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ltjbukem73
February 27th, 2005, 06:08 PM
at park place and flatbush, here's a multi story new residential condo development:

http://www.lausterradu.com/index.php?cat=1&sec=3&prj=11&pag=117

it's financing provided by magic johnson's company:
http://www.cjuf.com/2003-04-15%20Park%20Place.pdf

Gulcrapek
February 27th, 2005, 06:24 PM
By Anderson & Associates, who have taken down their site (anderassoc.com). It's topped out since at least yesterday, no facade on the Flatbush side yet.

edit: Apparently the site's back...

hilz
March 8th, 2005, 07:47 PM
Can anyone help me out-
I am looking to buy a COndo 1 to 2 bedrooms
Slope area for $400K

Anything exist??
Thanks
In Advance

Derek2k3
March 11th, 2005, 02:34 PM
Project # 1

Park Place Condominium
145 Park Place
8 stories 80 feet
Lauster Radu Architects/Tom Anderson of Anderson Associates
Dev-Anderson Associates
Residential Condominiums
47 units 101,000 Sq. Ft.
Under Construction 2003-2005

http://www.lausterradu.com/projects/11/63.jpeg

http://www.lausterradu.com/projects/11/117.jpeg
Photo Credits: Mihai Radu Architects / Lauster & Radu Architects


Daily News
Tale of two condos
By HUGH SON
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Call it the Jekyll-and-Hyde condo.

http://www.nydailynews.com/boroughs/story/198132p-171107c.html

A new apartment building with a dual personality is rising on the former site of the Brooklyn Gospel Tabernacle in Park Slope. At eight stories, it will instantly become one the tallest structures on busy Flatbush Ave.

On the side facing Park Place - a leafy, landmarked residential block replete with gas lanterns - plans call for the new structure to blend in with century-old brownstones.

But the side facing Flatbush Ave. will be a modern, all-glass and aluminum facade that will tower over the neighboring row houses and stores on the commercial strip.

"It's unlike anything else on Flatbush," declared architect and developer Tom Anderson, president of the real estate firm Anderson Associates. "It's a very dramatic facade, all glass and aluminum, and I thought it would be fun."

The 47-unit building, tentatively named Park Place Condominiums, is due to be completed in April. Anderson expects the average 1,200-square-foot apartment will fetch $660,000.

"This building goes out of its way to acknowledge the historic value of the community, but it also goes out of its way to enliven a pretty dreary portion of Flatbush Ave.," Anderson said. "I hope it will be appreciated as an architectural statement."

Neighbors of the new building, however, aren't so sure they'll appreciate Anderson's statement.

"My first impression was that I didn't like it," said a neighborhood homeowner who didn't want her name used.

"I'm not opposed to modernist structures going up in brownstone Brooklyn, but this didn't feel right to me."

Jennifer Rawe, president of the Park Place Association of Neighbors, said that Anderson Associates has been attentive to the group's concerns thus far.

The building's Park Place facade will be covered with real brownstone stucco and will have a unique setback that visually conceals the top three floors - design aspects that Anderson said neighbors requested.

But Rawe cited the noise of demolition and an exodus of rats from the ruins of the old church and onto Park Place as the two main gripes being voiced by neighbors.

The Park Place Condominium is the latest example of new construction projects in ultra-hot Park Slope.

With real estate values in the neighborhood near historic highs, developers are snapping up any land available to build apartments, said Hal Lehrman Jr., co-owner of Brooklyn Properties.

However, the new condo development hasn't been free of road bumps. The project's contractor, HRH Construction, was issued two violations for failing to post signs and provide approved plans during a Feb. 24 inspection, according to Jennifer Givner, spokeswoman for the Department of Buildings.

A $3,500 bill must be paid before the building is awarded a certificate of occupancy, she said.


Park Place Condominiums is going to have two fronts. Side facing Park Place is going up first and will have a facade (below) that blends in with brownstones. Side facing Flatbush Ave. will have modern glass and aluminum facade (3rd photo).

