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August 20th, 2005, 11:20 PM
The area bounded by 65th street, Greenwood Cemetery, NY Harbor, and 8th Ave. But I will be stretching the boundary to 9th Ave. I think of it as Sunset Park, but some refer to it as Boro Park. I didn't walk past 9th Ave though.

Project #1:
58th Street between 6th and 7th
Permit says 4 floors, I forget the # of units.
It's rising brick by brick but it doesn't look promising.

Project #2:
58th street between 7th and 8th
4 floors
Definitely sticks out, the building itself is ok.

Project #3:
7th Ave between 57th and 58th. I didn't see a permit on the site but according to that article in the Daily News it's rising 7 floors/28 units. I have to dig it up, I'll edit this.

Project #4:
7th ave at 50th street, SW corner.
No, this is not the same as the above picture lol. Permit says 6 floors, 29 units, as you can see. Still a hole.

Project #5:
625 49th street (between 6th/7th)
5 floors/5 units
This is the famed one from Brownstoner and the Daily News. It really does rise well above the rest, but it's actually better than most in this nabe. It's ok.

Project #6:
6th ave at 46th(I think)
What to say about this one. It's the worst thing ever done in this boro. Exaggeration? I don't think so. It's a one story addition to an exisiting building. The brick is all off, it's got Fedders, can you imagine living on the 3rd floor with the construction going on. I just have to say WTF, a huge WTF. The developer of this of should immdediately be blacklisted. Notice the empty narrow lot next door too.

Project #7:
40th between 7th and 8th
6 floors
Inspired by a commenter on Brownstoner I checked this block out. The person said it's ugly, but the block is unique. There's tiny 1 story shacks lol. This building in particular isn't bad.

Project #8:
40th between 7th and 8th
3 floors
This one is very bad. I hate the new ones with the separate entries. Bensonhurst has a ton of these.

Project #9
40th between 8th and 9th
This one is rising brick by brick, going up to 5 floors. Hard to tell it's quality now, I'll let it complete itself before I criticize.

Plenty more where this came from!!!!!! (10 pic limit)

August 20th, 2005, 11:29 PM
Daily News Article from earlier this month:

Tall buildings, big problems

Sunset Park: size matters Chronicling the effects the hot housing market
is having on people's lives. Third of five parts.


On one block, the row houses line up in neat rectangles of alternating yellow or chocolate brick, with lace curtains peeking through glass-paneled doors. On another, most of the century-old brownstones have benches out front - inviting people to visit with their neighbors.

Along side street after side street, it's got the polished look of some fancy neighborhood - but it's Brooklyn's immigrant melting pot, Sunset Park.

But a threat looms for this historic neighborhood, and proud homeowners are rallying to oppose it.

Construction fences are sprouting up in the neighborhood. What's taking shape behind them will be too tall or too bulky for their liking, and probably covered with rows of Fedders air-conditioners, like many new residential buildings in other Brooklyn nabes.

"It takes away from the beauty of the blocks," argued Fred Xuereb, 57, a retired Department of Buses supervisor, Community Board 7 member and nearly life-long resident of Sunset Park.

He collected almost 1,000 signatures on a petition demanding a zoning change to stop this type of development in the southern end of the neighborhood, from 55th St. down to the border of Bay Ridge.

"People are fighting the 'Fedders buildings,'" said Jeremy Laufer, district manager of Community Board 7, in whose territory Sunset Park sits.

In response to their petition, the board passed a unanimous resolution in June urging the City Planning Commission to consider the downzoning they want. And their City Council rep, Sara Gonzalez, supports them. She has met with the planning commission and the council's land-use committee, and she's working with a community task force.

Out-of-scale development - which riddles blocks of single- and two-family homes with bigger multi-family construction - is a consequence of the red-hot housing market. It threatens residential sections of Staten Island, the Bronx, Queens and Brooklyn.

The construction of bigger buildings among the row houses drives neighborhoods toward overcrowding that could strain public services and infrastructure, residents said.

And they fear it threatens to undercut the value of existing homes, which partly depends on an area's character and quality of life.

Other places have fought this type of development. Now it's Sunset Park's turn.

Downzoning has taken effect in neighboring Park Slope and Bay Ridge, making Sunset Park the next square on the checkerboard for oversized home-building.

"It seems everyone is jumping into it," said Johnny Chan, who's developing a five-story, five-apartment building at 625 49th St., on a block of two-story houses. Chan makes no apologies about his desire to build.

On Seventh Avenue, between 58th and 59th streets - where the buildings are three or four stories tall - work is under way on a seven-story building with 28 apartments and a day-care center, according to city Buildings Department records. At 415 36th St., a five-story, 12-unit condo building is rising next door to two-story row houses.

Residents who took good care of their homes when Sunset Park wasn't a hot area are seeing property values appreciate - and want them to stay high.

"They don't want anyone else to mess things up," said broker Jesus Benitez of ERA Real Estate Professionals.

