM
There was another that was like that maybe 7 or 8 years ago I think....

Oh, and you are right about last nights. We were able to see some of them from a rooftop in Hoboken (through a gap). A lot of purpole and pink... ;)

June 30th, 2004, 10:18 PM
July 1, 2004

Bigger bang for the Fourth

Staff Writer

The nation's largest Fourth of July fireworks display has gotten larger this year.

Along with traditional spectator viewing areas for the Macy's annual fireworks display in midtown Manhattan and around the South Street Seaport, an additional show has been added in honor of the reopening of the Statue of Liberty slated for next month. This year, fireworks will also be set off simultaneously at Liberty State Park in Jersey City.

"The fact that the Statue is reopening is very symbolic and important, and we wanted to include that in our show," said Robin Hall, executive producer of Macy's Fireworks.

This year's shows, "Beneath a Summer Sky," is the 28th year Macy's has presented the festivities. The displays this year features more than 36,000 pyrotechnic shells and is the largest in the nation, according to Hall.

The celebration begins at 7:30 p.m. Sunday with a Fire Department Fireboat Water Show in midtown Manhattan. Half-an-hour later, a team of four Air Force A-10 Fighter Jets will streak overhead. At 9:30 p.m., 30-minute firework explosions will begin.

Gary Souza, of Souza Fireworks in Rialto, Calif., who has helped planned the fireworks displays for the past 23 years, said spectators should prepare for pixie dust of golden sparkles.

"The fireworks are going to dance by making different angles," he said.

The largest Fourth of July celebration in the nation doesn't happen overnight. Souza said this year's shows were a year in the making, with fireworks from 13 different nation being used. Some were made specifically for the event, he said.

In the South Street Seaport area in Lower Manhattan, traditionally a popular spot for spectators to get an up-close look at the fireworks, one restaurant is gearing up for a busy night.

"I think we'll be pretty crowded," said Lisa Kunst, manager of Bridge Cafe. The fireworks are an annual occurrence that people look forward to, she said.

Copyright © 2004, Newsday, Inc.

June 30th, 2004, 11:39 PM
I remember a few years ago an attempt at getting to the Promenade was futile; there were something like 25,000 there and the police weren't accepting anyone else. We ended up in the mob 3 blocks away.

Side note:

Half-an-hour later, a team of four Air Force A-10 Fighter Jets will streak overhead.

A-10s are amazing. Most people simply think of them as ugly brutes, but they perform spectacularly and are (were) excellent in the roles they fill(ed). I think most of them are retired now (why?).

July 4th, 2004, 12:18 AM
Fireworks in the NJ side of the Washington Bridge:
(The pictures might not look all that good but it was a nice show)


July 4th, 2004, 03:18 PM
July 4, 2004

The fireworks show

Staff Writer

Our guide to the 4th (http://www.nynewsday.com/other/special/nyc-julyfourth.story)

New York City's sky will turn red, white and blue tonight, along with a myriad of other colors, as thousands of pyrotechnic shells are fired to celebrate the United States' birthday.

The 30-minute fireworks show in the East and Hudson rivers starts at 9:20. But the party begins at 7:30, when Fire Department boats will spray arcs of water into the air that will cascade for 15 minutes before turning red and blue. The boats will be on the East River between 23rd and 42nd streets.

After the waterworks, four Air Force A-10 fighter jets will celebrate with military maneuvers over the East River.

This year, the fireworks show will include more than the traditional red, blue and white, as it will also feature pastels, fuchsia, lemon, silver and emerald green lights fired from the East River at midtown and the South Street Seaport, and from a barge near Liberty State Park in Jersey City on the Hudson.

From six barges on the East and Hudson rivers, shells will be fired to make geometric shapes and movements not seen in previous celebrations. Clown faces, butterflies, bees, kaleidoscopes and waterfalls will reach heights of more than 1,200 feet and will dance to the rhythm of music recorded by the United States Air Force Band of Mid-America.

The weather promises to cooperate. The National Weather Service is predicting a sunny day with highs in the mid-80s. The night is expected to be partly cloudy with lows in the 70s.

For those who prefer to celebrate from their living room, the show will be broadcast on NBC starting at 9 p.m.

Copyright © 2004, Newsday, Inc.

July 4th, 2004, 11:49 PM
New York Times
July 5, 2004

A Brilliant Sky, and Muted Security


Slide Show: Independence Day (http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2004/07/04/national/20040705_FOURTH_SLIDESHOW_index.html)

Macy's annual fireworks extravaganza lit up New York Harbor and the East River on Sunday night. This is a view of the harbor from Battery Park.

They paraded up Main Street in the old patriot towns, drumming the cadence and flying the colors. They thronged beaches, baseball stands and quiet parks. They barbecued in backyards, strolled down country lanes and gathered on village greens to hear the Declaration of Independence read once more.

America - a hundred Americas - found expression yesterday across the New York metropolitan area on a soft and sunny Fourth of July filled with ceremony, celebration, security and old-fashioned fun. Bikers, joggers, picnickers and sunbathers were out in force, and there were concerts, music festivals, walking tours and countless gatherings of families and friends.

And in the evening, as the last light retreated in a rust-gold atomic sunset and darkness spread over the glittering amethyst city, tens of thousands lined New York Harbor and the East River for the finale of the day's salute to the nation's 228th birthday, Macy's annual fireworks extravaganza, a thundering cannonading that painted the galactic night with dazzling chrysanthemums of color.