Originally published on May 30, 2004



Wired New York thread here:
http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4906

Other links
http://newyork.construction.com/news/building/archive/2005/02.asp
http://www.anderassoc.com
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=30343
http://www.brooklyneagle.com/archive/brooklyn_space.php?id=1917
http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobDetailsServlet?requestid=5&allisn=0000980819&allboroughname=&allnumbhous=145&allstrt=PARK+PLACE&s=DCB051D04D4345256F48D12433631AE6

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/40682208.jpg
Photo from Fall 2004. I'll post new ones later.

Derek2k3
March 11th, 2005, 03:05 PM
Project # 2

Lumber Yard Condominium
565-569 Carroll Street
4 stories 55 feet
Scarano & Associates Architects
Dev-Anthony Guarna
Residential Condominiums
18 units
Completed October 2003

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/40682882.jpg

Scarano & Associates Architects

http://www.scaranoarchitects.com/multifamily2.html

The Lumber Yard Condominium is located on tree-lined Carroll Street in the Park Slope section of Brooklyn, New York.

The Condominium is comprised of 18 beautifully appointed residential units including such amenities as central air conditioning, strip white oak hardwood flooring, pre-wiring for telephone and television, elegant kitchens and baths, laundry facility, gardens and roof terraces, handsome natural stone floor entry and more!

565-569 Carroll Street is located in the P.S. 321 school district and only five blocks from the school. The N, R, M - Union Street Subway Station entrance is one block from the building and the F Station approximately 9 blocks. Prospect Park, Brooklyn Botanic Garden, Brooklyn Museum are all within walking distance!

Up the block from the property is Fifth Avenue, with the best and hippest of Park Slope’s nightlife. Restaurants, bars, and cafes line the Avenue as well as boutiques, carrying everything from high priced antiques to used children’s clothing and accessories. All the requisite conveniences and luxuries are within blocks of the site.

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/40682891.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/40682890.jpg


Can anyone help me out-
I am looking to buy a COndo 1 to 2 bedrooms
Slope area for $400K

Anything exist??
Thanks
In Advance
Brown Harris Stevens

http://www.brownharrisstevens.com/detail.aspx?id=347093
LUMBER YARD CONDOMINIUM

This is one of two units left in this 18-unit new condominium building, The Lumberyard Condominiums. It is on the second floor of a 4 story walk-up in prime Park Slope. The apartment faces south. There is no storage in the building. Close to all shops and the N and R trains.

Listing ID: 347093
Type: Condominium
Price: $495,000
Maintenance/CC: $193
Monthly real estate tax: $58
Approx. square footage: 760


Rooms: 4.0
Bedrooms: 2
Bathrooms: 1.0


Period: Pre-War
Building Type: Hirise

BrooklynRider
March 11th, 2005, 04:53 PM
The "Pre War" period would be an error, unless it's "Pre-War with Iran & Syria." Also, it is not a highrise.

arbeiter
March 11th, 2005, 05:17 PM
Can anyone help me out-
I am looking to buy a COndo 1 to 2 bedrooms
Slope area for $400K

Anything exist??
Thanks
In Advance

They do - you can find something as long as you're not irrational about being on 7th, 8th, PPW, or north of 9th street.

Try 5th ave, 4th ave, or south slope (prospect ave area) or windsor terrace.

Derek2k3
March 15th, 2005, 02:05 PM
Project # 3

28 Garfield Place
28-32 Garfield Place
5 stories 55 feet (4 story addition)
Bernard J. Doyle Architect
Dev-Rue Premier Development Ltd.
Residential
16 units 17,508 Sq. Ft.
Completed Late 2004

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/40845171.jpg
Couldn't find any other info on it.

More photos in these WNY threads:
http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4689
http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3671

Derek2k3
March 16th, 2005, 01:25 PM
Project # 4

Prospect Gardens
249 & 251 16th Street
4 stories 40 feet
Rothzeid Kaiserman Thomson & Bee, P.C.
Dev-CPC Resources Inc.
Residential Condominiums
8 units 10,186 Sq. Ft.
Completed 2003

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/40878460.jpg

http://www.aiany.org/designawards/2004/architecture/jpegs/326a.jpg
http://www.aiany.org/designawards/2004/architecture/arch7.htm


http://www.corcoran.com/property/nd/photo/ProspectGardExt.jpg


Corcoran: Prospect Gardens
249 & 251 16th Street
Brooklyn,NY11215

http://www.corcoran.com/property/nd/detail_fr_overview.asp?ndevid=75

Overview
Brand new four story buildings on 16th Street between 5th and 6th Avenues in Park Slope. The building offers layouts as well as duplex and garden apartments. The 4th floor spaces are adorned skylights on the mezzanine levels, while 1st floor units enjoy handsome courtyard landscaping.

