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August 15th, 2004, 03:42 PM
Is that Ayvek the walrus?

August 15th, 2004, 05:33 PM
Is that Ayvek the walrus?

i didn't catch his name...http://jm.g.free.fr/smileys/fixes/Yahoo_22.gif

August 15th, 2004, 07:52 PM
I love Peguins! :lol: :D

August 15th, 2004, 09:08 PM
I love Peguins! :lol: :D

me too...remember this one?...


August 15th, 2004, 09:54 PM
I can't wait for this expansion. Such a great spot, it should be much better. I heard $45, plus maybe a hotel.

Does anyone know of any more specific details?

January 29th, 2006, 08:35 PM
how good is this aquarium. Ive never gone and never really imagined it would be too impressive. Is it really worth going. is it worth going in the winter?

February 9th, 2006, 07:52 AM
New York should have the biggest and best aquarium in the world.

Are penguins happy without snow? In Antarctica I hear they're having to acclimate to mud, newly-appearing due to global warming.

February 9th, 2006, 09:12 AM
At least plans call for an improvement in its presence in the area, especially on the boardwalk.

A major expansion is what's needed. They should eliminate the triangular parking lot, build a multi-level parking facility next to the cyclone (yellow school buses), and use the lot for new facilities.

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April 8th, 2006, 07:12 PM
^ Yup, build some condos. With the revenues, they can expand the place.

April 8th, 2006, 09:42 PM
how good is this aquarium. Ive never gone and never really imagined it would be too impressive. Is it really worth going. is it worth going in the winter?

It's dingy -- nothing to compare to the mega-aquariums in Monterey, Atlanta, Baltimore, etc. -- but better than no aquarium at all.

April 10th, 2006, 10:22 PM
It's perfectly average and somewhat cramped. They keep trying upgrades, but the answer is to build a new jumungo aquarium on the Keysan parking lot, domolish this outdated dump, and use this lot area to expand the amusement zone.

October 6th, 2006, 12:36 AM
The New York Times

From 3 Finalists in Aquarium’s Redesign, Swoops, Swirls and Great Water Views
Published: October 6, 2006

City officials yesterday unveiled three finalists in the competition to design a new exterior for the New York Aquarium, marking progress toward what would be its first significant renovation since it opened in Coney Island in 1957.

The three designs — by the firms WRT; Smith-Miller & Hawkinson Architects; and West 8 in collaboration with Weisz & Yoes Architecture — were winnowed from about 25 submitted since the city’s Economic Development Corporation and the Wildlife Conservation Society announced the competition in June.

The society owns and operates the aquarium, which is on city parkland.

“We also think the aquarium can be iconic,” said Joshua J. Sirefman, interim president of the development corporation. “We want to change it into a 21st-century institution.”

Originally housed in Lower Manhattan from 1896 to 1941, and since 1957 tucked into a 14-acre walled campus along Surf Avenue, the Aquarium for Wildlife Conservation gets about 750,000 visitors a year, mostly city residents.

But even fans have long complained that it is too isolated from the surrounding neighborhood, not to mention the ocean a few yards away.

“It’s built like a fortress. It’s surrounded by walls, and the only entrance is through the parking lot,” said Charles Denson, the author of “Coney Island: Lost and Found.” “And it’s below the level of the Boardwalk, so when you’re in the aquarium you can’t actually see the water.”

The new design, according to the competition guidelines, must be “visually porous, engaging and inviting.”

The Smith-Miller and Hawkinson design replaces the wall between the aquarium and the Boardwalk with an undulating wave fence that opens to the Boardwalk at several points.

The design by West 8 and Weisz & Yoes, by contrast, hides some parking lots under manmade sand dunes, cut through with looping pathways.

“It’s very important that people going to the aquarium have the experience of going to the beachfront again,” said Jerry van Eyck of West 8.

All of the designs are environmentally friendly, using phosphorescent paints or solar-powered lights to blend in with Coney Island’s neon cacophony.

The final design must also create a “beacon for Coney Island,” according to the guidelines.

To that end, one design incorporates a giant, glowing jellyfish resting on its tendrils.

The WRT design features an undulating enclosure, an interpretation of the nearby Cyclone roller coaster’s swoops and swirls.