Two-family houses that sold for $100,000 to $125,000 three years ago now command more than $600,000, he said. They can even fetch more than $700,000 if newly renovated. Some of the demand is coming from buyers who can't afford Park Slope's $2.5 million to $3.5 million townhouses.

Many Sunset Park homeowners fear development will overburden their neighborhood, which they say already is crowded.

The lower schools are packed, and it's one of the only places in town without a public high school, said Laufer of Community Board 7. Though the population's growing, the police force has been cut back and a firehouse has been closed. Streets that are in bad shape will suffer added wear and tear if over-development proliferates, residents said.

But some are taking action to block that from happening.

Joseph DeTommaso, an 80-year-old retiree, signed the petition calling for downzoning, and collected signatures from other residents of 62nd St., between Second and Third avenues.

DeTommaso makes a point of looking after the block where he's lived for 52 years. He gave his neighbors American flags after 9/11, and many are still flying them. He goes out with a broom and bucket to tidy up before the street-sweeping machine comes. He warns mothers to guard their children from cars and trucks that come barreling down the otherwise charming, tree-lined street. "We need to protect the neighborhood," he said.

August 20th, 2005, 11:31 PM
For photos also provided vt sfenn1117 see this thread-


Does the fenn in sfenn have anything to do with Fenway Park in Boston?

no way....yankees fan all the way

August 21st, 2005, 12:10 AM
Steve... you've taken my place as construction walker. Many props(z).

The last one looks like it could be alright in a muted art deco throwback kinda way. The second to last... are you sure that's new? It looks like at least early 90s, maybe 80s.

August 21st, 2005, 12:16 AM
Last one I think is

814 40th Street
6 floors, 59
10 units
Architect: Architectural Designs, PC

Ok and here's another one on the same block

828 40th Street
4 floors
7 units
Architect: Robinson Architects

August 21st, 2005, 08:27 AM
Oh... I am a Red Sox fan so I was just wondering. Your going to Vermont, so you should be one soon. Your freezing ears and wet neck warmers will wake you up and make you go... I hate the Yankees!

I'm the biggest Yankees fan you'll ever find ;)

Steve... you've taken my place as construction walker. Many props(z).

The last one looks like it could be alright in a muted art deco throwback kinda way. The second to last... are you sure that's new? It looks like at least early 90s, maybe 80s.

You may be right, I've never walked this block before. There's a few in Bay Ridge that are very similar and are recent. Thanks for looking up the other projects.

There's about 10 or 12 more projects I need to put in here and then about 60 in a new Bay Ridge photo thread. Hopefully by the end of today.

August 21st, 2005, 02:54 PM
Great job, I look foward to seeing them!

August 21st, 2005, 03:03 PM
Ok and here's another one on the same block

828 40th Street
4 floors
7 units
Architect: Robinson Architects

Right where I left off lol.......

Project #10
828 40th street
4 floors/7 units
Nothing special......while I was taking the photo a guy asked me if I was looking for a condo lol.

Project #11
40th between 8th and 9th
3 floors
This one may be older but it can't be too old. It's terrible.

Project #12
49th between 7th and 8th
3 floors
In the heart of Brooklyn Chinatown, this building is decked out with chinese ornamentation. Definitely not my style.

Project #13
49th between 8th and 9th
6 floors
This went up a couple years ago, I can deal with it.

Project #14
50th between 8th and 9th
3 floors
Not so great

Project #15
50th between 8th and 9th
4 floors
This one is nice

Project #16
50th between 8th and 9th (Across the street from 14/15)
4 floors
Just awful. Give me some kind of design.

Project #17
Somewhere in the 50s between 8th and 9th (53rd?) I lost track
6 floors
A step above acceptable. Like the curved balconies.

Project #18
Across the street from 17
Empty lot with a "sold" sign
What will it be?

August 21st, 2005, 03:27 PM
Projects #19/20
Along 8th ave in the 50s (53-54th?)
3 story filler buildings.
These are terrible

Project #21
55th I believe between 8th and 9th
3 stories
Terrible roof and facade. Notice the skylights.

Project #22
55th I think between 8th and 9th
5 stories
Chinese building, kind of bland. It's roof is fenced I think it might have a daycare or something.

Project #23
57th (I'm positive, it's on the building) between 8th and 9th
7 floors
It's not so bad. Really dominates the area, even buildings on the avenues are only 3-4 stories.


Project #24
57th between 8th and 9th
Construction site adjacent to #23. Permit says 5 floors, I forget the units, I think it said 10. I think some of the windows may be blocked out next door.

Project #25
59th or 60th between 8th and 9th
4 floors
Another chinese building, this one decked out with cell phone whatevers. Notice the graffiti already lol.

Project #26
6 floors
An old factory building converted to office space (A sign says office pace for rent) right next to the subway stop for the N.

Project #27
Across the street, 8th ave/64th street
No permits, just a huge construction site. I don't think it'll be residential, it might be something for Maimonides Hospital.