Amenities
1-2 bedrooms + dens, duplexes, private gardens, skylights, mezzanine levels, granite counter tops, maple hardwood cabinets, high-end brushed steel appliances, video intercom systems and washer and dryer hook-ups


http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/40878459.jpg

Derek2k3
March 26th, 2005, 12:03 PM
Project # 5

The Shinnecock Condominiums/Shinnecock Tower
937-939 Union Street
16 stories 145 feet
Anderson & Associates/Hugo Subotovsky
Dev-Union Development Group, LLC
Residential Condominium
22 units 49,210 Sq. Ft.
Completed 2001-June 2003

http://www.anderassoc.com/images/portfolio/shin_d01.jpg

http://www.anderassoc.com/images/portfolio/shin_d02.jpg
Lobby


Anderson Associates:The Shinnecock
939 Union Street, Brooklyn NY 11217

http://www.anderassoc.com/portfolio/shinnecock.shtml

The Shinnecock is the first new building to be constructed around Prospect Park since the 1960's. This striking, 16-story condominium will present a level of service and quality of finishes unequalled anywhere in Brooklyn.

The Shinnecock offers family-sized half floor, two bedroom residences of over 1,200 square feet and full floor, three bedroom residences comprising 1,800 to 2,400 square feet. For those requiring even more space, there are two rare triplex maisonettes with six bedrooms, as well as two spectacular triplex penthouses with private roof terraces. Many residences afford spectacular views of the harbor, the river and the glittering City skyline.

Ideally situated around the corner from The Montauk Club in the most sought-after area of Park Slope, The Shinnecock is surrounded by historic brownstones, stately pre-war apartments and Brooklyn's finest selection of quality shops and superior restaurants. The building's proximity to the major transportation hub at nearby Grand Army Plaza allows for an expeditious commute to Manhattan.

Anderson Associates has acted as developer and construction manager for the project. Among the many challenges faced with this project, none were as daunting as overcoming local community opposition. In spite of the fact that this project has enhanced local property values significantly, delays of over one year were the result of legal actions taken against the project. These actions were all successfully overcome and the project is slated for a fall 2002 grand opening.

Building Features
Doorman/Concierge service
Sumptuous lobby finished in exotic marble, brushed nickel, dark walnut and mosaic tile
Striking limestone and brick façade
Rear garden enclave
Common meeting and activities room
Private storage
High speed elevator service, individually keyed for floor-thru units
Superb access to local transportation, parking and Prospect Park

Residence Features
Luxurious finishes and appointments
Wide plank maple flooring
Individual heating and air conditioning controls
High-speed Internet access
Video intercom
Fireplaces in penthouse units
Breathtaking river, harbor and skyline views from many residences

Kitchens
Elegant cherrywood cabinetry
Granite countertops
Slate and ceramic tile flooring
Top line GE appliances
Asko washers and dryers
Brushed nickel hardware

Bathrooms
Buff limestone walls and flooring
Jacuzzi tubs in master baths
Kohler toilet and fixtures
Marble powder rooms


http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/41252459.jpg

Links
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=140027
http://www.condosinbrooklyn.com/shinnecock.htm
http://www.hugosuboarchitects.com/mf2.html
http://www.anderassoc.com/about/n_200109.shtml
http://www.brooklyneagle.com/archive/brooklyn_space.php?id=236
http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobDetailsServlet?requestid=2&allisn=0000642098&allboroughname=&allnumbhous=939&allstrt=UNION+STREET&s=DCB051D04D4345256F48D12433631AE6

Gulcrapek
March 27th, 2005, 06:09 PM
Re: 28 Garfield Place, the restaurant my sister sometimes works at is a block away. I saw that thing go up and was pretty disappointed. The facade is painted concrete or something and there's no detailing and no color variation anywhere.

