View Full Version : Earthquake-Tsunami Crisis

December 29th, 2004, 11:36 AM
Here (http://www.google.com/tsunami_relief.html) is a list of sites from Google with information on donations and relief.

TLOZ Link5
December 29th, 2004, 11:48 AM
My family donated. The death toll is now around 72,000.

December 29th, 2004, 12:44 PM
I gave to a couple of organizations I highly recommend and which have very high efficiency ratings from both Consumer Reports and Charity Navigator:

Direct Relief International
International Medical Corp
Doctors Without Borders
American Red Cross: International Response Fund

If you have friends or family birthdays coming up, an "In Honor" donation can be made to the Red Cross and International Medical Corps.

December 29th, 2004, 11:42 PM
If I may add one more organization, based here in New York City:
The International Rescue Committee (http://www.theirc.org/)
This organization consistently rates near the top or at the top of organizations in which aid goes directly to assistance and not to administrative overhead. They do no advertising. They have been spearheading efforts to assist displaced populations in Aceh since 2001.

December 30th, 2004, 04:23 PM
My family donated. The death toll is now around 72,000.

Just yesturday it was at 20,000 ---- :shock:

ohhh man - you just never know what's going to happen....

what a tragedy.... :(

December 30th, 2004, 06:16 PM
It's incredible. When I saw the first newsflash on TV Monday morning, I thought 17,000 was a misprint

Tsunami Toll Jumps to Over 125,000, Fear Lingers

1 hour, 29 minutes ago

By Tomi Soetjipto and Dean Yates

BANDA ACEH, Indonesia (Reuters) - Asia's tsunami death toll soared above 125,000 on Thursday as millions scrambled for food and clean water and rumors of new giant waves sent many fleeing inland in panic.

Aid agencies warned many more, from Indonesia to Sri Lanka, could die in epidemics if shattered communications and transport hampered what may prove history's biggest relief operation.

The death toll had shot up more than 50 percent in a day with still no clear picture of conditions in some remote villages as well as islands around India and Indonesia.

Rescue workers pressed on into isolated villages devastated by a disaster that could yet eclipse a cyclone that struck Bangladesh in 1991, killing 138,000 people.

People across the world opened their hearts and wallets to give millions of dollars to victims, jamming phone lines and web sites and outpacing their own governments in their generosity.

Britain's Disasters Emergency Committee said it had collected more than $39 million, less than a day after launching an appeal on behalf of 12 top British charities.

"It's quite a phenomenal response," a spokeswoman said.

Amazon.com collected $4.8 million in donations from online shoppers at its Web site.

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi called for an emergency Group of Eight meeting so the rich nations could discuss aid and possible debt reduction after "the worst cataclysm of the modern era." But Britain, which takes over the G8 leadership on Jan. 1, said no meeting was planned.

While villagers and fishermen suffered devastation, losses among foreign tourists, essential to local economies, mounted.

Prime Minister Goran Persson, his government under fire over its tardy response, said more than 1,000 Swedes may have died. Some 5,000 tourists, mostly Europeans, are still missing four days after walls of water devastated beach resorts.

Indonesia's Health Ministry said just under 80,000 people had died in the northern Aceh province that was close to the undersea quake, some 28,000 more than previously announced.


The airport of the main city, Banda Aceh, was busy with aid flights, but residents said little was getting through to them. Hungry crowds jostling for aid biscuits besieged people delivering them in the city. Some drivers dared not stop.

"Some cars come by and throw food like that. The fastest get the food, the strong one wins. The elderly and the injured don't get anything. We feel like dogs," said Usman, 43.

Residents of the city fled their homes when two aftershocks revived fresh memories of the worst earthquake in 40 years.

"I was sleeping, but fled outside in panic. If I am going to die, I will die here. Just let it be," said Kaspian, 26.

Rumors, unfounded, of another tsunami swept to the seaboard of Sri Lanka and India, highlighting the continued tension across the stricken region four days after the quake.

The Indian government issued a precautionary alert for all areas hit by Sunday's killer wave.

Police sirens blared on beaches in Tamil Nadu, one of the worst hit states in a country that has lost 13,000, as thousands streamed inland on foot or crammed any vehicle they could find. "Waves are coming, waves are coming," some shouted.

This time, however, the waves did not come.

There were similar scenes in Sri Lanka, where more than 27,000 have been killed. Thousands fled inland from the coast.

