Horvath Tower (?)

[Gulcrapek]

http://www.keaneodell.com/images/horvath_01.gif

http://www.keaneodell.com

[billyblancoNYC]

Um, yes please.

[Derek2k3]

That looks awesome. Seems to be in the East 20's, wish there was more info.

[Stern]

awww, such a cute, little tower.

[krulltime]

Yeah I like it, small but cute. Here is another rendering on the website:

http://www.keaneodell.com/images/horvath_02.gif

[RedFerrari360f1]

ThAt building is amazingly awesome!

[DougGold]

Can someone explain to me what I'm looking at? It looks great, but what is it? And is it a 'go' project?

[Gulcrapek]

Judging by the responses here, nobody knows.

[Archit_K]

It passes for aesthetics. :shock:

[Derek2k3]

Here's another version by BM Design Group. The address is 420 Park Ave South.

http://www.bmdga.com/Projects_Layout/Commercial/420_im_1.jpg http://www.bmdga.com/Projects_Layout/Commercial/420_im_2.jpg

[TonyO]

There is a lot being developed on 23rd that I walked by during the strike, not sure if it was park south or not. Does anyone know if there is another development on 23/3rd or 23rd/2nd?

[krulltime]

^ I posted this earlier... here is what is happening at 23rd...


October 2005

Condos line East 23rd Street's concrete canyon
Area catches boost from rise of both Madison Square Park and Murray Hill


By Steve Cutler

In a real estate market that moves so fast it creates trendy neighborhoods virtually overnight, announcements from two important developers put the East 23rd Street corridor near the top of the list to be the next hot area for condo development.

Plans are in place for a mammoth luxury condominium at Third Avenue at 23rd Street, to be built by Morton Square and Cielo developer J. D. Carlisle Development Corp. And a team is in place to design and build an ultra-luxury tower at a half-block site on First Avenue and 23rd Street owned by Victor Homes, developer of Lumiere.

In the shadow of the Flatiron Building at Fifth Avenue, Madison Square Park and an expanding Chelsea to the west, the East 23rd Street corridor has been a nondescript, somewhat funky conglomeration of low-rise walk-ups or single-elevator commercial buildings and a few high-rise residences built between 1960 and the late 1980s. But its Murray Hill environs are filling with just the sort of folks developers covet.

"We built and own Kips Bay Plaza," says Jules Demchick, president of J. D. Carlisle, "and we know who goes to the movies there: young professionals, between 30 and 42 or 43. This is not pioneering by any stretch of the imagination. We had a real feel for the flow and the age group in that area."

Scheduled for construction starting early 2006, the 21-story building, spanning the entire block between 23rd and 24th streets on Third Avenue, will offer 292 condominium apartments in studio and one- and two-bedroom layouts. Perkins Eastman architects will design the building, as they did the Cielo at 83rd Street and York Avenue for Carlisle.

A collector of glass sculpture, Demchick has commissioned artist Tom Patti to create an original glass work for the building's lobby. Patti's work also adorns the lobby at Morton Square.

The Victor Homes project on First Avenue brings the Richard Meier-style glass curtain wall to the project near the East River at 23rd Street. Randy Gerner, principal of GKV Architects, is designing the building, which will be a companion piece to the Post Luminaria, a Late Modern-style luxury rental building he designed at 23rd Street and First Avenue for the Clarett Group and Post Properties, which was completed in 2002. The Luminaria has floor-to-ceiling glass windows, encased in sandblasted matte glass.

"This is high end, with no expense spared, letting us go to the next level, with a technological control system of services within the apartment," says Michael Shvo, its marketing agent.

The 23-story building will offer more than 200 apartments, ranging from 400 to 2,500 square feet, including duplex penthouses. Construction will begin around the end of this year and sales are expected to start in the first quarter of 2006, well before completion in the middle of 2007.

If the sales at Crossing 23rd, a full-service luxury condominium at 121 East 23rd Street, are any indication, newly constructed apartments on the corridor should fly off the shelf. The building came to market in January.

"We had over a thousand inquiries the first day of opening and we had only 95 units," recalls Shlomi Reuveni, a senior vice president at the Corcoran Group and the building's sales agent. "Seventy percent sold within three months."