That's it for now......I'll try to dig up an article I read on a development on 26th street near Greenwood......a new building by Scarano will block the view of the statue of Minerva waving to the Statue of Liberty. Of course the community is in an uproar!

August 21st, 2005, 06:21 PM
I think that's been resolved and the vista will stay.

Projects #11 and #14 look definitely at least 10 years old. Not that it makes them any better.

No offense to any Chinese, but if you look at all the buildings constructed by Chinese developers and/or Chinese architects, you will find the vast majority of them are abysmal. There seems to be no consideration whatsoever of aesthetics in the development process.

Project #15 isn't great but I like how it at least gradualized the change of streetwall.

August 21st, 2005, 06:47 PM
Projects #11 and #14 look definitely at least 10 years old. Not that it makes them any better.

I think you're right about #11, but sadly, #14 was done a few years ago.

No offense to any Chinese, but if you look at all the buildings constructed by Chinese developers and/or Chinese architects, you will find the vast majority of them are abysmal. There seems to be no consideration whatsoever of aesthetics in the development process.

Can't argue there. Thankfully not all the new construction is chinese. Probably about half, and only along and near 8th.

May 23rd, 2006, 01:54 PM
NY Daily News
May 23, 2006

Our Liberty belle gets a reprieve



The wave may be saved.

The city is opposing a move by a Brooklyn developer of a seven-story condo that locals fear will block the famed salute between Green-Wood Cemetery's statue of Minerva and the Statue of Liberty.

After a review found "serious zoning violations" in the design by controversial architect Robert Scarano, the Department of Buildings said it may revoke a permit for the project at 614 Seventh Ave.

"They're going to have to start from scratch," predicted Aaron Brashear, of the Concerned Citizens of Greenwood Heights which has protested the building.

Without the permit, developer Chaim Nussencweig could be permanently barred from building the 30,000 square foot tower as planned - which Scarano redesigned last fall to keep the view after community uproar.

Residents charged Scarano's latest condo redesign still blocks the famous salute.

"It's a peephole," said Brashear, who charged the new plan offered only a sliver of the current view.

Scarano is under investigation for possible zoning and building code abuses.

Despite the highly-critical tone of DOB's May 9 letter - including a list of 20 irregularities - Nussencweig's lawyer expects the project will be approved.

"The Building Department reviewed it once and found it valid," said Howard Hornstein.

"Hopefully, they'll review it a second time and find it valid."

Buildings officials conceded the redesign permit should never have been approved because of the violations.

"The permit was improperly issued," said DOB spokeswoman Ilyse Fink said.

If DOB does reject the redesign permit, Nussencweig can appeal or revise his plans, officials said.

© 2006 Daily News, L.P.

September 16th, 2008, 10:33 PM
Updated On 09/16/08 at 02:17PM

Brokers target creative types for Sunset Park workspaces

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Industry City corridor

By Gabby Warshawer

A firm is pitching Dumbo-style workspaces in Sunset Park, hoping to draw creative professionals to the industrial section of the Brooklyn neighborhood.

Commercial brokerage CRES NYC is representing 11 fully renovated workspaces in Sunset Park's Industry City, a sprawling industrial complex on 36th Street near the waterfront. The spaces range from 812 square feet to 2,598 square feet and asking rents average $16 a foot.

Rents for similar spaces in Dumbo go for about $28 a foot, according to CRES NYC chief executive Chris Havens.

"About eight years ago Dumbo started to become a commercial area," Havens said. "We're delivering renovated, operational space, just like Two Trees does in Dumbo."

The 11 spaces -- more will eventually hit the market -- are in a six-million-square-foot complex owned by Industry City Associates, a partnership that includes Bruce Federman and the Schron and Fruchthandler families. The landlords have already turned thousands of square feet in the property into studio space for artists.

April 11th, 2009, 01:42 AM
April 7, 2009


One Sunset Park

Bed-Stuy might crash and burn. Sheepshead Bay might sink. And Long Island City might lose it. But Sunset Park is still blazing.

This might be a slight exaggeration. But at the very least, one new building in this Brooklyn neighborhood is plugging along.

The building is One Sunset Park (http://www.onesunsetpark.com/), which after five months on the market has sold enough of its units for the sponsors to request that the Attorney General's office declare its offering plan effective. In fact, we're told that the building is already 50 percent sold.

One might wonder how this building, being sold by Halstead Property Development Marketing, has more or less survived.

If nothing else, One Sunset Park will show just how much you can get if you're willing to offer up a sacrifice on the altar of location. The six-story 54-unit prewar conversion has 562-square-foot studios that start at $300,000 (which, for those who do not have calculator in hand, works out to $533 per square foot) -- and 1,114-square-foot two-bedrooms for $585,000 (which is even less at $525!).

