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Gulcrapek
June 27th, 2004, 05:37 PM
EEK Architects

http://www.eekarchitects.com/indprjdoc_eek.cfm?Action=ProjectDoc&webprojcatid=2 24&projectid=48327&categoryname=Residential

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Rego Park


Location: Rego Park, New York

This new mixed use retail/residential development is being planned for Rego Park, Queens. The goals of the complex are to provide more public space for the neighborhood as well as augment the retail opportunities on Junction Boulevard. The mixed use nature of the development helps to revitalize this portion of Junction Boulevard, transforming it from an empty lot into a Mixed Use Main Street.

The complex consists of a residential towers totaling 300,000 sf that surround a central public plaza. A pedestrian promenade links the retail with surrounding residential streets. The three floors of retail, 485,000 sf total, will supplement the existing malls in the area, forming a true shopping destination in this area of Queens.

Visual interest of the area will be improved by removing cars from street level. The residents will have an underground parking garage and the shoppers will have 5 above- grade parking levels with a pedestrian/vehicular bridge linking to the adjacent shopping mall.

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Derek2k3
June 27th, 2004, 11:40 PM
I remember seeing this also. It doesn't look like a typical New York development.

Bernie
June 28th, 2004, 07:52 AM
Memories of Rego Park: Howard Johnson's, Jahns, Hamburger Train, Alexanders, Woolworth & McCrorys, Scott's Seafood, The Boulevard Club, Instant Pants, Sunny's Chinese, Parsonts Toy Store, the GG local.

Derek2k3
June 6th, 2005, 10:04 AM
Queens Courier
With Wal-Mart Out, Large Development Proposed
By Tonia N. Cimino

http://www.queenscourier.com/archives/2005/lead031605a.htm

http://www.queenscourier.com/images/031605/development.jpg
Image courtesy Vornado Realty
An artist's rendering of the proposed residential/commercial development that may be coming to Rego Park.


Shoppers need not fret. Although Wal-Mart will not be coming to Queens, the site in Rego Park may still serve a retail purpose, as well as a residential one.

According to Vornado Realty Trust, the location may still be home to a three-story mall, two residential towers and 1,416 parking spaces.

The plans for the 1.8-million-square-foot complex were unveiled at last week's Community Board (CB) 6 meeting to mixed reactions.

"You have Queens Center Mall not too far from there," said Robert Hassele, who resides in the area. "This may affect it as per business."

Michael Berfield also announced at the meeting that Vornado is currently in discussions with a potential tenant, a branch of the Century 21 retail chain.

But those claiming victory over Wal-Mart are still concerned that any development will only increase vehicular congestion, pollution and school overcrowding in the area.

"Congestion is terrible, especially on 63rd Drive," said Hassele. "If it happens, we will definitely need a police presence."

Vornado countered the environmental concerns, saying that its Environmental Impact Statement addressed these and that its plans for development were in keeping with area trends.

The plans may not be a reality as of yet, as Vornado needs to get several variances in order to build. The site, which is flanked by the Long Island Expressway and Junction Boulevard, is zoned for residential and community development and will require a variance to adjust the amount of parking spaces needed to accommodate shoppers.

"Personally, I would have preferred a Wal-Mart because it's more price-efficient for local shoppers," said Hassele. "A store like that would really serve the community needs better."

When The Queens Courier attempted to contact CB 6 officials, District Manager Kathleen Histon declined to comment on her opinion of the proposals. She did say that a vote on the plan will take place at the April 13 meeting, after which it will be forwarded to other agencies.

Dan Andrews, spokesperson for Borough President Helen Marshall, said, "We need [Vornado] to come in and give us a detailed presentation to see how the plans will fit on that parcel. The likelihood is that they won't be bringing in tenants with a history of labor issues [like those that Wal-Mart had]."

elfgam
June 6th, 2005, 12:12 PM
I think this is great -- it's time to build up the outer boroughs with more developments like this -- mixed-use, high density, primarily urban (not suburban). I only wish they would increase the density a bit more and downplay the parking. Does anyone know how close this development is to the Junction Boulevard subway station or LIRR? It'd be nice if they made it more of a transit-oriented city (high-density development centered around a transit node within 10 minute walk). They should be doing that all over queens.

tmg
June 7th, 2005, 10:17 AM
It's a very long way from the Junction Blvd. station, but right on top of the 63rd Dr/Rego Park station on the Queens Blvd local line. The Forest Hills LIRR station is two stops and a very short walk away.