Perhaps the most interesting aspect of the success of Crossing 23rd is that it lies on one of the most marginal stretches of East 23rd Street.

According to Daniel Baum of newly founded rental firm the Real Estate Group, whose office is just across the street from the building, "It's a funny block. You have a methadone clinic on the block and when I come into work in the morning I smell urine in our doorway. Yet, directly across from me is the ultra-modern luxury 121 East 23rd Street, which was just built and sold out."

SL Green Realty Corp. announced in March that it would pay $918 million for One Madison Avenue at the southwest corner of the newly renovated Madison Square Park at 23rd Street and intends to convert its 41-story landmark tower into condominiums. Also, there are plans to convert the International Toy Center and 50 Madison Avenue, which both face the park.


Copyright © 2003-2005 The Real Deal.

[TonyO]

^ Thanks for reposting that Krulltime. 21 stories on that corner (23st/3av) is going to be really tall.

[krulltime]

Crossing23rd (121 East 23rd Street):


http://www.corcoran.com/property/nd/photo/crossing23rd.jpg

[Eugenius]

Exposed floor plates - true luxury...

[BrooklynRider]

Thanks for a my laugh out loud moment today.

[londonlawyer]

Here's another version by BM Design Group. The address is 420 Park Ave South.

http://www.bmdga.com/Projects_Layout/Commercial/420_im_1.jpg http://www.bmdga.com/Projects_Layout/Commercial/420_im_2.jpg

There's a crappy looking one story bank on that corner now. This would be a nice replacement.

Hopefully, the great looking building on Park Ave. So and 28th (?) by de Pontzmarc will be built too.

[antinimby]

Yes, that does look nice (for a change). Looks a like a mini - 5 TS (Ernst & Young building).

Hopefully, the great looking building on Park Ave. So and 28th (?) by de Pontzmarc will be built too.Yes, Yes, definitely. It's been so long but how can we forget?

http://www.handelarchitects.com/project/400x300/400ParkLookNorth.jpg
http://www.handelarchitects.com/project/400x300/400parkelev.jpg
http://www.handelarchitects.com/project/400x300/400parkaerial.jpg
http://www.handelarchitects.com/project/400x300/400parkstreet.jpg

400 Park Avenue South

Location: New York, NY
Facility: Residential, Retail
Size: 450,000 SF
Cost: $80 Million
Status: Design Development

Design Architect: Atelier Christian de Portzamparc

Architect of Record: Handel Architects

This residential tower on Manhattan’s East Side is currently in Design Development and recently won Department of City Planning and Community Board approval. The 40-story tower is comprised of 432 rental apartments ranging from studios to three-bedrooms. A subway entrance and retail space occupy the ground floor, while a fitness club and kids’ center are located on the second floor. The exterior of the building is faceted glass curtainwall.

http://www.handelarchitects.com/

[Fabrizio]

420 South: I´m wondering how long it will take for the trend of diagonal slashes´n slices to look dated. Here it looks like a me-too effort.

[londonlawyer]

Yes, that does look nice (for a change). Looks a like a mini - 5 TS (Ernst & Young building).

Yes, Yes, definitely. It's been so long but how can we forget?

http://www.handelarchitects.com/project/400x300/400ParkLookNorth.jpg
http://www.handelarchitects.com/project/400x300/400parkelev.jpg
http://www.handelarchitects.com/project/400x300/400parkaerial.jpg
http://www.handelarchitects.com/project/400x300/400parkstreet.jpg

400 Park Avenue South

Location: New York, NY
Facility: Residential, Retail
Size: 450,000 SF
Cost: $80 Million
Status: Design Development

Design Architect: Atelier Christian de Portzamparc

Architect of Record: Handel Architects

This residential tower on Manhattan’s East Side is currently in Design Development and recently won Department of City Planning and Community Board approval. The 40-story tower is comprised of 432 rental apartments ranging from studios to three-bedrooms. A subway entrance and retail space occupy the ground floor, while a fitness club and kids’ center are located on the second floor. The exterior of the building is faceted glass curtainwall.

http://www.handelarchitects.com/

Antinimby,

Is that new info that you posted for 400 Park Ave. So.? I hope that this building starts moving soon. It's beautiful!