Security across the region was tight but relatively unobtrusive. There were no specific threats, but federal and local officials had cited intelligence reports suggesting that terrorists were determined to strike targets in America this summer or fall, and they cautioned vigilance during the Independence Day weekend, which extends officially through today.

But it was hard to conjure up dangers amid the gentle holiday mood yesterday. The afternoon was as comfortable as an old sneaker. A golden sun that weaved in and out of patchy clouds kept temperatures in the low 80's, and rapturous breezes caught the flags and pennants, cooled the city greenswards and sent sailboats and whitecaps rolling over the purple canvas of New York Harbor.

American flags were everywhere: on lawns, seafronts, T-shirts, hats, even fingernails. And American diversity was equally visible. Spread over the green fields of Flushing Meadows- Corona Park in Queens were families native to India, Bangladesh, Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic, Ecuador and other lands. There were Hasidic Jews, Sikhs and families of other religious and ethnic backgrounds. Nearly all had set up barbeques and picnics in the American tradition.

Haiden Victor, 47, of Brooklyn, was there with his large family, including a 3-year-old daughter, Julia, her hair done up in red, white and blue accessories, who played peekaboo through his legs; and a niece visiting from Puerto Rico. "We are enjoying what most people cannot enjoy," Mr. Victor said. "We can celebrate, and most people can't do that. They're being bombed or bombing someone."

In Lower Manhattan, the cornerstone of the 1,776-foot Freedom Tower was laid and the rebuilding of the World Trade Center site officially begun with speeches honoring those who died in the terrorist attacks of 9/11 and hailing the resiliency of the American spirit.

On Liberty Island out in the harbor, Brittany Mascolo, 15, an R.O.T.C. cadet at her high school in San Antonio, gazed with obvious reverence at the Statue of Liberty, which opened Saturday for the first time since the terrorist attacks. "It is so cool to be here and see the symbol of freedom," she gushed. She said she hoped to become a fighter pilot one day, and noted that several relatives and friends were serving with American forces in Iraq.

Huge crowds flocked to the beaches of Long Island, New Jersey and Connecticut, lugging the props of summer: beach chairs, straw hats, sun umbrellas, blankets, sunblock lotions and baskets of food.

At Belmar, on the Jersey Shore, Amy Campbell, of Palmyra, N.J., was sunbathing with five family members when she received word by cellphone that a nephew serving with the Air National Guard in Qatar had just returned home safely. The family broke into cheers. "There is no way to describe how happy we are right now," Ms. Campbell said.

Down the beach, on a blanket, Gina Vetrano, of Brick Township, N.J., was tanning and catching up on her fashion and cooking magazines. "This is the only place you sit and do nothing and not feel guilty about it," she said. "If you are at home you feel like you have to be doing something."

At Coney Island, Takeru Kobayashi, 25, a rail-thin 132-pounder from Nagano, Japan, won the coveted Mustard Yellow Belt at Nathan's Famous hot-dog-eating contest for the fourth consecutive year, by wolfing down 53˝ wieners in 12 minutes, shattering his own record by 3 hot dogs. As 3,000 fans wavering between nausea and fascination watched, Mr. Kobayashi - averaging a hot dog every 13 seconds - destroyed his closest competitor, Nobuyuki Shirota, of Tokyo, who managed only 38 dogs.

"I think he has proven, once again, that he is one of the finest athletes of any sport in the world," said Richard Shea, a spokesman for the contest.

In Riverside Park near 98th Street, Marie McFadden, 35, had set up an elaborate picnic regalia by noon - three blankets, two barbecue grills, a huge umbrella and three shopping carts to carry supplies - and was cooking hamburgers, hot dogs, chicken and spare ribs for a dozen friends and relatives while eight children raced about, shooting water pistols. Reggae drifted from a portable player.

"We're using my secret sauce - ketchup, mustard, brown sugar and love," said Barbara Gager, a cousin of Ms. McFadden. "We're having fun," Ms. Gager added. But she offered a more serious point about life in America almost three years after the 9/11 attacks. "We're moving on," she said. "We won't be stopped. We take our freedom with pride. It's such a gift."

Long before dark, tens of thousands of spectators began to assemble along the East River and around the harbor's rim, on the waterfronts of Queens, Brooklyn, Jersey City and other vantage points, for the fireworks show. The Franklin D. Roosevelt Drive was closed to traffic from Midtown Manhattan to the Battery. Police officers refused to allow alcohol or backpacks through security checkpoints.

Soaring aloft on rockets with spider trails from a half-dozen barges in the river and harbor, some 36,000 pyrotechnic shells erupted in a deafening barrage and riots of color against the night sky: whorls, swizzles, peonies and cascades of dazzling reds, glittering whites, sparkling blues and blazes of silver and gold that burst and flashed and built into a continuous din that echoed off skyscraper facades and rumbled out over the city like the roar of battle.

Reporting for this article was contributed by Stacy Albin, Eddy Ramirez, Colin Moynihan, Howard O. Stier and Karen DeMasters.

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

July 4th, 2004, 11:54 PM
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July 5th, 2004, 10:15 AM
Did anyone notice the lights on the Goldman Sacs building last night in Jersey City? About 3 quarters up the building there was a section lit up that changed colors. Was anyone aware that the building did that?

July 5th, 2004, 11:58 AM

July 5th, 2004, 12:37 PM
I was watching the fireworks from Liberty State Park and I didnt see the GSB flasing in colors I thnk the building your talking about is New port Tower 7. That was the one that was flashing.