Plus, the finishes sound pretty good: Brazilian cherry-wood floors, Jenn-Air kitchens, Bosch washer/dryers and Kohler sinks and soaking tub. There's also a landscaped garden, fitness center, bike room and storage. Plus, One Sunset Park has the other amenity many buildings in crappy locations have: a great view of the city. -- Max Gross


March 2nd, 2010, 04:40 AM
Green Depot

Selldorf designs sustainable recycling facility in Brooklyn

Matt Chaban

Annabelle Selldorf is designing a rather uncharacteristic building in Brooklyn,
though the designer believes the recycling center is a natural fit for her practice.

New York architect Annabelle Selldorf is known for stylish Soho apartments and restrained Chelsea galleries, but her latest project is quite the departure, and not simply because it’s located in Sunset Park, Brooklyn. Her firm, Selldorf Architects, has designed a recycling center for Sims Metal Management, a 24-hour facility that will process 600 tons of recyclables each day from the five boroughs.

Designing an industrial building is unusual enough, but the architects were also working within a relatively tight budget of $89 million. That meant the center would have to be built using pre-engineered structures, limiting the flexibility of the design. Yet Selldorf’s team found the challenge every bit as engaging as a high-end loft or a Hamptons villa.

“In a funny way, it’s not that different,” Selldorf said during a telephone interview from Europe, where she is working on a gallery. “People tend to think we do very elaborate, refined work, but the issues really are the same, respecting the program and the budget."

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A site plan for the project shows the difficult choreography in creating circulation for the competing needs of a facility that is both industrial and educational.
(click to zoom)

Tom Outerbridge, general manager for Sims’ municipal recycling division, said the company wanted a marquee facility because of its prominence on the water— it is located on a pier at the South Brooklyn Marine Terminal, adjacent to 30th Street—and its importance to the city’s sustainability efforts. Sims selected Selldorf Architects because of what Outerbridge characterized as the firm’s “classic” aesthetic. “There were a lot of very interesting ideas, but how’s that going to play 20 years from now?”

Outerbridge said. “Selldorf’s approach is very simple and clean.”

Through a number of subtle yet creative maneuvers, the designers were able to achieve a unique, almost customized appearance for the project without straying far from the basic units they had been given to work with.

“As far as the buildings go, we want to express the function of the buildings and let the forms speak for themselves,” said Sara Lopergolo, the principal-in-charge at Selldorf. “We edit selectively and push the detailing where we can.”

Organizing the 11.5-acre site was a challenge, since barges bring in most of the recyclables—with trucks serving parts of Brooklyn and Queens—while the processed materials are removed by trucks and, eventually, rail cars.

The solution was a series of linked structures that begin with the so-called tipping building, where trucks and barges bring in materials under a roof that extends from the upland side out over the water. The processing building interlocks with the tipping building and links to a bale building, where recyclables are stored for removal. An adjacent administrative and educational building is connected to the main facility by a third-floor skybridge.

Most recyclables will be brought in by barge and deposited in the tipping building,
a simple pre-engineered building that has had its structure exposed,
one of many decisions made by selldorf to create a unique look.

To add character to the structures, designers peeled back the walls of the tipping building to expose the structure within, which was painted a glossy black. The same corrugated metal panels are used on the processing and baling buildings, but the ripples run vertically on the former and horizontally on the latter, communicating that the buildings have separate functions. The administrative building mirrors a 4-foot concrete band around the base of the main building, and uses the same corrugated metal above, along with translucent fiberglass panels.

Encircling all this is 3.5 acres of green space. This serves a practical purpose, because Sims hopes to expand operations at the facility some day on a plot east of the processing building. But Sims and the city, mindful of the symbolism of the recycling center, are also striving for a sustainable operation. Thus, hardy native plants will be used to help retain stormwater. “Basically, we’ve created a park and carved out a space for recycling,” Lopergolo said.

Sims also felt strongly about incorporating solar power into the project. To accommodate the rooftop panels, designers realized that by using 70-foot columns on the upland side of the tipping building, compared to the 50-foot columns on the water side, they could achieve the necessary pitch on the 6,000-square-foot roof for an ample solar array. The inclusion of a windmill is also under study, and there has even been talk of using goats to maintain lawns instead of mowers.

A sky bridge connects the processing building with the administrative building,
so students may view the recycling processing without getting in the way.
The canted roof of the tipping building accommodates a solar array.

Because the project is located on public land, it is subject to review by the Public Design Commission, which gave preliminary approval on February 1. Commissioners were impressed by how much care had been put into what could have been a standard industrial building. “The design is very elegant and restrained,” Guy Nordenson, an engineer who serves on the commission, wrote in an email. “That is testimony to Selldorf and her team’s design and detailing skill and also to the city’s strong support for design excellence across the board.”

Selldorf admits the project was a big step for her firm, particularly in these difficult times for the design industry. “We’ve always tried to do a wide range of projects, but this is really important to me,” she said. “Like anyone, we struggle, but I would have wanted this job under any circumstances because of what it means for the city.”


April 1st, 2010, 02:40 AM
An Empty Warehouse Holds Dreams of Industrial Jobs



slide show (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/03/31/realestate/20100331federal_ss.html?ref=commercial#1)

To hear it described by one broker, the football-field-long former Navy warehouse off the Brooklyn waterfront inspired awe from all but a few of the prospective buyers invited on a tour of the long-vacant site last month.