[pianoman11686]

400 Park Avenue has been on the boards for a while now. There hasn't been any news on it recently, though. I wonder if the $80 million dollar price tag isn't an error.

[antinimby]

Is that new info that you posted for 400 Park Ave. So.? I hope that this building starts moving soon. It's beautiful!
I hope so, too.
The info is not new. The latest news tidbit I could dig up dates back to May 2005 and doesn't offer any new info:

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http://www.therealdeal.net/issues/May_2005/1114630199.php

400 Park Avenue South
A 40-story tower comprised of 432 rental apartments ranging from studios to three-bedrooms is planned on the site of a parking lot. The project at 28th Street is being designed by Handel Architects and Atelier Christian de Portzamparc, and was approved by the Department of City Planning and local Community Board, though work has not yet begun. A subway entrance and retail space will occupy the ground floor, while a fitness club and kids' center will be located on the second floor.
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As you can see, there is no indication that it won't happen. A fantastic design, ground floor retail on Park Ave. and a SUBWAY ENTRANCE!
If this isn't the ideal NY building, I don't know what is.
They gotta build it.
It'll be an instant success.

[Derek2k3]

There seems to be no thread on 400 Park Avenue South.

400 Park Avenue South
398-402 Park Avenue/ 42-48 East 28th Street
40 stories 475.53 feet (DOB: 415')
Atelier Christian de Portzamparc/ Handel Architects LLP
A&R Kalimian Realty
Residential Rental
476,185 Sq. Ft. 342/400 units
Proposed 2008

http://static.flickr.com/71/171892223_d239a8f76d_o.jpg
Handel Architects LLP (http://www.handelarchitects.com/main.html#1.0.0.7)

[Kris]

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5236

[Derek2k3]

ah, thanks.
I even posted in it already.

[antinimby]

Whatever happened to this one?
Here's another version by BM Design Group. The address is 420 Park Ave South.

http://www.bmdga.com/Projects_Layout/Commercial/420_im_1.jpg http://www.bmdga.com/Projects_Layout/Commercial/420_im_2.jpg

[macreator]

Whatever happened to this one?

I doubt anyone knows. This project has been stalled for a couple years now.

[londonlawyer]

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/08/22/business/23hotel.650.1.jpg

Square Feet

"Counting on a Hotel to Make a Neighborhood Hot"

By C. J. HUGHES
Published: August 22, 2007

To understand how the meatpacking district in downtown Manhattan was transformed from an obscure collection of a few bistros and boutiques scattered among beef-filled warehouses to a hot residential, commercial and entertainment destination, consider Michael Achenbaum’s explanation.

Stephen B. Jacobs Group
A developer is betting that his Gansevoort Park hotel, above, can replicate the success of his Hotel Gansevoort in Manhattan.

The area around Park Avenue South and East 29th Street.
One crucial event, he said, was the debut of the Hotel Gansevoort in March 2004 at West 13th Street and Ninth Avenue. After that, he said, the neighborhood suddenly seemed to have a lot more electricity.

Mr. Achenbaum is not entirely objective, of course; he was the hotel’s developer. But the opening of his 13-story 187-room glass-and-steel property, which cost $70 million to build, was a relatively early signal to other investors about the area’s potential.

In addition, the building’s distinctive rooftop bar and pool, open to nonguests, were almost instantly trendy and heightened the buzz about the neighborhood.

Now Mr. Achenbaum, a principal of WSA Management, based in Garden City on Long Island, hopes to copy that neighborhood-fostering success with a new hotel, Gansevoort Park, at the southwestern corner of Park Avenue South and East 29th Street. It is to be developed with Centurion Realty, whose portfolio includes four million square feet of residential and commercial properties, including 12 other New York buildings.

The hurdles, though, might be more daunting, since the area — squeezed between Murray Hill and the Flatiron District, with an unremarkable hodgepodge of phone stores, pharmacies and 16-story offices — does not have a catchy name, or much cachet.

Still, Mr. Achenbaum is thinking splashy, and big: a 19-story glass-and-limestone building with 225 rooms, which will cost $200 million. (The financing is being provided by HSH Nordbank, a German commercial bank, and was locked in before the current credit crisis, he said.)