July 5th, 2004, 01:38 PM
These are from Midtown, above the East River...(create your own soundtrack)













July 6th, 2004, 01:16 PM
A few from the Brooklyn Heights Promenade:





July 6th, 2004, 01:53 PM
That last photo shows the glittery amber 'weeping jellyfish' type that we were treated to in Boston... purely hypnotic. There was one bit where a minor climax featured an ever towering 'waterfall' of these huge cascades. WOW

July 6th, 2004, 03:33 PM
A-10s are amazing. Most people simply think of them as ugly brutes, but they perform spectacularly and are (were) excellent in the roles they fill(ed). I think most of them are retired now (why?).

Interesting to find such a comment here, but I agree. And as far as I know, it's just been decided to upgrade the 600 to 700 remaining ones.

Ah, I even found my source:


USAF Saves A-10 Fleet

Air Force officials may have found a way to avoid having to retire some A-10s in order to upgrade others.

Senior leaders, early this year, had announced that USAF would have to cut its fleet of operational A-10s to fund upgrades needed to ensure the Warthog’s long-term viability. (See “Battlefield Airmen,” April, p. 26.)

Air Combat Command officials initially thought they might have to retire half of the fleet. However, Air Staff programmers found that ACC could help pay for re-engining work if it delayed some A-10 maintenance work until needed, rather than when opportune, according to Inside the Air Force.

Lt. Col. Robert Silva, chief of A-10 requirements at ACC, told ITAF that this restructuring of the A-10 work should push a reassessment of the A-10 force structure out to at least Fiscal 2008.


Nice pix of the fireworks, too.


For the sake of accuracy: I don't think above number of roughly 600 is still correct, but cannot readily find appropriate sources.

July 6th, 2004, 05:16 PM
It was such an amazing show. Unfortunatelly I decide to see it on TV but it was worth it. I saw it from every angle. Like always I am impress of how wonderful Macys tribute to the city and the country is.

The problem of the TV ofcourse is that you have to listen to that music they like to play. I have to see it on mute but I can't hear the boom sound of course. :roll:

July 6th, 2004, 07:06 PM
That's beautiful! All the more reason for me to love NYC, I guess :P

July 6th, 2004, 10:38 PM
July 7, 2004

Fireworks Pop, and So Do Complaints of the Irritated


By most measures, it was a spectacular Fourth of July in New York City, with balmy breezes, festive crowds and a vast display of pyrotechnics over the East River. But in neighborhoods across the city, people said they were jolted by the unwelcome sounds of an old problem, not yet resolved.

Their complaints, about firecrackers, bottle rockets and other illegal, dangerous and annoying fireworks, seemed to be reflected in data compiled by the Fire Department. Yesterday, the department said that it received 660 complaints about illegal fireworks on July 4, compared with only 64 complaints on the holiday last year.

At City Hall, however, officials said the department's data was severely skewed and may have simply reflected the success of a recent city initiative to encourage people to use the city's 311 public service phone line. As New Yorkers have grown accustomed to using the new number, many more are calling with complaints about all manner of annoyances, including fireworks that shatter the calm of their neighborhoods.

"It's not as though this is something that has fallen off the radar screen," said Edward Skyler, the spokesman for Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg.

As recently as Friday, on his radio program, the mayor said that one of his biggest worries about the Fourth of July celebration was the use of fireworks by children, and he advised people to call 311 if they saw anyone with illegal fireworks.

Fire officials said that with arrests for and seizures of illegal fireworks on the rise this year, the problem remained under control.

But in interviews yesterday, people across the city said they had seen and heard more illegal fireworks going off in parks, streets and playgrounds this year than last. Some said they feared that the problem might be rearing up after years of intense police efforts to root out illegal fireworks, beginning under former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani.

"This area went from chaos to a point where things seemed pretty much under control," said Betty Braton, chairwoman of Community Board 10, which represents Ozone Park and Howard Beach, in Queens. Those neighborhoods were prime fireworks targets for Mr. Giuliani in the 1990's because the area included the block where the mobster John J. Gotti presided over an annual Fourth of July party and fireworks display.

"There was definitely a lot more fireworks this year," said Ms. Braton. At one point on Sunday, she said, she became so angry about the explosions near her home in Howard Beach that she called 911.

"I think the reason is there was not enough hype leading up to the Fourth," she said. "Under Mayor Giuliani, people were told flat out that you do, and we're going to come and get you."

In other neighborhoods, some echoed Ms. Braton, saying Mayor Giuliani's zeal in combating illegal fireworks did not appear to be shared by Mayor Bloomberg.

"I do recall in years past that the Fire Department was more aggressive in the days before the Fourth reminding people about the dangers," said Craig Hammerman, executive director of Community Board 6 in Brooklyn, which represents Boerum Hill, Park Slope and Red Hook.

He said illegal fireworks could be heard across his section of Brooklyn through the weekend. His worst moment, he said, came when he took a stroll Saturday night on the Valentino Pier in Red Hook, which offered an unobstructed view of the Statue of Liberty against a spectral sunset, only to have the calm shattered by teenagers with firecrackers.

"It was tremendously disturbing," he said.

Despite complaints that more illegal fireworks were set off this year than last, city records show that the problem is far less severe than it was a decade ago.

One statistic cited yesterday by fire officials was the number of fireworks arrests: seven so far this year, compared with six during the same period in 2003. In 1995, there were 56 fireworks arrests, the records show.

"It used to be a given that July 4 would be the busiest day on our calendar because of fires from fireworks," said Francis X. Gribbon, a Fire Department spokesman. "It no longer is."

But people across the city said something had gone amiss this year.