But that awe, said the broker, Chris Havens, the chief executive of Creative Real Estate Group in Brooklyn, quickly dissolved into skepticism as the financial realities of the World War I-era building became clear.

At 1.1 million square feet, the 94-year-old edifice in Sunset Park, commonly referred to as Federal Building No. 2, has one of the largest floor plates in the borough and may be the largest vacant structure for sale in the city.

The city’s Economic Development Corporation is marketing it for the federal government, with the goal of filling it with light manufacturing operations.

Potential owners are realizing that with such superlatives come expensive challenges.

“I love big, vacant buildings, and I think they’re exciting,” said Mr. Havens, who toured the eight-story structure with dozens of developers, brokers and curiosity seekers. “It’s dramatic, and you imagine what could happen in a building that size. The problem is it’s not worth anything, and one of the big brokers who was there that day actually said that it’s worth ‘less than zero.’ ”

Since issuing a request for proposals in December, the development corporation has received bids of $500,000 to $10 million from six potential buyers. Each has offered different ways to hurdle financial obstacles that include the building’s enormous renovation costs, a wide floor plate that limits light and air at the center of the structure, zoning limitations, and property taxes of $1 million a year, which the federal government is exempt from paying.

An earlier effort by the federal government to sell the building, in 2006, was derailed two years later after the winning bidder, Time Equities, pulled away in the face of economic turmoil. The group, which invested $1.5 million in engineering and architectural fees before abandoning its plans, did not submit a follow-up proposal, said the company’s chairman, Francis Greenburger.

“Our reading of the market hasn’t really changed,” Mr. Greenburger said, “and we just feel like it would not be appropriate for us to get back in when we didn’t have the conditions we need to move forward. Time Equities’ original proposal included the possibility of bringing a Target store to the site in addition to industrial tenants. “Our experience in the market today is there’s little construction financing available and, certainly for larger projects, it’s almost nonexistent,” he said.

But successful development of buildings like Federal No. 2 could help stem an exodus of industrial jobs in the city, which have fallen to about 100,000 in 2008, from a peak of 960,000 in 1959, according to the federal Labor Department. The recent rezoning of 50 blocks in Greenpoint and Williamsburg to residential from industrial left hundreds of businesses without a home in the city, said Leah Archibald of Ewvidco, a north Brooklyn business advocacy group.

“There are a lot of displaced industrial tenants right now,” said Nick Halstead, a project manager for the Economic Development Corporation, which is overseeing a multifaceted plan for Sunset Park that includes a new freight rail line. “Space gets expensive in certain submarkets so we’re trying to hold this down as one big area for affordable industrial use.”

Broadening the building’s appeal for prospective tenants has been a central challenge for the Clarett Group and Industry City Associates, two of the developers that submitted bids late last month.

Bruce Federman, a partner at Industry City, said that altering the concept of light manufacturing to include technology start-ups and art studios was needed to generate demand for a space that few expect will command more than $8 a square foot. Under the Industry City proposal, only 25 percent of the building would be immediately leased, and the remaining space would be marketed after further renovations — including larger windows to allow for more air and light, a new roof and the installation of up to 16 new elevator cars.

“It’s not what we used to know from the modern era of garment distribution,” Mr. Federman said of light manufacturing. “It has to include crafts, artisans, creative commercial users, graphic artists and computer users who use space in a manner not commonly fit into manufacturing.”

The building was erected quickly during World War I as a Navy warehouse and later used as a uniform depot during World War II, according to city records. Before being shuttered in 2000, it housed Food and Drug Administration laboratories and a New York Police Department gang unit, among other government agencies. A few relics from before the building closed, like a photo of a young Bill Clinton and a 1988 Mets poster, are still tacked to the walls.

Initially, speculation that the building would be rezoned for residential use, as happened in former industrial sites in Williamsburg, drew intense interest from a handful of developers, said Yossi Hackner, managing director for Sholom & Zuckerbrot Realty in Queens. Those potential buyers fell by the wayside, however, after city officials renewed their vows to maintain the area’s M3-1 zoning, a narrow designation that allows for woodworkers, food and beverage distributors and medical supply companies, among other groups.

Josh Keller, executive director of the Southwest Brooklyn Industrial Development Corporation, said Sunset Park’s large population of Mexican and Asian immigrants were in need of jobs, not homes. According to his advocacy group’s research there were some 2,000 industrial businesses in Sunset Park and the nearby areas of Gowanus and Red Hook in 2005.

“Believe me, employment isn’t what it could be because of the circumstances nationally, and in New York, with its relatively high unemployment rate,” Mr. Keller said. “So if you ask me what we need right now, it’s employment and getting people back to work.”


April 6th, 2013, 05:07 AM
Group Hopes Landmarking Will Stop Sunset Park Sore Thumbs

by Hana R. Alberts

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[Photos via the Sunset Park Landmarks Committee (http://www.preservesunsetpark.org/photos).]