It resembles an enormous whale, as though Moby Dick had lunged ashore and swallowed the aquarium whole.

Any of the models unveiled last night would make the aquarium much harder to miss.

City officials described a redesigned and more prominent aquarium as a key component of the broader Coney Island redevelopment plans that have gestated, mostly on paper, for several years.

With a new hotel, high-end retail stores, and an indoor water park, city officials and developers hope to convert Coney Island from a seasonal beach community to a year-round tourist destination.

“The aquarium is a critical anchor for Coney Island, especially if it’s that much more physically integrated into Coney Island,” Mr. Sirefman said. “People who come to a Cyclones game or to the amusements should be going to the aquarium.”

City development officials, in consultation with community leaders and the conservation society, expect to choose a final design this fall.

“This is the oldest aquarium in the country,” said Paul Boyle, its director. “The question is, how do we create a statement that the aquarium is here, and at the same time, support the expansion for major new features?”

“This will help us grow into our future,” Mr. Boyle said.


October 6th, 2006, 12:51 AM
All three proposals ^^^ look very cool ...

October 6th, 2006, 02:20 AM
Why not put them up then?




October 6th, 2006, 02:22 AM
I vote for the first one.
It has potential to become iconic.

The others are for children.

October 6th, 2006, 08:17 AM
I vote for the first one.
It has potential to become iconic.
I agree.

The hokiness of the others will grow tiring after a while. Even at Coney Island.

Has anyone considered that Coney Island may not be prospering due to past and present over-reliance on the hokey? The parachute jump, by contrast, is not hokey, and neither is the new transit station. The first aquarium design belongs with these, the other two don't.

October 6th, 2006, 09:06 AM
BTW, with respect to visual #2, note that dogs are only allowed on the beach at Coney Island from October 1 through April 1.

October 6th, 2006, 09:23 AM
They are going too far.

They have to keep it simple so when the funding is not there they do not have a safety issue when things are left unrepaired.

The back room was suffering from major leakage and salt water damage and it took them forever to get the funding they needed to repair it, I do not even know if they got it and made the repairs!!!!

As much as everyone says that an aquarium is a great idea, they rarely go. Most of the visitors are from the schools. They need $$ to run, and when most of that comes from the city, it does not get what it needs to survive...

October 6th, 2006, 10:40 AM
They are going too far.

They have to keep it simple so when the funding is not there they do not have a safety issue when things are left unrepaired.

As much as everyone says that an aquarium is a great idea, they rarely go. Most of the visitors are from the schools. They need $$ to run, and when most of that comes from the city, it does not get what it needs to survive...
The future may not look like the past. If Morgan Library and MoMA are any indication, new facilities give attendance a huge boost (quadruple or more), and its an opportunity to boost admission charges.

Coney Island Aquarium looked moribund. That accounts for low attendance; it just wasn't very thrilling.

In places where the Aquarium is state-of-the-art glitzy (Boston, Baltimore, Charleston, Monterey), attendance is very robust.

October 6th, 2006, 02:10 PM
Time for privatization?

October 6th, 2006, 02:16 PM
Admissions are a small part of funding, though a higher profile helps with fundraising - and even government grants.

October 6th, 2006, 05:16 PM
Number 1 is the best!

But for number 2 and 3 proposals... is that the best they can come up with? They are so boring! I hope they don't choose any of those two! Please!

October 6th, 2006, 06:03 PM
I like #2! Not for the jellyfish, but it sure looks like fun for school bus-riders

October 6th, 2006, 07:41 PM
The first one is the best. But I could be wrong: None of those renderings give me any real sense of what the building will look like or how it will function.

October 6th, 2006, 08:00 PM
#1 has cheated by erasing out all of the background Coney Island housing projects. It seems to be floating free in space.

October 10th, 2006, 04:54 PM
Coney Island fantasy
Wild aquarium additions proposed

Proposal from Smith-Miller and Hawkinson

Proposal from West 8 with Weisz and Yoes Architecture

Proposal from WRT


The Parachute Jump. The Wonder Wheel.

