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AmeriKenArtist
December 5th, 2004, 11:20 PM
I read some of the Jersey City Rising thread. I was distracted by a link and looked at all the photos of that waterfront. My first concern is an uninformed one- but I am going to jump in here with both feet.

After looking at the photos I was reminded of the visual effect of Atlantic City. And if you know anything about that oceanside town, it became extremely polarized financially. Now that is an extreme because of the string of casinos. That cannot happen here, or can it to a degree? What will happen to the adjacent neighborhoods? Again, this is simply a visual reaction and I appreciate reading from the informed.

Ken

JCMAN320
December 6th, 2004, 07:55 PM
Hey Ken. Im from Jersey City. It might give the apperance of that but Jersey City is much bigger than Atlantic City and have more than one area of comercial skyscrapers in an area called Journal Square in the heart of the city. The neighborhoods around downtown which is larger than one square mile, is some of the mosts sought after real estate in the New York area and also very well to do and well organized so the neighborhoods that border the skyscrapers on the waterfront benefit. So all of these factors make it a very succesful story and make polorization almost impossible.

TLOZ Link5
December 6th, 2004, 11:34 PM
Atlantic City and Jersey City are two entirely different stories.

Jersey City's resurgence is definitely more organic than Atlantic City's. JC has been gentrifying for years as people with jobs in Manhattan move across the Hudson because of the lower cost of living. The office towers really started popping up in the late '80s and early '90s to handle the "overflow" space from New York. There's demand to live in Jersey City because of the convenience and price.

Atlantic City's economy is almost entirely driven by tourism, especially from casino gambling. Despite the money from the casinos flowing into the city's coffers, this has done nothing to create any sort of economic resurgence in the rest of the city. Away from the boardwalk, much of the city is a for lack of a better or kinder word slum that lacks much real estate demand that would catalyze a revitalization. There's nowhere to commute to for a high-paying job in or near Atlantic City, unless you count Philadelphia, which is all the way across the state and the Delaware River and obviously not New York City. It's more of a tourist attraction than a truly viable place to live, more or less the opposite of Jersey City.

To put it more bluntly: if you had to choose between the two, where would you rather live?

AmeriKenArtist
December 7th, 2004, 08:11 AM
Jersey City, of course!