A group of Sunset Park residents have launched a campaign to preserve the lowrise row houses and historic architectural details of their neighborhood. Fearing more "inappropriate" eyesores like the ones pictured above, the Sunset Park Landmarks Committee believes that a recent downzoning (http://www.preservesunsetpark.org/faqs#sunset-park-was-downzoned-isn-t-that-enough-) just isn't enough to protect and maintain the facades of individual buildings that are bought and then renovated. Even if they have to stay around the same height and scale as other structures on the block, overhauled buildings don't have to abide by the overarching character of the neighborhood—meaning they stick out like sore thumbs.

We got a heads up from Brownstoner (http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2013/04/closing-bell-sunset-park-walking-tour/) that the organization is planning a free walking tour (http://www.preservesunsetpark.org/events#walking-tour-of-sunset-park-2) on Saturday, April 13, focused on its "history, architecture, development, ethnic diversity, and the potential to become a New York City landmark district."


According to the group's Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/PreserveSunsetPark), their neighborhood got a shout-out in L Magazine's recent naming of the 50 best blocks in Brooklyn (http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/03/27/rating_brooklyns_blocks.php). An admin quotes the article, which says that Sunset Park is home to the "Best Non-Cliche Block for Brownstones: 56th Street, between Fourth and Fifth avenues. Oh sure, North Slope, Fort Greene, Carroll Gardens, etc. have lots of blocks lined with beautiful brownstones. But it's 2013—Brownstone Brooklyn is so cliche! Travel a bit farther south and you'll still find blocks with gorgeous stone row houses, but in a neighborhood that hasn't been totally gentrified." And the other mention was "best block to smoke a joint" on 37th because it's deserted. LOL."

Official site: Sunset Park Landmarks Committee (http://www.preservesunsetpark.org/) [www.preservesunsetpark.org] (http://www.preservesunsetpark.org])
Sunset Park Walking Tour (http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2013/04/closing-bell-sunset-park-walking-tour/) [Brownstoner]
The 50 Best Blocks in Brooklyn (http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/the-50-best-blocks-in-brooklyn/Content?oid=2304690&showFullText=true) [L Magazine]

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/04/05/group_hopes_landmarking_will_stop_sunset_park_sore _thumbs.php

November 27th, 2013, 01:15 AM

Mod-Look Six-Story Hotel Rising in Sunset Park

"A tipster sent us these photos and informed us that work had recently begun on a six-story hotel at 457 39th Street between 4th and 5th avenues in Sunset Park. The space-age-style building will have 70 units spread across 19,928 square feet of commercial space, an exercise room, breakfast area and eight outdoor parking spaces, according to new building permits (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=2&passjobnumber=320724221&passdocnumber=01) issued earlier this month.
Michael Kang Architect (http://michaelkangarchitectpc.com/index.htm) is designing the building. An LLC bought the property for $565,000 (http://www.propertyshark.com/mason/Property-Report/?propkey=131044)last year and demolished a two-story brick house and a one-story garage.
We’ve included a photo of the building site after the jump. What do you think of the design of the hotel and the parking lot?



November 27th, 2013, 08:21 AM
Eyesore of the future.

November 27th, 2013, 06:21 PM
Not so much. The entire street is an eyesore. There's even a McSam.

October 4th, 2014, 06:12 AM
Ginormous Mixed-Use Development Coming to Sunset Park

by Zoe Rosenberg

http://cdn.cstatic.net/gridnailer/500x/http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/542d5aa7f92ea174b60203d5/br-home-depot-redux-2014-09-26-bk01_z.jpg (http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/542d5aa7f92ea174b60203d5/br-home-depot-redux-2014-09-26-bk01_z.jpg)
Renderings by Raymond Chan Architect (http://www.raymondchanarchitect.com/).

Sunset Park is the next neighborhood bracing for a mega-development akin to Queens' Flushing Commons (http://ny.curbed.com/tags/flushing-commons) and the Upper West Side's Riverside Center (http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2014/04/28/new_renderings_of_de_portzamparcs_riverside_center _surface.php). Brooklyn Paper reports (http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/37/40/br-sunset-park-development-2014-09-26-bk_37_40.html) that a group of developers have signed on to erect a massive mixed-use project in the southern Brooklyn neighborhood on Eighth Avenue between 61st and 64th streets. Aptly named Eighth Avenue Center, the new development, designed by Raymond Chan (http://www.raymondchanarchitect.com/), will have a three-story Chelsea Market-style retail space at its base that will cover some 167,000-square-feet or, as BP puts it (http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/37/40/br-sunset-park-development-2014-09-26-bk_37_40.html), about three football fields. Above it will rise a 10-story, 150-room hotel, two 15-story residential towers with some 350 apartments between them, and a 17-story office tower. The tallest nearby buildings top out at about eight stories, so needless to say, the development's scale is largely unprecedented for the neighborhood.

http://cdn.cstatic.net/gridnailer/500x/http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/542d5aa7f92ea174b60203d8/br-home-depot-redux-2014-09-26-bk02_z.jpg (http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/542d5aa7f92ea174b60203d8/br-home-depot-redux-2014-09-26-bk02_z.jpg)

BP says (http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/37/40/br-sunset-park-development-2014-09-26-bk_37_40.html) that site will also have a public green space and sculpture garden atop the retail structure's roof, a library, computer lab, and room for a pre-kindergarten program that "will serve the area's burgeoning immigrant population."