"You could see it on my own block," said Joseph Longobardi, chairman of Community Board 7 in Brooklyn. He said he returned to his home in Windsor Terrace on Sunday to find that spent bottle rockets had landed in his decorative pool.

"Previous administrations started talking fireworks much earlier before the Fourth," he said, "and this administration seems like it might have just skipped out."

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

July 7th, 2004, 09:43 AM
I am just dissapointed that they did not put them on the Hudson this year.

Why two spots on the East River and none on the Hudson? If they placed one barge at teh Lincoln Tunnel area most of NJ would be able to see it.

Hell, you could see them for 20 miles!

But Noooooooo. Macy's isn't NJ!

/me looks at the malls.

Nope I have never seen Macy's before I went to NYC.... :p

July 7th, 2004, 03:23 PM
Why doesn't Hoboken do a big show over the Hudson?

July 7th, 2004, 03:32 PM
I am pretty sure that with the Hudson river development that is taken place at both side of the river that there will be some demand to have a show there as well.

:mrgreen: I will love that! I have views of the hudson river from my place.

July 7th, 2004, 05:27 PM
I know, you can see the city from as far back and up as Goffle Road way off in Bergen County (a good 20 min drive from here)

Of course, you have to go up 208 from there to see it, but I can't remember the town. Hawthorne?

Anyway, Hoboken has some fireworks for different things, but when all you hear on the TV is "THE LARGEST FRIKKING FIREWORKS DISPLAY EVER WE ARE SPENDING BILLIONS PEOPLE WILL LOOSE THEIR MINDS IN EXTACY YOU HAVE TO SEE IT COME OUT OH MY GOD" for a week, you get dissapointed when you can count to 8 before you hear a faint "pom" after a big one goes off that was tall enough to be seen over the new JC highrises or over the Financial district......

July 8th, 2004, 10:45 AM
I don't know, Ninjahedge, it takes less effort for Hoboken residents to view the Macy's fireworks than it does for lots of NYC residents. If the show doesn't come to you, then......

July 8th, 2004, 01:42 PM
NaK, I am not saying that. I am saying that it would be nice if people OTHER than just NY, on NY soil (or the small part of JC and the Oranges that saww it over in the more "scenic" area of NJ) got to see it as well.

It is not very easy for someone in JC heights or other areas to get in, nor as convenient.

And, unlike comparing it to moving the dislpay to Coney Island where more brooklynites can see it, this would still be on a major river surrounding Manhattan, the main borough.

I would like to see one East River, one Hudson River and maybe one SoL display.

If not, I will do exactly what I did this time, not fight through crowds and pay my way across the city to sit there for 3-6 hours before hand for a 30 min show.

And I would still complain about it... ;)

July 8th, 2004, 06:21 PM
First I like the fact that Macy's included JC in the celebrationn with moring a pier off of Liberty State Park. Secondly, Ninja, we in Jersey just have to deal with New York's ignorance with them thinking that they rule the world and feel like they are to proud or stuck up to share the fireworks btween the two states and have to put the fireworks behind all of the glass and steel towers like a fortress. Aslong as New York is ignorant, arogant, and stuck up and think that Jersey is nothin but toxic wastelands, shopping malls and barbarians, we will have to do it alone. By the way if you ask me, I think New York never thought that the JC waterfront and the rest of Hudson County would take off the way we have, so they took the fireworks back to that sewage runoff that they call the East River becasue they are jealous and their pride is hurt beacuse they are starting to lose out to Jersey, which is their fault for ignoring Brooklyn and LIC. So NYC grow up and share the wealth and stop acting like a little baby who wont share, if you ask me I think Jersey is tougher and more accepting than NYC. New Jersey: Only The Strong Survive!!!!!

July 8th, 2004, 06:28 PM
You need to learn to take things less personally, and be a little less cynical. Seriously. You make it sound like everyone in NYC wants to pee all over NJ.

July 8th, 2004, 08:18 PM
You should never call people ignorant without checking your spelling and grammar.

July 8th, 2004, 10:41 PM
ALthoug it will be nice to have fireworks along the hudson, I will have to say that NYC and NJ wil have to share the price. Besides I am not sure but what does Macys have to do with the price on this? Do they pay for the whole thing or part for it. In either case NJ has to give.

Anyway isn't kind of dumb that most of the waterfront is given to developers who built stuff without providing a public park on the waterfront of NJ? Years from now you will regret that happened.

July 8th, 2004, 11:21 PM
I agree we should of but, I think JC waterfront will be ok becasue the new area of Newport is going to have alot of park land so i think that will make up for it some what and another thing about us needing public parks on the waterfront, three words: LIBERTY STATE PARK !!!

July 9th, 2004, 08:32 AM
...and I thought Boston had an inferiority complex toward NYC. 8)

July 9th, 2004, 09:31 AM
You need to learn to take things less personally, and be a little less cynical. Seriously. You make it sound like everyone in NYC wants to pee all over NJ.

They do, they just cant pee that far... ;)

July 9th, 2004, 09:35 AM
I think Macy's runs the whole shebang.

And if they do, even though they have their main HQ in Manhattan (like most stores) I would hazard a bet on NJ outselling manhattan, or even all of NYS.

I am not demanding anything, just strongly suggesting it, so whatever.

As for NJ parks, we have a few, but like I said previously, people would be able to see it from almost anywhere within about 10 miles of NYC, and in certain places within 20. We don't have a bunch of huge towers blocking the view.

The parks still need to be done, and we need to curb the popcorn-condos going up on the riverfront to get a nice "east side park" like NYC has the "West side Park", but that is another issue.