A wide 150-foot-tall glass column containing light-emitting diodes will display mutating colors along the corner of the building’s facade, in a nod to four similar 15-foot columns at the Hotel Gansevoort.

Gansevoort Park’s top three floors, open to the public, will cover 8,000 square feet. They will include bars, decks and a pool, though the exact configuration is being kept secret, Mr. Achenbaum said, to prevent a competitor from trying to install a similar feature before the hotel is finished in the spring of 2009.

Guest-only areas will include a 3,500-square-foot catering space on the third floor, an outdoor deck and a 2,000-square-foot mezzanine-level spa.

A 10,000-square-foot glass-fronted restaurant space on the sidewalk level, meanwhile, will be leased by Prime One Twelve, a New York offshoot of a Miami Beach steakhouse, though Mr. Achenbaum would not discuss the terms.

He would say, though, that he hopes to get $200 a square foot in annual rent for an adjacent two-floor 1,800-square-foot retail space, preferably from a clothing store.

The hotel site, which encompasses seven parcels that wrap around the corner, now holds a series of low-slung drab buildings, with street-level tenants that include a shoe store, a French restaurant and a bank. Demolition is to start next month, Mr. Achenbaum said.

Gansevoort Park is likely to attract a different clientele than the midmarket hotels that dot the surrounding blocks. Many were built at the turn of the last century, when this neighborhood was a thriving hotel district.

Similar-size hotels, like Hotel Thirty Thirty, which offers 253 rooms at 30 East 30th Street, or the Carlton, with 316 rooms at 88 Madison Avenue, charge about $250 a night for rooms on summer weekends.

Gansevoort Park’s rooms, meanwhile, will cost about twice that.

If the Park Avenue South area is underserved by luxury hotels, so is New York City over all, and the time is right to build them, said Daniel Lesser, a senior managing director with CB Richard Ellis and a specialist in hospitality real estate.

In the last few years, conversions of hotels into condominiums have claimed more than 2,000 rooms in Manhattan, Mr. Lesser said, and the city is poised to lose almost that many more, with the imminent closing of the Hotel Pennsylvania, near Madison Square Garden, which has 1,700 rooms.

Strong demand for New York’s existing 67,000 rooms has meant an average weekly occupancy rate in the last year of 82 percent, according to Smith Travel Research, a lodging industry data provider based in Hendersonville, Tenn. In practical terms, this means weekend nights are usually completely booked, said Jan Freitag, a vice president.

By comparison, Miami, which also attracts a mix of business and leisure travelers, is filling 76 percent of its hotel rooms, while San Francisco is at 72 percent.

“Any new hotel makes sense, because the city clearly needs rooms,” said Mr. Lesser, without commenting on the Gansevoort Park specifically. “And this goes for every submarket, river to river, from 125th Street to Lower Manhattan.”

Gradually, developers seem to be responding. About 8,000 rooms are now under construction, which would be a 12 percent increase, according to Smith Travel. Some, like Gansevoort Park, are planned for traditionally underserved areas; other neighborhoods that have been identified as prime sites are the Bowery and Harlem.

Although Gansevoort Park’s developers may sell some rooms as condos, for now they are focused on making the property a round-the-clock business, they said.

It is critical, then, that they attract those who work in the area, at employers like Credit Suisse First Boston, which has large offices at 1 and 11 Madison Avenue, about five blocks away, said Nathan Gindi, vice president of Centurion Realty, which is based in Manhattan.

“We want people to come in for lunch and after work, not just check in and out,” he said. “We want this to be a destination.”

[lofter1]

That ugly Pile Of Stuff ^^^ is as bad (if not worse) for the area of Park Avenue South than the Hotel Gansevoort is / was for the Meat Packing District.

This penchant for glass balconies :eek:

When will that ^^^ tired fad come to an end (particularly when poorly executed is is shown here) :confused:

And Achenbaum has proven himself to be a greedy Piece of Scum with his two Gansevoort billboards (AschenScum?).

[dbhstockton]

Ow. Hurts to look at.......



Ow. Yep, still hurts.