In my view, the main reason more of this isn't happening is that the subway lines are at capacity. Travel time into the city isn't bad, but more people can't physically squeeze onto the express trains at rush hour. Also, traffic in the vicinity of Queens Blvd. (especially on the side streets immediately surrounding QB) is truly nightmarish, especially on weekends. QB was designed for through traffic, not the tremendous volumes of local traffic generated by the malls and other retail along it.

krulltime
September 24th, 2005, 12:24 AM
Vornado Project Gets Approval


By Ian Ritter
September 21, 2005

QUEENS, NY-Alexander’s Inc., a REIT managed and one-third-owned by Vornado Realty Trust, has gotten government approval to build Rego Park II, a mixed-use project here with 600,000 sf of retail and 450 apartment units. A 122,000-sf Century 21 discount department store will anchor the project, for which Paramus, NJ-based Alexander’s executives do not yet have a construction or completion date.

The development, located at the intersection of the Long Island Expressway and Junction Boulevard in the Rego Park neighborhood, will have four levels of retail. Vornado has not yet announced any other tenants that will go into the center.

Wal-Mart was originally slated to go into Rego Park II with its first New York City store, but Alexander’s proceeded without the retailer after community opposition to the project. “We do a lot of business with Wal-Mart and were talking to them, among others, about Rego Park,” says Steven Roth, the chairman/CEO of Vornado, which is also based in Paramus, in the company's annual report. “We believe in Wal-Mart, but Wal-Mart has its critics, and when it became certain that the entire project could be rejected if Wal-Mart were a tenant, we had no choice but to continue without them.”

With or without Wal-Mart, Vornado won’t have trouble filling up the center with stores, says David Rosenberg, executive vice president at New York City-based Robert K. Futterman & Associates, which is working with Vornado to bring tenants to the development. “That’s one of the most densely-populated areas in New York City,” he tells GSR. “It’s got tremendous demographics.”

Nearby the Rego Park II site, Vornado owns Queens Boulevard at 63rd, a 343,248-sf center anchored by Bed Bath & Beyond, Circuit City, Marshall’s, Old Navy and Sears. Within a three-mile radius of that center, according to Vornado’s website, the average household income is nearly $84,000.

The tenant mix in Rego Park II could range from discounters to higher-end tenants, Rosenberg surmises. “I think what you’re going to see is some sort of hybrid of smaller store and big boxes,” he says. “There are a number of tenants that are not in the market that would like to be in the market, in all shapes and sizes.”


Copyright © 2005 Real Estate Media.

krulltime
July 26th, 2006, 01:44 PM
Here are more renderings...


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More in here... http://www.eekarchitects.com

krulltime
July 26th, 2006, 01:49 PM
Can a moderator move this thread to the Queens section?

elfgam
July 26th, 2006, 02:28 PM
This is amazing! keep it under architecture.

Ninjahedge
July 26th, 2006, 03:02 PM
Ugh.

Mini-Mall-Itis.

Jaffster
July 26th, 2006, 09:22 PM
Any news on when this is actually happening? The site used to be a pay parking lot but now its just fenced in.

Strattonport
July 26th, 2006, 09:30 PM
The website where the renderings are located mentioned it is still being planned, so who knows.

But Queens does need all the retail.

ablarc
July 26th, 2006, 09:33 PM
Parking lot. Ugh.

pianoman11686
July 26th, 2006, 11:04 PM
Reminds me of a shopping center I once saw in suburban Poland. Wrap your head around that idea...


I'd like to know who came up with the brilliant idea to clad it in that tacky color, which seems to resemble red sheet metal. This is going to look horrible from all angles.

krulltime
July 26th, 2006, 11:16 PM
Hmmm... isn't that parking lot there already?

ramvid01
July 26th, 2006, 11:40 PM
yea the parking lot is there, but this looks completely different from prior renders, and that red looks just so utterly terrible, not that it will matter, literally speaking the area next to LIE is extremely desolate. The only people that will be crying from this urban scar are the drivers on the LIE.

czsz
July 26th, 2006, 11:55 PM
Wow, pianoman, Poland was the first thing I thought as well.

