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bigbadbuff
August 4th, 2004, 04:32 PM
Hello from Richmond, VA! I'm bringing my better half to NYC in mid November to propose and also to enjoy a few days in one of my favorite cities. We've been once before, several years ago, but it was a weekend trip and we did not get to see much at all- hardly any of the NYC landmarks other than Times Square, which I'll make up for on this trip. I've already done a lot of research (this site has been very helpful) on things to do, places to dine, etc. but there's still a lot of uncertainty. We'll be visiting for 3 days and staying in NJ, taking the bus in to the Port Authority (I know many may scoff at that but it's a necessity in order to do everything else I want to do... I know it's a big part of the experience and I may change my mind but I guess that's unlikely- hotels, parking, etc would take away a lot of my 'fun' money).

So I've got a list going of places we'll definitely be checking out, and would love opinions on which to 'group' together- ie, which would make sense to visit the same day to minimize taxi fare or waste time getting to. I am almost positive it will be the Sun-Wed of Thanksgiving week, if that matters (aside from potentially scary traffic :!: ). Our schedules make even this tight! Anyway, on to the sites:

Statue of Liberty
Central Park (several areas, including the zoo, the main lake, Strawberry Fields, and either a walking tour or carriage ride)
Empire State Building
NBC Studio Tour
Heavenly Day Spa (Tribeca)
Soho, the Village, 5th Ave. for shopping
Nobu, Blue Smoke, Serendipity, and an as-yet-undetermined Italian place for dining

Other things I would like to see if time permits:

Grand Central Station
Bronx Zoo
Metropolitan

3 days gives us time to do plenty but how much I'm not sure yet. I'm becoming pretty familiar with the city layout but you can only learn but so much from a map :D I was grudgingly planning on cabbing it everywhere necessary and walking the rest of the time, b/c of the time of year (chilly there in mid Nov.?) and unfamiliarity with the city enough to mess with the subway.

I also need to check further on the bus times, as I'm sure buses only run but so late back to the Meadowlands hotels.

Anyhow, I would really appreciate any suggestions, comments, etc. I'm sure I'll have plenty more questions!!

(Haven't decided where to pop the question yet, ideas there would be great too!!)

8) :P :D

ManhattanKnight
August 4th, 2004, 06:01 PM
(Haven't decided where to pop the question yet, ideas there would be great too!!)



That's an easy one: The Rainbow Room

http://www.rainbowroom.com/images/rroom_dancing1a_b.jpg


http://www.rainbowroom.com/index.htm

bigbadbuff
August 4th, 2004, 06:43 PM
considered that restaurant, but they are only open Friday and Saturday. I won't be in NYC then. :( I suppose the Grill is an option...

ManhattanKnight
August 4th, 2004, 06:50 PM
considered that restaurant, but they are only open Friday and Saturday. I won't be in NYC then. :(

In that case, consider the Rainbow Grill -- the views are in some ways better than next door in the Rainbow Room (and it's considerably less expensive). You might look over the list of "Romantic Places" in Zagat's NYC restaurant guide.

RAINBOW GRILL
http://www.rainbowroom.com/images/grill2.jpg

ZippyTheChimp
August 4th, 2004, 07:37 PM
The River Cafe (http://www.rivercafe.com/)

You don't even need the restaurant. Brooklyn Bridge, Manhattan skyline, East River boats, an old ferry landing.

It worked for Zippy 8)

http://www.pbase.com/image/26975253
http://www.pbase.com/image/24769276

bigbadbuff
August 4th, 2004, 10:22 PM
The River Cafe (http://www.rivercafe.com/)

You don't even need the restaurant. Brooklyn Bridge, Manhattan skyline, East River boats, an old ferry landing.

It worked for Zippy 8)

http://www.pbase.com/image/26975253
http://www.pbase.com/image/24769276

Yep, I knew the view was phenomenal but wow :o

I ditched the restaurant though as I couldn't find much on the menu either of us would care for. Are the lights from those pics of the bridge on at night year round? Or is that for Christmas? Also, how long does it take to walk the bridge 1 way?

ZippyTheChimp
August 4th, 2004, 11:10 PM
The lights are on every night. The bridge walkway is a little over 1 mile long.

NYatKNIGHT
August 5th, 2004, 11:56 AM
If your budget is so tight I would consider using the subways instead of taxis when you can - they aren't that hard to figure out. Over long distances it is faster and much cheaper. Doing that just a couple times a day could even make the difference between a hotel in NJ or one in Manhattan. It makes a big difference to be able to start and end your day without using the bus, and stay out as late as you please.