Derek2k3
March 29th, 2005, 03:00 AM
Project #6

103 St. Marks Place
4 stories 56 feet
Mark Gould Architects
Dev-Millennium Construction Corp.
Residential Condominium
2 units 5,290 Sq. Ft.
Completed 2002-2004

http://thedevelopersgroup.com/images/building/bld_1010_dt.jpg

103 St. Marks Place
103 St. Marks Pl. Brooklyn, NY 11217

http://thedevelopersgroup.com/buildings/building.aspx?buildingid=1010&

Soho-design coupled with 5,000 square feet of space makes the most amazing 2 unit condominium built in Park Slope. The lower triplex is 2,425 sqft and features 3-bedrooms, 3.5 baths, a lofted double-height living room, oversized windows, dramatic staircases and a large private backyard. The kitchen is top of the line and the master suite comes complete with a five-piece bathroom. The upper triplex is 2,412 sqft features 3bedrooms, 3.5 baths, a lofted double-height living room, oversized windows, dramatic staircases and two large private terra-paved roof deck.

Amenities

Private outdoor spaces including roof terraces and private gardens
Central heating and air conditioning
Washer and dryers in each unit

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/41383844.jpg

Derek2k3
March 29th, 2005, 03:08 AM
Project #7

9 Prospect Place
4 stories 40 feet
James Harwood
Dev-James Harw0od
Residential Condominium
2 units 2,700 Sq. Ft.
Completed 1999-2000

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/41383957.jpg

Gulcrapek
April 5th, 2005, 06:15 PM
8 by 8
4 floors, 16 units (permit says 8)
Van Brody Architects

"This beautifully situated exclusive new building consists of 16 generously sized family homes. Finished to the highest standards and touched with luxury, these apartments feature large outdoor spaces and breathtaking views of the Manhattan skyline. The opulent penthouses are highlighted by loft style ceilings and every aspect designed with only the best craftsmanship. A prime location, close to shopping and transportation to Manhattan, this building is destined to be a fast sellout. "

http://www.thedevelopersgroup.com/buildings/building.aspx?buildingid=1034&

Gulcrapek
April 12th, 2005, 03:53 PM
284, 286 20th Street
4 floors, 55 ft
8 units
Dev: Pat Fierro
Scarano & Associates
Approved
http://www.scaranoarchitects.com > multifamily

"Two 25 X 100 lots allow the creation of twin buildings. The facades of each were not duplicated, but rather were designed to compliment each other and create the look of a single structure and clean, simple lines help reinforce the modernist look.
Two colors of brick masonry, metal panel and glass make up the palate. Large expanses of glass bring light into the multi-height interior spaces at both the front and rear elevations, creating dramatic interiors and exteriors.
The eight families that will reside at each of these structures will be treated to
large, detailed interior spaces. Upon entry to the unit, living room heights approach 15 feet.
The opportunities for evolution in a neighborhood come from an uncomplicated progression from one style to another. Using simple materials enhance the volumes this building creates. Making infill buildings flatter their neighbors requires contextual and independent thinking. They bring a stabilizing element to the block, while raising the bar for future developments."

Derek2k3
April 16th, 2005, 07:18 PM
Project # 1

Park Place Condominium
145 Park Place
8 stories 80 feet
Lauster Radu Architects/Tom Anderson of Anderson Associates
Dev-Anderson Associates
Residential Condominiums
47 units 101,000 Sq. Ft.
Under Construction 2003-2005

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/42143565.jpg
4/13

Derek2k3
April 16th, 2005, 08:38 PM
Project #10

84 Fourth Avenue
59-67 St. Mark's Place
5 stories (1 story addition)
Sandor Weiss
Dev-Ed Kurtz
Residential
9 units 8,300 Sq. Ft.
Completed 2004

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/42146378.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/42146386.jpg

Gulcrapek
April 16th, 2005, 09:53 PM
What crap. Sandor Weiss is on the d-list.

Derek2k3
April 17th, 2005, 05:13 PM
Heh, it seems like his stuff is better suited for tropical climates, where colors and frills disguise crap.