The last thing this part of Queens needs are more tower blocks that imitate the repetitive angle-pattern of the rest of those housing projects.

pianoman11686
July 26th, 2006, 11:57 PM
Don't mean to get off topic but...you got some family over there? Or just like visiting?

shocka
July 28th, 2006, 02:09 PM
As for the point about the overcrowding in the school.. PS206 was over crowded when I went there I can not even imagine what it is like nowadays! Having all those 17 floor high rises in Rego Park and Lefrak City filled the school to the limit!

Also what i find interesting is that The Summit which is across the street from this will loose its view, while it seems part of Park Plaza will maintain views.

gangstakilla
November 6th, 2006, 07:46 AM
rego park is a suicidal area and is hell!!!!

there is no where to hang out for the children and young

all your precoius lives will be wasted here.

I am leaving I dont give a fk about all of you stay in hell.

The suicide rate for this area is the highest it is like jail there is no where to hang out. this area also has a lot of rent it is crazy it is hell!!!!!!!! there is no freedom there.

Im glad all you people will stay and live in here because im leaving and never coming back.forget about you all.

Jaffster
November 6th, 2006, 06:20 PM
Have you ever been to Rego Park?

Jaffster
November 19th, 2006, 10:00 AM
There is activity on this site now....

ramvid01
November 19th, 2006, 10:54 AM
I think they cleared the trees on the site and there is an excavator on the site.

Strattonport
December 5th, 2006, 07:57 PM
There was an article in today's Daily News that confirms that construction has started. It also mentioned the main retail tenants will be Century 21, Home Depot and Lowe's.

I can't seem to find the article online though...

antinimby
December 5th, 2006, 10:12 PM
It also mentioned the main retail tenants will be . . . Home Depot and Lowe's.Oh god.

Do we need any more of these guys, much less two of them in one location?

Strattonport
December 5th, 2006, 11:45 PM
Oops, sorry! I meant Kohl's, not Lowe's.

ramvid01
February 3rd, 2007, 12:31 AM
I pass by this site a few times a week. Its a HUUUUUGE block. Too bad this project is really ugly. Btw, they're well into digging the hole for this thing. About half the lot has been dug up.

antinimby
February 3rd, 2007, 01:15 AM
That's good to hear.

While I don't care for those big box stores, this was after all just a huge useless parking lot so I guess it's all for the best since we're going to get housing and retail out of it.

ramvid01
March 8th, 2007, 05:09 PM
Still a big hole. But it doesnt seem the digging has progessed much. The only new news is that there are 2 cranes on site.

antinimby
May 25th, 2007, 07:13 PM
Finally, an official groundbreaking for the Rego Park mall...


Building Begins on Giant Queens Mall

By Staff Reporter of the Sun
May 25, 2007 (http://www.nysun.com/article/55224)

Construction began yesterday on a gigantic Queens' shopping mall that could have included the city's first Wal-Mart.

Discussions between the big box store chain and Vornado Realty Trust, the developer, were scrapped in 2005 after opponents rallied against the retailer's labor practices.

The current plan includes Century 21, Kohl's, and the Home Depot at the 600,000-square-foot site, set to open in 2009.

Mayor Bloomberg defended Wal-Mart, saying the city, should not block any business from opening here. The CEO of Vornado, Steven Roth, said the new site will be an "architectural landmark." He also told Mr. Bloomberg that he had to "put a plug in" for the Moynihan Station and Madison Square Garden — projects the company is negotiating with the state.

© 2007 The New York Sun, One SL, LLC

antinimby
September 27th, 2007, 03:22 PM
The hole is huge, almost the size of GZ.

Mean construction site person wouldn't let me get a close-up pic so I went across the street on the roof of a parking garage and got them anyway. Haha.

Looking to the north.
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errho
November 10th, 2007, 12:21 PM
Here are 3 pictures of the construction site. I will be uploading more pictures once in awhile so you can see the progress in the construction
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antinimby
November 10th, 2007, 09:36 PM
Thanks for the pics and welcome errho. Seems like there is some progress, particularly in the SE quadrant, since I was last there.

ramvid01
February 22nd, 2008, 09:44 PM
While passing this on the LIE I noticed steel on the far enof the site that was higher than the parking garage across the street. Also there were 3 cranes at the site.