The idea for a development at the lot to the scale of Eighth Avenue Center isn't a new one; a proposal for the site made waves in 2007 (http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2014/05/28/development_watch.php) when the land's previous owner Andrew Kohen announced plans to erect a Home Depot and an 11-story residential building. Kohen received a zoning variance for the industrial parcel in 2007, but ended up selling the land off before realizing the project. Before Kohen sold, the Community Board sided with the project. All it took was Kohen's agreement to include 20-percent of housing as affordable. Whether the CB will stand with the new development has yet to be seen.

Whether or not Chelsea Market developer Jamestown, who has expressed interest (http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2014/08/11/gentrification_watch.php) in bringing a similar market to nearby Industry City (http://ny.curbed.com/tags/industry-city), is involved in the project is unknown. Curbed has reach out for comment.

Mega-development coming to Sunset Park (http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/37/40/br-sunset-park-development-2014-09-26-bk_37_40.html) [BP]

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2014/10/02/ginormous_mixeduse_development_coming_to_sunset_pa rk.php#comment-1687914

October 28th, 2014, 07:15 AM
Revealed: 5515 Eighth Avenue, Sunset Park Medical Office Building

By: Stephen Smith on October 24th 2014 at 6:30 am

http://newyorkyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/5515eighth.jpg (http://newyorkyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/5515eighth.jpg)
5515 Eighth Avenue, rendering by Raymond Chan

Eighth Avenue has long been a main commercial street in Sunset Park, with its storefronts supplying the surrounding residential sidestreets with local retail. But in recent decades, it’s become the main drag for one of New York City’s two largest Chinatowns (the other being Flushing, in Queens; the Manhattan original is now third), and has subsequently acquired a commensurate demand for commercial space.

Medical space is easiest to build, given its preferential status in the zoning code. Builders of walk-in health centers are afforded generous density bonuses, which are put to good use in ethnic business districts throughout the city.

Sunset Park is a natural destination for medical development, and YIMBY has obtained a rendering for a glassy new medical complex at 5515 Eighth Avenue. The six-story structure, designed by Raymond Chan, will replace a single-story structure at the corner of 56th Street.

Architecture beyond the gentrifying fringe in New York City can sometimes be subpar, but commercial projects, as everywhere else, tend to be higher quality than residential developments. This building, with its glassy façade and simple white and gray panels between floors, looks to follow the same rule.

The ground floor and mezzanine will contain 13,000 square feet of retail space, topped by 42,500 square feet of medical office condos. The three-level underground parking garage will have enough space for around 150 cars, far more than required by code.

The developer is Andy Wong with Flushing-based Golden 8th Avenue Realty Corp., a firm that appears to have owned the land since the 1980s.

The total project cost was projected to be around $33 million, with $8 million in EB-5 funding, from Chinese seeking green cards in exchange for making $500,000 in job-creating investments in the U.S.

While the project does overwhelm its surroundings – three-story basic brick apartment buildings with ground level retail on Eighth Avenue – the community long ago grew too large for its century-old housing stock, and buildings of six stories and more are perfectly appropriate.

http://newyorkyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/555eighthave.jpg (http://newyorkyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/555eighthave.jpg)5515 Eighth Avenue, image from Bing Maps

Medical space can be easily built, as this project shows, but housing is not granted such generous zoning provisions. Ideally, Eighth Avenue would be sprouting apartment buildings that are as big as the walk-in health centers – and if this were the case, then perhaps Sunset Park would not be so much less affordable (http://newyorkyimby.com/2014/08/why-is-hasidic-brooklyn-so-much-cheaper-than-chinese-brooklyn-not-enough-7516-bay-parkways.html) than its Hasidic neighbor, Borough Park.

Construction of 5515 Eighth Avenue was slated to start in September 2014, and a flurry of permit filings confirms this likely did occur. The building is planned to open to tenants in three years.

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March 21st, 2015, 01:14 AM
In Sunset Park, Doubts About Development Plan

Community groups in Brooklyn neighborhood plan a rally on Sunday

By Laura Kusisto
March 19, 2015

The industrial water front in Sunset Park. Photo: Cassandra Giraldo for The Wall Street Journal

A $1 billion plan to transform a waterfront industrial complex with retail space, hotel rooms and university facilities could make the middle-class Brooklyn neighborhood of Sunset Park feel more like Chelsea or Dumbo.

Residents are asking themselves if that’s a good thing.