"This isn't just a situation of giving out food and water. Entire towns and villages need to be rebuilt from the ground up," said Rod Volway of CARE Canada, whose emergency team was one of the first into Aceh.

The World Bank offered $250 million in relief, bringing total international aid to nearly $500 million. Representatives of 18 U.N. agencies consulted and Secretary-General Kofi Annan held a video conference with members of a four-country coalition announced by President Bush on Wednesday.

David Nabarro, head of a World Health Organization crisis team, said as many as 5 million people were now unable to obtain the minimum they needed to live.

Many villages and resorts from Thailand to Indonesia are now mud-covered rubble, blanketed with the stench of corpses after the 9.0 magnitude quake.


In Indonesia, thousands of bodies rotting in the tropical heat were tumbled into mass graves. Health officials said polluted water posed a much greater threat than corpses.

Authorities warned of many deaths from dysentery, cholera and typhoid fever caused by contaminated food and water, and malaria and dengue fever carried by mosquitoes.

Indonesian aircraft dropped food to isolated areas in Aceh on northern Sumatra, an island the size of Florida.

In Sri Lanka's worst-hit area Ampara, residents ran things themselves, going round with megaphones, asking people to donate pots and pans, buckets of fresh water and sarongs.

"Frustration will be growing in the days and the weeks ahead," said U.N. emergency relief coordinator Jan Egeland.

The United States said a pledge of $35 million was just a start, and sent an aircraft carrier group toward Sumatra and other ships including a helicopter carrier to the Bay of Bengal.

A New York Times editorial, however, denounced the U.S. pledge as a "miserly drop in the bucket."

In the Thai resort turned graveyard of Khao Lak, the grim task of retrieving bodies was interrupted briefly when a tremor cleared the beach of people in a flash. In Thailand alone, at least 2,230 foreigners are known to have been killed.

Dutch, German and Swiss forensic teams flew to Thailand to help identify now hard-to-recognize bodies by collecting dental evidence, DNA samples, fingerprints, photographs and X-rays. Switzerland said 850 Swiss tourists were unaccounted for.

Preserving bodies was an urgent need and Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra promised to provide refrigerated containers.

For Australian mother-of-two Jillian Searle, who let go of her older son Lachie, 5, in a life-or-death decision as the wall of water struck, there was a happy ending.

Lachie was found alive about two hours later clinging to a door and, though traumatized by his ordeal, looked uninjured as his mother spoke to reporters on arrival back in Australia.

"I knew I had to let go of one of them and I just thought I'd better let go of the one that's the oldest," said Searle, who had then held on to two-year-old Blake in the Thai resort island of Phuket.

"And I was screaming, trying to find him, and we thought he was dead." (For more news on emergency relief visit Reuters AlertNet http://www.alertnet.org email: alertnet@reuters.com; +44 20 7542 2432)

Copyright 2004 Reuters Limited.

December 30th, 2004, 11:10 PM
Did animals have quake warning?

By Sue Nelson
BBC Science correspondent

Wildlife officials in Sri Lanka have reported that, despite the loss of human life in the Asian disaster, there have been no recorded animal deaths.
Waves from the worst tsunami in memory sent floodwater surging up to 3.5km (two miles) inland to the island's biggest wildlife reserve.

Many tourists drowned but, to the surprise of officials, no dead animals have been found.

It has highlighted claims that animals may possess a sixth sense about danger.

Yala National Park in Sri Lanka is home to elephants, deer, jackals and crocodiles.

Sensitive to change

Praised for its conservation, the park is also considered one of the best places in the world to observe leopards.

It is now closed after floods damaged buildings and caused the deaths of tourists and employees of the park and lodge.

Yet, surprisingly, none of the park's varied wildlife is reported to have perished.

Debbie Marter, who works on a wild tiger conservation programme on the Indonesian island of Sumatra, one of the worst-hit areas in Sunday's disaster, said she was not surprised to hear there were no dead animals.

"Wild animals in particular are extremely sensitive," she said.

"They've got extremely good hearing and they will probably have heard this flood coming into the distance.

"There would have been vibration and there may also have been changes in the air pressure which will have alerted animals and made them move to wherever they felt safer."

There are many eyewitness accounts of birds and animals migrating before earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.

The scientific evidence for a sixth sense is lacking, but if the reports are confirmed, they could add to the understanding of animal behaviour and possibly even be used in the future as an early warning system for humans.