Looks like this one is already rising.

antinimby
May 1st, 2008, 08:27 PM
Bad news. The residential portion of this project is not going to get built, at least not at the present time.

From the NY Sun (http://www2.nysun.com/article/75676?page_no=2) today...


...In Queens, construction is progressing at a new mixed-use retail and residential project being built by Vornado Realty Trust. The development is situated behind the Rego Park Mall, bounded by the Horace Harding Expressway, Junction Boulevard, and 62nd and 97th streets.

The three-story retail complex, which is scheduled to open later in the year is said to include a Home Depot, a Kohl's, and Century 21. The original development included a residential component with about 400 units built in two residential towers. In March, the developer had to put that on the hold due to the weakened real estate market.

ramvid01
May 2nd, 2008, 01:05 AM
The article fails to mention however, that the community board is unhappy about them putting the residential towers on hold, and may try to apply pressure on the developer.

antinimby
May 2nd, 2008, 07:32 PM
Now that's the kind of progressive Community Board we like!

Can we clone that Community Board and replace all the other ones across the city with them? :)

NoyokA
May 4th, 2008, 02:07 PM
VNO is so development shy. Its for this reason that I feel the Hotel Penn. is in no real danger. It took them almost a decade to do anything with the Alexander's site, a one storey building in one of the best locations in Manhattan. They own all this property by Penn Station and have done nothing with it aside from a site at 34th and 7th where they built a one storey retail building and did not build the tower that was designed to go on top of it. Now this site which is approved for residential in a market that hasn't softened much at all.

littleskippy
December 23rd, 2008, 08:37 PM
To those of you that think that Community 6 Board is wonderful to push for those towers as part of Rego Park Mall, here is what this person living near by thinks. I live in Park City 3 & 4 and attended with other residents the initial Community 6 Board meetings. The Board never pushed for an environmental study of the effect of 400+ additional families on our neighborhood. They also did not look into the affect of the project on the water table. Check out the structural damage that was caused by the project on two other neighborhood coops whose management, by the way, supported the project. We successfully fought against Wal-Mart and were against the housing (not the mall) because no funds were allocated for schools, parks, etc. So if you want your community board to be like Community Board 6, Take our board - Please!

antinimby
December 25th, 2008, 12:55 PM
Nice try littleskippy but your post is full of factual errors. For someone who supposedly lives nearby and knows so much about this project, you'd think they at least know that "structural damage that was caused by the project on two other neighborhood coops" would be not possible as this site is completely isolated and unadjacent to any other buildings.

It is separated by roads (wide roads I might add) all around.

Water table? What about the water table? Are you drawing drinking water from the water table? What exactly would a project do to damage the water table? What about all the other gazillion large housing projects all around? They don't affect the water table, I guess.

What's next? Harm to the bay? What about the ocean? How about the Earth as well? Don't forget the tiny little creatures living in the dirt on that site. They will no doubt be disturbed too.

littleskippy, the best way to ensure that area does not get too overcrowded is for you to get yourself out of there. There are plenty of open land with no crowding problems in the rest of this country.

Don't add to the problem. Be the solution.

littleskippy
December 31st, 2008, 04:21 PM
http://wirednewyork.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif
You are quite correct, Antinimby, in stating that I don't know much about structural damage or the water table. But the trade publication Habitat does. In their November 2008 article on pages 19-25 entitled SOS TO CITY - OUR GARAGE FLOORS ARE SINKING, you can read about the damage that the project has done to two neighboring coops.

Antinimby, I do not know why you had to make the nasty remark about me leaving the neighborhood. I simply stated that Community Board 6 did not take into consideration expanding facilities (such as schools) to account for additional families. So why don't we and others look at the situation in a less insulting way so that we can all be the solution.

ASchwarz
December 31st, 2008, 04:56 PM
The city's public school population is stable, not growing, and most students don't even attend schools in their immediate neighborhood, so I'm not sure why local schools would be an issue.

antinimby
December 31st, 2008, 05:22 PM
littleskippy, I am not about to go searching some obscure publication for some article. You want to make a case, then it's your obligation to post the article here (or at least provide a link to it.)