Project #11

81 St. Mark's Place
DeFonseca Associates Architects
Dev-St Marks Place Assocaites LLC
4 stories 37 feet
Residential
4 units 5,655 Sq. Ft.
Under Construction 2004-2005

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/42188707.jpg

Derek2k3
April 19th, 2005, 12:51 AM
From Transfer
Brooklyn's Ugliest New Row House

http://www.usemenow.com/web-log/archives/2005/04/brooklyns_uglie.html

"Usually, as I mentioned earlier, these are reserved for further outterboro neighborhoods, but this is nearside Brooklyn, Dean btw 4th & 5th Ave. Prime 'underdeveloped' southslope real estate."

Map of the block:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Dean+btw+4th+%26+5th+Ave+Brooklyn+New+York&ll=40.682556,-73.976661&spn=0.030396,0.058375&hl=en



Project #12

399 Dean Street
4 stories
Gerald J. Caliendo, R.A.P.C.
Dev-Ocean Management
Residential Condominium
2 units 4,560 Sq. Ft.
Under Construction Spring 2005

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/42265983.jpg

Transfer: "What a pile of uninspired insipid trash. Love the wood awning, the curvaceous railings... Yowsers."



Project #13

Park Slope Manor Condominiums
391-393 Dean Street
4.5 stories 50 feet
Bricolage Designs
Dev-Park Slope Manor LLC
Residential Condominium
8 units 12,080 Sq. Ft. (x2)
Completed Spring 2005

http://www.corcoran.com/property/nd/photo/dean_03.jpg

Corcoran
391-393 Dean Street
Brooklyn,NY11217

http://www.corcoran.com/property/nd/index.asp?CGM=Y

Overview
Park Slope Manor Condominiums ensures residents all the comforts and conveniences for exceptional living. Every resident will enjoy their very own private outdoor space. The 2nd and 3rd floor simplexes all have gracious juliet balconies in the front and full balconies in the back. The duplexes offer much more space with their remarkably large recreation rooms. First floor residents will take pleasure in having their own patio and huge backyard where the top floor duplexes will enjoy spectacular views from their private roof deck. Other features include: state-of art kitchens with stainless steel appliances, magnificent baths with Jacuzzi tubs, w/d in unit, central A/C, beautiful wide plank hardwood floors, walk in closets, private storage, oversized windows, southern and northern exposure. These luxury condos are located on a lovely block near absolutely everything. One block from every train (B,D,Q, M, N, R, 2, 3, 4 & 5) offering a short 15 minute commute to the city. Near restaurants and shopping on Park Slope’s always talked about 5th and 7th Avenue and Brooklyn’s famous Prospect Park.

Amenities

state-of art kitchens with stainless steel appliances
- magnificent baths with Jacuzzi tubs
- w/d in unit
- central A/C
- beautiful wide plank hardwood floors
- walk in closets
- private storage

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/42266080.jpg

Links:
http://www.brooklyneagle.com/archive/brooklyn_space.php?id=3342
Park Slope Manor Sells Out in Under 4 Weeks
by Emily Hart (ehart@brooklyneagle.net), published online 12-09-2004

Elevators Open Directly Into Units

PARK SLOPE — Park Slope Manor, a 16-unit luxury condominium development at 391-393 Dean St. in Park Slope, hit the market and sold out in under four weeks, according to Peter Noonan, who was handling sales for The Corcoran Group Brooklyn.

One of the attractions is that the five-story building, located between 4th and 5th Avenues and just off Flatbush Avenue, offers a level of comfort and convenience not common here — with elevators opening directly into the apartments, Noonan said....


Project #14

405 Dean Street
Gino A. Misciagna
Dev-405 Dean St., LLC
4 stories 50 feet
Residential Condominium
6 units 10,000 Sq. Ft.
Under Construction Spring 2006

http://www.pbase.com/archit_kderek2k3/image/42266070.jpg

Transfer: "The two above do a really nice job highlighting the beauty, stature, and class of some of the 19th century wood frames - one below - that dot this same block of Dean St."

More photos of these beauties at Transfer:
http://www.usemenow.com/web-log/archives/2005/04/brooklyns_uglie.html

Gulcrapek
April 19th, 2005, 08:56 PM
391-393 Dean brings a kind of stately presence with it, it's not bad. The other two are hellish, especially the first one.