So, whatever. Opinion expressed.

July 9th, 2004, 10:43 AM
Why is it that NY'ers dont like NJ? Ive heard this more than once. :?

July 9th, 2004, 11:04 AM
Why is it that NY'ers dont like NJ? Ive heard this more than once. :?

Maybe the problem is that we both pay different taxes but get to enjoy the same thing...Manhattan! So some people feel tha NJ residents that live close to manhattan should pay taxes to NYC to keep manhattan clean of garbage and crime free. (At least that is what I heard)

July 9th, 2004, 11:24 AM
Interesting response...

Embedded within are some attitudes attributed to what are sometimes derogatorily refered to as "bridge and tunnellers."

The main mindset being that Manhattan is some sort of 'amenity,' a playgound or theme park that is 'consumed' rather than someone else's home and place of work.

July 9th, 2004, 11:41 AM
But it is also seen as the place where hundreds of thousands of people go to commute.

Also, with all the things that NYC has to offer in the social scene, it is hard NOT to see NY as a "playground". Not only by NJ, but by most of the world.

Now, as for taxes, that is one thing that gets me. The "bridge and tunnelers" are the ones that are already coming in, earning money for NYC companies and spending money IN NYC on food, apparel and other amenities while they come into work, or to play.

Most of the mess I see in NYC is not from these visitors, but by the ones that feel like they own Manhattan somehow.

I saw this kid (17 maybe) sitting on the bench for the 1 and 9. Looked like a Brooklyn Local visiting in Manhattan. He took the spoon/stick'whatever he had in his hand and just chucked it on the platform.

the garbage can was right next to him, within arms reach.

As for keeping NYC "safe", most crimes are committed by locals as well.

So who should be responsible for paying for all of that.

But thie is all a different topic. Maybe we should take the last few, copy them and paste them over to a new thread? (Just a suggestion)....

July 9th, 2004, 11:47 AM
You're right. This thread is about fireworks.

July 9th, 2004, 11:49 AM
Also, with all the things that NYC has to offer in the social scene, it is hard NOT to see NY as a "playground". Not only by NJ, but by most of the world.

Given that, can you blame some for having a bit of provincial disdain for these 'others?'

July 9th, 2004, 01:16 PM
The main mindset being that Manhattan is some sort of 'amenity,' a playgound or theme park that is 'consumed' rather than someone else's home and place of work.
For me, there was no better example of this than the WTC rebuilding. If you think about the people, famous and not, that over the years have advocated the replication of the twin towers, a high percentage of them are not from NYC.

Word Trade Center or Disneyworld Trade Center?

TLOZ Link5
July 9th, 2004, 02:37 PM
I believe that we all agreed to close this front of the age old trans-Hudson argument and return to the original topic: the fireworks.

July 10th, 2004, 08:37 AM
This Sunday at 3:00 AM, there will be fireworks in Jersey City, directly over JCMAN320's house. The event will be repeated daily, same time and place, until he stops whining about mean and selfish New Yorkers.


July 10th, 2004, 11:56 AM
I went to the Coney Island fireworks last night, part of the summer Fridays series. This is the first one I've seen this year. It was pretty good, they got new stuff since last year like they always do, and it seems better planned out now. There were at least 100,000 people there, probably more. The boardwalk was practically standing room only...

July 11th, 2004, 04:54 PM
You better have a whole alot of fireworks than!!! Its my opinion and sorry if you got a problem with that and if you do grow up!!! What? Cant handle Jersey attitude??!!!

July 11th, 2004, 05:22 PM
What makes you think that I have a problem? Does the toxic water in JC retard the development of a sense of humor? You really should lighten up just a bit.

Since you are the one who initiates this silly NY vs NJ feud, maybe you should give it up for a few reasons:
1. See above.
2. There is a much bigger supply of NJ jokes than NY jokes.
3. I think I am better at sarcasm than (not then) you.

July 11th, 2004, 09:11 PM
You better have a whole alot of fireworks than!!! Its my opinion and sorry if you got a problem with that and if you do grow up!!! What? Cant handle Jersey attitude??!!!

Wow... you do have an attitude problem... :roll:

July 11th, 2004, 09:41 PM
The situation has been resolved through the diplomacy of PMs. There is no need to discuss it further.

July 12th, 2004, 04:50 PM
What about "it".

I have heard a lot about "it" but few know what "it" is and are looking to find out all about "it".

"It" just goes to show you, you can't have "it" all.

July 12th, 2004, 05:04 PM

June 7th, 2005, 01:27 PM
Does anyone know someone I can buy 6" Display Shell Fireworks from in Long Island? I'm looking to purchase 100) of them on a yearly basis. If so, you can email me the details at: Johnenewt1@aol.com Thank you for your help.


June 7th, 2005, 01:38 PM
There were fireworks over Prospect Park on Saturday night, they were awesome.

I couldn't help but wonder how much soot and grime they sent to ground however.

July 1st, 2005, 05:49 PM
This is the first year that the Macy's show will be televised in glorious HDTV, on WNBC-DT, 9-10:00 pm.

July 1st, 2005, 06:38 PM
Oh I am going to miss the fireworks!!! :(

I am going to Montana for a week on sunday morning! :)

July 3rd, 2005, 09:41 PM
Does anyone know of fireworks over Brighton/Manhattan Beach on 7/03?

bohemian rhapsody
July 10th, 2005, 04:22 AM
The only large fireworks displays I've seen were at Disneyland and we'd watch every 4th from my grandparents' balcony in Orange County.
How large is New York's display compared to others around the country? How long does the show last?