In any case, I find that allegation of damage to other buildings caused by the water table as a result of the construction of a nearby site to be less than believable.

If this was case, there'd be widespread damage to water tables in every city and buildings all across the globe would be crumbling down every time another new building goes up. What is so different about the water table in Rego Park than anywhere else? Doesn't make any sense.

I frankly don't buy it. And even if that was the case, then those co-ops should seek legal remedies. Just like anything, if someone or something causes damage to your person or property then you have a right to compensation or you can sue.

About my comment, it wasn't nasty at all. It was nothing more than good advice. Advice that anyone else would have given you: if you are not happy where you are, then you are free to leave.

As they say, "if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen."

littleskippy
January 1st, 2009, 10:12 AM
The link to the website is: http://www.habitatmag.com/archive/p_article_list.php?heading_id=40&search_by_heading=1&print_only=0 Although they charge you $1.95 for the article, any coop should have a subscription and be able to get the article for free. Since you bring up they they can sue, that is exactly what both coops are doing. The article says in part, "There's an aquifer just 10 feet below the ground at the construction site, and once the excavation reached the water table, the builder, Bovis Lend Lease, had to divert the ground water into the city's sewer system before digging could resume. In engineering circles, this around-the-clock pumping process is known as 'dewaterin.'" The article goes on that in spite of this, "floor areas around the support pillars [of the garage] were sinking." In addition, "A walk around the neighborhood reveals that streets have sunk, many sidewalks are sunken and/or cracked, and several buildings have seperated fromtheir surrounding sidewalks.:

The only reason that I went on this website was through a Google search to see what additional stores I could be looking forward to inthe new mall. This is the first time in over 15 years on the net that I have posted anything and engaged in this give and take and this is my last post so you all can have the last word. My final comments are these - Saying that people can sue is, in my opinion, a very selfish way of saying the hell with them. I'll continue my discussions about my neighborhood and my city as I have previously for 60 years, face to face. If commenting in this type of forum is your thing, great. Enjoy. It ain't for me.

antinimby
January 1st, 2009, 02:22 PM
But that's what forums are all about. You can't expect to post questionable claims and expect to only get positive feedback. If that's not for you, then so be it.

Apparently that publication is nothing more than a co-op management insider's newsletter. Can hardly be considered experts on geology/engineering. Most of it are unsubstantiated allegations.

The courts will ultimately decide if this project is the cause. They will have experts to testify and then we'll know for sure. Until that happens, it's all just talk.

By the way, anyone know if the apartments are still going forward or not?

ramvid01
January 27th, 2009, 04:06 PM
So I passed by this site a few days ago and the cladding is 85-90% complete (sadly i didnt have my camera).

I must say that the cladding looks sligtly better than the rendering had portrayed it, however it is still nonetheless pretty hideious.

antinimby
January 27th, 2009, 10:19 PM
Did they build the apartment towers?

BrooklynRider
April 19th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Drove by here on Easter Sunday. The retail portion seems to be nearing completion. Although it will be occupied by "big box" retial, the architecture itself has some curves. Maybe it isn't great, but we've seen worse.

philvia
April 19th, 2009, 08:32 PM
i love how this entire project went from idea to completion without a single picture

BrooklynRider
April 20th, 2009, 07:24 AM
From the perspective I saw it, I would have had to pull over on the Long Island Expressway to snap a photo. Not going to happen.

Only the retail component is completed.

littleskippy
May 27th, 2009, 04:29 PM
Since I live within blocks of the project and have spoken to a number of people, here is an update:
- The residential section was postponed by Vornado as of the end of last year. Surprising since other coops and condos are being built in Rego Park and the values of apartments have held fairly steady.
- Home Depot has been reported to be considering dropping out of the project. This is not true. Home Depot had already dropped out months ago.
- And the latest is that Costco has taken the place of Home Depot. They will take over the entire basement area. Now that sounds like a better fit for the neighborhood.
As far as how the building looks, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Some sections look okay, some look tacky (red siding especially). We'll see when it's completed in the Fall.

BrooklynRider
May 27th, 2009, 06:54 PM
Hey LittleSkippy,

Any chance that you can take some photos and post them here?