Derek2k3
May 22nd, 2005, 09:43 PM
Project # 1

Park Place Condominium
145 Park Place
8 stories 80 feet
Lauster Radu Architects/Tom Anderson of Anderson Associates
Dev-Anderson Associates
Residential Condominiums
47 units 101,000 Sq. Ft.
Under Construction 2003-2005

http://www.lausterradu.com/projects/11/63.jpeg

Nice photos and commentary at Transfer.
http://www.usemenow.com/web-log/archives/2005/05/new_constructio.html

sfenn1117
May 17th, 2007, 03:27 PM
FANTASTIC 4TH

ONCE-GRITTY STRETCH OF PARK SLOPE BOOMS WITH NEW CONDOS & HOT SPOTS


By MAX GROSS


May 17, 2007 --

There's something in the Park Slope mindset that ends at Fifth Avenue.

Seventh Avenue is that sublime block of baby carriages and bookstores. Sixth Avenue is the picturesque collection of brownstones and garden apartments that scream classic Brooklyn. Fifth Avenue is the trendy stretch of restaurants and nightspots. But go one block farther, and the scene changes rapidly.

The townhouses start disappearing. There are fewer trees along the sidewalks. At Fourth Avenue, the wine bars and cute children's outfitters give way to a gritty, multi-lane boulevard dotted with auto-body shops. Auto-body shops and a large number of holes in the ground.

Those holes are worth taking note of: Over the next year-and-a-half, they will be filled with hundreds of new high-end condo units. And Fourth Avenue will be radically transformed as a result.

Consider the first of this latest crop of buildings (out of more than a half dozen we've counted). Novo, at 343 Fourth Ave., between Fifth and Sixth streets, came on the market earlier this year. At its first open house in March, there was a line of potential buyers out the door. Within an hour and a half, four of the six one-bedrooms being released had accepted offers. As did three two-bedrooms.

"It was crazy," says Dave Bell, one of those who waited on line the first afternoon and made a bid. "I actually didn't get [an apartment] at first ... I called my broker that night and told her I wanted it and to make an offer, but someone had already gotten it. But I decided to put my name on the waiting list." Three weeks later - after the first offers had fallen through - Bell's offer was accepted.

Part of the appeal was the pricing, of course. Small one-bedrooms were going for $309,000, while two-bedrooms measuring almost 1,000 square feet were priced at less than $700,000. (These are bargains for Park Slope.)

Novo's just one of the many neighborhood-changing buildings rising on Fourth Avenue. From Warren Street all the way south to 19th Street, there's one development approximately every three blocks.

The Crest, at 302 Second St. (at Fourth Avenue), opened its sales office this past weekend and eight units were spoken for in just one day. The 68 units - one-bedrooms and two-bedrooms - start at $354,000 and go up to $751,000.

Within the next 18 months, there will be a slew of others: Park Slope Court, at 110 Fourth Ave., near Warren Street, with 49 units consisting of studios, one-bedrooms and two-bedrooms; 255 Fourth Ave., a 41-unit boutique Scarano Architects and Developers Group project at Carroll Street; The Argyle, 410 Fourth Ave., at Seventh Street, a 12-story, 54-unit condo; and 500 Fourth Ave., at 12th Street, a 137-unit, 12-story luxury building. There are even more developments in the works, farther south along Fourth.

Those who know Fourth will likely be shaking their heads right now.

"Fourth Avenue was always a dead zone between Park Slope and Carroll Gardens and Smith Street," says David Stuart, an associate at Meltzer/ Mandl, which is designing the Argyle.

And, yes, there is still the big, freestanding KFC drive-thru and the block-long Hess station. Nevertheless, this "dead zone" has given developers room to get creative.

The types of buildings that are going up - high-end with gyms, concierges and parking - are new to this part of Park Slope. (The condo itself is a somewhat alien concept here.) And many of those who have bought were willing to trade being in the center of a beautiful neighborhood to being on the edge of one.

"We wanted to be on Fourth Avenue," declares Lindsey King.