Story from BBC NEWS:

January 5th, 2005, 11:01 PM
Before and After Satellite Images (http://www.digitalglobe.com/tsunami_gallery.html)

January 6th, 2005, 08:33 PM
I think/hope that it's only temporary flooding involved in the satellite pics.

January 6th, 2005, 09:13 PM
The interior areas are problably flooding, and may drain, but the areas bordering the open sea are eroded shoreline, and are gone.

January 7th, 2005, 09:35 AM
What do you have to say about this:
Did New York Orchestrate The Asian Tsunami?

Sounds like a big lie to me :x

January 7th, 2005, 10:22 AM
Complete garbage.

Right at the beginning, they state:

official American tsunami story
I didn't know that the U.S. controlled the entire worldwide reporting of the event. :roll: I thought the criticism was that we were slow to respond.

Nuclear bombs are powerful, but the energy released is puny compared to an earthquake.

The largest nuclear explosion was the 1954 test Castle Bravo, 20 megatons. 20 megatons is 1300 Hiroshima bombs. A 9.0 earthquake releases the energy of 25-30 Castle Bravos, or 32,500 - 39,000 Hroshimas.

January 7th, 2005, 10:29 AM
Yes - this must be just a try to get pepole's attention. They try to find facts but it is obviously not true.

January 19th, 2005, 10:04 AM
January 19, 2005

Tsunami deaths soar past 212,000

JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- The Indonesian Health Ministry said Wednesday that the December 26 earthquake and tsunami killed 166,320 people in Indonesia, jumping the regional death toll for the disaster to 212,611.

The Health Ministry said 6,245 people were still missing.

Meanwhile in Japan, the U.N. head of emergency relief warned that natural disaster in any of the world's largest cities could set off a catastrophe that could be 100 times worse than the Indian Ocean tsunami.

Speaking on the first day of a disaster prevention conference in the Japanese city of Kobe, Jan Egeland, the U.N. Director of Disaster Relief, said many of the world's megacities, including Tokyo, are extremely vulnerable to natural disasters.

"Perhaps the most frightening prospect would be to have a truly megadisaster in a megacity," he told delegates from 150 nations Tuesday in Kobe, where an earthquake killed nearly 6,500 people a decade ago.

"Then we could have not only a tsunami-style casualty rate as we have seen late last year, but we could see one hundred times that in a worst case."

The December 26 tsunami, triggered by a massive earthquake off the coast of Indonesia, killed close to 140,000 people in Asia and Africa, and tens of thousands are missing.

Megacities are densely concentrated cities, with a population of 10 million or more, and Egeland said time is running short for some of the largest cities in Asia, Africa and Latin America.

The five most populated cities in the world are the greater Tokyo area with 35.3 million people, Mexico City with 19 million, New York-Newark with 18.5 million and Bombay and Sao Paulo both with a population of 18.3 million, U.N. figures show.

The five-day conference to mark the 10th anniversary of the Kobe quake is also aiming to draw lessons from last month's quake and tsunamis.

Key to the meeting is laying the foundation for an Indian Ocean tsunami early warning system, similar to one set up in the Pacific.

The U.N. Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization has proposed a system in the Indian Ocean -- including offshore detection buoys and a communications center -- that would cost $30 million and go into operation by mid-2006.

Experts say well-placed breakwaters, quake-proof seawalls, detailed hazard maps showing danger areas and well-defined evacuation routes and shelters are also needed, according to The Associated Press.

In Tamil Nadu, the Indian state hit hardest by the tsunamis, more than 8,000 people died. Most of the victims lived along the state's lengthy coastline, and state officials are looking at ways to prevent natural disasters from exacting such a heavy toll in the future.

While deep-sea tsunami sensors and solid sea walls were among the proposals discussed, forest officials have suggested a simpler and cheaper alternative.

India's state government is now planning to plant 3 billion casuarina, coconut and cashew saplings along the entire coast after discovering that villages that survived were protected by forest cover.

The United Nations is also calling for the world's children to be educated in disaster reduction and prevention in the next 10 years.

Three weeks on

As experts talk about how to protect cities and nations against natural disasters, relief workers and militaries are trying to help the survivors and help rebuild communities three weeks after the tsunami struck.

A U.N. travel ban on aid workers in parts of the Indonesian province of Aceh has been lifted.

