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alex ballard
December 30th, 2004, 11:20 AM
What do you think the future of the Outer Borough neighborhoods that are not close the Manhattan be? Will areas like Eastern Queens, Northern Bronx, Southern Brooklyn and The south shore of Staten Island see changes or growth over the next 20-50 years? Do you invision increased immigration and the continued outflow from Manhattan will dramtically change the More suburban sections of the outer boroughs?

BrooklynRider
December 30th, 2004, 01:09 PM
Inland I doubt it. The greatest potential for transformative growth in any of the boroughs are in areas along the waterfront. The Coney Island Peninsula - DEFINITELY - especially with the new subway terminal. You don't build a $250million terminal to no where.

I think the Rockaways are heating up - but traffic, in my opinion, is going to make that property red-hot when the first celeb rents eastward (as Derek Jeter did last summer by renting a penthouse in Long Beach, Long Island, NY). I'm not sure if he is still sitting on it, but, if I'm not mistaken, Trump had bought up a lot of the beachfront Rockaway properties in anticipation of the now-failed casino gambling. The area has public transit for service workers, and airport nearby for the jet-set, a heliport can be easily built, and there are really no neighbors south of the El.

billyblancoNYC
December 30th, 2004, 02:12 PM
Inland I doubt it. The greatest potential for transformative growth in any of the boroughs are in areas along the waterfront. The Coney Island Peninsula - DEFINITELY - especially with the new subway terminal. You don't build a $250million terminal to no where.

I think the Rockaways are heating up - but traffic, in my opinion, is going to make that property red-hot when the first celeb rents eastward (as Derek Jeter did last summer by renting a penthouse in Long Beach, Long Island, NY). I'm not sure if he is still sitting on it, but, if I'm not mistaken, Trump had bought up a lot of the beachfront Rockaway properties in anticipation of the now-failed casino gambling. The area has public transit for service workers, and airport nearby for the jet-set, a heliport can be easily built, and there are really no neighbors south of the El.

Agreed. Also on the beach...there was even an article in the Post saying that Manhattanites are not only moving to the Oceana development in Brighton Beach, but are buying 2nd homes there b/c they are sick of travelling to the Hamptons, etc. I see this as a major possibility in the future.

As far as the more "suburban" areas of the city, they are growing. In fact, most of them are trying to (or already have) downzone...so the growth will subside and the suburban feel will be preserved. There has been talk that NE Queens, ie. Bayside, Whitestone, etc. is starting to see a small pick-up in Manhattanites due to it's proximity to the city, good neighborhoods, great schools, low property taxes. I see this coming in the future, especially as the Manhattan firms expand (Elliman just bought a brokerage in Flushing and Coldwell Banker bought the largest Queens broker in Fresh Meadows).

muscle1313
December 31st, 2004, 10:52 AM
Cool, Everybody is thinking my way now! Brooklyn Beaches!!!!

alex ballard
April 3rd, 2005, 05:15 PM
Do you see today's and tomorrow's immigrants rasing their children within the city? Can newly gentrified areas in Manhattan and the Outer Boroughs become areas where people can settle down and rasie kids? There is an article in SSP.com that says that many cities are losing kids, can NY hold on to them? Will these "Hipsters" become city parents?

BrooklynRider
April 4th, 2005, 08:53 AM
I received a self-congratulating newsletter from the eternal blowhard, Marty Markowitz. In it, he claims to be fighting to preserve "suburban Brooklyn". He wants to "protect it" from over development.

Total blowhard. I don't know who's running against this guy next election, but I'll actively campaign for him or her.

billyblancoNYC
April 4th, 2005, 04:26 PM
Marty's the man.