As for romantic restaurants, few surpass One if By Land, Two if By Sea. (http://www.oneifbyland.com/)

Grouped by proximity:

Central Park
Metropolitan

NBC Studio Tour
5th Ave. for shopping
Grand Central Station
Empire State Building

Heavenly Day Spa (Tribeca)
Nobu, Blue Smoke, Serendipity, and an as-yet-undetermined Italian place for dining
Soho, the Village

Statue of Liberty

Bronx Zoo


I'm certain you won't be able to do it all, but it's a good wish list.

billyblancoNYC
August 5th, 2004, 12:31 PM
This would be my thoughts.

Day 1:
1. From the PA, walk up 42nd street and check out the new stuff on that block.
2. If you like TS, take that up to about 48th street and hand a right, cut through Rockefeller Center, stop at 5th ave. If TS no big deal, continue up 42nd st, hang a left on 6th to see some of the skyscrapers, then hand a right and cut through Rockefeller to 5th. Check out Rock Center for all it's beauty and take the NBC Tour.
3. Stroll up 5th (Saks, Tiffany, etc) until you get the Central Park around 59th street.
4. Take a stroll around Central Park ( http://www.centralparknyc.org/ ).
5. Stop, maybe, around the 70s. This is around where the Met is ( http://www.metmuseum.org/ ). Head east again. Walk up to Madison Ave.
6. Madison Ave. is an even better walk and shopping experience than 5th ave. At this point, you may or may not make your way to Serendipity 3. It's on 60th street bet. 2nd and 3rd ( http://www.serendipity3.com/ ).
7. Walk back down Madison toward downtown. Grand Central Station is wonderful and is located at 42nd and Park ( http://www.grandcentralterminal.com/ ).
8. Make a left at anytime and make your way to 34th street and 5th ave. for the Empire State Building. Good experience, great views.
9. At this point, you'll be happy, but hungry. To get to Blue Smoke, you can walk down 5th, Mad, or Park to 27th street. ( http://www.bluesmoke.com/ ). It's a great place, and PLEASE GET THE DESSERT SAMPLER. It's amazing. Also, downstairs is supposed to be a pretty good jazz club. The area is great and filled with bars and restaurants and shops.
10. If you want a nice treat, swing by Both Madison Square Park ( http://www.madisonsquarepark.org/about.asp ) a few blocks from Blue Smoke or head over to Lex and run down into Grammercy Park (at 21st). This park is private, but the area is beautiful.

Day 2:
1. If you take the bus to the PA, take the train downtown. You could also take the PATH, too. It might be easier.
2. Go all the way down and walk around Battery Park City, see the WTC site, go to Wall St. and the NYSE, and see City Hall and it's park. This area is great. Stone St. is nice, too, with a closed off street and all bars and restaurants. You can get to the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island from Battery Park, I think ( http://www.nps.gov/stli/ ).
3. From this area, if you head up the Hudson, you run into TriBeCa first. This is where Nobu and Heavenly Day spa is.
4. If you continue, you hit the West Village, which is a wonderful area to walk around, look at the shops, sit at a cafe, etc.
5. Depending on where you are, as you head east, you hit Greenwich Village, SoHo, etc. This is up to you. Check out any map to figure this out.

Day 3:
This may be your exploration day.
Options:
1. Check out Brooklyn. See the Bridge, Brooklyn Heights (might be the most beautful area in the city), the BH Promenade, DUMBO, etc. The area is wonderful with lots of things close by. It's about a 5 minute train ride from Wall. St. to B. Heights.
2. Head to the Bronx for the Bronz Zoo ( http://bronxzoo.org/ ) and the NY Botanical Gardens ( http://www.nybg.org/ ), which are right next to each other. While there, get quick directions to Arthur Ave - a "real" Little Italy with great old school shops, etc. ( http://www.arthuravenuebronx.com/ ).
3. Take the Staten Island Ferry (which is free) for a great ride. If you want to stay, check out all the goodies at the Snug Harbor Cultural Center ( http://www.snug-harbor.org/ ). Also, the Tibetan Museum is supposed to be great ( http://www.tibetanmuseum.com/ ). The Tibetan Museum is by Historic Richmontown ( http://www.historicrichmondtown.org/ ).
4. Take the 7 train to Queens and get off any or all stops. You'll go from Irish to Filipino to Korean to Colombian to Mexican to Chinese in one trip. Great food all along the way.
5. Stay in Manhattan and explore. Uptown, Midtown, Downtown...

Of course, get a subway map or take cabs for the parts you don't want to walk. But to really experience the city, you should walk at least a little bit.

Hope this helps. Enjoy and good luck.

bigbadbuff
August 5th, 2004, 05:24 PM
in Day 1 part 2, what is 'TS' Billy? Sorry, I can't figure that out. :shock:

Thanks a ton for the help so far, it has been great! I'll be taking the suggestions and molding day plans. I'm sure there will be more questions though 8)

Schadenfrau
August 5th, 2004, 05:32 PM
Times Square.