The United Nations had imposed a 24-hour ban on staff travel to specific regions because of security fears following reports of fighting between government forces and rebels in Aceh.

Indonesia's defense minister said the military is sending 5,000 more soldiers to the region to help with reconstruction efforts.

Sri Lanka is launching an extremely ambitious plan to rebuild parts of the country wiped out in the tsunami disaster.

By some estimates, almost two-thirds of Sri Lanka's coastal region was destroyed, including hundreds of thousands of homes.

The so-called "Rebuilding Nation" program is expected to cost $3.5 billion. It includes plans for constructing new townships, replanning transportation networks, and improving telecommunications infrastructure.

2005 Cable News Network LP, LLLP.

January 19th, 2005, 11:11 AM
Yes - this must be just a try to get pepole's attention. They try to find facts but it is obviously not true.

Don't be too quick to dismiss things like this. We are in an interesting time. It is a time of Thesis + Anti-thesis = Synthesis AKA Problem, Reaction, Solution.

One need only look at the state of the world and the economy to know, if not understand, that something is amiss. In the age of information technology, we also find ourselves in the age of Great Disinformation. I'm sure I'll get flamed, but each event that happens we need to look and see "who benefits?" Working from that point backwards, you can often see a series of events that created a "prefect storm".

I expect to get flamed on this, but you most clearly see it with our President and government. Our border with Mexico is gone and, even though we are in a "Financial Crisis" with social security, trade deficits and budget deficits, we are talking about providing services to illegal immigrants. Was a time, when hiring an illegal immigrant equalled a hefty fine or jail time. The American people are overwhelmingly the open border and granting of any kinds of rights to illegal aliens - but, strangely, the government is ignoring the people and moving forward - suddenly in the name of "human rights".

We cut taxes across the board, but with especially big cuts going to corporations. Somehow those tax cuts still equate to increased costs and a need to cut jobs, cut benefits and cut wages.

The insurance industry (a part of the financial industry) infiltrated our medical system, manipulated the sytem to its own benefits and now ten minutes with a doctor costs $225. A three day hospital stay is $30,000. A 10 cent pill in Canada cost $1.50 in the U.S.

We are in the age of diminishing energy (at least the old fossill fuels). Our government, is without doubt, in the process now of securing as much of the world's oil and gas reserves for American consumption. The policies of "debt forgiveness" being executed by the World Bank, IMF, and Industrial governments is a policy of debt forgiveness in return for exclusive unlimited access to the natural resources of these "third world countries". Look at what the World Bank did in Columbia. The offered a loan to stave off banruptcy and build "water purification plants", but the trade off was that the water was now a commodity that had to be paid for. People were forbidden from even collecting rainwater under penalty of the law. It ultimately failed when people rebelled against the plan.

It is happening with bio-engineering. The multinational corporations are "creating" genetically altered seeds. These seeds can then be patented. Plain old seeds are being methodically withdrawn from agricultural markets and these new seeds introduced. Ultimately, people will not be able to grow their own food without paying royalties or huge prices for this "new" seed.

I'm not one given to conspiracy theories, but our government is NOT looking out for the interests of the citzenry. It is happening across the globe. We are in the midst of a huge debt scam.

Banks are able to lend 16 - 33 times their reserves and charge interest on it. Those loans are given with money that does not even exist. Is anyone aware that the Federal Reserve is a private bank - not a branch of the federal government? Is anyone aware that our government does not issue its own money? We have to go to outside lenders to find funding. Why is it that in order to buy a home, we have to pay three or four times the actual cost when interest is figured in?

The "Free" Market that we deregulated everything to stimulate is the "Slave" Market. It has sucked all of the money and wealth out of the economy and now it is forcing the reduction / elimination of the most needs - healthcare, housing, food.

When people wake up to what is happening, perhaps something can be done. But, our minds are overtaken by those same forces through the bombardment of media - which the folks with ALL the money own and control.

It is just incredible to me that intelligent people are accepting blindly "official" reports of what is going on. LOOK AT THE WORLD! LOOK AT OUR GOVERNMENT! We must start asking questions.

For example, how does a $104Billion budget for the State of NY not have enough money to fund healthcare and housing for the poor? WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING? Debt reduction, interest on loans - the money is being sucked out of ourpockets and into the pockets of the very, very elite. Prove THAT wrong.

January 20th, 2005, 09:31 PM
Don't look at it geo-politically.

Look at it geo-thermally.