July 10th, 2005, 11:12 AM
New Yorks display is the LARGEST in America. It lasts about 40 minutes.

July 11th, 2005, 08:46 AM
Those boats were REDICULOUS!!!!

It looked like a highway afterwards! So many boats, and some big ones, all ignoring "no wake" zones. Got a few dock-standers wet!

I have never seen that many boats on the hudson before.....!

bohemian rhapsody
July 11th, 2005, 11:38 PM
New Yorks display is the LARGEST in America. It lasts about 40 minutes.

Cool - I knew that the 4th in Boston is a pretty big deal and didn't know which city had the better fireworks.

June 29th, 2007, 11:29 PM
Early celebration of 4th of July in Astoria Park, Queens. 29 June 2007.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1293/666761876_349452e2b5_o.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/sudentas/show/)

June 29th, 2007, 11:51 PM
^^So beautiful, it's like a surreal painting.:cool:

July 1st, 2007, 10:02 PM
WOW, you ain't kidding! That is a breathtaking image.

July 4th, 2007, 12:10 AM
July 4th 2007 Event Announcement, Links (http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14399)

July 4th, 2007, 12:06 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1293/666761876_349452e2b5_o.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/sudentas/show/)
Claude Lorrain.


July 4th, 2007, 04:18 PM
Blog: Christopher Null (http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null;_ylt=AqhWE8HEGCCHtju4KNjYws7xLJA5)
Yahoo Tech's "The Working Guy"
June 28, 2007

For the 4th: How to Photograph Fireworks

I'm not sure why, but every time I'm around fireworks I have the uncontrollable urge to take a picture of them, as if this might be the last time I ever see something colorfully blowing up in the sky. Yet whenever I do snap these shots, I end up with a blurry splotch of red on a black background. Looking at the pictures later, they might as well be shots of a squashed bug.

Well, fireworks time is just a few days away, and the cameras will be pointed skyward once again. So how to you get a shot of something that looks like a work of art rather than a deceased insect? The website Digital Photography School has the secrets (http://digital-photography-school.com/blog/how-to-photograph-fireworks/),** with some impressive photographic proof to back it up.

If you're planning to photograph some airborne festivities, please check out the full story. But if you just want the quick tips, here's the Cliff's Notes:
Use a tripod and a remote shutter release, if you can.
Carefully frame the shot so that the horizon is straight and you don't get a bunch of heads in the picture.
Set aperture between f/8 and f/16 and use ISO 100.
Keep the shutter open for a couple of seconds, starting before the explosion. (Manual mode is your friend.)
Turn off the flash.
Experiment and have fun!Good luck, and send me your shots next week!


**I read this- It looks very useful for photographers who are just starting to get into fireworks as a subject.

July 5th, 2007, 08:27 AM
FIREWORKS: Beautiful

NYC POLICE: Lousy scum, rude, nasty, unhelpful, think yelling at my 66 year old mother is professional after a simple question was asked.

Somebody has to do something about these New York cops. And they wonder why so many people hate them so much. New York's finest my ass, they are an embarrassment. The AK47-wielding police in Cairo, a heaving city of 16 million, are more approachable, helpful and courteous than these scumbags. Can nothing be done to train these jerks how to properly talk to citizens?

What a shame.

July 5th, 2007, 09:36 AM
MTG, don't take it out on all of them because of a few bad apples.

I know where you are coming from, but at the same time I think you know about this as well.

Were you able to get the guys badge number? I think the citizens of NYC have to take it apon themselves to try and keep an eye on those that give the force a bad name.

I knoe that there is a brotherhood that is established, but if people actually watched the watchers, maybe we could all be better for it.

July 5th, 2007, 11:56 AM
I'm always amazed at, during the fireworks show, how many people aren't watching it. Some are on the phone, many are watching it through a camera, and a steady stream are walking through the crowd. Quite a few start leaving before the finale. What's with these people?

July 5th, 2007, 12:28 PM
A lot of my friends wouldnt even go to see them. They all said, "Once you've seen one show, you've seen them all." I think a lot of people are just used to fireworks they don't care.

July 11th, 2007, 06:16 AM
NYC POLICE: Lousy scum, rude, nasty, unhelpful ... Somebody has to do something about these New York cops. And they wonder why so many people hate them so much ... Can nothing be done to train these jerks ... ?
Pay them a decent wage?

July 11th, 2007, 06:27 AM
I just took pictures at a fireworks party in Eastern Queens. I could put them together in a mini-photo essay, but I'm not sure where to post it.:o

September 30th, 2007, 04:51 PM
Every few weekends, there are fireworks in battery park on a saturday night. The schedule seems fairly random, as is the specific location in the Hudson.

Does anyone know of a website or location to get a calendar for these? I assume there is a permit that is required, but I have yet to find anything on google when I try.


September 30th, 2007, 05:27 PM
Look HERE (http://www.cb1.org/pdf/FIREWORKS_2007.pdf) for what purports to be a complete schedule for both land- and water-based fireworks shows.

October 2nd, 2007, 07:54 AM
That is exactly what I am looking for - where did you find that so I can get updated versions?

Thanks very much

October 2nd, 2007, 08:10 AM
^I don't know who prepares that schedule. I discovered it through a link at the Community Board 1 web site (http://www.cb1.org/).

June 18th, 2008, 02:56 PM
Hi. I guess this question is for those that have attended the event in the past. I wanted to know from experience the best place to watch the Fireworks from. Also, how early would I need to show up. Thanks in advance.