King and her husband, Kevin, had been renting between Fifth and Sixth avenues for a year. "We went to a lot of open houses, starting in December," says Kevin. They looked at co-ops farther up the hill but decided that Fourth Avenue was the more interesting bet.

"We saw it as an opportunity to invest in an area that's changing," says Lindsey. They bought a two-bedroom, two-bath at Novo.

The floodgates on most of this new development opened in 2003, when much of the Fourth Avenue corridor was rezoned for residential use. Price change took effect quickly after the rezoning.

"You can see it in the BP Station on Fourth Avenue between Fifth and Sixth streets," says Michelle de la Uz, executive director of the Fifth Avenue Committee, an affordable-housing advocacy group. That's now the site of, you guessed it, a proposed residential building.

In addition to the new housing, there are many other things hitting Fourth Avenue as well. Andres Escobar has a new boutique hotel, scheduled to open this year - it almost seems to float above an enormous taxi depot across the street from Novo. A spate of new restaurants and bars have opened on Fourth. And development is creeping even farther west to Third Avenue (see sidebar).

"My wife and I still hear the 'Bup! Bup! Bup!' of cars whooshing by at night," says Fran Pizzani who, with his wife, Carly, moved to Fourth Avenue two years ago. They traded their one-bedroom on West 96th Street in Manhattan for a duplex rental with outdoor space on St. Marks Place that was $300 a month cheaper.

"There was really nothing [back then] - we would go to places on Fifth Avenue, or occasionally make the trek to Mooney's Pub on Flatbush [near] Seventh Avenue," recalls Pizzani. "It's amazing how much it's changed in just two years."

"It's the natural progression," says Jason Crew, co-owner of Sheep Station, an Australian gastropub that opened on Fourth Avenue in September. "I've been in the neighborhood for 14 years ... and I knew that Fourth Avenue was ripe for development. We bypassed Fifth Avenue altogether when we were deciding where to open."

Business at Sheep Station, as well as the other bars and restaurants that have opened along Fourth, like hipster hangout Cherry Tree and lesbian bar Cattyshack, has been booming.

"Cherry Tree gets more of the young, college-age crowd," says Crew. "We get more of the neighborhood people, the 30-somethings."

In a way, Park Slope has seen this kind of shift before.

Old Brooklyn hands will remember just how dodgy Fifth Avenue once was. Ten years ago, it was rare that a Park Slope resident would venture west to Fifth Avenue. The street wasn't much more than 99-cent stores, the odd Spanish-American diner or pizza parlor and seedy bars with tinted windows.

"Now Fifth Avenue is phenomenal. It's flourishing. You've got Al Di La, and the butcher and the baker and the candlestick-maker kind of thing," says Peggy Aguayo of Aguayo & Huebener.

"It was the restaurants opening that started it," says Aguayo. "Other chefs started moving in, and little boutiques followed."

That, and crime went down.

"What you're seeing is a move towards the water," says Professor Kenneth T. Jackson, author of "The Neighborhoods of Brooklyn." "It used to be that people were always afraid to get too far down the hill. Now, it's, 'How can I get to work?'"

One thing Fourth definitely has going for it is subway access, with stops at Union Street and 9th Street. (The Hampton Jitney is stopping there, too!)

"Whoever thought anything would be anything in Gowanus or Red Hook," Aguayo says. Why not Fourth Avenue? "It's non-residential, grungy, but it has that center [traffic] island. If they did plantings on that island, it would be great!"

"As a result of the land value, they found it was much more valuable to develop than to pump gas, even at $3 per gallon," de la Uz says.

The Fifth Avenue Committee has gotten in on the Fourth Avenue act, too. They moved their headquarters to Fourth Avenue two-and-a-half years ago.
"It was a practicality issue," says de la Uz, "and we wanted to own our own space. As rents go up, this was the way to sustain ourselves."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05172007/realestate/fantastic_4th_realestate_max_gross.htm?page=0

sfenn1117
May 17th, 2007, 03:37 PM
Some renderings with the article:

Park Slope Court (110 4th):
http://i14.tinypic.com/538lc0g.jpg

Argyle (410 4th):
http://i11.tinypic.com/642xjj7.jpg

500 4th:
http://i15.tinypic.com/4kl9tlx.jpg

And we all know how the Novo turned out:
http://i13.tinypic.com/4yg2us4.jpg

Other renderings:

The Crest (302 2nd st):
http://i18.tinypic.com/5z5604j.jpg

255 4th:
http://i10.tinypic.com/62gdnj5.jpg
http://i9.tinypic.com/4leooht.jpg

Park Slope Apartments (391 4th, by 10 arquitectos)
http://i4.tinypic.com/6gwhr2f.jpg
http://i17.tinypic.com/4th2jb4.jpg

antinimby
May 17th, 2007, 07:01 PM
Unfortunately, most of the newcomers have terrible ground floors with little or no retail whatsoever with the Crest above as a perfect example.

Filling in what was once parking lots and garages is great but they add very little vitality to the Avenue.

City planning totally goofed by not also adding in a commercial overlay as part of the rezoning.

sfenn1117
May 17th, 2007, 10:34 PM
Yeah the ground floor of the Crest completely ignores 4th avenue. I think the Novo will have retail....and at least some new retail is going in the old walkups.

Next step for 4th avenue should be to green that horrible center median. It's just a concrete block...since Flatbush Ave ext. is going to get some greenery in the median, 4th avenue should too.

I'd say within 10 years that entire stretch of 4th will be built out with condos....I would have to assume that the stretch in the 20's, currently zoned manufacturing, will also change to accomadate 12 story buildings. Sunset Park I'm not so sure about, and Bay Ridge certainly not...though 8 story buildings are allowed.

The architecture isn't great but getting better...the Scarano buildings aren't bad and the Ten Arquitectos building is great. It's Boymelgreen and his horrible buildings basically.

Eugenious
May 18th, 2007, 12:01 PM
Hey all, I'm seeking your opinion on buying one of these cheap condos (Novo,etc) i have great credit, young (25yo) stable job, savings and no debt.

Would these appreciate in the next few years? please help a fellow poster.

:)

sfenn1117
May 18th, 2007, 01:53 PM
It will certainly appreciate. Like I said I'm sure 4th Avenue will be beautified in time, and since lots near the Gowanus Canal are going to be rezoned for residential, 4th Avenue won't be on the outskirts in a decade.

Just hope a 12 story tower doesn't go up across the avenue killing your views!

Merry
September 18th, 2009, 08:21 AM
Apologies if this is in the wrong place.

BSA Postpones Decision on Carroll St Norten Again

http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/580%20carroll%20variance%20rendering.jpg

On Tuesday the Board of Standards and Appeals once again postponed its hearing on the fate of the controversial development at 580 Carroll Street. The world will have to wait until November to find out if the proposed Enrique Norten-designed structure, rendered above, will be built. The developers have appealed to the BSA on the basis of a variety of hardship claims, saying they need to construct a denser building than zoning allows in order to make money on the project. Needless to say, some in the community are less than sympathetic to their claims.

580 Carroll Decision Postponed (http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2009/07/580_carroll_dec.php) [Brownstoner]
Slope Rallies Against 580 Carroll, Rags on the BSA (http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2009/07/slope_rallies_a.php) [Brownstoner]
Battle Over Carroll St. Norten Build Heats Up This Week (http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2009/07/battle_over_car.php) [Brownstoner]
CB6 Doesn't Buy Carroll Street Hardship Claim (http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2009/06/cb6_doesnt_buy.php) [Brownstoner]
580 Carroll Developer Trying to Supersize Norten Project (http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2009/05/580_carroll_dev.php) [Brownstoner]
Development Watch: 580 Carroll Street (http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2009/03/development_wat_385.php) [Brownstoner] GMAP (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=580+Carroll+Street,+Brooklyn&sll=40.67587,-73.982985&sspn=0.008885,0.009592&ie=UTF8&ll=40.676521,-73.982985&spn=0.008885,0.009592&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr)
Enrique Norten-Designed Project in Park Slope Revealed (http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2009/03/enrique_norten_2.php) [Brownstoner]
Four Developments Coming to One Stretch of Carroll (http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2008/06/carroll.php) [Brownstoner]

http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2009/09/bsa_postpones_d.php