One if By Land, Two if By Sea is another tremendously romantic restaurant. It's supposedly the most popular proposal spot in town.

http://www.oneifbyland.com/

Jasonik
August 5th, 2004, 08:27 PM
WOW, solid menu...... *conconcts occasion to go*

rocca
August 5th, 2004, 10:39 PM
How about "The Plaza"?

Or this one: Annisa?

Take a look at this picture, it's perfect!
http://www.annisarestaurant.com/grapix/annisa_rear_power_table.jpg
(This one is in Greenwich Village)

ablarc
August 5th, 2004, 10:47 PM
Cafe des Artistes: http://www.cafedes.com/Gallery/images.htm.

The website does not perhaps do it justice. This is the most genuinely romantic restaurant I know.

billyblancoNYC
August 6th, 2004, 12:44 AM
Or March...

http://www.marchrestaurant.com

bigbadbuff
August 8th, 2004, 08:57 PM
Unfortunately most of the nice restaurants in NY (as with most cities) have little to offer those who don't care for seafood or exquisite cuisine. Thusly I've had to cross off several places that I wish I didn't have to. Yeah, we could simply have the chef make us what we wanted but I don't like doing that. :(

I think I've narrowed it down to Nobu, Blue Smoke, Peep, Serendipity, Erminia, Peter Luger, and Grimaldi's Pizzeria. I'll whittle that down to 5 between now and the trip.

Can anyone tell me typical weather for NY in November? I would assume all the leaves have fallen at that point? Wish I could get there sooner to see Central Park in October colors.

GRich
August 8th, 2004, 10:56 PM
The weather in New York in November can be quite variable. As a general rule think "moderate" with occassional brisk days.

A few things you might want to consider at this time of year: The Wohlman Rink in Central Park offers a spectacular, almost cinematic setting, at night (check out the remake of "Miracle on 34th Street").

If you want to be treated like the favorite cousin of one of the city's most congenial and entertaining hosts, drop in at Chez Josephine's.

Also, if you want a to-die-for day spa experience you can't go wrong with Carapan.

To cap it all off I'd suggest afternoon tea at The Inn at Irving. You'll be transported to "The Age of Innocence". This place is one of, if not, the best-kept secrets in Manhattan.

Enjoy.

krulltime
August 8th, 2004, 11:45 PM
Please do central park if you need to. It is such an amazing park. In all the places I have been to I had never seen a park as wonderful as central park. It keeps you smiling all the way.

http://www.centralpark.org

For a very romantic dinner.

Park View Restaurant at the Boathouse
Central Park at 72nd Street
(212) 517-2233 $$$ (pricy)

NYatKNIGHT
August 9th, 2004, 11:27 AM
The marathon is run in early November because it's the perfect average temperature for the runners - the low to mid 50s.

But that's the average. It can be freezing or quite comfortable. And last year, the leaves changed later than usual and were at peak foliage in early November.

bigbadbuff
August 10th, 2004, 06:22 PM
Reservations are set for the Hyatt in Jersey City, which seems to have great Manhattan views- a nice bonus! Looks like the PATH will be the easiest way for me to go back and forth into NYC. 1 stop gets us to the WTC, where we can hopefully connect up with the subway close by.

I've definitely added the Met rooftop garden, skating rink in CP, and walking the Brooklyn Bridge to the list.

ManhattanKnight
August 10th, 2004, 06:46 PM
That's definitely preferable to staying at the Meadowlands and will remove late pm/early am travel concerns. You'll also have the option of taking a ferry to Manhattan.

billyblancoNYC
August 11th, 2004, 12:24 PM
Reservations are set for the Hyatt in Jersey City, which seems to have great Manhattan views- a nice bonus! Looks like the PATH will be the easiest way for me to go back and forth into NYC. 1 stop gets us to the WTC, where we can hopefully connect up with the subway close by.

I've definitely added the Met rooftop garden, skating rink in CP, and walking the Brooklyn Bridge to the list.

Just curious, why do you have to stay in NJ?

bigbadbuff
August 11th, 2004, 03:13 PM
Just curious, why do you have to stay in NJ?


Any decent hotel in NYC is $200+ a night that time of year. I didn't want $600+ of my trip budget going towards a hotel. I thought it would be a good idea to just stay close by and save some money for the fun stuff instead. Now I've got a perfect situation for this particular trip- nice hotel that is a 5 minute ride into downtown Manhattan, for much less that I would have paid staying in the city.

Heck with the amount I spent on the ring I'm being insane even doing this :shock: 8)

Jasonik
August 12th, 2004, 10:16 AM
Good luck!