June 18th, 2008, 05:47 PM
If we divulged that then EVERYONE would go to that spot and there'd be no room left ...


June 18th, 2008, 05:50 PM
If we divulged that then EVERYONE would go to that spot and there'd be no room left ...


CAn u please please please let me know. It is just me with my sister. My email is Nali476@aol.com


June 18th, 2008, 07:39 PM
I was joking ;)

This is for the Manhattan side ...

If you go a few hours early then the FDR Drive just south of the Brooklyn Bridge is great --

Or if you don't want to hang out for a couple of hours then try any of the open spaces in and around South Street Seaport, the nearer to the Brooklyn Bridge & FDR the better. I've arrived as little as 5 minutes before the start of fireworks and have managed to get a great view.

Of course if you want to be in an optimum viewing spot directly below (or seemingly so) the rockets' red glare then going early is advised.

Just hope for clear(-ish) skies and no rain.

I have an old friend coming to NYC for the first time over the 4th and fireworks are on the top on my list of "Things she needs to see". :D

June 21st, 2008, 03:17 PM
Hey Lofter- I will be in NYC for the 4th & someone was telling me that the Cirlce Line cruises might be a great place to view the fireworks. Do you know anything about this?

June 21st, 2008, 06:47 PM
I've never done that on the 4th.

Check the Circle Line website (http://www.circlelinedowntown.com/se-fourth-july.asp).

June 26th, 2008, 10:41 AM
My parents are visiting me (and New York) over the 4th of July weekend, and my dad is determined to see fireworks (no matter how much my mom and I a) try to talk him out of it, and b) sabotage any chances of it). We're doing dinner that night at 7 in the West Village. My last-ditch choice is obviously to walk over to FDR, but I'm wondering if anyone can suggest something at a bar / restaurant / hotel / whatever that will a) take reservations, b) be comfortable for two people from Texas who've essentially never been to New York before, and c) will have alcohol available (for me).

Now that I've asked for the impossible... any suggestions?

July 2nd, 2008, 03:55 PM
You lost me. I thought you had reservations already. You want to choose a different place? Who are the two people? Why wouldn't you want to see fireworks on the 4th of July in NYC after travelling all this way?

Anyway, consider this: they hold the same fireworks show in midtown and downtown, and though midtown has more barges, both are spectacular. So you could always go downtown and find a restaurant and/or bar and walk over to see the fireworks relatively easily - like minutes before they start. Maybe not front row, but you don't need to if you'd rather hang near a bar. If you're starting in the West Village the subway will take you close. There are lots of bars and restaurants north of Fulton Street around Front St. and Peck Slip.

The Benniest
July 2nd, 2008, 11:15 PM
This may help a little when planning where to see NYC fireworks:

"Your Guide to Macy's July 4th Fireworks" (http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/07/01/2008-07-01_your_guide_to_macys_july_4th_fireworks.html)

July 2nd, 2008, 11:29 PM
I go down to east 29th st. OR 23rd, close to ave c- around Belleview.
29th slopes down to the water and under the highway.
If you stay up around the hospital you have a perfect view above the highway and can see the works from there,
(unless they've changed the location of the barges).
You may not be able to see the static ones on the water (but I never cared about those).
The added bonus is when it's all over, there are no crowds
to fight your way through to get home!;)

The Benniest
July 3rd, 2008, 02:25 PM
NYPD seize 40 boxes of fireworks


Thursday, July 3rd 2008, 8:19 AM

New York City (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/New+York+City) police say they have seized 40 boxes of fireworks with a street value of up to $10,000.

Police, armed with a search warrant, confiscated the fireworks on Wednesday from a private dwelling on Staten Island (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Staten+Island). They say the homeowner, Stephen Crea (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Stephen+Crea), was charged with reckless endangerment and unlawful dealing in fireworks.

It could not immediately be determined if Crea had a lawyer.

Copyright 2008 New York Daily News

July 4th, 2008, 01:12 AM
Even since this ban on fireworks took place, 4th of July has been "quiet". I miss the sounds of explosives going off every minute :cool:

July 4th, 2008, 07:40 PM
You'd welcome the noise here then. Loud fireworks last night around 4 AM.

July 4th, 2008, 09:42 PM
I live on the eastside and thought this would be the first year that I didn't have to deal with the crowds and watch the fireworks from my roof. Damn Kips Bay Plaza is blocking my view!

The Benniest
July 4th, 2008, 09:50 PM
The Macy's Fireworks are going on as I'm typing this on NBC (i think).

It's amazing. :cool:

The Benniest
July 4th, 2008, 10:04 PM
I love this photo from this year's Macy's Firefox Spectacular:

The Macy’s Fourth of July fireworks display in New York seen from Midtown Manhattan.

July 4th, 2008, 10:20 PM
No better backdrop for this event than the Empire State Building.

July 5th, 2008, 09:20 AM
Traveled to LIC with friends to watch the show -- the idea to see them with the Manhattan skyl;ine as backdrop. But since the barges were moved farther donw river this year it wasn't the optimal viewing spot -- that would have been the Williamsburg waterfront. I liked the trailing streamer type fireworks. And the gold + white + silver combos. This country could use some new "America is great" type music / songs :cool:

The most fun + exciting was the return trip to Manhattan: after the show the LIC / Vernon Avenue subway stop was swarmed by a couple of hundred thousand travelers who spilled up the stairs and out into the intersections for a few blocks, rendering traffic a stalled mess. So we trotted on to one stop east at Hunters Point and got on an empty train there. When the Manhattan bound train arrived at VA station the crush of oncoming passengers was a bit scary. And when the train pulled out there was still a mass of waiting folks all hot & wet completely filling the platform. :eek:

Next year wie'l probably walk it over to the Manhattan side of the East River and avoid the trains ...