Think Coney Island landmarks and these two images probably come to mind immediately.
How about adding a giant magenta marine stinger (a type of jellyfish) or a big blue whale to the skyline?

Man-made versions of those two sea creatures are included in design proposals the city is considering for area around - and above - the New York Aquarium.

"We want to better integrate the aquarium into the whole of Coney Island," said Josh Sirefman, interim president of the New York City Economic Development Corp.

Currently, the Riegelmann Boardwalk entrance to the aquarium is found at the end of a long, concrete wall embedded with seashells and fish. From Surf Ave., visitors must use a walkway that goes from a parking lot to the front of the facility.

"The aquarium has seemed like a separate world unto itself, like a fort," said Community board 13 district manager Chuck Reichenthal.

In June, the EDC and the Wildlife Conservation Society, which oversees the aquarium, invited architectural teams to come up with ways to make the area around the aquarium more enticing to the 750,000 visitors.

Twenty-five teams submitted designs. Three teams recently were selected as finalists.

The giant blue whale is part of the design by Smith-Miller and Hawkinson. That team's plan also includes a fence opening to the Boardwalk and peepholes allowing passersby to see the aquarium.

The idea for the huge magenta jellyfish comes from West 8 in collaboration with Weisz and Yoes Architecture. Their design also includes elevated, man-made dunes.

The third design, from the architectural firm WRT, appears to wrap the aquarium in fishnet-type mesh filled with solar-powered lights.

"People were generally impressed [with the designs]," Reichenthal said. "We could see that the aquarium could be very open, very connected to the rest of Coney Island.

"All three designs have their zany aspects and you wonder, 'Will this work?' But everybody was thinking," Reichenthal said. "That's the first thing, whether an initial impression was positive or negative." The winning concept may be selected this fall, Sirefman said.

Originally published on October 10, 2006 (http://www.nydailynews.com/boroughs/story/460105p-387107c.html)

© 2006 Daily News, L.P.

October 15th, 2006, 09:06 PM
It's for the exterior only.

March 7th, 2007, 01:26 PM
New York Aquarium Chooses New Design
Special to the Sun
March 7, 2007

The New York Aquarium has chosen a design for its new exterior, a giant, wavy, cage-like enclosure with an aquatic theme, sources tell The New York Sun.

The design, created by a Philadelphia-based firm, Wallace, Roberts & Todd, and Barcelona-based Cloud 9, is intended better to blend the aquarium's multiple Robert Moses-era buildings with the nearby beach. The Coney Island-based aquarium sits at the end of string of parking lots and currently has no direct access to the neighboring boardwalk or ocean.

The aquarium, which is owned and operated by the Wildlife Conservation Society, selected the design from three finalists about two months ago, though it has withheld a formal announcement, the sources said.

The plans for the site tie into a larger effort to revitalize the bygone amusement hub, which now lies eerily dormant for half the year.

Representatives at WCS did not return calls for comment and a spokeswoman for Wallace, Roberts & Todd declined to comment.

Coney Island natives, who have long viewed the exterior of the aquarium as uninviting, welcomed the decision to revamp the 50-year-old complex.

"The aquarium has always been hidden away and walled in," a Coney Island historian, Charles Denson, said. "You can't see the ocean from the aquarium. It's right on the Atlantic, but there's nothing that connects it to the beach."

WCS, in conjunction with the city's Economic Development Corporation, began a design contest for the new exterior last summer, asking companies to make a design that could serve as a beacon for the area. About 25 companies made submissions, and the winner was to be announced in the fall.

A spokeswoman for the EDC, which is involved in implementing a strategic plan for the Coney Island area, Janel Patterson, said the EDC and WCS are working out details of the project and do not have a specific time line for construction.

"The perimeter design is really quite a large undertaking — it can't be done all at once," she said. "We want to be sure we're scheduling the correct phasing with funding that becomes available."

The city has sought to revitalize Coney Island for years, and the planning department is working on a rezoning for the area that would allow for new development.

A private developer, Thor Equities, has bought several lots in the area, including the Astroland amusement park, and is engaged in a publicity campaign promoting its plans for a giant new entertainment complex complete with an indoor water park, retail stores, and restaurants to the southwest of the aquarium.