Some local groups plan to hold a rally Sunday, airing their concerns that the plans will focus more on low-paid retail and hotel jobs and too little on higher-paying manufacturing jobs; push up rents; and won’t take into account climate change and the vulnerability of waterfront property.

“If you look at their renderings, they are looking to do the community-based planning for us,” said Elizabeth Yeampierre, executive director of Uprose, a Latino community-based organization in Sunset Park. “It’s sort of our way or the highway.”

The Tin Cup, a coffee shop on Fourth Avenue. Photo: Cassandra Giraldo for The Wall Street Journal

In August 2013, Belvedere Capital, Jamestown and Angelo Gordon bought a stake in the 6-million-square-foot complex. So far, they have invested $100 million in it, which they said has led to the leasing of 850,000 square feet, bringing in 1,500 jobs.

The developers point out that 70% of the complex is now vacant or houses storage space. Developing it would bring more jobs to the community—some 13,300 on site—rather than leading to the loss of manufacturing jobs, said Andrew Kimball, chief executive of Industry City, the entity that runs the complex.

“That’s going to take massive investment, but government’s not writing a check,” he said. “We need something that provides some higher return that allows us to convert all that space over 12 years.”

The developers plan to invest $890 million, which they said would spur an additional $150 million of investment by tenants.

Many industrial-service companies are slowly moving out of the area. Photo: Cassandra Giraldo for The Wall Street Journal

The groups holding Sunday’s rally, at Uprose’s offices, include Neighbors Helping Neighbors, a tenant-advocacy group, and the Teamsters Local 812, which wants to preserve union port jobs.
The developers are seeking a rezoning, which will require approval from the City Planning Commission and City Council.

Sunset Park has been the subject of renewed attention by both the city and private developers. Up the street from Industry City, Bed Bath & Beyond Inc. has signed a lease to take more than 100,000 square feet at Liberty View Industrial Plaza.

Mr. Kimball said the distinction between this and other formerly industrial areas that have experienced gentrification, such as Dumbo and SoHo, is that they aren’t adding apartments.

“We’ve spent 18 months engaging with the community,” he said. “The major thing that we have heard is jobs.”

On a recent weekday afternoon, some business owners in the area said they were worried about rising retail rents and competition from the sleek new businesses Industry City hopes to attract.

José Beltré, owner of Eco Communications, which sells and repairs radios, said rent has more than doubled in the area recently. His business has also been affected by larger forces, as much of it came from repairing radios for car-service companies, some of whom are switching to iPads.

But others said that an improving neighborhood will benefit them by bringing in new customers and driving out a criminal element. Lucio Degidio, the 43-year-old manager of a pizza restaurant across the street, said business has ticked up since Industry City started filling up with more tenants.

“For a long time these buildings were empty, there were not tenants. It was a dead area,” he said. “It’s obviously moving in the right direction


March 21st, 2015, 02:33 PM
Why do we so often see these huge amounts of land get bought up by a single developer; who then constructs some huge homogenous mixed use 'building' complex' costing "billions" of dollars. Why not let these areas develop more organically in smaller individual parcels, with a variety of smaller individual owners/developers? That is how nearly the entire NY metro area had been built-out with housing and commercial buildings in the 19th & 20th century; many different small developers, building many small developments. I am sure there is at least some 'reasonable sounding' explanation; but I still think smaller, more incremental development, is a better way for more beautiful, livable cities.

March 22nd, 2015, 12:18 PM
Cash money, my friend. Because of construction costs and modern financing, small development is nearly impossible, especially in NYC. On top of that, as a site like this is likely to have environmental issues beyond the means of any one small developer, so the only way it could be done that way is if the city stepped in, spent the money first, and then parceled out the land to small developers. And get this, people would lose their minds if the city were the ones to drop millions for the benefit of small developers. And so you see this massive agglomeration of sites to make the numbers pencil out. I have a really hard time believing that there's any going back to the good old days when work-a-day merchants were able to build themselves beautiful little buildings as paeans to their own commercial success. They've mostly been rolled up into large corporations too. And their statement buildings are frequently in the burbs -


March 22nd, 2015, 01:48 PM
Isn't that one of Best Buy's old buildings?

March 22nd, 2015, 04:27 PM
Pretty sure it was custom built for them -

The Longaberger corporate headquarters on State Route 16 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Route_16_(Ohio)) is a local landmark and a well-known example of novelty architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novelty_architecture), since it takes the shape of the company's biggest seller, the "Medium Market Basket".[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Longaberger_Company#cite_note-1) The seven-story, 180,000-square-foot building was designed by The Longaberger Company, and executed by NBBJ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBBJ) and Korda Nemeth Engineering. The building opened in 1997.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Longaberger_Company#cite_note-2) The basket handles weigh almost 150 tons and can be heated during cold weather to prevent ice damage.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Longaberger_Company#cite_note-3) Originally, Dave Longaberger wanted all of the Longaberger buildings to be shaped like baskets, but only the headquarters was completed at the time of his death. (from wikipedia)