The Benniest
July 5th, 2008, 10:43 AM

Town fireworks display accident in Iowa injures 12

CHARLES CITY, Iowa (AP) -- An accident during a municipal Fourth of July fireworks display injured at least a dozen people, local fire officials said.
Most of the victims suffered minor injuries.

The Charles City Fire Department said the accident occurred when ground level fireworks were exploding Friday night. Witnesses said a fireball veered into the crowd of spectators.

Elsewhere, police in Riverside, Ohio, said a man lost part of his leg when fireworks went off inside his parked SUV, blowing the windows out of the vehicle.

A 6-year-old girl in Bayville, N.Y., suffered second-degree burns when fireworks landed in her lap, police said. Investigators said it wasn't immediately clear who launched the fireworks but said the child wasn't at a public pyrotechnics display.

At Port Huron, Mich., a 51-year-old man was critically injured when he was struck in face by a mortar-type firework while several were setting off illegal fireworks at a home, the St. Clair County sheriff's department said.

Officers said the man was placing the firework in a tube when it ignited.

Copyright 2008 NYPost.com

The Benniest
July 5th, 2008, 11:39 AM
The Macy's Fourth of July Fireworks show thrilled New York for its 32nd year this Independence Day.

Six barges launched more than 35,000 shells from their positions in the East River.

Rain moved in just 15 minutes before the start of the show, but it couldn't drive away the spectators.

In the city where the Declaration of Independence was siigned 232 years ago, fireworks burst in the sky over the Philadelphia Museum of Art.

Washington, D.C. saw fireworks explode over the National Mall, lighting up the Capitol, the Washington Monument, and even monuments outside the city, like the Marine Corps Memorial in Arlington, Va.

Milwaukee launched its fireworks over Lake Michigan on Thursday, so as not to compete with surrounding communities' July 4 celebrations.

The celebration extended to foreign shores, as fireworks exploded in front of the Brandenburg Gate's quadriga in Berlin to mark the opening of the new U.S. embassy there. Former President George H.W. Bush, who was in office when the Berlin Wall fell, was there to cut the ribbon.

Among all the displays, New York's remained the largest, rain and all.

While multi-colored displays wowed the crowd, single-color arrangements were impressive in their own right.

New Yorkers and visitors alike packed the streets to watch the display.

Copyright 2008 New York Daily News

July 5th, 2008, 03:41 PM
The event itself was spectacular, but watching this on tv last night on NBC was terrible. I can't stand watching this great event get poor coverage on the network. Next year I will watch it in person :)

The Benniest
July 5th, 2008, 11:26 PM
I agree. I watched it on the TV with family and would have loved to see it in person. Maybe next year. :rolleyes:

July 6th, 2008, 12:53 AM
The weather was crap but the fireworks were spectacular. New colors, new shapes, new ways to aim them. It was a show of pyrotechnic advancements.

July 6th, 2008, 02:30 AM
As good as the show was and with the Brooklyn Bridge as a backdrop, it still feels small. More barges should be in place up and down the East River, and even along the Harbor with the Statue of Liberty.

May 5th, 2009, 03:34 PM
From the NY POST:



Last updated: 11:04 amhttp://www.nypost.com/seven/05052009/photos/news_graph.jpg
May 5, 2009
Posted: 1:56 am
May 5, 2009
The July Fourth fireworks will be a West Side story this year.
Macy's is moving its entire fireworks extravaganza to the Hudson, turning what were once the best seats in the house along the East River into the equivalent of an obstructed view at one of the city's new ballparks.
The move -- intended to mark the 400th anniversary of Henry Hudson's voyage -- will make the West Side and New Jersey prime viewing spots for the first time since 1993, when Macy's last used the Hudson exclusively for its fireworks show.
"The 400th anniversary of the discovery of the Hudson River is a major anniversary," said Macy's spokesman Orlando Veras, explaining the decision to abandon the East River this year.
The 2009 show will be bigger than last year's, with six barges between 24th and 50th streets. A total of 40,000 shells will fire up the show, which will last 26 minutes -- the longest and biggest in the nation.
Last year's event included four barges between 14th Street and South Street Seaport, shooting off 30,000 shells.
At Waterside Plaza, an East Side high-rise complex overlooking the East River, residents have had the best seats in the city for watching the fireworks.
"Oh, no, that's terrible," longtime resident Michele Kasson said. "I've lived here about 20 years, and the fireworks have been part of my living experience here. When the community finds out, they'll be totally disappointed. Just today, I invited someone to see the fireworks that lives on the West Side."
This year's change in venue doesn't mean Macy's won't ever return to the East River. "We will look at the show and what we want to do next year and make a determination later," Veras said.
A City Hall spokesman yesterday said it was reviewing Macy's plans.

May 5th, 2009, 05:26 PM
Thanks very very much for all of the pictures of fireworks in New York City. And thanks very very much for all of the posts about fireworks in New York City.

May 5th, 2009, 07:38 PM
It's about time we here got to see it. Hell Macy's had 2 barges at LSP in JC for 2 years and made us part of the spectacular, then Bloomberg said he didn't wan't us part of it anymore!!! Well this is long overdue!! it use to be in the Hudson from the 50's all the way to the mid 90's then NYC got greedy and moved it to the East River. Hopefully this 400th Celebration is big enough to show that the Hudson deserves to hold the fireworks display.