However, the company is seeking to build luxury condominiums in the heart of the district, a plan the city opposes.

Until any development can go forward in the amusement district, Mr. Denson said the aquarium will be one of few sites that will draw people to the area, as Thor plans to close Astroland this fall and continue clearing the land on its other properties.

"It's going to be one of the main attractions in Coney Island," he said. "There's not much left."



March 9th, 2007, 08:25 PM
great news

March 10th, 2007, 10:25 AM
True, considering it will be CI.'s only attraction in coming seasons.

March 10th, 2007, 12:40 PM
Yeah but now how 'bout improving the exhibits inside the building.

March 15th, 2007, 11:30 PM
Honestly, I can see more fish at Petland Discounts.

April 5th, 2007, 11:19 AM
Is the new CI open to the public? LOL petland discounts

April 12th, 2007, 03:36 PM
The exhibits remain the same. just the exterior they are going to improve.

January 11th, 2011, 06:42 AM
WCS’s New York Aquarium Receives Approval for New Exhibit

December 20, 2010

By Carolina Worrell (enr_web_editors@mcgraw-hill.com)

Helping to further the revitalization of Coney Island, The Wildlife Conservation Society has received approval from the New York City Public Design Commission for a new 50,000-sq-ft exhibit called Ocean Wonders: Shark, at the nearly 115-year-old New York Aquarium in Coney Island, Brooklyn.

Rendering courtesy of WCS

“This exciting new shark exhibit will attract people from far and wide to visit the New York Aquarium,” said New York City Councilman Domenic M. Recchia, Jr. “The revitalization of Coney Island is already attracting record-breaking crowds and Ocean Wonders: Shark is an important piece of our ultimate goal- establishing Coney Island as the biggest, best year-round tourist destination in the world.”

Inspired by nature and designed by a collaboration of WCS’s design team, the Exhibition and Graphic Arts Department, The Portico Group, and the consultant team including Doyle Partners, the new exhibit will include a shimmering spiral ramp that will wrap the building from inside the aquarium campus to the boardwalk and lead visitors to a roof deck with an interactive gathering space, a water play sculpture area, and a touch tank featuring local species. More than 500,000 gallons of water will be added to the new exhibit and will feature such species as sand tiger sharks, nurse sharks, sandbar sharks, whitetip reef sharks, blacktip reef sharks, wobbegong sharks, Port Jackson sharks, roughtail rays, clearnose skates, thorny skates, cownose rays, loggerhead sea turtles, hawksbill sea turtles, and thousands of schooling fish.

Another main feature of the building will include a 1,000-ft long dynamic wall that will be comprised of small aluminum squares that will move with the wind and sparkle in the sunlight. The Arhcitect of Record on the projects is New York City-based Edelman Sultan Knox Wood and Ned Kahn, of Sebastopol, California, is the artist of the shimmer wall.

Ocean Wonders: Shark is a key component of A Sea Change, a 10-year partnership launched in September 2009 by WCS, New York City, and Brooklyn that includes two transformative programs: a renewal of the New York Aquarium featuring new, innovative architecture and exhibits and a renewal of WCS's commitment to local conservation with the New York Seascape, a marine conservation program that will build awaress and protection of the waters from Montauk, N.Y., to Cape May, N.J., and the Long Island Sound.

"Ocean Wonders: Shark will inspire New Yorkers to celebrate the city's maritime heritage and attract more visitors and businesses to Brooklyn's oceanfront," said Steve Sanderson, WCS President and CEO.

The new building featuring New York Aquarium's new Ocean Wonders: Shark exhibit is slated for completion in 2015.


February 10th, 2011, 05:30 AM
Penguin Pool Murder

Thanks to reader Fabulous for turning us on to the 1932 film The Penguin Pool Murder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penguin_Pool_Murder), which features several rare interior shots of the old New York City Aquarium, which you can read about here (http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2010/12/new-york-aquarium.html).

The Aquarium was closed by Robert Moses in 1941, when he planned to build a bridge at Battery Park, so these scenes are from its final decade, after being a showplace since 1896.

(click photos to enlarge)

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Watch the movie here on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SIabblsjZ4&feature=related) or check out the trailer at TCM (http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/index/?cid=146962).